The whole "rebranding" of Punchout was not due to the problems of Mike Tyson... The likeness license ran out... It would have cost Nintendo more money to renew the license since Tyson was the undisputed heavyweight champion...
@ThunderFist1978
Ай бұрын
Actually, Tyson was no longer champion, and that did have a lot to do with their decision. The other big factor was that Tyson’s licensing fee had jumped significantly since 1987, and Nintendo just wasn’t willing to pay the higher price for the former champion of the world.
@timothylewis2527
Ай бұрын
I came here to say the same thing. You guys nailed it!
@autobotjazz1972
Ай бұрын
True but those issues certainly did not help Tyson.
@jwalton117
Ай бұрын
Yeah I got this far in the video and a had to bail. Can’t stand it when someone releases a video but doesn’t bother to make sure they have the facts straight. Like why should I listen to you , you’ll say anything to get views without putting in work.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
Ай бұрын
Picture playing that thinking Your gonna fight Iron Mike to see A white guy in his place?😂 Who's this mofo where's Mike? Guess I got the wrong version.
@timothylewis2527
Ай бұрын
I was expecting Punch Out's censorship moment to be when they changed "Vodka Drunkenski" to "Soda Popenski".
@tails230
Ай бұрын
With Friday the 13th, I think the more harsh Game Over is when it tells you "Jason has killed all the Children. Game Over."
@ThunderFist1978
Ай бұрын
@@tails230 Yeah, the fact that Jason was killing children, something he never did in the movies, was the most gruesome thing about the game.
@williamcrowe2576
Ай бұрын
Of course one can't talk about Friday the 13th NES without giving some thought to the Angry Video Game Nerd.
@SNEStalgia
Ай бұрын
The AVGN had nothing to do with the controversy
@williamcrowe2576
Ай бұрын
@@SNEStalgia I know that, I'm just saying he hated the game.
@joshuariddensdale2126
Ай бұрын
Contrary to popular belief, Punchout was not re-released without Tyson due to his legal troubles. In 1990, he lost his title to Buster Douglas, and Nintendo allowed the license to expire because they no longer viewed him as "unbeatable".
@ThunderFist1978
Ай бұрын
@@joshuariddensdale2126 It wasn’t just that. It was also the fact that renewing the license was going to be significantly more expensive, and they weren’t willing to pay the higher price, especially since, like you said, Tyson was no longer undefeated.
@tardiscommand1812
27 күн бұрын
Not even Mike Tyson could beat the NES Mike Tyson.
@VRNocturne
Ай бұрын
Even "back in the day" there were games people thought were too "dark" or "too difficult" or whatever. The more things change; the more they stay the same. Light-hearted tone? Maybe for the Mario games and the early NES games. The stories on the RPGs alone at the time was anything but "light-hearted".
@atalleywak
Ай бұрын
I was the only one of my friends who finished "Bionic Commando" and saw the animation of the very Hitler-esque villain's face literally explode in gore. They didn't believe me, so i had to prove it at one of our many Friday night pizza and video games nights. I remember some parents being shocked when this got out. It was a harder game, so not often seen by young kids. Still pretty cool.
@waylonoconner9121
Ай бұрын
Friday the 13th suffers only from some convoluted rules. Once you figure that out its a great game.
@MediumQuality
Ай бұрын
Great video. I remember the first time I saw Friday the 13th for NES. It was too scary for me. In retrospect, it is a very eerie game.
@SNEStalgia
Ай бұрын
I don't think I ever remember seeing Friday the 13th, the game, when I was a kid. I didn't start seeing it until the AVGN did a video on it, and I agree it can be very unsettling. Thanks for watching!
@kingkull77
Ай бұрын
It will always be Mike Tyson's Punchout to me.
@phil-hunt
Ай бұрын
Golgo 13 is a favorite of mine. Maybe my favorite NES game. There was nothing else like it at the time!
