Well now you know what you’ve gotta do. Characters Who became way stronger AFTER a buff
@mrstudent9125
5 ай бұрын
Mk11 Kano.
@ForeskinTim
5 ай бұрын
Mk11 Kotal
@flipsvstheworld
5 ай бұрын
MKX Mileena and Kitana getting numerous buffs per patch was aids lol
@boltz95
5 ай бұрын
Mkx takeda/kung lao
@goldenhydreigon4727
2 ай бұрын
MK11 Shao Khan
@Azteck9
5 ай бұрын
Scorpion did his job in Injustice. Sold DLC like nuts and then nerfed after the quota was met.
@jaydickson6304
5 ай бұрын
I remember when Scorpion had 4/5 top 8 placements at CEO, but because he didn't land 1st place, it was seen as "See, he isn't that good, what is all the complaining about?"
@i.theworstguys298
5 ай бұрын
same thing happened to diddy kong in ssb4. had nothing but hella high tier placements but most tournaments were won by sheik or rosalina so ppl were convinced he wasn’t broken
@glacierwolf2155
5 ай бұрын
Same thing is happening nowadays with Ramlethal in Strive. Has the tools to win a major tournament, has yet to win one.
@Skkra
5 ай бұрын
Poor Slips, he got robbed of a character haha
@isaacflask
4 ай бұрын
@@i.theworstguys298oh man, diddy kong hoo hah. Such a classic
@WalkBesideMe
5 ай бұрын
Scorpion in the first Injustice has to be the most egregious nerf for sure. One month, broken beyond belief and then a month later, gutted like a fish.
@Postcoital_Clarity
5 ай бұрын
😂
@MegaZeta
4 ай бұрын
Doesn't really surprise me. If I were Time Warner, inaugurating what was clearly intended to be a new series built around TW intellectual property and some sort of multimedia event... and then the Mortal Kombat character becomes all anyone can talk about in word-of-mouth for the new game... I would elbow NRS hard in the ribs. Maybe that happened
@Ecdemaniac
5 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen 1 patch completely slaughter a single character more than that Scorpion patch. That’s the fastest I’ve seen a character flip from top to bottom
@5higuy
5 ай бұрын
I’d say he’s switch tier
@Made187x
5 ай бұрын
@@5higuyterrible quote, don’t talk anymore please
@rayhoyer4829
5 ай бұрын
They gave scorpion the kane treatment.
@rayhoyer4829
4 ай бұрын
@@MaacMaliceMMA yes it is!
@Pikasprey
5 ай бұрын
I actually remember giving Injustice 2 a chance because I thought Deadshot's trailer looked cool. Then I played the game at launch as him, and was hated by everyone until I stopped wanting to play, lol.
@leonardobolivar4403
Ай бұрын
Lol, I literally remember you because of the pfp with the checkboard pattern, hope you keep making cool videos dude
@Pichufan172
5 ай бұрын
Scorpion got the Blizzard treatment
@gavinhazan1415
4 ай бұрын
What a way to describe a downfall I love it
@SyRose901
3 ай бұрын
Or the Valve treatment. Not that Valve has fallen off, but that Valve nerfed TF2 weapons into nearly unusable tiers.
@k2h873
5 ай бұрын
I think MK 1 Sbuzero should've been included in the list 'cause after the release of the game, NRS butchered the character
@nocandoslurms433
5 ай бұрын
I remember what a sad day it was when Supergirl got nerfed. One of the rare instances where I dropped a character because of nerfs.
@Theus_Apollyon
4 ай бұрын
You mean the walking laser nerf?
@nocandoslurms433
4 ай бұрын
@@Theus_Apollyon There was more than that. Her d1 was increased to 9 frames on startup. It's hard to get pressure off you when that's your fastest crouching move. She had another nerf, I can't remember what.
