I sold my Catalina 309 in 2023, which I enjoyed for 8 years. If I had the money and was younger I would take without hesitation the new Catalina 42. It offers the nicest and the best design of those 4. Thanks for the review, very well done.
@inertmission4427
6 ай бұрын
Awesome video! A boating channel finally got it right and the video walk-through matches the naration - when speaking about the galley, the video is on the galley; when speaking about the berth, the video is on the birth; etc. Well done!!
@in4theride75
6 ай бұрын
I like that catalina, well thought out layout for someone who actually sails.
@maritimetees2315
6 ай бұрын
I am a yacht captain out in California. I have numerous clients who usually live out of state. I take care of their vessels. Ironically, I have all the vessels you talked about. Only a few years older. First of all, the Beneteau Oceanis 38.1 is a no-go. The Jeanneau 379 is a bit better. The Dufour is very squeaky. They all sail decently. In a blow, they are not stiff. The Catalina is much better. Since I sail them, I get the luxury of knowing their characteristics. In lighter air, they all do better than the Catalina. But anything over 15k, the Catalina is more comfortable of a ride.
@jimschumacher9763
6 ай бұрын
I own a 2019 Catalina 425 (S/V Goody2Shoes). Love it! She carried me and my wife on a 1,900 mile blue water passage. She did not disappoint. The boat sails well, is comfortable and easy to handle. Meets all my expectations which is really saying something in that I was very close to buying an Outbound 46 when I made the decision to buy the 425. She's not an Outbound but she's great!
@drhive1645
6 ай бұрын
This video is real revelation, Tim. Thanks a lot. I learned a lot more in 17 minutes than thumbing through all the yachting mags looking at advertisements and checking out brochures. Some of the Europeans (Beneteau in particular) seem to have lost their way, or at least appear to have been designed by people who’ve forgotten about some of the real practicalities of cruising. You only have to check out the anchor situation on all of these boats to realise that Catalina is the one that got it right. And imagine designing a 40(ish) footer where it’s easy to check out all the fluid levels. Who would have thought??? Finally, the interiors of all the boats make it pretty clear that only the Catalina is going to last for 20 years or more without some major refitting. I don't have any problem with modern interiors, but what I do know from European campervans is that the laminates just can't handle wear and tear.
@CarreraGTSCS
6 ай бұрын
I went to the Annapolis Sailboat Show last fall and saw the latest generation of plastic boats. Ugly designs with IKEA interiors. That Catalina does break the mold of modern design though. That interior is a great blend of traditional woodworking and styling with modern touches like all that engine access. Thumbs up for the Catalina!
@mememe5231
6 ай бұрын
Good honest opinion! What more could you ask for. The Catalina is the only one that’s close for me. I’m sure they’re all great for charter, day sailing, weekend cruises, and as you stated impressing the boss. I’d rather a used Caliber LRC, Little Harbor, Shannon or Contest of similar size any day! At least for what we’re looking for in a vessel. I would like our boat to be able to get us home safely. Whenever or wherever Murphy and his law show up. Thank you as always
@victorcisneros713
6 ай бұрын
Never been a fan of the B&R rig. Self tacking jib sounds good but honestly I prefer traditional tracks. As someone mentioned these boat interiors all look like IKEA. Personally give me that Catalina any day. Thanks for the great reviews Tim
@morganmcguire1989
4 ай бұрын
The 410 is lovely at anchor, with headroom everywhere and no climbing over each other at dinner. Upwind in waves the boat handles well, but water indeed constantly runs down the leeward side deck to the helm position, several inches deep. It feels as wet as dinghy racing.
@TheJamesthe13
6 ай бұрын
That Catalina was what every other manufacturer is failing to do. ❤
@MelkarAslan
6 ай бұрын
I like the easy access to the engine and other maintenance
@donquesenberry
6 ай бұрын
Glad you were able to talk to Ed Massey, the Captain is an expert on Catalina. I am compilating buying the Catalina 425,
@bretphillips9144
6 ай бұрын
It’s funny to see all the new sailboats today with twin helms, massive beam, and giant cockpits for entertaining. Our boat has all of those things too… (Catalina 400). Gerry Douglas introduced the 400 in 1994 (30 years ago!). He was ahead of his time!
