Good points, I hope this reaches a lot of people because the doomposting has been through the roof recently.
@jthepj108
Жыл бұрын
The WANDA main approves! 🗣️
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Big fan of your videos btw!
@chenjunnn
Жыл бұрын
Girl… “c6 wanderer not using CA is sunk cost” is a thing I’d never think I’ll hear but heard it anyway. So I won’t put it past people with the doomium that his c6 (amongst other things) is mid just like his height 😂
@shimalding
Жыл бұрын
@@chenjunnn "mid just like his height" Chen, you are ruthless lmao
@chenjunnn
Жыл бұрын
@@shimalding and i thought i was being nice 🤣 because i could totally go one step further.
@monemori
Жыл бұрын
Btw another misconception I think is that he ungroups enemies/staggers them away... That only happens if you are spamming CAs (which... Even if it was the way to get more damage, why do it if it's causing enemies to ungroup? I don't understand people fr). But also, literally he has so much mobility that you can play with enemies Aggro to force them to group however you see fit at the same time as you attack, just by virtue of positioning yourself. Feel like a lot of these misconceptions come from him having a very different kit than most other characters, which people don't get time to fully understand.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yeah you are right I should’ve mentioned that when talking about NA vs CA! You are correct that his CA only actually ungroups if you do 2+ in a row. The first charged attack pretty much always pushes enemies in the same direction so if you are doing N2C the ungrouping doesn’t actually happen. It’s yet another reason why you shouldn’t CA spam
@NotAName1
Жыл бұрын
This is the best info I've seen on Wanderer, in so many guides they're often talking purely about his DPS sheets, but not as much about his actual mechanics. Some things look possible on paper but are rarely as viable in the abyss, like CA spam vs N2C
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! My guide will also have a lot more details!
@philipeschenbruch5922
Жыл бұрын
the weirdest thing about wanderer I heard was that for AoE I should spam charge attacks because the basics dont have great AoE, but the charge attacks also ungroup enemies so his AoE is bad ... I was legit confused and at that point just stopped listening to any guides I found period. I had a lot more fun trying to make things work myself instead of listening to people that apparently dont know their shit *thaaat* well after 2 days of his release
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s very important in this community to know how to look into and double check things yourself rather than take what people tell you at face value - so many big names in this community constantly spew complete nonsense
@robgeach8105
Жыл бұрын
his biggest problem is he showed up after people realized 8 on-field characters is enough primos. they can't trade the primos they spent on childe or xiao or c3 raiden or cyno, and those characters are all already good enough. you can undo the misconceptions but you can't convince people that clearing floor 12 in 2:25 instead of 2:45 is worth 150 pulls. that's why people talk up wanderer's overworld traversal so much... it's supposed to be the key difference to convince people they should pull for a 9th on-fielder. it's just not enough. hoyo kinda has to bring their a-game for me to bother with any other dedicated dps from now on. I'll still roll for interesting supports.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
yeah once you have that many on fielders then pulling for more either mostly becomes simply desiring more power, or just wanting something new. I wouldnt really say thats a problem tho, seeing as his banner still sold very well
@legenarian6811
Жыл бұрын
yk before i watched this video, i was really confused since wanderer's dps at high talent levels were really crazy due to his scaling but on most places of the internet they said that he was eh. at least now it was kinda a misconception
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately there’s so much bad information spread around
@jo0rd73
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna say two things that really annoy me with wanderer info out there is 1. He NEEDS a shield (same gripe I have with people who talk about Yoimiya) and 2. People over rating lost prayer. With number 1, sure it makes it much easier especially since him being airborne means being hit is a significant damage loss so you need to dodge a bit but this is literally accounted for in his kit with his dash passive actually being able to do damage paired with his attack speed set and weapon passive. It’s harder to use him without a shielder for sure but no character ever absolutely needs one. Generally I’ll go for a sub DPS or damage booster over a shielder in any team that could slot one in for ease of play. I much prefer the damage boost and sub DPS of Yelan over a shielder for him and I love his plays style and like to think I play him pretty well xD Then 2….lost prayer man. Theoretically second best weapon! Practically though? Rarely for quite a lot of players. Kinda like Xiao with Jade spear over Homa except worse because it gives you more crit. I guess it’s also an issue characters like Cyno and Tighnari have, using a 44 crit rate weapon making it harder to have a balanced ratio over other characters with their signatures. Anyway this is all because of Wanderer ascending with crit rate. Level 80 ascended+ with lost prayer puts you at 57.3:50 if I’m remembering right. This means you’re looking for unicorn level of artefacts that roll mostly or all into crit damage. This gets even worse if you pair him Layla where his passive will give him EVEN MORE crit rate after swirling cryo. I just have an issue with the main TC sources people go to sometimes, that I hear/see a lot of calcs that are based on best case scenario. A scenario that the majority of people aren’t going to be able to reach/take advantage of. Kind of like C1 Hu Tao theoretically being a nice damage boost but only if you play extremely well. For most players it’ll end up being little to no difference because of how they’ll play, and it’s a caveat I don’t hear often just like the caveat with wanderer and lost prayer. Anyway I ranted quite a bit there lol but great video as always man always glad to see when you upload!
