Oh no I guess we weren’t sponsored by arctic today 😂
@nicola783
Жыл бұрын
..so EK 360 is better than arctic 420 because a faulty test with the arctic freezer?? you are saying nothing bro... answer is, arctic 420 is way better that the ek 360 for sure.. you just have to know how to test it... it termal throttle cuz you got paid to do so.... get lost dude
@bravium
Жыл бұрын
Yes , dude smells cash
@MsFearco
Жыл бұрын
so I'm not the only one seeing this :D
@redclaw72666
Жыл бұрын
Sound hella upset that artic coolerhas a bad pump lol it's hella slow
@syrex471
Жыл бұрын
Wow I see artic fan boy had gathered here
@yooanto9465
Жыл бұрын
I disagree I had arctic freezer 420II. It's bad with intel Lga1700. No matter what with 12900k the paste is not even and spread out to corners which is very bad. Even bought 2 contact frame. So now I'm tired and buying new cooler.
@Graygeezer
Жыл бұрын
As you pointed out, the Arctic Freezer test was not up to previous testing, so why did you use it for comparison without resolving that discrepancy? It just doesn’t seem like a valid comparison. If it EK wins in a fair comparison, great!
@kazuviking
Жыл бұрын
The test was not fair, the aios were oriented in the death position.
@StregKoden
7 ай бұрын
@@kazuviking was thnking the same for both things, but again if 360 doesn't win there is not much video.
@kristoffer3000
Ай бұрын
@@kazuviking Absolutely nothing wrong with that AIO orientation.
@cranialavulsion
Жыл бұрын
If you're going to test things do it right and keep the rad hose fittings lower than the pump. Good chance your pump is experiencing cavitation which will affect it's cooling...and can destroy the pump over time.
@Luckyslevens
8 ай бұрын
Agreed, the way he has those water pumps he has big air gaps where the water is supposed to be flowing. Also the girgling noise is because of the way he has it setup with the air gap and the pump sucking air. DO NOT instal your water pumps standing up in that direction unless you want to burn your computer up.
@oftheabyss3219
8 ай бұрын
@@Luckyslevensthat's not true, if the pump is in the head and the head is lower than the tube orifices it's fine.
@S1N1CAL
8 ай бұрын
@@Luckyslevens So in laymans terms, lay the AIOs flat on either the top or bottom of the case?
@Luckyslevens
8 ай бұрын
@@S1N1CAL That is the most ideal way to install them, best way is from top down which helps with gravity feed and maintain better flow rate.
@ghilliedupgamingandtech
8 ай бұрын
you have this backwards, the tubs being higher than the pump means air is not collecting in the pump. This is the correct orientation.
@STANS_HOBBIES
6 ай бұрын
I also chose the Artic Freezer II 420 mm and upgraded it with the NOCTUA NF-A14 iPPC-2000 PWM, which at 4.18 mmH²O produces almost twice the pressure at the same volume. The air flow rate per hour is 182.5 m³/h, which is around 50 m³/h higher compared to the original ARTIC fans. I use it to cool my INTEL 14900K and it's simply awesome. The thick cooler in combination with the powerful NOCTUA industrial fans is simply unbeatable. I have the power limit at 300 watts and am far from the 100 degree Celsius CPU limit. I also tested the EK Nucleus and wasn't happy with it because the pump is very loud and the fans aren't that great either. Even with the upgrade of the ARTIC FREEZER II with the NOCTUA fans, I paid 180 euros for it and the EK system cost me 200 euros. For my part, the EK NUCLEUS is not the better choice, because with the ARTIC cooling you get a cooling system that, with a small upgrade (comparatively still cheaper than the EK), delivers far better performance, because the cooler unit is just under 4 cm much thicker than EK's. The problem with the ARTIC cooling system is the fans, which generate too little pressure. Hence the upgrade to the NOCTUA fans and the result is, as I said, unbeatable. The EK lights up very nicely. All the best. STANS Hobbies.
@panipu
2 ай бұрын
How fast are you running your Noctuas? Do they get loud?
@STANS_HOBBIES
2 ай бұрын
@@panipu At full load, the Noctuas run at 75% of their speed. At idle, they run at around 20%. Of course, they are also audible, but only from around 80%. It also depends on whether the case is on or under the table.
@STANS_HOBBIES
2 ай бұрын
@@panipu But I have now found a more effective solution for cooling my 14900k that is even quieter. There is also a video on my channel about it.
@panipu
2 ай бұрын
@@STANS_HOBBIES Imma check it out. But I just bought me the 420 and I got like 6 NF14 laying round haha
@TacticoolNinja
Жыл бұрын
Don’t need an AIO currently. However the quality and care in the EK packaging is enough to make me purchase for future build. I’m all about supporting companies who go the extra distance!
