How have been your experience with the DLC so far? Found it easy, hard, really hard? Have the set pieces and lore gave you awnsers you were looking for? Leave it down in the comments.
@axd2155
3 ай бұрын
Fun fact you can see 2 of placi heads in bayle nick one closer to his head in his right and the other neer his left wing
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
@@axd2155 Holy Shit!! you are right hahaha well done
@TheVeldoran
3 ай бұрын
The new Marika lore in the Shaman Village with her people being used by the hornsent as sacrifices to create saints gives her great motivations to have messmer war with them as well as reasons why she even dislikes her own omenchildren. What we find out during the ymir quest line about the mother of fingers and daughter of the greater will is also insane.
@Xalocin
3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Easily the best part for me. Those first steps into shaman village and hearing THE music were incredible. You automatically know you walked into a very important place
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
I found that village a few days, it hit me like a truck when i figured out the erdtree sentinels were not there to guard the finger ruins, they were there to guard their monarch's home. And to think Marika would birth omen children one day, the mightiest of them no less. What irony of fate. Edit: working on a video about it btw😬
@Interdimensional_rell
3 ай бұрын
7:13 so this shot right here is the scorpion lady holding that bud that would eventually become her spear that’s cool as hell
@Moss_and_Such
3 ай бұрын
Learning about Bayle was a welcome surprise. It really fleshed out the dragon situation in the game. What a cool sequence.
@peteybakedziti8908
3 ай бұрын
Craziest lore reveal for me was finding out Miquella cast away his "love" in pursuit of godhood. I was really hoping he'd be an altruistic character in a world full of awful demi gods but he ended up being the most evil of them all
@DomsGameRoom
3 ай бұрын
He’s literally Griffith
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
To be fair, in the base game I was already suspicious of him and his "benevolence". It always felt too convenient. In no time the dude had an army, a country and a plan for godhood. I studied political science and trust me, no one get those by "just being kind". I would not call him evil, I would call him brutally pragmatical. To me, he genually cared for only 3 things: His sister, himself and his ambitions. his parallels to Griffith are not accidental.
@peteybakedziti8908
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN yeah it was suspicious how Miquella had such a huge following to the point of having a personal army guarding the haligtree and elphael. I was just hoping From would've subverted the expectation like how they did with Artorias back in DS1.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
@@peteybakedziti8908 I feel that this time it was too much on the nose to pull off a stunt with Miquella. They did with Radahn, which to me was the weirdest narrative decision to make. Including him in the end of the dlc felt weird.
@peteybakedziti8908
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN yeah seriously, if you told me a year ago that the dlc would be about Miquella reviving his dead brother had he loved and looked up to, id expect to find Godwyn the Golden at the end. It would've been nice if even one item description hinted at their close relationship kinda like how the rings of light mention Miquella and Radagons bond. Though tbh I like to think Radahn was against Miquella entirely, or at least post shattering
@animeproblem1070
3 ай бұрын
There's 5 pieces of information that when put together explain exactly why Marika hates the hornsent so much and sent Messmer to purge them 1. Is the Shaman Village location 2. Is the Minor Erdtree incantation 3. Is Marika's hair braid 4. Is the tooth whip 5. The ghost next to the tooth whip When you put it together you can figure out a lot of her story
@geordiejones5618
3 ай бұрын
It doesn't justify her several genocides, but it at least shows she wasn't evil just for the fun of it. I still think she's worse than Miquella or anyone else.
@animeproblem1070
3 ай бұрын
@@geordiejones5618 Miquella is a parallel of her journey he's literally a view of her story following the same path thinking he'll be different when the outcome would be the same his order built upon a sin the desecration of Mohgs body and soul his god hood claimed by abandoning the things he should have kept You have to see what the game is hinting at why is Radagon who is a part of Marika not a god yet after the shattering qualifies he was the other self she abandoned to seek her god hood and she rejoined with him after returning from the gate of divinity
@Turner6277
3 ай бұрын
@@animeproblem1070 Spicy sir. V spicy.
