Oh I’m shocked ! NOT !…… An 80 old cartridge whoops a new ( Wiz bang ) cartridge !….. This is ( EXACTLY) why we don’t need all these new cartridges! It’s all about selling new rifles ! PERIOD !……..
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
8 ай бұрын
WEATHERBY!!! WEATHERBY!!! WEATHERBY!!!
@paulsellars1813
8 ай бұрын
Love my 300weatherby dropped many on a dime and gave you change lol.
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
8 ай бұрын
@@paulsellars1813 amen brother!
@chrisschilling9432
8 ай бұрын
Hahahahahah this was a great video! There is no replacement for displacement.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@zebacake4683
8 ай бұрын
catrridges are like engines, when used properly its hard to beat cubes
@nt3523
8 ай бұрын
There's no replacement for displacement.
@tacticalmattfoley
8 ай бұрын
Boat raced....Roy knew what he was doing.
@jameswilson5562
8 ай бұрын
Mr roy new what he was doing 😅😂
@kingy300wby
8 ай бұрын
300wby 💪🏼 that’s fast man 3113fps with a 225gr that’s 213fps over a 300norma in Hornadys reloading manual, it’s also eating the 300rum in hornadys manual, And before anyone says anything about the prc load, that load at nearly 3000fps is HOT 🔥 it’s 150fps over Hornadys manual, very fair comparison they are both cranking hard just the old weatherby simply has more 😎
@Backin_Theday
8 ай бұрын
Weatherby easily gaps the PRC.
@tonydevich7937
8 ай бұрын
Well I beg to differ, let's get Components to reload and see where that puts the weatherby
@thomasdaum1927
8 ай бұрын
@@tonydevich7937 Exactly , when you load WBY against other cartridges WBY clearly outperforms other cartridges !…. Just compare Ballistics !……
@jaybailleaux630
8 ай бұрын
The Weatherby is so sexy with the double vinturi shoulder.
@BigTimberLodge
8 ай бұрын
Welcome to Gapplebees
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
8 ай бұрын
GAPPLEBEES!!!!😆
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Haha😂
@jamesbromstead4949
8 ай бұрын
Weatherby for the win!
@AlaskanBallistics
8 ай бұрын
Nice
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
He might beat me in accuracy... but he ain't beating me in velocity!
@TomL3grandsons
8 ай бұрын
Nice! Way to put the smack down
@jacobmullins3644
8 ай бұрын
2car lengths 😄 1 bus length 😆 See you at gapplebys😱
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
lol
@eddielombera5862
8 ай бұрын
So much for the “old; outdated” belted 300 wby case…
@mikedoyle7020
8 ай бұрын
Did you seriously think the PRC would be close to the Weatherby?
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Trying to be nice
@mikemarker4387
8 ай бұрын
Velocity is not always the answer. Barrel length, twist rate. Being able to stabilize for accurate heavy weight for caliber. A lot of different factors for different rounds. All are good. Whichever you like or want.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
You do realize my 300 Weatherby stabilizes this 225 ELD-M right? I get sub MOA accuracy with this bullet. Even the Hornady box ammo says 1in10 twist
@mikemarker4387
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherbyI'm not saying it doesn't. Just making a statement.
@MTLeadSlanger
8 ай бұрын
You think if they wanted the 300 PRC to shoot faster they couldn’t have made it? That’s not what it’s for. It’s for lobbing heavy for caliber bullets at modest velocities crazy distances.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
My friend in his 300 PRC challenged me. 300 PRC isn't some efficient mild shooting 30 caliber. It only has 2 gr less case capacity than a 300 Weatherby
@MTLeadSlanger
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby Your friend must have a lack of understanding of the round. It’s not designed as a hunting round (although it would be great) like the Weatherby. It IS a more mild cartridge because a lot of the case capacity is eaten up by 230-250gr bullets, if it’s being used as intended. It also doesn’t require a magnum length action which is nice. 300 PRC was not built with speed in mind like the WBY.
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
@@MTLeadSlanger Your ignorant understanding of the 300 PRC hurts my head... It's a mild magnum because a 250 gr bullet eats up the case capacity? You do realize the 300 PRC was designed so long bullets wouldn't be stuffed into the case right? case capacity is case capacity and it's only 2 grains less than a 300 Weatherby. "It doesn't require a magnum length action" Oh boy... Do some research before commenting please. Go look up the C.O.L of the 300 PRC. To save you some time it's 3.700". 300 PRC is no where close to being a standard length action! It would have to be 3.340". So yes it is actually a magnum length action.
