This is the 3 hour long EXTENDED cut of the 8 hour opening stream. As I ended up developing almost all of the base planning and design choices for the entire run in THIS stream, I decided to deviate from the standard episode length and include every important detail for those interested. Use the chapters to browse to your hearts content! A 30 minute normal length cut of this stream comes out tomorrow (and all remaining cuts will be normal length too), so if you don't want to invest 3 hours, wait for tomorrow (or use the secret code =KD1oh1AgsP0 today already!). But I promise you this video will fly by like if you were playing Factorio yourself! ;) Thanks to DocJade for inspiring me to try this mod. It was a LOT of fun! If you want to see 2 COMPLETELY different approaches to this mod (seriously, the only thing DocJade and I have in common is that we both don't like to pave over our factories in concrete. And puns. LOTS of puns.), go check out DocJade's 2 part video here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qnqV1p1_jWaCp6w kzitem.info/news/bejne/wJmgr6aps2p1fKg
@Dj.Ladylox
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Supercut I actually prefer these longer videos. Been watching your content for a year.
@NevadaCowboy576
3 ай бұрын
Bro, I love Docjade, you guys need to collab for sure
@Achpile
4 ай бұрын
Best way to handle this many science packs with no bots is.... "Patented Michael Hendriks Handfeed" !!!
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
Handfeeding is life!
@Juni_0220
4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks No spoonfeeding though, there is no Spoon
@SoylentGamer
4 ай бұрын
Damaging your gun turrets to carry more of them, that's a new Michael Hendriks trick right there
@metamud8686
4 ай бұрын
36:39 for whoever is wondering. 🙂
@Xudmud
4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: You can combine this with the "More Science Packs" mod that adds 30 additional science packs. In case you wanted even more science packs to have to craft. And then there's the randomize option... (which sadly doesn't seem to mesh well with mods that add a lot of new ores. The obvious solution there is to extract the mod and manually set the most cursed recipes you can think of, like the "Bob Ross" science pack that wants about 10,000 trees)
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
If Only I Knew At The Time... I like the idea, let's also add Bob Ross' "Paint him a little friend" science pack, which ALSO requires 10000 trees
@Miser_Mask
4 ай бұрын
That sounds like the kind of thing Dosh should do.
@canebro1
4 ай бұрын
It better also add something to automate creating trees, like the K2 greenhouse...
@Xudmud
4 ай бұрын
@@canebro1 (sorry KZitem nommed the original comment) To be fair the 10k trees recipe was one I hardcoded in, mainly to see if the game would even accept it. I'd done specifically trees with the Dectorio mod, as opposed to just wood. In retrospect I probably should have written my own mod to patch the recipes, but the SPG mod will attempt to balance where the packs are unlocked and which technologies they get added to as an ingredient (for the randomizer side of it, so you don't get into an unwinnable scenario) and I'm not 100% sure which stage that happens in, if it's during data or data-final-fixes. But yes, I did also pull in a mod for wood generation, one of the greenhouse mods and a coal-to-wood one for emergencies.
@tangentfox4677
4 ай бұрын
..... I hate this (do it) it's evil (it's awesome in the truest sense of the word) please don't (please do it and more)
@Kingwut117
4 ай бұрын
pre-release factorio footage flashbanged me I can't believe I forgot about tiny turrets
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
what about the tiny 1:1 boilers and do you still remember their ratios?
@jasharin
4 ай бұрын
the wonderfully intuitive 1:14
@TheSpookiestSkeleton
4 ай бұрын
Man I'm drunk and should be going to sleep, you can't just enable my bad habits like this man
@tonyaltobello6885
4 ай бұрын
Just like me fr
@Mastercheap
4 ай бұрын
The micheal henddrick addiction Or maybe it’s just factorio addiction.
@alexlowe2054
4 ай бұрын
2:28:23 "I'm not building a diagonal base", he claims, while building a diagonal base. Perfection.
