These older videos need editing to put disclaimers to link to updated review on oil. Almost bought Daryland for premier but noticed the newer video.
@DTOM76
4 жыл бұрын
I put the TP in a coffee filter before pushing it in. That keeps TP particles out of the clean oil.
@CapitanFantasma1776
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@arthurwalls9091
3 жыл бұрын
Just watched a slick video that did not use toilet paper which will start degrading at some point ...She used a coffee filter to fit in the down tube & stuffed it full of those round cotton makeup pads , she stuffed the coffee filter til it looked like a cylinder then shoved in into the down tube til she bottomed out with it then proceeded to stuff more in until the tube was completely full..... Looked like the slickest , best & most efficient Jerry-rigged filter I've seen so far ...I read one comment where a guy was looking for a different filter than the TP one he was using coz it looked like his TP was degrading & showing up in his filtered oil ...... These woven cotton pads look like they are a real good solution ...Seems like they filter just fine coz it takes a while for the oil to gravitate through ...
@4thllamaofthealpacolypse712
4 жыл бұрын
Now I see why everyone has bought all te toilet paper since this video came out 😉
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
😂
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
gotta filter that oil!
@FrancisR420
4 жыл бұрын
Literally have the exact pitcher i got it for $5 at goodwill I used 2 cheese cloths in case tolet paper has any additives. They fit tight as a far to small glove and comes out clear and bright.
@em2012ish
4 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thanks for sharing! I always tilt my pump at the end with a separate container to catch the water that will make its way into your oil. You have to tilt it because it separates and settles at the bottom of the pump.
@ot505
4 жыл бұрын
I keep a little block of wood next to my pump to put under the back to tilt it..
@richardfuller2326
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the water seems to stay in the toilet paper. If you put the whole pitcher in your freezer, it will freeze the water in the paper and in the bottom of the oil (if any) and the paper will lift out of the container easily! I can get 3 filters out of one paper roll. This system works great!
@jazbuilding
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. In the 1970's that tip was common in magazines like Mother Earth News for filtering engine oil. These days I wouldn't consider for an automobile, as it's the additives in engine oil that gives it its performance, and the additives degrade with use and time. It would be worth knowing if pump oil is similar. Thanks for the great videos.
@jerrysmith372
4 жыл бұрын
My solution was to buy the oil less pump. Worth the money in my opinion. I've had it now for a year and run it almost 24/7. No oil to mess with - no pump clean out to do. What a mess.
@tiffanyswygert2320
4 жыл бұрын
Old Frugal One Hyper-Drive Movement .... I read on a forum that the oil free pumps had to be mechanically repaired often.
@jerrysmith372
4 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanyswygert2320 Before my warrantee ran out I did have to send mine back for a rebuild. But HR covered all the expenses. (one week turnaround) It's been a year since then and I haven't had another issue. I work electrical maintenance in the chemical industry, and I can tell you for any pump of any kind to get a year service with no issues is a good run. We rebuild pumps all the time - I don't see that as a bad thing. At some point your car will have a break down right? Anything mechanical will suffer a breakdown at some point - nothing man made lasts forever.
@SOHN32
4 жыл бұрын
Need set up in line diesel filter oil system. Less mess plus filter water out without having dump oil. Epicenter Brian has filter system like this or ways build one. Might make stuff simpler for you Retired at 40
@lanihoala9183
3 жыл бұрын
This works great. Bought filter for $5.00 at thrift store and have filtered a gallon of oil over and over again. Thank you
@carolclarkson4859
4 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. Filtering the oil is fast and easy. Our Dairyland has has lasted us over a year.
@Anthony0855
4 жыл бұрын
I dont know much about freeze dryers but looking to get one why cant u just buy oil and fill it up?
@carolclarkson4859
4 жыл бұрын
@@Anthony0855 You can, but it ought to be swapped out every 4-5 batches. We probably spend $10 a year in oil if we filter and reuse it.