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Yeah people acting like he *needs* a shield gets obnoxious- we are talking about a character that can literally move while attacking, gets free dodges that he can use without losing any DPS, is literally flying so a lot of attacks just can’t even hit him, and can just fly higher and be out of reach for almost everything. The idea that he *needs* a shielder is silly and I hate it. And yeah overcapping on CR with lost prayers is a huge issue that no one else seems to ever talk about - I literally can’t use the weapon on my Wanderer anymore because I will overcap
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoirI agree he doesn’t *need* one but there is an obnoxious amount of ground based attacks that just..hit him. Additionally his dodge is kinda wired to control so it might come off as clunky for some people. And don’t forget when he gets hit out of the air it feels like an eternity of stagger. So yea he doesn’t *need* one but there’s a reason people feel that way.
@shimalding
Жыл бұрын
@@wilburforce8046 If you press dodge while he's staggered, he recovers right away.
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
@@shimalding doesn’t seem to work for me lol must be mashing it too early
@shimalding
Жыл бұрын
@@wilburforce8046 Could be the case. During stagger skill icons for both dodge and ascend change to indicate that you can press either of them to recover - try to get hit intentionally and observe the changes in UI, then see if you can get the timing right.
@Livtha
Жыл бұрын
I'm pulling for Wandererso I've been watching alot of Wanderer videos. I don't care if he is meta or not but, I was really confused as to why people say he's not that good. You video cleared some things up for me. My Wanderer won't be very strong I inly have an r2 widsth and will work on farming his artifct set. I also haven't unlocked his talents boss mats yet. I understand he will be like every other dps kind of underwhelming in damage until I've invested in him. Your point in the video about spiral clear times not representingWanderer very well, it really wasn't fair players to compare a new character with a new artifact set to a character like Hu Tao who has been highly invested in by players for a long time.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
So glad to hear it! Thank you for watching!
@oildon
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video! After personally testing, researching speedruns, and building him up for the past half year or so, it's been pretty clear to me that Wanderer, when played close to optimally with C6 Faruzan, is likely the overall best C0R1 DPS hypercarry in the game,. The people who claim he isn't "top meta" have likely either not invested enough into him, are playing him suboptimally, or are otherwise haters allergic to reason. For instance, in the Feast of Departed Warriors event, I was able to get the highest possible score for all three individual bosses and the second highest for the three-boss gauntlet (excluding the anemo res option) with a C0R1 Wanderer hypercarry team and NO FOOD, something that I highly doubt any other hypercarry at C0R1 in the game can do with only 4 star or C0R1 5 star supports.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! And, honestly it’s not even just C0R1. He’s very easily arguable to be the best hypercarry in the game at any constellation level as long as he has a c6 faruzan
@GodHandFemto
Жыл бұрын
Realistically I think it's the C6 Faruzan that's the issue. If you're pulling for Wanderer, it's hard to get C6 Faruzan without also getting Wanderer cons, so a lot of ppl talking about C0 Wanderer won't have C6 Faruzan and that's why he's underrated IMO.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@GodHandFemto probably plays a good factor to it yeah
@yepyepyepype-fu4yf
Жыл бұрын
He is not underrated. He is trash without c6 faruzan. And she is insanely hard to c6.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@yepyepyepype-fu4yf Have you considered the possibility that people also underrate him even when assuming a c6 faruzan?
@SlyRocko
Жыл бұрын
The people who claim he "needs" a shield simply haven't looked at Wanderer's kit. These are the same people who shived shields away from DPS characters because you can just dodge instead, but now they completely flip the script on someone who has in built free dodges?????
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
I know right? The hypocrisy is insane
@AzrexoInrexisqrue-jq6dt
Жыл бұрын
In some cases shield is important. Those hydro fungus on steroids in his artifact domain is one of those cases
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@AzrexoInrexisqrue-jq6dt oh god I HATE those things
@ivyyesmin
7 ай бұрын
Me playing him without shield .. without c1 faruzan, c1 Benny and c0 Mona 💀 and clearing my abyss 🗿 he is my first DPS and I am fully satisfied with him at c0 too 💀
@kianmarcial8884
Жыл бұрын
you should have put the misconception of jean c4 is better than c0-c2 faruzan
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh good point! Tho I would say she’s better than c2 faruzan; imo Faruzan shouldn’t be used before C2
@ameliatheressa1911
Жыл бұрын
Lol..jean radius is fcking small n duration low also to replace faruzan..*im talking about wanderer team
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@ameliatheressa1911 yeah trying to rely on her can be very impractical especially in multiwave
@leandrodelmistro2238
Жыл бұрын
speak the truth brother people who call Wonderer B tier and ok are delusional. He is one of the best dps in the game along with Xiao and Alhaithem.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@CrybabyEm
Жыл бұрын
I hate seeing so much wanderer slander and ppl calling him mid. Thanks for this!
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s frustrating seeing people be so confidently negative about him while being so wrong!
@persephonehades7547
Жыл бұрын
He's very much a QoL DPS as well. He does great damage while effectively never having to move away from the center of the arena. I personally felt the need to sideline his artifact grinding to fine tune international, because I won the 50/50 on Kazuha's banner and this abyss REALLY didn't like my account at all, but he's definitely a character I'm gonna go back to and build up better later on. Sidenote: What's the predator and prey team? I've never heard of it and results on google isn't helping.
