Bought the 459 last week for a go cart I’m re doing. I’m looking forward to the future mods for this motor! Thank you
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@caseymoore9737
2 жыл бұрын
Throw a 34mm mikuni and header with a little stiffer valve springs and you will be happy. The carb alone even without a header makes a huge difference in power
@andrewely9198
Жыл бұрын
How fast does it go?
@clayhunna7357
Жыл бұрын
@@caseymoore9737 what size pilot and main jet is inside the\your 34mm mikuni ? I just got me a 459cc and want to go the cheaper PWK flatslide 34mm carb route, be awesome to know the jetting size as a reference point to aim for. Cheers
@Count_Munch
Жыл бұрын
@@RedBeardsGaragequick question i have same buggy. What rims and tires are you running
@rickturske4708
2 жыл бұрын
I purchased the 459cc for a golf cart I'm doing. Haven't mounted it yet, but I'm super excited based on the videos you have up. The one part I really need is the exhaust header! I'm not really going away from stock except to the air intake and exhaust (due to space requirements).
@brockueda4866
Жыл бұрын
How did it work out? A friend wants to do the same I am interested to see/hear if it was a good addition.
@Icysoles60
2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel, and man I love it!! Awesome content
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@guysmiley3795
2 жыл бұрын
Great content as always, your banter and craziness cracks me up! The videos where you guys are just having fun are the best. Can’t wait for the next deuce video.
@cwgreen1938
2 жыл бұрын
I liked your comparison video. I am really excited to see the videos on the performance parts videos. Thanks. Just so you know, I watch most of Cars and Cameras videos and I think you are far ahead on construction, fabrication, shop efficiency, and almost all respects of a little engine shop. That is one reason that I am a patreon of "Red Beard's Garage".
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate you being here!
@titinegruta9532
7 күн бұрын
Vă mulțumim pentru modul detaliat de prezentare.....Succes in tote proectele...
@Parents_of_Twins
8 ай бұрын
From someone who hurt their back lifting something heavy while bending over, young and didn't think, get your self an engine lift or something like that to put those engines into those frames. I was working as a hod carrier and reached over and picked up two bags of cement at 94lbs per bag and my back has never been the same. I was 20 years old at the time and strong as hell, I weighed 154lbs and could pick up 4 five gallon buckets of mortar and carry them. I started working as a hod carrier for my dad at around 10 and nobody taught me how to properly lift nor stressed the importance of lifting properly. Still at the end of the day it was my decision to move those two bags at once instead of doing it one at a time. Either way I deal with daily back pain now so be smart and be careful with your back.
@walterwolford7696
28 күн бұрын
Bpc157
@Parents_of_Twins
27 күн бұрын
@@walterwolford7696 Huh?
@walterwolford7696
27 күн бұрын
@@Parents_of_Twins fix your back with peptides
@traedrose7963
2 жыл бұрын
Love the comparison videos. Thanks for great content.
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@erikrohleen339
9 ай бұрын
Driver is on backwards…. Which people tend to do on the 40 converters. This is mentioned a few times below in the comments and is true. The driver is fine to be mounted “backwards” just shim the driven to line up.
@p4our587
Жыл бұрын
First visit to the channel. I liked your analysis of the 2 motors. It wasn't what i wanted to hear… it was what i was going to hear. That's good for everything in life. Stay true to yourself & everybody you come into contact with. Thank you for sharing!
@pancudowny
2 жыл бұрын
As I've said in another video, where the 224 & 212 were compared: I'd say the torque curve was the deciding factor in the results.
@caseymoore9737
2 жыл бұрын
And the reinforced block is huge, pretty much puts it in the same class as the tilotson
@grunt11bs66
2 жыл бұрын
224 has a plastic cam gear
@stoichiometry147
Ай бұрын
Emotional Damage @ 18min. I was like, "Its a turd!" Then you realized the stop still in place. You're a master of suspense
@demoman9116
2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Wish some of you powersports channels were closer too me. I'd love too help out with projects like this
@nicolec7290
2 жыл бұрын
Those are great tires I put them on everything I have. Carlisle all trail. All kinds of grip. & never wear out
@drakrazerclaw5146
2 жыл бұрын
I'll be getting a 459 after I wear out the 390 I have, hopefully more will be available by then.
@KJRaycing
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!!!