@BIGMASOOD413
2 ай бұрын
@@geordiejones5618dude nothing justify that,nothing justify hornsent genocide either it's just a cycle of death,vengeance and haterd BUT WE COULD STOP IT BY THE MAY CAUSE TAKE THE WORLD OR GOLDMASK ENDING BEST ENDINGS HANDS DOWN
@slavicsandvich5967
3 ай бұрын
Reminder for those who haven't noticed yet, that while Bayle indeed is heavily injured (his right leg and wings, in this case), he is still proud enough to wear the 2 severed heads of of Placidusax on his back. Hard Freaking Core
@consolemans
3 ай бұрын
I think the coffin's being filled with what seems like gunk that may have inspired the mimic tech of Nox, seems pretty interesting since it looks like space ships filled with organic stuff that crash landed long ago and life forms emerged from the stuff.
@mmyr8ado.360
3 ай бұрын
They look more like galleys than space ships. Also, where are the bulls in the game?
@valentinvas6454
3 ай бұрын
I would add another one. According to Ymir and Mother Finger staff item description the two fingers were false prophets and didn't even get messages from the Greater Will. Marika built the Golden Order on complete BS. And 250 IQ Miquella figured this out that's why he wanted to become the new God.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
I did not reach that part of the DLC when I made the video 😅. But I have to disagree with one thing, they are not false prophets, they are assholes. Manipulators through and through since they could actually communicate with the greater will. Even the Mother of fingers received messages from it. Hell, the damn thing even sent the elden beast to the lands between. The Golden order was not all bullshit but Marika definetly took advantage of its hypocrisies.
@ll-ll5gt
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN from what i understood: -mertyr is the daughter of the GW and had contact with the GW and worked to make marika a god -she gives birth to the two fingers(TF) -the two fingers receives instructions from mertyr,and mertyr received messages from the GW -Mertyr loses contact with the GW,Mertyr goes insane,the TF cant contact mertyr anymore and create a bunch of BS to tell to marika -Marika see through all the BS and realizes that the order she tried to create for so long was a lie and that she was manipulated by the two fingers the whole time -shatters the elden ring to escape her destiny
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
@@ll-ll5gt Good theory, the only thing that I would say in response that may get in the way is Marika's own strenght. Don't forget, the reason we do what we do is because of her powers, he grace, her foresight. She is likely more powerfull than us, so how the fuck do you imprission a being like that? The two fingers are not that powerfull but what I do think they can do, and do better than their mother, is to interpret the wishes of the GW. Remember that the GW sent the elden beast to the lands between, just thinking of its existance makes the mother of fingers quite redundant, perhaps thats why she can't interpret the GW anymore, at least as well as her children. She outlived her usefullness. I think Marika just realized in the end the insanity of following a being that cares not for who follows it, even if it granted god like powers to her
@ll-ll5gt
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN thank you for your insight,now i think this solves my theory. However i believe that Marika was the brain,and Radagon was her strenght marika ascended to goodhood with the help of metyr and GW,and GW left the elden beast as a vessel to keep the lands between in check. however,seeing all the atrocities marika and metyr has done,i think the GW was disgusted and left. Metyr and the elden beast were both confused since they lost contact with the greater will,but,just like messmer they continued doing their jobs. However,metyr went insane and the two fingers lost contact with metyr and went into confusion,alongside marika. from what i understood GW-->metyr-->two fingers-->Marika Marika in order to create a bright order full of positivity,has done tons of wars,murdered tons of people and races,just as she was told to do by the two fingers,veiled the lands of shadow to hide her crimes. However when she realized that the two fingers had no idea what they were doing,she realized that her order was a lie and was lost in depression
@66something_77
3 ай бұрын
Where did the giant slug come from then
@rainer9931
3 ай бұрын
Messmers Kindling is by FAR the biggest item desc for me. Linking him to Melina, and potentially linking both of them to the Fell God is fucking nutty. 1. Warm colored hair 2. Vision of fire/connection to fire 3. One eye, or one eye and one sealed eye Coincidence? Edit: ALSO the drop in Radahns new armor is INSANE
@valteth
3 ай бұрын
One thing that was revealed about Trina is that she was Miquellas "humanity", his ability to love and care. If you complete a quest line related to her she outright tells you that Miquella shed so much of himself that what was left was a shell and she asks you to kill him describing it as a mercy to do so.