@Anthony0855
4 жыл бұрын
@@carolclarkson4859 so this video us for reusing oil? It seems kind of confusing i dont mind buying oil if its easier. I will be probably only using a few times a year will that affect the machine?
@carolclarkson4859
4 жыл бұрын
@@Anthony0855 your plan will work great
@Anthony0855
4 жыл бұрын
@@carolclarkson4859 ok thanks for the help :)
@CapitanFantasma1776
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! How long does the toilet paper filter last? Also, with the Dairy Land oil with detergent, do you still need to take apart the pump and clean it?
@d3ltabrav0
2 жыл бұрын
Ours came with the Brita thing, but I've used the FD 5-6 times and the oil looks perfectly clear so I haven't used it yet. Also, I have seen enough movies to know that marks like that on his hand mean he has about 3 hours before he turns into a werewolf...
@oldgranny410
2 жыл бұрын
The new harvest right systems ship with a Britain type filter. It seems they heard what people were saying and have made improvements
@oldgranny410
2 жыл бұрын
That should read brita
@lindahowell3605
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@bornonthebayou7926
4 жыл бұрын
The maintenance free oil less vacuum pump remains one of my best investments, quieter, faster, and hassle free. Expensive? Yes. But worth every penny imho.
@jerrysmith372
4 жыл бұрын
@@nanmaco So sorry you have had so much trouble with your pump. I've had mine for a year now. I had to send it in under warrantee a few months ago. It began making a terrible noise so they rebuilt it and I got it back after only a week. Free shipping from HR. I run my large dryer and pump almost 24/7. I always have something going. I have been pouring a 1/4 cup of water down the hose after 10 to 15 batches for the last year - it seems to do no harm and flushes any build up out. I cut a hole in an old coffee can to fit over the exhaust port to catch all the water spray. For me, the oil less pump has worked out well with hardly any issues. I hated all the oil filtering and extra cleanings. Good luck with the newest pump. FYI - I had a relay failure for the pump in the first 3 months. They sent me a new relay card to get it going again. The HR relays are only rated at 8 amps. The inrush current of the pump can exceed that rating. I installed an interposing 20 amp relay to take the load off the HR internal relay. The 20 amp relay is energized by the smaller HR relay (pump power out) to apply power to an outlet that the pump is plugged into. Having a 40 year career as an electrical instrument tech allows to understand these machines very well and troubleshoot them with the help of the HR service reps over the phone. You may simply have a weak intermittent pump relay failure. I'm seeing an intermittent issue with my heater relay. With foods not getting heated. I've been giving the top a smack (Top left rear corner) where the relay card is to get it to energize. I need to either get another card from HR or solder in a replacement relay on the card. (I have some spares from the old card.) I understand that not just anyone can open up these machines and work on them. But if you have the same issue again, you may want to have some one help you troubleshoot with HR. Could be a relay problem. Does the pump run OK when plugged into the wall outlet?
@jerrysmith372
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I've had mine now for a year and run it almost 24/7.
@steffaniewalz3669
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you are the person to ask. We bought our Freeze Dryer right before Thanksgiving. It wouldn't hold a suction when we were doing to testing on it. So, we contacted Harvest Right... they sent us another pump. So, now we have three pumps two oil and one not sitting in my mud room.. and no working harvest right. They've told us to download our data, and we finally got that accomplished ( holiday madness) We think that we feel air coming from the connector at the machine. We're not sold that it's the pumps..... I would think that after three of them not working we could rule that out. I would be more than happy to ship this one back and they could ship us a new one. Which I know is costly but, I wouldn't think more than three pumps. So, maybe you can help with this little problem. It just will not hold a vacuum. What was total excitement is now turning to total frustration.
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
Try disconnecting your tray and wiring harness from the chamber. Plug your pump directly into an outlet and close your valve and door and let the vac pump run for a minute or two. Shut everything off and sit in silence and see if you can hear anything. Also might try a spray bottle with soapy water to spray on potential leak areas. If it is leaking somewhere, it will foam up.
@steffaniewalz3669
4 жыл бұрын
@@live.life.simple. Thank you!!!
