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@edwardkosiewicz4435
Жыл бұрын
my choice would be your playing 7*
@kimberleygoodings1676
Жыл бұрын
Hi my father just passed who was a jazz and big band sax player and raising funds, do you know the best place to sell some mouthpieces, boxes of unopened reeds and so much jazz sheet music , its a tragedy to bin them cause i just dont know where we could sell them
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
@@kimberleygoodings1676 sorry I’m not sure. Try sax.Co.uk? Sorry to hear your news.
@grantkoeller8911
Жыл бұрын
Playing sax 50 years now, 23 years with USAF bands (age 60). I currently play, on tenor, a hard rubber Otto Link Tone Edge 8 slant signature reissue from 2008. Vandoren Green box Java 3.5, 1952 Selmer Super Balanced Action. Selmer 2 screw brass (Made in France) ligature.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Cool.
@grantkoeller8911
Жыл бұрын
Ideally, you would use different strength reeds for different tip openings.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Yup of course.
@HB-ve4wi
Жыл бұрын
I think the 9* is worth sticking with for a while. It's really singing!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@Radjammin
Жыл бұрын
Great Video guys, a rare tip opening comparison on the same mouthpiece. Very educational.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@eriksax
Жыл бұрын
The beauty of the sound on 7.5 and 8.5 is not duplicated when playing with the extreme openings at each end. Additionally, the loss of intonation control at the extreme end, 9.5, is only masked when playing special effects.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Sure thing.
@rd40082
2 ай бұрын
Really interesting hear how the volume of the sound changes
@GetYourSaxTogether
2 ай бұрын
Sure.
@paintingwithatwistfriendsw392
Жыл бұрын
I will be traveling to London on August 30 and visiting this store is on my bucket list!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@grantkoeller8911
Жыл бұрын
As a listener, I feel your absolute best sound for me was the 8* then the 7*, then the 9*, then the 6* and last was the 5*
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@fabricecarrere6107
Жыл бұрын
absolutely right ..... but would have needed a strength reed change to appreciate the 9* ( 2,5 S or M)
@morrischoo9717
Жыл бұрын
This is a great piece of information. Using a V16M6 now on alto. And a Meyer hard Rubber 6m on tenor. May Go 7 on the Yana A902 and 7 on the yts61. Like the openness of larger, but still researching for a darker sound for the 61. And a powerfull bottom with help in altissimo. It's work dialing in a tone..
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@marcosax5555
Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed. I am in the middle of a search for a new mouthpiece for my soprano!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@SaxWithShad
Жыл бұрын
It’s the *5 the tone colors are so subtle and nice there
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🙏
@grantkoeller8911
Жыл бұрын
Tenor Madness
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
😊
@TinelCH
Жыл бұрын
Jim looks like he is contemplating life choices haha
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@sax_n_axe
Жыл бұрын
That 6* growl @4:53ish sounds so amazing !!!!!! I hear a lot more “rumble” with the 6*
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@StephenB_LE9
Жыл бұрын
Interesting - you talked about aliasing, but ( and it may be a consequence of compression ) you didn’t explore the dynamics, pp to ff and say how you have to adjust. How easy is a pp bottom Bb on 5* vs 9* ? Ditto pp on top F# and altissimo with different tip openings.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Fair point. Maybe next time.
@lisawanderess
Жыл бұрын
I get misty watching this! I think with tip size it’s whatever you get used to as you said. I started with a 5, then tried several different mp’s including the Jody Jazz HR 7, but I found that mouthpiece just too big in my mouth, so went to David Zagars because I liked the narrower build, then decided I wanted to try metal so went for a Theo Wanne Durga 8* and found I needed a softer reed so use Legere Signature 2.25. Tried to use a 2.5 once when they’d sold out of 2.25s and ooosh! Such hard work on the embouchure!!! I gave up after a few minutes! Now I’m so used to my 8* I feel way too restricted and blocked on my mp’s with smaller tips, so yeah, I think the result of your experiment is that you play best on what you’re used to playing so the 8 sounded best to me!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@CKM1109
Жыл бұрын
Video idea! Same mouthpiece different reed hardness
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Done. That was the next video.
@johnmacneill9005
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it's a rare occasion when I have a bunch of mouthpieces to play through and compare. Would you consider doing a video on common issues (like squeaks, split notes, etc) and how they can be addressed with tip opening and/or reed strength?