@Freezer003
8 ай бұрын
Was that factory ammo for the prc? That weatherby load looks to be quite a bit over book velocity... If you put 84 grains of powder in the prc and 93 in the weatherby its kind of a no brainer.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Definitely not factory ammo. Factory ammo only gets 2820 FPS. He used the max load data which was almost 88 gr for the 300 PRC. There is zero load data for Ramshot LRT for the 300 Weatherby. I used 30 Nosler data which is a few grains less than 300 Weatherby.
@Freezer003
8 ай бұрын
So 5.3 grains additional powder only yielded 117 fps gain? I have a nice hunch that PRC would hit the same velocity at 91-92 grains on a ladder test. Assuming the one shot sample size is accurate.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
@Freezer003 No one said these 300 ultra velocity magnums were efficient. And no the 300 PRC isn't efficient either. My friend with the 300 PRC has gone up to 91 gr.... 3050 FPS. And like I said.. I was using the 30 Nosler data. 300 Weatherby typically let's you go up 4 grains more than 30 Nosler. Max LRT data for 225 gr in 30 Nosler is 92 gr.
@Freezer003
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby so I'm curious why you didn't go to theoretically 96 grains with the weatherby? Did you hit pressure?
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
@@Freezer003 First time loading Ramshot LRT... and the idea of even putting 90 gr of powder in my case for a 225 gr bullet is insane. I did a ladder test up to 93 gr. My friend only gave me 4 bullets and just a little bit of LRT powder. I decided to only go up to 93 gr to be safe. There was some pressure with 93... but I'm confident I could have done 95
@mryang3644
8 ай бұрын
Never was a challenge ... Weatherby always been The KING of Speed
@trentjacobs90
8 ай бұрын
Like to see a 3 shot group with the Weatherby. Looking for some new loads for my 300 and bullets over 200gr.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
I got sub MOA with H4831SC. Velocity was a little over 2900 FPS
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
300 PRC gets around 1.3 inch groups with this load. I haven't tried shooting groups with LRT. I did shoot groups with H4831SC and was getting sub MOA at 2900 FPS. My friend usually uses N570 in his 300 PRC for accuracy
@ballisticsusa4744
4 ай бұрын
What vanguard do you have in this video
@ReloadingWeatherby
4 ай бұрын
Synthetic
@RobertNoble-jy4gd
8 ай бұрын
What recipe was the wby load?? I haven't found a powder in the reloading manuals that give me over 3000
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Ramshot LRT. There is not data for it. So I did a ladder test
@LuvAlbabee11
Ай бұрын
What was your start powder charge and top powder charge?@@ReloadingWeatherby
@30cal.scumbag
7 ай бұрын
How’s that 10 twist barrel group those 225s at 1000 yards ?
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
Hornady recommends a 1in10 twist for the 225 ELD-M
@rogerramjet7567
7 ай бұрын
I could care less. 3006 is the BEST BY FAR.
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
I like 30-06 as well
@mdixon26288
8 ай бұрын
300 PRC's advantage is being able to shoot long high BC bullets. It was never advertised as being an ultra high velocity cartridge. 300 PRC is nearly the same velocity as common 300 Win Mag loadings until you get into high BC stuff.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Almost all 30 caliber magnums have the twist rate to shoot any of the 300 PRC factory ammo. And in reality up to a 230 gr bullet.
@mdixon26288
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby True if you focus on only twist rate. In my opinion the 300 PRC was developed to be an improved 300 wm with a beltless steep shouldered modern case design.
@EthanSmith-g7c
7 ай бұрын
Which one is more common on the shelf?
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
In my area? 300 Weatherby. You also get a lot more bullet options in 300 Weatherby
@kevinleaman70
8 ай бұрын
I’d like to see that with both cartridges shooting the same bullet weigh obviously the Weatherby shooting a heavier bullet
@jamessammann9183
5 ай бұрын
300 weatherby vs 300 rum
@mryang3644
8 ай бұрын
Love my Ruger no 1 b 300wby mag ❤❤
@tythomps
8 ай бұрын
Both loaded to max or same pressure signs?
