Flying with Rich is always a great way to start the weekend. The Conquest is a sweet airplane. Have a great Labor Day holiday!
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad to hear that! You have a great Labor Day holiday as well!
@jeffchapman8992
8 күн бұрын
@FlyingwithRich 1st time viewer. New subscriber. Continued success and thank you.
@FlyingwithRich
8 күн бұрын
@jeffchapman8992 Thankbyou!
@FlyingwithRich
8 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@mountainrunner6922
2 жыл бұрын
A Conquest II is a huge transition from a Saratoga. He did really well flying the plane, situational awareness as well as a great ear on comms. Most owner operators I have flown with are nowhere close to his level of competency. Very nice flight Rob.
@cigarsboozeandnews9726
4 күн бұрын
Learned to fly at AFI at Fullerton in 78z love to watch you fly all around my old stomping grounds.
@mrkc10
Жыл бұрын
Wow! Very impressive performance by Rob. Great heads up/SA flying skills. He even pimped the controller on the first approach 🤩 Seems like a great guy who truly is happy with his purchase from a business standpoint. Good for him. Another awesome video.
@NoelJacobs
3 жыл бұрын
FUL tower hardly makes you fly directly over the field in daylight hours, those in the tower cab really wanted to see the Conquest II overhead.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was surprised too. You're probably right!
@Devyn6Seven
2 жыл бұрын
Any time I've shot the VOR-A they've wanted a turn south of the airfield.
@terry12327
3 жыл бұрын
A great airplane and is nice to see him being a good pilot. And making sure that safety is first and currency and all the airplane mechanisms are good to go! Nice to see this!
@nickpapagiorgio5056
Жыл бұрын
I have ALWAYS loved the Cessna conquest! You will never see planes made like this anymore and they are absolutely stunning to look at and I’m sure even better to fly! Btw the panel upgrades and configuration look clean !
@victorsierra4109
3 жыл бұрын
What blows my mind is your eagle eyes lol. How fast you spot traffic is crazy!
@nateweter4012
2 жыл бұрын
I love this guy. Had a Saratoga, no multi time since the 80’s and zero turbine time and was like “I think I want a Cheyenne 400LS” lol! I think it’s incredible. The Conquest II is a total beast in its own right, I don’t fault the insurance company for their requirements. Everyone says the same thing when transitioning from single pistons or piston twins to twin turboprops: “Everything happens so much faster”. It’s very true. You have to be way out ahead of the plane and that can only happen with tons of practice and experience. You can’t help but love this amazing plane though. The 441 has a quality that’s entirely it’s own. It’s the end of the great line of twin Cessnas. This guy has grown on me too, he definitely knows what he wants and isn’t embarrassed to go after it.
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the message!
@flywm
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like he did a great job! Huge step up. The 441 has been my favorite plane I’ve personally flown out of many types, from corporate to even big airliners. The 441 had a ton of raw power, economical and had long legs. Enjoy!
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - great machine.
@rfriesen1644
3 жыл бұрын
I think you posted a video back when Rob bought the 441. It's fun to check in again and see how he and the airplane are doing.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
I think that was a hangar tour. Thanks for watching!
@LESPAUL44mag
3 жыл бұрын
441 Conquest is a beast! Flown in several. Not quite the room of a B200, but great bang for the buck.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Parr4theCourse
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Rob, pretty bird too!!!
@jonclassical2024
3 жыл бұрын
Fun video Rich, thanks! I used to work for a company that have 2 Cessna jets (Citation 4 n 5) and a Cessna Conquest, which I flew on from BWI to MOB.....I made them stop at CGI to pee (I could not use the tube in front of 4 of my peers)....funny the pilots and others also RAN to the bathroom and we all agreed we really did need the FUEL as the HEADWINDS were strong that day...nice plane thought! (PS.....in a corporate environment, this is also 2 pilot plane!)
@markschwab4027
Жыл бұрын
The 441 is a magnificent aircraft. At FL350 trues 280 to 290 knots at a fuel burn of 60 gallons an hour or a little less. Ive flown most of the fleet and did the flights for the first RVSM solution and recently did the flying for the rvsm solution for the Garmin autopilot. For range and performane theres nothing that will run with the 441. Just a stab, you run away and hide from a B200.
@FlyingwithRich
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I have limited experience in the Conquest II but made a flight years ago in one from Wichita to Orange County, and still had the fuel to make Seattle! Winds were working in our favor, but in a class by itself with range/useful load! Thanks for watching!