@Wolfiecolada
Жыл бұрын
on the arctic kit, there are 2 size standoffs, i think 14mm and 13mm. did you use the correct ones? they look so very similar.
@bobg3034
10 ай бұрын
You tech guy always make the same mistake! Put the inlet/outlet of your AIO down and not up.
@AustnTok
Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the Arctic was hindered by the tubes being on top.
@torkalovolodymyr5097
5 ай бұрын
Tubes on top is fine untill pump is lower ran top of radiator. Bubbles will be on input side of radiator. Not in output.
@jannmuller4414
Жыл бұрын
The pump noise Is normal at first, since the Air has been shaken up while shipping. It will stop in a few days
@MelroyvandenBerg
4 ай бұрын
Make sense
@bretthake7713
Жыл бұрын
2:20 ugh this is EXACTLY what my 13900k is doing with a Noctua NH-C14S - I hit 37000 on a good day but always throttle within about 15sec. I've tried new paste/reseating the cooler twice. Now running with 2x140mm cooler fans, plus 2x140mm and 6x120mm case fans, all Noctuas. Tonight I manually put all fans at 100%, opened every panel on my case, and blew a box fan straight at it with the window open and no difference. I came to this video because I'm convinced I can't cool this thing with air at all. I'm losing my mind. Tonight CPU package hit 105 while trying to export 3hr-1080p video from Davinci so I killed the job... I just don't understand, I've been adding/upgrading fans for a month. Might just buy one of these coolers and be done with it. Great video though lol
@VanillaWahlberg
Жыл бұрын
300W isn't really easily cooled by just air alone, especially in that package size.
@ThatOneGuyC
9 ай бұрын
The problem is that you're using a low profile air cooler for a 13900k 🤦, did you expect it to be able to cool one of the hottest CPU's? You need a premium air cooler at minimum - like the Deepcool AK620/ Assassin IV or the Noctua NH-D15, or you could go with the Deepcool LT720 360, which is a budget friendly 360mm AIO cooler which can definitely handle a 13900k.
@bretthake7713
9 ай бұрын
@@ThatOneGuyC honestly I didn't know this was "low profile", I just bought what the store had at the time. Also the timing of your comment is ironic because I just ordered a D15 last week lol. Hopefully will be enough and if not I'll sell them both and go for the AIO like you suggested. Thanks for the heads up
@ThatOneGuyC
9 ай бұрын
@@bretthake7713 The AIO I suggested is also quite loud at the higher fan RPM's so an arctic liquid freezer II 360 may be better but I do personally find it's waterblock quite ugly so I'd have a look at it yourself.
@paulking4908
Жыл бұрын
I've looked up more reviews of this newest EK online, and it looks like the Arctic freezer ii AIO finishing lower in the rankings of AIO reviews. Seems the competition has caught up and passed the Arctic liquid freezer ii. The Arctic liquid freezer ii needs a immediate update.
@apotato5563
Жыл бұрын
Well looking at performance nzxt, deepcool and ek may win but on noise to performance arctic still wins. Arctic is kinda the noctua of aio's. Yes there are better options but with silence they win
@techbuildspcs
Жыл бұрын
@@apotato5563literally swap the fans.
@techbuildspcs
Жыл бұрын
@@Kyvrofn if 140mm the be quiet 4 Pros, if 120mm either noctua a12x25s or t30s
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
The only way that is possible is that the others are running a much faster and louder fan speed. I have both and I know that to be the case. The Arctic still gives the best performance at the quietest level. I use their fans in my custom loop for that very reason - and I've tested many fans and AIO - properly ;)
@kayboo5835
8 ай бұрын
@@apotato5563you're 💯 Performance, noise levels and price, Arctic is a great choice, you can't go wrong. Ek and Lt720 might bring temps a little lower but they can be loud as hell
@josephgrobler2332
Жыл бұрын
The DeepCool LT720 is also quite impressive, I have it installed with my 13900k. I do visual effects and with a full core work load and Unlimited TJ max, its never thermal throttled. The EK looks amazing though!
@lukaskucerik3751
Жыл бұрын
I Will go for it for my 13900ks thanks man!
@josephgrobler2332
Жыл бұрын
@@lukaskucerik3751 it looks great as well!
@jafaralshammaa
Жыл бұрын
Does it hit 40k score on Cinebench R23? I want to take it for i9 13900k but im not sure if it is good
@josephgrobler2332
Жыл бұрын
@@jafaralshammaa yes, highest i got was 40500. My aio came with preapplied thermal paste, if yours doesnt then make sure to apply your thermal paste well.
@IskanderVFX
Жыл бұрын
@@jafaralshammaa depending, single run mine makes 41k+ now 10 minutes it's only 39.5 k +- but well I don't know too much about cinebench and aios, this is my first aio, and that pc is rendering about 10 to 15pc faster than the other with a pa120se while making less noise
@stefan_es
Жыл бұрын
guys, please help me. What AIO to get for 12600k and 13600k? My PC case is Lancool III. I choose between LS720 and Freezer ii 420. I want the system to work quietly even when the processor is overclocked. Can the LS720 achieve 60-70°C at 900-1200 RPM fan speeds? Above it will be noisy, as far as I understand. Or in that case to take LFii420?
