Have we tried sharpening a stone yet?I bet you would be amazed with how sharp obsidian can get and other stones
@pdxnate3314
2 жыл бұрын
You dont need to sharpen obsidian. It's already as sharp as a scalpel when flaked in to pieces.
@lowlandgorrlia3p942
2 жыл бұрын
@OPEN PAGE,,,,,, 👇😍 wtf
@Bamm_Bamm420
2 жыл бұрын
@@pdxnate3314 It’s actually sharper then a razor blade, some surgeons actual prefer obsidian blades over scalpels because how much more sharper and precise it is than a scalpel
@darrelladams4188
2 жыл бұрын
Tyler has wet stones. Check in the library to see if agree with his sharpening stones
@RinIzanami
2 жыл бұрын
I use my great grandfathers sharpening stone for my kitchen knifes, as long as you know how to do it right your knife will be really sharp
@dropdoc4927
2 жыл бұрын
I have used this sharpener with great results in the low 100's. Pay attention to the burr and use the lightest pressure on the final stones but triple the passes. The steel of the knife also makes a difference.
@seanmills7255
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Those knives he is using are cheap n made from very cheap steel thats not gonna sharpen to a super fine edge. I wouldn't use that 1000 dollar tool on cheap blades. The 4dollar one is better suited to keeping that cheap steel usable. Now if u got some good Damascus kitchen blades or carry blades then yeah id use the better tool on them.
@seanmills7255
2 жыл бұрын
But that 1000 dollar tool is a sharpener. You still need to hone the edge after to get a razor fine edge.
@GlorifiedGremlin
2 жыл бұрын
There never WAS a burr lol he was going back and fourth instead of one side at a time
@dropdoc4927
2 жыл бұрын
@@GlorifiedGremlin there is generally a burr created no matter what procedure is used. This method minimizes it but he didnt reduce pressure at the end to effectively polish it off. I have seen a burr produced with this setup that is so thin it will alternate the side it lays on after each stroke. This is when the micro-burr gets finished off with a strop.
@timothyhall963
2 жыл бұрын
You were doing it wrong you have to sharpen 1 side at a time until you get a burr on the opposite side then do it to the other side until there is a burr on the opposite side then gently remove that burr then progress to the next grit and repeat. I sharpen my broadheads for hunting by hand same procedure as above and I promise you my blades would hit 100 to 150 on that scale try it and see. Use a post it paper to test for burr.
@lordcrayzar
2 жыл бұрын
@@litigioussociety4249 a thousand dollar knife sharpener is for professionals who know what they are doing, not the average person.
@t_c5266
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordcrayzar professionals who know what they are doing use stones.
@NickJayy212
2 жыл бұрын
@Extremos the wicked edge is not designed to be a hobbyist's system. These are meant for people that either sharpen for a living, or depend on sharp knives day in and out.
@ThornyPickled
2 жыл бұрын
@@litigioussociety4249 that is a subjective perspective. Adding more buttons to an airplane cabin usually costs a lot more money, doesn't make it any easier. Expresso makers cost a lot because of the quality they give you not because of your ability to use them. Automatic cars are easier to use these days you could argue, but a mechanic would tell you they are much harder to maintain and repair.
@KryptoKn8
2 жыл бұрын
@@t_c5266 exactly my thoughts lmao
@scottedwards9626
Жыл бұрын
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm kzitem.infoUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
@ZevVeli
2 жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head with your final thoughts. The $1000 knife sharpener is definitely more aimed at specialists who have to sharpen a wide variety of blades and tools that may need fine adjustments to their angles. Additionally, it's been a while since I took inorganic chemistry, but IIRC there is a limit to how sharp you can make a blade based on its carbon content and I think that those particular blades aren't the highest quality in terms of edge retention.
@NOREENULR50BMG
2 жыл бұрын
I've put crazy edges on super cheap knives, they'll take an edge, but wont hold one. Almost any basic blade can take a mirror edge that'll show crazy results his knife sharpness tester, but they wont stay sharp with use. Getting a blade thats 55+HRC and it'll retain the edge much longer.
@ZevVeli
2 жыл бұрын
@@NOREENULR50BMG oh yeah. I remember once at a camp out my SPL sharpened a butter knife he found in the woods to razor sharpness
@paulrawlinson8653
2 жыл бұрын
Except, due to the design, the expensive knife sharpener doesn't put a consistent angle on the blade.
@ExarchGaming
2 жыл бұрын
He also still wasn't using it right in the end. which is why he got the result he did.
@NOREENULR50BMG
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulrawlinson8653 there's an adjustment to tighten the jaws, user error, not design flaw.
@kfer9500
2 жыл бұрын
Ceramic rods like in the $4 knife sharpener commonly vary from between 1,000 grit to 4,000 grit. Also, when you sharpen a knife it creates micro burrs that are harder to see and feel. That's why most people going for a razor edge finish the blade with a leather strop and some stropping/buffing compound. From my experience a good thorough stropping can take a knife from a "decent" cut through paper, to being shaving sharp on its own. If you get a strop, make sure you get one with a rougher almost "furry" (I guess) feeling to it on one side and then a smooth firm leather on the other.