@MyF1Scuderia
6 ай бұрын
The Catalina looks like the way to go! Thank You for sharing!
@svsalserenity4375
6 ай бұрын
Looks like its pretty tough to find a Blue Water boat these days
@GeorgeValkenburg
6 ай бұрын
Another great video. Best of the bunch was the Catalina with all the easy access for maintenance. Love that all electric was available. Wish we could have seen one. Twin Helms look "cool" but really for most sailors they are just something else to go wrong, more to maintain.
@gnsmk357
6 ай бұрын
The last boat would be the only one of these we would have an intrest in. Still looking for that five year old 50 footer. To use as a third retirement home. Great Video.
@Mike-xn8yt
6 ай бұрын
Catalina by far the most thought out and nicest below. It's the only boat that doesn't look like an Ikea boat.
@starboardfilms
6 ай бұрын
Appreciate the critical comments, especially the flimsy floor of the Dufour. All the other 'mainstream' publications are just fluffery. I was told specifially and directly by a well known magazine exc editor they had to do an excellent review for a certain brand because they were the biggest advertiser. Break the mold and be plenty critical where its deserved. Catalina was by far the best of the bunch but that Jenn side deck had my eye, I hate crawling over coamings at my age.
@johnbaummer5748
6 ай бұрын
I love the idea of wrapping a boat. Really can personalize it.
@JP-lz3vk
6 ай бұрын
I'd like the idea of wrapping the boat, but if there's a scratch and then stormy seas, I bet it would end up ragged
@FredPegley
6 ай бұрын
We were at the show and It was definitely a multi-hull show. I (as one person mentioned) was shocked at the amount of windows built into the hulls. They will be great at the dock but can’t wait to see them in a few years when they start to leak. Wondering your thoughts…
@jeffa61
6 ай бұрын
I was at the Miami boat show hands down the Catalinas were the best boats IMO.
@rexanddonnaboyd
6 ай бұрын
The Catalina was my hands down favorite. The others look like slip-queens that shouldn't be taken to sea. Not being able to wash the anchor chain is ridiculous ... who'd thought that would ever make it past the junior designer? Thanks for another good video!
@bravofighter
6 ай бұрын
I like the electric engine, the factory wrap, and the interior of the Catalina. That easy maintenance layout sings to me. I like that there was a Captain available to answer your questions, that’s wonderful. How much was the Catalina? 🥶
@freemansmith1
6 ай бұрын
Another great episode. I did a double with the "50,000 buying spree". Most other vids I watch, I don't comment...except yours always seem outstanding. Thanks Tim, Marty
@jonesn02
6 ай бұрын
I have a boat without backstay. Never been an issue. When running down wind, rarely is it exactly on my stern so running slightly off isn't a problem. When want to be closer to directly on back I drop my main and run my headsail or spinnaker only. As for the boats featured the only one I would consider is the Catalina. The others are not designed for owner operator/cruiser. One of my favorite layouts ever is Catalina 400. You get twin helm and center lined aft cabin.
@kennethoates4004
5 ай бұрын
Happy owner of that Catalina’s little sister, a 355. Well thought out boat with beautiful woodwork and innovative filter and engine access to minimize boat yoga. Gerry Douglas did a great job with the 5 series boats. Really like having a legitimate traveler and shrouds that aren’t swept back as well.
@gregdorn9403
Ай бұрын
I am a firm believer in an adjustable back stay and an ability to sail down win at 150 plus TWA with boom well out. Also back stay can help control rig movement in long offshore downwind crossings. No back stay is a deal breaker...
@thomasczaplicki3159
6 ай бұрын
I get the twin helm, but I wonder how many people consider the long term maintenance challenges associated with the steering system and rudders. As a single helm, monohull owner of a 24 year old vessel currently undergoing rudder bearing changes, I'm thankful there is only one!!
@billcoleman8854
6 ай бұрын
I agree. But then, having gone to a wider boat with two helms, If you took them away and gave me a single wheel in the middle, I would more sad than I will be when I have the extra maintenance issues with two wheels. I'm afraid it is just what comes with changing styles (widths) of boats. And having had an older C&C that would wipe out downwind with those skinny rear ends . . . Don't want to go back there either.
@joekujawski8479
6 ай бұрын
To clarify, the Catalina has twin helm wheels, but they both control the single rudder. The boat has just one rudder.
