A huge thank you for this video. I decided to buy an adapter and a bunch of heavyweight extension cords after watching the video. Well, we just got hit by a major storm that knocked out power in our area for 5 days... I used the V2L feature to keep running the following: refrigerator, cell phones and iPad, morning coffee makers, small microwave (as needed), internet (modem and router), a TV. Had it been winter, I could also have powered our gas furnace. So, as always: this website is a HUGE HELP to so many of us. THANK YOU!
@jon34511
2 жыл бұрын
The best trick I know to see if the grid is on/off is to open the WiFi on my phone and see if my neighbors networks show up.
@RussellHogan
Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@letsgobrandon1719
Жыл бұрын
Unless they have an APC UPS backup battery from Costco to power the cable modem and router. Lol.
@hunyesmith03
4 ай бұрын
@@letsgobrandon1719 Does it have to be from Costco? LOL Or am I missing an in joke? Or maybe just a joke.
@MegaHouseRaffle
Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thanks! Picked up the GV60 last night. Out the door was $79K. Buyer's remorse was setting in until your vid, then I did some math. My EV is 77.4 kwh which is roughly 6 Tesla Powerwalls and would cost approx $60K. Therefore, (again roughly) I got the equivalent of 6 Powerwalls and a bad ass GV60 for $19K. I feel better now. Calling my electrician on Monday! Thanks again!
@vlad2838
2 жыл бұрын
Living in hurricane country in Florida, I’m very interested. I nearly got a Powerwall, but passed on that for the same reasons I didn’t get a Tesla EV. Thanks for the idea!
@thelongdaysofwheeling124
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen recently, regardless of content. Good job. Would be a nice option for myself instead of firing up our 7.2kw/9kw peek generator to run the house, especially during times of average load. Not having to purchase and store gas is a huge benefit. 1.8kw is not a lot of power, but a lot of times you don't need much. The down side for me is we have a 240 volt well pump. This is where the Ford F150 lighting has really done things right with a 240 volt, 30 amp output on the V2L
@ZPdrumer
2 жыл бұрын
Just FYI the current f150 hybrid with pro power onboard already does the 7.2kw at 240v. I realize it’s not electric, but still it’s a possibility even now
@thelongdaysofwheeling124
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZPdrumer Yeah, I've had hybrids before. They were a great idea years ago...but BEV is the real answer.
@reslurpeeman
11 ай бұрын
I just purchased a KIA EV 6 and this is really helpful. I was trying to understand this process vs the transfer switch process which is being promoted on the KIA ev6 forums. This gives all of the detailed information which I can share with the electrician. Great job walking through the entire process, including the cables and parts needed. Also including the limitations and what to expect with how long the battery will last is a great.Very much appreciated, thank you.
@MrEndoPro
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I had a hard time finding a certified electrician who would do this (or get the concept) but your video was a great help. Done!
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what they didn't understand. I trained to be an electrician a decade ago and this is just like any other back-feeding generator installation.
@MrEndoPro
Жыл бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy The "every other breaker" issue (I believe you called it Buspar).
@richwesterman1391
Жыл бұрын
Just had this system installed today. I can now have my gas furnace, my kitchen, lights, and 2 computers powered by my Ioniq5. With all the above powered, I' draw only .3 on my car's indicator. This is with the V2L inverter from Amazon ($129) rather than the very expensive Hyundai unit. We don't need no stinkin' generator! Big thanks to you. My guy used this video to perform the entire job.
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic, Rich! You can sleep soundly knowing you've got a giant battery that can keep your house running for days now when needed
@VVVO-VA
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, TIG. I'm getting rooftop solar installed, and rather than spend $17,000 on battery storage, I'll put that toward a Kia EV6. Getting a 4- or 6-circuit subpanel with generator connection installed, so though it won't be instantaneous, I should be able to walk into the garage, and get the critical loads covered by the EV6 V2L. This video really seals the deal for me!
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
What are the details of your upcoming system?
@VVVO-VA
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy 25 panels with optimizers, 9.3 kW, a SolarEdge inverter, a subpanel where I'll be able to direct power from the main panel or the plugged-in source (generator or V2L) for 4 or 6 circuits (TBD). I still wish we'd be able to disconnect from the grid and get solar during an outage, but that doesn't sound possible, right?
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! The new Enphasr IQ4 micro inverters allow for powering your house during an outage. I have the IQ3s and really wish I waited to get the new version
@simonpaine2347
Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking on a very similar basis. Why buy a battery for the solar system, when it's now the most expensive part of the setup, when a car battery can pick-up the slack. If the car battery is not available, then that means I'm not in the house, so the house needs very little power, but it's good to know that solar manufacturers are building in the facility to supply the house in the event of a electric company outage, because the thought of having all that solar on my roof and not being able to use it, just doesn't make any sense to me! Looking forward to an update once the V2L update is available to be able to supply hopefully 240 to the house.
