Literally my favorite part of commander is when a card that is mostly useless becomes a powerhouse combined with the right commander.
@mibbzx1493
Ай бұрын
Except leveler with beamtown bullies
@jeremiahchamberlain4179
Ай бұрын
@@mibbzx1493 thats fair, a bit miserable to watch of rest the of the game because beamtown sprayed leveler all over your board.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
I like that too, except for the part where that card is now crazy expensive when it was dirt cheap before 💀
@jeremiahchamberlain4179
Ай бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 by it before the spike or wait a couple months and the price usually drops back down.
@croppingchair5538
Ай бұрын
The disrespect on shuko, even before Nadu it was great with cephalid illusionist
@PsychoDiesel48
Ай бұрын
And Koll the Forgemaster.
@dyciefisk2535
Ай бұрын
Nobody sees a Shuko and expects anything fair from it. This is why when they printed Leather Armour, another equipment that warrents an equip zero, they learned their lesson and made it once a turn.
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
Nadu is really about to become one of the most annoying commanders from this set
@carterharris334
Ай бұрын
The most annoying of the year, imo.
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
@@carterharris334 we still got a lot of year left to make that statement, but of the year so far yes
@carterharris334
Ай бұрын
@@zakbrooks7354 you are 100% correct
@Oxygen1004
Ай бұрын
Agreed, I hate how they are printing "Value engines and literally nothing else" commanders. Like make it an explore trigger and suddenly it can end games instead of making 30 minute turns that might end the game
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
@@Oxygen1004 it's like they don't know how else to make a simic commander. All of them that are good are either major cost reduction, or some kind of "draw a card for doing x thing" type of effects. Nadu just takes it over the top since you can also run other value commanders like Aesi for even more card draw. It's becoming a major problem
@mikeblanchard931
Ай бұрын
Shuko was already part of an infinite combo with Koll the forgemaster
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
From what I understand, that infinite takes a lot of cards to pull off unlike Nadu which only requires him and shuko to as well as and number of other creatures
@PsychoDiesel48
Ай бұрын
Yeah. I bought that card months ago for that very reason XD
@noahpotts4947
Ай бұрын
Shuko + cephallid illusionist + grolnok + lab man
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
@@noahpotts4947 what is this supposed to do?
@Michael-Hammerschmidt
Ай бұрын
@@zakbrooks7354 Win the game on the spot. Mill your entire deck by reequipping Shuko to cephallid illusionist while grolnok is in play means you can play lab man, or Thassa's Oracle from exile. This is similar to the strategy of the tier 1 Legacy combo deck called Cephalid Breakfast.
@TheBarvaz
Ай бұрын
I actually really like it when commanders make niche cards great. Sometimes I build an entire deck because a specific interaction intrigues me enough.
@respectblindfolds7411
Ай бұрын
This feels more like an ad for MH3
@DiverseCurse
Ай бұрын
"Shuko, the equipment everyone forgot about..." Cephalid Illusionist: Am I a joke to you?
@landenisalive7182
Ай бұрын
Shuko has always been busted with cephalid breakfast
@andresicuro
Ай бұрын
My favorite card of this kind os Bootleger's Stash. People thought it would destroy commander but then realized it kinda sucks, but in a Mazirek deck this card lives up to people's early expectatives
@NitpickingNerds
Ай бұрын
Bootlegger's is one of my favorite "the sky is falling" cards of all time
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
With regards to shuko, let this be a lesson to us all: Anything free with no once per turn or can untap things IS a combo piece, its other parts may or may not exist yet but it is (or will be) a combo piece
@AFailedTuringTest
Ай бұрын
its been part of the cephalid breakfast combo in legacy for decades
@longdangley
Ай бұрын
This effect would be bad even at once per turn
@danielcunningham4339
Ай бұрын
Alright, I'm half asleep rn, but I gotta ask if the commander has a 2* per turn limit how does it "draw half your deck"? I'm genuinely curious 🧐
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
@@danielcunningham4339 Because if the commander leaves the field and comes back, the "twice per turn" is reset. Your other creatures lose that ability as the commander leaves, and as the commander re-enters it gains a new instance of that ability without any memory of how many times each creature you control has used it.
@danielcunningham4339
Ай бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 yeah, thanks. I completely blanked on that 🤣
@Mecal00
Ай бұрын
I was building a budget low to the ground Isamaru deck and Shuko would have been perfect - now it's out of reach 😔
@joshuaspector8182
Ай бұрын
I don’t think it will stay up there. I think it’s new hotness syndrome.
@roberthastings5969
Ай бұрын
The locust land goes crazy in Orvar as well
@TheBoatis
Ай бұрын
Shuko has been an easy Cephalid Breakfast enabler since Thassa's Oracle came out.
