I wish Ruger would step up production of SP101s chambered in 327 Fed Mag.
@jpb1231000
3 жыл бұрын
I want a Ruger LCR in a 3in barrel or an SP 101.. with adjustable sights!@!@!
@theodorebrego3737
4 ай бұрын
@@jpb1231000right? An lcrx 3 inch 327 would be sweet
@jpb1231000
4 ай бұрын
@@theodorebrego3737 perfection!
@jameslarsen3184
3 жыл бұрын
My lcr in 327 as Ive mentioned has fast become my favorite short barrel round..
@joesophmangum2077
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love it man! Been telling people for years about revolver barrel length and the capability of a 327 in a compact revolver.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's really the most efficient rounds. Super high pressure with a powder throw not much different than 9mm. Just very efficient.
@mkshffr4936
3 жыл бұрын
@K Gehringer From what I gather report is similar to .357 but with the option of H&R or S&W rounds you have lots of options to control noise. If I could afford to get one I would carry the less punishing rounds for EDC and save the boomers for when there is concern of thick skinned critters with claws or tusks. 😊
@dangerman007
3 жыл бұрын
Amazed to hear about the bear story. Goes to show that ammo choice is critical. Nice to know that if you own one of these guns you have an optional carry round for a woods walk in case you get mugged by a Sasquatch. Times are tough, you never can tell....
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I think the 9mm would be a great choice in this gun and bullet.
@rogerbennett9923
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your vids on the .327 , I bought a Ruger LCR .327 a few months back and it has been one of my EDC guns. It's one of the best snubbies I've ever owned. It's loads of fun to shoot and the trigger and sights are excellent.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have noticed that I usually hit what I aim at no matter the distance.
@williammcclelland6789
3 жыл бұрын
Love this video and would like to see more like it. I have been preaching the virtues of the 32 caliber family for years, but I often feel like the lone voice in the wilderness.
@mitubogoogle
3 жыл бұрын
You r not alone here😀
@TheNecronacht
3 жыл бұрын
Really really wish that Ruger made the lcrx 327 Federal Magnum revolver in a 3 inch like the 38 Special +P... That would be an awesome carry option!
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@billybigtime7749
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! That would be great!
@joesophmangum2077
3 жыл бұрын
They make a 3inch sp101
@TheNecronacht
3 жыл бұрын
@@joesophmangum2077 Yeah, I know and want one as well. But having an option of lighter carry 27oz for the SP101 vs 15oz or so for the LCRX would be a nice option. That and also that the LCRX has a better set of rear sights vs the rear notch on the SP101. Also wish they still made the GP100 4 inch 7 shot. Got my eyes open for them at local gun shows. The 327 Fed Mag is so under appreciated...
@exothermal.sprocket
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheNecronacht You're referring to this one, right? www.ruger.com/products/gp100/specSheets/1769.html
@jimreed6875
3 жыл бұрын
That little .327 has turned out to be a pretty good round. This could be just the thing for someone who wanted a pocket revolver.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I mean it really is. People debate .38 VS .357 all the time...but what if there was something close to .38 Special recoil and close to .357 Magnum power...in the same round? Well, there is ! The .327 Federal Magnum is very much that.
@mkshffr4936
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Plus you have the option of the H&R and the S&W long and short. I need more money for gun stuff. :D
@billybigtime7749
3 жыл бұрын
@@mkshffr4936 I totally agree!
@gbsorenson
3 жыл бұрын
I love my 327, just wish I had it in the snubby, I'd carry it more often then.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
It's an amazing weapon. It's sort of like a 9mm long in a way....you get similar energy with 9mm+P and .357 Mag in snubs, but the 357 has twice the recoil as it's more powerful. Same with .327 VS .357, you get all the power of the .357 but none of the recoil.
@jpb1231000
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Gey Sam, Didn't Smith and Wesson do some 327 Fed Mag revolvers???
@mkshffr4936
3 жыл бұрын
After watching the 9 did better than I expected. The bullet shape is as you say probably a major factor. Both bullets are rather heavy for caliber so the tumbling is not really surprising.
@bloodstriper3649
3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that a short barrel with such a high FPS in the 327 significantly increases the tumbling factor. A longer 4 inch barrel could possibly mitigate that.
@russelder9743
3 жыл бұрын
I cant remember the last time I saw 327 mag handguns ......I would like to grab one
@scubaguy007
3 жыл бұрын
Good video. The LCR in .327 is a unicorn these days.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@ratagris21
3 жыл бұрын
Great video presentation Sam. That .327 mag is a firecracker for sure. Good multiple purpose round to have. Great job! ☯️♠️🎩
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@andywilson8698
3 жыл бұрын
Yay 327 ,yay 9mm! I love the test man.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I plan to get more 9mm and .327 ammo shortly. Buffalo Bore, cause it's available!
@andywilson8698
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam nice !