@BurnoutWW
4 ай бұрын
The obvious solution for having only 6 undamaged gunturrets really cracked me up!
@kajacx
4 ай бұрын
Imagine this with the mod that makes every science pack require all the previous science packs as an ingredient.
@canebro1
4 ай бұрын
Some of the later science packs produce many at once. Like the satellite pack is 200 per craft, so it wouldn't actually be that terrible in terms of cost. Logistically however...
@ShaunTheCrazyOne
4 ай бұрын
I cannot believe Michael is so averse to sushi that he choose to build this lab monstrosity instead of just making a single sushi belt.
@lis6502
4 ай бұрын
instead of Science per minute base's benchmark, now we introduce Minutes per science :D
@Mastercheap
4 ай бұрын
This reminds me of a tumblr post about science in medias aren’t physicists, biology, etc, ”they are just science guys ready do to science!”
@R.Daneel
4 ай бұрын
That "damage the rest of the turrets to save inventory" was brilliant. And thanks SO MUCH for editing the stream before posting. So few people take that (huge) effort and it makes so much difference! As I watch this, it's literally breath-taking. I foresee multiple blue belts feeding science packs in your future! If you were anybody else, I'd give you zero change. As it is - this is going to be AMAZING!
@canebro1
4 ай бұрын
For science pack 4, it needs so little steel, that I ended up bringing in iron and coal and just smelted the steel on site, it was just 1 or 2 stone furnaces worth.
@nico-ob6wj
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to edit all this :)
@ZealotOfSteal
4 ай бұрын
When I first saw a new upload from you I was a bit disappointed it's not a warptorio installment, but this is very fun as well.
@Superokiko
4 ай бұрын
32:38 I see slicedlime is also a fan of seeing the factory grow
@DanielNerd
4 ай бұрын
minecraft and factorio go hand in hand like literally, factorio was inspired by the minecraft modded community and now we have mc mods that were inspired by factorio
@OgrumXD
4 ай бұрын
This is a little inside intor my Futuer Run: - Deathworld - 36 new Sinence - Random Sience/Walkspeed/Recepies - Shatterd Lands - Diverse Ores - Recepies Recevlyer (Input becomes Output) This will be my personal hell 😅
@submachinegun5737
4 ай бұрын
Your personal hell might be a spellchecker
@Sinaeb
4 ай бұрын
don't forget dangeOREus for the slightly more sadism
@OgrumXD
4 ай бұрын
@@Sinaeb will consider it. Thx
@elpepe3923
4 ай бұрын
@DocJade this guy is our new common enemy 😬😬, not only gears, but copper wire and iron sticks in the busss!!! 😮😮
@runelt99
4 ай бұрын
I envy people getting straight mixed ore patches. Diagnal ones are a nightmare D:
@calvingarbacik272
4 ай бұрын
That steel smelter is beautiful, i love it
@Cory-Stewart-
3 ай бұрын
The underground trick works with a single underground, not just a pair. Reverse the direction of the single.
@CptTiki
3 ай бұрын
Dood, that laugh at the beginning… we know, and we understand exactly how you feel 😂
@hellboy19991
3 ай бұрын
2:31:14 you can put an output underground there so you wouldn't have had to switch the sides of the belt there. It even has a smaller footprint!
@coolersmoke
2 ай бұрын
Wait.. what?? How did I miss the start of this crazy new series a month ago?? Well that's the rest of my day completely filled up!
@alenonimo
4 ай бұрын
"I will not use bots to feed the labs because I believe we can solve anything while doing it mechanically." Proceeds to hand-feed everything. :P
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
Handfeeding has become a mechanical motion for me haha
@hexzyle
4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks Hendricks handfeeding is automation because Michael is a machine
@michaelhixson6939
4 ай бұрын
Started, will finish later. Looks to be a helluva good time.
@TurnipTheBee
4 ай бұрын
yeah, "oh my god" is appropriate for that NIGHTMARE.