@gwc_garage
2 жыл бұрын
When I began sharpening by hand I knew nothing but i still new that leather was a really great finisher and would use it without even realizing that was a normal thing that professionals did
@kfer9500
2 жыл бұрын
@@gwc_garage Sounds like you were farther ahead than you thought! When I first started I honestly had no idea, however even the cheapest of strops have given me great results. Even cheaper vegan leather has done the job lol.
@gwc_garage
2 жыл бұрын
@@kfer9500 yeah when I started I had one stone that I didnt know the grit of different sand papers and a file(only used for larger blades like machetes or really really dull knives) and a small strip of leather.
@massrdmdoer7348
2 жыл бұрын
yes
@Ujiyo
2 жыл бұрын
If you're in a pinch and need to realign just your cutting edge, you can use a leather belt. It'll do the trick. You can also in an emergency use window glass to put a crude edge on a knife. Glass is harder than steel.
@ytrfhytrrgjnbcf6840
2 жыл бұрын
Your content has come so far. Still remember watching the flext tape strength and flex seal videos. Keep up the good work bro
@EQINOX187
2 жыл бұрын
You need to strop the blade as well to get the best from it to as the act of sharpening the blade creates a burr that degraded the final finish, with the cheap tool the burr is forced to be in the center and the ceramic helps to lessen the burr, on the $1000 kit when you sharpen it down to a fine edge you end up pushing the burr back and forth until it ends up on one of the sides, when you used a sharpening tool like the $1000 it is essential that you strop the blade to remove / align the burr
@inibrius5380
2 жыл бұрын
they make a strop and their own stropping compound as part of this kit, he jsut didn't get it.
@bobbygetsbanned6049
2 жыл бұрын
@@inibrius5380 For 1000 freakin dollars it should be INCLUDED in the kit, it's not his fault their cheap asses didn't even include everything you need to sharpen the knife. They decided to splurge and that 100% unnecessary Pelican case instead, shows how stupid they are.
@inibrius5380
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 i dunno if it's stupid or if they just understand the kind of person that's dropping a grand on a sharpening kit...it's either an 'avid home user' that has more money than sense or a professional knife sharpener that wants to pick and choose what additional stuff they get. Check out the Project Farm knife sharpener review, he's a lot more detailed about why this isn't worth the $$.
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
You don't NEED to strop. If you sharpen properly there will be no burr. Strops aren't needed if you know how to sharpen, which you clearly don't.
@inibrius5380
2 жыл бұрын
@@autumn5592 Take a blade that you've 'properly sharpened'. test it's sharpness using one of the tools shown in the video. Then strop it and test it again. Then tell me it's not necessary. Even with a high-grit sharpening stone (10k+) you're not getting a perfectly smooth blade. A strop works to polish and align a blade after sharpening to get rid of any micro-imperfections for the best possible blade.
@nolans3026
2 жыл бұрын
the fact a $1000 sharpener isn't automated blows my mind
@CemRakipsiz
5 ай бұрын
auto sharpening < hand sharpening
@epicdillweed
2 жыл бұрын
Turned down the volume as soon as I saw that cinder block. Love these videos. This is probably my favorite KZitem channel along with project farm. Thanks for taking your time to upload these.
@Nirrrina
2 жыл бұрын
I did too & I'm not even a big fan of knives.
@brianm6117
2 жыл бұрын
As he started the cinder block I thought to myself, he HAS to use ear plugs when does that, doesn't he?
@40SnWfan
Жыл бұрын
I 3d printed an Apex type knife sharpener. $4 in plastic, 2 8mm rods, a few bearings. Then I bought diamond stones that went up to 3,000 from amazon for $40. The stones had a 400, 500, and 600. I took the 500 and glued leather to it with Shoe Goo and clamped it between two pieces of steel to ensure it's flat and even. Fun project. After stopping I can hold a sheet of paper and with the middle of the edge cut into the flat of the page at about a 25° angle. I wish I could test it on a tester like yours. Just a cheap D2 knife.
@ohioknifelover
2 жыл бұрын
I use the KME System and it's about $300 and I get results just as good as the Wicked Edge. Just my experience though. I highly recommend when you're using the Wicked Edge to take your time on the lowest grit before jumping to the next one. You can take a piece of paper while it's still in the base and drag it across the edge to see which spot needs more work. I'm not going to say you used it incorrectly because you used it right. It just takes more experience with it Tyler! I've gotten edges on my Lansky system the got a 50 on the Bess Tester
@LargeNuts
2 жыл бұрын
I get just as good results with my 60 dollar Lanksy system haha. But the wicked edge is easier to use and will prob last longer.
@ohioknifelover
2 жыл бұрын
@@LargeNuts Same! I love the Lansky and I believe I have a video about what all I have put into that system so far
@DeWin157
2 жыл бұрын
I do the paper drag while still in the clamp myself, it helps tremendously to always find that one trouble spot every knife seems to have.
@Mister_Ess
2 жыл бұрын
I love my lansky and get similar results.
