Sorry for the missing word at the start folks. Had to chop this one up a lot more voice wise due to flu still beating me up. Somehow I missed that one. I hate being unwell.
@VolcanicAkuma555
Жыл бұрын
That's an easy fix. Just don't be sick :) Get well soon, man
@kingstarscream320
Жыл бұрын
Unacceptable
@HejC8xmRICWgUCj1dhPvhTFX
Жыл бұрын
Hope you get better. Also, LOVE BR2's music playing in the background ❤
@kylenguyen7371
Жыл бұрын
Unwell? Sounds like a great excuse to play 40k Dark Tide, and get revenge against Nurgle.
@Matt-qs5rx
Жыл бұрын
@@HejC8xmRICWgUCj1dhPvhTFX Thanks! I was wondering what the tracks were from! Have a speedy recovery Ketchup!
@MrTheMasterX
Жыл бұрын
Kai's vertical fireballs would've been a great tool in a game that isn't a 3D arena fighter where you can sidestep.
@KyeCreates
Жыл бұрын
Still very good in games like Tekken though
@ACobalt
Жыл бұрын
@@KyeCreatesI mean yeah, but besides Akuma is there any Tekken characters that have projectiles.
@KyeCreates
Жыл бұрын
@@ACobalt Eliza has projectiles
@ACobalt
Жыл бұрын
@@KyeCreates I didn’t know that. I’ve never played Tekken I’ve just seen some gameplay and never saw any projectiles lol.
@KyeCreates
Жыл бұрын
@@ACobalt lol all good it's only one character. Before t7 there wasn't any 2d characters so you're right in the aspect of there not being 2d characters galore.
@samihade2853
Жыл бұрын
Feel like drunken master bo rai cho deserves at least an honourable mention. Poor guy has all his best moves locked behind a move that eventually STUNS HIM if he doesn't keep using it.
@Babs11549
Жыл бұрын
True, but the nice thing about DM Bo is that they gave him tons of ways to keep getting drunk. Plus, if you're willing to sacrifice some damage Scaling, he can drink after a fart and still combo.
@Dre259
Жыл бұрын
I'm still a Warlock main to this day, a captain never abandons his ship.
@ruslovelys2960
Жыл бұрын
W
@rangoon2
Жыл бұрын
W
@yacovmogo
Жыл бұрын
W
@DracoX-hz3tu
Жыл бұрын
W
@younezzz
Жыл бұрын
W
@DracoX-hz3tu
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind seeing Kai come back one day and actually being good, perhaps they could expand the idea of his unique fireball game somehow
@_.Lucifer_Lightfall._
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a shoalin soccer playstyle? Have his fireballs be stationary around him, and certain kicks/inputs be what launches them.
@TupocalypseShakur
Жыл бұрын
@@_.Lucifer_Lightfall._ like Sheeva's dragon stance?
@truindividual
Жыл бұрын
@@TupocalypseShakur yes
@xdifficultviper9916
Жыл бұрын
Just give him fireballs like dualist liu kang from Mkx
@tyronleung5276
Жыл бұрын
Give Kai three stick nunchucks like Gordon liu in 36 chambers and style him off jim Kelly like liu kang has bruce Lee and nunchaku
@DCBiscuit
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the inverse. The most busted non-banned characters in the tier lists.
@DudesPlayingVidGames
Жыл бұрын
they've been doing that with the competitive history series. even explains why.
@Euro.Patriot
Жыл бұрын
Scorpion is Deadly Alliance. He was the definition of safe.
@jh047o
Жыл бұрын
@@Euro.Patriot and in deception and armageddon too, he's been consistently busted in the 3d era they slightly debuffed him in armageddon though
@ohandthefracking
Жыл бұрын
@@jh047o only Sareena was better than him in MKA tbh
@meganinten0078
Жыл бұрын
Dairou in MK Deception Sektor in MK Gold
@philbuttler3427
Жыл бұрын
the fact people in the comments love Kai and wanna see him again warms my heart. it's one of those MK community things that is just nice and reminds you of the unique appeal of fighting games.
