The last story where the guy’s voluntarily disqualified themselves by shouting a warning to the other racing yachts are the real MVP’s. They probably saved lives by doing that. That rule is stupid, especially if it’s a legit warning to other teams!
@Waffen511
Ай бұрын
they changed it after, over 40knts required to warn
@bobcornwell403
Ай бұрын
An excellent presentation. I did find one error. Wider beam does not lengthen the waterline. What wider beam does do is it improves the initial stability of the boat (from, say 0 deg to 30 deg of heel). This gives the boat the capability of handling greater sail area per given weight. Initial stability is different from ultimate stability in that it exists within a relatively small range of heel, where ultimate stability covers a much wider range but is generally not effective in granting sail carrying ability. In simpler terms, a wider boat is generally faster than a narrower one per given waterline length. This is especially true if the boat is light. Designers have a huge incentive to maximize initial stability while providing what they see as adequate ultimate stability. Back in the IOR Era, 110 degrees was considered sufficient ultimate stability. Now, I think that has been increased to 120 degrees.
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
Thanks, that's helpful
@angelachouinard4581
29 күн бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you very much.
@somethingelse4424
Ай бұрын
I'm committing the sin of commenting before the video is over, but the prohibition on sharing weather data between boats seems irresponsibly dangerous. Sacrificing safety and human lives for the fairness of a little boat race.
@chrisrailson24
Ай бұрын
Seriously...that's like murder in a way
@user-fj4mo9xz1c
Ай бұрын
So commercial ships instantly relay info and rush to give aid. But in this rich man's sport, it's "shameful" to pass on weather data, plus people might lie to discourage competitors...
@somethingelse4424
Ай бұрын
@@user-fj4mo9xz1c It seems like they could just punish lying about weather data with disqualification instead of prohibiting the sharing of potentially life saving warnings. I suppose I won't waste any tears if rich people WANT to risk dying over something so foolish.
@budgiefriend
Ай бұрын
@@somethingelse4424 Do you really cry for strangers? Be honest.
@somethingelse4424
Ай бұрын
@@budgiefriend Figure of speech. Maybe if something particularly cruel and tragic happens to a stranger I might get misty eyed.
@seawench555
Ай бұрын
Story 1: Commodore Gary Garner should have been held accountable for this terrible disaster, what person allows vessels to sail in that weather. Rip 🇦🇺
@user-fj4mo9xz1c
Ай бұрын
I'm really shocked at the selfishness. Maybe because this is a rich man's sport, with a high percentage of high-functioning psychopaths. The fact that it would be "shameful" to break radio silence and warn the others.
@charonstyxferryman
Ай бұрын
The skippers, i.e. captains, are responsible for the safety of the vessel and the people onboard a vessel, so Mr. Garner can't be responsible for sunken boats, damaged boats, injured people, and people lost at sea.
@anja2716
Ай бұрын
Fascinating. I thoroughly enjoyed the meteorology lesson too.
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
🤣 good stuff. Hope all is well with you.
@HotakaPeter
Ай бұрын
Discription of length of waterline to speed was correct until the commentator said adding beam adds to hull speed. Incorrect. The hull speed is unchanged for a wider boat. What added width (beam) does is. (1) Increases righting moment, which is the resistance for the sails trying to lean the boat over and (2) Reducing draft for a given length and weight by increasing planform area. This in turn gives flatter hull sections and improves dynamic lift, aiding in getting a boat to plane.
@00BillyTorontoBill
20 күн бұрын
correct !
@ktktktktktktkt
Ай бұрын
28:27 I wonder if he did his research. Sayonara is often translated as "goodbye" but there's a connotation that you're never going to see this person again... so not sure it's a good name to give to a yacht...
@boathousejoed1126
Ай бұрын
Never heard that before!
@johnoneill5661
Ай бұрын
It could be worse it could have been called Titan 1c 😬
@foo219
Ай бұрын
In my experience the name of a ship doesn't affect its seaworthiness, but it's worth researching
@aprilt7080
Ай бұрын
Yes, it’s goodbye in Japanese. But it’s something you say at the end of the day, which doesn’t mean you NEVER see that person again. More like “See ya”. If I were Larry Ellis, I’d say that at the start of the race. You’re not going to see me again till the finish! A darn good name for a fast racing boat!
@juliatarrel1674
Ай бұрын
My brother was invited to crew in the 'night Sydney-Hobart race. He decided not to, because his kids were very young. Best decision to make, I think.