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Yes both using the same powder, same bullet and both have 26 inch barrels
@Freezer003
8 ай бұрын
87.7 grains LRT in the PRC 93 grains LRT in the Weatherby
@tythomps
8 ай бұрын
@@Freezer003 cool, no surprise and bout what I'd expect for the comparison then.
@perfectshineofjax
8 ай бұрын
What was the barrel length on each gun??
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Both using the exact same powder, same bullet and both have 26 inch barrels
@Farmer_1776
8 ай бұрын
Go 300 Norma. It’s an impressive round
@tannormathias2488
8 ай бұрын
Let’s see who shoots more accurately now!!!
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
300 PRC shoots this load 1.3 inch groups. I haven't tested accuracy with LRT yet. I do get sub MOA with H4831SC. My friend uses N570 in his 300 PRC for accuracy
@tonydevich7937
8 ай бұрын
I just like the round without the belt
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
You reload?
@austinwaldron2479
5 ай бұрын
Holy hell
@dimebag6982
8 ай бұрын
What is your load data?
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
There is no load data for Ramshot LRT and 300 Weatherby. I did a ladder test and maxed out with what you just saw.
@kevinleaman70
8 ай бұрын
Like I said they do all these cartridge comparisons one cartridge versus another but it’s obvious that they shoot a 30 caliber with a heavier bullet usually especially with certain cartridges 180 grain bullet versus 160 grain bullet I mean really there’s no comparison if you’re gonna compare cartridges make sure they’re both shooting the same bullet weight
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Same exact bullet, same powder and both with a 26 inch barrel
@matthewcarrellful
8 ай бұрын
Was he on alone
@iamnotpaulavery
2 ай бұрын
Shouldn't you have taken an average of, say...3 rounds each?
@ReloadingWeatherby
2 ай бұрын
Should have... but I only had one 225 gr ELD-M left
@brettbateman8259
7 ай бұрын
Same case capacity?
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
No, 300 Weatherby has 2 more grain capacity
@brettbateman8259
7 ай бұрын
Wrong, it’s more like 100 grains H2O for the Weatherby and 88 for the PRC
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
@@brettbateman8259 You're incorrect. Go look at case capacity from Nosler. 220 gr for both... 300 Weatherby has 90 gr, 300 PRC has 87.
@brettbateman8259
7 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby dude you’re talking about the amount of powder you’re using for a given bullet. You said case capacity which is the amount of H2O that the case will hold, two completely different things.
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
@@brettbateman8259 No... no I'm not. Go look at the Nosler load data. It specifically says water capacity. Nosler has 300 WBY and 300 PRC water capacity for each bullet.
@randy3577
8 ай бұрын
All the "new" cartridges are nothing new under the sun. Nothing new, that hasn't been done. 22 Creedmore...... 22-250AI 6.5 Creedmore......260 Rem Etc..etc..
@thomasdaum1927
8 ай бұрын
22 cred = 22 243 . They are just re inventing the wheel with a fast twist ! It’s all about selling new rifles !………
@joshualand5467
7 ай бұрын
30-378 wby is watching
@randy3577
8 ай бұрын
Try it against a 300 RUM with the same bullet.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
300 RUM should easily beat both
@MrMan5014
2 ай бұрын
Pretty much every Wetherby round is a winner…the only drawback with Wetherby ammo is the price…all these new rounds coming out is a waist of time!..they keep trying to reinvent the wheel for little to no gain over current rounds that have been around for decades!!..
@ReloadingWeatherby
2 ай бұрын
It's why I reload
@jamessammann9183
5 ай бұрын
Make it fair 300 Weatherby..vs 300.rum
@matthewkramer6543
7 ай бұрын
3100 FPS on a 225gr bullet out of a WBY is WAY over pressure, regardless of what the rifle is showing. And I doubt that load would run in all conditions. Close to 3,000FPS in the PRC is probably over pressure!
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
Neither one of these loads is what we use. My friend challenged me to a velocity test. I would not shoot this load again.
@michaellane4003
8 ай бұрын
Looks like a butt whooping 😊
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
8 ай бұрын
Gapple pie any one?