@lindahargett5429
3 жыл бұрын
We just watched the Don't use Dairyland oil in your pump. Then we just watched the 45 second oil change. I have to say I am confused, Is Dairyland oil good to use all the time or not? Or maybe you were talking about the new pump not using the oil. Please clarify Thank you!
@dougcaggiano3961
4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend using paper towels. The reason is, toilette paper breaks down and sometimes you will get little paper particles in the filtered oil in the bottom.
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
👍
@wendyjapp2218
3 жыл бұрын
I found that oil at our local fleet supply for 15.00 a gallon. OK now after watching more of your videos I've seen you said not to use the dairy oil on the new pumps? I'm getting my machine in April 2021 , so I want to make sure to get the right oil. What is the best oil to use on the premier pump?
@danhansen5584
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@pinkpanther5379
4 жыл бұрын
How long is a really long time for one gallon oil to last?
@RT-gs7fj
4 жыл бұрын
Dairyland is good oil. But water stays in the oil and reduces vacuum pressure. Using an on-off filter system during the process is much better. With a dead cold housing on the vacuum pump does not allow the water to evaporate
@charlespax
4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered placing your pump on a taller platform, so you can drain it directly into the Brita?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
that's an idea. I kind of like it in a separate container so i can fish out undesirables or separate as much water as possible
@lashbay5951
2 жыл бұрын
Nice hack 👍🏽
@kristoskalemanis
3 жыл бұрын
You should think about looking into a diesel fuel water separator combined with an oil filter to actually clean the oil and remove water from your oil as you go. Looked it up and found a video on that on KZitem.
@nicholasnapier2684
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that was like a a way you could you could do biodiesel peanut oil vegetable oil excetera
@innerviews897
4 жыл бұрын
Et cetera
@JohnInBibs
4 жыл бұрын
On the old JB pumps do you not have to tip it forward to get the water out of the bottom like you do on the new pumps?
@vginnmusa3128
3 жыл бұрын
My JB pump in the shop for seal replacements....the oil for very murky very quickly & suddenly not pull good vacuum. New pump working good but noticed oil is just as murky, possibly a little less the more I use it. Had black gold with old pump. Using Dairyland with new. Any ideas on why new pump, new oil getting murky like old failing pump?
@CarnivoreConservative
Жыл бұрын
So do you replace the TP every time you filter new oil?
@sunlitrain
2 жыл бұрын
Hi! My freeze dryer just arrived, and I haven’t used it yet. Hope to this week. Your channel seems awesome! I have a Q. I am not too mechanically minded. Does the oil content affect the food? I ask, as this past year, I started having allergic reactions to a lot of toilet papers. So began my TP research. I learned that typical TP is made from recycled. In order to purify, they use chemicals, mainly chlorine. It is possible to buy purer TP, but you have to research and it costs a lot more. They usually call ot “premium.” But I am wondering: If the TP being used to filter the oil has chlorine in it, is this going to affect the food being dried? (I also do not want particles of TP in the oil if that will impact the food. Does any bit of the oil end up vapourized or airborne or in any way touching the food? Hopefully, it makes no difference.
@nellcovington4001
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm wondering if you got your answer from anywhere else. As someone who is allergic to most foods, I can understand why you asked. I'm still fairly new to freeze drying but I've not had any problems from the oil. It doesn't actually touch the foods or put fumes into the fd machine as far as I can tell. It just simply oils the pump. You shouldn't have any problems from the foods. Hope this helps. Have you joined any facebook FD sites? There are a number of really good ones where you usually get quick answers. My fav is called The Better Freeze Drying Group for Harvest Right and Others. Yes, its a long name but a great group of people. Some sites have a lot of critical folks but this one isn't like that...at least it hasn't been so far. Hope things are going well for you.
@sunlitrain
2 жыл бұрын
@@nellcovington4001 O wow, I really appreciate your helpful response. I have felt overwhelmed at how to start. Thank you for these observations and connections. Yours is the first response.