@Fielith
Жыл бұрын
yeah, asking the same thing
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly his range is insanely QoL! And, the predator and the prey is Tighnari Yae fischl Kazuha. The name is a joke about how Tighnaris previous VA was a creep
@indignation1684
Жыл бұрын
Just came back here after watching Z****'s take that LPWS CA spam is better than R1 NA spam and god how wrong he is im crying
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how he even managed to convince himself of that
@zenoafro
Жыл бұрын
Got wanderer on his first banner, still he doesn't do well on floor 12 of Abyss💀 Maybe it's because I'm using him on 2-2 piece artifact and don't have a c6 Faruzan or his higher constellation😂😂
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
That is exactly why. You are likely doing like half the damage you would with a full DPC set and a c6 faruzan. Wanderer is an extremely powerful dps but you need to put in the work to bring out that potential
@zenoafro
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir I farmed for some weeks but couldn't get the right set so I left him at 2 piece mix and about C6 Faruzan, she has been dodging me all the time like the first time I didn't got a single Faruzan(My first copy was from event and from the recent banner got her to c2)
@tarunraina3247
Жыл бұрын
The analysis on using him without a shield was actually something I haven't seen many tcs talk about. On the topic of that. Do you think its better to ever Use Dehya over zhongli in a wando faruzan bennett flex team? My dehya and zhongli are both c1 and while i agree that zhongli is more comfortable, I would like to know how dehya performs with him COMPARED to Zhongli. Cause proccing fav with zhongli can be hard sometimes sooo yeah.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
better dps with dehya than zhongli unless enemy has high resistances to make ZLs shred more valuable
@An3m0
Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Proud to be a Wanderer main.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bikih360
Жыл бұрын
A big sub for finally saying truth about my man 🎉.....
@s-zs7nn
Жыл бұрын
Those dps numbers looked way too high for all the teams. aint no way eula is doing 55k dps. everything else also looks way overboard. is this with like abyss buffs or 5 star weapons or loads of good subs or smth? Definitely doesnt look kqm standard investment
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Hi sorry for late response I didn’t get notified of your response. I calc with triple crowned talents and I assume the main dps is using their 5 star weapon , so my numbers are higher than other people because most people calc at 9/9/9 and use r1 BP weapons, r3 gacha 4 star weapons, no 5 star weapons. You can’t compare my numbers to other peoples calcs because no one else that I know of calcs the way I do. The sub-stats are KQMCS tho. If you want to see the sheet for my calcs I can link you the sheet but I can’t link it on KZitem because I have heard of Hoyo getting videos taken down for sharing the template that I use. You can message me on discord for it
@s-zs7nn
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir ahh that makes a lot more sense now thx for the explanation. 5 star weapons actually benefit teams like ayaka, hutao and raiden much more than wanderer so its interesting to see he outperforms them with cheaper supports at r1. I would not have expected that. That would be great actually. Do u have a dc server? Or u in kqm?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@s-zs7nn im in this Wanderer mains server discord.gg/wanderermains
@Fielith
Жыл бұрын
i LOVE this video so much. this is literally what i was searching for. i hope you could make another video like this
@Fielith
Жыл бұрын
idk about people that always doomposting wanderer just to make their main be "better", wanderer literally has best exploration skill and as a dps
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@Fieliththose people just have no idea what they are talking about. Imo the only dps you can legit argue is better than him is Alhaitham and even then idk
@EinTheVariance
Жыл бұрын
Im surprised hyper raiden is so low in the misconception 2 chart. Ig this is just c0? Still, I'd be interested to see the calcs for these teams. I think you are right regarding the misconceptions but I have a hard time believing hyper Raiden falls behind klee or diluc in a proper team/rotation hence why I'm asking I saw the Xiao vs Wanderer comparison but given that Xiao was using Thoma vs Yunjin, it seems inevitable that he falls behind, esp if this is a single target dmg calc
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for late response I didn’t get notified of your comment! The calcs are done with c0 5 stars and the main dps with r1 of their weapon, everyone else on 4 star weapons. C0 hyper Raiden was never a particular outstanding sheet dps team compared to other meta teams - the back to back AoE frontload of Sara and her bursts is it’s biggest advantage at c0 Raiden. Klee has always had very good team dps just no one really does Klee calcs. Diluc is also just criminally underrated - the melt team calc is using a c6 Kaeya and melt is a lot weaker than this if Kaeya isn’t c6, but melt Diluc (Diluc Yelan Kazuha bennett) sheets around 63k so it’s a perfectly strong team for people without c6 Kaeya to play. And as for Xiao, thing is he has absolutely no mobility so imo he is way more reliant on having a shielder than Wanderer + the crystalize from Yun Jin is very often plenty enough shielding for Wanderer to not get staggered. Xiao also just simply doesn’t really have many options for his 4th slot other than a shielder to begin with. The best I can think of is Xiangling - which I have calced and that comes out to 70k. Can of course be higher in practice against big hitbox enemies since both Xiao and Xiangling can get extra damage there
@jeanpierrelizarraga539
Жыл бұрын
Thx for this video bro , i love the wanderer too , mine is C2 cause i was searching for Faruzan , she is C5 :( , i going to pull for her now in kokomi's banner 😊 only need one hehe
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
awesome! so excited for you to finally get to experience the power of having a c6 faruzan!
@monemori
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, looking forward to the guide. I'm excited to get his C2 on his rerun! ^^ Unsure if running an ER sands will be worth it then although I suppose it can be depending on artifacts haha
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Never use an ER sands on Wanderer. He needs little to no ER at all
@Fielith
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir hello, what does 4n3n2 mean? is it a string of 4 normal attack or..