@MILDMONSTER1234
5 ай бұрын
The only other character I’m aware of that’s been gutted as badly as IJ Scorp is probably Sean from Street Fighter 2nd impact going into 3rd Strike
@BonesAnalises
5 ай бұрын
I love how, when they Specify NRS instead of MK, you know Injustice is coming up
@SidneyMosley
5 ай бұрын
I'm here to once again Request Competitive history of Liu Kang
@IWish2500
5 ай бұрын
A little surprised MKX Alien wasn’t mentioned
@glacierwolf2155
5 ай бұрын
Isn't Xenomorph still in top tier after the patches?
@mr.soystein7849
5 ай бұрын
Maybe the nerfs weren't that devastating. Acidic is still solid, but Alien mains usually go for Konjurer nowadays.
@IWish2500
5 ай бұрын
I probably should have specified the Acidic variation. It may not have been the wildest patch, but the drop of Acidic players was wild
@PNDKM
5 ай бұрын
Alien was still good, people mostly dropped alien because alien being broken was the ONLY reason they used the character
@georgesears934
5 ай бұрын
0:58 I'm gonna stop you right there, it's MK11 Geras. He got nerfed EVERY. SINGLE. PATCH. All of them. There is no way there's a character with more nerfs by pure numbers. It's Geras, hands down. And all they were able to do was drop him from +S to +A. He was THAT fundamentally solid and played MK1 that well. And of kourse, who kould forget the nerfs that accidentally buffed him, like the infamous change to sandtrap's KB requirement that allowed you to effectively get it on kommand whenever you wanted rather than it being in your opponent's kontrol? Very fitting for the reanimating strongman!
@leonardobolivar4403
Ай бұрын
Did you watch the part where he says that this is not a top about the most nerfed characters, right? And also, did you watch the part where he says that Geras was being nerfed in every single patch in one way or another?
@CYGAMESCC2
5 ай бұрын
VIDEO GAMES!!!!!!!
@SpikeSpoogle
5 ай бұрын
YES SIR!!!!!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯
@snack_bar2474
5 ай бұрын
yeah?
@ShabungalooTheStinky
5 ай бұрын
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@RyanStansberry
5 ай бұрын
*_ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!_*
@WhereThereIsSmoke
5 ай бұрын
Good statment
@sammythijs8641
4 ай бұрын
Geras is an interesting one though. Even after the nerfs he received, till this day he plays MK11 very well. Yes, he was used a lot less in tournament but he’s still solid. Btw, I really liked this video man👍🏻 I’d love to see a video about most significant buffs in Mortal kombat games. Doesn’t mean that characters shot up to top tier but they were helped drastically. Just some ideas top of my head: Injustice1 Bane venom buff reworked to add armor to specials, which would carry over to Inj2 Commando Kano’s new 22 string and b14 MB launcher in MKX . MKX Takeda gaps in his mid strings reworked MkX Jason dmg buff reworked to break armor. Mk11 Kollektor changes to 44 string Mk11 Kano changes to f12b2 string, changes to chemical burn Mk11 Noobs low slide buff
@KermaFrost
5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Jason and Tremor just chilling seeing the nerf chaos
@DrOmnipotent
5 ай бұрын
Geras also was the only character who has his MOVEMENT nerfed. Ouch. 😂 Great video ggs
@nikehaddhtv1546
5 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the Mk1 Subzero
@BallinBoy008
5 ай бұрын
You guys are always posting interesting MK content
@djkillermemestar1265
4 ай бұрын
Mk11 sonya also was sad. She was so cool in the early days then died after early nerfs, even took life away from her and never gave it back. And yeah they hit supergirl pretty hard.
@LeviB69
5 ай бұрын
Love looking at these had no idea during mkx and games b4 and the changes
@robdavideogamer4119
4 ай бұрын
The idea that a game had a competitive scene but no one knew what frame data was, where as all the other popular fighting games have been talking about frames for god knows how long is kind of hilarious.
@theMoseph23
5 ай бұрын
Love seeing Injustice getting some attention! Keep up the great videos!