@PopularMonsterUSA
10 күн бұрын
How am I supposed to get any work done if I keep watching your videos? I just can’t stop. Thanks! 😂❤
@waterlinestories
10 күн бұрын
Glad to hear you’re ‘ submerged’ or is that immersed. 🤣
@PopularMonsterUSA
10 күн бұрын
@@waterlinestories Oh, you're good! 🤣
@SoloSailing77
Ай бұрын
On Lake Michigan during the Chicago to Mackinac in 83, we were in 15 footers. We were surfing North near the Manitou Islands. Once between the Islands and Michigan Shores, we had a wind and wave switch. We had the back of the boat, stern, on top of a wave. Then we got hit by a monster wave on the bow, front, and it stood our 41 foot boat straight up on the nose. Face first knockdown. The mast actually touched the water in front of the boat. The violence of the boat righting itself was crazy. Waves are completely different on the Great Lakes. 15 footers on the ocean are long and smooth. I love being in the middle of any body of water. The views at night are unreal.
@nancyjones6780
Ай бұрын
The second story literally had my heart racing. I simply cannot imagine going through something like that. They had good foresight with the life raft!
@wallacejeffery5786
Ай бұрын
I live in Mobile, weather forecast was for horrible weather. Friends who did not race but anchored up , pulled anchors causing massive damage. These sailors had been thru numerous hurricanes. This is how dangerous this storm really was.
@REDRoverMike
Ай бұрын
God I love listening to these stories while I work…… on the road. Not water lol
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
😂 drive safe
@SamBroadway
26 күн бұрын
This is absolutely fascinating coverage
@waterlinestories
26 күн бұрын
👍🏻
@davidferry548
Ай бұрын
I realise you focused on the disaster of these races but if you want to read a master class on how to handle a light boat in extreme conditions read the story of IFR Midnight Rambler over all winner of that Syd Hobart. Just 35 foot long and handled with consummate skill by her crew, all sailors should read their story
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
Sounds good. 👍🏻
@saym2756
Ай бұрын
Would love to watch those success breakdowns. I remember reading the Pardey’s book on storm tactics years ago. And they were really big on heaving to. Do you know if boats did this in the Sydney Hobart race? I will look it up.
@davidferry548
Ай бұрын
@@saym2756 no, heaving to was not an option for that style of light yacht. Many got into trouble once they turned around and tried to run for cover . These were seriously big seas radar altimeters on rescue helicopters were regularly reading wave heights of 80 feet and these were often breaking
@davidferry548
21 күн бұрын
@@saym2756 no wasn’t an option given the hull types proximity to a Lee shore etc
@stevewindisch7400
Ай бұрын
Just to keep perspective... According to US Coast Guard, power boats have about 8 times more accidents than sailboats, even after taking into account there are several times more power vessels than sailboats in the US ("per capita"). So if you want to take your family out on the water in safety, learn to sail ;) A 25 foot sailboat is a good place to start... fairly deep cockpit, the sails are easy to handle, and most can safely hold 4 people. They also usually have a small outboard motor, a VHF marine radio, and a "porti-potty". You can get going for less than $3,000 , and if trailerable, they can usually be hauled by a 6 cylinder vehicle.
@samiraperi467
Ай бұрын
Importantly power boats are much more dangerous to onlookers than sailboats are.
@pforce9
Ай бұрын
Power boats mostly have steering wheels which make people think that driving a boat is like driving a car and nothing could be further from the truth. Most people will not take a sailboat out without some sort of instruction but with power boats it is put the key in and go.
@charonstyxferryman
Ай бұрын
Planing boats are horrible in rough seas.
@briantremblay9157
Ай бұрын
What a way to wake up on a saturday mooring!!! cheers
@nicholasbell9017
Ай бұрын
Mourning? Is this what they call a malapropism?
@briantremblay9157
Ай бұрын
@@nicholasbell9017 auto typo lol thanks for pointing it out lmao
@koharumi1
Ай бұрын
Lol it is Sunday for me here.
@AndyUK-Corrival
Ай бұрын
I sailed many times with Glynn Charles when he moved from dinghies up to big boats. I was onboard when he did his first Fastnet and we won the RORC St Malo race overall by 9 secs on corrected time most likely due to Glynn’s amazing helming and never ending energy to win. A very sad loss to sailing and his family, every time I watch a documentary like this I remember the great times I had sailing with Glynn and how much I learned from him despite being several years his senior. RIP Glynn. Andy UK
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
👍🏻
@alayneperrott9693
Ай бұрын
My late husband, who was an expert in tropical climate change, was signed up to crew one of the boats that sank during the notorious Fastnet Race. Luckily, as it turned out, I had just been let down by a colleague who was due to help me with geological research in Mexico, a country he was unfamiliar with, and lured him to join my adventure instead. At the very least, he was saved a terrifying experience.
