My frustration comes from the fact that we all know that this is not truth that is being spoken in this court.The judge is working very hard for the witness and actually all state witnesses.This is annoying because this is our money that these people are wasting.🎉🎉🎉
@Londy991
27 күн бұрын
💯 Clantis, this was Ratha's advice. Mshololo's outburst was justified. She could see right through this judge.
@petroguilherme5549
27 күн бұрын
Absolutely....she picked up being distracted by ambush
@thembinkosiemmanuel9403
27 күн бұрын
My surprise is the judge giving signs with his fingers to the witness, what is going on in this court .....
@auntieckmoyo3947
26 күн бұрын
I saw that too
@nellydee3065
26 күн бұрын
I saw that as well, sometimes he uses his eyes
@petroguilherme5549
26 күн бұрын
Or irritating pen tapping
@tinymokoka8499
26 күн бұрын
I also noticed that, using sign language, 2 and 4
@purpleraintrendz2654
25 күн бұрын
Tjo, that is so telling! What is this really!
@pollybam6758
27 күн бұрын
It is clear baloyi, ratha and the witness meet before the court proceedings
@AphiwepuziMaphaputsi
27 күн бұрын
Yes I think baloyi,judge and the witnesses are all in communication.
@marieklaaste9699
27 күн бұрын
Yoh judge want shut her up 2 listen to at ntazi. Gbinda is in for that boy. I pray their wont win. Nmgo must plz get kelly chicco on the stand that will finished them. Just hope they stil amongs the living😢
@ziblospo
27 күн бұрын
@@marieklaaste9699Ratha has already made his jugdement. He keeps on talking about appeal time and again. That's bad for Ntanzi. I think Ntanzi was threatened and was made to recite the confession. The time they book him out frequently. Allegedly, that's my thought
@marieklaaste9699
26 күн бұрын
@@ziblospo but the last say is our GOD'S judgment. GOD use us for HIS own purpose. We wil be surprise how wonders HE wrks. Baybe worse things could happen to those guys but that is how GOD protect them. They looked well cared for even ntanzi look healthier now
@auntieckmoyo3947
26 күн бұрын
It’s hard to think there are not because the Judge is testifying and changing testimony as he pleases
@AphiwepuziMaphaputsi
26 күн бұрын
Let's rise above this crooks guys🙏 allegedly
@Tsidyannamohapi2381
26 күн бұрын
She really made us proud despite this obvious hostility from a tarven judge narcissistic Baloyi and a liar Gouws who will realize later that he’s thrown under the bus by his colleagues. Whatever he’s trying to explain here is more confusing even a tarven judge is lost. He got it from the phonebook of Ntanzi the easy target. Hopefully our calmest counsel will take this with Gouws before he takes off from the stand Ramosepele don’t let Gouws get away with this. How do you even cross examine what is not clear nje???
@lindiwelindiwe6109
27 күн бұрын
I strongly believe the people from those tarvens know the verdict already🤞
@petroguilherme5549
26 күн бұрын
In Soweto😢😂
@puletlhape647
26 күн бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣🙌
@khethokuhlesiziba5068
26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@mhlonishwabiyase5532
27 күн бұрын
Well done 👏 adv Mshololo. U had state against u plus judge.
@malebs8332
27 күн бұрын
This witness knows nothing. Why is he even there? Ratha knows better than him. Maybe it's time Ratha is called to the stand to testify. 🤷🤣 Can someone explain why Ratha pointed out that Kelly had 5/6 numbers when they were talking about just 1?