@FutureVegan
9 ай бұрын
Good video and good review. Between the EK Nucleus CR360 LUX (151€ with no leds or 181€ with leds) and the Deepcool LT720 (120€) which one would you pick for a i9 13900k?
@kayboo5835
8 ай бұрын
I had 2 lt720's and while they performed good, they carked it. The first one in 3 months and the next one in a month, so I decided to get the EKWB Nucleus CR360 Dark and it hasn't skipped a beat! Both these models can get pretty loud so recommend you tune the fans to your needs.
@David-nd4to
Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the h170i? It’s more than half price. I’m not really so interested in the gimmicky lcd but performance
@skandats
Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how these AIOs work on AMD 7000 series as their chiplets are located at lower end of the CPU package and Arctic has offset mount which makes the cold plate lay directly on top of chiplets.
@ander1482
Жыл бұрын
Yep i have seen 4 degrees better thermals with the offset mounting
@MelroyvandenBerg
4 ай бұрын
Maybe look at the alphacool eisbaer pro aurora 420 (notice the Pro).
@MikeZak101
Жыл бұрын
why pump so much wattage into the cpu, i get the same 40000+ R23 score at 270w, 81c max, nothing special about my cpu it's just an average 13900k on a corsair 420 AIO. If you power your cpu correctly you will most likely have the same performance from both AIO's
@ChrisDaytrader
Жыл бұрын
Is there a good article on the web or video that can show me how on my 13900K, i hear alot about people changing settings/lowering voltage and getting same results, thx
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
@@ChrisDaytrader YT Skatterbencher has many with like 4 or 5 different way to do it.
@ChrisDaytrader
11 ай бұрын
@@RKBenchmarker Ok, thx for your time to reply, cheers
@RomanGrigorenko
6 ай бұрын
Hello 👋 I wonder how this compares to the new Lian Li Galahad II? ASUS ROG RYUJIN III 360? what do you think will cool the i913900k better? what do you recommend LIAN LI GALAHAD II LCD or EKWB EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux D-RGB ?
@Ilestun
Жыл бұрын
Commenting after 3 minutes, the AIO is bad mounted. The cables on rad side are on top...........I suggest to watch Gamer's Nexus video on how to mount AIOs. Totally flawed test. Your pump is doing more noise because there is air in the circuit. Remember what Air bubbles do in the water.....
@s9be14
Жыл бұрын
there's no way brother you need to re test this with LGA 1700 Anti-Bending Buckle thx!
@meppie1922
7 ай бұрын
The Arctic 420 is a better cooler than the EKWB 360.. The mounting is the problem here. I have an Arctic 240 aRGB and i am not thermal throttling when i run CB23.. I also have an thermalright contact frame which makes it even better.
@panosru
4 ай бұрын
I would like to see a similar comparison with Liquid Freezer 3 now that it is out.
@R055LE.1
Жыл бұрын
I recently removed a 9 year old AIO from my old rig and replaced with a deepcool something 500. Years of service are definitely limited, but with these new CPUs you might just have to be willing to replace the cooler sooner.
@ApeX2411
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this great video. I think I have now found the perfect AIO for my 13900KF. Is there any reason why I should buy a 420 mm instead of a 360 mm if I could fit both? And could you provide some more insight about the longevity of the AIO? I just recently read a review where, after about 6 months, the pump died and that the EK support wasn't helpful at all. This makes me a bit hesitant to buy the AIO right now.
@TheRealLawnFather
Жыл бұрын
I have the same EK Aio. It makes that sound about once a month if I let it sit for a week but maybe for 30 seconds and it’s gone. My Asus ai OC to 6.0 on my 13700k had never broke 90c. It’s an insane AIO, everyone should definitely buy one.
@syrex471
Жыл бұрын
how watts it used when you text it because i thinking to buy it too
@mrcrackerist
Жыл бұрын
he has the AIO in the wrong position the tubes should be down, source gamers nexus.
@chrisc4843
5 ай бұрын
What’s recommended for 14900K with a 4090? 360 or 420
@michaelac3790
Жыл бұрын
If there is a large air pocket in the Arctic cooler that orientation will reduce flow rate... Orienting the radiator so that the in and output are at the bottom or underside should have resolved that issue assuming an airpocket was the cause.
@RReinu
Жыл бұрын
That was 100% the issue!
@torkalovolodymyr5097
5 ай бұрын
@@RReinuno. Bubbles are on input side. They cannot travel down to bottom and to output. It affects only bubbling noise, not performance
@UNDERGROUNDHITRADIO
Жыл бұрын
brother sucking air in his pump so yeah, readings are off...