@aldozilli1293
11 ай бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuyI've got a Sunsynk Inverter and using the gen port for v2l to the house. What happens in your set up if you had some loads on before plugging in the car? Will the car not draw? I ask this as we have found the car v2l/gen port on the inverter will only work if we isolate the inverter. If we leave the inverter online and just switch to the gen port the car just stays in 'transferring' state but does not send any power. It's almost as if it senses there's voltage already there so does not transfer any power.
@GregHassler
2 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of work for 15 amps 120v. I do a pretty similar thing off my electric lawn mower using a 6kW 240v split phase inverter. I have less kWh but it does run the whole house, and I can charge the mower from my car to extend it and I'm not tethered to the house. Previously I just did the drag an extension cord around thing which was enough for a few lights, refrigerator, and internet. All electric including heat pump / hot water / etc so I need more power overall. I can't wait to be able to do this with a vehicle capable of 50 amps 240v like a Cybertruck or F150 Lightning. Linemen treat every cable as hot and will test before touching anything. The reason to disconnect your main breaker in a power outage is so you don't try to power 10 of your neighbors' houses as well and immediately overload everything, your breaker would trip almost immediately. Also when the power came back on there would be a near explosion (worse than a dead short) when the two out of phase power systems connected to each other, and again the breakers would trip immediately after a huge arc occurred.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
What mower do you have?
@GregHassler
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy Ryobi 100 amp hour 38" riding mower. About 4.8 kWh theoretically (48v system). I have a video about it on my channel.
@Scotty_in_Ohio
2 жыл бұрын
Props! - right at 1:40 I saw what I was hoping to see - a main breaker interlock! You can always buy an inexpensive generator (relatively) and use the same receptacle just making sure you have the generator far enough from the house/garage so you don't get CO poisoning.
@jeffk8359
2 жыл бұрын
main breaker interlock is a great inexpensive way to protect from back phasing the grid
@JoeCarlinCA
4 ай бұрын
Obviously there's no risk of CO poisoning from an EV.
@ManfredvonHolstein
2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Seeing this only now, after I tested my own setup with the Ioniq 5 V2L. It’s a little simpler than yours. My solar doesn’t go into the main board but connects in between board and meter. I have a transfer switch installed right in front of the board which in position 1 connects solar/meter side with the board’s breakers. In position two it connects the board to a cable with a female NEMA 30A plug onto which I can hook either the Ioniq 5 or a generator. In this position, solar/meter side are by default disconnected. So it is impossible to make a mistake - the house can only be powered by either plug input (Ioniq 5/generator) or solar/grid. I also have a separate circuit connected to the solar/grid side with an off-board breaker and this powers a tiny LED light (and possibly a radio if I want) which would show me when the grid power is back. (To run both split phases on the same 120V, just connect L1 and L2 inside the male NEMA plug - this way you could also connect a 200V generator to the female plug and just run the house as normal.) BTW, I noticed that my UPS for the internet doesn’t like the power the Ioniq 5 produces and does not accept it while all other household devices do. Probably something is not quite right with the frequency, but I don’t have the tools to test this.
@ScottDLR
8 ай бұрын
Very informative vid! Just a note for those that might be interested, I powered my gas furnace (220 watts surge, 150 running) for 12 hours (40's outside) and used 4~5% of my EV-6's battery. I have a Honda gen but will use this before the gen, especially at night.
@bradharris6603
2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Most breakers are made to run continuously at 80% load so loading a 15 amp breaker to 100% may not be the best of ideas. But I like the idea. Also thanks for talking about the interlock.
@JoeCarlinCA
4 ай бұрын
This is actually fine as long as the wiring is 12 gauge. You want it to trip past 15 amp because that's the upper limit of the V2L adapter (theoretically the V2L should also power down past that but another check is good too). As long as the wiring is 12 gauge (which can handle 20 amp, and 80% continuous power derating to 16 amp) then you should be good.
@MegaSn0wb0ardJunkie
2 жыл бұрын
Terrific video. I think this is going to be a game changer for sure!keep up the great videos.
@MihneaStoian
2 жыл бұрын
We have no 240V in the house other than the dryer (gas heating and stove/oven), so my plan is to have a simple boat-style power switch from main to car load for whenever the power fails. We're averaging about 10kWh/day, so we should be good for about 5 days, too. LED lights and power-sipping laptops go a long way in lowering overall electric consumption, it seems, even with us working from home and having lots of pot lights on for most of the day.
@jeffk8359
2 жыл бұрын
you need to move breakers around if you live in the USA as we have a split single phase 240 volt system. down side is you will have all your critical loads on one leg which may unbalance your system somewhat
@guinchuy
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea thank you so much will be hiring an electrician to setup the same system thank you also I was surprised to see that we have the same solar panel system
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love my Enphase system.
@mlk1941
Жыл бұрын
I just had an electrician at my home and put in this setup. I now have power to my main breaker. I tried it out and ran the furnace (fan only because it is gas burning), refrigerator, freezer and computer and modem. That is as far as I went but I will cautiously add lights when the power actually goes out. Thanks so much. Mary
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
Glad it worked out for you!
@Huskerj1000
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video that will help me. I was planning to install a manual transfer switch with a generator outlet and use a Delta Pro battery pack ($5000.00) in lieu of a stand by generator. I just purchased a Genesis GV60 which included the load adapter. This set up will save me the cost of the battery. We usually average a day of outage per year so this solution is perfect and offers us piece of mind. Thanks for your injunity.