@Predalien195
3 жыл бұрын
One of the very early write ups for .327 Federal Magnum summed up what makes it "superior" to 9mm quite clear. The ballistics .327 Federal Magnum was getting from a 3 inch revolver were roughly the same as 4.5 to 5 inch barrel ballistics on 9mm using +P loads. So even in the LCR with it's snub nose, compared to that Taurus, it's still superior ever so slightly. But the main point is you typically need a longer barrel i.e a larger gun to achieve the same ballistics. Of course, the drawback is obviously capacity but I'm not trying to make that argument. And in my testing of .327 Federal this has shown to be true. Back when Speer made the 115gr Gold Dots for the .327 in my 3 inch SP101 it was producing similar or superior ballistics to 9mm 115gr Gold Dots depending on the barrel lengths. Compacts with 3.5 or shorter barrels in 9mm were worse, but 4.5 inch barrels tended to produce roughly the same numbers and performance. I've done a bit of distance shooting with them too to see if the "flatter trajectory" bit held much weight and I can safely say you notice differences out from 40 yards and farther. Up close, not too massive of a difference in my hands but your results may differ. Overall, looking forward to the tests.
@Arman-jx7hu
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and very interesting. That 327 is a great caliber!
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@magnum.357mtb5
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Sam, I want a lcr .327mag really bad , good stuff 💪👏👏
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@FirstNameLastName-dq5lv
3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see an 8 round 327 federal magnum revolver that fires from the 6 o’clock position like a chiapa rhino (but not made by chiapa 😆). Id like to see S&W do this (but without the Smith lock). Revolver manufacturers need to get more creative and take risks.
@bruceleroy8063
3 жыл бұрын
You don't dig the rainbow rhino? Lol
@alltheseflavors
3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome! Take risks, and listen to their target consumers.
@ted.angell7609
3 жыл бұрын
If police departments hadn't gone to semi-autos, my speculation is they would be favoring a nine or ten round revolver with a 4" barrel, and .327 would rule the market.
@mitubogoogle
3 жыл бұрын
I'ts on my letter to Santa too🎅
@bobcatforever3485
3 жыл бұрын
As always and good interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@garylewis3641
3 жыл бұрын
Good video, the 9mm is definitely a hot little round!
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Thank you.
@sherrypulec1449
3 жыл бұрын
never been impressed with either one of those, try a 158gn in a 38 super auto and you will know what i am talking about, lower recoil than the 9mm and energy near that of a 357 makes it hard to beat.
@kentuckywindage222
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. 38 Super is an excellent round. The last one I shot was very accurate also. This is a round i have considered for carry myself. The ammo being not as popular and easy to find was my issue. As well as ammo selection. Excellent video Sam. Haven't had the pleasure of shooting or owning the 327 mag. So the comparison really helps with knowing it's capability.
@mitubogoogle
3 жыл бұрын
I read about it -seems like a great round
@mitubogoogle
3 жыл бұрын
"Thanks" Sam...as a result of all of ur videos on .327, ALL revolvers are *SOLD OUT* !!! Not available even *used* at online marketplaces, Ruger has no clue on when will they b available
@Predalien195
3 жыл бұрын
Sadly production numbers were not as high to begin with due to lack of interest. Plus with .327 ammo not really being produced at the moment it's no surprise. Federal and Hornady are the only major companies loading for it. Buffalo Bore and Underwood do load for it as well but nowhere near the same volume and much like Federal at the moment are dedicating their supplies to other calibers.
@davidbaker1069
3 жыл бұрын
I bought two Ruger’s a few years ago. SP101 is a very good platform, charter arms makes (made?) a 32 H&R in 7 shot.
@Predalien195
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbaker1069 Charter still makes it. It's the Professional, 3 inch barrel with a 7 shot cylinder. Got it sitting in my gun safe at this moment.
@davidbaker1069
3 жыл бұрын
Just a caution to you guys. I bought a Ruger SP101 in 327 on line a couple of years ago. When it showed up, I was shocked at the incredibly poor quality of workmanship on the pistol. It would not go into battery, meaning the cylinder would not line up with the barrel, there were manufacturing scars and blemishes everywhere, the trigger spring assembly was bent and parts broken..... Brand new. I took it to a gunsmith friend of mine, we took it apart, made a video as we did it, found 14 things wrong with its assembly and build, and 6 faults that would have made it unsafe to fire. I then sent the pistol back to Ruger, had a very long discussion with their customer service department, told them the firearm was so bad I wanted it replaced, and after looking at my video, the Ruger customer service person said it looked worse than anything they had seen, and she said she had talked extensively with their team about it. I got the pistol back less than a week later, with a form that said they had “resolved the 4 issues” and thanked me for working with them. Not a thing was fixed, and over the next two months I sent messages, made phone calls, sent videos...... not a thing happened. The SP101 sat in my safe for 18 months, I gave up, took it back to the gunsmith, and after ordering new parts for the trigger assembly, sanding down burrs all over the pistol, we finally got it to were it was safe to shoot, then found out the front sight was not pinned in, and lost that in the tall grass. Found that later, but decided to put an after market sight on, and found out the front sight machining was not done right....... After about $400 worth of work, got the pistol to shoot well enough I would consider depending on it..... I will never buy another Ruger pistol without first inspecting it, closely. Which is a real shame, because my first pistol was a Ruger Mark I .22, my second was (still have it) Ruger Security Six, then a Mark IV, then a GP100. After the .327 debacle, I did buy another Ruger, but this time used from a guy who let me test fire it first. Later, a friend who used to work for Ruger told me a few stories about how Ruger runs their machining tools to destruction, and his opinion is I got one of the last of the pistols that particular set of tools was “able” to squeak out. To be fair, Ruger swears to me, to this day, they did not send me a defective pistol, their inspection standards would not have allowed that to happen.
