the fact that bae is the ''worst'' vocalist in nmixx but is still more than halfway up this list says a lot
@asianindigs
Жыл бұрын
"Worst" is such a strong and drastic word ,it should be "weak"
@eunhqverse
Жыл бұрын
@@asianindigs not really. she is still the worst vocalist in nmixx. worst and weakest are interchangeable but still, she's still a really good vocalist
@asianindigs
Жыл бұрын
@@eunhqverse worst and weak are both different in terms of adjectives of quality. Worst/Weakest are both superlative but their adjectives that describe the quality of a noun are dissimilar, so it should not rely to be interchanged
@eunhqverse
Жыл бұрын
@@asianindigs but for this worst and weakest serve the same purpose
@asianindigs
Жыл бұрын
@@eunhqverse the "same purpose" but NOT the same objective so
@mystacore5768
7 ай бұрын
lily is literally the 4th gen wendy
@whimsical5325
Жыл бұрын
Arguably the bottom three in itzy are all interchangeable. Ryujin has the most weight in 3rd octave, legato. Chaer has some smooth mixed notes and Yuna has some bolder moments.
@eichitenshouin5535
Жыл бұрын
Goeun is so underrated. I thought that she is better vocalist but I always hear something like: “No, Swan is the best vocalist in PK”
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
I think people think that because of swan voice, bit technically Goeun is better :)
@vixxexo6855
7 ай бұрын
Goeun is some of the best vocalist of 4th gen.
@Lafilledlapluie
Жыл бұрын
Lily and pitch accuracy are best friends
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Yess
@loonanter
7 ай бұрын
nmixx and aespa's lowest being in the upper half that's queens
@berry4134
Жыл бұрын
Jieun from Purple Kiss 😿 its so sad she had no screentime in pd48, and when she finally debuted, she was the first to leave the group. I hope she’s doing better
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Yes, she left because of anxiety issues, but she still in RBW so maybe she will comeback one day ...
@sepulvedavicente
Жыл бұрын
Ok, so everyone was in a good place, except for Purple Kiss members lol 1st.- Dosie DOES support, she is shallow, but she is not that inconsistent and has her good moments. She is around High weak (E+) or low weak to average at her best (D-) but that tier is not safe to give to her. She's somewhere around Chaewon Ireh is at least a underdeveloped since she gets very nasal, but has her moments of support (although, very shallow, but just as other E-/E vocalist, so she deserves the spot) she's over Minnie (and honestly Minnie is a F+, she haven't shown decent support in any recent materials so she doesn't deserves the E-, even IVE's Yujin is supporting more frecuently than her) Jieun is... debatable, bcz of her lack of materials is hard to rank her, so some people rank her in underdeveloped, but with the little materials we had, she can easily be around Weak/ High Weak, even as a low weak to average, but we need more materials from her, but they aren't coming very soon since she left the group. Around Dosie is a safe spot tbh Chaein is better than Swan in my opinion since she gets less unfocused than swan, and has her full supported moments so I really think she is on the low average/C- level, but Swan is shallow sometimes and with heavy tongue issues so ig Chaein>Swan. Either way, Swan is one of the strongests D+ in 4th gen. Chaein is around Sullyoon while Swan is behind both of them. Finally Goeun is debatable, I agree with the position of 'the best mid average' but she could easily get to high average if she starts showing some development around G3 or some C5's (or even head voice)
@Minavis_Penguin
Жыл бұрын
I never thought that Yunjin has shown potential of producing resonance in her head voice
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Yunjin has one of the best head voices of the 4th gen :)
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
But I never wrote that she produced resonance
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
What was the interest of your comment ? Being toxic ?
@le4689
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 I guess no? I think they're just explaining smth on yunjin's head voice(?)
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@le4689 do you know this ktuber ? And the only 4th gen female idol that I know who can produce resonance is nayul
@Idkhehetf
Жыл бұрын
I was confused why NMIXX members were out of /6 instead of /7 and what I realized, it hit hard.
Dont use letters its rather pointless and inaccurate
@dylantoo6347
Жыл бұрын
@@liftedb9591 Letters are basically a simplification of the simplification of tiers like proficient, weak, etc.