@Osnosis
Жыл бұрын
And the funky 2nd octave G#!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@geoffcsax
Жыл бұрын
Good idea, tells something we've always wondered about and confirms some of our thoughts. I was interested to see the big jump in volume from 5* - 6*, I wonder if it's the same for other 'pieces.
@emusqueak
Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely - game changer if you’re playing lead alto/tenor or even Bari in a big band. I went from 6 to 8/9, athough like Jamie my 9 is real effort to play for long periods!!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
I suspect yes.
@bobblues1158
Жыл бұрын
I would suggest a harder reed for the smaller openings and a softer reed for the more open mouthpieces.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@richardolson8651
Жыл бұрын
I 've been working wit a set up that's hard for me to play. Stiffer reed and wider tip opening. What a work out. It takes a ton more air and works on my lip. I don't no if its helping. Anybody tried this. It's a workout for sure. Thanks Dick
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’re working too hard to me. Try a softer reed.
@grantkoeller8911
Жыл бұрын
The reed and the mouthpiece facing curve must work together. Like gears on a 10 speed bike. you need to shift to an easier gear. Like Jamie said, softer reed
@richardolson8651
Жыл бұрын
@@grantkoeller8911 Thanks. Makes sense.
@dizgil6881
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the info! ive played trumpet for a few years but been learning tenor sax for a couple months now. Didn't have many options to pick a first setup from, and ended up with a size 8.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
8 is wide for a beginner. At least make sure you’re using quite a soft reed.
@dizgil6881
Жыл бұрын
@@GetYourSaxTogether Think I wrote that comment in a moment of learners cope lol. Thanks for replying Jamie, I do use 2.5 and at least it makes me use a lot of air. Will probably try a yamaha 4c or something soon to check out the difference in air.
@patrickkelcey2435
Жыл бұрын
Dude listen up My teacher ran his own big bands for decades... What did he run... A Meyer 5... Maybe 6 but not really nessecary. The big openings ONLY started with the wankers who couldn't play in the 60's... ALL of your sound comes from your vocal tract.... that includes dynamics... Scott Paddock (I think that's how it's spelt) has an excellent video on focusing your sound. Hunt it up a check it out. It's vastly different to the trumpet... So much of what we do comes from within...
@dizgil6881
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickkelcey2435 so since posting that comment i ordered a smaller mouthpiece which arrived today... rico graftonite A5 and fobes debut. both are way smaller tip opening. But the biggest difference in effort and sound came from the 2nd thing i ordered. Legere 2.5 and 2.25. Being a complete noob and no teacher (yet) ive been using java green 2.5. Honestly man, although i could only try them for like 5 minutes, even with the drake 8 its a world of difference... Im thinking a lot of the struggles have come from not knowing how to maintain cane reeds. Ill probably stick with the smaller tips but still, im probably never going back to cane reeds lol... and hey! today its 2 months since getting the sax so still only beginning! this will probably be a huge change, and after work ill test all combinations.
@olebirgerpedersen
Жыл бұрын
To me the 8 star sounds the best. More round and very good in the low and second registre. And has a good security in high notes. No discussion !
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@diegojorge9659
Жыл бұрын
Well is not about about tip opening only, what about facing length, chamber shape, baffle, thickness of the rails. Even I woudl say than the king of curve every pierce has and the eveness of beach fracking curve. Any how really interesting video. Thanks so much guys.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Of course, you’re right.
@brianbillings6815
Жыл бұрын
Great video! I could definitely hear what you were hearing, volume and spread. Seems to me that a good bit of the choice comes down to one's sound concept. The larger tip openings may allow more interpretation but I have never cared for the reediness and lack of focus that comes through listening to a player with a really large opening. Ultimately, much is preference. Thanks again!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
👍
@ronhowe5933
Жыл бұрын
Superb and very valuable demonstration. Tough call on a fresh reed as well though meister !