@briangross45
6 ай бұрын
Great reviews Tim. I own the Catalina 425 and can attest to the performance and quality. What sold me was the walk through I got from Gerry the designer/chief engineer in 2018. The mechanical tunnel makes maintenance easy and almost comfortable! Another feature you may have seen is the notch into the combing where the intuitive access forward is located. This way you don’t step over a wide backrest into the cockpit, and by the way, the deck and cockpit seat are the same level there! The small annoyance is the dark streaks on the hull from deck water runoff to openings in the toe rail. If only the water ran off to a skupper aft like they did in the 545. Keep up the great work!
@valerieb.4912
6 ай бұрын
Brian, I was really impressed the whole engine room, the side area to the filters, the oil check on the bottom, the chain locker, and even the stern is well protected. One question how does she sail?
@briangross45
6 ай бұрын
@@valerieb.4912we moved from the 320 to the 425 and found her easy to single hand and possessing the same polite mannerisms in a gust. We went with the fin keel so she draws just shy of 7 feet but can point easily to 30 degrees with her inboard shrouds. We fly the self tacker in the early and late season here in New England (tacking=turn the wheel!), and a 155 for the summer doldrums. With the in mast furling, and furling lines led aft for the code-0, we never need to leave the cockpit unless you want to enjoy the sun-bed on the foredeck. Her polars get you over 8.5 knots and she will do all of it with a light displacement of just over 18,000 lbs. when the wind does not cooperate, our Yanmar 4JH57 gets us around 7 knots at 1200 (1gph). If you can find a 425 or any of the other 5 series boats, you should jump aboard for a test sail. They have similar hull design ratios.
@valerieb.4912
6 ай бұрын
Hi Brian, Thank you responding and all the information. The only issue I have is the 7 ft keel. I am trying to keep it 5-6 ft. This is one of the reason I like Bristols because of the Center Board. And yes I am looking at solo sailing majority of the time.
@RustyCroom
6 ай бұрын
Specifically on the Jeanneau. The sloeped side decks are relatively old news now. I have sailed 2 models with them, including some reasonably spicy offshore swells and in a couple meters of confused seas rounding a few islands. I didn't find any issue, and frankly, in warm weather I found the occasional wash of water over my feet while helming outboard very refreshing. Cold weather would be a different issue. I have also had the rail in the water and the water flowed down the side decks and out the starn, no issues at all. No broaching experience with them. I think you nailed the ease of moving forward. It is so easy, especially when you have guests or inexperienced sailors on board and need to check the anchor or other things forward. Its super fast. I do not really appreciate the under bowsprit anchor roller. Its sometimes very difficult to deal with mooring ball lines that want to catch on the anchor and I personally prefer a dual role to give options. The other issue is trying to pass the 2nd line though the mooring ball in a strong wind with the boat offset (due to only having one line on) and needing to get the 2nd line around the anchor...
@victorsterner5331
6 ай бұрын
The Catalina was the best looking of this bunch, but I still like boats with a single helm wheel, I do not need 2. The older Catalina-Morgans are still what I judge all other boats against
@MindBodySoulOk
6 ай бұрын
OMG that Catalina is awesome. I own a Dufour Classic 36 which is nice to live on but man, I want a Catalina.
@rustyheyman214
6 ай бұрын
Liked the sloping side deck. Catalina was great with access. My favorite is still the Garcia 45. So many good things with that boat.
@maurolimaok
Ай бұрын
Never thought of wrapping a boat, but seems interesting in one example. Arksen has amazing aluminum yatchs (85), but paint the aluminum, somehow, feels me wrong. Wrapping that shell, at the other side, seems fine. Extra-protection and easy to change. Interesting idea.
@dwhetsel
6 ай бұрын
Catalina has been making great boats like this for many years, going back to the 400. I absolutely hate the Ikea look below in the first three. I haven’t looked at the specifications data on them but would be willing to bet the Catalina is heavier than the other three also.
@charlieodom9107
2 ай бұрын
That Catalina 425 is REALLY Nice to work on. I had one come in that was struck by lightning, so we had to replace literally everything on the boat, and it was one of the easiest I have ever worked on. The large aft compartment that you can "climb in" and work on the rudder or other items, is a slight overstatement, but you CAN climb into it. It just isn't very comfortable to do. Also note that access is from outside the boat, so you certainly wouldn't want to do it in any kind of a following sea or rough water, because you'll flood the boat.