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
No problem 😊
@landonpope7522
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 459 yesterday It's going in my ez go gxt-804. Glad i saw this video The original 2 cylinder in the cart was terrible. Best way to run a pulse pump?
@whopper2king
2 жыл бұрын
Intake spacer that has a pulse inlet on it
@liamdtraxxas2011
2 жыл бұрын
When you went up the road and it hit the governor. I would say, it was where the cvt didn't push the belt up quick enough so it was in its lower gear for pulling off thn hit the governor and that split second the belt did it's thing and "changed gear" moved from small on the engine to moving up to change gears and gets smaller on the other end for top speed. On a scooter it has rollers in the variator pully on the engine and you can change the weight of thm witch will change whn it starts moving the belt so you're able to keep it at an rpm where the power band is for full power💯💯💯👍👍👍👌👌
@joeybobbie1
Жыл бұрын
Great Video, I think you definitely need to get Rid of the Governor. I have a Brand New 420cc Predator Engine that has sat in my Garage for 3 Years. I need to find a Go Csrt Frame for it. I would love to find a old Honda Oddesy Frame. I would also like to buil up the Engine. Thanks for the Video.
@fredericklogue6566
2 жыл бұрын
Got mine today, can't wait for your build. Great work.
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@Tacosgalore24
2 жыл бұрын
At the very least, if you're trying to cut down on wind noise while recording, for the go pro, they make a simple foam housing that does a pretty solid job of cutting down on wind noise. Or if you're handy with foam carving, you can make your own for cheap. It's not one of those items that go pro really advertises, but it's worth trying out
@ryankopera7505
2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Fun to watch!
@CODOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'd go with the 459 just for the tourque!
@teflondon1620
2 жыл бұрын
first time watching.. u guys are pretty cool. earned my sub bro
@frankcastle7777
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the cool videos and GOD BLESS you too man.
@rickburns3918
28 күн бұрын
I just installed the 459 cc engine in a utility S X S . I need help wiring the ignition switch to the engine and do away with the rocker start switch. Thank You. I love your videos.
@mkuhlman77
2 жыл бұрын
459 because it's already in my shed waiting for better weather. Yeah boy!
@afarley17
2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those rims and tires?
@Vanhornsby
3 ай бұрын
Found this video while searching for engine replacements for my sons go kart. What a great video. You do a really good job of demonstrating what you're talking about. Question: will the 420cc Predator fit in my sons Coleman KT196?
@gavinvetor5450
Жыл бұрын
Do you have to have the CVT and if you don’t will it make it a lot slower
@blueshowlar
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found your channel. Thanks.
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@bryduhbikeguy
2 жыл бұрын
That just looked like fun rides regardless to the engine.The 459 seemed to really pour on the torque earlier though.
@life1042
2 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest channel on youtube ❤
@carlosg1165
2 жыл бұрын
Love the low end torque on the new engine pluss pressure lubrication is way better
@patchouli3422
2 жыл бұрын
Now the real question is how the 459 compares to the Duromax 420 and 440.
@JoshPhoenix11
2 жыл бұрын
426 Hemi 😆
@Dr.Cypher
2 жыл бұрын
What torque converter do you recommend if I will eventually upgrade the 459 but don't want to buy 2 converters.
@Mikeofindy
2 жыл бұрын
On the surface, I wouldn’t want either one for my kart. That cart was creeping through the woods. That’s the kind of power for maybe an 11-15 yr olds. I do understand the video for the sake of comparison and thanks for that. I freaking love your channel
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you here!
@Nothingmore71
2 жыл бұрын
For a large pressure washer you think it would be worth the extra money for the 459? Or just stick with the 420 I’ll definitely be pushing the limits of a typical 13hp engine with the pump I’m going with.
@xscoops1
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@mikesbarn1858
2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 420 and cut down the crank shaft for my generator. With more hp it will start my furnace now. The 459 would be better but wasn’t out when I did that. I did install a billet rod in it before I put it in.