@pforce9
Ай бұрын
I am disappointed. You missed the "Double handed Farallon race of 82. Start at the San Francisco around the island and back was the plan. A force 9 gale came out of nowhere. Boats were sunk and people died in that race. I was blown up on Duxbury reef.
@kurotsuki7427
Ай бұрын
Hey, maybe they will cover that later in another video
@pforce9
Ай бұрын
@@kurotsuki7427 We can only hope.
@NiteCourt
22 күн бұрын
I really appreciate your effort to get everything right. It takes a ton of effort to do that like you do. I am never sure if there is a team working with you. If you do, my hat's off to all of you as well! I race sailboats on Lake Michigan, so I am fascinated with all your videos. I lost a fellow sailor and friend when he fell off his 38 foot boat racing in a solo race on Lake Michigan. People back then didn't use safety harnesses like we all should have. The ones around when he was lost, hooked to the lifelines. You had to unhook to pass each section. It wasn't something we could use to respond to problems quickly. Today I am hooked in to the cockpit, and can move easily on deck. The bar after the race, is where all the stories are told. Good times!
@norbertschmitz3358
Ай бұрын
Always suffered from seasickness.....became a hang glider and mountaineer instead. Gave it all up when my wife told me in 1983 i was going to be a father. Now I'm 68 and still alive! Cheers from Australia
@seawench555
Ай бұрын
Incredibly well presented, very informative and thourally researched, thanks for sharing 🇦🇺
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
👍🏻
@OEF-OFS-0331
Ай бұрын
Water is an unstoppable force in the exact same moment that it is an immovable object in the sense that it has absolutely zero room for persuasion outside of the surface of your vessel. Fair winds.
@aerotube7291
Ай бұрын
Yes. Safety gear is absolutely essential too, you can't just hop out and walk
@aerotube7291
Ай бұрын
Great comment!
@brianmcdermott5880
Ай бұрын
The mother nature of run-on sentences. Thank you for that!
@fatovamingus
Ай бұрын
Poetic
@scottmeredith3359
Ай бұрын
I mean, how many times do you need to get pitch poled before you decide to ask for help? Insanity.
@allenfitzpatrick8485
Ай бұрын
The Hobart race was a convergence of 2 low pressure systems.
@ZAN-THE-GOAT
Ай бұрын
I was a spotter on the aircraft searching in 1998, We took off from Albion Park. That same year sydney got hit by the worst hail storm of all time, ruining many roofs on houses. Costing more than any other disaster
@aloysiusjones3985
28 күн бұрын
Sydney to Hobart one of our great traditions. RIP to those souls. Thanks for an informative and detailed presentation. 🇦🇺👍🍺
@gordonpeden6234
Ай бұрын
As a yachting/Sailing "Tragic" Who lives in Australia. I love your forensic breakdowns. I've been in a couple of "Blows" But generally . When in doubt "I wouldn't put out" And I'm still here to tell the tale, with my wife and children too. Love your work BTW.
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
Thanks. Old sailors and bold sailors, not old and bold sailors.
@wazzazone
Ай бұрын
I remember the sheer terror being reported about the 98 race sad.
Fastnet anniversary: 45 years next week. I don't know anything about sailing (and I'm afraid of the water), but shortly after this tragedy happened, I read about it in a Reader's Digest article. The story stayed with me all these years. Interesting to hear the event analysis in more detail than a simple article could provide.
@billt6116
Ай бұрын
as you look at the map of bass strait, You can almost see a funnel for wind coming from the West. Combined with the shoal against the surrounding seas spells "DANGER Will Robinson!"
@ExplainwithShaun
Ай бұрын
Nice I had no idea you had this channel!
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
Hey bud. Yeah started a while back and it’s done pretty well. Hope you’re well. Have you been back to Malta?
@ExplainwithShaun
27 күн бұрын
@@waterlinestories The last time I was there was 2019 Covid kind of got in the way 2020. I am in college now so I haven't had time to go back yet. Maybe in the next few years.
@waterlinestories
27 күн бұрын
@ExplainwithShaun 👍🏻 what are you studying?