@spiro5327
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, going from a piston single to a turbine twin would be challenging i think. This is one very nice plane indeed. Rob seems like an extremely appreciative and well mannered guy. Very enjoyable, thanks Rich
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Rob is a great guy and really did the transition right. As he said, still learning! Thanks for watching.
@Spyke-lz2hl
2 жыл бұрын
Nice change of pace. Kind of a profile of the plane and the pilot. His humility in aviation versus his (assumed) necessary aggressiveness in his business is very interesting.
@classicraceruk1337
2 жыл бұрын
The Conquest is a great aeroplane, I flew in on a few times back in the early 80’s. They are fast, comfortable and have a great range.
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Hopefully will be doing a Conquest I review soon. Thanks for watching.
@RyanRoberts15
3 жыл бұрын
So cool to see these not-so-common airplanes in action
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chucklesx
Жыл бұрын
I see Garmin as very similar to Cirrus, not saying there is anything wrong with any of their products but their super power is marketing and getting their systems in as upgrade and OME equipment especially in the training environment. So many pilots have learned on them and may not even be aware of other manufacturers even they are viable options.
@FlyingwithRich
Жыл бұрын
Good point - Garmin really has the market cornered.
@alexanderdavidson7837
3 жыл бұрын
What a mint aircraft... Such a weapon
@TheFirePilot
3 жыл бұрын
Great airplane. This is the king of the twin Cessna world. This is like the grandpa of the 310R we fly. Looks beautiful. Good job!
@richardcox6935
2 жыл бұрын
Look at all those ships waiting and waiting to unload cargo. Wonder what caused all that?
@RadDadisRad
8 ай бұрын
Starts with Co and ends with Vid
@Garagem28customs
Жыл бұрын
what a beautiful plane o my God
@johngarduno
3 жыл бұрын
my friend flew from sna to mia none stop with a tail wind it was radd.....
@spencer312.
10 ай бұрын
What a beautiful airplane. I think that you are doing a good job staying ahead of the airplane. If I could give you a couple pieces of advice, I think that you should work on briefing the approaches that you are flying for better situational awareness, also try to develop a flow for different configurations of the airplane. ( before takeoff, climb, cruise, descent, and approach), then back up with a checklist, and have your copilot help you with some workload during critical phases of flight. Just some observations! Safe flying to you!
@josephmulheron652
2 жыл бұрын
Oh those 331's are awesome. Flew in the Flying Watermelon with those,
@nifs159
2 жыл бұрын
What a cool guy! That is a HUGE transition! Beautiful bird, love the avionics!!!
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Hopefully another video coming on the Conquest II!
@terrytomlinson8772
3 жыл бұрын
Another enjoyable flight with good A/C review
@Recovering_Californian
3 жыл бұрын
I earned my wings over 10 years ago at Fullerton. Nice to see this approach again. Been a long time.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - unique approach into Fullerton.
@GLICKMIRE
2 жыл бұрын
Rob seems like a pretty competent pilot. I would ride with him.
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
He is very competent, and take his flying seriously.
@g1m250
3 жыл бұрын
What a beauty 😍
@fastjet714
3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, thanks Rich
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bernardanderson3758
3 жыл бұрын
I’m ready Rich in this Beast to do some approaches myself
@johnhoss2950
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet bird. I had 441-0198 and loved every minute of it.
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Thanks for watching!
@scotty11782
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich
@kowkunt8710
Жыл бұрын
Nice ride. This is Giddy-Up !
@dreamaviation381
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Appreciate all the knowledge you’ve shared. Cessna has limit the airframe time to 22,500 hours….why? Is there still issues with the wing spar on the C441? It’s a nice airplane with those Garrett engines…are those -10’s engines? The range on the C441 is like 2200nm right depending on payload? Can you fly that from California to Hawaii? Thanks again!!! Sorry for all the questions but I’m a huge fan of the C441.
@ehtashamamir7041
3 жыл бұрын
my 1st multi engine in 1989.....good to see
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Rich!
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Really enjoyed the flight!
@terryklun498
3 жыл бұрын
Keep the videos coming! I wonder how many planes Rich is checked out in?
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Will hopefully keep the videos coming - 30+ years of GA flying accumulates a lot of airplane checkouts!