@michaelpolcyn5187
13 күн бұрын
Maniac mansion seems fairly tame considering we had leisure suit larry on the computer
@joejacobs3537
14 күн бұрын
Maniac Mansion is one of the greatest games ever...
@jreal5
Ай бұрын
I wish we could go back in time and show the ppl offended by this stuff the games we have now. Theyd prolly have a heart attack
@piotyrholbion
Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the Japanese version of Monster Party never realsed
@SNEStalgia
Ай бұрын
What does that have to do with the game being controversial?
@piotyrholbion
Ай бұрын
@SNEStalgia it was canceled due to being too gory for the Japanese afaik (I suggest fact checking me)
@ThunderFist1978
Ай бұрын
@@piotyrholbion Didn’t they end up saying the blood was actually ketchup?
@MSorge13
Ай бұрын
You can actually find the unreleased, Japanese beta online. The differences are very noticeable, and I can understand why some people thought it wouldn’t fly.
@jonothanthrace1530
Ай бұрын
I feel like for some of these games I need sources for people's opinions of them upon release. Monster Party, for instance, is one of those games that seemed to barely exist until the early 2000s when people started digging through ROM collections and going "hey, this is weird!"
@thesnare100
Ай бұрын
The original idea for the NES nightmare on Elm Street was the player would BE Freddy Krueger, Nintendo Power even said so once, but it got scrapped. The version that did get made wasn't in this list.
@jevogroni4829
Ай бұрын
golgo 13 had serious vibes. i was surprised i beat it
@randallross420
Ай бұрын
Golgo 13 and Fist of the North Star were two of my favs back then
@SeanGrantstormpinball
Ай бұрын
Great video! I remember loving Golgo 13 for its mash-up of different genres of gameplay and its cool anime style art. I also remember that he was "The Man With the Custom M-16"! I loved how he got to have romantic scenes just like James Bond, nothing explicit, but you know he was a player! :). There was a sequel too, but it wasn't as interesting. The simple, yet catchy theme music remains iconic in my mind! Thanks for all of the hard work in putting this thing together, looking forward to checking out the rest of your stuff!
@dangrise6182
Ай бұрын
I enjoyed this video and on the surface these games should have been controversial in their time... and have since gained some notoriety, i.e. considered controversial in retrospect. However, I don't personally remember any backlash with these games back in the day. Are there any sources from the media of the period highlighting any of this controversy? Still though, enjoyed the video.
@HellTantrumbull
23 минут бұрын
I've never heard of anyone back then saying the boxers in Punchout were controversial stereotypes. if anything the boxers were seen as comical with Mac being even more comical because of him being so small and knocking huge men around the ring like he does. at the same time, the only game I saw people whining about back then was Maniac Mansion because of the hamster in the microwave thing but even that whining didn't last long because no one ultimately cared in the end.
@BelieveIt1051
Ай бұрын
Wasn't there something about Soda Popinski in Punch Out? Like in the original version he was Vodka Drunkenski, and he drank vodka but it was changed to soda pop in the American release.
@j.darekpatterson8609
4 күн бұрын
This is a kind of off the Wall suggestion - gyromite. Most people know of this title thanks to AVGN.. but I was one of the unfortunate people who owned the game. If you are not in the know, you played as an old man who got trapped inside a pipe system and the only way to beat the game was to work in tandem with the robot peripheral the game was packaged with The issues with said game and peripheral was that the robot only works correctly about 60% of the time on top of that, the game's difficulty is through the roof and you have to switch discs into the robot's claws in order for it to raise and lower certain pipes within the system so you can progress further. That robot squashed me so many times that I didn't even bother to try and finish the game. It sat on a bookshelf and collected dust until I eventually sold it to a collector. That game -THAT GAME, was my personal Dr Jekyll and Mr hyde.
@kennethmccullah4905
10 күн бұрын
I loved and still love the Friday the 13th NES game. I could never beat it as a kid. I finally beat it 7 years ago when I started playing it again, as a 32 year old man.
