I am more interested in that e46 to be honest, pretty impressive
@rondjeee
Жыл бұрын
Yes what a power
@mnoovurvi
Жыл бұрын
To be fair It's not common to have 480hp on these. You can do stage 2 around 450, but any upgrades after that will make it over 500.
@michaelkelly3158
Жыл бұрын
My BM3 stage 2+ with Supra high pressure fuel pump is marginally quicker than the stage 1 power (7.5-8 seconds 100-200KPH versus 8.2-8.4 stage 1) but I have seen dyno runs from other cars supposedly around 480BHP with similar 100-200 times. I haven't had mine on a dyno though and it's hard to know which ones to trust, but a lot of 500-600HP saloon cars produce similar 100-200 times with a bit more weight. The M240s really fly because they're so light compared to loads of other stuff on sale today!
@mnoovurvi
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkelly3158 The car from the video definitely did not look close to 7s on the straights.
@michaelkelly3158
Жыл бұрын
@@mnoovurvi No, not at all - more like 10.5-11.5!
@dennym3332
Жыл бұрын
Assuming driver skill being equal, a M240 with 480hp would still have a hard time with the e46 M3
@tommerlin6579
Жыл бұрын
M240 with 2/3fuel and 200kg. M3 with driver like me e.g., 60kg. M3 Stoff with semi slicks a lot wider than 245 on 240. And so on.....
@frog382
Жыл бұрын
@@tommerlin6579 I think its mainly the suspension that is the reason for the cornering performance we've seen from M3 here and not speculating how heavy the driver of M3 is 😆
@tommerlin6579
Жыл бұрын
@@frog382 😆ok. Suspension and much stiffer front end. Also the old Power Steering is much better than F Series.
@professionalbeats.6382
Жыл бұрын
I have 1 460 hp and tbh it feels exactly like a e46 m3
@heinrichr
Жыл бұрын
That thing pulls!
@GuitarRock86
Жыл бұрын
Yep while seeing i Say too soft and too much rebound. And It seems not with 480 hp...
@marcvanderbent9262
Жыл бұрын
Always had that lawnmower feel with this brand which I never had in the Audi's I drove. Maybe I renew my experience driving something like this (once I've redone all electronics aircraft style so I can put some trust into the system 😁)
@zerooneonetwothree1872
Жыл бұрын
To me it looked like you really had 100hp more than e46 but it pulls away in corner exists. I think this was a perfect example how power needs to be matched with components to eliminate bottlenecks..
@RDEnduro
Жыл бұрын
He was on the throttle alot sooner as well sometimes less power lets you do that more confidently
@TheRealDr.Mabuse
Жыл бұрын
True, engine is the last part you tune on a sports car; clut, bushing, suspension, aero...
@tommerlin6579
Жыл бұрын
M240 with 2/3fuel and 200kg. M3 with driver like me e.g., 60kg. M3 may be with semi slicks a lot wider than 245 on 240. And so on.....
@zerooneonetwothree1872
Жыл бұрын
@@RDEnduro It think the reason he was on the power sooner was like Misha said in the video, with soft suspension you need to wait for the car to settle after the corner. So with hard suspension, the lateral force is absorbed by the tire more than suspension, producing more grip, more consistent grip and car is not tilted, so you have lower center of gravity
@buildanddrive
Жыл бұрын
Also his goes to show that Jeremy Clarkson is right... MORE POWWWWEEERRR!!!! Always wins against other mods.
@sewahsewah
Жыл бұрын
When you think your car is sorted and then Misha comes along and tells you the truth 😂
@GrabberSmurf
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate his honesty but it’s a hard position for him to be in to say anything. Hopefully most owners can accept the advice and “not let it affect their pride”. I love his commentary about parts and car and the track etc…
@frog382
Жыл бұрын
@@GrabberSmurf Yea, owner was humble and open minded. If i was him i would keep the comfy suspension and sacrifice those 10 sec that i would gain few times on TF 😂
@seanm.collins9888
Жыл бұрын
Well, Mulgari likes to position themselves as both fast road and motorsport experts and the Icon 3 is better than a real M factory car.
@328irossi
Жыл бұрын
Applause for the E46!! Showing what TRUE “M” pedigree is all about 🤣👌🏻👌🏻
@VaunShiz
Жыл бұрын
Yea it's cuz the E46 is a actual M car , this is not ... In any way lol
@CVFilms
Жыл бұрын
Great Sunday video :) Thats Mischa !
