Just seeing the title, before watching the video, I was like "is he out of his mind??" But then, 1) I didn't know there was a 2017 and 2018 versions of the Flashback 2) I had no idea the 2018 had a better emulator 3) I had no idea AtGames cared about improving his products 4) I had no idea the 2018 Flashback read SD cards Bottom line, EXCELLENT video! I truly learned something!
@AP101083
5 жыл бұрын
We have made a video about it almost 6 months ago 2017 vs 2018 version (check wicked gamer & Collector)
@gamegab7271
4 жыл бұрын
Marceau Blétard If you look around on eBay or Amazon, you can find great deals on Genesis cartridges as well! This was the best model that AtGames put out (as well as the last), but after much trial and error, they finally gave us the Sega Genesis console that we deserved! Now if they could just include a cartridge slot on the Atari Flashback, it would be pure heaven!
@docsavage4921
4 жыл бұрын
It seems the 2018 Legends has the same benefits. Same good Genesis emulation, same SD card benefits. Only negative is battery saving emulation does not work at all. Which can only have been done on purpose, I'd imagine, so there's still a reason to buy the Genesis Flashback over simply loading up a Steam Genesis library on Legends or some other Flashback, as I have done.
@DanielGuzman83
4 жыл бұрын
Me neither. I bought the 2017 but never used it because I heard about the Sega Genesis mini. I hacked my mini to add more games and looks good next to my nintendos and PlayStation minis.
@darkbionic1044
3 жыл бұрын
Me neither didn’t know
@nintendomario7224
5 жыл бұрын
My five reasons are: 1. It can play original cartridges 2. You can plug in the original controllers 3. It has a very intuitive menu 4. You can add more games from SD card with the firmware update 5. And with other firmware updates you can: -Add more platforms like Sega CD or 32X -Modify the Built-in games cataloge
@kinorai
5 жыл бұрын
Woah there cowboy!!! Is it an OFFICIAL firmware update that let's you play 32x ans CD games, or... A shady update? Either way, I WANT!
@nintendomario7224
5 жыл бұрын
It isn't an official firmware, i found it on GBA Temp like "custom firmware for sega flashback 2018?
@BoozeAholic
4 жыл бұрын
Being able to play original cartridges is a big plus for me. I want to actually add more games to play on these systems, rather than being stuck with the default library.
@willpowerrazorblade6436
4 жыл бұрын
@ Nintendo Mario wait what?!!!? No way for real dude? Did you say SEGA CD and 32X if you're telling the truth I'm getting it asap!!!!!
@MC4K
4 жыл бұрын
It’s still lower quality than the mini, plus the mini can do all of the things the flash back could do, except for cartridges. Plus it has better native emulation.
@samfrito
5 жыл бұрын
2018 was the magic year for Atgames. Sadly, most retro gamers are all done with them. '18 model is their best yet and with cart slot and sd card slot, save states and rewind we are looking at the best of all worlds for Genesis fans with a library. Not 100% perfect emulation but solid enough to make me happy.
@docsavage4921
4 жыл бұрын
Just avoid the latest firmware updates for 2018 Legends, from browsing on various arcade forums it does nothing for emulation, and actually removes certain features. Btw, rewinding works on Genesis roms. Us average gamers can finally see the end of Sonic.
@johnleone1996
11 ай бұрын
Shit emulation
@marioboi323
2 ай бұрын
Would playing on a cartridge play closer to the original?
@samfrito
2 ай бұрын
@@marioboi323not that I've noticed. I think since the Atgames is a system on a chip it's flaws are inherent (some sound, some strange graphics) but all games on the system play pretty well. I've had a few cartridges that won't boot without a second or third try (Skeleton Crew from Core).
@RyGuy0520
4 жыл бұрын
For those still looking for the 2018 Genesis flashback I seen them at Kohl's and OfficeMax stores they were also at GameStop and Target but most don't have any left
@StickersByJennifer
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just bought one online at Kohls. It's ready for curbside pickup right now. So excited!
@salvsky5331
4 жыл бұрын
I got it in my country for 25 bucks
@mattmaverick703
Жыл бұрын
Yes bro you got me one from Kohls. The 2018 is WAY WAY BETTER than the crappy 2017 version. The 2018 actually looks like a real Genesis
@kinorai
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! Fair comparison and nice update to your"old" video!!!