@nellcovington4001
2 жыл бұрын
@@sunlitrain Glad to help a fellow allergy sufferer😊. It can be intimidating to get started. I have watched tons of videos on you tube and read a ton of chats on face book sites. It helped a lot. I had some problems with the fd when it first came and I thought I'd never get going, but I have done several runs now and am enjoying it. We had to change our oil for the first time today. Not sure why the machine told me to do it so soon, since you should get 20 to 25 runs, but it said time to change so we are doing it. Got to take good care of such an expensive machine. Hope you are getting things done by now and enjoying the fruits of your labor. Let me know how it goes. Oh, and there are chemical-free toilet papers you can usually find at the health food stores, but they are probably pretty expensive. We got the Brita type filter system with our machine. Giving it a try now. Good luck and don't forget to join some face book freeze drying groups. I'll help when I can😊. Also..."Phil at 4800 feet" has a lot of great you tube videos with amazing information.
@lpercival8491
3 жыл бұрын
I am looking at purchasing a freeze dryer, do you think the cost of the oil less pump or the premiere is worth it? I am assuming in this video you have the standard pump, do you change oil after every batch? How do you know when the oil needs to be changed? Thanks, enjoyed the video
@airlar4857
3 жыл бұрын
You should throw a disclaimer or annotation on this vid now that the premier pump exists, since Dairyland isn't advisable for that particular pump. Don't use the Britta for oil changes either... it makes your water taste funny
@keithbyrd10
3 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you. I’ve changed my oil and put it back to the fill line but when it kicks on the oil level is now at the top of the sight glass. What’s going on??
@live.life.simple.
3 жыл бұрын
When the oil is circulating the indicator will read high.
@luannwainwright8913
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Retired at 40. What do we do on the touch panel to reset the FD so that it knows that the oil has been changed? Help!
@live.life.simple.
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't reset. The reminder is set to come on after a preset amount of cycles
@connielund8763
4 жыл бұрын
I heard the oil has to be refrigerated? Is this true? Where do you store your used oil? Thanks, your videos are so helpful!
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
not sure what refrigeration would do? you can freeze used oil to separate water from the oil.
@0xAlex
Жыл бұрын
Can you filter the oil more than once?
@renettahogan2817
3 жыл бұрын
How often do you change out the toilet paper between oil filters?
@shadowphantom2567
4 жыл бұрын
I saw a video of someone doing this, but they did not use any toilet paper. The Brita filter that is made for this pitcher was used. Is the Brita filter insufficient? I just purchased the HR medium unit and waiting for delivery. Thank you for your GREAT videos. I'm learning a lot!!
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
The brita filter is meant to filter water, so it will allow water through. Tej toilet paper is also inexpensive and replaceable.
@leikolee65
4 жыл бұрын
@@live.life.simple. Toilet paper is pretty hard to come by these days. What now?
@david84ss
4 жыл бұрын
Ive been using just the brita filter, I think I will be changing to toilet paper. As he said, water does get through the brita, and I noticed it changed my vegetable oil color to a darker shade almost like apple cider vinegar
@kathleentitchbourne1721
3 жыл бұрын
I should add, the premier vacuum pump is on back order, so they sent the standard one with the unit. I cannot reach anyone for additional help. Can someone tell me what I have possibly done wrong? I realize that the "off" position on both the toggles is the O. I have both on the "I" position. I appreciate if anyone can suggest a solution. Thank you! Kathy
@OldesouthFarm
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if one can filter the oil through a milk filter. I have a goat milking machine, but the vacuum pump is not an oil pump. Milked 2 does at once for 7 years and never a problem with it. Sold the goats but still have milk filters. May try it when I get my freeze drier
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
not sure if it needs to be a certain cfm vac? That would be a great question for the facebook group
@dennisgeake2156
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1970's I worked at a chicken place where we filtered our pressure fryer oil through milk filters. Not exactly the same application, but the filters were very sturdy and held up against even very hot oil. I think it would work.