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@aljerones99
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this experiment Jamie. It is very useful and informative. I saw a comment about changing the reed strength but I'm glad that all you did was to change one variable only (the tip opening). When too many things are changed, the experiment is not well controlled and the outcome is hard to assess. I saw another comment asking about the chamber and baffle. That was a useful query, I think. Hopefully, those other variables were the same (or close) across the mouthpieces to make the comparisons fair. I used to blow on a (Meyer) 5* tip opening on my tenor and I find that it no longer can handle the amount of air I push through it. At first I went up in reed strength but it only helped for a while and my sound was sharper. I switched to and have been playing on a 7* much more comfortably with my old reed strength. I had the same experience with my alto. I play on a size 6* on my soprano ( 2.5 and 3 strength reeds) and am still experimenting with my embouchure on that instrument to play with a good, consistent sound.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Alex 👍
@patrickkelcey2435
Жыл бұрын
Vandoren V16... VERY VERSATILE... Good for a number of applications... Oh yeah... T7 thank you..
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@ahorta63
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video about it. thanks. I have a HR 7 but my current mouthpiece it's a Ted Klum Florida 7
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@lyntedrockley7295
Жыл бұрын
Thats a great resource for comparing. Thanks Jamie. As you say all with the same reed. But its really the tip opening AND the reed strength that makes the 'ideal' combo for each player. A large opening and a soft reed compared to a small with hard reed would be a good comparison. Then theres the lay, short or long to allow the reed to flex. I know, this would take ages to do and be a faff in the shop but maybe something to consider for the future. Cannonball famously didn't use a hard reed. Perhaps a possible video might be a look at a number of famous player's setups.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
All true.
@JohnVaeth-gs3oe
Жыл бұрын
I love this video! But it did get me thinking, 99% of lay listeners could never hear the difference between any of these mouthpieces. So, it is a mental benefit for the player to play the mouthpiece that he, or she is most comfortable with maintaining the realization that your audience will not care. However, that comfort level could make you a more confident, expressive, and perhaps even more risk taking performer.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@martyg374
Жыл бұрын
I think it matters more to the player than the listener. I started on 5 as a teenager, a 6 in college, and now am an 8 guy on sop, alto, tenor. Reed really should be changed on different facings.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@paoloalbano4690
Жыл бұрын
Jamie, great video!!! Everything is right! Btw I play a normal hr OL 10* and I do have the volume and some edge (3-3,5 Vandoren ZZ Jazz)
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@grantwickens9274
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jim I noticed you added a volume graphic at the end of this video, would it be possible to include a sound wave graphic to indicate to us what you are describing when you talk about dark and bright sounds etc?. This may help us to grasp the subtle differences when you are compairing saxophones as well as mouthpieces too.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t really work like that grant. You can’t tell EQ by looking at a sound wave. Maybe a spectrograph.
@bsmith993
Жыл бұрын
Cool video. Exactly what I expected, but still so fascinating to hear and see it in action. I especially liked the volume comparison at the end. As a casual player who once played in a big band for a long time, I've always been a 7* kind of person. In times where one must "blend in" a bit more, like in concert band scenarios, would you see value in going with a smaller mouthpiece opening or just keeping the bigger piece controlled? i.e. As it comes to sound, intonation... is there an advantage in the smaller piece when that top end isn't needed? Thanks, Jamie!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
I use one mouthpiece for everything but there’s value in the scenarios you mentioned for sure.
@dennis524
4 ай бұрын
Wouild you think if you raised the reed strength on the 5* and 6* it would correlate with the 3M on the larger pieces as far as overall sound and playability? Thanks.
@GetYourSaxTogether
4 ай бұрын
That’s the received wisdom, yes.
@randycrumbaugh4708
Жыл бұрын
So Jamie. What is the actual mouthpiece and reed setups you use on both your Tenor and your Alto Saxophones. I have been watching lots of your videos and I am really impressed by you sound. I already play a 7*DV on my Cannonball Tenor and I love have for a long time so that isnt going to change. But I just got an older vintage Buescher 400 Alto Sax and I am exploring mouthpieces for it. What are you playing on your Alto? Thank you!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@samsanchez9526
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video 👍
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@youblumax
Жыл бұрын
@GetYourSaxTogether Very interest indeed to hear the difference of the various tip-openings. What I‘d like to see/hear/understand (as a Tenor-Sax beginner playing since nearly 2years - starting with 53…) is how to find the best combo - also in term of which reed-strength works out best for me.
@frankversteeg8107
Жыл бұрын
I myself started at the age of 50, just 2 days ago turned 53, so my answer to you is....... experimenting, that way, you will find out what is best working for you, hope this helps.