@mac-doien9298
6 ай бұрын
Great stuff Tim.. editing voice over, details everywhere TIGHT..! Probably watch this again & again 😊😊 PS Catalina ❤
@ferencluki
6 ай бұрын
I stopped the video at the Dufour's lack of anchor rode (chain) hatch. Our boat (2008 Bavaria 50) had an issue of the chain building up on the slope that was intended to deflect the incoming chain into the chain locker. This caused the chain to jump off the vertical windlass wheel and start running out. While hoisting the anchor we used to have the locker hatch open and with a broom stick handle kept pushing the build up down to prevent the "runaway". The boats had no anti-chaffing provision on the shrouds either for the jib sheets. The self tacking jib doesn't allow for a jib > 100% Another thing that boggles my mind is the motor controls (throttle/shifter) at knee height. Makes docking into tight berths a real cardio exercise of squatting down/standing up and also from a safety perspective the looking up/down while docking is an issue.
@SVTONICBoatWives
6 ай бұрын
The old Dufour 35 didn't have backstays, it was a pain. The fuller on the Dufour is a speed furler, great bits of kit and the anchor looker has been made that way so the chain doesn't bunch up etc. The difference between Catalina and the other boats is she is made with the owners in mind the other three boats are made mostly with the charter market.
@CKackley
3 ай бұрын
I sailed on a Jeaneau 410 for a couple seasons. Nice performing hull. Easy neutral helm. Tight and dry cabin. But the walk around deck…sure, it does make it easy to move from the cockpit to the side deck. It also makes a nice pit from which to operate the winch. What I didn’t like was losing a nice wide place to sit outboard to the side of the helm. It also had only a notional seat abaft the helm, just enough for one butt cheek. If I were considering a Jeanneau 410, I’d instead go for the Beneteau 40.1. Same hull but better helm space since it lacks the walk around feature.
@maurolimaok
Ай бұрын
I would love to see you talking about Sirius DS and Contessa 32
@chrisryba6190
5 ай бұрын
Apologies for being a snob here. But crawling on these boats myself, I am floored at how little one gets for the money. The Benetau and Jeneau look as if built by Ikea. For half-million, I’d expect much more. I have a 2022 Hallberg-Rassy, and the build quality is drastically better, for just a bit more money and hassle on import. The Catalina, however, is a standout.
Very good to get your take on these boats (around 40). I think the walk around on the Sun Odyssey is the most interesting aspect of those showed. Agree that it may be a risk on rough weather and if you are sailing with "water on the deck" it may become a real drag. Would love to test that part. And pls keep on going to shows and we can enjoy more of these videos.
@h2o2819
6 ай бұрын
Catalina has a lot of positives for maintenance and longetivity, but makes big performance sacrifices. A 6-ish foot fin keel and slab reefing would be a good start towards attracting people who want a sailboat, not just an intracoastal cruiser.
@w4vp9kf
Ай бұрын
It's a pity the Sirius 40DS wasn't there (only on the west coast/Seattle right now for shows). This German boat completely blows away anything else in glass (or it's class!). Alternatively, look at Alubat or Allures in aluminium. I had a C36 but I wouldn't have taken her much through the Caribbean - even outside, just the Bahamas maybe. You can see the Catalina is directly of that lineage. The old Clearwater/Largo manufacturers are very nearly finished. Glad to see that my friend Ed Massey is still around.
@charles.neuman18
6 ай бұрын
This video just made my Monday morning that much better. Thanks.
@michaeldenicola6725
6 ай бұрын
We went to the Miami boat show the first day on Wednesday. I was surprised limited number of sailboats. We went to go to the Harken booth as I am changing the main car on my C&C 99 to make it easier when racing and when my wife and I are going out for a day or evening sail and it is only two of us. I think the Catalina is setup the best for my taste. And a better price point. I do like the hard chimes on the two French boats. Maybe cause I am older and like more older stiles. Your review was right on 100% Thank you for sharing. and good luck at Practical Sailor. Safe Sailing
@nmauch
5 ай бұрын
Like those features on the Catalina.