@Predalien195
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbaker1069 Sounds like a nightmare... but a rare case. Triggers are one of the biggest complaints I hear about on the SP101. People saying they need work and etc. I've had mine for going on 10 years now and it's been faithful every time. Though I have had some issues with some of the American Eagle JSP's swelling in the chambers but cant tell if that's ammo or gun related as none of the others have this issue.
@patforet7336
3 жыл бұрын
I bought both the 327 fed. mag Single 7 & SP 101 with 4-,2" bbls. Both came with adjustable sights. Can't say enough about both. Easy shooting & accurate with punch.
@user-lg4zm5nj8t
3 жыл бұрын
All malfunctions are bad. Thats way I roll with revolvers..
@nathanlambshead4778
3 жыл бұрын
Major wheelgun fan here. But they can fail also, and badly when they do. I still will rely on one before anything else though.
@rorybybee5937
3 жыл бұрын
I believe the rifling twist in the short barreled 327 is to slow to stabilize a bullet that heavy. The LCR was designed I believe to use bullets of 115 grains or less. Still it was interesting and informative to see the difference in both rounds. I would like to see a comparison with these loads out of 4 inch barrels. The 327 should see a good increase in velocity and penetration and will likely be stabilized in the longer barrel aiding in its penetration.
@dalekidd420
3 жыл бұрын
I can't say I'm surprised by the overall effectiveness of the .327. Quite a number of years ago, I did a bit of brief contract work in a country that prohibited civilian use of any "modern military or police" caliber round, so anything over .357" diameter was off the table. As a result, the team all carried Ruger SP101 revolvers in the old .32 H&R Mag. I was pleasantly surprised with that round; it delivered energy levels comparable to a decent .38 Spl. duty load. With the .327 Federal having been designed specifically to eclipse that one, I would have expected about what you found here, though I have not had the opportunity to try it out myself to date.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's very good. The .32 H&R to .327 Mag is like going from .380 to 9mm. Just a tad snappier but double the power, but not a significant recoil difference.
@zachariahz9832
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison!
@troy9477
3 жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised at tge 9mm velocity. 975-1000 fps is considered good for a 147 from a 4" barrel. The 327 is interesting. A 130 gr bullet is very heavy for the bore diameter, so the SD should be very good. And we have seen that a JHP of 100 gr or so works well. One of the commenters mentioned that other manufacturers should get involved. I think a 7 shot Kimber (K7S?) woukd be great. They might have to make the cylinder slightly wider and adjust the frame dimensions accordingly, but the diffs would not be huge. Should be a great carry piece.
@GingerAleDude
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure neither would be my go to bear defense choices. Agreeably better than a sharp stick.
@weirdshibainu
3 жыл бұрын
The 2 times I had to draw my weapon in the wild wasnt because of 4 legged animals...it was the 2 legged type.
@joeltowle2737
3 жыл бұрын
That .327 is a Beast!
@edj6369
3 жыл бұрын
It’s been a while since I read about the Grizzly bear shooting on BB’s site, but the gun used by the guide was a Smith and Wesson 3953 (or 3954). Those 3rd Generation Smith 9mm semi autos are well known for reliability and ammo insensitivity. I have owned several including a DAO 3953. Minor correction, barrel length is 3.5 inches, not 4. The real reason for my comment: excellent video! Thank you.
@GModBMXer
3 жыл бұрын
Good choice. Like the g2c myself
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
It seems to be pretty decent overall. Other than my glove I think my only jams with it were with Winchester steel case ammo.
@Fudmottin
3 жыл бұрын
The 327 Federal Magnum is a tempting round to add to my list of calibers. I've actually spent more on ammo this year than the cost of a Ruger LCR in 327 Magnum. I guess I'm just not comfortable with the LCR concept.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Mine's been decent. But I wouldn't want t hand load it. Lets stretch out that special heat treat and load a 45,000 PSI cartridge. No thanks!