@jettechdonatkins
3 жыл бұрын
This was great! I worked 441's for over 20 yrs. at Yingling in Wichita,KS. I was one of the best anywhere at setting up the power management system on these bad boys.Either Dave and Joe at Westar or myself and Bruce at Yingling were some of the best on this aircraft.Yes,Russ Meyers did not like a prop plane making the early Citations look bad! Any idea the s/n of this one? Thanks Rich!
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
S/N 155. I have had Don Beaty do most of the work on it.
@jettechdonatkins
3 жыл бұрын
@@TIO540S1 I am not sure if I ever saw this at Yingling over the years.I was there '79-'03.I wasn't sure who was working these now days.Thank you! Any Yingling log entries?
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
@@jettechdonatkins No Yingling or Westar. I’ve had Bruce Rayner at TechnicAir and Don at (now) ASAP Aerospace work on it, along with minor stuff done here at Long Beach by OCR Aviation, who also hangars, washes, provides for fueling, and puts the airplane on the ramp for me.
@dmitryrykov831
3 жыл бұрын
Liked right away!
@johnfitzpatrick2469
3 жыл бұрын
G,day Rich from Sydney Australia. Thankyou for including the approach plate. Any Nav suppliments such as WAC, sectionals, METAR, ATIS, NOTAM, weight and load Calculations, would be greatly appreciated. Staying proficient for safety. 🌏🇦🇺
@scottmajor2620
3 жыл бұрын
Thought that was a picture of Cheyenne 3, not 400LS. Three props. :)
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
You're right. The editor tried his best ;)
@ProPilotPete
3 жыл бұрын
If he has ADS-B he doesn’t need a RVSM certificate for operating in US, that reg was changed in January I believe. Only needed if he goes international. Nice panel.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you still need RVSM equip in US. You don’t need approval from local FSDO like before, but still need the equipment. Thanks for watching!
@ProPilotPete
3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich is the conquest not RVSM compliant?
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
It can be, but depends on equipment installed. The one in video is not RVSM.
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich That’s correct Rich. At some point (assuming funds are available) I’d like to have RVSM compliant equipment installed. The service ceiling on the airplane is 35,000. The Conquest II is more fuel efficient up there but not quite as fast.
@Ok-551
6 ай бұрын
You’d think they’d start making them again, the baron survived.
@thatdave86
2 жыл бұрын
It has always interested me to how you pilots can understand the conversations between yourselves and the Tower and other planes , everything is rather fast and sounds gabbled , obviously this is where a pilot has to have higher interlect and brain power and obviously the long term training ,just my observation from watching . Certainly a nice machine ,the long nose design,what does that area get used for ?baggage ? Certainly a great day for the view Cheers
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
It's just practice. Once you know the terminology it's a very easy language. Yes correct. The nose is for baggage.
@paultaylor9939
3 жыл бұрын
Great plane thanks for sharing all the best.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TRISTAN440
3 жыл бұрын
wooooohooo! 11.5k views! 10.6k subs! Nice work Rich!
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tristan!
@TrainSounds
8 ай бұрын
Have you flown the C425? I hope there is a video of you flying one soon.
@FlyingwithRich
7 ай бұрын
Coming soon!
@DonAv8s
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video again Rich! Awesome aircraft! By comparison, my SF50 Vision Jet (single engine FJ-33-5A turbofan) burns about 70 GPH at FL270. This twin burns a total of about 75 GPH. Thats pretty efficient. The owner seems like a nice guy and great customer. Thanks
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the message - and great info on the Vision Jet. I have not flown that airplane yet so appreciate the feedback. Rob is a great guy and I think will get a lot of utility out of the Conquest II.
@DonAv8s
3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich I would be happy to take you up in mine if I ever make it to LGB. I am thinking of my next plane. These videos are great.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s do it. Let me know when you are in SoCal. Where are you based?
@DonAv8s
3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich I am based out of the Nashville area. I have a little KZitem aviation channel for fun.
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in chatting with you about the Vision Jet. I have to admit to being quite critical of the airplane and its missions. You can probably find my comments on various KZitem channels that have featured the SF50. Given its range and capacity, I didn't understand the mission where the SF50 would be the best choice. I'm happy to be educated though. A couple of times when I made similar comments, the channel owners or other commenters got a bit... testy!
@richchatwin2989
3 жыл бұрын
Any info on that Virgin 747 behind you in the intro part of the video? Didn’t expect to see that at LGB! Keep the great videos coming!
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
That's from Virgin Galactic. It's in LGB quite often. Thank you!
@GS-wn2dw
3 жыл бұрын
Oh man....and I thought flying a 58 Baron was task-loaded!!