@radspiderjackson
Жыл бұрын
i was not expecting such a dope chase. great vid
@omracing201
Жыл бұрын
More examples of nice set up m240is would be apreciated 🙂👍🏽
@lumpi1337
Жыл бұрын
This does really not look like 480hp... I mean, take it with a grain of salt because it's pretty inaccurate (and it's not on a straigt road really), but going by tachometer and timestamp at the start of the lap, it took around 11 sec 100 - 200 km/h. I think stock is ~12-ish sec with 340hp. Also would check out with the E46 M3 being slightly faster or par. Both cars also pretty much weigh the same actually (M3 ~1570kg, M240i ~1565kg). So I think Misha is pretty much spot on with the suspicion of around 380hp instead of 480hp.
@performance_club
Жыл бұрын
480 ps stage MHD stage 2 7.7sec 100-200...
@lumpi1337
Жыл бұрын
@@performance_club so yeah pretty much no way that's 480hp..
@mgcharoudin
Жыл бұрын
yap
@toranwartoran
Жыл бұрын
Stock 100-200 is 11.6 sec in my 240 Rwd. Now my car tuned BM3 stage 2 now it does it in 8.9 sec.around 426 hp
@aemreislamoglu
Жыл бұрын
i am using m240i xdrive.i am also using mhd stage 2. but it depends on the amount of ethanol you put in, it can be 420 horsepower. apparently it wasn't like 480 hp
@tennispennis7579
Жыл бұрын
He paid for 480 but they only gave him 380, take it back and tell them you lost a 100 somewhere!
@tennispennis7579
Жыл бұрын
Failed the MSoP Test...Misha Seat of Pants, what better way to test a car HP figures mean nothing if you cant put it down to the ground. Well Done Misha Buddy.....careful though Buddy the speeds you are driving I would wear at least a crash helmet and some eye protection. Gotta love your passenger for his running commentary as well
@CalvinsCarDiary
Жыл бұрын
This is the car that almost made me sick 😑
@mgcharoudin
Жыл бұрын
No wonder with that suspension
@RY3ER_
Жыл бұрын
I love this. Once I saw that e46 fly-by I said to myself - oh, boi, here goes that e92 sitiuation again and Misha will be on it. And I was not wrong, neither disappointed :) Absolutely adore these "duels" makes the content pop-up alottt. Great driving overall !
@franzjosefstrauss8080
Жыл бұрын
from the acceleration from the start this doesn´t look like 480hp. more like something between m2 and m2 competition
@trapdoorspider9211
Жыл бұрын
Nice set of wheels on the 240 those look very nice and suit the car very well. Wheels are what set the car off and have to be period correct👍
@KimBin-e5f
4 ай бұрын
were i can buy the body kit ????? HELP
@saucysimpson259
Жыл бұрын
That car would benefit massively from the XHP gearbox flash
@SampleTracks2224
18 күн бұрын
Yes, after you do everything else. Like "the chassis".
@markdiesel6432
Жыл бұрын
Another tuned M240i with the handling of a Vietnam riverboat. Seems to be a uk thing when M140/240i owners go straight for 450+ when they should address the poor chassis first. LSD, M4 LCA’s, bracing, bushes, decent coil overs before POWAAA. Always many tuned examples of these on autotrader with standard chassis, maybe lowering springs and spacers if you are lucky 🙈I guess it’s all about ‘gapping’ on dual carriage ways though right?
@imnota
Жыл бұрын
Remember uk HP numbers are always like 15% higher than anywhere else...
@seanpoore500
7 ай бұрын
Suspensions soft cause it has adjustable suspension and adaptive dampers. You were in comfort mode, should’ve put it in sport +, which would’ve stiffened the suspension, added more weight to the steering, and given you access to all 480 bhp since it’s a valved exhaust. Also the m235i and m235ir had the n55 engine, with the m240i switching to the b58 engine. Edit- after further along in the video, I realized misha turned on sport + halfway through the video.
@vollcare4076
6 ай бұрын
KW V3 is not adaptive
Жыл бұрын
I came early damn!
@joao.correia2
Жыл бұрын
Early genísio haha
@R19Robbin
Жыл бұрын
That widebody looks nice
@martinchapman2168
Жыл бұрын
Good video
@THEDOPEYDAISY
Жыл бұрын
E46 M3 driver was driving to the cars full potential but this M240i was a disappointment in the performance department. He needs to get the engine mapping done by someone who knows the B58 well and the suspension/geo setup properly.
@SampleTracks2224
18 күн бұрын
The engine could make 1000 bhp and it still wouldn't make any difference to the floppy, unsuitable suspension. Unfortunately most people just go for the headline figure.