@Andrew-yt6pf
2 жыл бұрын
Possibly the optimum solution is to first start with battery backup on your PV. This doesn't need to be huge because the V2L will provide a trickle feed top up in the absence of solar via your PV charger mains input (which can be set to limit at the max V2L capability). The purpose of having a small capacity PV battery (say, 5KWh) is to provide peak load capabilities that are well beyond the capabilities of the V2L. Also overcomes the 120 240 issues you have in the US. In the UK, we are blessed with 230v V2L at 13A. With this arrangement, you could use a high load appliance for a short period (eg. dry some clothes for an hour/ cook) drawing most of the power from the low capacity but high current capability PV battery, whilst the V2L replenishes at a constant rate.
@adamhardy8690
Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, desperately trying to find info on this, I'm from the UK and your comment is interesting. Am i understanding you correctly in that say you had a 5kw home battery you could use the Ioniq to keep that topped up with contsant trickle? I wonder who I could get to install that ind of arrangement. I am just about to get a 5kw battery and additional solar with a UPS built in as we have power cuts a lot. It sounds like a pretty straight forward alteration to the system?
@Andrew-yt6pf
Жыл бұрын
@@adamhardy8690 Hi Adam, yes your understanding is correct. It's a matter of doing some calculations after monitoring your power consumption over 24hrs at various times of the year and working out how much PV battery capacity you need for peak draw periods knowing that between peaks you'll be topping up at ~2KW. Of course, if you have a large enough PV array and excess energy during peak sun, you'll be wanting to first charge the PV battery and once that's topped up, direct any excess power to the EV battery. Given the 60 to 70KWhr available in long range EV's, they can provide this load smoothing capability for quite a considerable length of time and still leave plenty for car journeys. You'd need to factor in your journey requirements and make sure you didn't draw below that level.
@tarant315
Жыл бұрын
I just seen Enphase and there bidirectional car charger/solar inverter with V2House and V2Grid functionality. There lots of companies working on it. Just hope for good implementation
@benj8682
Жыл бұрын
So, if I understand correctly, you would need a PV battery backup specified to be able to be charged from a generator for this scenario to work? Most home batteries right now do not support this.
@tarant315
Жыл бұрын
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@timm2754
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hope to set up a similar system. We’re installing solar in the next couple months and have the Ioniq5 on order.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
What size system are you installing? Oversizing for the electric car I presume?
@timm2754
2 жыл бұрын
We’re installing 27 x 480w panels. Just under 13kW which should generate around 16MW a year on the east coast of Canada. Should cover all our car charging needs too.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that is a monster system! Is that all going on your roof or are you doing ground mount? I thought my 430w panels were big when I got them last year. Crazy that they're at almost 500w now
@timm2754
2 жыл бұрын
They’re all going on the roof. I’m a novice at the solar power game so I’m trusting that the company installing them knows what they’re doing. They have several years experience so everything should work fine. We have net metering here but no off-peak power rates so I can’t make any extra money off the solar, but it should cover my annual power consumption.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
We have net metering as well with no off peak rates. Our company banks our excess in kWh instead of a dollar figure since prices fluctuate seasonally. Unfortunately, I installed my system late summer last year so I wasn't able to bank much before the sun got low and had some $100+ bills throughout the winter.
@MrPhatties
2 жыл бұрын
You can get a 240v v2L adapter from overseas that puts out 3.6kw split phase. You can also use the plug under the rear seat to get an additional 15A/120v to run your second phase.
@richardneel6953
Жыл бұрын
Not all trims of the Ioniq 5 have the under-the-seat connector.
@MrPhatties
Жыл бұрын
@@richardneel6953 true only limited/ultimate.
@jeffk8359
Жыл бұрын
you said " You can also use the plug under the rear seat to get an additional 15A/120v to run your second phase"" that will not work in north america.. the reason is the fact the neutral is center taped on the step down transformer from 7 ish KV to 240 V. That is the reason you can share the neutral for a ZERO current neutral if both of the hot legs are balanced. In your suggestion the current WOULD double BAD!!!!!!!! but the 240v v2L adapter from overseas that puts out 3.6kw split phase. would work if it is TRULY 240 split phase. If it is from overseas I would bet money (not sure) that it is 240 volts hot to neutral. One would need a to construct a 240 hot neutral primary to 240 split-phase secondary output transformer and assume 12 amps on 240 split phase usable. better than below..... for all that in North america just take a 120 volt hot to neutral primary to 240 slit phase secondary but you will only get 5 usable Amps on 240 split phase Enough to keep a refer going and a few led's. good luck be safe and do not drop any electricity on the floor. it's shocking :)
@kenastl
2 жыл бұрын
That's a great setup. I can't wait for cars that can do v2l @ 240v and 7kw.