@ricshome1
Жыл бұрын
I also have the KDE and I finish off with leather strop with very good results
@alexlumley7777
2 жыл бұрын
Use a strop it will get rid of the burr on the knifes making the test more accurate
@bobbygetsbanned6049
2 жыл бұрын
It won't make it more accurate since neither included a strop. Adding additional sharpening accessories to the sharpening kit makes exactly zero kit. Hell add a blade smith to the kit to get the most accurate results while you're at it.
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to strop, you can remove the burr by sharpening properly.
@imcrummy6114
2 жыл бұрын
@@autumn5592 yes if you move up in grits and get to polishing you really don’t need to stop but he didn’t do that he used a coarse stone only so you def need to strop
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
@@imcrummy6114 No you don't. You can easily deburr on a 400-800 grit stone. (Takes a bit longer to learn the control, but in a system, takes all the skill out of it.)
@TheDarinseng
2 жыл бұрын
Simply didn't establish the initial bur needed to make sure the apex of the edge was fully defined. I myself only do my first 2 grits where I do a single side until I develop a bur then switch sides checking for the same bur followed by about a couple dozen alternating strokes. After those initial 2 grits, I simply alternate all remaining stones grits as I am confident that the apex edge is already achieved. Like others have said, ~150 on the tester is my norm at 100grit or so. I have much finer grits and strops and most of my personal knives and a select few friends, I normally shoot for 75-90 or so on my test results. I have some super steel EDC's that have 14degree edges that test in at 45-65. When I first started I made that same mistake of not getting a proper bur where my test results would be in the 300 range. Immediately after I realized it I went back, got the burs, then finished in the ~100 range. Its a huge difference. My guess is the second attempt Tyler made just got it closer to a bur but still missed it by a bit thus it improved but was not a spectacular result.
@bullridermusic2054
11 ай бұрын
YESSS!!!!! finally, not an idiot on here. This guy should not be doing these tests.
@jamesstewart9970
Жыл бұрын
The diamond stones have to be broken in on the wicked edge, you’ve also got to check for burr development, it’s a learning curve but it can get down to the 130 range with just the 1000 grit stones if you are patient enough.
@natethegreat3194
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone go get a manscape razor So we can support Tyler’s poor financial decisions
@SnipeCellyBoys
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve bought man scape products in there absolutely terrible! You can I get a close shave with them and they also nick your skin still! Don’t ever buy their products!
@curbotize
2 жыл бұрын
Every single electric razor I've owned, do NOT feel nice in the scrotal region. Not worth the pain.
@gwc_garage
2 жыл бұрын
I went ahead and ordered one just cause I needed a new trimmer and figured I'd check it out and support Tyler at the same time
@gwc_garage
2 жыл бұрын
@@curbotize you just got sensitive balls mate I've always used an electric trimmer for that area works better than a regular razor
@curbotize
2 жыл бұрын
@@gwc_garage I mean that is plausible. The razor just takes so much time and patience. (also been there done that) if you catch my drift.
@emoose92
Жыл бұрын
You need to “break in” a wicked edge. The adhesion process leaves excess grit on each plate. The excess grit makes the rating lower than marked until broken in. Your 1000 grit stone unbroken in is probably closer to a 500. Sharpen 20 knives and then re-test.
@PSNDeezNutzDrill
2 жыл бұрын
I know there are several ways to improve the “sharpness’s” of a blade for sure. However what I think even one is forgetting is that he is comparing what’s in the box of a $4 dollar sharpener, vs a $1000 dollar sharpener. If you need something/anything else to get a good edge the $1000 dollar sharpener should include it. That’s it. He’s comparing the 2 in there ability to sharpen with what you get. Great video.
@flatfingertuning727
2 жыл бұрын
Many tasks require multiple tools to accomplish effectively, and higher-end tools are often sold "a la carte". Many $150 guitars come with straps, but many $5000 guitars don't, since it's much easier for a manufacturer to include a strap that would satisfy people buying a $150 guitar than one that would satisfy people buying a $5000 guitar.
@smore94
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, $1000 for a knife sharpener is insane.
@DoraTheMFDestroya
2 жыл бұрын
@@smore94 then you must never work in a trade. A single mill machine in our shops can run upwards of 80k. That's for one of the smaller precision kits as well. If you KNOW what you're doing, and you know HOW to do it, then you get tools to cover every need.
@smore94
2 жыл бұрын
@@DoraTheMFDestroya Comparably, what I'm telling you is that if I buy a car for $50k the thing better come with wheels and tires, specially in today's economy. People think too much of their products, stuff is ridiculous. I'd rather "get by" with a few polishing and sharpening stones than buy either one. Yes, I've worked trades. I spent 20 years of my life on our farm. We just didn't waste money.
@JohnFleshman
2 жыл бұрын
Your desharpener AKA the cinderblock hurts my soul as a hobby knife maker. love these videos. I have an older model wicked edge with just 2 of the courser stone sets and get knives sharper than any other system Ive used. I need to get the really fine set some day. Stropping the blade after the sharpening is done will make it much better. .
@Nirrrina
2 жыл бұрын
For a grand you'd think that it would include a good strop & instructions on how to use it properly.
@Vistal11
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nirrrina it has instructions. But Tyler never reads them.