@darkink1915
4 жыл бұрын
I already thought the 2018 model was better because of the cartridge slot, sd card slot, wider game variety, and wireless controllers. I gotta say, atgames really improved
@darkink1915
4 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if they did something like this for, say, the GameCube?!? Now that would be something to write home about, I could finally play sonic adventure dx 😂
@markracer3281
5 жыл бұрын
Most excellent review. I was recently in my local Target and found the Sega Genesis Flashback 2018 on clearance for $39.99 each. They only had two in stock. I purchased both units and I'm quite pleased after adding the firmware update to allow SD card access. Now I have hundreds of Genesis games to choose from. The best part is, emulation including audio is spot on!!! The 2.4 ghz controllers are very responsive as well. Definitely worth picking up even at the full retail price of $79.99.
@FishBeeProductions
5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow that's a really good deal!
@ryanchristensen1799
4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Racer Any chance you would be willing to sell your second one for $60?
@markracer3281
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, Check your local GameStop. My area still has them in stock for $69.95. Happy gaming dude!!!
@ryanchristensen1799
4 жыл бұрын
@@markracer3281 thanks for the heads up!
@KISSFan1977
5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found one of the 2018 models! Had to come give you a like for the vid!
@eternalhalloween1
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the AT GAMES one myself. (A) The AT GAMES one has a cartridge slot. So you can play old SEGA GENESIS games from back in the day if you still have them. (B) The new SG MINI gives you 'Street Fighter' II. But you can't play it. Because you only get two 3 BUTTON controllers. (C) The AT GAMES version gives you two 6 BUTTON controllers. So all the games are playable. And any SG game you find on amazon should be playable.
@arkdov
5 жыл бұрын
Actually I have both the flashback and mini. I honestly prefer the Atgames Flashback over the mini due to better controller response and game list.
@DigiPen92
4 жыл бұрын
arkdov Wait, is the 2018 Version Wireless Controllers actually work?
@arkdov
4 жыл бұрын
@@DigiPen92 Yes the controllers work fine with no input lag and are very responsive IMO.
@louistournas120
4 жыл бұрын
@@arkdov : Well, actually there is still an input lag. It is about 0.5 sec for the player to move and the sound to play. Oddly enough, it looks like the input lag is almost 0 sec on mastersystem games. As for games on SD card (I have played maybe 10 of them), the input lag is 0.5 sec but the sound lag is like 1 sec. That's been my experience. I would still choose the Atgames version over the mini since you can put many ROM games on a SD card. That's what I wanted for the NES mini.
@louistournas120
4 жыл бұрын
@@DigiPen92 : Well, actually there is still an input lag. It is about 0.5 sec for the player to move and the sound to play. Oddly enough, it looks like the input lag is almost 0 sec on mastersystem games. As for games on SD card (I have played maybe 10 of them), the input lag is 0.5 sec but the sound lag is like 1 sec. That's been my experience. I would still choose the Atgames version over the mini since you can put many ROM games on a SD card. That's what I wanted for the NES mini.
@ColecionadoresDeHominho
4 жыл бұрын
*2018 atgames version is worth a lot either to collect or to play*
@johnnyrenkiewicz2789
2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful review. No one ever mentions save states of cartridges! Thanks a ton!
@fishy7901
4 жыл бұрын
The 2018 Flashback for me is absolutely perfect, I have every game installed on an SD card with cover art for every game INCLUDING Sega CD games, it takes original cartridges and original controllers. Why anyone would pay £300 for the everdrive when you can get this is beyond me, emulation is great for everything.
@fishy7901
4 жыл бұрын
@sicilyvito mini can't take origjnal carts.
@fishy7901
4 жыл бұрын
Or original controllers
@fishy7901
4 жыл бұрын
@sicilyvito not when you're a collector and like to use the original carts on modern tvs silly.
@STAXONDECK1
2 жыл бұрын
Wait if u add Sega Cd roms it also plays those?
@fishy7901
2 жыл бұрын
@@STAXONDECK1 It does indeed, you have a choice of either setting the FW to play 32x or Mega CD but not both, so I just stuck the entire mega cd catalogue on there. Took a while to out the cover art on but it was worth it.
@jaxsonsmith8261
5 жыл бұрын
Those flashbacks looks amazing
@MisterPete3
5 жыл бұрын
Really nice for the price
@yoshizagu
3 жыл бұрын
Was very helpful and I gave a thumbs up thanks Guy
@jameskelvin6720
4 жыл бұрын
Great review!!!
@HeroTheHedgehog999
4 жыл бұрын
You know...2018 was a AMAZING IMPROVEMENT!!!!!!