@oldgranny410
2 жыл бұрын
That should read BRITA
@kev5n24
4 жыл бұрын
hope you got back at that wolverine that messed you up
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
shoulda seen the other guy....er wolverine
@Hollowayshouse1026
7 ай бұрын
So my freeze dryer says on screen premiere owners change oil but it won’t go off
@live.life.simple.
7 ай бұрын
You can reset the message in settings. Hold down the leaf logo or other parts of the screen depending on your software version
@fatjellydonutglaze2230
2 жыл бұрын
Can you use coffee filters instead of toilet paper
@live.life.simple.
2 жыл бұрын
I used to use the toilet paper wrapped in a coffee filter
@kadirogers2966
3 жыл бұрын
How often do you change the toilet paper? How many times do you reuse your oil?
@live.life.simple.
3 жыл бұрын
Lots of variables. You can usually yell by looking at it. The oil will take longer to filter and the tp will start to come apart
@ilemjohn
4 жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks
@blueoutside3394
3 жыл бұрын
does this process work on the new pump?
@winfieldjohnson125
4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used the "power flush" to change the oil?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
I have not.
@brittanyhansen1249
3 жыл бұрын
How long does the toilet paper usually last?
@BigBoiBalu
3 жыл бұрын
Coffee filter
@tjcampbell811
3 жыл бұрын
Can you use your freeze dryer in a non-climate controlled garage where temperatures can reach over 100F? Does it degrade the freezing process?
@live.life.simple.
3 жыл бұрын
Hard on the freeze dryer and will probably not work or the cycle will take a very long time
@lyndabuchholz1216
4 жыл бұрын
How much of the oil do you lose with the TP absorbing the oil? Do you reuse the TP over and over and if so how many times can you do that? I really like this idea. I had seen this done with motor oil for your cars but never thought of doing it with the FDer oil.
@DTOM76
4 жыл бұрын
Lynda Buchholz I've used my TP over and over. Probably 40 loads and it's still cleaning just fine. It does filter a little slower now after so many loads.
@lyndabuchholz1216
4 жыл бұрын
@@DTOM76 That is good to know! Thanks!!!!!!
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
@@DTOM76 I agree. You can use the toilet paper over and over. Even after it looks like it totally full of stuff, oil comes out clean.
@winfieldjohnson125
4 жыл бұрын
@@live.life.simple. we change the TP filter when we start seeing a few beads of water coming through with the oil.
@antoniomolinar6248
2 жыл бұрын
How much oil is lost in the TP for each batch?
@live.life.simple.
2 жыл бұрын
It will vary case to case
@Servelegend
4 жыл бұрын
What size is yours, planning to buy one in the next few weeks, but unsure of what size a family of four should get?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
I have the medium, which works fine for me. I would reccomend med. Or large
@NGraver001
3 жыл бұрын
Those are some sweet burn marks on your hand!
@live.life.simple.
3 жыл бұрын
RC Heli
@sv3931
3 жыл бұрын
@@live.life.simple. Now...do you recommend Charmin or will Dollar General tp be sufficient? 🤪
@richardfuller2326
3 жыл бұрын
Can you use the new Brita filter that comes with the unit?
@coryellennelson8441
3 жыл бұрын
No
@richardfuller2326
3 жыл бұрын
@@coryellennelson8441 Thank you for your reply
@kathleentitchbourne1721
3 жыл бұрын
I am running through the "bread" cycle, my very first batch. Ive triple checked everything and cannot figure out why the vacuum pump has not turned on?? After 50 minutes, I cancelled the cycle.
@yvesberube6067
3 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Titchbourne ... I can't quite remember, ours is new to us too, but I believe I was concerned with the same issue. Quite sure though, you just didn't wait long enough. The pump doesn't come on until the 'freeze drying' cycle begins ... that is, after the initial 'freezing'. I'm still amazed just how long it takes for the 'freeze' cycle ... just did some fish ... 4 hours on 'freeze'. Next time I'm going to pre-freeze in my freezer. Still not sure what, if any advantage or disadvantage, to running that freeze cycle on the f.d. Seems a waste of time??? Remember you can always call Harvest Right. I have and they were very helpful. Brenda
@kathleentitchbourne1721
3 жыл бұрын
@@yvesberube6067 thank you, I did learn that finally 😃
@uninformed7822
3 жыл бұрын
How many times can you repeat this process before you need to use new oil?