@jamessammann9183
8 ай бұрын
Long range 300 prc out to.500 300 weatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
You do realize I was shooting the exact same bullet right? That a 1in10 twist easily stabilizes up to 230 gr bullets
@jamessammann9183
8 ай бұрын
@ReloadingWeatherby didn't know that I have both calib.. getting higher bc bullets in 300 prc shot both out to 1500.yards..I like both
@chipsterb4946
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherbyyou seem to be going against the “common wisdom” about twist rates and bullet stabilization. That is interesting, especially for cartridges like the .270 Winchester.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
@@chipsterb4946 Nah... the 225 gr ELD-M box says minimum twist rate 1in10
@chipsterb4946
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby sorry I wasn’t clear - I applaud your explorations. Barnes’ online data shows a 190 grain projectile for .30-30 with a 1:12 twist rate, and that’s a lighter, all-copper bullet. For .308 Winchester they don’t go *down* from 1:12 to 1:10 until you get up to a 200 grain projectile. IOW at least some of the “you must have a faster twist rate for X weight bullet” is exaggerated, and you are pointing that out. If the bullet manufacturer says “twist rate of 1:10 is fine” then it is!
@Whiteghostkennels
4 ай бұрын
All those PRC Cartridges Are just a bunch of advertisement Methods And look at all the people coming and jumping on board 😂 The 300 win mag Will beat the 300prc also so Definitely the Weatherby And the rum hands down Everybody’s caught up in BC And twist rate When actually A lot of standard twist rates will stabilize those longer BC bullets also just saying
@ReloadingWeatherby
4 ай бұрын
I know... I've tested the high b.c. bullets in slower twist rate rifles.
@tonydevich7937
8 ай бұрын
Use the 215
@williamyelton6351
8 ай бұрын
7mm stw
@madmat990
8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah....OK....so somehow 100 fps is the total story. Y'all are moo rons.
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
you okay? It was just a simple test on which cartridge is faster. We used the same bullet, same powder with the same barrel length.
@madmat990
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby You're right, it was simple....Simpleminded! What exactly did you prove...
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
@madmat990 You seem upset... if the PRC beat the 300 WBY in velocity I have a feeling you wouldn't be calling me a "mooron". Rest assure Matt... you can go to sleep tonight with your head held up high because the 300 PRC has a tight tolerance chamber and factory ammo that is just as good as handloads.
@madmat990
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby my point is, +100 fps out of an antique case means almost nothing…you could do the same thing with a RUM case and the result would be equally meaningless. I guess I’m unimpressed with velocity tests because they mean Jack Squat in a bullet actually hitting a target at 1k yards. I think you know this…so I’m not clear on what you’ve “discovered” with this “test”. PRC owner here.
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
@madmat990 Well I'm happy to do an accuracy test next. But what happens when my outdated Weatherby shoots smaller groups than the 300 PRC? What excuses will you come up with next?
@Ligma1.0
7 ай бұрын
300prc shits on 300wby at distance , speed means nothing
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
They are the exact same bullet moron 🙄. How exactly does the 300 PRC beat it?
@tombrightman9206
3 ай бұрын
30-378
@theprfesssor
8 ай бұрын
Ok you made me check the charts Yes the Weatherby is faster here......but its a 4% difference in speed which equates to about a 8% difference in energy This all means a 1" difference takes 350 yards and a 5" at 600......quite close I'd say
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
I love that you're comparing with percentages so it doesn't look so bad for the PRC. 300 WBY has 400 more ft.lbs of energy and 117 more FPS with a 225 gr. But of course you're right... an animal isn't going to notice the difference. Thanks for watching
@Freezer003
8 ай бұрын
Not to mention that 3.9% velocity increase is due to a 6.5% increase in powder charge. Interesting comparison for sure
@JamesClark-lw6sw
7 ай бұрын
Are these both factory loads???
@ReloadingWeatherby
7 ай бұрын
Both max handloads. Same powder, same bullet and same barrel length
@jasonbubley9427
8 ай бұрын
Ya but what gr was the weatherby. Not really same test lol
@ReloadingWeatherby
8 ай бұрын
Both were shooting the 225 gr ELD-M and same exact powder... also same barrel length
@zebacake4683
8 ай бұрын
how would that not be a same/fair test?
@jasonbubley9427
8 ай бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby ok fair enough..
@suzgabverdugo933
7 ай бұрын
7mm rem mag beats 7prc , 300 win mag and 300 weatherby beats 300 prc😂
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