@ZPdrumer
2 жыл бұрын
F150 does 7kW at 240v (3,6 per phase) the electric one will, but the current hybrid with onboard power does as well
@MartinKadlec
2 жыл бұрын
Also the EU verion can do 3.6 kW as the nominal voltage is 230 V
@massengineer7582
2 жыл бұрын
I also need 240 V and 7+ kW, to run my well pump to get running water during a power outage. Hate not having city water.
@juanalfonsodupin
Жыл бұрын
In europe with 7kw we power up the whole house
@EdHess-m8m
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the link to the Goal Zero transfer switch. I have a sub panel in my garage (no main breaker so can't use interlock) that it will work perfect for and I"ll be able to power the apartment over the garage with my car!
@mathieulafrance6627
2 жыл бұрын
Hyundai's V2L is a neutral-bonded ground source, which means the neutral is connected to the ground. Your panel has the primary neutral-ground bound. Therefore this V2L connexion is violating the National Electrical Code which stipulates that there must be a single point where neutral is connected to ground. In this kind of setup, you usually need to run a floating-neutral generator I also noticed that the V2L adapter allows for two orientation: ground up or ground down. This basically enables to swap hot and neutral on all powered devices. My polarity tester throws an error when I use the ground-up configuration, but not gorund-down. I don't understand this dumb decision, as the prongs on the V2L are already keyed, but not on many extension cords. This creates a situation where a switched off lightbulb would still be live, as the switch would normally be on the black wire, not on the white one. Were you aware of this? Or I'm missing something?
@evsiphon
Жыл бұрын
This was my understanding too on a floating ground, but could not articulate this clearly. Thank you!
@matbowden9156
7 ай бұрын
@9:47 WTF is that postcard/photo stuck on the fridge? 😱
@RWAquariumPages
Жыл бұрын
ok, this is an amazing video. before watching a video, i was thinking ok, if there's a poweroutage for multiple days, use the v2l, then cord and powerbar and fridge, freezer done deal. But seeing how you can put it back into your breaker etc etc, such an awesome video. only 3 more weeks till i might see a i5 in my drive way, and knock on wood, we rarely get power outages, if there ar eit's for 2-3 hours but a few years back we were out for 7 days, but that's very rare and few inbetween. love all your videos and have been binge watching them multiple times!
@labaom
Жыл бұрын
I just had an electrician do this for me. Only difference is my panel is in the basement. Cost about $1,200. Hopefully I never have to use it but is nice I have flexibility. Hopefully future EVs can let you output more power at once.
@JorgeAlvarez-xr1ci
6 ай бұрын
The V2L can be interred by your inverted as an active grid. This will cause your panels to produce output and then the voltage might increase.
@jooncho
2 жыл бұрын
That V2l fuction itself could be a big selling point for the vehicle. Very impressive what a car could do stuff that ICE vehicles can never do.
@jeffk8359
2 жыл бұрын
That is not true. An ICE can do this search AIMS power inverter 12 Volts DC to 240 volts Ac split phase inverter/ battery charger
@ciaransherry6021
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffk8359 Nope! The 12V starter battery contains a tiny fraction of the energy that an EV battery has. If you wanted to power your home for any length of time with a combustion car, then you would have to continuously also leave its dirty engine running.
@jeffk8359
Жыл бұрын
@@ciaransherry6021 of course the 12 volt battery has a fraction of the energy as an EV battery please don't State the obvious while all of this green energy I completely believe in and I thoroughly understand it as I do hold a degree in physics so let's just put it out there for the record only having half of your power panel faced quite frankly is not a smart thing because that means under normal situations you're unbalancing your utility load as well we are talking emergency situations and quite frankly I don't give a damn about whether my ice engine is dirty or clean if it's a matter of lights and keeping my refrigerator going and providing enough voltage at the plug where my natural gas and or propane stove is plugged in so I can spark it then so be it Now if my directness was offensive don't take it personally I've just found that most people who speak in these forms actually have zero concept about electricity or energy or anything else because most people are not educated now like I said above I hold a degree in physics so when I speak I speak from fact and if you're one of those people that believes that everything should be run on electricity well that's all fine and dandy if you live in Hawaii where the temperatures are always moderate I live in high heat areas and then the other part of the year it could be incredibly cold so I have to deal with 100° Plus as well as 0° all within the same year that's not the realm of a heat pump Like I said my apologies if this was too direct for you or if it came out to be condescending I didn't mean it to be but I'm just tired of people talking about things that they may not understand
@ciaransherry6021
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffk8359 Ah sure you're just great! Being relatively uneducated, I defer to the humility of one who professes to have a Degree, and who worships before that Blessed Trinity of 'Me, Myself, and I. 💚🙂
@craigstaples7417
2 ай бұрын
National Electric Code (NEC) NEC 702.4 Capacity and Rating. (B) System Capacity. The calculated load on the standby source must be in accordance with Article 220 or by a method approved by the authority having jurisdiction. (1) Manual Transfer Equipment. The optional standby power source must have adequate capacity for all equipment intended to operate at one time as determined by the user.
@ELMS
Жыл бұрын
That was excellent! Although I’d need a checklist to remember everything. Thanks! 😊
@stefangabler3469
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting awesome videos about the Ioniq 5! I am very interested in getting one, especially because of all the cool features it has, such as V2L and the design is extremely cool and unique. Just a little concerned about charging infrastructure as I am currently driving Tesla.