@dukemasengana
26 күн бұрын
Oh, haven't you noticed that the bench has become an elongated witness box of late? The bench can also be a prosecution seat. Let him testify while sitting on the bench, he's doing such a fine job. After all, he is the state's star witness. 🔥🔥🔥🇿🇦🤣
@malebs8332
26 күн бұрын
@@dukemasengana 🤞
@craybrancele8489
26 күн бұрын
I Love this comment
@thembikiletsebo9326
26 күн бұрын
May be she's his side chick or bcos of brown envelope. Very disgusting
@josphinemandangu-ps6dc
26 күн бұрын
He is a jerk
@kellybasic7210
26 күн бұрын
Gouws locked himself in a cage and threw away the key. Now he can't escape. Ratha is the one looking for the key to save him
@user-sm3ex4pf7z
26 күн бұрын
What a brilliant analysis...the attentive and open minded analysts. Just ❤❤❤ it
@user-uk2eq7xk5c
27 күн бұрын
Ayikho into engapheli woza 29May Anc out well done mshololo 😂😂😂🎉
@thinathusi1935
27 күн бұрын
First to like and first to comment, good morning Clan family. I can see that you are still using your percentage wisely ….❤
@LuthandoJamda
27 күн бұрын
My auntie used to say Ukleva utya iKaka 😅😅. The longer this case is continuing the more the state messes up . One of these witnesses will burst out and say " my lord i cant do this anymore , these people will do this to my family , referring to the state . And that day is coming and Mr Tarven will be put in a corner . Lets wait and see .
@puletlhape647
26 күн бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@lobisamodiselle8627
26 күн бұрын
You're so 💯 correct. Lies have very short legs
@user-gt7yh6bh6l
27 күн бұрын
Mshololo Msholi you are brilliant and brave , keep it up .
@user-wv2ti7ye1j
26 күн бұрын
She don't take nonsense,,,😂😂😂well done mshololo
@uwaspsite2115
27 күн бұрын
How do you keep cool under such heat,I take my hat off for her,she is great,period.
@nellydee3065
26 күн бұрын
Absolutely 💯 they were pressing all the buttons to trigger her annoyance, but she managed to be in control; hat off for indeed 🎉
@Nhozanhoza
27 күн бұрын
These guys will be rich after this case. It can take years, but God does not sleep nor slumber .
@kellybasic7210
26 күн бұрын
Whenever kk is mentioned Baloyi's seat burns him. He can't sit down
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
In the interest of justice, my lord must be removed from this case.
@TebogoMaupye
26 күн бұрын
We are calling the people with authority,to check and scrutinise this proceedings
@leratophahla1954
27 күн бұрын
Morning the Clan. Mshololo u ba bambe nga ma........😂 they way Gouws was breathing heavily am sure he went to the tarven with Mkhhulu Rambo staring e sikhulu
@auntieckmoyo3947
26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@bhekisibiya917
26 күн бұрын
This judge is very disturbing with his underhand tactics and very worrying. This is not how the judge should behave.
@Nhozanhoza
27 күн бұрын
Mshololo for president 😅
@MduduziSithole
27 күн бұрын
How far with the Petition Clan
@user-sm3ex4pf7z
26 күн бұрын
When I signed, I was 360...haven't checked the status for a long time. I can tell you the Big guns are aware of this.. But it's just entertainment to them...how about entertaining ourselves by them on the 29th...that's gonna hit harder than the petitions and concerns that we have put forward. If they think this case doesn't affect us, as much as it has done... abavuswe indlu isha nangaloloLwesithathu
@pollybam6758
27 күн бұрын
By keeping complaining about this arrogant judge wont help us. Clantis how far is the petition? He has his judgment already
@christinamoila5644
27 күн бұрын
I rest my case on this so called judge
@marieklaaste9699
26 күн бұрын
Rata is a disgrace for an old gogo
@nandimakhanya3725
27 күн бұрын
I thot so too 🤞🤞😳😳 The judge even reminded the witness of thr page number, pg 11😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ntandoyenkosicele5196
26 күн бұрын
Haibo I was like what the hell???😮😂
@RosinaMoruane
27 күн бұрын
Hi Clantis .....I was heartedly broken up...😢😢😢when Ratha shows the witness his fingers ( 3 )to remember....I wonder where are all justice ministers,experts ⚖️ lawyers to watch this ....embarrassing to the whole world 🌎 this accused are innocent on this case 😢😢😢😢
@belindamokoele8734
27 күн бұрын
On other words is that, this cellphone numbers cannot be forced to be used as the state evidence because there's a lot of concoctions with them, if the state is fair.
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
Now i can see why Judge President of Gauteng was not appointed to top post of Chief Justice. Things are getting out of hand here and he doesnt take any action to rectify the proceedings.
@MzamoHerbza
25 күн бұрын
As far as I am concerned, around 2015 (not sure when it was started) , on credit approval, car, clothes etc, they take your finger print, and a printout from Department of Home Affairs comes with the pic of the ID owner.