@rustybayonetcom
3 жыл бұрын
Sam, you need to do 40 vs 45
@randysouse-git531
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting as always, I truly enjoy watching your methodology put into action. I've not tried the Buffalo Bore 130gr Hard Cast Keith out of my LCR. On paper, it falls into the same category as American Eagle or Speer 100gr "hot" loads I have tried. I think it's just too much for the 1.87" barrel length to "process" properly - I view such rounds as likely designed for 4" or more of barrel length and inefficient in the snubbie. That said, I do like the Buffalo Bore 130gr Hard Cast Keith in .32 H&R Mag +P. I've not shot a lot of them, but I've not seen any of the handful I have shot keyhole on a target. On paper, they are equivalent to the .327 Federal Mag 85gr Hydra-Shok or 85gr American Eagle JSP in terms of downrange energy. BB claims the .32 H&R +P does 1133fps from a 3" SP101 which yield 370 ft/lbs: the exact same yield Federal gets from the Hydra-Shok and AE JSP from their 4" test barrel. And that's one thing about the .327 chambering I love: you can deep dive the ammo choices from .32 S&W up through .327 Federal and come up with so many interesting choices to tailor fit all different types of use scenarios. Thanks for another highly illuminating video.
@adamlowe9532
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing is believing. Calibers alone, not projectiles or velocities tested in them give them more street credit than any fact on record. With my screw off backyard hand loads I've seen some crazy stuff. Its hilarious a .22 lr or 115 grain 9mm fmj round will barely move an empty 12 oz can, exit hole almost mimics the entrance. But, a 45 auto 750 fps 200 swc target paper puncher through the same can almost has an exit hole 3x the size. And the can actually moves. A lot.
@adamlowe9532
3 жыл бұрын
I nicknamed those cookie cutter paper punchers rip saws after that range day. That's some serious damage. Hollow points are more forgiving.
@RANDOMNATION907
3 жыл бұрын
That tells me more than I'd believe it would have. Niner is a solid consideration. Still leaning toward 38 Spl. Leigh High , Defender. & a 3" barrel.
@jordanlee9246
3 жыл бұрын
Your glove snagging in the slide is another reason I carry a revolver. Plenty of things can disrupt a slide. Just to go back to a previous video you made about revolver reliability. Especially a hammerless edc revolver, that just won’t happen.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Not trying to discredit your statement as it's correct overall, but to be fair I have had an issue with gloves and small frame revolvers. Larger frame ones are fine with gloves, but I have had small frame ones get the glove stuck in the top of the trigger preventing reset and preventing the next round from firing. Pulling the glove off and out of the trigger is pretty easy to get it going again, but it's something I have had happen.
@Nawojczyk
3 жыл бұрын
You are the Mr Wizard of all my gun channels I subscribe to.
@supercomp65
Жыл бұрын
Ive taken several deer with my Ruger GP100 327 shooting a handload with a 100 gr XTP over a stout charge of Accurate #9, running about 1680 fps. None have made it more than 50 yards.
@swedeson6188
3 жыл бұрын
9:50, the bullets are keyholing on impact, so something is not matching up, like twist rate with that bullet. Do you have another gun to try that ammo with?
@PerfectTangent
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, two keyholed when he did the velocity test, so it's definitely something funky with the ammo.
@alltheseflavors
3 жыл бұрын
Sold my 327 LCR after I bought 2 9's & a 380, thinking I'd never carry the snubby again.. what a mistake that was. The LCP jams bad, even after improving it. Probably gonna sell it for a 442/642 if I can find one, or get the 327 back but yeah that ammo wasn't cheap even before Covid, and the rattle really bothered me even tho it doesn't matter haha. I just think the S&W looks better too, only wish they made grips that cover the backstrap but I guess not except crimson trace
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
My LCP jams and people told me it was only me. So i'm glad to hear your misfortune lol. The rattle of the LCR is nothing, just the transfer bar in there. Pretty much all double action revolvers have that rattle with S&W being the exception.
@knifeslicer38
3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a test of 3 inch barrel 45 acp vs 3 inch barrel .38 spl. Would be interesting
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I did a very short stupid video like 4 years ago like that, but 3.7" .45 and snub .38, just one water jug.