@oloilmann4288
Жыл бұрын
In a cold climate what you want to be powering during a winter storm is your Furnace blower, a few lights and one or two electrical outlets to charge your phone, tablets, and power an induction cooktop, or portable induction cooktop and have ample power left in your battery to survive until the local utility is restored. You don't need all of your lights and certainly not all of your outlets to survive. Outlets that may have loads you haven't even thought about and will just drain your limited battery capacity of your EV. If you had a blizzard like Fort Erie(ON) or Buffalo (NY) had winter of 22 three days of strong winds and much snow depending where you were, trees toppling taking out the electrical grid, you might want to save the energy in your vehicles battery to last as long as necessary. My brothers off grid house was the only one in his neighborhood to have electricity to run his gas furnace off his limited 54kW Tesla power wall. His neighbors tried to run electric space heaters off generators to heat their homes. Until he went to them and hooked up their furnaces to the generators.
@tomarmstrong1281
Ай бұрын
To my mind, this ought to be a no-brainer. An EV is a huge battery on wheels storing a fair chunk of power, which should be available for more than simply driving the car. I would never attempt to emulate what this guy has done. Good luck to him but it's above my pay grade. The EV manufactures and the grid operators need to get together and supply and fit all of the electronics in a consumer package.
@ericfoster6584
Жыл бұрын
Why couldn't one split the extension cord into two with a common Y splitter and have two 15A generator inlets, one for each pole? You would still have to stay w/in 15A total, and make sure to never flip on any double breakers. But you wouldn't have to move any breakers to power the things you need. We want to power the fridge, furnace (for the blower) and a few lights and plugs at a time throughout the house. Also, I'm puzzled about exactly which breakers were powered by the generator inlet in your video. At one point it seemed it was every other one from top to bottom, both sides, starting with intake breaker at the upper right. That matches powering the fridge at breaker 25 on the left. But when you turned off all the powered breakers before unplugging it you flipped many that were just below each other, not alternating.
@ypkr
Жыл бұрын
V2L feature anyway outputs up to 15A also for 250VAC 1Phase, so in this case it would be approx 3700W, in Korea it designed as 3300VA as 220V 1phase standard. I hope that Hyundai would add another part which has 3Phase 400V V2L (for EU Type 2 AC Receptacle) or even 1Phase but 32A with Industrial receptacle. but it might not come. And I didn't know the unlock/lock doors button is located at Passengerside door. Korean version doesnt have it...
@junglejota2
Жыл бұрын
This was a really complete video. Going to do the same! thanks for this
@MtnXfreeride
3 ай бұрын
I am not through the whole video yet, but something like the ecoflow delta 3 pro is pretty cheap at 3k and would make your system more robust... that ecoflow will output 8kw at 220v, and has a 4kw battery... the small battery isn't an issue because your car can keep the ecoflow topped off at 110v.. so this ups what your system can handle for power spikes, lets you use 220v breakers, and would let you drive off while running off the 4kw battery to charge up the car if power comes back on in town first.
@581rma
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Also, I might add powering up refrigerator is also critical during a power outage
@14energy
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Tesla should do V2L too
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
They really need to
@Tykoon
Жыл бұрын
Install an LED lamp at the Main breaker to know if the power utility is back.
@runningdowna997turbo
Жыл бұрын
So once your car is plugged into the panel and the main disconnected you could use your solar to power your house during the day and the car would amp up during night.
@willm5814
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for - thank you!
@exploringoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
great video! would love to see a follow-up on how your house is set up for solar
@jdlutz1965
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely organized and clearly explained!
@12polizei24wegvonhier
4 ай бұрын
Great video. Thx!
@AJ_LT140D
2 жыл бұрын
아주 멋진 홈 전기 시스템을 가지고있군요! 부럽네요!
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
감사합니다.
@RawDeal52
2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Great set-up. I'm curious though - is there any kind of safety issue having the solar/battery input and "generator" input both on the panel without any exclusive switch? You've obviously done it right with the interlock to grid, but aren't you dependent on remembering to manually shut off the solar/battery breaker? Obviously you're very careful in the video and actually do it in 2 redundant spots. But what if you're not home and somebody else thinks they know how to do it? Or other viewers without as much knowledge as you? Just curious what happens if the solar/battery and the Ioniq V2L are accidently connected at the same time?
@bestboff1
Жыл бұрын
An easy way to see if utility power is restored, go to the electric meter. If the data display is on, you have power.
@adammimran
Жыл бұрын
Real cool but I’ll wait for the OEM setup.
@jpweselmann4775
2 жыл бұрын
very useful information, thank you. 😀
@cfldriven
9 ай бұрын
Nicely done video.