@everbote7858
27 күн бұрын
Ratha is shame and useless
@luthandovuso2006
25 күн бұрын
You quite right Clantis I also had the same sentiment about his clarification. Ratha is too doggy.
@cookieoakes6116
27 күн бұрын
Ratata so annoying in this cross examination. So obvious that he is covering up here. And making hand gestures to the witness helping them in answering questions.
@user-gt7yh6bh6l
27 күн бұрын
Ratha nd Baloyi are ĝang up against Msholi
@leaniemaart8935
26 күн бұрын
Hi Clantis. Yes Adv. Mshilolo was excellent. Smart, strong and intelligent lady. ❤
@makholimooi6467
27 күн бұрын
Morning Clan. I said yesterday Ratha's couching Gouws. He can see that Gouws is not a good liar. Then, the judge now is taking upon himself to guide him again. Unfortunately Advocate Msholololo can see through this rehearsal session. Ratha seems to be the director of this movie.
@valenciadube7790
25 күн бұрын
Ratha must just accept that this case it's too big for him....his cousing chaos in the court instead of him putting order in the court.
@marieklaaste9699
27 күн бұрын
They want ntanzi even he did not kill senzo how cruel can this rata be. He wil be dealth with although we dont know how GOD will do it. I step aside so our GOD get in😢
@Nhozanhoza
27 күн бұрын
Very painful 😢😢
@craybrancele8489
26 күн бұрын
Thier cookout has pots with holes, and Adv Mshololo exposed that further
@cookieoakes6116
27 күн бұрын
Good morning to you Clantis and the team. Thank you so much and Blessings always.
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
You can see that Baloyi has anointed himself with strong muti, but it doesnt seem to be effective. His wichdoctor promised him that he will make the defence to feel heavy and ultimately defeat them.
@thokojoyce3491
26 күн бұрын
Love you Advocate Mshololo❤
@EgnesiaHermanus
26 күн бұрын
You can hear hi voice that he's lying under the oath and this old judge allow this nonsense.Thank Mshololo to stand on your ground and tell this judge that you are not go to tarven.
@Lesiba91
25 күн бұрын
Hey, this your judge, yoh!!
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
Ratha is angry that the plan given by his mysterious handlers is not going well.
@kgothufokane7343
26 күн бұрын
Yooooh this judge😮
@gibsonzumbika704
26 күн бұрын
Ratha is a retired judge. He is an ancestor. Lets forgive him coz his software is not updating. He must just go back to the village where he belongs. His software is still set on apartheid era.
@Refiloesimango-fm6um
26 күн бұрын
How do you know Judge that Kelly has 5 number unless there is something you know we don't
@mhlonishwabiyase5532
27 күн бұрын
Rather now used to spoil the case , the guy too deliberate and any judgment won't be fair...
@uwaspsite2115
27 күн бұрын
It must be tiring to do your work when you are distracted like they are doing to Miss Mshololo.I really feel sorry for the defence.
@mxobhungane143
27 күн бұрын
Ratata is here to remind witnesses really sisekakeni bahlali, we have no justice system in South africa, this is Bananas republic 😮😂😂😂😂
@louisamaduna
27 күн бұрын
I believe they phone each other and discuss the case when having tea at their home. That's Ratha,Baloi and their unreliable witnesses.
@fezekagojela8731
27 күн бұрын
Kunjlo @louisamaduna*not even they catch up with 🥃
@octaviantombzodwatshabalal4531
26 күн бұрын
They meet in the board room with Gininda Baloyi and Ratha they are evil.Mshololo keep up your good work .God will see you through ❤
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
They secretly cooked wrong food but somehow Gouws saw ot backfiring. Ratha, the rat tried to help him but he still failed.
@reginahmutewera5563
27 күн бұрын
I was so shocked only Mr tarven and witness understand each other but us people we are confused Mr tarven you need to feel sorry
@matthewsmolefindaba4454
27 күн бұрын
🤗🤗🤗 welcome to Mzansi 😂😂😂yah neh 😢
@sibusisondlovu7663
26 күн бұрын
I think the mandate to Judge when he was appointed was that he should take over and make sure that he prosecute these guys no matter what. I can't believe he is leading and directing the witness and even speaking on his behalf.