@live.life.simple.
3 жыл бұрын
It will vary with the brand of oil, what type of food it was used on, how long the cycle was. It will not filter clear at a certain point. I have pretty good luck with 4-8 filtering rounds.
@jmoney6652
4 жыл бұрын
How many filterings can you get out out of one batch of oil?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
lots. There is not a specific number, more by the looks of the oil
@judyvogt2718
4 жыл бұрын
How often to i need to change the TP?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
after a few filters it starts looking pretty dirty. depending on what you have freeze dried, you should be able to tell
@crazytalk306
4 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to change the oil with every batch?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
For the older pump you do. I believe HR has a new hose kit that eliminates the need
@crazytalk306
4 жыл бұрын
So how often would you recommend? I do have the new pump & hose. I ran my bread batch with the oil that came with the unit but will be running dairy land oil exclusively now
@tombates5347
4 жыл бұрын
How often do you have to replace the T P?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
Someone just mentioned they change every third but I have found that I can go 10-15
@kivie13
4 жыл бұрын
I do the same method however I wrap a coffee filter over the TP and then insert it. I have been using this filtration system for a couple months and it still filters fine and I darn near have my machine going 24/7 filtering every day. You should be able to get a lot filtered (months and months I would think) before changing out the TP.
@172sbct
4 жыл бұрын
In regards to your video on sealing Mason jars, you ran it for about 1 minute. Someone else said they run it for about 10 minutes. Have you found the sweet spot on vacuum time? I am going to try this for the first time and just want to be sure that they are sealed well. I may even add an oxygen absorber just for security. I would assume the jars if stored out of light and in cooler are would stay good just as long as a mylar bag? Mylar I have always heard should last indefinitely.
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
as long as the seal is good, i tend to think it will last just as long. Time will tell i suppose. After 1-2 minutes it makes a seal so tight it has to be pried off. I can't imagine any longer does better. I don't use an oxygen absorber, because if the seal if malfunctioning, the absorber is not going to do any good anyway.
@172sbct
4 жыл бұрын
@@live.life.simple. Good point about not using the absorber. I am going to try this with my next batch of FD food. Very excited. Thanks a bunch.
@jerrysmith372
4 жыл бұрын
Yes - I have used my pump to seal up Mason jars and it works well. I cut a wide 1X8 to place inside the chamber so I can fit in more jars. Mylar will seal out air and most importantly - light. I watch the display and pull my jars down to between 600 and 700 mTor. Makes a very tight seal.
@172sbct
4 жыл бұрын
@@jerrysmith372 About how long does it take to bring it down to that vacuum pressure?
@jerrysmith372
4 жыл бұрын
@@172sbct About 15 to 20 min. Depends on just how well your pump is operating. I have the oil less pump.
@tbaine
4 жыл бұрын
Where's the water ?? Or just filtering the junk out
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
most of it will stay in the filter and evaporate before the next filter
@clintg3435
3 жыл бұрын
Now we see where all the covid-19 toilet paper ended up.
@working.on.it.2852
4 жыл бұрын
The oil spout ruin your pump
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
What oil Spout?
@working.on.it.2852
4 жыл бұрын
@@live.life.simple. oh that came out wrong lol. I had some oil come out the exhaust because of a vacuum loss is there anything I need to do or just run the pump
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
@@working.on.it.2852 as long as you don't lose too much oil, you should be fine. Use a container that will slide over that exhaust if you want to catch the oil mess if it happens again.
@FrancisR420
4 жыл бұрын
"From a viewer" Not the first google suggestion?
@Kat21776
4 жыл бұрын
How many times do you use the same filter?
@live.life.simple.
4 жыл бұрын
You can usually tell when it needs to be replaced. It starts getting pretty grungy. I find about 10-12 filters.
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