@youblumax
Жыл бұрын
@@frankversteeg8107 …yes - that’s what I do still 👍🏻
Hi Jamie! Great video, as usual. Did i miss it.... did you say what size you normally play? Thanks!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
8*
@dcp8nts
Жыл бұрын
@@GetYourSaxTogether Thanks Jamie! I'm still on a 5. I wonder if i should try a 6.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
@@dcp8nts suck it and see. Or blow it and see I guess!
@jnk7237
Жыл бұрын
I would expect that the chamber and baffle are all pretty much the same on the mouthpieces you played since they were all the same model. What about the facing length? Did Jody Jazz increase it as the tip openings increased? Or did it stay constant?
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Have no idea about the facing length or curve I’m afraid.
@Twinkie1960
Жыл бұрын
usin tha hr 7 for alto & tenor nowadayz….likewize for tha superjet set…
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@HahnJames
Жыл бұрын
My sound preferences varied depending upon what you were playing. I generally stayed with the 6*, 7* and 8* though. On my soprano, I use a Yamaha 5C and an OttoLink 6S which I really like.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@sfusa391
Жыл бұрын
I play a baritone sax… currently using a Yamaha 5C, but looking for something a bit louder… Any recommendations?
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
I play a Yanagisawa MP on bari. They’re good. Or JodyJazz.
@xxczerxx
Жыл бұрын
I always thought my sound "concept" would become more elaborate over time (bigger projection, scoops etc) so early on I played wider tips in anticipation of that, but I've seemingly shrunk my idea of what sounds good to a very "small" sound.... Art Pepper, Paul Desmond, Lee Konitz etc. Weird how that happens on saxophone, I wonder if it's something to do with your eventual "voice" matching your personality? I used to think this about guitar, I don't do flashy playing (even though I admire it etc) because I don't have a flashy persona.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory 👍
@robstevens9590
Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison of different tip openings. Question: are the chambers and baffles basically the same on all these mouthpieces? I haven't been to London in decades, but if I do pass that way I would love to spend a day at the shop.
@frankversteeg8107
Жыл бұрын
they where all the same type of mpc from Jody Jazz, so to my knowledge, only the tipopening differs
@robstevens9590
Жыл бұрын
@@frankversteeg8107 That's my assumption as well. Just asked to make sure.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m not sure if any of that changes as the tip opens up.
@instrumentalheadquarters7062
Жыл бұрын
Ive been playing on a 5* daddario select jazz marble for about a year now. I am getting to a limit on the sound I can push out of the horn. I have tried a few 6*s and they dont seem to be that much of a difference. I think I should get a 7. I need something that works for big band playing but also soloing and to play rip roaring solos.
@mattrovine9644
Жыл бұрын
I went from a Daddario Jazz select in 5c to a 7c 56 from Wind City Wood winds. I needed to lower my reed strength from a 3 to a 2.5, but overall I like the 7 tip opening way more. I feel like I have more control over my sound and it's just way more fun to play on.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Yeh give it a whirl!
@stack80
Жыл бұрын
I got a question. I am 12 years old and I’ve played alto for 3.5 years. I’m playing on a Yamaha 4c. I want a syos because they look cool. But some people recommend Jody Jazz HR with 5 tip opening. Do you have any recommendations for me?
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
I would never recommend a mouthpiece to you cos it’s very personal. I like and own both. SYOS and a Jody though so they’re both great. Try them first.
@DirtyRed
3 ай бұрын
Man I just went from a STM 404 7* to a Vandoren Ebonite V16 T9 Medium Chamber and that mf is kicking my a**. I purchased some rigotti gold 3M reeds thinking I could play them cause I'm good with all ddarrio reeds that are 3M on the 7* and boy was I mistaken. My embrouchure is taking beating. That box of reeds was too expensive is there any way I could get them to flex a bit more so they don't go to waste. I may need to drop all the way to a 2.5 or something. Got a show next month on the 21st and really wanted my sax to sing but I don't know if I'm gonna be ready at this rate. What do you guys suggest. Should I just stick with my 7* till after my show or should I stick it out with the T9 and just gitgud?
@GetYourSaxTogether
3 ай бұрын
Just use whatever is comfortable dude. No need to bust a gut. Keep those harder reeds in case you ever get a narrow tip mp. 👍🏻
@halfabee
Жыл бұрын
I purchased two Legere Classic reeds (Number 2) one for Tenor Sax the other for Alto Sax. I have the same Otto Link Mouthpiece for Tenor and Alto. (Tip opening 7). All purchased from Sax UK. I can blow the Tenor Sax and obtain a reasonable sound. The Alto with it's Otto Link Mouthpiece (7 tip opening) and Legere Classic reed I can not obtain a sound from. I normally play a Select filed Jazz 2.0 reed. Or Vandoren V15 No 2. Any clues??