@rickykeim2005
Ай бұрын
I started Gaming at 5 Years old on the NES and for context I'm now 38 But I played Punch Out Rather Early. I didn't know who Mike Tyson was and I wasn't even really aware of the sport of Boxing. I didn't even know the Characters in Punch out were Stereotypes I learned that when I got older but that was probably all the way in Middle School when I was more aware of the Various Countries around the Globe. I experienced the Game as a Puzzle Game and I don't think I was affected by the Stereotyping of the Characters. I was always focused on trying to figure out their Pattern to Beat them rather then who they were. I played Friday the 13th at my Uncle's House and at the time I was pretty disappointed with it. I know now that the Game is pretty good but you have to understand what to do and since I almost never read the Manuals as a kid I was completely Lost. I never really got anywhere because even traveling the Map made no sense to me. if you like the Point and click style Gameplay (which I still think doesn't translate well to a Controller) you might like Nightshade. it's fairly well known these Days so you might have heard of it or played it already. but I had a friend that was a few Years older then myself and He brought it over and I watched him play it for a long time. it was the first Game I ever seen with a Reputation system and it had one on one Fighting and Puzzle Solving and Humor. it was a very impressive Game for the Time.
@michaelpolcyn5187
13 күн бұрын
Someone PLEASE PLEASE find any kind of article about people criticizing the punch out stereotypes when the game released. Maybe in the last 5 years theres been some written
@CallieandJordanSquad
Ай бұрын
I can see how Mike Tyson punch out was controversial but man it was such a great game. Late 80’a was a weird point in time as well. Why couldn’t the nes have kids and adult games. It seems it was the initial North American adult parents not actually looking at what kind of entertainment there kids were consuming. They did not want to say no you can’t watch or play that!!!
@ThunderFist1978
Ай бұрын
@@CallieandJordanSquad I almost asked how it was controversial, but then all the stereotypes came to mind. The arcade version of Super Punch-Out!! is even worse with one fighter, though - Soda Popinski’s first appearance is in that game, but his original name was Vodka Drunkenski. Obviously, they couldn’t use that name when the game came home.
@sor3999
Ай бұрын
It's funny that Monster Party would be controversial for "disturbing imagery". IMO it's pretty tame compared to Ninja Gaiden 2 which had scenes that freaked me out as a kid.
@alanfike
Ай бұрын
Mike Tyson's Punchout shows different ethnicities. That isn't offensive. If they were derogatory, that would be offensive. "How dare you call me Great Tiger!!" Some of us look for things to complain about.
@piotyrholbion
Ай бұрын
Soda popinsky was "Vodka Drunkinski" The stereotypes were offensive depending on the character.
@alanfike
Ай бұрын
@@piotyrholbion You're making my point. Did somebody tell you that and you just accepted it? Or maybe you are so offended. Good for you. 👍🏼
@piotyrholbion
Ай бұрын
@@alanfike uhhh its in the arcade version, unlike you .i was born in the 80s and could see it myself.
@alanfike
Ай бұрын
@@piotyrholbion And you're offended by it. Nice!
@MackNifisent
Ай бұрын
A white dude deciding what people of different ethnic backgrounds are, and aren't allowed to be offended by is something we definitely don't see everyday....
@AnsonBeeker
Ай бұрын
Punch Out was not controversial for "ethnic stereotypes." That happened 30 years later when 90 pct of the population went woke due to social engineering. And Mike Tyson signed the deal before he got arrested. And many people including myself did not and still don't feel he was really guilty. The majority of people then and now know Mike got a raw deal.