@FELiPES101
Жыл бұрын
wow it's rubbing all over the place
@--LZ---
Жыл бұрын
This is the biggest issue with people getting coilovers and I've seen it twice first hand, people buying them and assuming they are ready to go from the box without paying any attention or learning how the car adapts to different ride heights, spring stiffness and damper adjustments.
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
The KW V3 is fine out of the box: - on a road car - but NOT suited for a track use! …and also not matching with semi slicks. The tyre offset much less than the stock car which makes the springs even softer
@torquesteer2657
Жыл бұрын
Nice M240! That e46 was rapid - wonder if it’s charged!
@mgcharoudin
Жыл бұрын
Nope
@tommerlin6579
Жыл бұрын
M240 with 2/3fuel and 200kg. M3 with driver like me e.g., 60kg. M3 Stoff with semi slicks a lot wider than 245 on 240. And so on.....
@3839fd
5 ай бұрын
Which brake pads does he use and which KW suspension? I didn't understand it acoustically. By the way: Misha also speaks good German, as I hear at the end 😃
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
KW V3 is great For ROAD use. But for TRACK its too soft. An the wider wheels (smaller offset) of this wide body conversion make the soft V3 spring rates even softer in reality
@miguelsousa6216
Жыл бұрын
I always thought v3’s were top of the range just like b16’s from bilstein , what suspension should he have gone for ?
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
@@miguelsousa6216 yes V3 is top of the line for road use (besides XTAplus3). But suspension developed for road use is not the correct one for track application. For track you wanna go for e.g. KW Clubsport coilovers
@Jonathan-qz9kd
Жыл бұрын
Guys do you realise that v3 have adjustable damping they prob set on halfway
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-qz9kd maybe yes But also the wider track of the wide body M240 makes the spring rate even softer than it already is from stock
@allothernamesbutthis
Жыл бұрын
Intrigued how the B12 is in comparison being developed on the ring and non adjustable.
@malmsey1541
Жыл бұрын
a car that's good on track is not good on road and vice versa. U can't compare set up for a road to one set up for track
@michaelkelly3158
Жыл бұрын
Misha, unless you let off during the first pull along the straight, the 100-200KPH (even just using the speedo measurement and not GPS speed) looks to be around 10.5-11.5 seconds. Definitely not 480BHP if that's the case! I have an M240i with a stage 2+ BM3 tune and it will do 100-200 GPS in 7.5-8 seconds depending on the weather. It'd probably look like less than that if you were just looking at the speedo too. BM3 stage 2+ will be something like 450-480BHP.
@GTRuppsala
15 күн бұрын
Do you have 98 octane or e20?
@michaelkelly3158
15 күн бұрын
@@GTRuppsala I run Tesco99 or Shell V Power (99 RON). Can’t remember what the map specifies, it’s either 98 or 99 RON. Been a long time since I put the tune on!
@thegaslightneverends
Жыл бұрын
man that black bmw was pulling away like mad in every corner, much better suspension/camber setup
@zetlike4276
Жыл бұрын
even if it has 100 hp more than the black bmw that was ahead, without a doubt they are not noticeable in the face of a less powerful but much lighter car.. I didn't like the constant rubbing of tires on the trenches, it distracts the driver and could cause problems on a track
@crashyyy4116
Жыл бұрын
E82 is the perfect chassis to blend the E46 and F44/87 experience. A 1M or 135i properly set up like that E46 would be just so good to drive.
@Dstructeur1
Жыл бұрын
Well, the steering wheel feeling of the 1M really is trash against those e46 or older gens, imho! Assistance is great ratio but idk why you just loose so much feel when comparing to e46 M3 or even E92 from which it has the front end.
@paulofcdo
Ай бұрын
Anyone can tell me where can I get this body kit?
@aaronleang
Жыл бұрын
The widebody gives me Assetto Corsa vibes
@Worthers199
Жыл бұрын
Love how when that e46 passed Misha turned up the skills👌 Best KZitem channel.
@123divad
Жыл бұрын
So new springs for the kw3 and new brake pads, bit of weight saving will make it miles better
@ChrisUKFF
Жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the B58.
@Uathankicks
Жыл бұрын
Wow the suspension looked like noodles. Might be good in the wet tho 💦
@ThrottleDynasty
Жыл бұрын
Im a driver of a stage 2 m240i i will say when dsc is off the car doesn’t put out the same power as sport +
@simonecambi572
Жыл бұрын
Recently bought One Is the turbo lago normal before 2k rpm ? Also does It out out less Power with DSC off?