@FoxInClogs
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clear explanation. I was wondering if it's really necessary to disconnect your PV invertor, assuming that you've got a single phase string invertor. I checked with Google Bard, which came back with the answer: "Yes, the Ioniq 5's Vehicle-to-Load (V2L) feature can be used to power a PV inverter and provide backup power for an off-grid home. The Ioniq 5's V2L port can output up to 3.6 kW of power, which is sufficient to power most inverters. Additionally, the Ioniq 5's V2L power supply is clean and stable, making it compatible with inverters" My initial impression is that you could start up your invertor using the Ioniq 5's output, then use the Ioniq 5 and PVs in tandem to power your home. Am I missing something here?
@TheIoniqGuy
8 ай бұрын
I don’t have a string inverter. I have Enphase micro inverters. They require a very specific frequency signal that only comes from the local utility or else they power off and cannot be powered back on until they sense that signal through the local utility.
@tweedledee4922
6 ай бұрын
The output is limited to 1.8 kw in the USA. 3.6 kw is only available outside the USA.
@joeabad5908
Жыл бұрын
Very nicely & clearly explained..
@smickster
Жыл бұрын
Nice walkthrough. Unfortunately a lot of homes (my own 1972-built home included) don't have breaker boxes conveniently located in the garage, and indeed, don't have a separate circuit for every appliance. I can't even wire my attached garage for 220 so I can put an L2 charger in there. :(
@StephenBieda
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Thank you!
@StephenFalbel-v4c
Жыл бұрын
One step better, as Andrew suggests below, is to plug the Ioniq 5 into a small battery that can supply 240/120 at higher wattage. There is such a battery now available with either 4.6 kWh or 6.4 kWh capacity. The Zendure Superbase V can accept power through an AC input port (regular old plug) at the same time as supplying up to 3800W to either 240V or 120V or both simultaneously. I'm going to connect the Superbase V to a transfer switch (Reliance Controls 30310A) which has a generator inlet plug and then 10 circuits (6 for 120V and 2 for 240V which can be split into 4 at 120V). The Superbase V will normally be plugged into the wall outlet, so that my essential circuits (work computer) will have uninterrupted power during an outage, and then if the outage lasts more than an hour, I can plug the AC input into the Ioniq 5 to supply days worth of power. This way, I can run my well pump and water heater and fridge and freezer (though not all at the same time). plus internet and computer and selected lights. Total setup should be less than $5K compared to $15K or more for a home battery system which has less power capacity.
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
That is an excellent idea and maybe something I'll look into attempting.
@StephenFalbel-v4c
Жыл бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy Furthermore, it is very likely eligible for a 30% tax credit as part of the IRA.
@thewh0hweht
8 ай бұрын
Did you end up testing this system out? Seems like a great idea and contemplating doing the same!
@StephenFALBEL-g2g
8 ай бұрын
Yes I did. It is not possible to have the battery plugged into a regular outlet and at the same time supply power to the circuit my computer is on, because that trips the fuse. So I got an inexpensive UPS for my computer (don't know why I hadn't got one years ago - it's less than $100) which gives me at least 15 minutes to switch over the circuit during an outage. We've had three power outages since I set this up, and none of them have lasted long enough for me to have exhausted the 4.6 kWh in the battery, so I have not tested the concept of plugging the battery into the car while the battery is supplying power to the house. Zendure says it will work, but I have not tested it yet. I did manage to install a 50-foot cord from where the battery is in the basement to the garage, so it is all ready should we have a longer outage. BTW, I ended up getting a Kia EV6 rather than the Ioniq 5, but it is essentially the same for this purpose. (The Kia comes with the adapter shown in this video, while you have to purchase it separately with an Ioniq 5.)@@thewh0hweht
@thewh0hweht
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response! Huh, so you can't plug into an regular outlet and supply power at the same time... that makes me concerned that you wouldn't be able to plug it into the car V2L and supply power at the same time either. Or am I missing something? I have a much smaller ecoflow battery that can charge from an outlet or solar and still supply power, seems odd the Zendure can't. @@StephenFALBEL-g2g
@Utbr88
2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, Hyundai designed this V2L for countries that has 220V as standard. Therefore, they do have V2L adapter that is designed for 220V. I am curious if you be that version, it would work without worrying about the issues you mentioned? Or the inverter inside the car is not universal to handle both. In any case, you are genius to set it up and use it.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's not as simple as just plugging another country's adapter into ours. The US uses CCS 1 and other markets use CCS 2 which has more pins. They're not interchangeable.
@Utbr88
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy I see. Thank you.
@pato810
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, very informative. One question, doesn't the Ioniq 5 have another 120v outlet under the back seat? And if so, could you install another generator inlet to power the other half of the panel? I would assume the 15 amp maximum would be for the two legs total then.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Only one outlet can receive power at any given time so that isn't possible. You are correct that it's 15 amps between both outlets
@pato810
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for that info. I haven't found details elsewhere on how the two outlets in the car interact. Much appreciated.