@kpop9018
Жыл бұрын
Sullyoon es D+/C-, Chaeryeong es F+
@dylantoo6347
Жыл бұрын
@@kpop9018 No
@kpop9018
Жыл бұрын
Técnicamente si
@casey-pu7td
10 ай бұрын
Nmixx - the Vocal Oueen❤
@strangehowwoulds8642
Жыл бұрын
Dosie of purple kiss can support, she is Bb3/B3-G4/G#4
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Oh really ? I saw an analysis saying that she can't but that she still of of the best F+
@marquersurlalune
Жыл бұрын
That's inconsistent I think so it doesn't really count.
@liftedb9591
Жыл бұрын
@@marquersurlalunehe is consistent, but she is shallow, czz of her underwhelming diaphragmatic engagment and muscle development, pretty much the same as most weak or some weak to average vocalists
@bulbasaursroot5274
8 ай бұрын
Vocal ranking (updated/ corrected) based on kva: (Btw I don't know or stan Purple Kiss so I'll substitute them with IVE) 1. Lily (High AA/ B-) 2. Haewon (Low-Mid AA/ B-) 3. NingNing (Low A-AA/ C+) 4. Winter ((Mid-)High A/ C) 5. Yunjin (Mid A/ C) 6. Sullyoon (High W-A/ D+) 7. Karina (High W-A/ D+) 8. Kyujin (Mid-High W-A/ D~D+) 9. Giselle (Mid-High W-A/ D~D+) 10-12. Miyeon (Mid W-A/ D) 10-12. Liz (Mid W-A/ D) 10-12. Jiwoo (Mid W-A/ D) 13. Bae (Low W-A/ D-) 14. Chaewon (High W/ E+) 15. Lia (High W/ E+) 16. Yuqi (High W/ E+) 17. Yeji (Mid-High W/ E+) 18. Minnie (Underedeveloped / E-~E) 19. Yujin (Underdeveloped/ E-) 20. Eunchae (Underdeveloped?/ E-?) I'm not gonna go down the rabbit hole of all F+ & F tiers since they're all interchangeable.
@Timemabean
Жыл бұрын
idk what JYP was thinking with Itzy, they really needed at least one decent vocalist
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Yes, and then there is Nmixx lol
@ZSleepingDragonZ
7 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 JYP overcompensated with Nmixx.
@nicfdh
5 ай бұрын
Im just thinking if only one of the nmixx member debut in itzy it would be nice, i know lily were suppose to be in itzy but nmixx got two B grade vocalist so it would better haewon in itzy since she is good dancer too@@elfy2006
@rose-cg6pq
Жыл бұрын
MENNIE LILY SULLYOON NINGNING YANA AND GOEUN😍😍😍
@L....F
Жыл бұрын
0:15 What? Chaeryeong isn't it better than Ryujin and Yuna? I thought she was the 3rd best vocalist in the group...
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
No, technically she is the weakest But for me, she still sounds better than Yuna The three don't support but yuna and Ryujin are a little better
@L....F
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 👍
@sunshxne4you
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 no, this is kinda inaccurate, chaeryoung is definitely higher than ryujin. Search as many videos as you want they all say the same thing (no hate) yuna might be higher it depends but they are both on same level
@sunshxne4you
Жыл бұрын
@@L....F you were right cuz she can support more and she has also hit a high note that ryujin probably couldn’t. As for yuna they are pretty much the same
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@sunshxne4you Ryujin showed improvements. I'm based on @hopeflakes analysis, if you know her, you know that she is unbiased
@kaitomc_
11 ай бұрын
Nmixx forever! 🎉
@rimkim21
Жыл бұрын
Karina and Giselle are D+/C- and they both are better than Kyujin And Ningning is low B- Winter high C
@bulbasaursroot5274
8 ай бұрын
Karina is High D+, on par with Kyujin, whilst Giselle is D/D+ Karina=Kyujin>Giselle Ningning is still Low C+, she doesn't have the range or quality to be anywhere higher I agree, Winter is High C (maybe Mid-High but who cares?)
@newjeans_bunny2207
7 ай бұрын
Lily is the best vocalist in Kpop industry ❤❤❤
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
not in the industry but in the 4th gen for sure !
@newjeans_bunny2207
7 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 yeah maybe I’m a too big fan of her, sure she’s not the best vocalist 😅 sorry ^_^
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
@@newjeans_bunny2207 no problem ! She is really an excellent vocalist and a good person ❤️
@vixxexo6855
7 ай бұрын
Nah Wendy, Solar, Hyolyn and Taeyeon are better.