@ashtonbrockway9312
Ай бұрын
The balls for a commander player to go around and call cards like Ghoulcaller's Bell "bad" is actually mindblowing. I think outside of commander, all the commanders you showed combined get less play in modern than the bell does. You need to contextualize these shorts better and do a lil research outside of commander. Haven't you seen the Rhystic Studies video?
@klashslash6919
Ай бұрын
Bro really mentioned cloudpost and didnt say orvar 😂
@PsychoDiesel48
Ай бұрын
I played against a guy with an Orvar deck a few times. That shit is scary even when copying normal islands
@SwedeRacerDC
Ай бұрын
Illusion of choice is an all star in any voting matters deck, which Tivit is great as. Council's Judgment is normally going to be a two or three for one depending on how people band together, but it all of a sudden becomes a 5 for 1 removal piece in Tivit with illusion of choice.
@bobjohnson113
Ай бұрын
Thats why I like Rielle. She makes cards like turbulent dreams and firestorm dangerous cards
@ChromeAnubis
Ай бұрын
Have a high power Tivit list and love casting Illusion of Choice into expropriate with the “vote an additional time” cards
@dragonfire72
Ай бұрын
Segovian Angel is also amazing in decks with OG Odric and the Partner Akroma, since it gets +2/+2 and gives your board flying and vigilance.
@MisterJackTheAttack
Ай бұрын
Segovian Angel is also in my Rograkh and Akroma deck. She becomes a 3/3 flier for 1 cmc.
@johnstarinieri7360
Ай бұрын
Tivit and Illusion of Choice also go infinite alongside Deadeye Navigator. Since you choose all the tokens made you can make enough for infinite mana and card draw
@DarklyDreaming24
Ай бұрын
My table moans when I cast Expropriate in my Tivet deck, they scoop when I cast illusion of choice after it is on the stack
@pseudohippie55
Ай бұрын
One of my friends has a Tivit ceck with Illusion of Choice. If they're out with Smothering Tithe, he can get more treasure than Smaug in 2 turns.
@mc-rap2035
Ай бұрын
Shuko is a cephalid breakfast allstar, definitely not forgotten.
@isaacmg9213
Ай бұрын
Naaah dog, Shuko its been my mvp card in my Elsha of the infinite Voltron deck since 2018, Nadu here discovering a cool underground band and claiming it hahahaha
@Case2_0
Ай бұрын
Need to look through my old cards for Shuko. I probably have a few
@wesleyrandall4627
Ай бұрын
Who forgot about shuko? Cephalid breakfast is a thing lol
@baconsir1159
Ай бұрын
Illusion of Choice also turns Tivit into a sort-of Dockside for combo purposes
@Rapandreas
Ай бұрын
Ghoulcaller's bell is also pretty nice in Captain N'gharthrod decks
@dantherepoman1967
Ай бұрын
Illusion of choice is my favorite card to pair with Expropriate. It's like just pour a whole box of salt onto the battlefield.
@joedominguez8064
Ай бұрын
Illusion of choice wins me the game in my Cirdan the Shipwright deck
@ObviouslyDiego
Ай бұрын
I love Shuko, I use it on my Koll combo deck
@starblissed
Ай бұрын
I was goldfishing the Omo precon last night and had Cloudpost, a copy of Cloudpost, and 3 everything lands for 13 mana on turn 4, absolutely cracked combo
@jaykay3784
Ай бұрын
I've played against the Cloudpost/Omo setup and it's tough. With that in mind, kill the frog.
@HRPufnsting
Ай бұрын
Koll was breaking Shuko for years before Nadu got attention
@DoodleHats
Ай бұрын
WTF thank you for letting me know my pile of Shukos are worth hundreds of dollars lol
@ImAussieMate
12 күн бұрын
I've been using shuko on wyleth soul of steel. It's at minimum a cantrip on him lol.
@jackbuggeln4870
Ай бұрын
God illusion of choice is so good in tivit even if you have no other voting cards. if you assume the average tivit vote is 2 treasures and 3 clues (it should be), illusion of choice turns it into 5 treasures, aka spend 1 mana to get 3 mana, or the same rate as dark ritual. Except it also draws you a card, the mana sticks around and can tap for any color. But if you really need to dig and have plenty of mana you can force an all clue vote to refill your hand And at it's worst its still a 1 mana cantrip you can use early game to hit a land drop. An auto include in any tivit deck imo
@nosrenda1014
Ай бұрын
I love casting illusion of choice into expropriate
@NovaraLilDizz
Ай бұрын
Also, cloudpost is great in ovar the all form
@ROCKKILLSPOP
Ай бұрын
I really got to build a new deck
@Starshots_Sanctum
Ай бұрын
Cloudpost is also very good with Orvar
@qlcrane8019
Ай бұрын
How is Shuko forgotten when Cephalid Breakfast has been a top deck in legacy for ages
@jessesutton7985
Ай бұрын
Excuse me, Shuko is how much? I gotta take a trip to storage and rip through some boxes. I feel like I've probably got like a dozen at least.