@str1kerxx
Жыл бұрын
Why ppl always have to flex with fake HP numbers? If ppl ask me i am always going with "uhm, dont know.. 140 somethin" and just surprise them :) 200 isnt that much either but for me totally fine :)
@patrickh5202
10 ай бұрын
The m240i looks Stock power to me.
@DocDucky
5 ай бұрын
5:15 this turn was minty. I struggle to connect corners like that. Professional jr amateur here. 10/10 would hit a wall again.
@rahimkisoor7004
Жыл бұрын
Clearly a customizer... not a track driver. That's asking for trouble...too soft suspension and pads questionable.
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
Does anybody know the damper settings (clicks) of the V3 coilover - as applied on this Mulgari
6:40 "slightly" humiliating to get overtaken by a 15 year old 335d 😮😮
@enfantterrible4868
Жыл бұрын
Huh?
@michaelkelly3158
Жыл бұрын
It's an E46 M3
@VaunShiz
Жыл бұрын
480hp but got embarrassed by a e46 ... Shows you where this car is weak haha
@simonecambi572
Жыл бұрын
M3 had 380hp and Weight 1250kg this has 400hp max and weights 1600kg , you are a clown my friend :)
@LVL98Magikarp
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Misha! Thank you
@noseeum6385
Жыл бұрын
You are very much the technical expert, and the expert gentleman. Bravo.
@Benjay1975
Жыл бұрын
Hate to say it, poorly put together 240, definitely better in a car show I'd say, not a race track :)
@shadowfire246
Жыл бұрын
it really doesnt seem to accelerate faster than my stock infinity 2014 q50 at 330hp. but obviously through a video, perspective can be a bitch.
@augustortiz
Жыл бұрын
He has all the right mods but they are not working correctly. It also doesn’t seem like 480hp.
@buildindian8169
Жыл бұрын
First here Misha..awesome as usual
@Donovanthegoodthings
Жыл бұрын
Please forgive me saying this , no gum should be allowed in these videos , great video Misha thanks
@FlagnarBoobz
Жыл бұрын
I love it when misha humbles these guys who claim big power numbers and think they have the sickest car. If I’m honest the car looks awful onboard and that e46 is so much better😍
@alexisbetsky
Жыл бұрын
you are too critical misha.
@chrisduran3007
Жыл бұрын
Henry Catchpole reviewed this car for Carfection a few years ago. Pretty unique road car but also feels pretty pointless as the M2 exists. Could explain why only one exists…
@jonathanlonsdale3404
Жыл бұрын
When going over the bumps it sounds like the fans are letting of the air horns lol
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
Not ist’s not ‘Clubsport spec’ ! If you choose KW V3 it’s more a road (only) spec ! 1:47
@Jonathan-qz9kd
Жыл бұрын
Kw v3 is adjustable damping they are probably set like halfway he should have set them on max?
@MrContulmeu
Жыл бұрын
Hey Misha , great video as always , quick question , for my stock M240i manual (M sport suspension) , I want to only do 5 laps of the ring , do I need to get new tyres , pads and discs or can I do it on the existing ones , but keeping in mind that all of those will wear a bit more ?
@paradox5556
Жыл бұрын
im not misha, but you should be fine going in stock as long as you dont go full ham. if you want to go ham, id recommend upgrading brakes due to possible fading issues
@performance_club
Жыл бұрын
Epytec adapter für 380 m4 bremse vorne, stahlflex Bremsleitungen, motul rbf 660 Bremsflüssigkeit, Endless m4 Bremsbacken. Das ist Mehr als genug fur für Daily und track use.
@MrContulmeu
Жыл бұрын
@@paradox5556 Awesome , thank you for your reply :D , I suspect that any decent vended discs for the fronts and rears and maybe EBC yellow stuff should be enough to help with the fade?
@mgcharoudin
Жыл бұрын
For just 5 laps you will be fine as long as the current components are in good condition. Monitor the brake pressure while driving and back off once the pedal starts becoming soft.
@TheCobboc
Жыл бұрын
@@performance_club of course, investing 2k € (?!) for driving five TF laps. Makes sense.
@TimsEnthusiastGarage
Жыл бұрын
Guess I’ll hold on to my e46 comp pack car a while longer 😮
@milossshhh999
Жыл бұрын
He spent so much money on stuff but didn’t put good suspension… 😂
@milossshhh999
Жыл бұрын
Nevermind he has kw v3, guess he has soft setup
@martinoonofrio6007
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@ManuelHenz
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for following😂 Btw The weight is 1230kg
@MrSoulja171
Жыл бұрын
Deffo not 480bhp
@mattkeen3267
Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity what brakes would you reccomend? I’ve got an m240i that i am going to be doing a few trackdays with.