@Fielith
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir btw, what is The Predator and The Prey teams are?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@Fielith Tighnari Yae fischl Kazuha
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@Fielith N3 then N2 plus a dash after the N2. Basically dashing after every other N2 because you’re guaranteed to have a4 up by then
@seiyuokamihimura5082
Жыл бұрын
Managed to get him c1 :) so c1 yae, c1 wanderer, c2 hutao(or c6 thoma) and c0 kokomi as a team. Switch between scara and nahida as needed.
@ixirion
Жыл бұрын
I main him since release. Whne he works he is monster. But I have problem with that he is squishy, no interuption resistance and even C2 is making him backloged. I prefer bursting in start of rotation since all buffs are active and enmies are grouped :/
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
You can get all buffs on his burst even when using it at the end of his rotation. Faruzan lasts 22 seconds bennett lasts 14 seconds wanderers field time is 12-13 seconds. And if you struggle with him being squishy you can just use a strong shielder like Layla Thoma or Zhongli
@ixirion
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir I agree with your points. Faru is I think 18 secs. I preffer however If I could slot subdps more easily than shielders. Since I however want to optimize I preffer to burstswap to wanderer after Beny. I even submit feedback to Hoyo that he is hit to easily without shield and recieved auto mail to send them video :/ Dont get me wrong. Overall he is also my fav char.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@ixirion Faruzan burst lasts 18 seconds but her buff lasts 4 seconds, so it is still lingering for 4 seconds after her burst ends for a total buff duration of 22 seconds. Also if you like using sub DPS but don't want to get hit without a Shield, you could try using Yelan. Since she is Hydro you will get extra of Wanderer's points in his Skill with her. You can use those extra points to press the jump button and fly higher, without losing much field time
@Vanitas01
Жыл бұрын
i want faruzan cons..but m saving for furina...at 63 pity rn what should I do ?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
assuming she is the Archon like most people are speculating, she prob wont be here until 4.2 like nahdia in 3.2. so pulling now you should have plenty of time to save back up for her. but, i dont really give pull advice
@NukeWarrior
Жыл бұрын
she will prob be at 4.2 update, so you have plenty of time to farm ngl
@Vanitas01
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir i see should i go for c1 ? i mean worth it ?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@Vanitas01 if you’re really focused on saving as much as you can for Fontaine then just pulling till faruzan c6 and stopping at whatever Wanderer constellation that gets you to might be wise
@finebook281
Жыл бұрын
How are you getting 6N2C with LPSW? Is that with constellations? At C0 LPSW with a normal team of Faruzan, Bennett, Thoma, I am completely unable to get 6N2C. I can get 14CA though.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
N2C might just be mechanically difficult for you. If you can consistently get 14 CA but not 6N2C N1 then as long as you aren’t having issues with CA like ungrouping by all means stick with it
@scaramouche7759
Жыл бұрын
The thing people don’t get is, Wanderer is good for golden wolflord. That should be enough reason to get him 😂
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
making annoying content no longer annoying is certainly excellent value
@monemori
Жыл бұрын
One question, isn't it a bit unfair on Xiao to show calcs with him with Thoma but using that flex slot for Yunjin in Wanderer's case? If anything I think there's more cases where running Xiao shieldless is doable than with Wanderer, no? I do think both of them are very strong DPS with Faru, but yeah. Also another question, since you've said this before: why do you say most everything in the sim is wrong? In my experience, it's pretty accurate to reality of DPS output ina vacuum, which is what the sim is there for. I also think sim standards of investment fuck over hypercarry teams (for example: no one has a 9/9/9 faru without a crowned Scara, lbr), but that should be a given, no? At least, I don't think it's fooling anyone, only people who don't understand that the purpose of the sim is not to create a "tier list" I'd say. Like people take sim numbers like the holy grail with no nuance, but that's not the fault of the sim imo. Also there's many advantages of Wanderer that are not shown in the sim, like you said his range is insane and he makes dealing with highly mobile bosses a breeze (no pun intended). That together with his multiwave capabilities make him easily one of the best picks for many abyss cycles, regardless of what the face value sim numbers say. Idk. People are able to understand that internat is very very good even when it sheets low, they should be able to understand what makes Scara perform so well in real combat in contrast with his more modest sim numbers. Again, just my impressions, but I think the sim is accurate for what it's trying to do, it's just that people do not know how to interpret abyss numbers properly. Just imo. Would love to hear your thoughts and sorry for the lengthy comment!
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Regarding Xiao with Thoma and Wanderer with Yun Jin - the thing is Xiao doesn't have many options for his 4th slot that would provide more DPS than Thoma/ZL - his 4th slot isnt nearly as flexible as Wanderer's. And Yun JIn, as mentioned in this video, very often suffices as a Shielder for Wanderer because of Crystalize. In single target she will make 1-2 Crystals which is usally enough in since bosses are often not that hard to dodge, so you aren't likely to get hit more than twice at most. And in AoE, both her skill and Burst are AoE so they can make quite a few Crystals. Also Xiao has basically no mobility, compared to Wanderer who has a lot of mobility so I would argue that he is more reliant on a Shield. However if you are curious, a C0 Wanderer with Thom as the 4th is about 69k DPS. Higher if you use Layla or Yanfei as the Shielder (just know that Yanfei wont shield you every rotation most of the time cuz energy) edit: also about gcsim most sims on there are riddled with issues because of people using it as a tier list. and the sim itself has many problems like not properly registering attack speed (which causes literally any Wanderer sim to be heavily deflated)
@AkiraN19
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir In my experience, while Xiao doesn't dodge like normal DPSs do, his jumps/plunges allow you to avoid majority of attacks as long as you're actually reading your enemies and thinking about what you're doing. While I agree that the last slot isn't nearly as flexible with him, mainly because the usual units that would be there like said Yunjin or someone like Yelan, just aren't viable with him. But he honestly doesn't need a shield either. I think this concept just comes from the more casual side of the community. A lot of people don't actually learn or don't want to learn enemy patterns and that makes it hard for them to dodge. So when it comes to characters that can actually be staggered mid air, people lose it. And that's fair, I suppose. Casual players can do whatever they want with their experience, but then it blows out of proportion like this
@monemori
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir thanks for the reply!