@quantino1611
Жыл бұрын
my nzxt z73 360mm cant run i9 13900k at stock bios it hits 100c even with contact frame.. should i get a different cooler? if so which one. Idc about getting a new case to fit a bigger cooler if necessary. Edit i managed to fix it in the bios and the score i get is 40.5k pts with the max temps of 90C at 282W.
@zingwilder9989
Жыл бұрын
Well, EK AIO's are known to provide excellent cooling results. Also, I may be asking a silly question, but were you using a contact frame for the CPU?
@theTechNotice
Жыл бұрын
nope, I wasn't, which means there's even more performance on the table...
@zingwilder9989
Жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice Thank you.
@JedGBC
2 ай бұрын
That radiator is in a bad position, if you place it vertically the hoses should come out from below and not from above. The air that passes to the pump is concentrated. Check out the tests done by other reviewers. That's why you have issues.
@shadowarez1337
7 ай бұрын
The arctic has a ton of Standoffs for the 1700kit.
@MITTEN_MAGIC
Жыл бұрын
The pump noise sounded to me a bit like air bubbles
@henrytoler5023
Ай бұрын
I tried the EK 360 the noise from pump sounded like a bering going out of a motor
@MelroyvandenBerg
4 ай бұрын
Please, retest this again with the alphacool eisbaer pro aurora 420, which is meant for threadripper (so large dies).
@Mephistocbrxx11
6 ай бұрын
i have a nzxt cracken 360 on a 14900k and in a 10 min stres test in cinebench r 23 my max temp. was 87 at 300 w pl1 and pl 2 all time so......is nzxt god or what?
@Leon-Belmont
Жыл бұрын
one question, is this one better than the EKWB AIO CPU Cooler Elite 360, 360mm Radiator? i saw that one in amazon and keep me thinking xd
@UporaFilms
Жыл бұрын
Its about fracking time someone did this comparison!!!!
@zGRYed
9 ай бұрын
Will the Aio 360 or 420 be much better than the Dark Rock Pro 4 for the 7800x3d?
@kayboo5835
8 ай бұрын
I have the EKWB Nucleus CR360 Dark on the 7950x3d and it has no issues cooling it and has never thermal throttled, even in benchmark tests like cinebench. Quality cooler but can get loud when all cores are used when editing
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
"?Can you get 420 performance out of a 360 AIO?" Sure you can if you want to go deaf! Also, with the issues you were having with that single Arctic sample (even you noted that something was wrong and it was not performing like the one in your editing system), you should never have released this video as it was not at all accurate! I have both of those AIOs and recently ran 4 days worth of extensive tests on them using 3 different cpus (7800x3d, 7950x, and the 13900ks) comparing them against each other and my custom loop. Between the 2 AIOs, the Arctic not only had slightly better temps and held them longer, it was also SIGNIFICANTLY quieter! And a hundred dollars cheaper (the non-rgb version)! Note that since the Arctic has only one pwm fan connector that runs everything (the pump, the vrm fan, and the 3 140mm fans), if you had the mobo's cpu fan header set to auto in the bios (instead of max), you will not get accurate readings. This is not the same with the EK AIO because it has a separate connector for the pump, which will run it at the proper speed if you used the AIO/pump mobo header. Since you didn't share any of that info with us, we have no idea what you are doing! I know how much time and effort these tests take (not even counting filming and editing), and I do greatly appreciate it; but when something is so very wrong, it really does need to be pointed out as people use these findings to make buying decisions. Though the EK is a very good AIO, the Arctic 420 is even better and much much quieter! Hope this is helpful to someone. Keep on benching :)
@jadeprinces
Жыл бұрын
From what i see i don't have to worry if this ek will cool my new build. Did you tested it while running some games what temps did you get and how loud was that pump did it stopped after awhile or was it the same?
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
Those pumps don't make any noise; he had air in them and it cleared out. And he should be the one taking the time to answer the questions that his subs took the time to write!
@errr9408
Жыл бұрын
After lowering the rpm (40/50%), the pump is still audible?
@falconerri
Жыл бұрын
Pump is totally inaudible below 1000rpm.
@sabishiihito
Жыл бұрын
I've seen my 13900KS pull almost 400w in R23 on an EVGA Z690 Dark, though I'm on 360mm custom water.
@rocketr2
Жыл бұрын
I have a z690 Kingpin but don't understand all the bios features. What settings would you recommend for overclocking a 13900k?
@smamas114
6 ай бұрын
0.5% its not big of a deal to spend extra $ for the AIO and the case because you do need a big enclosure for a 420mm AIO !!
@philindeblanc
5 ай бұрын
your room is the temp ceiling, and yuour temp showed 2c more after the first cooler
@arturscherbakov2543
8 ай бұрын
Pump sound says about air bubbles inside.