@friendsarenotreal34
Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% he needs a chance
@indrid54
Жыл бұрын
I specifically remember playing him for his design on MK4 when I first got it on n64, but he was also fun to play with for me. I liked the detail that his weapon changed to Raiden’s staff after you complete an arcade run with him. Just a nice little addition they didn’t have to put imo. I’d be very interested to see how the character’s gameplay and fireballs could be handled if translated to a modern MK.
@DCBiscuit
Жыл бұрын
There’s only one 3D era character for my heart. Darrius.
@jpro1969
Жыл бұрын
Kai for MK1 base roster.
@nikkoanthony1342
Жыл бұрын
Shut up
@yoshimallow
Жыл бұрын
Even if DA Cyrax is low/bottom tier, his Fatality will always be Top Tier.
@bbbbKeJodddd
Жыл бұрын
Kai could have been an infuriating noobkiller if nrs reintroduced him as their capoeria guy. Also he should have been the shaolin rep of the kombat kids.
@kombatant2154
Жыл бұрын
kung jin?
@bbbbKeJodddd
Жыл бұрын
@@kombatant2154 he was already supposed to be the liu successor in 4 before they completely dropped that storyline. Deserved a second chance imo. My kombat kid lineup would have been Cassie (SF), Kai (SM), Takeda (Shirai Ryu), and Frost (Lin Kuei) to get a new gen rep from the 4 major heroic earthrealm factions, giving Kai and Frost a do over in the new timeline.
@Zaire_39
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he should have been a Kombat Kid tbh but he should have definitely been bought back in MKX. Fujin & Kai deserved more than they got
@kombatant2154
Жыл бұрын
@@bbbbKeJodddd o personally dislike that they had to give 3 members of the special forces kids, I think takeda and cassie should be the only 2 true kombat kids and have kai and frost be how you described
@meganinten0078
Жыл бұрын
Capoeira would be better for someone like Darrius, the black dude from the Orden Realm (MK Deception) I want to see characters from other realms like Orden and Chaos Realm.
@spyhunter236
Жыл бұрын
6:42 did Shujunko really just take no damage from kai's fireball by laying down?
@lnlonelyness2801
Жыл бұрын
that's how tragic Kai was tbh, and idk if this is just a personal experience or something that everyone experienced when playing MKA but Kai's AI for the arcade ladder is really aggressive, for an unsafe character lol (and he LOVES spamming Rising Heel because that's pretty much the only decent move he has, but even that is unsafe on block)
@UfodexENMD
Жыл бұрын
My boy Kai always getting the short end of the stick 😭.
@rajangeta8334
Жыл бұрын
I am still mad they didn’t bring him into the fold for either DA or deceptions, you would think Liu Kang’s student would want revenge for his death or try to stop his zombie form from rampaging in deception but no dude was forgotten
@simpleclonetrooper2740
Жыл бұрын
Justice for my 3rd favorite character.
@UfodexENMD
Жыл бұрын
@@rajangeta8334 you'd think but no they thought Hsu Hao was a better fit 🙄
@MxCheefah
Жыл бұрын
@@UfodexENMD I actually find Hsu Hao to be more interesting than Kai. Hsu Hao is from the underrepresented country of Mongolia.
@theamazingmaymay123
Жыл бұрын
Man they did him so dirty.
@INauseaI
Жыл бұрын
Spectral Vs Warlock is hilarious. You can just hold up left or up right while in Soul Ascension the whole match and there is not a thing Quan can do about it 🤣
@TnD_BigJax
Жыл бұрын
Kai's kit would actually make him a perfect zoner in the MK reboot trilogy with his fireballs and crouching uppercut kick The problem is he was introduced in the 3D arena fighter era of MK
@MoonOvIce
Жыл бұрын
Kai was introduced in MK4, which almost no one played in 3D unlike the following trilogy starting with DA.
@nahnah390
Жыл бұрын
My favorite tier of characters are characters that "Seemed" low tier at release, but someone actually discovered something crazy that bumped them up a lot. Without a patch, even.
@DarkTree
Жыл бұрын
Carl in blazblue calamity trigger was the definition of this. went from bottom 1 to top 1 in the public eye literally overnight when someone figured out he had a universal and easy touch of death via abusing a weird system mechanic. still bad in every other way though.