@nokuzolangcangca8205
26 күн бұрын
Yhoo this presiding officer, is very disappointing, very concerning 😢
@tsakanimiyambo5931
26 күн бұрын
It's judge Rathatha's show. No justice for MEYIWA, his FAMILY and SOUTH AFRICA at large.
@MatshedisoKobo-kl1jm
20 күн бұрын
The audicity of this old man giving signals with his fingers to the witness seems he's even smoking zol. He can't even hide himself that he's bias and doesn't care whether the whole world is watching.
@TEE_MALATJI
25 күн бұрын
My issue is that we are watching . WE SEE
@auntieckmoyo3947
26 күн бұрын
Again what’s up calls are in App they use internet and the calls don’t come up on the call register . You can only see them in app or when you log in on desktop WhatsApp
@EdwardShongwe-zl3yb
27 күн бұрын
Abakhiphelekhehla Kanye nomganiwakhe uBaloi
@LandelwaHini
27 күн бұрын
Hi clantis tjooo you can see really behaviour of the judge that he used to be in tarven he's all over the place ungena mlonyen we witness woaw..what disgrace
@lehlohonolomokgata5612
27 күн бұрын
Greetings Clantis and the clan fam, FL where did Gouws get the gall to come and rectify his statement? This is reproach of note and some Thathatha is entertaining the him.. 🙆🏾♂️🙆🏾♂️🙆🏾♂️🙆🏾♂️
@octaviantombzodwatshabalal4531
26 күн бұрын
Shellfone has taken over from Stein he analyzes the info.why can't Baloyi allow him to read.These expert and analyst in SAPS with 4 weeks training are an embarrassment. SA.we are finished
@Mntungwa77
25 күн бұрын
The man should clearly have been allowed to enjoy his retirement at his favorite ‘tavern’. Why does Ratha take the state’s witness testimony as the gospel truth! Cross examination is meant to test the evidence he’s giving to assess his credibility, but the witness in a red robe keeps reminding him how he answered previously under evidence in chief and what he should say now under cross examination! I truly believe the judge carries a ‘nip’ of Johnny Walker in his lunchbox!
@thokojoyce3491
26 күн бұрын
U Gouws u Ratha bafakszelana no fakazi ongazi lutho bakithi bese ethi akakwazi ukufunda lakubhale omunye umuntu kanty uxofakazani.yooo u mkhulu akamhloniphi umuntu ongumama.umshololo u strong fr them.
@nellydee3065
26 күн бұрын
They attacked her to lose her cool and lose track of her cross examination But she controlled hrself pretty well Kube yimi i was gonna tell the judge to respect me as a official officer of the court, that also im not his kid in a class to talk to me anyhow " with all due respect"
@marieklaaste9699
27 күн бұрын
Why is he ther and not steyn. Gninda is very bzy he dont rest bcz his snake needs 2 be feed
@purpleraintrendz2654
25 күн бұрын
Tjo, the judge's fingers like leading the witness which accused number to mention???? No guys, how is this allowed? I also signed the petition, what's next. what do we do?
@ntandoyenkosicele5196
26 күн бұрын
By the way Advocate Baloyi tried with the WhatsApp call excuse but it doesn't cut it. WhatsApp only introduced calls in March 2015!! Eiy nkosiyami we need SABC to make a plan for the LIVE broadcast because we are at a very interesting stage bantu!
@keikantsengjoan9614
26 күн бұрын
Hi Clans, what see here is , the judge is judging the history of this accused not the truth of what hsppened on the 26.10. 2014 His 50 yrs experience is been useless all those yrs
@thandigloria3799
26 күн бұрын
😅😅maybabo, On point Gows❤
@gladnessmtshali6514
27 күн бұрын
U go Msho ubabambe ngobhongwane😂
@malebs8332
26 күн бұрын
I want to see Ratha at the tavern😂😂
@KkjHhh-jc6rt
26 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 when he drunk 😵
@user-wv2ti7ye1j
26 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@madimkhonzeseemela1841
25 күн бұрын
Umklape or umfake I two feet
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
My lord, i lisyen and write notes. My lord and Baloyi are out of order.