@PeacefulSerb
3 ай бұрын
Exactly, history repeats itself. What we find in the Erdtree is exactly that a hollow shell of Marika that can only fit Elden Ring inside, there's literally no room for anything else in her. She was a shackled slave whose task was to produce successors. In this DLC we literally see step by step guide how to become a god in this world. Shed everything and become a vessel for an outer god. It's sickening! I'm so glad that we got to kill them all and that will broke the cicle with Ranny.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
True, her questline when including Thiollier in it reveals she was a part of Miquella indeed. The dude turned himself into a monster in order to be a god.
@josephdellavecchia7828
3 ай бұрын
The dragon Lore was amazing. Learning about the fingers was really neat. I have so many questions about miquella, malenia, radahn, godwyn, and the gloam eyed queen.
@andreaven2287
3 ай бұрын
The plot device of making everything an event erased from history is really practical and clever when you think about it.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
True, it is what made their stories so appealing after all but it can be a nuisance when trying to put a cohesive timeline together. But that is not fromsoft's job lol
@andreaven2287
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN He kinda is tbh haha... The Miquella storyline was a bit disapoiting but the reveals about the lore in general are substancial. And nobody said it was the last DLC !
@ll-ll5gt
3 ай бұрын
@@andreaven2287 unfortunately miyazaki did say SOTE is the only dlc ER will get,im sorry man
@andreaven2287
3 ай бұрын
@@ll-ll5gt Oh shit... Damn, I didnt know...
@NetoJ0N
3 ай бұрын
I believe miquella story is a tragedy, maybe he started good, but trying to help and trying to be better he lost himself, like darth vader, I just cant see him thinking about only control and power, I believe he was really trying to help, but lost himself
@CoffeeBrainzz
3 ай бұрын
1 also detail that Melina And Messimer that you missed was their FATHER! which i believe was Midras, The Lord of Frenzy Flame. Thats why Messmer has his own wild fire as well as Melina able to become kindling, due to their fathers genes
@DaddySaddo
3 ай бұрын
Midras wife is Nanaya
@richardrussel4567
3 ай бұрын
@koayuoo what if that was marikas name before she became a God? Sounds very villager like.
@todd2.08
3 ай бұрын
He’s not, if we assume he was harboring the Frenzied Flame when he umm, did the dew with Marika then there wouldn’t be a kid. The frenzied flame is against all births
@FlyingFox86
3 ай бұрын
Concerning Bayle, he looks quite a bit different from other dragons. In fact, he reminds me of dragonkin soldiers, or what a dragonkin soldier would look like if they weren't failed imitations of dragons.
@stealthy9754
3 ай бұрын
Or maybe the golden order and the house of Caria conflict happen because of Rellana and Messmer relationship, so Rennala isn't the only sister with a thing for red hair huh...
@FireFlyLp100
3 ай бұрын
u can see placidusex heads on bayles body, btw
@unknownbenefactor8029
3 ай бұрын
When I heard of Bayle lore.... I always pictured their fight as Godzilla vs Ghidorah. With Bayle being Godzilla and Plausiduseax being Ghidorah.
@matheusbonotto7548
3 ай бұрын
Cara, bom de mais essa DLC. Uma curiosidade que curti muito é q a Ranala tem uma irmã, e isso nunca foi mencionado antes pelo que tenho acompanhado! achei o Dragão the Great Dread parecido com uma corija kk , o Trina's Truth me lembra os decaptados de Sekiro, sera que viajei muito aqui? kkk enfim. O vídeo ta massa!, inclusive os comentários e destaques sobre o design dos níveis e as lutas contra chefes, que estão espetaculares msm. ficou awesome!!!