@LeoA2600
5 жыл бұрын
Worth pointing out that the Legends Flashback system from AtGames last year does almost all this and so much more. It has the same guts, the same Genesis Plus GX open source emulator, and the same Genesis controller ports. But you also get a ton of arcade games and some NES games built into the system. And via a firmware upgrade, you're able to load up additional arcade roms, NES and Genesis roms (And SG-1000, SMS, and Game Gear), and even Sega CD iso's. No 32X support though (Genesis Plus GX doesn't support it) and Virtua Racing runs slow. The only differences besides the cosmetic casing (Which is cheaper looking with the Legends Flashback, but also much smaller) are the substitution of wired Genesis controllers instead of the wireless controllers and the omission of the Genesis cartridge slot. So unless original cartridge support is crucial, I suggest instead buying the Legends Flashback. A sequel to that is just now hitting stores and even adds in some Colecovision and SNES games. If it retains all of the capabilities of last year's system and includes the ability to play Colecovision and SNES roms off SD card as well, even better.
@FishBeeProductions
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@samfrito
5 жыл бұрын
Truly Atgames is keeping some tricks up their sleeves. Kinda glad to hear they didnt throw in the towel. I can appreciate their 2018 Genesis Flashback, the basic Genesis flashbacks have been fun too.
@robertmcmillan3638
5 жыл бұрын
We in the UK are STILL waiting for the Legends console to be released. Probably won't happen over here as its all about North American sales ☹️.
@robertmcmillan3638
5 жыл бұрын
@Daisy Wong It doesn't help that soy boys on the internet and on KZitem in particular have single handedly ruined their name.
@robertmcmillan3638
5 жыл бұрын
@Daisy Wong Yeah! I was thinking that all the abuse they get was something to do with the "make America great again" ideology from Trump supporters? They may have a L.A office, I thought they were a Singapore company even though they (and evey other company) get their products manufactured in China.
@mayrosauce9625
4 жыл бұрын
Quick question, what kind of wireless controllers are they? Bluetooth or infrared?
@EpicFurbynerd76YO
22 күн бұрын
is there a way to mod the flashback so it can properly play carts with Lock On Technology and Sonic 3? I have a 1993 Genesis anyways, but I'd want to make the flashback better
@AP101083
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. The 2018 version is a lot better as I said before :) And you can even easily hack it!
@AresGod0fWar
4 жыл бұрын
Man. Streets of Rage 4 is coming out tomorrow! I’m excited to play it, and since I own the Sega Genesis Classics collection, I’ve been playing the old Streets of Rage games. I mainly bought that collection for SOR, Golden Axe, and Altered Beast. Those were some of my favorite games growing up. However, now I’m getting the itch to play other games from that time period. Lol I decided that I want to either find an original console or one that can play older games. I’m 100% fine with buying cartridges, however, how do you go about getting games on the SD? Where do you get them from? That would be legit. Some games I’m thinking about trying to get are Budokan, Mystic Defender, Quack Shot to name a few. Hell, I don’t like sports games, but I’d be down to pick up Joe Montana or Madden. Those games were sweet.
@FishBeeProductions
4 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely have to try out Streets of Rage 4! The SD card came with the one I bought on eBay (used).
@slovakroads3677
5 жыл бұрын
Hiii, at 6:28, which version of turtles it is? Thx for reply and great video
@FishBeeProductions
5 жыл бұрын
ninja turtles hyperstone heist
@jpleypad3132
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks now iam sending back the 2017 deluxe version and getting the 2018 version
@lonewolf5322
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100 percent.
@vtuber5794
4 жыл бұрын
It would be great if there was a 2019 edition or 2020 edition or a Japanese edition.
@RCjesus.David.2581
4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a used Flashback not knowing there were more revisions. I must have got the 2017, looks exactly the same as in this Video. The first thing I found out that Sonic 2 doesn't run as smooth as on the original console or the Mini. How is the performance on the 2018, same as the original?
4 жыл бұрын
Around here (Portugal) the At Games is more expensive than the Genesis Mini around 1€.
@giancarlobaillet8290
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have bought the 8bitdo controllers 2,4 ghz for genesis. They don’t work with flashback 2018 system. Have you tried them? Thank you.
@FishBeeProductions
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I tried those wireless ones and I couldn't get it to work either, I'm not sure why but I haven't had a chance to try to get them to work either
@JohnnyProctor9
4 жыл бұрын
Why would you need this? The Flashback already comes with 2.4 ghz wireless 6-button controllers...