@Rayu25Demon
Жыл бұрын
6:50 that the sound of coffee machine hhhhh
@tekimchhay6802
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for video ! But I do have a question for creator , should we go with AIO or an Air cooler for long-term used?
@theTechNotice
Жыл бұрын
Aircooler is probably more 'professional' choice and more hassle free :)
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
@@theTechNotice I am a profession graphic designer and creator, and I definitely use liquid cooling (AIO and custom loop). I do not like the size and weight of an air cooler, but more importantly, one of the biggest advantages of liquid is when a cpu is under load for an extended time, the liquid cooler will allow the cpu to run at a higher frequency much longer than the air cooler. The air cooler will have to significantly lower the cpu speed to compensate for the higher temps once running for just a few minutes. Something to consider.
@AndreiHristow
6 ай бұрын
Interesting, curious and impressive I don't really care about pump display, but cooling capacity, noise and good performance Could this be a good alternative to the Artic 420? According to this video yes. To be honest, I came across exactly the video I was looking for, to compare Artic 420 with EK 360 Because I have few disappointments with Artic 420
@lukaskucerik3751
Жыл бұрын
Nice Intel sweatshirt btw TG cryonaut (or kryonaut) extreme paste can maybe resolve that little thermal issue
@johncra8982
Жыл бұрын
Is the liquid freezer 420 not compatible with a Z790 hero motherboard? Pcpartpicker keeps telling me that it may not fit ☹️
@Emyrtemoc
5 ай бұрын
Means you need a bigger case since the cooler is big
@wowyarkan
Жыл бұрын
How can you say 100c with thermal throttle is fine? It's clearly not fine is it
@marcuscasagrande7596
6 ай бұрын
So basically no one can run an 13900K with its full potential without a custom liquid cooler: Not even a 420 AIO can make it run for even 10 min at 100% speed. Thats a bit odd to learn, since I just bought a 14900K. I THINK im gonna undervolt/clock it a little to avoid high temps. Also im getting the LGA 1700 thermal backplate to help cooling too.
@kazuviking
23 күн бұрын
Except the 420 arctic aio was not fitted correctly in this video.
@alexsp7086
Жыл бұрын
FINALLY a clear 13900k tested on the new coolers your a god send.
@LS_1994
11 ай бұрын
Do you think it's safe to run my i9 13900k that does thermal throttle all the time onec it get full load?
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
It is safe, but will not give you as good performance if it were not throttling. You can research different ways to avoid that.
@XVIIsionsProductions
Жыл бұрын
but also, your setup with the tubes at the top is not the best way to do it, you're introducing air into the pump. Air is sitting at the top of the radiator right at the inlet/outlet tubes...
@torkalovolodymyr5097
5 ай бұрын
Bubbles collect only on inlet. They cannot travel to outlet. So no air in pump anyway
@HiQualityH2O
Жыл бұрын
That was air trying to escape the pump
@johnnymetonymic
10 ай бұрын
Just returned my 420 today. The ONLY case that can support it and my ATX motherboard is $600.
@Juampii_Sanchez
Жыл бұрын
Hola! Estos AIO son mejores que el Corsair H170i?
@sabyasacheebanik6018
Жыл бұрын
Impressive...Can you review the fractal s36 radiator also??
@maesthro8715
Жыл бұрын
Would also like to see
@zette4273
Жыл бұрын
hey can you slighly increase fps in cameras pointed at you? feels weird to watch
@theTechNotice
Жыл бұрын
Curious, you a gamer or creator? :)
@jamieknight326
Жыл бұрын
Heyo, something feels really broken on this upload. The frame rate is displaying oddly and the audio and video are out of sync.
@zette4273
Жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice gamer, and trying to be a photographer
@latataie
8 ай бұрын
It's a shame with an experienced youtuber, he makes this mistake - mounting with the tubes up where the water enters and exits the radiator (the radiator mounted vertically in the position in the clip). Any radiator is not filled 100%, and thus leaves the pump on the processor without water close. Pity, and obviously inconclusive tests, useless in fact. Hence the thermal trotilling. Sorry for the work done. I hope you retake the tests properly. Only good. No offense.
@washedboi
Ай бұрын
It doesnt matter as much as you make it out to be.
@TheGameBench
Жыл бұрын
Impressive... now I'm curious how well the previous gen of EK AIOs compares to this new one.
@treyquattro
Жыл бұрын
EK has a reputation as one of the best cooler manufacturers in the industry. They're probably better known for their open loop cooling solutions but they've been making AIOs for years also.
@TheGameBench
Жыл бұрын
@@treyquattro Yep, I'm aware. I've bought several AIOs from EK. Two of my builds are running EK AIOs right now.
@treyquattro
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench you could probably do the comparison ;-)
@eriknastovski1330
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench hope you're happy with those :)
@truth_hearts_1940
10 ай бұрын
how about you flip those massive 140 mm fans to match EK orientation and retest?