@chaffycosaine8839
3 ай бұрын
4:20 “I doubt that anyone had the courage to say that joke to his face”. What about Radahn?
@vamp567
3 ай бұрын
The Carian Thrusting shield basically spells out that the houses of Moon and Gold were united before the war in the land of shadow
@larazaj
2 ай бұрын
I like your channel, you got a sub! I went in the dlc ng+4 and wow is it tough. Still need to find 2 more map fragments. I'm a week behind everyone else bc i downloaded it a week after release i wanted to finish the base game first. Shlda stayed ng+3. I'm enjoying some of the new weapons. The lore threw me a curve ball but nonetheless I'm hvng a good time. Nice to meet you Discount Russian. I'm Mexican 🇲🇽
@wowow322
3 ай бұрын
You can see Placidusax 2 severed heads biting onto Bayles body if you close enough.
@RedsDens
3 ай бұрын
You can see the torn heads of Placidusax biting into Bayle still if you.look carefully at him
@sz.0085
3 ай бұрын
Idk if anyone else has said it but on bayles back you can see the other heads of Placidusax biting down
@ABrickinTime
3 ай бұрын
Keep coming out with more of these videos please
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
Not sure if I will make another "5 new discoveries" but there is more lore content coming.
@ABrickinTime
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN okay, I’ll still check them out!
@BrianJ9444
3 ай бұрын
Thank you about the Rellana point, it really brings to question the timeline. How many Demigods knew about Messmer?
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
The timeline in this game is insane, Radagon and Marika case is one of the most painfull logistical nightmares t figure out. That's why I subscribed to the idea they were NOT always the same individual, at the same time. And Messmer? I'll leave that can of worms for another video.
@fabulousloser1952
3 ай бұрын
Has anyone found the cutscene where a gold hand is lifting up the veil from the tree?
@CoffeeBrainzz
3 ай бұрын
Thats what kind of pisses me off the most, i feel like we got a completely different dlc or that they forgot to add in the cutscenes lol. we didnt get ANYTHING from th estory trailer! its nowhere in the game so if someone wanted that bit of info thye would have to look it up on youtube or online somewhere, super dumb. theres no scene with Marika and the Divine Gate or that Older Miquella 'unveiling' the SHadow Tree. we got none of that... OH! and then as a final boss reward they give us not one but TWO of Radahns Greatswords as weapons.... so if u had it already, well now u get to have 3!!! wooooo..... like who cares if theres a new skill on them lol. like it blew my mind they ended all their development work and the players struggle and time for such a flat ending.
@fabulousloser1952
3 ай бұрын
@@CoffeeBrainzz i think the cutscene is just not discovered yet.
@fraserduffy4576
3 ай бұрын
@@fabulousloser1952dataminers have already found everything
@DaddySaddo
3 ай бұрын
@@CoffeeBrainzz The thing that upsets me the most is that we got nothing on Godwyn aside from the death knights which are just his bodyguards and the GEQ too.
@harrisonyoung3857
2 ай бұрын
It’s a shame we probably won’t get another dlc to flesh that out, I mean, his corpse is somehow in the shadow realm and is mutating further, and nothing I’ve seen in the dlc directly acknowledges it
@joshuacheramie5129
3 ай бұрын
What is Mesmer and Melina are the same as everyone else having doubles females and male. That’s why she doesn’t know her purpose other than her fire.
@geordiejones5618
3 ай бұрын
So are Messmer and Melina the first children of Marika? Since Mogh, Morgott and Godwyn are all fathered by Godfrey. I wonder who their father was, assuming Radagon doesn't exist until the Golden Order comes about.