@coreymerrill3257
5 ай бұрын
For dangerous game areas, I'd stick with what buffalo bore used to test the ammo with if possible. A ruger sp101 with 3 inch barrel . They show 1291 fps average for that ,1391 fps for a 5.5 inch Redhawk and 1450fps for a 7.5 inch from something called a sparrowhawk. I know ruger does make the single six " single seven" in 7.5 inch. The lcr is IMHO better for self defense with more standard loads of 85-100 grains. Bufflo bore stayes the 3 inch will perforate a large bears skull with the 130 keith type hard cast. Im thinking the lcr definitely handicapped the .327 . It is a very long for caliber bullet and as such, it needs some extra velocity to stabilize. I'm guessing that's why they used the 3 inch barrel for the shortest length. It is commonly known that heavier bullets stabilize from faster twist rates. But that's only a partial truth. It is actually bullet length not weight that effects twist stability.however velocity also matters. the faster the bullet is moving,the slower the twist rate can be. You are getting about 150fps less than the .327 3 inch barrel tested so it is not stabilizing well. A yawing bullet will have reduced penetration. By " keith type" bullet it refers to Elmer Keith.He did most of the work for developing the .357 and .44 magnums and designed bullets for hunting big and dangerous game with them both. He would load these heavy wide meplat bullets into .38 and .44 spcl cases at super high pressure and hunt elk, bear , deer ect. The smith and Wesson triple lock n frame was made specifically for his heavy loads. As for that 9mm, I am not surprised by how well it did. 147 grains is a typical bullet weight and is figured into the barrel twist selection. Typical being 115,124 and 147 grains. It is well known for deep penetration at modest velocity. A standard 115 grain load gets about 1150 fps from a full sized pistol and already penetrates to an extreme with ball ammo and failed hollow points. A 147 grain hard cast round nose wide meplat bullet at the same velocity is going to do some serious work . I habe a feeling the drift of the 9 was caused by the round nose profile while the 327 was from marginal stability. The round nose is well known to do what it does here. African pro hunters only use round nose profile solids for feeding reliability in repeating rifles do to its tendency to curve and deflect. For double rifles ,they almost universally pick the standard tapered ogive wide flat nose for straight tracking and minimal deflection in heavy game. These are just smaller versions of African dangerous game bullets for smaller dangerous game. 130 grain and 147 grain solids for 500-1200 lbs. animals or 300-700 grain solids for 2000-9000 pound animals . These are comparatively larger to hogzilla ,mad mr moose and big grizzly and brown bears than whats used on angry cape buffalo to large rogue elephants. Crazy to think 10mm auto with heavy hard casts have taken down not just bears but cape buffalo and hippo. Rant over. Try the 327 130 grains with the longer Barrel or the much shorter 120 grain double tap wfn hard casts? Idk if that will matter though with a advertised velocity of 1250 , implying a full sized gun.
@geraldblackburn4883
Жыл бұрын
I want a .327 and we need more industry support, and we need a 3.25 and a 3.5 in study and maybe even a 4 in barrel version we need animal stopping power !
@yellowboxster06
2 жыл бұрын
Stopping a charging bear with a 9mm sounds more like a kill or be killed situation. It’s a great round but that’s asking a lot…unless you have no other choice.
@bobjohnson4677
3 жыл бұрын
People at your local store must think, he loves bologna
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Well, seeing as i'm a single dad that does all the shopping, and buy 2 packs at a time in a full cart of food, in a large store.....it would be really odd if anyone did come to that conclusion.
@northsidecubbie
3 жыл бұрын
Picked up some of the same Buffalo Bore Hard Cast but haven't shot it out my lcrx. Good video as always
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I also did another test with 9mm+P VS .327 Mag but in Buffalo Bore XTP hollow points. Very comparable, I will release the video one of these days.
@northsidecubbie
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Thanks. Look forward to it
@bloodstriper3649
3 жыл бұрын
As always, an outstanding ballistics test. I love my 327 and believe it can put a mountain lion down. With proper shot placement, even a black bear, which are two of the predator I'll most likely encounter. Already had a black bear encounter and I was unarmed, but he was a gentlemanly bear and gave me a "free mauling" pass. 😁
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@michaelpage4199
3 жыл бұрын
Really great review
@geraldblackburn4883
Жыл бұрын
the .380 with the new hot loads.
@d.hayward5232
3 жыл бұрын
I'll take any ammo that drifts to the RIGHT, thank you. 😇
@petergrant9259
3 жыл бұрын
I think we now see the round needs to fit the barrel lenght...327 fed mag in a 20 " henry rifle vs the 1.78 barrel of the lcr completely changes results..imo.... some of your results with sw 32 long with better shot placement can be more effective in cc..
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Well the .327 is it's own thing and I don't really see it in the same way I see .357 Mag or .44 Mag with a snub to rifle being a significant increase. I have never really seen rifle velocities tested, but what I do know is .327 Federal uses less powder than .357 Mag but at a higher pressure, so it retains way more of it's potential energy in a snub than a .357 Magnum does.
@kirkhiggins3044
3 жыл бұрын
If only .327 wasn’t so dang expensive. Of course all ammo is expensive right now.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a couple bucks a round, but the great thing with a revolver is no need to shoot any to check for reliability. It's gonna work. Especially from a company known for quality ammo.
@weirdshibainu
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, its expensive. But what is your life worth?
@kirkhiggins3044
3 жыл бұрын
@@weirdshibainu I have several options for self defense. 9, .38, .357. Just making an observation about the .327.
@weirdshibainu
3 жыл бұрын
@@kirkhiggins3044 got it
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
@@weirdshibainu I have thought about making a video about Buffalo Bore ammo because I find it to be the best. Most people think of it as just power, they only load power period. But what I have seen is Buffalo Bore does not always do this, they rather load as hot as they can while still making the quality right. Like their 100 gr XTP .327 is like 1,250 FPS 350 ft lbs or something like that, they loaded to be perfect, not powerful. Same with their .44 Mag 180 gr anti-personnel. Just tested it, not released video yet but in my 4" revolver about 1,300 FPS 675 ft lbs. But, the bullet performed exactly like 15" comparison to gel and expanded perfectly, over 1.5 times and no jacket separation, great accuracy. They also roll crimp their revolver rounds so well, never ever would one creep out or fall into the case. Very much worth what they charge. They HAVE to be testing their loads and then stopping right where they are most accurate and perform well rather than over-power them. As a hand loader I can clearly see what they are doing, it would take me more money to do all that myself.