@franklinfiqueroa6883
5 ай бұрын
You forgot about Sonya in MK11
@zacharywidmoyer4954
5 ай бұрын
I think Kung Jin Bojutsu would’ve been worth mentioning. He went from literally number one in MKX (half the Fatal 8 tournament was bojutsu Kung Jin) to bottom 5 in the game.
@neoconnor4395
5 ай бұрын
I almost forgot how beast-like Geras was in MK11..
@mappybc6097
5 ай бұрын
If different versions of the same game count, I would argue the nerfs to Sean Matsuda from SF3 Second Impact to Third Strike give Injustice Scorpion's title of most nerfed character in fighting game history a run for its money. Grabted, he didn't receive as many nerfs as Scorpion did, but the ones he got were way worse than anything NRS did to Hanzo. I'm talking bs on the level of removing the ability to combo from one of his specials, making a projectile super's start up so slow that opponents could react to the screen freeze and flash effect with a jump in and punish it, and, I'm not making this up, having one of his specials be unsafe *on hit.* Some people who only played Third Strike used to think he was designed as a joke or meme character, when it fact he had been the undisputed best character in the game a version prior.
@lordflashheart3741
4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he wasn't the best character in 2I. Top 3, sure, but I would argue Akuma was even more ridiculous.
@mappybc6097
4 ай бұрын
@lordflashheart3741 It was always up for debate. If you look up different tier lists for the game, it's either Akuma, Ibuki, or Sean at the top. Imo Sean deserves #1 simply because Akuma has the health of a mosquito, and Ibuki takes actual skill to play.
@smithly-fgc
2 ай бұрын
i mained deadshot in injustice 2 and picked up supergirl because that matchup was so bad and figured i'd fare better in a mirror, then deadshot got nerfed about 80 times and i was like "i guess i'll just play supergirl now" but i always missed deadshot and was sad that he got decimated
@ryanrowe1975
5 ай бұрын
Adjustments can be changed to appearing with Kano and characters to appearing at the tournament appearance
@marsbitrona5920
5 ай бұрын
This one must have required some serious research to get specifics on patches and community reactions going back over ten years. Great video!
@hotzemusic
4 ай бұрын
Somewhere, Tom Brady is seething over the overlooked day 1 patch that killed sub zero's B2 reset in Mk9
@raybaann
5 ай бұрын
Flame Fist Liu Kang with armored EX FBF4 and shaolin flame cancel without meter 🤤 good old times
@isaacflask
4 ай бұрын
It’s crazy too that flame fist is like top 3-5
@mrstudent9125
5 ай бұрын
I hope to see competitive history of Shang Tsung some day.
@boredomkiller99
5 ай бұрын
Let's not forget deadshot also had really stupid mix ups that could lead to combos. A common complaint was he had too good of a close range game for how good his zoning was.
@coytheboyy
5 ай бұрын
Can’t believe they nerfed IJ Scorpion and Deadahot but left Martian Manhunter and Starfire the same
@Jean_Pierre_Wehry
5 ай бұрын
MK9 Kano brings back memories. I was a Kano main and he was an absolute beast online. MK9 was something special. My online Ranked record was like 700/150
@jayberry4988
4 ай бұрын
I’ve never zoned with deadshot I’m a rush down type of player and that hasn’t failed with him
@LordDioBrandoTheWorld
4 ай бұрын
Shao Kahn has FIVE L’s throughout just MK1 alone absolutely ridiculous
@Skkra
5 ай бұрын
Good old Somberness. The legend. I miss MK9.
@kylenguyen7371
5 ай бұрын
8:53 The Nerf-ening!
@saloz9483
5 ай бұрын
To be honest 1:13 is the reason why the tourney scene can be kind of repetitive since you usually see the same characters over and over again. Its rare if anyone picks a character they actually like.
@feckernever8flakes
5 ай бұрын
I remember when the Geras nerfs happened and a lot of people regarded them as buffs since they gave him a lot of Krushing Blows at the end of combos. I didn't realize that the competitive community actually regarded them as the nerfs they really were
@Hndshks
5 ай бұрын
Wasn't there an MKX major where something like 6 players out of the top 8 were using Kobu-jutsu Tanya? Then one patch later we almost never saw Tanya again.