@davidblalock9945
2 жыл бұрын
First he talks about the “cringe worthy task of dulling the knives” and then starts talking about Manscaped. Had me scared there for a second…
@bluej511
2 жыл бұрын
Use a strop, burr is still on both knives.
@Chromie21
2 жыл бұрын
i was gonna say
@dennisgibsonii6316
2 жыл бұрын
Ya you gotta finish with some leather to align the burrs. Heck I use my leather belt or the case of the knife when I finish my knives
@TheJAM_Sr
2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna suggest the same thing.
@bluej511
2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisgibsonii6316 with some compound for extra shine lol.
@QualityCarp
2 жыл бұрын
I always see someone do this, but what does it actually do, i though only polishing.
@robohippy
2 жыл бұрын
Most of my woodshop is dedicated to my wood lathes. We seldom sharpen past 1000 grit for the skew chisel. Bowl gouges generally in the 180 to 600 grit range. A 1000 grit stone still leaves a noticeable burr on it, which has to be honed off on a leather wheel with polishing compound. If you don't hone that burr off, the skew chisel will cut fine in one direction, but not in the other. Don't understand why there are not diamond stones available in grits over 1000 grit. With abrasives/sand paper, the grits are done by electrostatic charges to pick up the grit, which is far better than sifting. Take your $1000 sharpened blade and a leather strop to remove the burr, and it will match the other cheap one. I would guess that the burr is pretty much gone with a 6000 to 8000 grit hone/strop. Carvers have multiple honing/stropping compounds to get even the tiny bit of a burr off.
@LittleguyBigReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Man that 1,000 knife sharpener looks beefy as hell 🤙
@Justme-jt1ef
2 жыл бұрын
@OPEN PAGE,,,,,, 👇😍 what that gotta do with anything are you that desperate n life??
@blockofcheeze151
2 жыл бұрын
@@Justme-jt1ef it's a bot with a virus
@Justme-jt1ef
2 жыл бұрын
@@blockofcheeze151 it’s annoying
@savage101.
2 жыл бұрын
What company would put out a $1000 sharpening system and not include leather strop attachments? They probably make them and charge an extra $100 for them. I can get a razor sharp finish with a $10 stone and my belt lol.
@bobbygetsbanned6049
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, $1000 and a stop isn't even included so they can charge an extra $100 bucks for the fools stupid enough to waste even more money on a fancy Lansky.
@MladenMijatov
2 жыл бұрын
There are sharpening systems similar to that one in the range of 250$ which are much much sturdier and you get more stones. It's just a marketing piece where people think more expensive means better when in reality for that much money you could get a number of Shapton glass stones and have a razor worthy edge.
@Chromie21
2 жыл бұрын
you diidnt use a strop for both of the knives. they need to have the extra burrs cleared for them to have any good results
@bobbygetsbanned6049
2 жыл бұрын
Then the sharpening kits should include strops.
@Chromie21
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 they sharpen the knife, it’s still sharp but it’s way sharper with the strop, literally just use ur leather belt
@bobbygetsbanned6049
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chromie21 It's comparing the sharpeners, not the sharpeners plus other accessories you already have.
@Chromie21
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 exactly but to sharpen any knife really sharp and make the sharpener shine you need a strop
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to strop, deburr on the stones.
@yogi_minnis
2 жыл бұрын
Here is the thing being a chef myself and have a huge love for knifes from cooking knifes to every day carry .. even though yes you used a $1000 sharpener you still need to use a honing steel to finish the fine tuming of the blades edge . I have used sharpeners that are upwards of $10,000 and I still at the end had to use a honing steel to get the fully desired edge . I have also used a $2 sharpener and gotten close results . Just one takes less time than the other to do . The only sure true way to get the sharpest edge without using a honing steelcis to use a grit that is so fine upwards of 10,000 grit wet paper also known as micro mesh or even a ceramic stone to hone it down to perfection . You can use the bottom of a ceramic coffee mug or even a bowl or plate with a lip on it . Or you can even use the ceramics off a spark plug as well or even use the back of another knife as well .
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
You literally have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
@thatstupidbunnysuit2648
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of knife experts, and people who have this much interest in knives is surprising to me.
@jonanderson5137
2 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty big community. Seeing a dumb ass post time wasting garbage like this is great for comments.
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same for any hobby.
@false-set
2 жыл бұрын
It's like buying a really nice violin then playing Metallica using a bread clip as a plectrum.
@Ardeact
2 жыл бұрын
The price of the sharpener doesn't matter, rather the technique is most important. A professional with a 50 dollar whetstone set can easily make shaving sharp.
@eatingtomatoswhy3510
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do this again but remove the burr please?? Also instead of doing one side after the other in succession try sharpening one side completely then the other, after removing the burr.
@Serron2k9
2 жыл бұрын
$1000 knife sharpener requires some DLC for the full effect... BTW, I heard that the Lanskey sharpener is a very good sharpener.
@shifteey
2 жыл бұрын
this just goes to show it doesn't matter how much you spend on a sharpening system if you don't even know the fundementals of creating a bur.