@pulsefel9210
3 ай бұрын
i remember long ago getting blasted on reddit for stating diagonal belts were faster. they kept trying to say that the path doesnt change, so its not. but if you actually test it, it will show easily. a belt X long and X high will be slower as two straight paths than the same belts being put on a diagonal. the slight speed increase the curves have to keep things flowing right adds up FAST.
@GrimnirLaguz28
2 ай бұрын
2:21:00 - It looks like your undergrounds are turning iron ore into plates. So many crazy designs in this one video. I recently started playing Factorio and watching your vids made me realize that there are insane amounts of ways to approach a problem. Ever since, I have had way more fun and better success at building my base!
@TatsukiHashida
3 ай бұрын
Finally giving Michael motivation to actually automate something instead hand feeding everything
@ShMokou
4 ай бұрын
The real challenge is calling all new science packs by their names, not colors or numbers.
@hexzyle
4 ай бұрын
I was mad about the copper wire and iron sticks on the bus and I haven't played factorio in like 8 years and have never even made a bus
@Hedning1390
4 ай бұрын
Normally I would be against a "bus" but this may be a proper use case for it. Put everything on the bus, then you are free to find out what is needed for each. You'll always get some production even if you find out that ingredient x is a really hard bottleneck. The alternative, I figure, is to produce every science pack in its own chain from raw ore and the oil trio.
@Sinrise
4 ай бұрын
Damaging your own turrets so they stack is the most OCD you can get in Factorio, I think. I've done it for sure. Remember when they stacked according to how much damage they had?
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
oh god no yeah I do
@Kato0909
3 ай бұрын
Mike says "I should go sleep" at 2:23:45, stays up playing for an hour at minimum. Very familiar feeling
@hf6384
4 ай бұрын
Awesome! I loved this. You are a factorio wizard!
@big_emerald
4 ай бұрын
You do so many biter challenges I forget how fun it is to watch the logistics. You’re the world’s best spaghetti chef 👨🍳
@Sinrise
4 ай бұрын
1:54:23 You know you're addicted to Factorio when you start throwing around terms like, "let's do a line of inserters..."
@IngoGarza
3 ай бұрын
Loved it! Hyped for a part 2 !!
@davidlearner9662
4 ай бұрын
Cool chance to do a train based science delivery setup for at least 40 of the science.
@adambyte256
4 ай бұрын
I deeply hope that when it's time to expand beyond 20 science packs, you switch to cars on a sushi belt.
@MichaelHendriks
3 ай бұрын
Cars on belts actually sounds like a good solution for this mod!
@weavminas
Ай бұрын
I've been waiting to start this series, but I can't hold off anymore.
@Dj.Ladylox
4 ай бұрын
I totally forgot I subscribed to you the mythical upload hell yeah 👍👍
@zebrin
4 ай бұрын
while I will likely never play this, I am in awe of your patience and ability to keep all this shit straight, even with a recipe browser. I would need so many spreadsheets...
@canebro1
4 ай бұрын
This is a fun run. My solution for the science was to use splitter sushi to put 8 science packs on a single belt, and then running 6 belts along the labs.
@crazycarmelc
4 ай бұрын
This is way above what i can even consider, I haven't ever gotten oil and I have nobody to teach me
@facchi5385
4 ай бұрын
I Just dare you some months ago to make a base using just drones as soon as you get their, and dont use any belt, if you can make this i think it will be pretty funny
@karp_4902
4 ай бұрын
No way, i heard about this mod for the first time today, and planned on starting it when i wake up tomorrow. I dont know much about this mod, just that its supposed to be relatively the same costs resource wise, just spread across more science packs. Im planning on using filtered wagons for my lab setup with no daisy chaining labs(43 science packs being fed between labs sounds like a horrendous bottleneck)
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
Don't get your hopes up too much, this mod is significantly more expensive than vanilla. For starters, the vanilla science is not replaced... all of the extra science packs are costs on TOP of the vanilla costs, and some of the techs to unlock one of the 36 new science packs are not cheap! Initially I also thought that the lab chaining setup would not go beyond single digit SPM... but in the end it turned out to be sufficiently fast, surprisingly!