@minisquirtle9702
5 ай бұрын
As a casual Deadshot player, i just think he has some cool looking combos and like his character here. And not just zoning i mean like actual combos he and Dr Fate are just stylish for no reason
@JustinKeithD
5 ай бұрын
I understand that money is on the line and to NOT pick these characters when your opponents will be is putting yourself at a disadvantage... But it just goes to show that people will always flock to the most braindead, overpowered character. The ONLY time I accept the strength of a character is when they are difficult to use. I remember being so pissed off at all the Kabals in MK9 that I decided to try him out. He was HARD to use. I kinda shut my mouth after that.
@DzungLongVN
5 ай бұрын
Injustice Scorpion was basically erased out of existence lol
@damiangallo4185
5 ай бұрын
Cryomancer sub in mkx?
@djkillermemestar1265
4 ай бұрын
I thought Mk11 Sheeva would be here. They murdered that character
@Jeff-jz5sf
5 ай бұрын
The biggest nerf though bar none is Shinnok. Going from literally untouchable to…..yeah…
@twinodoom
5 ай бұрын
15:18 MK1 Sub Zero's felt that
@zadornov128
5 ай бұрын
Geras remained broken despite all the ‘nerfes’. His broken d1 was free to mash against almost all the characters, its 6 frames startup was the issue, not the recovery frames in any way
@CaraDeMossoro
5 ай бұрын
Crazy Kano ball
@sonjawusky8613
5 ай бұрын
I don’t think I ever saw such a brutal fall from grace quite like what happened to Injustice Scorpion. I get he was strong early on, but I feel they went a bit far.
@arrownoir
5 ай бұрын
Nerfs create nostalgia.
@silversnakekp
5 ай бұрын
i know a character who was horribly nerfed, not gameplay/damage output-wise, but more so designwise
@spawnytheistic
5 ай бұрын
Deadshot and Superman in injustice 2 genuinely made me question nrs’ ability to make a game. I genuinely adore injustice 2 but I can’t understand how they thought the zoning in the game was acceptable. Injustice 2 was the first fighting game I ever went “pro” with. I won an injustice gods among us tournament, I have a lot of love for the franchise but the zoning is unforgivable bruh.
@Shootatsite
5 ай бұрын
hmm I feel like Johnny or Jacqui is gonna be mentioned
@luminary6818
5 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched yet but no way Demolition Sonya isn’t on here
@tdummy1094
5 ай бұрын
Great vid
@blesstv8994
5 ай бұрын
Nice vid Ketchup
@sobhanamini3776
5 ай бұрын
I would say mkx tanya and Quan chi also had many many nerfs that were huge
@Finnjah
5 ай бұрын
what song is this at 0:13
@adre2k2
4 ай бұрын
White Field from Fighting EX Layer
@wizardgamehubz
5 ай бұрын
Great NRS signatures 👌 👏 this title tells me all the fun characters NRS has killed
@augustoruschel6295
5 ай бұрын
what about sheeva’s stomp nerf in mk11? 😭😭 no one has ever used her again after that
@insertnamehere7228
Ай бұрын
Mk1 peacemaker should make it in here lmao.
@olumideadanri557
5 ай бұрын
I'm comment number 11 and like number 101 so please answer this question for me. What the background music track in this video? It's hitting me hard in the nostalgic part of my brain but I can't place it beyond a ps1 ps2 era game, maybe Marvel vs Capcom or something. Anyways, Please tell me. Huge fan of your channel and FGC tournament commentry .