@elizabethturner9671
Ай бұрын
Me anytime a new Waterline Stories disaster, in my best Charlie/CritikalMoist voice: WOOOOO
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
😂
@foo219
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately it seems even the brilliance of ship designers and meteoroligists combined is no match for the lack of common sense of yachters.
@charonstyxferryman
Ай бұрын
That's a gross oversimplification. It's race skippers who has a different mind set than other yachties.
@foo219
Ай бұрын
@@charonstyxferryman You're absolutely right. I imagine that competitive spirit can really cloud one's judgment!
@Oodain
Ай бұрын
I own an IOR designed 39 foot one off built by bjørn jive in 1995 They are very special boats to sail We reached 8 knots cross current ladt thursday in 20 knots of headwind
@duncanidaho2097
6 күн бұрын
Wow I can’t wait to take boating classes, buy a sailboat and off to Hawaii from LA! Not really. Just as I wouldn’t take up rock climbing or wingsuit base jumping.
@mattilindstrom
Ай бұрын
In story 2, having one's skull fractured by a can (even a large one) indicates the movements of the hull must have been extremely violent. A truly nasty situation.
@YevonZ
Ай бұрын
Almost expected the Donald Crowhurst incident to be included. Maybe a future ep?
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
Maybe a future one.
@YevonZ
Ай бұрын
@@waterlinestories wow thanks for replying. Honestly didn't expect you to reply. But the Crowhurst incident is a good story, even a couple movies made of it.
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
@YevonZ I didn’t know if it. It’s in the list now. Thanks for that
@JohnSchofield-j4i
24 күн бұрын
S.A. Seafarer, L.M.Gemsbok? Two in Table Bay 1966 and 1975.
@YevonZ
24 күн бұрын
@@waterlinestories hey no problem. Love your vids
@melasnexperience
Ай бұрын
Maybe I'm landlocked and/or sheltered, but I'm genuinely surprised how many teenagers were involved in the first two stories. Is that a common thing, to have teenagers crew on sailing races?
@DamianBlakeSailing
Ай бұрын
It's a sport. If a kid loves a sport, we encourage them. How many Olympians are teenagers? My younger son started racing with me on bigger boats when he was 10. By 13, we were racing two handed on smaller boats and he was still racing on bigger boats doing passages.
@ilkeravni4247
5 күн бұрын
I must admit this story saddened me brought tears to my eye's may god bless they souls. I dont understand why boats get disqualified for reporting heavy seas or wind, that rule cost innocent lives. I remember those events and the panic it caused but i didnt know about the silly regulations stupid regulations that cost so many innocent lives.
@idreamtiwasbackatmanderley414
Ай бұрын
How come there has been no horrendous massive catastrophe during the Vendée Globe which is the longest distance 24 300 nautical miles ?
@franklinkz2451
Ай бұрын
That’s almost 100ft tall! Holy Christmas!!!
@mickroyton6447
24 күн бұрын
My nine metres trimaran logged 47.1 knots in the Iran Irac in Dr No matter where it was
@420alphaomega
Ай бұрын
Keep up the great work
@waterlinestories
Ай бұрын
👌🏻
@ALA9E
Ай бұрын
So the olympian was a real hero
@ceddavis
Ай бұрын
“Dauphin” is pronounce almost like the sea mammal (dolphin without he “l”). “Fairhope” is one word, not Fair Hope.
@elitecol69
Ай бұрын
It's amazing what some blokes will do just to get in the pants of a 15yo!
@lisamiller6112
Ай бұрын
This is a comment on your mindset, not his.
@marklewandowski8474
Ай бұрын
What?
@TrillaCamX
Ай бұрын
huh? Are you talking about the man and his daughter? did we watch the same video?
@pj2123
Ай бұрын
I am normally a fan of this channel but I gave up on this video due to the over loud background music drowning out the naration. ☹
@boitumelosekgothe
Ай бұрын
Why do you use prioritize imperial measurements over the metric system? Your channel bio says the channel is based in Germany, and you clearly have a South African accent. Neither one of these countries use imperial measurements. This is baffling that you chose to prioritise your American audience.
@aloysiusjones3985
28 күн бұрын
Because he is speaking to Americans, the rest of us have some small idea of 3/8 of 1/16 of an inch. Why you wouldn’t use metrication is baffling in itself. Cheerio. 🇦🇺👍🍺🍺
@JohnSchofield-j4i
24 күн бұрын
But Bruce, your boat travels in knots(1,853m) You sound like a whinging Aussie. Because you lost in the rugger? ;-)
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