@Richterdgf
Жыл бұрын
Kind of like Vergil in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. It may seem hard to believe, but at the time Ultimate dropped Vergil didn’t really seem to have much to offer. Then people figured him out. Vergil became a meta-defining destroyer of teams, and arguably the best anchor character in the game. He’s the guy you snap in, mix up, hopefully open up and then kill him by ANY MEANS NECESSARY. I’m glad to see that UMvC3 continued Vergil’s streak of only being playable in updated rereleases of games and completely DESTROYING those games. It’s happened in DMC 3, DMC 4, UMvC3, and now DMC5.
@mostverticalproductions4808
Жыл бұрын
Elena in USF4. Everyone, including Daigo and other JP pros thought she was terrible. Come to find out she was annoying, healing was tip of the iceberg.
@morrays1996
Жыл бұрын
Every few months I go back and rewatch your kompetive history videos, definitely a great mix of informative and fun!!
@CharlieKraken
Жыл бұрын
Hey I just wanted to say thank you guys for the great videos! I'm not even really a big fan of Mortal Kombat, but the passion for the subject and detail in your videos makes them engaging regardless! Keep it up and God bless!
@peytongibbs2171
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes... Jade Kenshi matchup in MK9, I think the very first 9-1 matchup I ever found out existed. I vaguely remember an event where a Kenshi player (Pig of the hut?) Played like 5-10 Jade players that just struggled so so hard to even get a single round between them.
@peytongibbs2171
Жыл бұрын
Well I looked for a link or something to the stream, but for the life of me I can't find it. However, ,more details for those interested. It was Pig of the Hut as Kenshi, in a first to 5 against 5 great Jade players (RunwayMafia, STB Goldfish, Mr. Mileena, STB Espio, AestheticLove). Pig went 25-0. He lost 4 rounds total.
@brenogoda388
Жыл бұрын
As an mk9 Jade main, that Kenshi matchup was brutal. It was pretty much a guaranteed loss
@Not_Brandino
Жыл бұрын
Guess I dodged a bullet with Jade in MK9 Cause I was for sure gonna main her when the game was new lol
@Swift_Mei_Mei
Жыл бұрын
I love these videos, I hope You keep making this series on MK characters competitive histories!
@LtheOriginal
Жыл бұрын
I always loved the concept of Bottom tier characters in the same vein as Top tier characters, in that it's intriguing looking at how "what about them makes them so terrible." and just how extreme that CAN get. Like with Kai and his fireballs just....Not working Although, I do tend to find that people who main these characters seem to get oddly defensive about the fact.
@LordRaptor
Жыл бұрын
Competitive Shang Tsung in UMK3 is an absolute treat to watch.
@osas201
Жыл бұрын
Kai has so much potential! That vertical fireball in 2D wall trap is a problem
@Fallub
Жыл бұрын
Great video with lots of information. Thank you.
@msvideogames1996
Жыл бұрын
Kai had Scorpion his fighting style in Mortal Kombat Deception.
@jayhp
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Have you tried the GOG MK Trilogy that came out a few months ago? Would be interested to see your take on the improvements!
@shaynehughes6645
Жыл бұрын
6:33 This clip was all you needed for Kai bro
@mandalorianhunter1
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad we are getting hopefully more consistent content coming
@shogunofsodomy5446
Жыл бұрын
Love this video! We always talk about who's good, but rarely about who's bad. I hope you revisit this topic!
@tairrdelbach
Жыл бұрын
Kai would make great pyromancer. Scorpion have some fire tricks but he also ghost, skeleton and ninja.
@andrewquick4176
Жыл бұрын
Would LOVE for Kai to come back
@xpirate16
Жыл бұрын
6:34 you know a projectile is useless when the other player just has to lie down to dodge it 😂
@lenardregencia
Жыл бұрын
4:27 Kobra vs. Kai Cobra Kai!!
@Jacksmusicshack
Жыл бұрын
HE PREDICTED KOBRA KAI... Simpsons did it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@meganinten0078
Жыл бұрын
MK9 Jade is trash tier competitive but is S tier in terms of designs for the gorgeous edenian 😍🥰
@Tjstevens_
Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy the videos! Hope y'all are well!