@PNDKM
5 ай бұрын
Street Fighter EX2 Plus
@olumideadanri557
5 ай бұрын
Guess I'm gonna play it now. Thank You@@PNDKM
@HyperFoxx
5 ай бұрын
Mk11 Geras was so badass
@megazerox_gaming
5 ай бұрын
As soon as you mentioned deadshot i nearly choked on my soup!!!😨
@NetherDeity
5 ай бұрын
Damn,still remember how they cut my Scorpion...poor Hanzo
@irlredline7965
Ай бұрын
Peacemaker can join this list now
@DatBoyJames
Ай бұрын
I was just thinking that lol
@fancyhermit7
5 ай бұрын
I think characters get heavily nerfed when their strengths are showcased in either tournaments or online matches
@GITW_33
5 ай бұрын
Damn feels good to be early
@Dunbeezytv
5 ай бұрын
TO THIS DAY!!!!
@benjwillo
5 ай бұрын
Erron black in both games he has been is has been abused by nerfs compared to his day 1 releases.
@austinely8697
5 ай бұрын
Competitive history of Scorpion!
@rushiuppu4180
4 ай бұрын
whats the music playing during the kano segment?
@ainzooalgown3607
5 ай бұрын
Well, Geras did fell from grace, but like from Top 3 to Top 5?
@PNDKM
5 ай бұрын
Geras was in no top 5's by the end of MK11.
@RealityRick
4 ай бұрын
Mk9 kano ABSOLUTELY deserved to be nerfed even harder than that
@mrstudent9125
5 ай бұрын
Mk11 Sheeva comes to mind
@bknowles98
5 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the point of nerfing or balancing or buffing a video game / specifically a fighting video game character. At zooms point just go have a real life fight. Fights aren’t inherently fair.
@IMachineHeadI
5 ай бұрын
Didn’t people boo a tournament player because they chose Deadshot? Or am I mistaking Deadshot for a different character
@KoryRedd
4 ай бұрын
HM : Inj2 Aquaman
@oh_gosh
5 ай бұрын
So, I'm ignorant here, but when he says Scorpion was hard to block, did Injustice not function on block button? Couldn't you just hold high block and auto turn around?
@PNDKM
5 ай бұрын
Injustice was a back to block game. You could block by holding neutral crouch as well, but scorpion had a lot of instant overheads pre-patch, so you had to block either side.
@Jago-pl7op
5 ай бұрын
At least some of them are still fun to use in single player.
@DemonKingHiei
5 ай бұрын
Can you do Amazing Buffs next?
@santh9115
5 ай бұрын
Was honestly expecting Acidic Alien for MKX, best character in the game became instantly irrelevant after 1 patch
@SwipeGuy
4 ай бұрын
I play new and old fighting games on my channel. I really have enjoyed playing mk9 recently it's more fun than mk1 in my opinion :)
@treezanyone
5 ай бұрын
Dealing with Inj2 the 1st couole months was stressful 😅
@angelromocortes5181
5 ай бұрын
I imagined mk11 Sonya would've been in the video
@mrstudent9125
5 ай бұрын
Are there dramatic buffs?
@coreypendergrass5355
5 ай бұрын
Kan y'all please make a Kompetitive History of Scorpion 🦂? 👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
@darkseid9391
5 ай бұрын
Would of loved to see Freddy Kruger
@kaiserbts8007
5 ай бұрын
They hit the Quan :(
@knodeway1826
5 ай бұрын
Before watching I’m gonna guess Acidic alien Inj 2 deadshot
I miss MKX. I wish it still had side events, such an insane game.
@alexstark7620
5 ай бұрын
Too broken kombos
@kzakulenga5138
5 ай бұрын
No MK1 gameplay??????? Shocking honestly
@PNDKM
5 ай бұрын
Nobody has been nerfed like that yet.
@sobhanamini3776
5 ай бұрын
I disagree on triborg،by the end of it all varations are still at least mid tier if not top tier
@horobi-san4427
5 ай бұрын
That's kind of the point, tbh They didn't get nerfed to oblivion, but since Sektor and Smoke are undoubtedly top 5 characters in the final version, the only reason someone would pick Cyrax or Sub is if they really like those characters
@sobhanamini3776
5 ай бұрын
@@horobi-san4427 that kinda happened to Quan and tanya too،only ppl who liked them play them after the nerfes And maybe other characters
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