@Jmach314
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy Please see page 21 of the online owners manual for instructions to use both outlets at the same time: "Opening the charging door or connecting the V2L connector to the charging inlet, the V2L discharging mode will shut off. If you want to use the indoor and outdoor V2L simultaneously, firstly connect the V2L connector to the charging inlet and use the indoor V2L." I might be getting my Ioniq 5 tomorrow and looking for someone to test to to see if both outlets are limited to a total of 15A or if they are separately rated.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know about that
@isovideo7497
10 ай бұрын
It's a shame you used Enphase microinverters for your solar panels - you could have just used DC string inverters with backup batteries and an inverter to 240V/120V to the house panel, and the ability to take or feed power back to the grid. For example, an EG-4 18K system with 48V LFP batteries (minimum three at 100Ah each) supports up to 18KW of solar panels and 12KW of 240VAC. You could have a grid power outage and not even notice unless your loads exceed the 12KW (50 Amps at 240V), and for safety, the 18K automatically disconnects with grid down (anti-islanding). Your car cannot rival that power as it's 120V only at maybe 15Amps, but it could be a backup-backup.
@charles2411-i8f
Жыл бұрын
So much smarter than that guy with 2 100 watt solar panels and a quackery
@kmschwem
2 жыл бұрын
Need V2H. 1.8KW isn’t much. It’s something though.
@nixquev
9 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is the ground plug not able to enter the V2L adapter ? I have to force it so much that I stopped trying in fear of breaking it
@granthenkins2675
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@peterbee8892
11 ай бұрын
Let us all know when you can support a decent 3.6 kw load like a heat pump.
@howardengelhart7100
8 ай бұрын
@TheIoniqGuy - Dumb question from someone with minimal understanding of electrical panels... in the "Limitations with Electrical Panels" section of this video you seem to be saying that you can only turn on every other circuit on the even number side of the panel. However it looks like you did turn on some circuits from the odd number side. Am I missing something? Thanks.
@goldeaglenyc5559
Жыл бұрын
i wonder how it would do with an electric pressure washer
@maxe859
Жыл бұрын
Very well done; I like your step by step explanations, its very easy to follow you. I have one question. I will receive my Ionic 5 next September (if there is no delay...) I have in front of the back seat a power outlet 120V 16A. Do you know if I can use, at the same time, this power outlet with the exterior V2L adaptor? It would double the total W available to power my house. Also, if I can use both, would you have a suggestion on how to connect it to the electric panel. Maybe a second portable generator inlet?
@wtfx5757
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I live in the country and am on a well. The well pump is on a 220 and then so is the hot water heater. Don’t think it would be capable of running this?
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly no
@pirpy2
Жыл бұрын
Hello The Ioniq Guy I have a sugestion Why dont you bridge the two hot lines with 240 V breaker and have all the 110 loads in the house covered by V2L, and automaticly the big and power hungry 240 V apliances will not work.
@hzuiel
2 жыл бұрын
Just waiting for someone to do this without the lockout, using a walmart 2 dollar 2 prong extension cord, with one end cut off and turned into a suicide cord via another pronged plug.
@fanofthemick
Жыл бұрын
Having problem getting electrician willing to do the connection to the home panel here in Southwest Florida. They recommend using heavy duty extension cords and power strips to power select items but feel that the wattage output of the I5 is insufficient to connect it to the home power. One company won’t even do it for something like the F150 Lightning. I will continue to try to find licensed electrician but will also check with county/city to see what is legal.
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
I don’t see why they wouldn’t be willing to do it, it’s not different than the wiring for a small 120V gas powered generator. You could also separate out a few circuits into a dedicated transfer switch. They might be more into that idea
@fanofthemick
Жыл бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy I agree but he wouldn’t budge. I even said forget that the power source is the car, maybe is just a generator. He said they wouldn’t do the job without knowing what type/size of generator it was. I will press the electrician coming next week a little more. Separate but related item: the video showed you have solar on your house, so do I. When I had the solar installed they said I could not have the solar power the house during a power outage even though there is a interlock to prevent the solar power from going back to the grid when the grid goes down. Basically, during an outage any power generated by the solar panels goes into never never land. If you don’t mind, can you tell me if you can power at least part of your home from the solar panels during a grid outage. I know Connecticut law may differ from Florida law but from a technical view I see no reason why that couldn’t be done. Thanks
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
Solar during power outages comes down to your inverters. Emphases microinverters sense the electric utilities very specific frequency and if they don’t see it they shut down. They’ve since come out with a new version of them that allows islanding where they can run during power outage but it requires their own proprietary automatic disconnect to prevent back feeding.
@GeneralChurch
27 күн бұрын
Can you just go 120v plug to 120v plug to power the home? I have solar and my necessities on there including the garage, so if I back feed that plug, will it power the devices?
@tombrooks5777
3 ай бұрын
I have the Ioniq 6 Limited with a built-in outlet at the base of the back seat. Is there any reason I can’t do the same setup without the adapter that plugs into the charge port? I realize I would need to crack a window to run the extension out of the car, but the Ioniq is garaged and the electrical panel is in the garage.
@tzwc3571
2 жыл бұрын
There a simple way to setup a auto engage/disengage for a certain circuit w no back feed.
@alabon
6 ай бұрын
Are your boiler and water heater on 120v? I thought it was always on 240v
@jamice4u
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about what it takes to add the under the seat V2L for the SE and the SEL trims?