@Andrefilipeferreira_
Жыл бұрын
Endless
@mgcharoudin
Жыл бұрын
Endless or Pagid RSL29
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
Endless ME22 is fine. For GP track you might wanna add some break cooling on front brakes as well
@olderface9939
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it's 480 crank/at the motor. Most b58 stage 2 tunes are 480 crank.
@vonbarrel5023
Жыл бұрын
Hey Misha 🖐 I am curious what's the reason You do laps in so many different cars? And Second thing: Maybe could You do a video about Your favourite FWD, AWD and RWD cars with small explanation why and what do You like in that cars the most? See You 👊
@raydm4015
Жыл бұрын
Car needs hella more camber with those tires and suspension. Somewhere like -3,5
@THESHADOW97139
Жыл бұрын
😳!!!!
@andred.2335
Жыл бұрын
No way this thing has 480hp, not even close.
@buildindian8169
Жыл бұрын
😁
@ThePontiacgto65
Жыл бұрын
🤔 may be SAE gross horses power but not DIN Standard.
@neezy2eezy458
Жыл бұрын
The beep is from someone walking to close to your bumper
@razor_0432
5 ай бұрын
F22 m240i bestes Auto 😍
@piotrBiegi
Жыл бұрын
Probably is just stage1 and have 400 not 480
@gbpi
Жыл бұрын
luv me setup beemer m8 will destory anyfin - man
@micheltebraake7915
Жыл бұрын
Dat is altijd de keuze die gemaakt moet worden, wordt het een GT of tracktool.
@nevenblaskovic7627
Жыл бұрын
Great car just better suspension and it will be 10x better.
@miguelsousa6216
Жыл бұрын
KW V3 are really a good suspension, his just needs to be stiffened a bit , I’ve got bilstein b16’s which are pretty much the equivalent and handles great
@bwest6275
Жыл бұрын
Two things come to mind: 1) is that "really" 480hp? or is that other BMW nicely modded as well. 2) eye opening to see how much gas is needed for one lap.
@clivebrackstone1896
9 ай бұрын
480 bhp? Mre like standard 340ps 😢
@onurkarabulut912
Жыл бұрын
i looked at the playback speed for a moment :)
@warwickstingray
Жыл бұрын
Yep, spring rates are all wrong for the track hence the bottoming out and riding the bump stops but this is a better example of just how shitty the damping setup is on the sub-M cars.
@vollcare4076
6 ай бұрын
It has a aftermarket suspension / springs
@ci-ci42
Жыл бұрын
on the video the KW V3 looked more like a stock suspension wibbling all around hahaaha.
@THESHADOW97139
Жыл бұрын
That's the problem with this type of hardware...the assembly isn't too complicated, but without knowing, the adjustment could be a mountain to climb.
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
The wide track / small offset make the soft V3 spring rates even softer
@mdev8846
Жыл бұрын
@@vollcare4076You are right. What model-brand of springs do you recommend for Nurburgring ?. Thank you.
@vollcare4076
Жыл бұрын
@@mdev8846 KW V3 Clubsport or V4 Clubsport. Oehlins road & track. Maybe Eibach pro street multi Sth like this
@THESHADOW97139
Жыл бұрын
@@mdev8846 It is especially the calibration of the springs, which must be checked ... but the hydraulics of the struts are not to be overlooked ... it is a set. Putting one without the other makes no sense (personal opinion)
@paolonieri473
Жыл бұрын
That bounces is it a matter of shock absorbers or spings?
@MaxMax-th7uz
Жыл бұрын
6:37 found a better driver than Misha !
@farturinn
Жыл бұрын
That E46 though!! We need specs on that thing
@nikolavrckovic1588
Жыл бұрын
12:47 In Croatia we say: Greetings. Excuse me. May I ask you a question?
@mgcharoudin
Жыл бұрын
That will take away more of his (track)time. Be quick and concise.
@maxthemadtuner
Жыл бұрын
What a great job you have!
@tomeksliwinski4162
Жыл бұрын
It was a Bumpy ride :)
@ThenameisOskar
Жыл бұрын
Seems more like a 420-430ps B58 to me
@Carsareimportant
Жыл бұрын
Love the bimmer content 😢 thinking about getting a manual g82
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