@JohnnyTheCache
Ай бұрын
when i was a kid, i found Maniac Mansion pretty scary
@Nick-qy3hu
Ай бұрын
The Nintendo version of Friday the 13th is the same as the Commodore 64 version. My Gr. 6 French teacher used to let us play it. 🙂
@thecunninlynguist
8 күн бұрын
i have never ever heard there be any controversies with Monster Party or Friday or any IP that was "R" rated. I actually grew up around that time, and those games were not controversal...at all.
@D-Fens_1632
Ай бұрын
My gripe with Punch Out is that they didn't go with a black guy named Union Cane.
@gardenofmidnight2475
25 күн бұрын
Punch Out, Friday the 13th and Monster Party were all very interesting games! I loved them as a kid & have still played them a handful of times as an adult.
@Nick-qy3hu
Ай бұрын
For controversy, you should check out the description of Birdo in the Super Mario 2 manual ( North American release ). That would NOT fly today. lol
@tomlennox5555
7 күн бұрын
Friday 13th is controversial for me not being able to figure out how to play it 😅
@thetornado
Ай бұрын
What year were you born?? There was literally no controversy about punch out being racist back then. Like none at all. Where are you getting this from??
@HellTantrumbull
19 минут бұрын
He's getting this garbage from morons that came along years later when the internet was starting to really take off with spreading fake news.
@aervaealtonelty9850
4 күн бұрын
Friday the 13th - LJN's best game release. I could not, and still can't, STAND LJN.
@marioyungblood
Ай бұрын
I'm Full Blooded Native (Apache) I really Hope Whomp'Em🏹🏹Doesn't make This List. What about these games Gun Smoke, North and South, Sweet Home, Labyrinth, Nightmare on Elm Street, Zombie Nation, Donkey Kong, all the Mario Games, The Lone Ranger, Splatter House, RAMBO da 1st game to say Damn, Takeshi No Sengoku, Devil World, NARC, and The Punisher that's where Thin Blue Line Came from. These games have something to do with Sterotypes, Racism, Religion, "Vigilante," Decapitation, Drugs, Domestic Violence, Kidnapping, Cursing, Murder, Vivid Dreams, & Witch Craft, These were "8-bits" games. Watching da Newz was more violent. I wish back then "Parents" saw it that way. Instead of hating on it. Now we have DEI, woke, Pride & ESRB Who is worst?? Thanks for your upload #NewSub you Speaks FACTS on your picks👍
@johnlewisbrooks
Ай бұрын
One thing that blows my mind about Friday The 13th is thst Jason actually moves around the map in real time! Ljn was notorious for releasing shit games but this is an unloved child.
@luisreyes1963
15 күн бұрын
If American gamers were disturbed over the Friday The 13th game, just imagine the uproar had Capcom released Sweet Home, based on a gruesome Japanese horror movie.
@HellTantrumbull
20 минут бұрын
No one was disturbed by the game, all of that was just made up internet garbage that came along years later so people can start fake controversies to make money on whatever sites were around at the time.
@seansullivan7928
Ай бұрын
Does anyone disagree with the fact that Sid Vicious Sucks really bad.
@bluefat8096
Ай бұрын
Friday the 13th is not a hard game but it is fun game. Surviving this game is fun. You must strategize and remember what to do in order to beat Jason. The music is done very well in this 8-Bit hardware. It gives a horror atmosphere for the game and the sudden music and sound jump gives the player a sudden scare that makes the heart skip a beat when confronting Jason. The developers were very creative in this game and it is sad that there is some people who become offended. Censorship destroys creativity and fun for the game player. Video games are design to take players to a world were is safe and fun😀
@Gappasaurus
Ай бұрын
5:20 YTMND NSMB 🤣🤣🤣
@pollodiablo36
Ай бұрын
I always loved F13. I had no idea until I was an adult that anybody thought it was a terrible game! 😂😂
@ThunderFist1978
Ай бұрын
Ring King is one that belongs in the controversial pile, due to the between rounds scene. I believe the trainers are aupposed to be putting the cup back into the boxers' shorts, but it looks like something very different is going on...