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@dyllongeckles2122
2 жыл бұрын
This video really surprised me. I used to have a little 1 seater with a bone stock 212 on it and the governor shut it off right around 40 and it had about the same acceleration as the stock 420 on that cart. It's crazy to see how big of a difference tire size, weight and gearing can really make with these small engines. I'd love to have that 459 on my old go kart lol
@igokarts4510
2 жыл бұрын
"it's crazy to see to see how big a difference...." ❤️❤️❤️ ❤️
@scoc253
2 жыл бұрын
_i wanna see some stiffer contra spring and lighter rollers then test it again._
@jamest.5001
2 жыл бұрын
You should build a Dyno! You can use a motorcycle disc brake, or a large car alternator, or two, with the output shorted through a heating element, in water. and the brushes powered by a variable power supply, to vary load, the brake disc is the most simple,. And then a load cell and laptop, robot cantina has one, you should build one, or a large water pump, with a valve to restrict flow. About anything that will put a steady load on the engine, that will not overheat.. then you can make videos testing parts on engines for gains! Seems like someone mentioned a diy open source kit or something, to build a Dyno, then you can truly compare these engines!!
@bradleyward285
Жыл бұрын
Can u see in the future? He's got a dyno now
@tristanmcnabb2741
2 жыл бұрын
Yip after watching the two motor show down 8 times over I like the new one 459cc😁🎉👌 allsome work guys from cruzermans inventions 😁🎉
@caseymoore9737
2 жыл бұрын
I liked my built 212 compared to my 420 which had stiffer springs and 34 mm mikuni just for the fact my 212 had the black mamba can and never stopped revving up, pretty sure past 10,000 rpms. Wasnt as fast off the line but would smoke the 420 in the long run
@str8xrippin
2 жыл бұрын
But after 100 miles non stop your 212 would blow up and my 420 would be running without a problem.
@caseG80
2 жыл бұрын
@@str8xrippin how often do you go 100 miles nonstop on one of these?
@str8xrippin
2 жыл бұрын
@@caseG80 I don't know about you guys but pretty often for me, thats why I'm building a street legal 440cc 2 speed bike that should do more than 100 mph and cruise around 70 mph just to keep up with traffic. What I meant with that comment tho is after a long distance it doesn't have to be 100 miles I was just making an example of a long distance. Those 212cc run good but push them a little hard and it'll crap itself
@tonytrv
2 жыл бұрын
Just added a 459cc on my Trailmaster!
@andresavalos3911
2 жыл бұрын
SOMEONE GET THIS MAN A DYNO!!
@rangerdanger126
Жыл бұрын
Hi RBG, just wondering if your still doing any projects with the 459cc? I'm using mine on a long tail mud motor. Been working ok for me, have heard some are saying their mud motor setups with the same engine are bogging down. Is there any performance upgrades you recommend. Anything you would not do? I know for my purpose do not disconnect the Low Engine oil sensor. Thanks Rangers... Lead the Way!
@bigpermsgarage6290
2 жыл бұрын
What tooth axle sprocket and torque converter spricket are you running on this set up?
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
72 tooth and a 40 series
@bigpermsgarage6290
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm trying to get away from the setup that I have that resulted In no low end. That 459 max setup looks perfect.
@shannonrickman7620
2 жыл бұрын
Please do a 440 duro max comparison to the 459
@TheBiggestRedneck
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely Should Leave Those rims & tires on that go cart & have the frame painted blue with a silver flake it would look sooooo good
@jgavinray
8 ай бұрын
What go cart is featured in this video? I see Maxxam decals, but would like to know if your willing to share. Wonderful content!
@johnhicks9529
2 жыл бұрын
It's A good videos. I would use either one just cause I'm A little bit of A wrench.& gear head myself on things like those to.
@earlhouse4458
2 жыл бұрын
I see that you buy the same band-aid's that I use! Blue shop towel and electrical tape!!!
@hueydaboss1870
2 жыл бұрын
Haha I need a blue berry go kart for my blueberry farm!😂
@anthonyt2955
2 жыл бұрын
That CVT isn’t set up to operate optimally. I know it kinda doesn’t matter since ya set it up the same on both engines. The way you’ve (go power sports) has it set up, the driver pulleys sheath, and driven pulleys sheath, are operating in opposing action. Meaning the driver sheath is moving one direction and the driven sheath another, they should move together in same direction, it isn’t a tav 2 … this is wrong according to comet and physics. Love the videos though.