@Ruweisat
3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see these two calibers with hollow points in the gel.
@mobilemiall
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to find some of those hard cast .312 bullets to handload some stout rounds for my .327 Henry lever action.
@carlosreyes6448
3 жыл бұрын
I buy mine from rim rock bullets.
@alfontana6242
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, you cover all the areas in your reviews. Its nice that you also chronograph the loads as well, some reviews on ammo the author does not chronograph the loads, to me with the low cost of chronographs today, that review is a fail, in my humble opinion....
@happycamper9300
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, my 2 prefer calibers
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@geraldblackburn4883
Жыл бұрын
Mass wins, you mention an bear, I am a .45 guy and think if I was in bear Country, I want a .45 acp as a min and the Buffalo Bore 255 gr solid !
@danielreid3476
3 жыл бұрын
I have only recently started looking at the 327 Federal, but it seems to have a lot going for it. It's a good uptick in power over the 38 Special, without the blast and recoil of the 357 Magnum. I suspect it would be a really good nightstand gun to have at the ready.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
It's a better snub load, but in 4" I will say the .357 Mag is better. One thing I have noticed though, is that the right .32 H&R Mag in this snub also works great. Just like the .327 is to the .357 being maybe 10% less powerful and 40% less recoil, these numbers are exactly the same between .38 Special and .32 H&R mag. And just like the .327 is to the .357, the .32 H&R Mag does everything the .38 Special does with 10% less energy, because the bullet is smaller so it takes less for it to penetrate and also expand.
@chrish.4067
3 жыл бұрын
For me the advertised lower recoil of the 327 never manifest. My 30 oz sp101 4" barrel in .327 fed magnum has more recoil the my 22 oz stainless J frame snubby in 38+p. I like the 327 fine and power wise I feel you have shown it competes with 9mm in power and a bit more. Out of my 4" sp101 I think it's close in power, but not quite there, to the .357. Good stuff Sam.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. It might just be perception, hand size, type of grip or any number of factors for this but for me it seems like significantly less recoil than .357 Mag in my 20 oz snub, and the LCR is only 17 oz.
@chrish.4067
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam I'm slighter of build and have loss muscle mass as I have aged. LOL....I'm back over 150 lbs at 6' tall now though. In my 38 spcl LCRx, it's 14 oz. And I'm still working on my accuracy using 38+p with it.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrish.4067 See i'm 6 ft 251 and trying to bring that size down lol. Lost 7 pounds this week reducing calories.
@rorybybee5937
3 жыл бұрын
The 327 out of a 4 inch revolver delivers about 500 ft lbs. It is definitely going to kick harder than a 38 plus p. The advertising was that the 327 had less recoil than the 357 magnum.this was based on 3 inch sp101 revolvers when the 327 was first introduced. This is true. My 5 1/2 inch single seven has less recoil then a 4 inch 357 and gives probably around 600 ft lbs.
@chrish.4067
3 жыл бұрын
The bad guys mostly prey on smaller people or women. I always stand tall and walk with confidence when out, especially like downtown in a city. It helps to be tall and or sturdy looking. About ten years ago I witnessed two guys in a car grab a woman's handbag and drag her for 5 yards or so until the strap thankfully broke. I heard her arm break as she hit the ground. Bad stuff! Even if I had been armed, what could I have done? You can't just shoot into a fleeing car. I was pissed off. This was in a relatively safe mountain town. The cops caught the thugs after they tried their sick game at a local shopping mall.
@johnkinsel5027
3 жыл бұрын
Not related to this video, but I see you are a handloader & revolver fan. Have you considered an episode on different powders in snubbies? Safe loads using Bullseye, Unique & 2400 to see if slow powders are a waste in 2 inch barrels?
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Well those kind of videos might be difficult. But what I can say is so far Titegroup loaded to max pressure almost always is perfect in non magnum revolver rounds. Very clean, low flash and more energy than most.
@guardianminifarm8005
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks.
@user-hh3nb2kj7z
5 ай бұрын
That 327 was sending smoke signals to the next county over jeez
@GunSam
5 ай бұрын
Lead bullets at high pressure will do that. It's partially melting lead and melting wax being burned mid-air.
@charlesirby9222
3 жыл бұрын
I am surprised at the yaw of the .32 before it hit the first board? Was the barrel leaded up some from the hardcast?