@newjeans_bunny2207
7 ай бұрын
@@vixxexo6855 it was just my opinion of course there is better vocalist than her but she is very talented anyway
@blankname692
Жыл бұрын
Lia's pic reminds me of DREN from SPLICE
@rimkim21
Жыл бұрын
Ningning has the best low notes in 4th generation ✨
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Aespa has so good vocals 😭 like Giselle and Karina are better than some main vocalists 😭
@rimkim21
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 ikr
@kpopping_
2 күн бұрын
Imo,i think sullyoon is a better vocalist than winter.
@liftedb9591
Жыл бұрын
Personally id say 1)Lily Mid AA 2)Haewon Low AA 3)NingNing High A 4)Goeun High A 5)Yunjin High A 6)Winter Mid A 7)Sullyoon Low A 8)Chaein High W to A 9)Swan High W to A 10)Karina High W to A 11)Kyujin High W to A 12)Miyeon Mid W to A 13)Jinni Mid W to A 14)Giselle Low W to A 15)Lia Low W to A 16)BAE Low W to A 17)Jiwoo Low W to A 18)Yuqi Low W to A 19)Jieun Low W to A 20)Chaewon High W 21)Dosie High W 22)Yeji Mid W 23)Minnie Mid W 24)Ireh Mid W 25)Eunchae Underdeveloped 26)Soyeon Underdeveloped 27)Chaeryeong Underdeveloped 28)Yuna Underdeveloped 29)Ryujin Underdeveloped 30)Kazuha Underdeveloped 31)Yuki Underdeveloped 32)Shuhua Underdeveloped 33)Sakura Underdeveloped
@chewieqtpie
Жыл бұрын
Ningning has C5 how would she only be high A?
@liftedb9591
Жыл бұрын
@@chewieqtpieUnfortunatelly she has some issues with her placement and diaphragmatic engagment in general. She has some really shallow moments around A4/Bb4 in some occasions, for example coachella, nd big part of her best vocal moments arent live unfortunatelly. She often goes for a lighter and softer approach with pretty underwhelming chest coordination and resonance, she is either on the lower side of A to AA or just average, czz there r some high average vocalists like Haram or Goeun who showcased more consistency in their belting and a better grip over their chest voice
@endutzky
Жыл бұрын
lily is high aa though, and haewon is mid aa
@soujoudlouhichi9695
11 ай бұрын
Ningning is definitely A_AA
@suaAaAaA
11 ай бұрын
All of the top three are still low AA (with ningning catching up) jiwoo has better placement than bae and there's no way in hell sullyoon is average she is still high W/A
@dynamiteplayer3440
Жыл бұрын
Correct✅✔
@amodinitankan8454
Жыл бұрын
What do these tiers mean?
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
This is according to your support range
@Nonamexxx.
7 ай бұрын
do you live in the Latata era? Minnie’s vocals haven’t been F+/E- for a long time now..
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
She hasn't support .... Because of her artistic choices (that I love !) She can't be higher
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
My ults are (G) I-DLE...
@sunstar_moomoo221
Жыл бұрын
Can you give me links about Ireh showed support ? BTW Dosie can support
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
I'm based on @srynotsorry analysis, look at the community onglet, there is a big ranking with explanations and some links in comments
@srynotsorry4628
Жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/rpdpuX-Nq4ido20 there are more, Ill make a purki ranking video soon where I will show other moments.
@dindapurki
Жыл бұрын
@@srynotsorry4628 looking forward to it, there are a lot of new vocal contents from them in this cabin fever era both on yt and twitter
@imfoive991
Жыл бұрын
Quick question, if Monday was included where would she be placed?
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
I don't know her vocal range with precision, but I think she will be at Ningning level
@imfoive991
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 ok thanks
@nswer_co.
Жыл бұрын
She'd be 4th
@imfoive991
Жыл бұрын
@@nswer_co. okay thanks
@liftedb9591
Жыл бұрын
Below Haewon, above NingNing
@achlysjayy6836
Жыл бұрын
Eunchae is E-
@ibas9491
5 ай бұрын
I think Kazuha should still be below Ryujin, Yuna, and Chaeryeong because Kazuha's vocals are very unstable, and for me Sakura's position should be ranked 32nd or 31st.