@MrSaabviggen
2 жыл бұрын
Been there done that gave up and shimmed mine to be as strajght as possible at 3/4 to wot since thats where mine stays most of time
@Mowtivated1
Жыл бұрын
Your exactly right....nobody sets them up right, Not even Gopowersports...... Grey Goat 🐐 is only one I've seen install properly
@FeaturePinas63
6 ай бұрын
As far as racing, would you say an upgraded 420 cc will beat the 212cc?
@GodschildinNC
2 жыл бұрын
like the rims on both the cart and the duece
@teshuvahemmet3036
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information 👍🙂🙏
@pedroaguirreg4178
7 ай бұрын
Tengo un motor 420cc ,me gustaría saber si es muy débil si se trabaja con un centrifugal clutch y que tan potente puede ser ??? Me gustan mucho sus videos ,un saludo desde Costa Rica América central 💯💯
@deborahchesser7375
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the Vtwin on the cart, it should really boogie
@jamiemartin6967
9 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 2012 John Deere RSX850i side by side motor is junk comes stock with 62 hp I’m thinking of fabricating a new motor that’s more reliable not really needing the speed but reliability is a must any recommendations?
@TheClintmeister
2 жыл бұрын
Lonnie needs a "test pilot" suit!!
@bryduhbikeguy
2 жыл бұрын
The way he was bouncing around in the trails,I'd say blue and yellow checked...
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea! 😂
@bobbyshaw6831
2 жыл бұрын
55mph on flat ground in my 95 Geo Metro with the 459 in it.
@Dr.Cypher
2 жыл бұрын
Stock?
@str8xrippin
2 жыл бұрын
I'm building a 2 speed 440cc big block cvt mini bike, should be one hell of a ripper
@oif3vetk9
Жыл бұрын
Just picked up a yamaha G2 with no engine for a screaming deal. Primary use will be off road and utility work so I think I'll go with the 459.
@graygunter698
2 жыл бұрын
Also got the 459cc 2 days ago for a gy6 cart with blow 150cc gonna take a while to get this done but should be a blast in the trails for a free cart givin to me and a 500$ engine
@trucker8205
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, what clutch do I need for a predator 420 on a yerf dog go kart? Been trying to figure out which one for a few days now!
@jacobsharp2835
2 жыл бұрын
30 series torque converter.
@r0ckworthy
Жыл бұрын
How come this new sport is made around torque converters and centrifugal clutches instead of manual transmissions and standard (motorcycle) clutches? Seems like it'd be more fun with a clutch pedal and a 4 or 5 speed manual motorcycle-type transmission. Would be better for hill climbs, crawling at low speeds, and fuel economy.
@microfarmers
Жыл бұрын
My cheap Chinese 125cc 3 speed kids gokart does 34 mph with 290 lbs on it, and it rips uphill in low gear?
@cportmikesautomotiverepair1355
Жыл бұрын
Omg love it good job bro
@loosescrewlab3605
2 жыл бұрын
know what im goin to be savin up for!! 459!!
@trumpfancardanostakepool4737
2 жыл бұрын
These comparisons are excellent.
@g576758
8 ай бұрын
I have 2 420cc engines I did see those Dromax engines in the background what's your opinion on them are they just as good
@dustinjohnson2116
Жыл бұрын
Do you have to buy the torque converter Cvt kit or can you buy the motor and set it up with out it. I have a go kart that has a old 10hp robin subaru with the torque converter
@pedroaguirreg4178
7 ай бұрын
Me gustaría saber si con el motor 420cc con un clutch centrifugal,en lugar de un cvt ,podré mover un carrito como ese que se ve en este video,por favor déjeme saber ???? Se lo agradezco mucho, saludos desde Costa Rica América central
@MoneyLoaf
7 ай бұрын
I have a Briggs and Stratton engine on a go kart I think it’s 10hp not really sure but I’ve been trying to get it fixed it has a stuck valve I need to fix and it should be running after I get that fixed. My grandpa gave it to me and he said it was a fast go kart so I’m hoping it runs well
@booksoutloud4u922
2 жыл бұрын
I have searched the internet for 4 adult size carts to be used on a DIY dirt track and haven’t found a dealer that could be trusted to ship. I live in Des Moines IA and there are no local dealers.