@danoneill2846
3 жыл бұрын
My blind guess is that the bullet is skidding & the barrel is too short to lock in & give it the spin it needs . If you look at the bullet you can see skid marks > IF < That is what has happened , what to look for is the engraving is WIDE in some areas , they should all be the same . OR the bullet is too long for the speed or twist rate or BOTH together ... and skid = key hole . Perfect storm .
@elsullo2
3 жыл бұрын
Great test! Ammo might be scarce now, but keep in mind my wish to see a comparison of different .32 Magnum loads, of which there are new ones now. I bought some new Critical Defense hollowpoints in .32 Magnum, but have not seen them tested anywhere. I carry Buffalo Bore hollowpoints that are HOT .32 Magnum loads, and have likewise not seen any tests of that one. They might as well be called +P as they make a bigger BOOM and a little more recoil, but my S&W Centennial .32 Magnum shows ZERO damage from firing twenty of them so far. Thanks!.......................elsullo
@techfixr2012
2 жыл бұрын
A 2.5 j frame 6 shot .327. Yes please.
@jamespugh
3 жыл бұрын
First time here great comparison. 10mm is the go to in alaska know with hard cast. Im from pa. I carried 380acp for along time to I move to 40s&w
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I have carried a lot of things. Started out with an SP101 .357 Mag 2.25" with .357 Mag ammo, then went to a Glock 36 in .45 ACP, then went to .38 Special, .380 LCP, 9mm's, .327 and .32's, probably more I can't remember. I have finally found that the LCR .327 Mag is the best option. No better choice for a pocket 6 round gun.
@grantdeisig1360
2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna guess that the 130gr 327 bullets don't play well with that LCR's short barrel and twist rate. I just bought some of these for my 4.2" SP101, so I hope they stabilize a little better.
@shaneholzkamm2118
3 жыл бұрын
Sam what's up man that was very interesting to see in those rounds witch got me thinking if you get a chance you should test the 380 hard cast vs 38sp hard cast people going to think im crazy but every year I hunt i try to take a deer with my carry pistol witch now is my lcp2 I'm curious to see what that hard cast round can do hope your doing good my friend take care
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, anything can take a deer including .380. Just difficult and probably a long tracking time to find the deer
@shaneholzkamm2118
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam ya that's true when I was a teenager and didn't no much about guns I new the basics and of course gun safety my uncle killed a deer with a Beretta tom cat I believe don't hold me to that part but it was a 32acp it hopped about 10 feet and fail over dead it was a close range shot we could have literally about reached out a touched it from where we where sitting she walked right up to us didn't even know we where there I'd say if i had to guess with in 10 15 feet from us plus his shot placement was perfect too I won't go in to details but for a 32acp it did some pretty nasty damage on the inside anyway
@shaneholzkamm2118
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam I found a couple boxs of those rounds in 380acp ima order them in a few days if it's something you might be interested in testing let me know when i get them I'll send you a box with everything going on it might be awhile tho
@michaelobrien8875
3 жыл бұрын
Love my 327 ruger single 7. But to be fair, don't think the 327 had a fair chance with this test . Meaning , a 130 grain bullet is extremely large for that caliber. Then to shoot it out of a snub nose ,well no wonder it tumbled! There's not enough barrel length for the bullet to stabalize its self. And as far as picking the 9mm over the 10mm for grizzlys , NO WAY!! make that the next test, the 9mm vs 10mm with same ammo then see what you get!
@johnparrish9215
3 жыл бұрын
You know, if S&W would build a medium frame super light 8 shot revolver with a 3.5 inch barrel in this caliber, I would not mind buying one.
@TheMarkTenification
3 жыл бұрын
You're gonna drive up gunbroker prices higher on .327! My current dream gun is an SP 101 3" barrel .327
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I still want that one. Who wouldn't? I mean it's the original gun the cartridge was designed off from with the original barrel length.
@geraldblackburn4883
Жыл бұрын
Good show, I am surprised and debunked, the 9 wins. Now I do the .380 and make that a comparison ?
@danoneill2846
3 жыл бұрын
At least 2 rounds 327 looked to key hole in the target
@chasa4347
2 жыл бұрын
the only thing stopping me from getting a 327 mag is the lack of ammunition. (even worse than the lack of other calibers)
@GunSam
2 жыл бұрын
I see .32 S&W Long everywhere. I buy it all the time.
@876mpr
3 жыл бұрын
I think I want an SP 101, but I’m going to have to go with .357.
@williamray3101
Жыл бұрын
9 mm. Good cartridge
@danieljarman1313
3 жыл бұрын
Think that barrel is too short for the heavier than normal bullet.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Probably. Got a little .38 Special snub thing going on. Muzzle jump before the bullet leaves the bore. Throwing it high.
@garysarratt1
3 жыл бұрын
Your water is frozen; what state are you in?
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
lol, not frozen unless you mean the spilled water. Michigan
@bennybailey1520
3 жыл бұрын
Barrels are too short to stabilize them properly. Use 4 inch barrel for the 327 130 grain Is long and heavy for 327
@dcidci1012
3 жыл бұрын
9 MM the winner ! I choose 38 + P from a 357 M Smith. 327 is no doubt capable, but not readily available even before the shortage. so unless you reload I say stay away from 327.