@bartofilms
3 жыл бұрын
In terms of actual IFR training and currency, which is better, flying with fogged glasses like this or flying in a professional full motion sim?
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
I think full motion sim is probably the best, but real airplane flying in actual or simulated IMC I think also very good to do for proficiency as well. Thanks for the message.
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
To what Rich said, I’d add that the sims available for the Conquest II at Simcom and Flight Safety are not nearly at the same level as those for Citations, Phenoms, and the like. That said, I’ll be at Flight Safety this week for recurrency training where there will be engine cuts at rotation, fires, single engine approaches with a miss at minimums, and all manner of emergencies that can’t be done in the airplane,
@kennyj4366
Жыл бұрын
I was very sad when they Cessna stopped producing these. There is still a place for them in GA.
@FlyingwithRich
Жыл бұрын
I think so but based on new prices for similar - makes you wonder what it would be priced at!
@GaryMCurran
3 жыл бұрын
I see Avidyne is/has come out with new PFDs and probably a MFD as well that has SVT. The Avidyne Vantage. I'm wondering if it'll be able to be retrofitted to his airplane, since it seems it's based around the IFD FMS units. Would be a nice upgrade.
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
After their intro webcast, I emailed them to ask if they’d add the C441. No response. That has been an issue for me with Avidyne.
@GaryMCurran
3 жыл бұрын
@@TIO540S1 I've heard that from other pilots as well. I'm no longer flying, haven't been for quite some time, and I doubt I'll be able to get my medical back, but I do like the looks of the Vantage units. I certainly would like to be able to see them go head to head against the G950Nxi system as far as a retrofit into older airplanes. Even in the Conquest, a two-display system with the IFDs would be a VERY capable system. I hope that Avidyne responds to you soon and that in fact they are going to make it available beyond just the Entegra-equipped Cirrus aircraft, and sooner than later.
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
@@GaryMCurran Agreed!
@josephsellarslesacelier2742
4 ай бұрын
i m joseph-donalde-paul in port orange spruce creek VILLAGE. i see many planes here. do i evr hav to hav a conquest 2 ?
@bangaloremusic
3 жыл бұрын
Why twin transponders? Thanks for the great vids --- just bought a Saratoga btw~
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Redundancy. Nice choice on airplanes!
@bangaloremusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich I figured as much - I didn't realize xpndrs went wonky as often as they do. TIL.
@brianb5594
2 жыл бұрын
Rich - Missed this video but another great one! Question - what camera mounts do you use for your GoPro's? They look sturdy and easy to install? Thanks buddy!
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We use NOVOFLEX mounts. They are about $60 a piece if I remember right. They work pretty well but are still falling off sometimes unfortunately.
@brianb5594
2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich Thanks Rich! I will check them out.
@gtr1952
3 жыл бұрын
I almost asked a dumb question, if it was a conversion. Very nice, never saw one. Seems they want you to have a single PT6 or a jet these days. 8( JMHO --gary
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Very true. Conquest II is really an amazing plane - didn’t play well against early Citations - nearly as fast, much more fuel efficient and longer legs!
@timdwyer6249
3 жыл бұрын
Great video Rich. Any idea if he considered a TBM 700 instead of this airplane? I know they are quite a bit different but the acquisition price + speed/range of the TBMs are right in line. I'm guessing the TBM would be quite a bit cheaper to own and operate as well.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Rob?
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
TBMs are, without a doubt, fantastic airplanes. Each generation has significant enhancements. But the TBMs in the price range I was looking at had some downsides for me. For one thing, I wanted a twin. I know it's said that, for a twin, in the event of an engine failure, the remaining engine has just enough power to get you to the scene of the crash. And, statistically, that's probably accurate, at least for light twins. But, on a single engine, this airplane climbs at (in most situations) at least 750 f.p.m. at maximum gross takeoff weight and has a service ceiling in the high teens. I stay well-trained (in fact, I was at Flight Safety for my semi-annual recurrency training this week). So, with all of that said, I feel very comfortable on the missions I fly with two engines (and, pretty much, two of everything - generators, hydraulic systems, etc.). Also, I have nine seats and a flushing lav. I know that current TBMs have that option but current model TBMs are outside of my price range. And my wife is a big fan of having a toilet!
@danielhawley6817
3 жыл бұрын
Opinion on the C-425 Conquest I with PT-6's?