@paulrawlinson8653
2 жыл бұрын
With the stone running along the blade you don't need to create a bur, nor are you particularly likely to. A burr is not essential to sharpening a blade, but when your sharpening motion is perpendicular to the blade you are highly likely to create a burr. Very hard steels are less likely to form a burr, but will still become super sharp
@suckitrebels6675
2 жыл бұрын
Ceramic help makes the blade edges smoother by knocking down the burs while also being a high grit sandpaper more or less. Also can you do a work sharp comparison i have one of them that sharpens my knives really well
@ajflament8012
2 жыл бұрын
idk that $1000 sharpener took the knife back to near "factory" sharpness started at 400 before duliing it, then finished at 430 after sharpening it
@jonanderson5137
2 жыл бұрын
Haha! You don't get tools like this to get near factory. You get this to make factory edges look like shit.
@mattthemouse1
Жыл бұрын
I keep a work sharp in my kitchen drawer. The edge honer (ceramic) can make keeping your cheap or had me down knives cutting like a much more expensive knife. Best investment I ever made.
@rolar321
2 жыл бұрын
The knife sharpener for $ 4 gives the knife a raw edge, a sharpness that quickly disappears. The one for $ 1000 gives a more durable edge. But you made a mistake, you have to finish grinding on one side before grinding the other side. That is, you should not grind right, left, right left ...
@vtxdaryl
Жыл бұрын
I looked at this a few years ago, price was no object, but also reviewed the TSPROF K03 Master Kit. I ended up going with the TSPROF KO3. It came with more Diamond Bit stones. Remember, you are buying two stones for the Wicked Edge for each stone for the KO3. I now have added up to 60,000 grit Micron film to get a mirror finish on my blades. Buy the TSPROF KO3 or look at their cheaper sharpening systems for less money but same stones. Very honest review.
@kenlyons848
2 жыл бұрын
We used to use the ceramic tubes used in 'Knob and Tube' wire insulators for final sharpening .
@WilhelmWilder
2 жыл бұрын
Cue all the people saying "you still didn't do it right!"
@theripper501_9
2 жыл бұрын
He literally said to tell him what he did wrong
@evaneasterwood9896
2 жыл бұрын
But. He did lmao. We're all human though. Can't expect Tyler to know everything. Unless it's about flex tape/glue. Lol. Knife sharpening is a long process with many steps aside from what he has done here.
@codyclem7928
2 жыл бұрын
@@evaneasterwood9896 it literally tells you exactly what to do...
@Mr.Belding
2 жыл бұрын
The comment section on this channel is getting quite toxic towards Tyler at times.
@WilhelmWilder
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Belding for REAL, its sad. He's such a nice person. I've talked to him personally many times. I feel like he doesn't give a shit though lol
@poptya
2 жыл бұрын
As the owner of the WickedEdge, I can attest that you can get MUCH better results with this with proper use. As others have pointed out, getting numbers around the 100g mark are very reasonably achievable with wicked edge. My main problem with this video, however, is that it doesnt address the number one problem with "draw-through"-style knife sharpeners, which is that they create a scratch pattern parallel with the knife edge, which will VERY easily round over and become damaged after very minor use. Any knife sharpener that can put a scratch pattern perpendicular to the blade instead will always achieve a better, long-lasting edge.
@Zachariahfml
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely user error. You need to strop both for starters and also the diamond stones on the wicked edge aren't broken in. Use a tool drawer liner and use that to lock the spine in solid in the vice to prevent movement. Also use a sharpie to verify you're properly apexing your edge. It's the user not the tool I have one and can guarantee you better results than this 😂
@xd-qi6ry
2 жыл бұрын
True but at this point i know its hard to not say anything and i feel the same way but its getting kinda toxic even though he says he doesnt care. Your 100% right they are quite simple rookie mistakes to make you would think after all these sharpening videos he would know what to do but you have to respect him for who he is
@Zachariahfml
2 жыл бұрын
@@xd-qi6ry I mean all he had to do was read the user manual. I lost respect for him when he started playing with high voltage like an idiot. He's going to get himself killed in the pursuit of views and I don't have respect for that 💯
@SoulDelSol
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's showing which is easier just out of the box for average person who doesn't know about this skill or read manuals. For those average people they'll fare better with cheap one because expensive one is too complicated for them.
@Zachariahfml
2 жыл бұрын
@@SoulDelSol 🤣 then that's user error not product flaw.
@DarrenMalin
2 жыл бұрын
my Grandfather showed me how to sharpen tools and knives using a glass plate and wet and dry papers of different grades. Does a great job :)
@jonanderson5137
2 жыл бұрын
This is called the "scary sharp method" for anyone interested.
@user-wr6wo6vr8r
2 жыл бұрын
Pleade do more knife sharpener videos, or any videos because I’m up to date on all your videos already and I need more.
@riggsvsoliver
2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to “rougher” grits below like 2000, you absolutely need to strop them or else you basically have a microscopic saw, that’s why they feel so insanely sharp but don’t actually preform how they feel. When you get to grits like 8000, stropping still will make your edge even sharper, but it’s so fine at that point that Most of those burrs aren’t even noticeable since they’re so insanely small
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what you're talking about.