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@monemori of course!
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@AkiraN19 yeah that makes sense - the best thing I can think of for his 4th slot if not doing a Shielder is Xiangling
@indignation1684
Жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to that guide!!
@steeveeteevee
Жыл бұрын
always thankful for your work re: Wanderer!!
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated!
@NoNameCherry
Жыл бұрын
Me with C0, Talent 9-9-9 Wanderer: I love the brat. 🥰
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
He’s not just a brat, he’s our brat!
@GoldfishOfDoom
Жыл бұрын
THIS VIDEO IS SO TRUE!!! :) YOU REALLY COVERED ALL THE POINTS I WOULD HAVE SAID TO ANY1 REGARDING WANDERER!!! :) YOU ARE VERY UNDERRATED!!! :) Also, I just love to see new/old channels like me pop-up and grow! :) I wanted to encourage you! :) Your videos are really really amazing and helpful with awesome detailed explanations with tables and just everything well-edited! :) The amount of hard work you put in, I really respect that!! :) KEEP IT UP!!! :) With these efforts you will achieve heights more than what you seek for!!! :) You are almost at 700, I'll sub to you so that I can watch you grow!!! :) THANK YOU!!! :) ❤❤💗💗💖💖💕💕❣❣
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I appreciate that so much! 😀
@GoldfishOfDoom
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir :) ❤
@internetuser9095
Жыл бұрын
I made a whole new account just to get him because i didn't have primos at the time. I run him throughout the entire story, still use him constantly even tho i pulled more characters on this account. The thing for me is his utility, playstyle and damage makes him unable to swap from my team
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Based!
@TheTony559
Жыл бұрын
As a Scaramouche main i can say safely say from experience that he is top tier with decent investment, but is he really a Top 2 DPS at C0 (including his weapon and C6 Faruzan)? And is it worth getting Zhongli if i have C2 Layla?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Question 1: Yes absolutely. The calculations shown in this video are down with a C0 Wanderer. As long as you have a C6 Faruzan Wanderer is insanely powerful at any constellation. I have C1 Wanderer and you can browse my channel and see plenty of Wanderer abyss runs. Second question: I would say no. Layla provides more DPS than Zhongli even without Constellations as long as the enemy doesn’t have 40% or more anemo resistance
@thanhtruong9909
Жыл бұрын
Damage wise whats the best team for him? Considering we're running Faruzan Bennet.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Pure numbers wise? C2 klee. Then c4 Jean. Then Layla with Freedom Sworn Bennett. Then Yun Jin C6. I will include calcs comparing all different 4th slots for him in the guide
@el7284
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoirYelan?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@el7284 yelan is up there if you have freedom sworn bennett
@AzrexoInrexisqrue-jq6dt
Жыл бұрын
What's "The predator and the prey" team comp?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
tighnari yae fisch kazuha
@nanika6387
Жыл бұрын
I have dehya skill with interruption resistance imma pull wanderer
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Dehya works surprisingly well for that with him - it’s imo the only team right now where she has a legitimate use case
@Th3dric
Жыл бұрын
Small question regarding his weapon of choice, should I give A Thousand Floating Dreams to Yae on Alhaitham's spread team and give Wanderer Yae's R5 Widsith? FYI I have Sac Frags R4, Fav R2, Mappa Mare R1 and Thrilling tales as alternatives.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
based on the weapons you have you should absolutely do that yes. Wanderers 3 best weapons are his signature, lost prayers, and widsith. Widsith is really his only good 4 star weapon
@Th3dric
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir noted, ty
@RichardCory-ff4wf
Жыл бұрын
looking forward to the guide!
@isoundout
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video :) I have a question What is a good lvl of investment for Wanderer as a F2P in your opinion? (Outside of lvl90 and lvl9 talents at least) I've been planing on going for him and as of now I have a R1 Widsith, some decent Shimenawas pieces and some decent VV pieces with an AnemoDMG goblet but not enough for a 4pc set Do you think a 2pc 2pc set is going to be good enough?