@mets23q
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the differences
@coreybenoit9268
2 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between 2017 and 2018 model?
@stevensteviepryde5888
Жыл бұрын
Just think of all the extra add-ons you can put to enhance your gameplay: -32-X -Game Genie -Sega CD -That add-on to play Master System games
@kyles8524
Жыл бұрын
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@snarl8
4 жыл бұрын
still prefer the mini but nice review
@connorplays6263
6 ай бұрын
I found my 2018 Genesis flashback for around $20
@yiorgo187
4 жыл бұрын
Can you just put in a sd card with games right out the box or do you need to update it
@gpe.garcia6045
Жыл бұрын
Muy buen video me sirvió bastante 👍
@ProWrestlingFan1995
5 жыл бұрын
Still rather own the Mini tbh, I freaking hate AtGames.
@AP101083
5 жыл бұрын
Hating a company is not really fair by hating a product that is actually pretty decent... Yes most of their (older) products are garabge but I also own the Sega Flashback 2018 edition and it's really nice! I also own the Official Sega Mini and the Flashback 2018 edition is actually better on many aspects!
@vidyabatter
4 жыл бұрын
1. Because you can play Sonic 3
@nuker222
4 жыл бұрын
Wich has better graphic ??
@RETRONuts
3 жыл бұрын
I have all 3 of them(MD Mini,2017/18), the 2018 version, I got a mega cd 1 case for it and cut it down so it fitted it, it looked quiet nice, one problem I had with it is it runs at 60hz not 50hz so PAL games would play to fast, like some Mega CD FMV games, so you would have to play NTSC version of the game on it, so could not play the Mega Power Mag Demos, I like the wireless controllers. The 2018 version can be hacked to play games and add covers to its menu, I got mine from ebay and it was £25.
@Apanblod
3 жыл бұрын
Why in the name of everything holy did they choose to curse the Mini with the 3-button controllers only for most markets? The single most stupid decision I've ever witnessed when it comes to these re-released classic consoles.
@nu-agegamer3548
3 жыл бұрын
I still love my Genesis mini.
@michaelanderson9792
3 жыл бұрын
Yes found it on eBay and liked it throw my stimulus Monday and buy it
@boredstudent
4 жыл бұрын
AtGames actually made a good Sega Genesis emulation console? I've seen a lot of the other ones, mostly at a CVS or Walgreens but they never really interested me. I bought the Sega Genesis mini so I'll just stick to that one. Plus I lost my Sega Genesis games so the cartridge slot would be useless for me anyway. I also like that you don't have to hack the Flashback console to play other games because it comes with an SD card drive so you can play other games saved onto an SD card.
@curtdower1330
2 жыл бұрын
The 2018 model is the only AtGames Sega console I would actually recommend, I actually really like it! 😃 I also got the 2017 version for collectors sake as well, and the 2017 version just seems very choppy on the frame rate. Saying that, some games like Sonic 3 will play on the 2017 model, whereas on the 2018 model it does not... But also obviously as mentioned on the 2017 model it will play the game with a poor frame rate. 🎮 Saying that though, I think if I remember right I played Ecco 2 🐬 on the 2018 model and the sound was crackly?? So still some small minor issues, but compared to the 2017 model, the 2018 model is an underrated third party gem. 💎 Basically it was too little too late, as then a few years later we got the made in house Megadrive Mini.
@andrewzapata3427
2 жыл бұрын
I love the Sega Genesis Mini released by Sega
@OrcDeathKnight
4 жыл бұрын
Target used to carry these all the time
@theformulated1
4 жыл бұрын
Does it have Street Fighter II Special Edition?
@synthesizerisking2886
4 жыл бұрын
Where you get the 1000 games on sd card from????
@FishBeeProductions
4 жыл бұрын
It came with the one I bought on eBay
@missingtexture921
4 жыл бұрын
No no I wasted my money for good, and it’s the mini
@smartacus88
4 жыл бұрын
Got the Genesis Mini, two 6-button controllers (in addition to the two 3 button controllers it came with) had it overclocked, and got a USB with the entire U.S game library for $185.00 USD. I'm satisfied. Edit: And I'm not talking about the True Blue USB. I bought from a pro. All the games are glitch free.
@CasViewer
5 жыл бұрын
But, does it freeze like the 2017 version?
@louistournas120
4 жыл бұрын
I haven't had problems with freezing and I have been playing it since oct 2019. I also play games I put on the SD card, such as Moonwalker.