@GazettiSF
Жыл бұрын
its so funny that you can lay down in that game and avoid a fireball
@kupidzheart
Жыл бұрын
kobra vs kai.....i see what they did there
@miaouew
Жыл бұрын
Say what you want about Sheeva but that UMK3 macquette is one of the best clay puppets I've ever seen. I don't know how much cleanup they had to do as far as the digital side but it looks like a living thing.
@my-pop-culture
Жыл бұрын
Never saw before a gameplay analisis, of the older games (mk1 to Armaggedon). Great job, dude.
@MaskedPlayer514
Жыл бұрын
While I don't have any competitive experience with MKDA, I would say when I was younger it felt that Cyrax really sucked, the damage on his strings was bad and he was one of the few characters I struggled to complete the arcade mode with. So even from a purely casual perspective you might have felt that he was bad lol.
@vandalg282
Жыл бұрын
Quan Chi had the roughest one, seeing as every patch week, was a nerf. He was so strong first week, fast, frames, okie, grabs, etc...then they just made him so no one liked him or picked him.
@coomcharger6105
Жыл бұрын
Hey, his other two variations are still solid
@TZ587
Жыл бұрын
Another variation that got gutted just as hard, if not harder in MKX final patch was Outlaw Erron IMO. Like Warlock, he lost his armored combo starter for the variation which was the whole reason you'd use Outlaw; the variation strings were forgettable and the stab ender wasn't really relevant when you could just end everything with command grab for more damage. So you're left with vanilla Erron with a bunch of useless strings and a combo ender that he didn't need. It's safe to say that the final patch made Outlaw worthless, irrelevant and absolutely bottom tier
@TZ587
Жыл бұрын
@@AmiriHipHop his sand attack that stunned
@TZ587
Жыл бұрын
@@AmiriHipHop I literally typed 'combo starter' lmao. You get what I mean anyways
@sonicswag90
Жыл бұрын
I thought u was going to mention MK9 Stryker
@philvaneman5769
Жыл бұрын
Always excited to see a new K&M video. 🤘🏻😁
@Richterdgf
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these deep dives into MK history.
@Garrettsamuel98
Жыл бұрын
Awww I actually loved Quan Chi Warlock and Unbreakable Sub-Zero
@izy8783
Жыл бұрын
I love Kai's special moves it allows me to dribble my opponents.
@ThomasMink
Жыл бұрын
Wow.. Baraka didn't make it. He's been bottom tier in like every game he appeared in.. aside from Deception and MK11. Guess it says something when another character in the same game is worse. Still love him though.
@ThisIsEduardo
Жыл бұрын
Great video ! I still have great memories of MK3/UMK3, MK Deception, MK 9 ! I love this game ! ❤️🔥🐉
@pauloblack5225
9 ай бұрын
We gotta admit that Hsu Hao, while being an unfavorite character in MK, has big damage combos and pressure...
@kyle21843
Жыл бұрын
im actually surprised jade was on the list in mk9 she was one of my main go-to characters in that game. but then again i dont understand all of the frame work and just play for fun
@djkillermemestar1265
Жыл бұрын
I think a cool video idea, would be the lowest tier character in every Mortal Kombat game, lol maybe even do Shaolin monks
@ICY-HURR
Жыл бұрын
Sucks because jade was my favorite character. I definitely was a competitive jade mk9 player but damn, no match like you said
@gabrielpezzi8774
Жыл бұрын
Was looking for the meaning of the traffic lights-like bars meaning in MK Deception and got a jewel. Suscribed
@meganinten0078
Жыл бұрын
Kai (AKA Carl): It's finally my time to shine! Jokes aside I feel sorry for Carl. I think the devs gave up with him as you can see in his ending in MK4 Btw, in case you are wondering why I call him Carl, it'd because of the guy from the Simpsons. I have calling him like that for many years xD
@Amp661
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have Kai return over Erron Black or Dvorah.
@ImperfectD
Жыл бұрын
What do those do have to do with one another? It's actually sounding quite racist. 🙃
@meganinten0078
Жыл бұрын
@@ImperfectD I also called him as Carl because of CJ from GTA 🤭 When I was little playing MK4, I always found Kai very forgettable and lame that's why I decided to calling him like that. It is like stop calling Superman 64 as Superman 64 when in reality is called just Superman. And besides, I like dark humor 😆
@KIISwitch
Жыл бұрын
@@ImperfectD How DARE him call a fictional character by a different name!?!?