@riggsvsoliver
2 жыл бұрын
@@autumn5592 explain?
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
@@riggsvsoliver You do NOT need to strop, even as low as 220 grit.
@riggsvsoliver
2 жыл бұрын
@@autumn5592 and where is this coming from / what’s the science behind it? Because at super coarse grits a wire burr forms on the edge. You need to either strop it or break it off, when you move on to the next grit you “strop” that wire off, and then start a finer wire and burr on the edge. As you get to finger grits, that wire and the burrs become much less tough and sometimes just pretty much disintegrate
@autumn5592
2 жыл бұрын
@@riggsvsoliver Admittedly, yes, anecdotal. But there is a science of sharp article that proves it can be done with a relatively low grit. (Guy looks at the edge under an electron microscope.) You can sharpen knives (or anything really), without forming burrs, it's all in the technique.
@abalrog42
2 жыл бұрын
For $1,000 I expect that knife to go through the paper like a surgical blade through Jello...
@jonanderson5137
2 жыл бұрын
Manual tool. Hand a guy a specialty hammer and a Walmart hammer and have him drive nails in a horizontal 2x4. Then give those hammers to a framer.
@TheGrizzlyHillbilly
2 жыл бұрын
I personally use a $15 WorkSharp Pocket Sharpener & a handmade Leather Strop with Super Fine stropping compound. So it starts on the Diamond Stone, then the Ceramic Rod & finished on the Leather Strop. I use that set up on every blade and follow the factory edge. The knives I use on the daily is a Victorinox Huntsman, Morakniv Eldris, Morakniv Kansbol, Morakniv Precision, Morakniv Spoon Knife. Other knives I own are Morakniv Filet, Leatherman Rev, Morakniv Rescue Knife, and a few cheapo back ups.
@Jiross
Жыл бұрын
The scale your using to test the sharpness has two types of ways to rig it up. One is premade wire clip things and the other is where you yourself wires it up, if you're using the later option your going to get obscure results cause you might set it up different everytime. DBK on KZitem talks about this on one of their videos and gives an example
@jrcartoonz2141
2 жыл бұрын
This is why all sharpening systems suck. All I need are a few whetstones which cost a fraction of the price and I could probably get the edge into the 70s. Granted it takes a long time and lots of patience to be able to master whetstone sharpening, but it by far the best way. I've been sharpening for a few years now and have had better results than any knife sharpening system i've seen on the internet. Not to mention, if you put an expensive hand crafted Japanese chef's knife in one of these, it will destroy it. Not to say that whetstone sharpening is the only way to get a knife sharp, but I have found that it is the most effective.
@OneBoomBox
2 жыл бұрын
The Wicked edge isn’t for the faint of heart but I think it’s worth it. I wouldn’t let any of my knives come close to that 4 dollar sharpener especially when u have a couple that cost more than the wicked edge.
@beardsntools
2 жыл бұрын
such poor results for the price
@n3glv
2 жыл бұрын
The motion you used results in a wire edge. Most instructions I have describe "trying to cut the top layer from the stone" Retry with a downward motion. Also there should not be a need to use each grit in number, the finest two should do it. I'm the son of a barber (for 60+ years) and great nephew of a master machinist. On top of that a friends dad is a chef. So I can sharpen a straight razor to a c.)old chisel with a chefs knife being the best working edge (longest lasting.)
@Fred_yolo86
2 жыл бұрын
Really need to wipe the blade off after each grit, this will affect the sharpness, should strop as well.
@rage03usa
2 жыл бұрын
Compare the worksharp precision adjust vs wicked edge. It's worksharps version of the wicked edge.
@whocares6698
2 жыл бұрын
The 430 or whatever is where that knife started at. It was always 200+ off from the other knife. SO maybe its the knife not the person who sharpened it trying to get out work on time on a friday LOL
@beardsntools
2 жыл бұрын
but they were both equally dull after he destroyed them, so it doesn't matter how sharp the factory was, both tools were used to try make the edge as sharp as possible, so the $1000 sharpener should had made the edge way sharper than the sharper knife from the factory
@whocares6698
2 жыл бұрын
No they werent equally dull. That one knife was still 200+ off from the other one. It never changed from being that 200+ off. Thats why I think it was more the knife. The one started at 230 grams, went to 1880. The second knife went from 400 to 2030 thats still off by the initial 200+ difference. So they were never EQUAL.
@kvernesdotten
6 ай бұрын
5:57 - Whether or not a blade can shave hair is not really a measurement of how sharp it is though, some of the sharpes knives I have right now does not shave without excessive force, while some that are alot less sharp by a good margin will do it. Of course it has to be reasonably sharp to begin with, but whether or not it bites into hair instead of gliding over it is mostly up to edge angle, scratch pattern, geometry, steel type and grit used. I personally find that knives sharpened on either really low grit or really high grit shaves easily, but medium grits do not.
@graemebarnes3445
2 жыл бұрын
@TylerTube sharpening the knife by pulling the stones away from the spine of the blade can create a flimsy edge as material is dragged towards the edge. Try sharpening by pushing the stones towards the spine, which stops burrs from protruding from the edge of the blade. Basically, sharpen TOWARD the spine, not toward the edge.