@deloneleslie4966
3 ай бұрын
How do I get the games
@aprilstegall6002
5 жыл бұрын
One question CAN U PLAY SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES ON THE 2018 SEGA GENESIS FLASHBACK?
@Deadsea_1993
4 жыл бұрын
April Stegall. Yes if you add it
@decentrik
4 жыл бұрын
@@Deadsea_1993 i think he means with both games interlocked.
@Demonanimator
4 жыл бұрын
Does it play ALL the original carts? Because the last Atgames systems wouldn’t play most carts like Super Street Fighter 2. So i wouldn’t call them “better” until that’s looked into.
@michaeljoseph9390
4 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason SSF2 won’t play on it. The Sega Genesis version of SSF2 was released on a 40 Megabit cartridge, which allowed the inclusions of additional voice clips of the game's announcer However, the game ROM is 5MB (40 Megabits) in size, while the Genesis console can only safely access 4MB. Capcom created a special bank switching mapper unit to get around this problem, with Super Street Fighter II being the only officially licensed game on the Genesis to use such technology (others opt for an SRAM mapper). The emulator wasn’t designed for this particular issue.
@224chingon
4 жыл бұрын
If i buy the 2018 flashback version and i want to add more games who can do it for me since i dont have a pc plus i am not good at computers. Thanks
@jasonbuckenberger3122
4 жыл бұрын
Check Ebay and Etsy. People sell preloaded cards sometimes there
@thisisallthereis
5 жыл бұрын
It's not for sale anywhere.....
@robertmcmillan3638
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's hard to find At Games stuff nowadays as the soy boys booed their stuff off the market. If you're in the UK try Menkind. Argos don't seem to sell the At Games stuff anymore. So if Menkind don't have it then it will probably only be available online from the usual Amazon or through them as there's no proper shops worth talking about left anymore ☹️.
@ArcadeCabNBud
5 жыл бұрын
im just gonna use a pi with official sega usb controllers and mega pi case, as my bro has my old carts. sorted.
@theduder1975
4 жыл бұрын
Mega Sg beats both lol only downside to it though is it’s price
@Cmag3342
Жыл бұрын
3:31 sounds like he said flash to the back sounds like a joke
@FishBeeProductions
Жыл бұрын
LOL probably my poor editing skills
@kevinmcgreevy8914
4 жыл бұрын
What is a SD card?
@Tarquin23
4 ай бұрын
Did you ever find out?
@roldanrosario243
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@hamazakixam
3 жыл бұрын
@tgames are jokes. there's no way to compare with.
@robertevans1343
Жыл бұрын
👍🏾 👍🏾
@z3fty821
5 жыл бұрын
Do hyperx cloud alpha
@fmcra
4 жыл бұрын
The mini is better. Why? Because I still have the original Genesis 😎
@Random_1384x
9 ай бұрын
The sound fucking sucks on atgames
@Gaming25
4 жыл бұрын
Both ATGames fakes suck. Get the original.
@chriswells7322
4 жыл бұрын
Bwahaha 😂
@Goji678
4 жыл бұрын
You are crazy
@fernandoenamorado2480
2 жыл бұрын
Wait I thought I had the Sega genesis mini already but apparently I don’t. I didn’t realize they had a Sega genesis flashback 2017 and 2018 AND also a mini. I thought it was all Sega genesis mini 🙄🤦🏻♂️ I feel so stupid now. I just bought mine like 3 years ago when I did and didn’t think much of it I even tried using a cartridge and it didn’t work or so I thought. I just realized it has a very faint menu option at the bottom saying “cartridge games” which I’ve NEVER noticed before bcuz I was too busy going to mortal kombat 3 and 2 🤣🤣🤣😅 I thought the point is you can’t use cartridges but you can play the set amount of original games. So this is essentially functioning like the original Sega genesis where it DOES play games but better right? I can’t believe I overlooked the cartridge games part….IF I had seen it at some point I may have just thought it being faint was a way to say that you can’t play cartridge games 😅🤣🤣 I mean it would kind of make sense considering old games like mk if you go over a character you can’t choose it like smoke in mk3 unless you unlock him. Now I’m excited to buy genesis classics! Anyone know if mortalnlombat 2 unlimited is a legit game? I wanna buy it
@fernandoenamorado2480
2 жыл бұрын
To add to my previous comment I tried 3 different sega genesis games and I hear a clicking noise on screen as if the system knows something’s been inserted but NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS!!! There is NO LOADING SCREEN. Does anyone knoW WHY this is happening or does anyone have the same problem? It’s not playing cartridges and idk what to do
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