@ggreloaded5269
3 жыл бұрын
Hey man love your channel! Quick question, I have 2 kimber k6s a snub and a 3” dasa model. I was offered an even trade for my 3” model for a smith and wesson 632 in excellent condition, im really intrigued. Im just concerned about ammo availability and I do not reload. You think it’s a bad time to jump on that caliber? Is that a decent trade in your opinion? Thank you in advance and I have learned so much about revolvers from you over the years. 🙏🏼
@rhinovirus2225
3 жыл бұрын
The instant tumbling of the 327 on the board test is concerning
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Well either it's tumbling in flight or tumbling upon impact. I should have shot long range to know. I would think the large meplat nose would not tumble one way or another upon impact, but it seems to be.
@rhinovirus2225
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam longer range on maybe paper or cardboard would verify tumbling in air. I would hope that its tumbling on impact
@leadbullets4life
3 жыл бұрын
the 130gn .327 is a long bullet as if you were shooting a home made .32 super police but with higher velocity some what of a 38/200 copy.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
That's true. Never thought of that and a round nose would do pretty good if slowed down a tad.
@leadbullets4life
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam yes indeed.
@charlesphillips5906
3 жыл бұрын
Did you get a deer?
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't hunted in 5 years. I just don't go out in the woods as there's a lot of neighbors hunting and I don't want to mess with all of that.
@hulado
3 жыл бұрын
if they tumble who needs expansion? i like it.
@Baurakale777
3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't seem fair.
@srflegal6544
3 жыл бұрын
When you did the board test, did you flip the stack over, so you were shooting at the bottom for each caliber?
@ba1868
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, ya gonna eat that???
@williamray3101
Жыл бұрын
Got a Ruger security 6. 2. 3/4. Inch barrel. Made 1974. Stainless. Beat that 327 your shooting. Keep a full size 9 on my hip.beretta storm 18 rounds of critical duty put a man down easy.😊😊😊
@STLSNIPER
3 жыл бұрын
Sam...You're shooting really fast between shots..😏..Your accuracy is usually much better...
@danoneill2846
3 жыл бұрын
@8:45 is that a political statement ?? Mr Glock , Mr Luger & Arnold all come from Austria . Many Austrians are conservative , free market people . 9MM Luger
@danoneill2846
3 жыл бұрын
just messin with you HA!
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Why I carry 327!
@mitubogoogle
3 жыл бұрын
I am with YOU - My father is Austrian. Dankeschön!!!😎
@mitubogoogle
3 жыл бұрын
@@danoneill2846 LOL don't mess w Austrians. BTW Danny O'Neill is a celebrity coffee roast master - THE ROASTERIE in Kansas City
@danoneill2846
3 жыл бұрын
@@mitubogoogle There are lots of people with my name ! Best of luck to Danny O in time's like this !!!
@user-es5vz5ry2j
3 жыл бұрын
Did the 327s tumble on impact or are they not stabilizing?
@benjimenfranklin7650
3 жыл бұрын
I would go with the 9mm but I Wonder what it would be like in 357 Magnum.
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
I tried it, but it was a 4" barrel test.
@benjimenfranklin7650
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam You would need a Beretta 92 to compare it with.
@techfixr2012
2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a 12 shot N frame Smith in .327? Would it fit with true modern materials?
@techfixr2012
2 жыл бұрын
Cali and NY can suck it. No magizine.
@GunSam
2 жыл бұрын
That would be funny. But realistically an N frame would probably be more like 9 shot in a .32 caliber. Which is still impressive.
@chalermiamhirun2818
3 жыл бұрын
ขนาด.357หรือขนาด.327ๆขนาดนี้ไม่เคยเห็น
@BobMarley-dk9hn
2 жыл бұрын
Question, I'm someone with arthritis but I'm looking for something powerful to carry. Would this be a good option?
@GunSam
2 жыл бұрын
Probably but it depends. Hard to know how it feels for you. I don't have arthritis, but do have rheumatoid arthritis and I definitely can say, no matter the energy, bullet weight matters a lot for pain afterwards. A 100 gr bullet going however fast it needs to go to be maybe 400 ft lbs, feels way better than a warm.44 Special or something like that the next day.
@BobMarley-dk9hn
2 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam that definitely makes sense. I'd certainly love to try shooting one. Appreciate the input
@davidbaker1069
3 жыл бұрын
So 9mm is typically European, moving to the left?
@highsecurityagent8778
3 жыл бұрын
Why did you use a147gr subsonic ammo?
@GunSam
3 жыл бұрын
The better question is, why is someone asking why I used a 147 gr hard cast ammo, when 147 gr is the only weight 9mm hard cast comes in.
@highsecurityagent8778
3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam You still should have used something with an fps closer to the speed and size of the 327 federal ammo. Good video though. Don't throw that bologna away, get some good cheese and enjoy.🤣😂
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