@JonathanDavidsonn
2 жыл бұрын
This kind of proves my thought on the angle the knife is sharpened matters more than the type of sharpener you use. Plus you don't need to get really fine. The coarser the grit the better grip your knife has to cut. But, yeah. It be like that.
@Febrezerr
2 жыл бұрын
Should have ran the 1000$ knife through the ceramic after you did it the 2nd time to see if there would be a difference
@twiggywolfedc
Жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s all in the technique. Was the angle matched? did a burr occur? That wicked edge system is amazing and if done right will produce hair splitting sharp knives. So will a $60 lansky. It’s all in the technique. Also whatever that fan, clutch, squeak is, it’s very distracting. You might consider a lav mic on your shirt or a boom mic closer to your mouth to eliminate the shop noise. Cheers brother 🤙🏻
@Legend-bf3gi
2 жыл бұрын
He gonna return that sharpener right after this vid lol
@01Joemama
2 жыл бұрын
my £150 chefs steel never let us down in catering! it was razor sharp set with a clever that would chopped through bone with zero splinters and a clean cut. and my carving knife was able to cut onions whilst not crying. great vid tho
@Condamine123456
2 жыл бұрын
I love his face when he says hopefully we get our moneys worth basically saying this better be fucking worth it 😂
@christophermillsii1254
2 жыл бұрын
On each knife you can only make it as sharp as the steel will let you i would like to see this again with some treated steel or maybe you could find a graph on what steel can be sharpest
@shaneh7519
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter if both knifes are the same
@matthewjbauer1990
2 жыл бұрын
@@shaneh7519 Yes, but there is always quality difference. Also, the knives he used doesn't adequately do justice to the $1000 knife sharpener.
@nickkuehnappel8528
2 жыл бұрын
Tyler should leave random things in beer for 30 days.
@darkobubonja
2 жыл бұрын
For a little bit more money, about 1200, you get a Tormek T8 whetstone sharpening and honing machine. Much more control and precision than the wicked edge type. I recommend...
@bethsantoro1963
2 жыл бұрын
Tyler just curious here but I have only seen a few sharpeners that do not require a wet stone. Could your expensive kit require a bit of water or oil? The cheaper one is one I know requires no type of lubrication. A chefs steel also requires no lubrication. This was just a thought since most stones do require a lubricant.
@gavinschoonbee6788
2 жыл бұрын
Tyler if you woukd pull top down instead of push up the stones. May you please try that please? I am a light enthusiast. But with my cheap little Lansky kot it make a hell of a difference.
@SkrixFox
2 жыл бұрын
The case that the Wicked Sharpe came in is worth $1k. Pretty sure it is a Pelican case just with the brand name covered
@Englandsbestlover
Жыл бұрын
The lower number in the grit means it will take off more steel. Higher grit is for polishing
@slackleashdogtraining3598
Жыл бұрын
The Worksharp “Ken Onion” handheld is easier to use than anything you’ve shown and I can make any knife able to shave my leg hair in VERY SHORT time with only a glance at the directions, for 1 min. It is so fast to learn it! Is versatile from pocket knife scaple shard to lawn mower blades and everything else; scissors, my camp axe fishhooks, multitools every one of my cutting instruments. Maybe review the Ken Onion?
@lukethesecond7
2 жыл бұрын
was gonna binge anime, watched a yt vid to pass time until i was ready. binged this entire channel
@markissboi3583
2 жыл бұрын
i use to use diff grade files / but now 2 grade stones cheap one does the trick People use the under side of coffee Mugs the ceramic /clay sharpens finer
@stephenlukovich9648
2 жыл бұрын
I promise that wicked edge is a amazing unit. User error. Must spend much more time on the stones and switch the birds from side to side.
@dhammer73
2 жыл бұрын
You should test the blades on the tester on 2 points to see if there are any differences between the front part of the blade and the back.
@spikeyG
Жыл бұрын
I use my Work sharp precision adjust with the standard stones 320, 600 and ceramic on my edc knives, after that i use a rough and fine strop and it becomes razor sharp, can't get a complete mirror edge but for €65 you won't hear me complain.
@isaacpaugh4626
2 жыл бұрын
You need to do the paper test after the scale test because paper dulls knifes very very quick
@chrisharris1522
2 жыл бұрын
you can get much finer stones for them also leather strops and polishing pastes, the supplied stones are just the starter kit that are good for everyday use
@Voytoy
Жыл бұрын
lol, yeah so another $400 later to still barely be sharper than a $4 sharpener?? LOL
@chrisharris1522
Жыл бұрын
@@Voytoy people who need actual sharp knives for their livelihood such as fishermen butchers chefs etc would have no issue with paying $400, it's all tax deductible?? LOL
@hungryhedgehog4201
Жыл бұрын
I'm just imagining the wicked edge being used by some like, knife pro. They get paradropped next to some resort in the alps, infiltrate the kitchen and sharpen all the knives to perfection. The day is saved. But honestly if'd get a knife sharpener for 1000$ I'd expect that thing to do it automatically. I think this is the second time I've seen someone use test whicked edge and they also didn't like it.