@canebro1
4 ай бұрын
It is definitely more expensive, but later sciences produce multiple bottles per craft. I'm only about 80% of the way through, but I would estimate 4-5x the resource cost of vanilla. Personally I played on peaceful but otherwise default settings, and it is super fun.
@karp_4902
4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks My mistake, i read somewhere that some recipes where made cheaper to compensate, like blue/red chips costing significantly less green chips. Guess that info was wrong. Still looking forward to giving this a go
@Cherryflavoredgrape
4 ай бұрын
I'm not a factorio player so correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you feed science into the labs from multiple sides with belts pointed into the labs, then daisy-chain it into the other labs? I know throughput would likely be an issue, but I imagine that's probably going to be the case with this mod in general. I'm picturing the belts all pointed towards the lab using undergrounds so you can have a red belt and yellow belt on all three spots on any side of the lab with 6 long inserters. That would give you 12 items per side. Here's a layout of what I pictured in my head. R = Red underground. Y = Yellow underground. L = Long inserter. X = the lab. And then on the bottom you'd have one leftover space to pull the science out of the lab and feed it into the next lab. And then from there it would just be chaining from lab to lab. (Hopefully the formatting on the comment on different screens doesn't turn this into gibberish.) ___________ RRR_________ ___________ YYY_________ ___________ YYY_________ ___________ RRR_________ ___________ LLL_________ ___________ LLL_________ RYYRLL|XXX|LLRYYR RYYRLL|XXX|LLRYYR RYYRLL|XXX|LLRYYR ___________ LLL_________ ___________ LLL_________ ___________ RR__________ ___________ YY__________ ___________ YY__________ ___________ RR__________
@MichaelHendriks
3 ай бұрын
That's a pretty decent setup for somewhone who doesn't play the game! For an early game, hand built setup that gets a bit out of hand though (cost, space and ease of build-wise), as you need to distribute and combine the science on a set of belts for each individual lab
@Cherryflavoredgrape
3 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks I think you'd technically be able to have one space free on one side of the lab (because each space is grabbing from two belts, so 4 items per space. So you'd only need 11 of the 12 available spaces around the lab to pull in the 43 different science packs) to be able to user inserters to pull from that main lab into other labs, but you'd have to do it at the corner or something. Plus feeding the whole chain of labs off of one or two inserters pulling from the first lab would probably be a throughput nightmare with that many different items haha.
@fractalgem
3 ай бұрын
I think tgat might be more science packs than space exploration XD
@tylerholden1548
4 ай бұрын
Is something off with the microphone in this video? EDIT: Nvm it was just the intro narration, rest of the video is fine!
@Sousa22ko
4 ай бұрын
I just started a new k2se playthough and i'm loving the hand-feed mall technique. Is good to skip the starter (main bus) base direct to city block base. i'm not a main bus enjoyer, too much space planning for me.
@ScorpiusZA.
4 ай бұрын
Sad there is no next Warptorio episode. But this is also good.
@kittyshippercavegirl
4 ай бұрын
3 hours of SCIENCE!!!!!!
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
SCIENCE!!!!
@Zapdos0145
4 ай бұрын
doc jade is having a field day
@achillesa5894
4 ай бұрын
...This actually looks fun, what is wrong with me
@noobartz0890
4 ай бұрын
after playing with randomizer mod this normality looks so weird
@BlackTempleGaurdian
4 ай бұрын
You can feed 8 lanes into a wagon that then feeds labs for 16 sciences, but I'm not sure you can feed more than that by belt without sushi.
@BlackTempleGaurdian
4 ай бұрын
Actually no, you could run an additional two belts alongside the wagons for 20 sciences - but that's still insufficient.