@Tim85-y2q
Жыл бұрын
I'd say Drunken Master Bo'Rai'Cho from MKX should be on this list. I think it's fun to play, but it doesn't really offer much competitively.
@christhedicemaniac4318
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Striker isn't on this list at all is amazing. Oh and the reason Cyrax sucked in that game is because he didn't have his green net.
@kylenguyen7371
Жыл бұрын
10:22 That patch went overkill on Warlock Quan, and I don't even think NRS intended it to.
@RoyArkon
Жыл бұрын
Obviously they knew it would nerf that Variation, but they probably thought it would still be viable. Stuff like this happens in balancing fighting games in general, although that after all of the patches, MKX is one of the most balanced games, not just in MK games, but fighting games as a whole.
@harryf9885
5 ай бұрын
Lol we probably have jade glow and jade being bad for peacemaker being busted in mk1 when when he came out (he has the glow, but also like insane damage instead of bad damage, full screen approach options for getting in against non-projectile keep-out, his own full screen gunshots, and a bunch of other stuff. Also the best zoner in the game isn’t completely immune to his glow unlike with Jade so that helps too).
@tyronleung5276
Жыл бұрын
How is Kai low teir he has plenty potential but they choose not to develop his character he had full potential to be a kombat kid they brought in fujin in mkx and mk11
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
Жыл бұрын
Competitively low tier, not character wise.
@RoyArkon
Жыл бұрын
Thankfully MK11 Jade is so much better, I'm a Jade main in MK11 and I love playing here in that game, fits my playstyle very much.
@shaolinsnake9650
Жыл бұрын
Kai isnt Armageddon exlusive, he is in mk4...
@hurricane7727
Жыл бұрын
And Appears in Mk Deception Konquest Mode
@the_sixxness
Жыл бұрын
As someone who used Jade in MK 9 I can confirm she was not very good. I used her to challenge myself and practice fundamentals.
@ProctorTheKrow
Жыл бұрын
Still to this day, I want to know what idiot thought it was a good idea to make grabs blockable in MKDA. That's the entire point of a grab. On a side note, Quan Chi's warlock variation is the only one I play with him. Sad that its so bad though
@Gianno_
Жыл бұрын
Will we ever get an MK meta video for MK Deception?
@Arnichoutoutou
Жыл бұрын
interesting, cool video
@ladyhdwastaken
7 ай бұрын
Always was a bummer that Jade was so bad in MK9. It was her most enjoyable iteration to me and it was .. rough.
@stirlock
Жыл бұрын
What's the music from? Kinda sounds like it sould be from fighterz
@nocturneprividyenie2391
Жыл бұрын
... Jade got done dirty in MK9. Quite sad, considering how obnoxious she was in UMK3. Actually, that begs the question - Which game was she in where she was at her absolute strongest?
@PNDKM
Жыл бұрын
She did have an infinite in 3d but ill need to find out how strong she was overall. It could possibly be mk11 due to how many people hate fighting her, but even then im not sure!
@jh047o
Жыл бұрын
@@PNDKM ok this will be a weird answer but: MK Mobile, her assassin variation makes her one of the best fighters and the most annoying to fight against she has a weird dodge or roll that can completely avoid all damage, which is one of her primary appeals, l'd like to see you do a video about the completely insane meta of that game
@binkaram6577
Жыл бұрын
i dont remember sheeva was present in UMK3 in both consoles genesis and snes (dont know about the arcade)
@mrstudent9125
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@katiehable9841
Жыл бұрын
I love how this video was all about how weak these characters are, but the clips used usually show them wining or at the very least doing decently well.
@playerknownasmousecop
Жыл бұрын
Dude even tho I didn’t play Kobra cuz Johnny has always been my main, I miss him for some reason
@legionbeast
Жыл бұрын
I KNEW Drahmin wasn't the worst character in DA.
@PNDKM
Жыл бұрын
He was actually top tier in DA
@MugsWithBeards
Жыл бұрын
Only time we'll ever see kai
@NeotheDarkspine
Жыл бұрын
4:30 Kobra Kai. Heh.