@zxSwifty
11 ай бұрын
Was interested in buying this but that pump noise absolutely kills it.
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
I have both. Neither one have any noise. His did because he had air getting into the pump, which cleared out after awhile. BTW, the Arctic is much quieter and performs a bit better.
@ananthums8970
Жыл бұрын
Is there a worthy difference btwn 360 vs 240mm aio ?
@Gamer-q7v
Жыл бұрын
360MM AIOs have a much larger surface area, so it will be a lot more effective at dissipating heat. And with three fans on 360MM, they won't need to work as hard as two fans on 240MM, so they can run at a lower RPM, meaning less noise and better cooling than 240MM. There might not be a big difference between them in regular workloads, but in heavy demanding workloads, and if you plan to overclock your PC, a 360MM would be significantly better.
@MagDag_
Жыл бұрын
I'm who returned 360 and got a 420mm with huge Thermaltake double case ))) My point was to make it quite as possible.
@asmongoldsmouth9839
8 ай бұрын
*For AIO coolers, NZXT usually pulls 1st place in a benchmark. Corsair usually pulls 2nd place. EK makes the best graphics card water block. But they are new to AIO coolers. Idk if they are good, yet. But GamerNexus, der8auer and other PC tech channels with laboratories have proven this. Time and time again.*
@matthewhanson498
7 ай бұрын
I just got a nzxt kraken 360 on that logic and it thermal throttles in half a second, full push pull config. Already tried reapplying the thermal paste. Only a 12900k too so I don’t know what to think
@cszulu2000
6 ай бұрын
Does the back of the mb get hot too?
@physxme
Жыл бұрын
Arctic every day...😏
@himanshudangwal9838
11 ай бұрын
which one would be better for the ryen 5000 series i have a 5950 x
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
I've ran both AIOs, and also have that cpu. The Arctic actually performs slightly better and is much quieter!
@MrSubMD
7 ай бұрын
how is this even legit only 315 watts? i can almost hit 400 watts....
@wesme9948
Жыл бұрын
Nice job comparing these two. Just wondering, what thermal paste was used on the Arctic?
@theTechNotice
Жыл бұрын
Arctic MX6 :)
@rindrasi
Жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice thanks and what thermal paste for EK?
@derptweaker945
Жыл бұрын
Cool i'm going for the EK its great they are doing AIO's now i used to buy there blocks and stuff for custom water cooling way back.
@ekolog1966
Жыл бұрын
How long have they been doing it, I have had this model for more than 5 years EKWB PREDATOR 360
@derptweaker945
Жыл бұрын
@@ekolog1966 Im probably not that updated xD about 20 years ago i built a custom loop.
@ComanderWins
5 ай бұрын
This is because he has front mounted tubes up thats why the IO not doing the job.
@tbas8741
5 ай бұрын
what do you mean by floor level? why would you put the radiator on the floor (floor is where people walk and lots of dust)
@ComanderWins
5 ай бұрын
ah sorry, Im mean front mount tubes down. he has the artic in wrong position front mount tubes up. @@tbas8741
@BDTennessee
Жыл бұрын
Awesome AIO! Got one on my 13600k...
@donh8833
Жыл бұрын
You can't switch CPU sockets with coolers. Once they are mated they deform slightly to the shape of the CPU lid shape. So no switching from am5 to Intel 1700. And I hope you are using the mounting plate shim and not the default clamp mechanism.
@donstor1
10 ай бұрын
They are going to have to build chips with larger interfaces with the AIO in order for better heat transfer, or something to get a handle on this heat problem with CPU’s. Even if you can get the temps down so that they don’t shut down, running these things that hot all of the time will shorten the life considerably.
@NaterFernat
11 ай бұрын
You are killing the pump due that you installed the radiator with the in out at the top
@dktraveller8364
Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for a great series of videos. I would appreciate your opinion. I'm thinking of a Fractal Define 7 Compact, i9-13900k, rtx3070 Ti, Asus proart mobo with several m.2 ssds.I'm a photo editor primarily with Lr and Ps with some light 4k vacation video editing in Davinci Resolve. No gaming. I have a hearing disorder and want a very quiet build. Can I get away with air cooling the CPU in such an air flow restricted case? Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks again.
@zombizombi
Жыл бұрын
Everything I've seen suggests you are better off with AIO for 13900k. I'm only getting a 13700k and I'm considering the Arctic LF 420. It seems you can't go overboard with cooling.
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
I have both of those AIOs and a custom loop. The Arctic 420 performed a bit better in my 4-day testing and was much quieter! Hope that is helpful.
@indecision788
9 ай бұрын
Just an ad for the EK Cooler. not worth your time ppl.