@Bluwie._.piixxee
7 ай бұрын
I think Yuqi is a D- now. (Correct me if im wrong)
@haje6679
Жыл бұрын
Yuqi>>Chaewon>=Lia> Yeji
@jenniekimstolemymoney4208
10 ай бұрын
Chaewon is better than all of them she has the most consistency with A4s
@jimbodanmori
9 ай бұрын
whats wrong with you putting minnie so low when her voice is so beautiful lmao
@elfy2006
9 ай бұрын
Her voice is def one of my fav but this is about technique
@osamaalqahtani5941
5 ай бұрын
aespa: the younger=the better😎🤟🏻
@elfy2006
5 ай бұрын
maknae line slayy
@osamaalqahtani5941
5 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 maknea+vocalist=vocanea❤️🔥🫦
@1uveriii
9 ай бұрын
Will eunchae be able to support soon
@elfy2006
9 ай бұрын
If she got some vocal training, this is possible, but she is actually too inconsistent
@GZaatrian
8 ай бұрын
The best: 1) Lily 2) Swan 3) lee goeun 4) Miyeon 5) Huh yunjin 6) Minnie 7) Yeji 8) Yuqi ______________ These are the most Unique and memorable voices i've ever heard in kpop .... *NingNing / Winter ( they are literally screaming more than singing ) * Lia has a unique but boring tone. * Hyewon/ Chaewon are the same . __________________
@elfy2006
8 ай бұрын
So you're speaking about your favourite vocalists, not the best
@bulbasaursroot5274
8 ай бұрын
*Haewon has left the chat*
@ihavealongd0123
Ай бұрын
Kid 😂
@_nayeononceyizz
Жыл бұрын
Ningning queen of vocal
@Kpoplinedistribution9
6 ай бұрын
Lia d/d+
@elfy2006
6 ай бұрын
No she doesn't have support above A4 and again
@pinklamborghini6446
10 ай бұрын
Dosie can support Kazhuha is F-/F
@VanessaMoser-fr4pl
Жыл бұрын
Shuhua is last?
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Yes, since she has a weak technic, pitch issue and weak live singing
@dumbdumbo7984
Жыл бұрын
Do haewon and lily have resonance?
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
I don't think no, the only 4th gen female idol that I know who can produce resonance is nayul. But maybe one day, they are really excellent vocalists
@horus7416
Жыл бұрын
Haewon is very very close
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@horus7416 yes, maybe one day both will have resonance
@ItzyMidzy_Spider
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006what the heck nayul is not even 4th gen bro 🤧
@bulbasaursroot5274
8 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006They have resonznt qualities but that's it
@velvetcatcher
8 ай бұрын
chae is not last in itzy, dosie is E, she’s better than ireh and minnie. chaein and kyujin would switch positions
@elfy2006
8 ай бұрын
check out my update ranking
@NonstopFFriday
6 ай бұрын
Solji : A
@elfy2006
6 ай бұрын
who is she ?
@NonstopFFriday
6 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 LOL. One of the best singers in KPop. You’re so ignorant about KPop.
@elfy2006
6 ай бұрын
@@NonstopFFriday did I said I know everything? Why being that rude ? This is about 4th gen girl groups that I stan, not every kpop idols.
@NonstopFFriday
6 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 You must be 92 years old. Get out of here old man.
@no4528
9 ай бұрын
Dosie is better than Jieun & Ireh, she's Purple Kiss 4th best vocalist (E+)
@ptmr9010
11 ай бұрын
chaer yuna>>>ryujin
@elfy2006
11 ай бұрын
No technically
@soyeonvsveggies
10 ай бұрын
nope, yuna >= ryujin > chaer
@dino.nuggies2382
Жыл бұрын
Chaein should be above swan imo
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Above swan ?!?!
@dino.nuggies2382
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 yeah- their pretty much equal chaeins lows r better than swans
@soyeonvsveggies
10 ай бұрын
yuqi > yeji
@gabsevil
Жыл бұрын
Ningning C+/B-
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
Not again but I think she is really close
@leonardoenrico2152
Жыл бұрын
Not yet
@user-tl8bt9rb5b
7 ай бұрын
Chaeryeong is closer to support than Yuna and Ryujin.
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
None of them are close
@joss07
Жыл бұрын
since i saw that chaeryeong (itzy) was at 29 i knew that this ranking was kinda bad
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
It's that she doesn't have a good technic
@befrr5
Жыл бұрын
Lia is D-
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
No she is E+
@befrr5
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 her supported range is a3-bb4.. her d3s and d4s are also shallow and close to support sometimes.. check your info
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@befrr5 Check yourself, you can ask to @hopeflakes. Maybe she had recent improvements but I never heard about that so...
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@befrr5 Lia has many decent A4, but I really don't think that she supports Bb4
@befrr5
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 why, don't you have your own info??? If I need to ask her, then I would watch her videos only.. why would I watch your video then???