@TIO540S1
3 жыл бұрын
There's one that lives in OCR's hangar with my airplane and many others. I don't know who owns it and I've never been in it or in any C425. Maybe Rich has.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Great airplane too. Owner loves his and it has the Blackhawk engine conversion which they claim performs like a Conquest II. Smaller fuselage, Pratt’s instead of Garrett/Honeywell.
@RadDadisRad
8 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t know what airplane offers the storage capacity, storage size with fuel consumption with the speed that this offers.
@FlyingwithRich
8 ай бұрын
Range is off the charts as well. I flew once from Wichita to John Wayne and had the fuel left to make Seattle!
@LMays-cu2hp
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@kbuss10
2 жыл бұрын
13:50 ok so you get down to 760 but when should you break off for an actual landing? at BWALT? pr when DME=circling radius for cat A? or fly over and do a VFR pattern and land from that? thx
@coohannewman2241
Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@all_golde
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rich how do you keep the go pros from overheating?
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
We don't 😂. It's actually one of our biggest issues. That's why ended up with one GoPro surviving till the landing.
@AZee-hh4mk
3 жыл бұрын
Rich, are any of the cameras better regarding overheating and battery life than others, or are they all about the same?
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZee-hh4mk don't know. We use GoPros.
@reyray7184
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how possible it is to run usb cable safely in an airplane but that's one way to protect from overheating. You have to remove the battery for less heating and if you lose power obviously it shuts off.
@dkimhackett5262
2 жыл бұрын
Is a IFR approach in clear conditions legal for currency
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
If view limiting device is worn, yes.
@user-ry4xt3sd3i
2 жыл бұрын
Do you fly San Diego?
@AfflictionSuzukiGsxrLosAngeles
3 жыл бұрын
What a good aviation school in Los Angeles area? Looking into getting my pilots license.
@FlyingwithRich
3 жыл бұрын
Which airport are you close to?
@superd6199
2 жыл бұрын
Nice view of all those cargo ships parked outside Long Beach. Let’s go Brandon!
@jameshuggins7320
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rich! Are you a DPE?
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
I am not a DPE - been on my mind to do it, have an application in, but no response from FAA!
@mikeearls126
2 жыл бұрын
That pilot just looks like an intense guy - I would not want to come in 15 mins late with him being my manager
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Rob is a very nice guy. When flying this machine you need to be very focused.
@mikeearls126
2 жыл бұрын
i was just making a funny or maybe a little ball busting
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
I know - all good. He’s a great guy and takes flying serious. We hope to do x/c video with him soon soon so we can show that beast stretching it’s legs.
@mikeearls126
2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich I am just potentially starting out....amazing to see all of the pilots on here. Im on the older side but I might take the plunge. I was up twice and i was very very nervous (years apart). I am going up again in a few weeks and see how i feel. Thank you for all of the great content !
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Have fun! Keep us posted.
@johnnunez17
2 жыл бұрын
Nice✈️🇺🇸✈️
@joedoakes8307
2 жыл бұрын
Does this plane have counter rotating props ?
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
No.
@joedoakes8307
2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingwithRich Thank you !
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@markschwab4027
Жыл бұрын
Nope
@FlightSimDude
2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@scottprice8994
2 жыл бұрын
The ATC is worse than the fast-food drive-through for understanding what they are saying.
@FlyingwithRich
2 жыл бұрын
Ha / that’s a good comparison!
@drpando
Жыл бұрын
I dunno, maybe I'm one of the outliers in the world, but although these videos are interesting to watch, I honestly don't want to be watching OTHERS doing this kind of stuff. I want to be doing it MYSELF. Your videos don't go into any detail (not even a smidge) about how these individuals really achieved this kind of wealth. Hell, even a Saratoga II is close to MILLION DOLLARS! And he's UPGRADED to a 441...... It gets exhausting looking at these machines and lifestyles, wondering what it REALLY took to get there. Like I said, I really don't want to be living through KZitem, I want to be doing it myself. Working for the last 30 years, following the standard mantra of getting educated, getting a meaningful job, and working my way up through the ranks, has never afforded (nor will it EVER afford) this lifestyle. Do we all have to be entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors, insurance CEOs, or have had the personal social upbringing and resources to do this?? The few people I've actually met that can afford this, have ALL had some nefarious background in "realestate development"/city commission bribery or some business-swindle-related enterprise. It seems an honest living just doesn't cut it. Rather than complain about my perspective, how about some real answers?
@johngarduno
3 жыл бұрын
nice rich ive fiown in a c2 and there sweet............................................................
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