@Main_Hu_Tao_Hater_reborn
Жыл бұрын
2+2 are very much inferior to full sets (chronicles/simenava) somewhere 15-20% loss of damage, the wanderer is an expensive unit for resin and primogems, this is its only drawback
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Level 90, triple crown all 3 talents, get your widsith to r5, and farm for the DPC set. 2 piece 2 piece set on him is very far behind
@isoundout
Жыл бұрын
Thanks both for ur responses :) If this is the case then I think I'll skip him for now
@NaMe-zg9qs
Жыл бұрын
3:20 surely he is not beating quickbloom cyno and hutao in singal target, maybe aoe he can beat hutao
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Why do you think he can’t? There are c0r1 Wanderer beating the dinosaur on 12-2-1 in 15s this abyss cycle. Also there is no “maybe” with him beating Hu Tao in AoE; that’s not even close
@NaMe-zg9qs
Жыл бұрын
@GenshinNoir His multipliers don't seem that high. He had like 130-150 autos and 220 charged with his skill giving 1.5x effect which is very good but hutao starts off with like 230% charged and gives herself a huge atk buff. Wanderer has innate buffs when he swirls but hutao below 50% gives like 33% pyro dmg which honestly seems better. As for qb cyno, his dmg is probably somewhat lower than wanderers but I doubt by a huge margin and cyno also has the hyperblooms itself and also characters like xinqiu and yelan.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@NaMe-zg9qs A 10/10/10 Wanderer with his Skill multiplier in effect has 208 multiplier on N1, 197 on N2, and and 144x2 on N3. Then, on top of that you have to account for the fact that he is a Catalyst user and fully benefits from Attack Speed which is basically an extra damage multiplier for him. Then you have to remember that he gets an absurd amount of buffs in his team. In a rotation like the one I calced him in the video, where he does 4N3N2D+N2, his total multipliers over the entire rotation is over 6800. Faruzan buffs by insane amounts, bennett buffs by insane amounts, Yun Jin buffs by insane amounts. He is the most buffable DPS in the entire game. As for Cyno, he does more damage per rotation but his rotation is longer so the DPS is lower. However in practice that can mean Cyno clearing faster in single target if he finishes the boss in one rotation but Wanderer may have to start a new one. And, Hu Taos damage goes up a lot when she’s below 50% HP. My calcs assume she is above 50% every 1/3 rotation because it’s literally impossible to below 50% 100% of the time. If we assume she is below 50% all the time then her DPS goes up to 71k (still lower than Wanderer)
@asterion3587
Жыл бұрын
4:41 Where can I find the Genshin speedrun website?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
ysmuskreef.com/ they stopped doing speedrun competetions after 3.5 so theres nothing beyond 3.5 here
@asterion3587
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir Thanks
@bijaylimbu5616
Жыл бұрын
For widsth, which is better, CA OR normal?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
N2C unless you are using Yun Jin or have 20% more NA speed than CA speed
@bijaylimbu5616
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoirok. thank u for replying.
@deadencicle
Жыл бұрын
I’m very interested in seeing your upcoming guide, and I hope it will be as detailed as it can be. I want to learn any little trick and mechanic about Wanderer. I don’t know if there is any good guide already available, but I can’t find any. When I checked the KQM guide, I was so disappointed, it really lacks depth in many of its sections, and the team composition part is so bad, with some bad recommendations, and very superficial description of what the characters provide to the teams. I couldn’t learn anything, except some detail about the flight mechanic that can be nice to know when travelling or exploring. I wonder if they are working on an update.
@AF-yk3mv
Жыл бұрын
What is this predator and prey team thats listed in misconception 2?
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Tighnari Yae Fischl Kazuha. The team name is a joke about how Tighnaris old VA was a creepo
@AF-yk3mv
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir oof, but good to know thanks. surprised to see that so high.
@oyfum2638
Жыл бұрын
Can you address the other misconception that I’ve heard being spread around that he “can’t clear chambers with husk knights since his CA ungroups them” I don’t own wanderer (I plan to) but that just sounds wrong on so many levels.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Huh I’ve never heard that one, but it’s definitely just flat out wrong. His CA really only ungroups if you are spamming it and as mentioned in the first misconception, you shouldn’t be doing CA spam to begin with
@TheLugia3
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoirit came from Zajef, he showed a clip of it. You can just use a grouper...
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLugia3 Oh God I should’ve known it came from him 😬you can also just not spam CA too. Wanderer only ungroups if you are using 2+ CA in a row which there is no reason to do
@rax6667
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLugia3 yes he did & now recently he said it in his stream that CA is only good for DMG but NA is better
@TheLugia3
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir I think he sheets at too low a level of artifact investment, and is too strict about energy requirements, which heavily skews his opinions in favor of teams that do transformative reaction damage and are more quickswappy.
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
Not sure why people doompost this man so hard. He can feel a bit clunky and can act as an investment check for certain accounts, but he’s easily better then a lot of other *hypercarry* centric teams if your willing to put in the time with him. At low investment he ain’t no quickswap in terms of brainless clears but he’s certainly not Eula tier either.
@Matthew-qt3jk
Жыл бұрын
Well he's a ST carry and there's no need to invest in such niche for 90% of genshin players when any random hyperbloom comp will easily perform better at low-mid investment. Doesn't mean he's bad but pulling for him and investing into him is only if you like him and want to main him or you're interested in speed running which is again, a small minority of players who're into that. The doomposting was over exaggerated such as "Wanderer being worse than Xiao" or "worst 5* dps" though but people do it intentionally hoping mihoyo would buff him but that wasn't just going to happen and we got Dehya two patches later.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@Matthew-qt3jk Wanderer is NOT a “ST” carry he is excellent in both ST and AoE I’m not sure where you are getting that he is ST from?
@rax6667
Жыл бұрын
I don't get it have u every seen his slash radius it covers as much radius as 2 enemies does most of the time u will be swirling Pyro so it's like semi aoe swirl atk but most importantly his slashes have greater radius than ppl make it to be im using him from the 1st banner & I never felt he was ST like how can u elaborate it to me
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@rax6667 yeah i have no idea where this notion that his normal attacks are ST come from it is completely and utterly false
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir I mean yea he’s fine in aoe but still not as brainless as Kazuha pressing the E button or Nilou mashing her keyboard. I think that’s why people don’t like him he does require investment and some skill to fully use what he’s got, and people typically just like to stick to unga bunga seeds and Kazuha who don’t even need to position enemies. Now does that make him bad? Not at decent levels of investment no. The doompoosting can feel strong sometimes.