@harukenb4406
7 ай бұрын
I am surprised yuqi is rank higher than her leader...
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
Are you serious ?
@harukenb4406
7 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 i just feel soyeon have a stronger voice and unique tone. I just watched both yuqi and soyeon lion solo and felt soyeon did better. Idk about singing techniques.
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
@@harukenb4406 well this ranking is about technique and Yuqi is obviously better
@harukenb4406
7 ай бұрын
Ok thanks. I genuinely thought soyeon is better previously... Lol guess we learn something everyday.
@mydxykpop
10 ай бұрын
Do u forget all the chaeryeong's high notes?
@elfy2006
10 ай бұрын
No. But they were all unsupported.
@soyeonvsveggies
10 ай бұрын
all strained
@yyjulius
7 ай бұрын
Isn't soyeon better? She's really good. And not sure but miyeon not better than Giselle?
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
This is mainly about support range but if it wasn't she would be higher, she has better live vocals or range than some higher here
@Hsupingyuanlovekpop
7 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006沒錯,是關於支援範圍,然後應該是音域穩定度的支援範圍!
@elfy2006
7 ай бұрын
@@Hsupingyuanlovekpop could you make an effort and speak english....
@beanluver6677
Жыл бұрын
Nope chaeryeong is an F+ gaining support and is 3/5 vocals In her group
@m.a2345
Жыл бұрын
But why the hell do you always forget about Pink Fantasy? Yechan and SeeA would easily be in the top 5
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
But why are you rude ? I put groups that I stan and that I know !
@m.a2345
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 Hm, sorry if that seems "rude" to you, I tend to use "but why the hell" normally LOL But anyway, there is no reason to make a video about the best vocalists of an entire generation with the excuse of being just a group that you are stan... That's what I meant!!!
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@m.a2345 This is not a video about the best vocalists. Read the title.
@koirvne
7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I listen a lot to aespa, but... Why is Hiselle overranked? She is good, but in no universe will she ever be above any main vocals~ except for a few.
@peruball2589
Жыл бұрын
Chaeryeong its better than ryujin lol and are on the same level than yuna
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
No, Ryujin and Yuna are F+ and more relaxed, and Chaeryeong is F
@dylantoo6347
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 Ryujin is not relaxed. She is still shaky and airy in her lower register so she is still below Chaeryeong
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@dylantoo6347 nope, she showed improvements recently
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@dylantoo6347 still above chae
@dylantoo6347
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 And what is that mister "improvements"
@MaxTheRealatable
5 ай бұрын
Lily is literally an A- wdym
@elfy2006
5 ай бұрын
So you think she is better than Wendy ?!
@MaxTheRealatable
5 ай бұрын
No Wendy's literal -A
@MaxTheRealatable
5 ай бұрын
@@elfy2006 Wendy is the vocal queen ofc She( Lily ) ain't better but she is the gen4 wendy
@elfy2006
5 ай бұрын
@@MaxTheRealatable I'm agree with you, but she is not A-
@elfy2006
5 ай бұрын
@@MaxTheRealatable she is high AA
@kevinabstract5508
8 ай бұрын
It's amazing how y'all overhyped kyujin vocal just because of that pre-debut cover, literally no one would rate her if people only heard her sing after debut.
@elfy2006
8 ай бұрын
Wdym ? Kyujin could be main vocalist in some groups
@user-gw8zl5nb9u
Жыл бұрын
Facke
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
?
@m363k4
Жыл бұрын
No hate but this is so baised
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
How ? This is based on vocal tier
@m363k4
Жыл бұрын
@@elfy2006 okay first of all sorry if that sounded disrespectful🫶but but how is Giselle in the top ten above miyeon, Yeji, lia, Karina, all of gidle members literally soyeon is a better vocalist than her still no hate I love them all including Giselle but most vocalists on this list are better than her 😭
@elfy2006
Жыл бұрын
@@m363k4 you don't sound disrespectful, don't worry :) The fact is that Giselle vocals are really underrated. She is above Karina because she is less throaty
@jenniekimstolemymoney4208
10 ай бұрын
@@m363k4 nobody in Gidle is better than Giselle
@m363k4
10 ай бұрын
@@jenniekimstolemymoney4208 in what category are we talking because I have a lot to say ☠️
@jrkln27
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Shuhua and Chaeryeong are better than Yuna and Ryujin
@elfy2006
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Nope, and clearly not shuhua. Chae and shuhua are F, Ryujin and Yuna are F+
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