@filiproets3618
5 ай бұрын
Still satisfied with my jeanneau 39 performance 2009. And when hearing the prices I hope to sail it for still a long time
@LambdaZetaTeke
6 ай бұрын
I wish Yanmar would either cut some inspection ports into their covers over the belts/pullies or, better yet replace the opaque cover with a clear perspex cover. This would facilitate both pre-trip inspections and trouble shooting engine problems.
@SalingSamantas
6 ай бұрын
Call me crazy, but but miss my tiller. Better feel sailing and out of the cockpit when you are not sailing it's a much better use of space. Twin helm is just more stuff that breaks and needs to be maintained simple is always. more reliable
@ORBEX
6 ай бұрын
Also why no solar instead of a generator?
@JetlagJohnny
6 ай бұрын
love the new gig! Technically, put some acoustic tiles in the room to ditch the echo chamber, coffee can sound.
@shredderhater
6 ай бұрын
Catalina was sweet, love the weapon that other boat
@danielsimpson2041
6 ай бұрын
Doing a wrap sounds like a good idea. Just wonder how well it would hold up in salt water?
@aquaholic3
6 ай бұрын
My favourite was the Catalina. What I’m curious about are the lack of mainsail travellers on these boats. They all seem to have triangular style mainsheets. I’d love to know more about these “new to me” systems. Perhaps in a future edition.
@EdwardOrlando-g2l
3 ай бұрын
Love the Catalina with the proper anchor locker and the lead keel, Tim. Can you speak about cast iron ballast/keel in Beneteaus? Oxidizing cast iron turns me off. Can you tell me why I am wrong? Thank you!
@carrierserena
6 ай бұрын
love the Dufour 41
@gregoryward93
6 ай бұрын
At 76 I appreciate the sloping side decks. I think about them every time I step over the back rest into the cockpit of my daughter’s Catalina 350. I don’t appreciate wraps. You’re going to be replacing that wrap every 5 or less years. Gel coat will last a heck of a lot longer. Looks pretty though.
@The_R_Vid
6 ай бұрын
Not a fan of the 'no backstay' decision. In addition to sailhandling issues, a backstay is a great place to grab in unsteady seas.
@jokeralpha4482
3 ай бұрын
Catalina won this Pageant.
@CheekyMonkey1776
5 ай бұрын
Traditional is traditional for a reason and it typically has something to do with safety
@intotheunknown804
6 ай бұрын
Great video glad your not afraid to criticize
@richardduval9237
6 ай бұрын
The Catalina is the only one I will go offshore!
@danielboughton3624
6 ай бұрын
Saw a few at the Annapolis show and thought oh, IKEA is making boats. I think it's cute you are worried about the galley at sea for a boat that is maybe a coastal cruiser. I can't imagine crossing an ocean in any of them or being in any kind of rough weather. I'm a pass on the lot.
@chriscoffman8340
6 ай бұрын
Catalina hands down!
@CalculatedMistakes
6 ай бұрын
I saw the Catalinas at the Annapolis Sailboat Show this past fall (2023). They were very nice, and not as expensive as an IP, Tartan, or a Garcia. I'm not sure how I feel about the wrap. I think I need more information. I'd like to see how it looks after a couple of summers. I hope you'll be able to review the Sirius Yachts at some point. I'm fascinated with them. They are my current favorite boat.
@BertVermeerSailing
6 ай бұрын
I've worked on more than a few Catalinas and am impressed with the thought going into having to service equipment. Of the four I see three dock queens and one actual sailor's boat. I've never owned a Catalina, but would pick this model vs the others hands down. I didn't see any hand holds once you've cleared the companionway when entering the cavernous cabin. Is the boat supposed to stay flat when going to windward, or on a beam reach in heavy airs? Oh, wait a minute, my mistake, they're dock queens. Nothing over 10 knots! Nicely done Tim. I'd like to see comparisons in the 30 ft range, boats that may be affordable!
@michaelpaolini7753
6 ай бұрын
Wrap is cool. An easy fix of a docking boo boo. Serious off shore seas are not what these boats are about. A boarding stern wave will go right into the cabin. Excellent presentation ! I tend to skim Practical Sailor because it is too wordy. Your presentation is less wordy with all the info ! In a KZitem world where people must make money by how long the vid is, you hit the right pace. I don't have to speed up the playback speed. I like the Catalina wood. Some may call the others Clorox bottles. None have teak trim or hand rails on deck. Too bad
@edwardstarrett5545
6 ай бұрын
Love the boat tours. You make em, I'll watch. The Catalina looked pretty capable as an island hopping cruiser. Would you cross the Atlantic in her?