@rax6667
Жыл бұрын
I really gave wanderer wid man like if I give him lost prayers he will have 98:210 with wid it's 68:250ish it's hurts to use him on wid which has 20sec cooldown more like a crit weapon than anything & his weapon banner is with koko which is the worst 🥲
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
I’m hoping in Fontaine we will get another good 5 star dps catalyst that he can use well!
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute I thought Zajef said charge attacks are better. 🧐
@shimalding
Жыл бұрын
You do N2C combos on low attack speed/no Tulaytullah Wanderer not because charged attacks are better by default in any situation, but because it's the only combo that can somewhat make up for the aforementioned low speed and lack of signature. When you have no attack speed, there is a painfully big gap in animation between N2 and N3, so it makes sense to just cancel the last normal and fit a quick ca in there. Zajef, however, thinks that it's the other way around. CA is always better because it has higher multipliers, so to him Tulaytullah suddenly becomes a weapon that "doesn't synergise with Wanderer's kit". Which is a top kek take, when everything in Wanda's kit screams "please use normal attacks and stack attack speed on me".
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
@@shimalding so far he’s gotten Cyno Nilou and wanderer wrong then. Sadge
@rax6667
Жыл бұрын
@@wilburforce8046 he has not he said nilou is a strong unit but niche & he doesn't like that type of characters as per cyno he literally plays him & at the time zajef didn't have baizhu for him to say cyno was great às per wanderer he recently mentioned it in his stream that CA is better if u only have c0 & no bis weapon but if u have them then NA is better than CA Stop these half knowledge things u say about ppl dude if u don't know about something or someone u better not speak ill of it 🙂
@wilburforce8046
Жыл бұрын
@@rax6667 Wowie way to cherry-pick and strawman. The problem with Nilou is that he’s biased af and lies about how good her team comps are without Nahida. Additionally she’s really not niche because dendro go brrr and you can apply her to any abyss with 2 aoe and 1 ST and clear blindfolded. All of his comfort rhetoric goes out the window with Nilou which makes him biased since she would ideally fit the bill. He just doesn’t like her and compromises is own TC. The worst instance was when he called any decent Nilou clear “extremely high investment” when it was mainly c0 r0 clips with pretty brain dead rotations. He even cherry picked clips with key to try to prove she’s dog water at low investment which is just disingenuous. He got Cyno wrong not in the baizhu sense but in the sense that he completely ignored quickbloom as a comp, called it cope, and according to Cyno mains he miscalced the hell out of Cyno’s damage. Obviously Cyno wasn’t gonna have great pull value or anything but Zajef still just misrepresented the basics of Cyno as seen in this channels response to him. And have you watched Zajef on wanderer recently? He called bell ass, laughed at it, and said charge attacks are the way to go without elaborating. I don’t care what he does on stream if it doesn’t make it to the KZitem guides. And I can say whatever I want I watch Zajef all the time, and even if I didn’t, who are you to restrict someone’s opinion. Actual clown behavior.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Zajef says a lot of incorrect things
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention it in the video, but: all of my calcs shown in the video are done with triple crowns on all units and 5 stars at c0 with r1 of their best 5 star weapon. Substats are done under KQMS. “The Predator and the Prey” team is Tighnari Yae Fischl Kazuha. I call it that as a joke about how his previous VA was a weirdo. Also my Hu Tao calc assumes you have her above 50% HP 1/3 of the time because having full uptime in sun 50% HP is literally impossible (especially if using a shielder and the HT team calced has Zhongli)
@mythesque7714
Жыл бұрын
great points! i'm really excited for your full wanderer guide and to learn more in-depth info about his combos and other tips and tricks, especially about playing shieldless, as i'm not the most mechanically skilled player, but i'd love to get to a point where i could try slotting in yun jin instead of thoma. not sure if you're planning on going for his cons/weapon but good luck on your pulls if you are!! i'm planning on c6-ing him (currently c3) but the donut is causing me pain... wish i'd pulled when it was paired with redhorn lol praying his next rerun has a better weapon banner 🙏 thanks for sharing your perspective, it's refreshing amidst all the doomposting haha
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m definitely getting C2 on rerun this patch. I wanted to get his weapon too but k not risking getting donut. I want to eventually c6 him but with Fontaine coming up, and me being a Welkin only player, it might be smart for me to just get c2 for now then after all the hype Fontaine characters are out, go for more wanderer cons on his second rerun
@simonditomasso9868
Жыл бұрын
I now have c6 faruzan and my xiao was getting consistently faster clears than wanderer this abyss, he is on PJWS with an atk goblet 2pc2pc and wanderer is on skyward atlas 4pc DPC it’s just that his aoe is so much worse than xiao’s that his “theoretical dmg” just doesn’t connect
@wolfwoof2000
Жыл бұрын
If someone would pull at c0 r0, Faruzan c0, no Zhongli I would say he is hard to use in abyss. I just go hyperbloom or international to do the job. But in over world I can't use another character than Wanderer. Abyss is like 5% of gameplay anyway. I wish my Wanderer could be good enough to clear abyss 12 36 stars one day, but for now I'm comfortable using him for over world. I kinda wish Faruzan c6 was a 5 stars limited character lol like Shenhe. My luck is terrible for 4 stars cons.