@BlackTempleGaurdian
4 ай бұрын
Oh wait, you can double that by loading from two sides
@BlackTempleGaurdian
4 ай бұрын
Still, entirely theoretical since in practice you could just supply the labs by train rather than belt.
@kitaster11037
4 ай бұрын
This is a great style of content to have. It's nothing like the scripted stuff, obviously, but the vibes are immaculate. If you pinballed between both in order to keep a healthy life/work balance and money in your pocket, no complaints.
@TatsukiHashida
3 ай бұрын
1:04:00 is when he finishes looking at the science packs
@Bandit2033
4 ай бұрын
I'm only 14 mins in. So forgive me if its the case later. But i feel like sushi belt (or requester chests w/ bots) would be your best bet for so many science packs. . The one thing i like to add when i say that, is most people think sushi as "read the entire belt, add as neccessary". But I like balancer sushi, so the idea of a 43 to 1 balancer feeding a row of labs sounds entertaining.
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
I considered mechanical sushi, but it requires a looped belt for each science pack to avoid getting deadlocked
@Ails1234
4 ай бұрын
1:00:25 that's why they call you the "engine"er
@BlackTempleGaurdian
4 ай бұрын
Oh boy, three hours of enjoyment
@Dosmans
4 ай бұрын
When I hear how you talking about "putting down minors", I know there is new interesting episode to watch :)
@starort1078
4 ай бұрын
Love your voice and how you do your videos
@Thaumogenesis
4 ай бұрын
Now do it with 10 times science cost.
@gregg8721
4 ай бұрын
its midnight but i guess ill stay up for another three hours
@happyhafer1403
4 ай бұрын
the message at around 55:00 'i will explore all science packs. skip ahead to XX:XX' i guess you missed that one while editing 😄
@ShMokou
4 ай бұрын
Go do the ultimate deathworld SCIENCE GALORE... NEXT TIME.
@rubyblack7240
4 ай бұрын
ook goedemorgen ahhahaha
@JakeusMeakus
4 ай бұрын
A 3 Hour Michael Hendricks vid? :O You spoil us with this gift :P
@atomspalter2090
4 ай бұрын
3 hours of gameplay. Count me in!
@jblmi1355
4 ай бұрын
yes
@qwe-de7xd
4 ай бұрын
55:02 Wasn't planning on skipping, but just FYI, I think you forgot to replace XX:XX with actual numbers
@bar_jumper1312
3 ай бұрын
Raw sca sca sca science🎉
@ifyoudomindustry0-0-rt3cs
3 ай бұрын
YOU SHOULD DO THIS WITH 100x PRICES deathworld so ez i promise
@The40k4kProject
4 ай бұрын
This looks pog
@cryochick9044
4 ай бұрын
You should do the randomizer with this mod
@DanielNerd
4 ай бұрын
55:03 we gonna ignore the fact that he forgot to write the timestamp? well... i imagine if someone is going to watch a 3 hours video they ain't going to skip ahead a lot lol
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
there's chapters instead, forgot about the placeholder lol
@snowboardinginmy40s
4 ай бұрын
Great a new mod. How about next time to try the Nullius mod?
@oresthopiak8609
4 ай бұрын
Will VODs of this be uploaded to KZitem? I can't find the beginning of this new series on Twitch, and I really like watching long VODs by you, as your streams are really fun and I don't always have a chance to see them live
@Bandit2033
4 ай бұрын
If it does, it'll probably get uploaded to his MichaelHendriksLIVE account
@oresthopiak8609
4 ай бұрын
@@Bandit2033 yes, I'm already watching the VOD channel in parallel, but a lot of the series are not uploaded there yet, unfortunately
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
The just finished biters for resources streams will be released on the 2nd channel first, since I don't want to be uploading the same playthrough to both channels simultaneously.