@joshuagarcia8412
2 күн бұрын
Any one played Rolling Thunder it had a Rape scenario in it
@ryanhegseth8720
17 күн бұрын
Punch out? People are such babies.
@LoneWolfAudio0524
Ай бұрын
I've been trying to remember that first game on your list since I played it at 7 years old. My 7 year old brain has always thought of it as "Ballogo". No wonder I couldn't ever find it. Also, Monster Party made a huge impression on me growing up. It absolutely does not get talked about. I'm curious to see it in its unaltered state. I didn't know it got censored in the west. There was nothing quite like it at the time. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised however.
@Rame2404
Ай бұрын
Ya cant have Friday the 13th on here, and leave Nightmare on Elm Street out of the list!!
@Haywood_Jablomay
Ай бұрын
"Con-tee-ant"
@grantorino2325
Ай бұрын
You didn't mention how Golgo 13 (after he first arrived in Greece) replenished his health by SMOKING CIGARETTES.
@user-pi3oc1xv7b
15 күн бұрын
You should do a video on city connection
@zombee38
Ай бұрын
I didn't care about this because i was 19yo at that time... noticed Golgo 13 mature content and thought that it was awesome 😎
@bountyhunterFett76
Күн бұрын
People are just sensitive
@gmitch1978
Ай бұрын
The author of the video is making all of this up. Nobody cared about any of this content. it wasn’t until Mortal Kombat came out that this stuff got any attention. Cite some sources.
@leec440
Ай бұрын
Hahaha now look at what’s available on Nintendo Switch. I remember playing most of these nes games back in the day.
@StageRight123
4 күн бұрын
I own all the games cib from the first list and all cib except Monster Party from this list.
@jarredkrum9894
Ай бұрын
All made up cuz none of these were controversial lol
@gmitch1978
Ай бұрын
I lived through all this, and owned all these games. Nobody could could have cared less about these things at the time. The author is just finding racy content in NES games and saying it was “controversial”. There were no major complaints from parental groups until Mortal Kombat hit, and political grifters muck raked to find any violence or innuendo in games and then have a big pearl clutching session in congress about it.
@jarredkrum9894
Ай бұрын
Ikr same here. My mom ran a movie/game rental store and there was no controversy till mortal kombat and even then most rental stores would rent those to teens lol i mean til they got a complaint from a parent or something. Lol
@noeditbookreviews
Ай бұрын
What's that outro music? I know I've heard it a million times, but can't remember what it is.
@SNEStalgia
Ай бұрын
Which one? The music that plays at the very end, during the end screen, is the “Staff Roll/End Credits” music from Mario 64. The music that plays during the conclusion, where I’m showing the NES commercials, is called “Wormland” from Super Turrican 2. :)
@noeditbookreviews
Ай бұрын
@@SNEStalgia Mario 64, that's it! Thank you! It was driving me crazy.
@SNEStalgia
Ай бұрын
No problem! Glad to help.
@anthonylakich1727
25 күн бұрын
i had Gol Go 13
@blackAngelProductions
22 күн бұрын
What about sweet home
@ScottPiwinski
Ай бұрын
What about ninja gaiden 2 for NES the part wear Irene gets stabbed in the back by the dark sword of chaos then is pulled out and there is blood on the sword and blood is dripping from the sword 🗡️
@danielwhitehead6576
Ай бұрын
AI?
@NYCQuint
20 күн бұрын
None of these games were controversial at the time. Click bait video.
@janX9
Ай бұрын
Why bleep "Rape"?
@MSorge13
Ай бұрын
Because of KZitem’s policies that threaten demonetization with certain words.
@blueface
Ай бұрын
Another great video!
@SNEStalgia
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@BetoMSea
Ай бұрын
Bro you sound like you're reading straight from a script, try and make it sound more natural
@SNEStalgia
Ай бұрын
I’m trying to work on it. Thanks for the suggestion
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