@christopherleubner6633
2 жыл бұрын
I use a carbide edge streightner for worst, a cheapo diamond rod sharpener for gross, and a lucolox ceramic tube from an old sodium vapor lamp for fine. The combination can sharpen all but zirconium carbide ceramic type knives. 🤓
@slumbynature4557
2 жыл бұрын
That little work sharp isn't bad for $4. I bought it a few months back for some old pocket knives that were obscenely dull to test out and wanted something cheap for my apparently new knife collecting hobby I've picked up from this channel and others. Definitely got it very sharp. I've gotten a better one since then. But if I remember correctly the packaging said it was for "outdoor survival yadda yadda" on it. I just threw it in my work bag now. I got the electric work sharp that Tyler used in his other videos and it I like it. For a beginner like me it'll give me some good practice and it was affordable.
@nikoraasu6929
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler, I often see some negativity in the comments under your vids, but just know, that we appreciate your videos and love the channel
@tinkeringeekkissimmeefl4495
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and saving me $1000. I was almost ready to plunge to buy the wicked edge.
@tacticalcenter8658
2 жыл бұрын
You get a wicked edge to sharpen good and expensive knives. Not trash knives. The edge pro is better more versatile sharpening system at a cheaper price. Though it does have a slightly higher learning curve. Also you need to remove the burr before testing on the BESS Also you need some technique to sharpen correctly. Also your knives are too soft. Actual professionals that use the wicked edge get far better results. Its not for the novice.
@JBPlaysGames1
2 жыл бұрын
Would have been funny to see you use the $4 sharpener on the $1000 knife one at the end, to see If you could get it sharper.
@asherrose6594
13 күн бұрын
I don't think you removed the burr on the wicked edge. You can get a hair whitening edge with a 600 grit edge but you have to remove the burr, I suggest using a strop
@stevecox3520
2 жыл бұрын
$4 knife sharpener and $1000 musical instrument judging by the way you played the wicked edge like a violin LMAO
@jerrycranmore1165
Жыл бұрын
When u used the wicked edge u should sharpen against the edge, when u do it like u did it makes a flap on the edge
@lemon8kid
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyler, When I was in 1st grade in 1960 my parent's could not afford glue for my school projects. My mom would mix flour in water and that was my glue. I wonder if you placed this glue between two wooden blocks if it eould hold up. Also the clamps you use, I wonder how many pounds they can hold to.
@MakBoyJOEQZ
2 жыл бұрын
Why are these knife videos so fun to watch???
@mecca8270
2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love watching your vids CAN you put the tiniest amount of effort and do some research on what grit on a stones means, how to de-bur a knife etc the videos would come out so much better
@sts.556
Жыл бұрын
most Kinchen electric can opener from Wal-Mart or dollar store has a knife sharpener on the back of it, lots of folks don't know that.
@chuckthetekkie
2 жыл бұрын
I always love hearing the crickets in your videos. I don't get to hear that anymore where I now live. Anyway, in the IT world we call this PEBCAK. Problem exists between chair and keyboard.
@houstonperez6400
2 жыл бұрын
He should do a video where he shoots at the best products he has to see if they'll still work
@bl3icom
2 жыл бұрын
I'm at 14:16, I think the way the stones were dragged away from the knife, rather han down into the blade might be an issue (lets see if i'm right)
@ericlouttit3370
2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 whetstone and they work great it works the same as the expensive one draw a burr then then alternate til its gone iv even taken 1/4 in chips out of the middle of the blade fixed garage sale knives that are now amazing watched a few videos not too hard maybe cost 200 total for setup
@VicSage1836
2 жыл бұрын
I have a nice little knife collection with some pretty high end steels. I think CPM-M4 is the hardest steel I have, and it takes the longest sharpen. The Ken Onion Worksharp powered sharpener cost me like $60, and gets it done in about 5 minutes. That includes setting up and putting away the machine. Then a few licks on the strop and it's shaving sharp. Those $4 sharpeners remove too much of the high end steel I pay for. Maybe on cheap kitchen knives I'd use it. But I'd much rather use the machine, or simply do it by hand.
@christopher20k
2 жыл бұрын
2 years ago was the last time I watched your videos when you still did the glue thing
@Jizzzmani
2 жыл бұрын
Funny that project Farm tested this wicked edge 2years ago, almost 3. And for 900$ back then he had full kit
@desterothfainsbarow7918
2 жыл бұрын
way to drive my anxiety by waving your hands around a sharpened knife
@matthewjbauer1990
2 жыл бұрын
If I had a need, I'd get a mini belt sander and also use it to sharpen knives. But... I have another brand identical to that $4 knife sharpener that I use for touching up my knives and pocket knives. If I need to resharpen a really bad knife, I have a 2 zone Smith's sharpener for that that does well enough. Also, the knives used for this test really don't do adequate justice to show how well the Wicked Edge can do. Maybe next time, use better higher quality blades.
@joelg598
2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the spyderco sharpmaker? It’s not as good as a whet stone but pretty great for $60 and stupid easy to use.
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