@oresthopiak8609
4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks is there any reason to not upload VODs in parallel? I am not as aware about youtube things, so I am curious. Because on twitch you do different playthroughs in parallel, so I don't know if it is okay to upload vods in parallel too
@Bloodlyshiva
4 ай бұрын
So, 'pointless bloat' the mod?
@NikopolAU
4 ай бұрын
1k spm base, or no balls :)
@karp_4902
4 ай бұрын
So i went to the twitch vods for a sneak peek at part 2, but the vods dont go back that far :/ Ill just have to watch the 10k spm series in the meantime, how are you gonna handle that with the upcoming space age update?
@randombrit13
2 ай бұрын
how is it that you add only one magazine to the turrets at a time?
@MichaelHendriks
2 ай бұрын
Z key
@randombrit13
2 ай бұрын
@MichaelHendriks thank you immensely, I tried Google searching for this yesterday, and I just didn't get results.
@c-pen7029
3 ай бұрын
can you play the ultracube mod?
@spenceabeen
4 ай бұрын
Gonk :]
@Sousa22ko
4 ай бұрын
Man i have a dummy question... how you place ghost of itens that you currently don't have in your inventory (without ctrl c)? i read in reddit that is an option in interface configs but it didn't worked for me. i select the item in my shortcut bar slot but i can't click on it.
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
5th option from the bottom lower left corner in interface options, "pick ghost item if no items are available"
@Sousa22ko
4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks maybe i'm blind lol thanks.
@carl-marvin
4 ай бұрын
I think I'm in the minority, but I hoped for uncut raw footage on youtube. Somehow longer is more relaxing; the music, sounds, speech is just way more natural when it's at it's original pace and uninterrupted by cut-outs. So bye yt hello twitch! ;)
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
I upload uncut streams to my 2nd channel!
@carl-marvin
4 ай бұрын
Ah, that's where I found you. Really enjoyed the Nuclear Warptorio Series, but was confused where I could find the other twitch series (36 science packs / no miner). sadly the 36 sp start is no longer on twitch, but also starting midway is fun. If I only had ad-free twitch like I have with KZitem Premium.. ;)
@basildaoust2821
3 ай бұрын
36 + 6 = 42 but the build screen you showed up had like 86 science I do not understand I hope you can clear this up for me.
@MichaelHendriks
3 ай бұрын
36+7 =43, start screen shows 1 and 1k produced for each so 43x2=86
@Gaiwwie
3 ай бұрын
jesus christ imagine there are thousands or even millions of science packs, and your life is wasted but someone else will continue your work, better have more players for that
@OtlichnikTop
4 ай бұрын
Why does this video last 2:59:59 and not 3 hours? P.S. You are master spagetti!
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
Same reason why they price stuff at $2.99... I wanted the video to look "less long" at first glance haha. But I thought I failed, as to me (on pc) it shows 3:00:00!
@circuitgamer7759
4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks It shows 3:00:00 to me on the thumbnail, but 2:59:59 after I open it. So precisely the opposite of what you were hoping for :)
@MichaelHendriks
3 ай бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!
@271kochu
4 ай бұрын
> 55:03 > Skip ahead to XX:XX Oh, you.
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
oops, placeholder... Use the chapters instead ;)
@Shamefulbird
4 ай бұрын
Yeah rainbow science
@mx2000
4 ай бұрын
It bothers me on a personal level that you are putting the science on both sides of the belt to feed them to one side of the belt right after 😉
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
Once Upon A Time, each science pack shall rule it's own belt!
@Cryten0
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate your effort. But 3 hours is hard to watch.
@MichaelHendriks
4 ай бұрын
watch the 30 minute edit tomorrow instead!
@Cryten0
4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelHendriks Very generous of you sir. Thank you.
@le3lux
4 ай бұрын
For me there was way to much uninteresting stuff you showed like 10min where u visualized the science recipes or build you labs. 1,5h is the max for me
@MichaelHendriks
3 ай бұрын
I understand this extended cut with an in depth look is not for everyone, that's why there's also a normal 30 minute cut
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