@CitizenTechTalk
10 ай бұрын
Clearly your 420mm AIO is faulty. And you really should have replaced it and done the comparison tests properly. This was a completey floored test in everyday. Almost like EK sponsored you 🤔😉. Hmmm I think this need a revisit by maybe another KZitemr with the same hardware yes? Someone who's not sponsored by EK.
@heyguyslolGAMING
9 ай бұрын
Possibly but I also tried a 420 LF2 and the cooling was bad to say the least. I sent it back and went back to my normal Corsair 360 which beat it easily by 10C. If mine was faulty that just says they have QC issues which isn't a selling point. I thought id try it since Steve Gamers Nexus is always shilling for them. I'm gonna try this new EK w/ my ITX build in a Corsair 2000D as it seems legit.
@CitizenTechTalk
9 ай бұрын
@@heyguyslolGAMING really, wow! It's such a large surface area as well. Oh well there you go and yeah usually gamers nexus are pretty pragmatic, but in this case yeah. Thanks for the info!
@bronsondixon4747
Жыл бұрын
Crap, now these won’t stay in stock anymore for when I need to get one. It’s by far the best AIO on the market.
@algorak5604
Жыл бұрын
Which one you mean?
@ErnestJay88
Жыл бұрын
If there's a case that support 600mm (5x 120mm fans) or 700mm (5x 140mm fans) i bet there will be 600mm/700mm AIO, even thought most consumer CPU doesn't need more than 240mm radiator, 280 or 360mm if you are permanently overclocking and overvolting your CPU, only HEDT Platform like Threadripper that needs bigger radiator.
@treyquattro
Жыл бұрын
that packaging: it has to be one expensive AIO. Car manufacturers are going to be getting ideas on how to rinse more money from punters for their radiators! My latest Z590/i7-11700K (not a cool-running CPU!) build is using a 280mm Arctic Liquid Freezer II non-ARGB and it's working great. Very low temps running prime95 & Cinebench etc. stress tests: temps have been low 80s max (ambient is still kind of cold here however). I'm very impressed. I've been using Noctua air coolers on AMD builds and AIOs on Intel and the Arctic is performing excellently and is much quieter than the Noctuas to boot! I favor cases without glass sides: I made one PC with ARGB and decided no more. It's great to look at for about 5 minutes and then becomes an expensive irrelevance. I'd much rather have the performance at a lower price and put the saved money to something like a better GPU (or just a GPU in the modern era!)
@paulking4908
Жыл бұрын
I think one of the things that hurts the Arctic liquid freezer ii is the pump speed is only 2000 RPMs where as the EKWB pump speed is at 3100 RPMs. Also, the Arctic liquid freezer to fans top out at only 1,900 RPMs. I'm wondering if replacing those fans with 2000 RPM fans will make a difference. I would like to see Arctic increase the pump speed to 2700 RPM.
@haies09
Жыл бұрын
Replace the fans with Noctua 😊
@kayboo5835
8 ай бұрын
But it has the volume with that thicker radiator 😊
@paulking4908
8 ай бұрын
@@kayboo5835 Yes but these newer radiators are leaving Arctic behind. They are outperforming the Arctic radiators.
@kayboo5835
8 ай бұрын
@@paulking4908 I've had both, and Arctic do a great job, it's quiet, performs, and can be had at a great price. A great all round cooler. I currently have the EKWB Nucleus CR360 Dark, and it definitely performs too, but is on the louder side. The pump on the Ek does make a faint whining buzzing type sound, where the Arctic is super quiet. Can't go wrong with either but I prefer the Ek once the fan curves are adjusted to my needs. I've tried a friend's noctua fans on the Ek and while it didn't really decrease temps, it certainly made the pc quiter so I'll probably look into that later on as I'm not really getting into "loud" territory with my setup. I had the LT720's which also perform and are great value but the pump carked it within 3 months and the next one within a month! Fingers crossed that I don't have issues with the Ek 🤞
@maxzoRHD
Жыл бұрын
So even with the best aio you still get a 100c ? Whats the point of a cpu that overheats on rendering 1 frame ? Shouldnt intel think about that stuff before releasing a product ?
@theTechNotice
Жыл бұрын
It's not Intel, It's the motherboards that run it past the PL1 and Pl2 limits :)
@Lonestar166
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thanks for posting. You have a new subscriber. I picked the EKWB Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux to install in the ROG Hyperion case. Glad to see I made the right choice.
@myrirr
Жыл бұрын
does push/pull affect the results too?
@bravium
Жыл бұрын
No, money waste
@johnbernhardtsen3008
Жыл бұрын
I got a Deepcool Gamaxx 360L v2, dang its rgb fans are noisy! put on some Arctic fans and no more noise!even tried diff fan presets on my Aorus Elite mobo!
@pgsnider2000
Жыл бұрын
you forgot to test the ek 360 with a high performance thermal paste >(
@najeebshah.