@brandinicole1372
3 ай бұрын
That’s a bigger mystery. I suspect radagon/marika is similar to miquella/ st Trina as in they are a part of them. I believe Messmer and Melina were the first children of radagon /marika and they were born for very specific and horrifying tasks to both serve as kindling in different ways.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
I doubt it because that would make the timeline of tha lands between even weirder than what already is. If Melina is a first born alongside Messmer then that means Marika was planning to betray the golden order from the beggining. Which contradicts her words in the churches of Marika in the base game. The lore of this game is capitivating beyond beliefe but there are aspects of it that I felt was TOO OPEN for interpretation. Marika and Radagon being the same thing from the beggining is a logistical nightmare.
@brandinicole1372
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN that’s why it’s just speculation on my part but if you read the description on the item Messmer’s kindling it stated that his younger sister dream about seeing flames and Melina is a kindling maiden and would be the only person who they could be referring to and from Melina herself she said she was born at the foot of the erdtree. Who the father would have been is all up for speculation but Melina possibly being the younger sister is likely as the item referred to in the description is in there.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
@@brandinicole1372 True, there is also the possibilitie that the descripition is simply there to give the player some answers. Melina could have still been borne far later in the timeline than mesmer. After all it does not matter if she was born much later, calling her the younger sister would still be correct. Perhaps Marika saw the success of Messmer and attempted to replicate it with Melina. But where Messmer was the crusader which started the golden order fanatiscism, Melina would end that fanatiscism by burning the erdtree. Same function, different goals, each a product of their time. Of course this VERY HIGH SPECULATION on my part.
@brandinicole1372
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN that does make sense. If Melina is a child of Marika she would be his youngest sister 😂and since Melina is bodiless it’s possible she could appeared to Messmer and told him about seeing fire. This lore is all over the place and I love it I don’t how people say ER has no story 🤷🏾♀️
@blackvalio4060
3 ай бұрын
Bro its not implied, you can literally see placidesaxs two severeded heads on bayle back
@venturesome7782
3 ай бұрын
I’m on yo back clapping ya cheeks😊
@NoxteliLo
3 ай бұрын
Something im still confused about : 3:09 is this Renalla ? Who is she? A random woman mourning a hornsent like blade? idk
@NoxteliLo
3 ай бұрын
Also random tidbit , I believe that when the rune shatters that actually the precise moment that he separated St. Trina from himself. Crackpot theory : Putrescent knight is radahns body and horse. We know of Radahns soul being put into mohgs body, but what of radahns body? St Trina, Miquellas better and more compassionate half might somehow has steeped it with her velvety liquid creating a knight to protect her. I'm not sure though.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's probably just a random victim of the war.
@NoxteliLo
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN ugh :/
@DaddySaddo
3 ай бұрын
@@NoxteliLo Its actually Romina saint of the bud, Read her remembrance description.
@NoxteliLo
3 ай бұрын
@@DaddySaddo thank uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@JusticeforLiberty
3 ай бұрын
Millena doesn't have red hair. Disliked , blocked channel and reported for clickbait.
@CoffeeBrainzz
3 ай бұрын
dude yes she does lol. its a lighter red but its still red.
@zzthegreat9984
3 ай бұрын
was it amazing though?
@DaddySaddo
3 ай бұрын
Nuh uh
@UnclePunchalot
3 ай бұрын
Dude, Renala started royal lineage, so Rellana never was a royal daughter, she was a daughter of noble house until Renala declared her house royalty and Rellana became queen's sister.
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
Well my phrasing was kinda off on that part and I did it for some dramatic effect but you are absolutely right. Rennala proclaimed herself queen after taking control of Raya Lucaria academy. So relax and enjoy the rest of the video.
@CLARKCLOUT
3 ай бұрын
I mean the item description says she abandoned her birthright and calls her a princess heavy implication of royalty 🤷🏽♂️
@joshuawilson9005
3 ай бұрын
The carians bloodline is royalty renalla wasn't the first queen
@CuddleBuddee
3 ай бұрын
@@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN I get what you were trying to do. Some people are such stiffs 😂
@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
3 ай бұрын
@@CuddleBuddee It's the internet after all, but at least we know how it is brother.
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