@clydewood8322
5 ай бұрын
Clearly the Catalina is the better boat if you actually want to leave the dock. I’ve owned both Catalinas and a Benetau and the Catalina was the only one of the four that I would consider.
@michaelmcnair1880
6 ай бұрын
Great video Tim
@trevormaillard7770
6 ай бұрын
The Catalina is awesome with functional accessibility to critical systems.The other boats seem to cater dock mates.One had three ‘wet heads’I prefer two cabins and at least a separate shower compartment with adequate door widths for Uncle Joe.😮The galley to starboard,no sea berths,and limited navigation stations are some of my other grips.Wide sterns necessitate twin helms for visibility.Pricing for the executive market and Chartering.Overall I would prefer the Catalina styling.
@ChannelMeadowcrest
6 ай бұрын
Saw the same Beneteau and Jeanneau at Annapolis boat show, missed the Catalina & DuFour. I have to respectfully disagree with most of other commenters; the Jeanneau is gorgeous in person, and the sloped side decks are genius. It’s clearly a boat for entertaining, so there are compromises. Wish I had seen the Catalina - the access features look amazing. Which would I buy, if I had the money? None of these, I’d take the 40 ft. Hallberg-Rassy that made it to Annapolis. Drop dead gorgeous, and “only” $700k…. 😳😂
@turboturtle9083
6 ай бұрын
Most of them are closer to floating cottages than yachts.
@gerryconnolly5426
6 ай бұрын
If I could afford any of them, I'd go with the Catalina.
@sailingtoucan
6 ай бұрын
My son is looking for a 45 foot cat. Reviews would be appreciated.I saqil a Catalina 28 MKii. Thanks Capt Farmer
@seonewport363
6 ай бұрын
I think all electric propulsion on a sailboat males as much sense as it does on cars. It is great for a couple hundred miles, then that is it. You are going no where. It is ok for people who want to go out for a few hours only. With a Yanmar onboard you can cruise for several days non stop. That capability is a fundamental requirement to my way of thinking. With that fantastic motor Yanmar makes you can depend on planning to refuel at significant increments. The slope decks are great to walk around on, it is a wonderful convenience from my point of view. It makes a great deal of sense to me, so much so that I am willing to risk the possibility of slower self righting action. It seems very likely the naval architect would have carefully calculated a righting moment to be within normal limits. I think the Catalina is very likely the most robust hull and best value and safest in the long run. I just wish they would have maintained the original dedicated navigation station design, as in previous models. I detest the trend to these vague chart shelves. It is difficult to find a dedicated navigation station unless you are in the 50 foot range. The swept back spreaders and no back stay design performs beautifully in my experience. Back in the 80's on a Hunter 40, our boat would go into the groove almost effortlessly. It sailed like a dream.
@gregoryward93
6 ай бұрын
Add a diesel generator to the electric motor and you now have plenty of electricity to run AC on the hook and expand your range to hundreds of miles.
@gregdavydov1733
6 ай бұрын
It does not make too much sense to use electric motor with diesel generator. Use Yanmar and it will generate electricity and run the boat. Besides it is a sailboat and you in do not need engine too much anyway.
@CarreraGTSCS
6 ай бұрын
I don't know what the actual duration of the electric options are but the truth is thst most sailors only use the engine/motor for maneuvering in and out of the harbor so electric can make a lot of sense.
@warrencranch2614
6 ай бұрын
Great review, imo the Catalina, will be the best long term, I loved the 400 when it first came out, and this seems like a natural evolution, such easy access to the systems! The seats folding out to create an outdoor berth, a really great idea! my neighbor here in Long Beach CA, had his 34ft power boat wrapped last year, it was 1/4 the cost of paint, was done in 1 day while on a trailer at the public launch parking lot, so far it still looks great and shows no sign of wear, that’s only a year….but perhaps it’s a viable option.
@JeffreyDRein
5 ай бұрын
Slocombe didn't need a dual helm with his 14 foot beam.... Is redundancy or double the expense
@tech-test-break-fix
6 ай бұрын
no backstay is a no-go for me
@paulmaj7710
6 ай бұрын
Great review.