Жыл бұрын
theres an issue with your arctic cooler for sure. my 13900k has yet to throttle in rendering like that on my 420
@lonelymtbrider3369
10 ай бұрын
6:54 that's air bubbles in the pump
@lecookie4396
6 ай бұрын
EK pump head looks awful to me and i'd just not recommend it , i wish it look prettier
@zMeul
Жыл бұрын
need to take into consideration the EK CR360 is much more expensive and one other thing: never mount AIOs tubes side up, either mount it tubes down and if not possible, mount it in the ceiling
@losttryhardyt3671
8 ай бұрын
EK 360mm AIO 210€ ARCITC 420mm 118€
@mrrexy4151
Жыл бұрын
Hm, interesting...it seems like contract plate have a big role of thermal dissipation
@Darryl.Harris
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe no one has addressed that big a$# elephant sitting in the corner over there. Everybody sees it, but no one wants to talk about it. When I'm about to put liquid INSIDE my computer case, the only thing that matters is whether the coolant is conductive.
@dirkdisselpuff7938
11 ай бұрын
Why are thes tests performed with the Cooler upside down ? Having the Water Pipes in standing above the CPU is a critical test Environment Mistake, air bubbles are going to form on the in take out take pipes instead of the cooling fins or the combined water tank on the other side of the Radiator. This is just asking for thermal Trouble. Why not test the System horizontal with the Radiator above the the Pump as the System is designed to function ? This Test is just pointless and misleading.
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
Though I agree with you, and ran my tests with the tubes at the bottom to avoid such, technically the position of the rads is ok because the highest point of the rad is higher than the pump. So, the air should stay there (at the top of the rad) and never make it downhill to the pump. There is a lot of misunderstanding about this and though GN tried to explain it, many were still confused. The air rises to the highest point, so the pump just needs to be lower than that point (and it is). But I still wouldn't run it like that ;)
@dirkdisselpuff7938
11 ай бұрын
@@RKBenchmarker GN labeled your Testing Setup as a critical Mistake. The Rad is either completly above the Pump or the Rad is installed with the Pipes down and the Water Combination Tank above the Pump. AIO will go the way of the Dodo pretty fast in the way you have it Setup especially with higher Temp CPUs. Within a Standard Test that is making little Difference, but for the quality of your Testing Process it behooves you to not make this sort of visual Blunder, your Viewers might think you have a laxx attitude about the Rest of your Test Setup that might invalidate your Results even more. With everything Technical the Details are important and it would be sad for your Channel not to grow since your Präsentation was realy good. End of Line
@RKBenchmarker
11 ай бұрын
@@dirkdisselpuff7938 Did you get to see JayzTwoCents video where he explained further about GN video and the misunderstanding about the rad positioning? As long as the highest point of the rad is above the pump, air cannot travel DOWNWARDS. However, I agree with you that to eliminate any confusion, he should have had the tubes at the bottom; that is how I test ;)
@dirkdisselpuff7938
11 ай бұрын
@@RKBenchmarker my experience with AIO configs Is that this particular Setup and Argument results in a reduction lifespan to mostly 6 to 8 Months. It is all about the Air Bubbles. It Is irrelevant If some Part of the Rad Is above the Pump If that Part Is NOT the Water Combination Tank. Since Bubbles there are Not only irrelevant but the Designed Place to exist for Maximum Lifespan of the AIO. Furthermore what Is even more destructive for the weakest Point of any AIO, the Pump, interrupted or unsteady Waterflow created from Bubbles in the In/Out Seperation Tanks Is a slow Death for AIO Pumps. The Problem Is that AIO Pumps in the current Design should Not exist since they lack almost every Security Feature regular Water cooling Pumps have onboard. That entails a horrid waterflow measurement System and NO possibility to make Air Bubbles go puff or expand your Rads without having to buy a Second Pump. Oh yes alphacool only tells you when you purchase a Second AIO cooling Rad that you have to buy a Second Pump because the Main AIO Pump does Not have the Power to service another Rad, increasing the Price and difficulty in installment. The alphacool Rad enhacment ability Is nothing but a Marketing Gag and only exists to skyrocket the Price for an AIO and put it in the Same Range of a regular Water cooling System that has all the Security and Lifespan Not to mention Superior Cooling Power. Include the Design Fact of short Water Pipes, that forces you to buy pricy Extensions makes the AIO alphacool Systems a No Go, add terrible Pumps , that Is because of AIO Sitze constraint and Basic Design, resulting in a reduced Lifespan because most Users have sadly zero Idea about installment and only Go with "it has to look good" and Trust the watercooling Myths. For myself the above get's me a ton of Business and that Is why i actually have Zero Problems with AIO testings that are technically correct but factually a Death Sentence in the Long Run. But hey i make my Money with People doing their own Research and People Not able to plan 2 Weeks ahead. End of Line.
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