@ahmondeboxley2950
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video and review do offer any service or builds on go carts'
@davidmed9133
Жыл бұрын
what engine would you sudgest murray hard drive with 22 inch tires in the back and what size sprocket please
@dongreene2546
3 ай бұрын
I put one on my yerfdog, with a reverse gearbox. I put a 54 tooth #40 sprocket on the axle its slipping the belt when pulling off, and gets stuck in the driven pully, and breaks the belt. I did ok with a 60 tooth sprocket, but the cart is really slow. I am still on the governer. Anyone have any good help solutions.
@suped1981
2 жыл бұрын
RBG How did you get those size rim and tire on there? Is there a video. I have a Chinese go cart and the rims warp and twist eventually cracking.
@SlaxFS
2 жыл бұрын
So I have twister hameerheqd 150cc kart and was wanting to know the size of the front tires and maybe what battery to use?
@trevorparker5552
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 459 for a lawnmower im building and I'm wondering if I need a torque converter or just a clutch
@daveschwartz9447
2 жыл бұрын
domed washer also called Bellville washer
@franciscovazquez4073
Жыл бұрын
i did one but the cvt belt keep burning any suggestions? THANK YOU!!!!!! 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
@bbirder8775
2 жыл бұрын
Installing a 459 predator in my UTV. Can you help me with a manual choke thatcould be installed on this engine?
@johnhicks9529
2 жыл бұрын
Try changing the Jets out to smaller ones you'll see A difference in the power.& speed gain to.
@aliessi
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I do need some help is there any way to contact you to run some ideas by? I’ve got a Manco 606 and I just purchased predator 459 today. It was previously all stock with a Suzuki 169 cc in now I need a new engine mounting kit/plate. Do you know where I can get one?
@kroozin5
2 жыл бұрын
Hello do u have any videos on a crossfire 150 with this type of motor installation
@edwerts7096
2 жыл бұрын
Hello i recently purchased a used honda clone that i assume was a race kart engine. When i went to adjust the valve lash i noticed the springs were bigger and longer than stock and painted yellow. What kind of springs are these? I also noticed that the cam had a very light duration to the lobes with numbers etched on the side. The numbers are 10-5-104 in big numbers. Does anyone know what these numbers mean? Is this like a box stock cheater cam? Any info would help. Thanks!
@DavidMartinez-uz2vf
2 жыл бұрын
I have a question on a baja warrior i bought... I'm having trouble with the chain. Its rubbing against my new tires. Any suggestions
@tjstrain280
Жыл бұрын
I acquired a brand new predator 420 engine from a generator, but it has a short stubby tapered shaft on it. So I’m thinking I need to replace the crank with a 3 inch keyed shaft. I am eliminating the low oil sensor, and the governor since I have it apart. should I upgrade the crank or do other performance mods since I have to buy a crank?
@taylor1722
2 жыл бұрын
could i stick a snowmobile engine in one of these??? im looking for a beat up frame like that since i already have a couple of sleds with reverse.. juts wonderingg how much engine space theior really is
@theoriginalpauly
Жыл бұрын
You guys don't run a tach? I'd be really interested to see a tach reading during test runs, if it's possible.
@aaroncody530
10 ай бұрын
I'd love to know the weight differences between different engines.
@RedBeardsGarage
10 ай бұрын
There very similar. Harbor Freight tells the weight of both.
@absolutelyphucked150
2 жыл бұрын
I have the same engine, but for this 40 Series 1" Torque converter its asking me if i want a 3/4 driven pulley or a 7/8 driven pulley... what does that even mean and do? And which do i want
@goatsinker347
2 жыл бұрын
Is that entire garage/shop just for this lawnmower engine modifications stuff?
@amorykin
2 жыл бұрын
I picked the 459cc up to replace a 420 in a Yamaha G2. I'm still looking for an exhaust flange so I can weld up a new header. It's 1-1/2 ID and I think the bolt a 2-3/8 center to center. Does anyone know where we can buy that from? You can get 1-1/2 "OD header pipe from Amazon, but the header flange is the mystery. I also can't fist the aftermarket OMB type air filter upgrade on because it's too close to the frame. Is there a way to come off of that 62mm piece with a close 90 deg and then go to the filter. I ride on a very dusty roads and it killed my 420. Is there a flat air box available for these engines? Thanks RB!
@GustavoMosqueda-k6c
6 ай бұрын
What torque converter is that can you link it for me please for the max performance engine I just got one and I need one for my go kart
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