@frankversteeg8107
Жыл бұрын
yep, i have a clue, lower the tip opening on the alto, had similar experience, and wonder, how i could possibly match the easyness of playing the tenor, but than on alto, and i didn't even use the same tip opening, still had to go lower on the alto
@Osnosis
Жыл бұрын
Or use American Cut on the alto; I use Signature cut on tenor.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Sounds obvious but it’s likely your reed choice imho.
@paulgeiger6177
Жыл бұрын
It’s Freddy Kruegers Fingers! Great demo but. Little hard to hear on phone!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@johnvallis7223
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Jamie! I should know this by now, but what does the * (star) indicate? Cheers!
@joseluishinojosa5964
Жыл бұрын
Hi John, I believe the * symbolizes a half step. So, a 7* tip opening would be a 7.5 tip opening.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Jose is correct. Thanks both!
@thomasschneider1785
Жыл бұрын
Jamie can you look into tip opens for Soparno I have a Syos .070 I think but I am looking for a bigger sound, no bright, not nasally, nice sound Paul Desmond like Can you go to .080 or .090 Help ???
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
I guess just try them and see how you get on. Better for you to test it than me! 😊
@thomasschneider1785
Жыл бұрын
Thanks but you didn’t answer the question for us out here Oh well laugh it off
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasschneider1785 I didn’t answer the question because I can’t choose a mouthpiece for YOU my friend. You need to try these tip openings yourself and find a reed that matches and see if you like it. I could try a different tips on soprano but that’s not to say that’ll be right for you. 🤷🏻
@MarkCasey-ub8sp
Жыл бұрын
I guess it's hard to look positive whilst thinking about the re-stocking fee and the disinfecting process ahead of him.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
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@GetYourSaxTogether
8 сағат бұрын
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@grantkoeller8911
Жыл бұрын
The Mouthpiece tip opening controls dynamic potential.
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@jonathanbieniada1797
Жыл бұрын
What's the name of that first tune you played?
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Em, there was Tenor Madness, Misty, and some random stuff.
@jonathanbieniada1797
Жыл бұрын
@@GetYourSaxTogether Thank you!!
@ruthwebber2803
Жыл бұрын
Night train blues forester
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
😎
@yvonnecamacho9902
Жыл бұрын
J J mouthpieces are notoriously inconsistently different from one another, despite what the designer says about them…..so were Otto Links since 1931 forward! (I’ve got Links from each decade to illustrate just that). If you’re a saxophonist, the “feel” of each mouthpiece as regards sound colors and intonation/response is talked about here……but not enough. Also Joe Allard taught me the vital role of an informed/enlightened/educated player in all of this, and you ain’t gonna make a quickie video of that!
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Hey Yvonne! Fair points. I don’t think anyone expects to learn mastery from a quick KZitem video - they shouldn’t anyway! However, maybe some people will feel SLIGHTLY more informed and educated. Not sure about enlightened! Thanks for watching.
@kscotthume
Жыл бұрын
Interesting, although you seem more comfortable (all around) on the 8*, your "growling" section sounded better on the 7*. KZitem sound, maybe...
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
YT does compress the audio, but with headphones you will hear more subtlety.
@frankversteeg8107
Жыл бұрын
Jamie, Freddy Krueger, Anderson🤣😂
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@grantkoeller8911
Жыл бұрын
Misty
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
😊
@emusqueak
Жыл бұрын
Game changer if your playing lead in a big band. Upgrade to 7/8 - even on Bari, a 7/8 is going to give you that oomph without the effort of a 6. Then there’s tone chambers and baffles too…..
@Osnosis
Жыл бұрын
Playing lead tenor; need to both subtone and play under the lead slo AND play forcefully when soloing. Generally I am on 7*
@GetYourSaxTogether
Жыл бұрын
Yeh it never ends.
@simonsimon5124
Жыл бұрын
7 ok. 8 is too much.
@GetYourSaxTogether
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👍🏻
@MrNicoJac
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I'm pretty sure I have a 4* mouth piece though.... 🤔
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