@MadnessOpus
29 күн бұрын
Illusion of Choice + Expropriate.
@jacobbrown9894
Ай бұрын
Shaku was used in cephalid breakfast style combos for a while now wasn’t it
@nelsikegaming
Ай бұрын
How does Shuko draw your deck if it only triggers twice per turn?
@Aad-xv9fh
Ай бұрын
Just Shuko and Nadu is not a combo, as you need another creature (preferably one that creates a creature token on landfall) to equip shuko to and get the max amount of triggers.
@PurpleTentacle17
Ай бұрын
The bell is used by new tinybones
@zackman_ssbu
27 күн бұрын
How does shuko do that all by itself it says twice per turn
@ROCKKILLSPOP
Ай бұрын
What do you guys think about the magic mobile?
@alexroel123
Ай бұрын
Wrong, ghoulcallers bell is used in Syr Konrad for ages. Also works with the master transcendent (fallout)
@TheIhplodur
Ай бұрын
Of course Illusion of choice only works with a Lot of Vote cards.
@nicholasfarrell5981
Ай бұрын
2 of these are literally Legacy staples (and Cloudpost is banned in Modern for being Tron-er than Tron), so I don't know how you can say all of these are bad.
@zeka2255
Ай бұрын
Doesn't Nadu's effect says it triggers only twice each turn? I don't understand how can this be infinite.
@gypsieking3280
Ай бұрын
Twice each turn is on your creatures so you get something like a scute swarm or some other token creator and go brrrr
@BlitzkriegBryce
Ай бұрын
Why is Shuko so expensive when you can do the same thing with Lightning Greaves? Sure, LG costs one more to cast but it has much better abilities.
@MTGFaded
Ай бұрын
add the words “in commander” because Cephallid Breakfast will bitch slap you for saying Shuko is bad
@JamesThompson-zu3bq
Ай бұрын
Calling cloud post awful is crazzzyy
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
He said awful *if you can only run one.* Big difference in that and calling it straight garbage
@markcooper4876
Ай бұрын
Can't Nadu only activate twice per turn, regardless of how many times Shuko is moved?
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
He gives creatures you control that ability, so each creature gets two triggers. So, for example, if you have four creatures, you get eight triggers
@jostkohler-kae2997
Ай бұрын
1 Drop 1/1 flying, vigilance, awful Card ?
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
In commander yes. What is it gonna do, pressure 1 opponent for 1 damage?
@jostkohler-kae2997
Ай бұрын
@@zakbrooks7354 Its just not awful. You can say its not that good, but not its awful. You have a flying blocker. You can deal 1 damage and can block afterwards. Thats more than the most 1 Drops can do for you.
@dave7592
Ай бұрын
Dunno if I'd say cloudpost is bad
@chepawam
Ай бұрын
Nadu 30 dollars??? Lol the usa and theyr prices... Nadu 13€ on card market.
@sillylung
Ай бұрын
How does the shuko/nadu combo work because nadu says you can only do it twice per turn? What am i missing here
@francisserpa4465
Ай бұрын
You can draw your deck... eventually. 2 cards at a time
@dontstealmydiamondsv3156
Ай бұрын
It's not a 2 card infinite. I think beezy was just using hyperbole since it's such an absurd amount of value that it basically serves the same purpose as an infinite. (Nadu's ability triggers twice _per creature)_
@sillylung
Ай бұрын
@@dontstealmydiamondsv3156 ok so I didn't miss anything
@marthblood9991
Ай бұрын
You’re thinking too small with illusion of choice cast it then stick an expropriate and watch everyone scoop
@PogMcDog
Ай бұрын
Lmao tivit? What about 4 extra turns?
@islarf5095
Ай бұрын
here's a cool one for this. Soulbright Flamekin. a 2 mana red creature it reads "(2): Target creature gains trample until end of turn." but if you activate this same ability 3 times in a turn, you get 8 red mana back. so if you have this in Zirda, you get to turn 3 mana into 8 mana! (instead of 6 into 8)
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
I was actually thinking about making a Zirda Bobbleheads deck, and that actually sounds really good in there. Making 8 mana to trigger my abilities with
@Polfor
Ай бұрын
Pretty unknown combo (still 12% of decks) , retribution in a Zaxara deck. Control the whole table with basically 1B kill any creature without hexproof
@jimdee5319
Ай бұрын
Man I am kind of sick of commander all the time.
@zakbrooks7354
Ай бұрын
Just in general or on this channel specifically? Cuz if it's just for the channel, then you may want to find someone else
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