@YoKhai1221
Жыл бұрын
I was actually pretty good with Kai back in the day (Mk4). I was borderline unbeatable with him, Cyrax and Scorpion in my small circle.
@MoonOvIce
Жыл бұрын
You mean MK Gold? Cyrax was in gold but not in the normal MK4.
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
Жыл бұрын
Sheiva being bad in UMK3 is surprising considering her release status in MK11.
@hands-ongaming7180
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, those competitive ps2 mk games that was in ALL the tournaments 😂😂😂
@SidneyMosley
Жыл бұрын
Are we ever gonna see a Liu Kang episode?
@JessesAuditorium
Жыл бұрын
Background music
@FreddyJenkins
Жыл бұрын
12:37 GOOD that`s what she gets for being a cheater in Mk Trilogy. Everytime I fought her she would use her cloak and charge at me and keep grabbing me but there`s no way to avoid her.
@francescafeik9576
Жыл бұрын
I think that taven was way weaker than Kai
@SerbianSpark19
Жыл бұрын
Music plz its badass
@sadetwizelve
Жыл бұрын
4:51 it isn’t ABSOLUTE
@nassimzerhouani3813
Жыл бұрын
I used to olay Kai a lot
@NugiUK
Жыл бұрын
never realised sheeva was so bad in mk3! mind you i played it as a kid so my memory aint the best! great video yet again!
@intensellylit4100
Жыл бұрын
Spelled Sheeva as "Shiva" in the chapters lol
@nocandoslurms433
Жыл бұрын
I dunno, the MK9 Prima Games guide said Jade was pretty good.
@RoyArkon
Жыл бұрын
The Prima guides were actually not good at all. Ketchup even made a whole video about it. kzitem.info/news/bejne/lqmDyoCDcF-AiHo
@nocandoslurms433
Жыл бұрын
@@RoyArkon That's the joke.
@RoyArkon
Жыл бұрын
@@nocandoslurms433 Oh ok, didn't realize you were joking.
@LiminalMan777
Жыл бұрын
Listening to describe actions reminds me why I suck at MK
@Soul93Taker
Жыл бұрын
Argentina won the match and now an upload. My day is officially fukken good.
@fubusupporter5933
Жыл бұрын
How scared was you when Martinez walked up for the last penalty?
@Soul93Taker
Жыл бұрын
@@fubusupporter5933 almost everyone in the room had devolved into oogah boogah by that time haha. Grande Dibu!!!!
@thebestonumeritos
Жыл бұрын
@@Soul93Taker Mirá que te como hermano - El Dibu Martínez
@maxifernandez1760
Жыл бұрын
Ngl I was expecting Mokap from MKA
@goni2493
Жыл бұрын
Kai should have been in the reboot.
@outis439-A
Жыл бұрын
Well Sheeva was used to break records I’m pretty sure
@cedfromct8088
Жыл бұрын
Anybody who’s god tier at mortal kombat knows that Shieva was a beast in MKT
@tvdinner1986
Жыл бұрын
4:12 Toasty!
@tan8067
Жыл бұрын
I really like Kai. I think if they decide to bring him back, they should reinvent his character. Make him a South African Zulu warrior who travels the world and eventually meets Liu Kang and Raiden & trains with the White Lotus Society and that's where he learns his fire powers. They should also give him a capoeira and Zulu stick fighting style. Things like that will add some flavor to his character, and he won't just be a Liu Kang rip off. He's got a great look, especially his MK4 look with the white stripes. If they can make Frost (who was originally a Sub-Zero 2.0, interesting...then they can make anyone interesting, even Hsu Hao. I think in MK12 they shouldn't introduce any new characters, they should bring back some old combatants from the 3d Era and make them more interesting, even if they're NPCs. I honestly didn't really like any of the new additions in MK12. Maybe Cetrion because of her move set, but other than that, the others didn't do it for me.
@Euro.Patriot
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Cyrax and Kitana in Deadly Alliance were unfairly bad.
@merciful_poseidon
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You misspelled ‘top’
@SpecialOrder_937
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HEY im pretty sure MKX Tremor should be on this list 😉
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