@Fielith
Жыл бұрын
lessgo wanderer rerun
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
I will go over different ways to use him in Abyss without using Faruzan. It’s never going to be as strong as with c6 faruzan but he has plenty of teams that are good enough to get the job done. But, hopefully you get her c6 on rerun and don’t need those teams!
@rax6667
Жыл бұрын
C4 is a bait for faruzan like it doesn't work without c6 if ur going for con's I highly recommend to go all out for c6
@ryzhik9608
Жыл бұрын
3:35 I got wanderer from his first banner and never in any single abyss he was “dominating”. Idk what’s up with yours, mine is at C0 with C3 Faruzan lvl 80 with 8 talents, and typically this is enough for other characters I run. But not Wanderer. Without a shield he gets curb stomped in any chamber I try him on, and his damage consistency leaves me unimpressed. I do want him to work properly, because I spent to get him, and outside of upgrading his talents I have no clue how to make him better. Not rolling for cons and weapons, cuz that will break the whole point.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
Please level his talents. Wanderer is a Hypercarry. You are supposed to commit to building him. You are leaving ALOT of damage on the table by being at 8/8/8. At minimum get him to. 10/9/9. Also are you using his set DPC and do you have good artifacts for it? What weapon are you using? What team are you using? How are you rotating? Also not wanting to get his constellations is fine but you should really make it a goal to get faruzan to c6 eventually
@ryzhik9608
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir He is in 2p2p bc I just don’t get good pieces no matter what. That’s something I can’t influence at all. But this means I get to have 80/220 wanderer with R5 widsith. I tried mane teams like Wanderer C6Yunjin, C3 Faruzan and C5 Bennett, then I kicked Yunjin to replace her with Xiangling/Thoma, and the results were bad still, then I got rid of pyro and placed Yelan instead, didn’t get much better until I made a dps Kazuha that cleared for wanderer. I have no idea why 7 7 7 Kazuha can, but Wanderer 8 8 8 can’t. Usually I setup and then press everything on Wanderer 2NACA, used burst lastly before his E ends, but I got an advice to do the burst before E, so I did it too. No significant damage upgrade. I know I want C6 Faruzan, but I’m close to pity and I don’t want any of the 5*. I will be doing 30 pulls just for Faruzan (and will not get any, check), and then I see if I give up on him or not
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@ryzhik9608 yeah this is just an issue of your build being really really bad. Do you at least have a 4piece Shimenawas or 4pc Echoes (only if you have low ping)? Those would be way better than 2 piece 2 piece. Or if you pair him with a strong sub dps like Xiangling Yelan fischl etc. then even 4pc VV wil be way better than 2pc 2pc (just make sure you run attack damage crit, not EM build on Wanderer). And as I mentioned Wanderer gets a lot more damage from his talent upgrades. It’s very important that you at least get him to 10/9/9. And some team ideas you can try: wanderer fischl xingqiu/Yelan bennett, wanderer fischl beidou bennett (get at least 230 ER on Beidou). Wanderer Zhongli Yun Jin bennett/Mika/faruzan. Wanderer Bennett Xingqiu Yelan. Wanderer Xiangling Bennett XQ. Wanderer Bennett Layla Kazuha (only for AoE scenarios which need a grouper)
@ryzhik9608
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir thank you for suggesting. I’m now done working with Eula so maybe in a week I will give him a crown. It’s insane how you say 80/220 is a bad build tho. No other 5* dps is that needy it’s insane. I just hope I won’t regret it later then.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@ryzhik9608 no its not that your substats are bad, its that missing a 4 piece bonus on Wanderer is massive. If you had those stats with a good 4 piece set then your artifact build would be good
@tirxy
Жыл бұрын
wait you said hes top 2 dps who is he competing with here
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
My opinion is the two best dps in the game are Wanderer and Alhaitham. But if we want to take speedruns into account then he blows Haitham out the water
@tirxy
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir i thought thats what you meant but is alhaitham really that good in terms of his own personal damage because if you run quickbloom a fair amount of the damage is not from him and if you run spread yae and nahida deal a lot of damage there so who are the two or three units with the most personal damage
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@tirxy oh in terms of personal damage? Wanderers personal damage is signifcantly higher than Alhaithams. Units with the highest personal damage per rotation based on my calcs is: 1. Wanderer 2. Xiao. 3 Cyno. Xiao can do more than Wanderer if he is getting a lot of collision plunges, and Cyno can do more if you extend his field time to 4 Endseer instead of 3
@tirxy
Жыл бұрын
@@GxGNoir i think alhaitham is the best on field driver then no since i feel like the term dps should only be used for hypercarries i have xiao wanderer and cyno but since i dont have nahida yelan or baizhu my cyno isnt that good and imo wanderer feels smoother to play than xiao
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
@@tirxy yeah thats fair. If we are talking specifically about Hypercarries then I think Wanderer is the best by far
@leecian4549
Жыл бұрын
as scara main i will give you a tip don't move like left right because you will drain you skill stamina faster
@shimalding
Жыл бұрын
Moving does not consume additional kuugoryoku points. There is a constant drain of points and you only pay additional pts for ascending or dashing without a4.
@GxGNoir
Жыл бұрын
That’s false. Moving doesn’t consume his stamina unless you dash/sprint
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