@TheIoniqGuy
2 жыл бұрын
If it ever becomes an option I will. It doesn't seem like any Hyundai parts websites have car components available for purchase yet.
@simonpaine2347
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure that your beefy UL extension lead is unlikely to overheat, but leaving an extension cord coiled up is never a good thing to do as there's always a chance that it will overheat.
@florinadrian5174
Жыл бұрын
This is the future, electric cars should power houses and crowd-balance the grid. Could somebody help with this issue?: the adapter liked in the description is not compatible with my 2018 electric Hyundai Kona. It's absurd, as it's compatible with non-electric Konas. Can somebody suggest what I could use?
@EdHess-m8m
2 ай бұрын
I bought a Lectron V2L adapter for my Hyundai Ioniq 5 and when I test it with a Sperry Outlet Circuit tester it shows an open ground. Does the Hyundai OEM V2L adapter provide a proper ground? Thanks.
@MtnXfreeride
3 ай бұрын
I am curious how efficient the system is to leave on.. like if you only had a fridge running but wanted to leave it on after a storm for 3 days... the ioniq battery should have plenty of capacity, but does just having the system on eat the battery quickly?
@mayssm
Жыл бұрын
I've already got a transfer switch receptacle outside that comes in to a switch that lets you power certain circuits in the house. I'd guess we could just use that if we had this car?
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
You would need to look into exactly how the transfer switch is wired but it’s definitely a big step towards making it work.
@edmiddleton8138
9 ай бұрын
I've read in various places that V2L / V2G reduces battery life but haven't seen any studies. Anyone got any further info? I assume it would reduce battery life but to what degree.
@Ubereme
Жыл бұрын
The bit that confused me was when you said that in the US and Canada you use 240v. Here in the uk we use 240v and our v2l supply's 240v. Your v2l only supply's 120v. So you don't actually use 240v. You use 120v but you have 2 connections into your house. And your supply 120v around your home you just split the load over 2 120v lines. Is that right or am I getting that wrong.
@cmonteiro128
Жыл бұрын
That is correct, its known as 240v split phase.
@douggray169
2 жыл бұрын
great video
@FredrikSimons
8 ай бұрын
I'm looking to get a bidirectional charger to reduce any grid usage as much as possible. Are there any V2h chargers for the ioniq 5 or do I need to work with the V2L adapter? When my house battery is empty, it would be wonderful if I could use my car! My house system: Zappi charger 10kWh Solax Battery 12 Solar Panels Grant 6Kw Heat Pump
@zodiacfml
Жыл бұрын
why Tesla can't even put V2L to the RWD LFP Model 3, install a small inverter there and call it a day.😔😔
@LucDesormeaux
2 ай бұрын
Can the 2024 Kona really do this too? Looks like a great option. I have a generator, but havinng 2 options wold be great.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 ай бұрын
Yes but only the top Limited trim if you’re in the US. I don’t know about other countries
@LucDesormeaux
Ай бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy We only have 2 trims in Canada. Preferred and Ultimate. I decided to go with an IONIQ 5 in the end. 😁
@gsabic
Жыл бұрын
that is a conbiner box, your inverters are under each panel
@CovenantServants
Жыл бұрын
My inside socket only works when I have the adapter plugged in and turned on, any thoughts?
@NicoleNichols-u7u
10 ай бұрын
If only I could get the connector open 🤔
@albertflecha150
2 ай бұрын
Great video! Can you please help me better understand why I can't turn on any of the 240v breakers? I want to run my HVAC unit, but each of my two zones is on a 240v breaker... that being said, I don't want to have any issues so I would like to understand why I can't.
@TheIoniqGuy
2 ай бұрын
Because giving a 240V device only half of its required voltage isn’t good for it
@albertflecha150
2 ай бұрын
@@TheIoniqGuy I just checked my panel, it looks like I have a 40a circuit breaker linked to my generator inlet (in the garage). Is the car limiting to 120v or is it the circuit breaker in your case that is the limiting factor?
@TheIoniqGuy
2 ай бұрын
The car only outputs 120V
@Reddylion
2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@rydahog
2 жыл бұрын
What size mulberry cover ? Did you drill them holes to fit receptacle. Thnx.
@twincamps
Жыл бұрын
So its not 240v...wow when will we get a bidirectional charger...im thinking 2057
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
Kia EV9 will utilize Quasar 2 for bidirectional charging in several months. Not sure yet of we’ll be backwards compatible
@alexbrown7665
Жыл бұрын
I have an inverter that I got to run some things off my LEAF in a power outage. Can the I5 DC to DC converter keep up with additional draw on the 12 v system? I have an SEL, with a single V2L. I assume the car could handle another load because it's designed to feed two sources. Thoughts?
@StephenFalbel-v4c
Жыл бұрын
If you have the Limited with the 110V outlet in the back seat, can you avoid buying the V2L adapter and just plug in the extension cord into the outlet?
@TheIoniqGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yes you can
@labaom
Жыл бұрын
How much would it cost to get a generator inlet and an interlock kit installed?
@rodonisle
2 ай бұрын
Is the rate of output the same on the inside outlet as it would be using the external adapter?
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