@ishmaeljustice4419
26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂The judge tried to signal bt Gouws couldn't see that, I believe they were angry with him,
@tshepometsi6607
27 күн бұрын
True @Clantis clearly the judge advised Baloyi at chambers to do this on the next day
@johnmokhethi942
27 күн бұрын
I am sorry to say this! If judge president is not part of this script, why can't he act on this messed up case
@mphosamokgwadi2447
27 күн бұрын
Brother this line of illuminates is too big to brake, it's a line of command that put Teffo behind the bars decision is already there to sentence those 5 replacement killers. Listen judge always ask how is it going to help the court when the defense say they will bring their witness meaning they have already decided.
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
My friends always laughed at me when 8 tell them that that rat visit taverns before going to court. Today, the rat confirmed this and even named Soweto as place were he goes to to take one , two or more before he comes to court.
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
I watched diffocult cases, that of OJ Simpson and recently, that of Oscar Pistorius. What a big difference between those two cases and this one of the rat and baloyi! Lets hear from the students and scholars of the law.
@gladnessmtshali6514
27 күн бұрын
Hi guys is Ratha helping the witness now wow this Judge mara😮
@PHAPHAMAMASEKOAMENG
26 күн бұрын
They 😅😅😅lost their ball after a thoroughly adviced by secret /unusual suspect RATHA/LIGHTNING 😂😂😂
@belindamokoele8734
27 күн бұрын
Gouws testimony failed period. It was a blander from the state. They never thought that this defence are clever, they will go through this one by one. Good from Mshololo, they must thourely check this things because they are cooked.
@claudiangwenya444
26 күн бұрын
Gouws is unclarifying 😂😂😂
@fezekagojela8731
27 күн бұрын
Hi clan am shore judge's of Mzantsi are embarrassed about what Ratatata is doing anyway am talking about the honest judges not the bribe ones,,undidikile lo Tata akasaboni nale judge who's handling AKA case that man listens attentively akayo Nyosi ngengo Ratatata kodwa 👏 hands for Mshololisto thetha nge tarven inguye oyenza court tarven Mlambo uyayibona lento qha skelms of ANC government
@ziblospo
27 күн бұрын
Babanjiwe o Baloyi ngamanga
@ntandoyenkosicele5196
26 күн бұрын
Hi Clan, I will not be surprised if Gouws pitches up with another "correction" affidavit on Monday regarding KK's number. Remember how the Chief Prosecutor kept insisting that she had 5 number?? Yes....they might say it was one of the other numbers without 205's!!!!! Of which still would not help them ke in any way 😂😂😂😂😂
@TebogoMaupye
26 күн бұрын
2014 ,there were no WhatsApp calls
@Refiloesimango-fm6um
26 күн бұрын
Petition is the only solution to remove the so called Judge, he really annoy me and i can't stand his rudeless behavior
@LekgobanaLEDWABA
26 күн бұрын
Court of 3 fingers
@madimkhonzeseemela1841
25 күн бұрын
The Vodacom lady who is coming to testify,Umgulugudu wakudala,,she was suspended for 3 years by Vodacom for her shenanigans like this,we waiting let her come and lie about duplicate numbers or whatsup which was not there in 2014
@KhawulezileMphaza
27 күн бұрын
Wow...he can't help himself guys ...the judge lol...
@og_media_za
24 күн бұрын
✅
@marupingthetele2635
26 күн бұрын
Have you ever noticed how Ratha's face just lights up whenever Baloyi objects? 😂 Wa glower shame. Love lives here vibes🤢🤮
@RosinaMoruane
26 күн бұрын
God reveals his action so we public can see .....lets keep praying one day he will stand up on that chair and statify unaware of himself 😢😢😢😢😢he will not act but preform...allegedly
@lindiwelindiwe6109
27 күн бұрын
Listen how rata forced Gouws not to remember things. Aaii rata is dangerous 😳.
@PHAPHAMAMASEKOAMENG
26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂you got it wrong clantis😂😂😂...it comes from the secret witness RATHA (LIGHTNING)😂😂😂, prosecutor in disguise, secret but😂😂😂now openly witness, furthermore biased judge😂😂😂
@user-xf1jx2dy9y
26 күн бұрын
Clan, the judge goes to Soweto taverns to get drunk and to learn court procedures. And the rat request the advocate to go to taverns to learn court procedures too. Where is mlambo, zondo and batohi. Lamola is also satisfied with proceedings.
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