@ziraga
6 ай бұрын
humm is there a wrap for the bottom? instead painting, just wrap it and be done, would it be cheaper?
@locutus8496
6 ай бұрын
Catalina gets a bad rap in some quarters, but the more I look into them the more I think they are solid boats, even their oldest models. And they just keep getting better all the time, as your fourth example shows.
@billhanna8838
6 ай бұрын
77 years An old salt delivery skipper > The Benes & Jennies are looking cheap now ,Those angkers setups just horrible , Must have double rollers & separate stowage from the inside , The sloping side decks > Feet get wet REEF I like BUT the inside looking like from a IKEA store No Style , Cheap glued on panels & Structural frames (Still not glassing in the frames , & No main travelers OK for awhile but wear ??? . Looking like all the 'modern upgrades' are for cheaper build quality (Profits) Now that Catalina = NICE .
@maurolimaok
Ай бұрын
The no back enclosure aft (stern) means those pissed Orcas can bite you instead the rudder. I wouldn't go with those options.
@playb4work447
6 ай бұрын
Twin helm all the rage? Where have you been the last 10 years. They’ve been around for quite a while on high production boats.
@ridelots
6 ай бұрын
Came here to say similar, except it’s more like 25 years. Ton of charter boats from early 2000s with twin helms. Easier to get to the swim platform.
@muurtagh
6 ай бұрын
Out of these 4, Catalina wins the race, that's for sure. Yet these look more like a coastal cruisers or rather marina enjoyers.
@tomlambert1833
5 ай бұрын
The Catalina is what I wood choose ,the higher price would be worth it
@billbergquist4722
6 ай бұрын
A sloped deck is not desirable for us northern sailors. Lake Superior in September can give you frosty decks in the morning and trying to walk on a slope frequently goes badly.
@jackwalby6257
6 ай бұрын
No Grand Soleil 40?? kinda surprised dealer didn't have it there.
@practical-sailor
6 ай бұрын
Actually it was! But no one could get on it. I tried very hard 😢
@ArtVandelayII
6 ай бұрын
Price is a huge problem with all of these for me. The Catalina looks like the best of the bunch, but last time I looked at one it was $500k+. I mean, it's a nice boat, but that price opens up a ton of possibilities. You're competing with, and even exceeding the price of the Island Packet 349, Ovni 370, Sirius 365, or a Tartan 365 at that point, and I'd take any of those over any of these boats. Plus, if you're just wanting a marina/island hoping boat, the new C-Cat 37 is a new catamaran that comes in around $400k that will seemingly do a better job at that. I dunno, maybe at around $250k the new Jeanneau 350 makes sense, but anything above $250k, I'd be looking at one of the other boats I mentioned.
@tomcollins4823
6 ай бұрын
The Dufour, Benneteau and Jeannau are not targeted at anyone doing blue water cruising. They are built to sit in a marina and offer a pleasant outdoor sitting space for entertaining with occasional coastal passages The new Catalina did not look well built.
@Denisifix
6 ай бұрын
Catalina wins this one. The no back stay is a big no for me, so as the no anchor locker. Who came up with that one?
@YTMegiddo
6 ай бұрын
Catalina all the way. But sadly I will never afford these guys in my lifetime. At the Annapolis show I was shocked when I walked around these squeaky deck soles and the sharp corners everywhere.
@knlazar08
4 ай бұрын
No way would I have a 40 footer with electric aux power only. In a day sailer maybe. For a live aboard boat It would be nice to have both diesel and electric, but if I have to have only one it'll be diesel for me. I think the best power setup might be the one that Leo from Samson Boat Co installed in Tally Ho. Twin electric motors for short range power-on-demand, like for entering slips or narrow channels, and a diesel for longer range or more speed if needed. And with the diesel running, both electric motors double as generators too. Something like 10 kilowatts worth. That ought to charge the batteries quick, fast, and in a hurry! 🙂
@shanghaidiscovery2664
6 ай бұрын
hmm... I look at this and wonder who these boats are targeted at. Way too expensive for most people and stuff like the wrapping and even double helm seem just gimmicks. What's the real amount of time that anyone really spends at the helm even during a passage?
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