How do you feel about pop punk? These are 5 general reasons I've found from diving through the intergalactic highway to find out why people seem to hate the genre so much...
@krystalalien3344
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a list of reasons why people hate Nu Metal?
@conormurphy4328
4 жыл бұрын
Vinteler Alin *50 minute video*
@Thesportsmusicgod
4 жыл бұрын
Vinteler Alin good idea
@Thesportsmusicgod
4 жыл бұрын
Also do one for post gurnge
@tutdunsthemouse
4 жыл бұрын
I love pop punk, but I can't stand the whiny 'pop punk voice' that some leads put on
@silent_cipher9308
4 жыл бұрын
The reason new bands aren't popular anymore is because pop punk fans won't let the go of the older bands. If the fans cant give the new bands a chance, this genre will never come back.
@Regent192
4 жыл бұрын
you can say the same about metal fans
@adamgrayson8019
4 жыл бұрын
That's Rock and Metal fans in general
@GREG_Khar-NÜ-Metalhead2000
4 жыл бұрын
If the new bands sounds like 00s bands then i give em a chance
@xjadit7826
4 жыл бұрын
Greg Khar Punkerz no the genre dosent need to sound like it did 20 years go I don’t like the direction it’s gone in but I don’t want it to be the same shit over and over either we’ve had that already
@travisspazz1624
4 жыл бұрын
I just don't think the new bands are very good 🤷
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
4 жыл бұрын
*I hate this town, my parents, and life is crashing down around me intensifies*
@fujifilm5127
4 жыл бұрын
*insert any less than Jake opening*
@su3622
3 жыл бұрын
I started singing *it's so washed up and all my friends don't give a fuck*
@benjipc5637
4 жыл бұрын
There's a quote from Billie Joe Armstrong relating to 6:13: "You can take us out of punk but you can't take the punk out of us."
@IsasHappyHour
4 жыл бұрын
yeah, they took out the punk themselves
@dreamofyouandi
4 жыл бұрын
and then they released father of all
@redwanhossainrisann
4 жыл бұрын
man i have never heard any green day bad song untill father of all album.
@shshu1shcj132
4 жыл бұрын
@@dreamofyouandi I mean, its not *that* bad. Sugar Youth is a very good song. Other than that, I'm not a huge fan of the album
@pkrockin3923
4 жыл бұрын
Still listening to Greenday but only their pre-american idiot albums.
@_pseudo_embrace_
4 жыл бұрын
part of me wishes pop punk could make a comeback but it probably won't happen ://
@ronstoppable5659
4 жыл бұрын
The last pop punk adjacent song to hit the mainstream was Love Drunk by Boys Like Girls and that came out 11 years ago and the last full blown pop punk track to hit the mainstream was Misery Business, which came out 13 years ago, let that sink in
@megmeg2784
4 жыл бұрын
I doubt we’re gonna see it for a while, but I have hope
@corktreeluvr
4 жыл бұрын
I am in a band I want us to be pop punk lmaoo
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
4 жыл бұрын
Jason LovesABR Yeah.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
4 жыл бұрын
Jason LovesABR You could throw in The Story So Far, too, as their last album reached #19 on the Billboard 200. Also, Neck Deep’s, “The Peace and the Panic”, debuted at #4 on the Billboard 200 in both the US and UK back in 2017.
@ronstoppable5659
4 жыл бұрын
Different types of pop punk and where the bands belong: Skate pop punk: pre-Self Titled Blink, All Killer era Sum 41, The Offspring Power pop punk: Bowling For Soup, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan The poppiest side of the genre: All American Rejects, Boys Like Girls, early 5SOS, Busted, Nothing Personal-era All Time Low “Heavier” pop punk: Billy Talent, Does This Look Infected era Sum 41, Neck Deep (Before These god awful new singles), The Story So Far, A Day To Remember, Wonder Years “Emo” inspired pop punk: early FOB, All We Know-era Paramore Dark pop punk: Three Cheers-era MCR, Alkaline Trio Often mistaken as pop punk: Avril Lavigne, Panic! At The Disco Sad Boi pop punk: Knuckle Puck, Man Overboard, Real Friends, Mayday Parade (even though they were around, before that term was a thing) (That’s All I’ve got)
@josepablodeleon6073
4 жыл бұрын
Sadboi pop punk? Real Friends, Knuckle Puck, Man Overboard, Mayday Parade, etc.
@Justherox345
4 жыл бұрын
Isnt green day pop punk?
@LuciusGeronimo
4 жыл бұрын
@@josepablodeleon6073 Mayday Parade was a thing WAY before sadboi was a thing
@hatedplatypus8080
4 жыл бұрын
@fantastic Nevin I think they’re closer to punk rock
@ronstoppable5659
4 жыл бұрын
@fantastic Nevin They are But I’m not sure where I would put them
@magdalenaformankova8053
4 жыл бұрын
Whiny and easy to make? And trap rap isn’t? Pop punk at least have some deep lyrics and guitars...
@poppinfresh5261
4 жыл бұрын
I’d rather hear something relatable about a girl breaking up with me than hearing, money money drugs killing people screwing chicks n word n word.
@julianoseguera5887
4 жыл бұрын
Kaden Lewis racist
@julianoseguera5887
4 жыл бұрын
Kaden Lewis also sorry you don’t get money or girls bro
@dizzy6947
4 жыл бұрын
Making trap beat is just as hard (maybe harder) as it is to make pop punk song
@jakefoster5611
4 жыл бұрын
you don't know what you're talking about. making beats IS hard. rapping IS hard. rap actually has A LOT of deep lyrics. lots of trap rap also has guitars. a lot of the newer trap rap is heavily influenced by pop punk and emo, and the lyrical content is much the same.
@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129
4 жыл бұрын
Wait people hate pop punk? My 50 year old dad who loves 50s and 60s music loves pop punk. I don't understand why people wouldn't like it
@ucopiedyibo1959
4 жыл бұрын
And the vocals and guitar riffs
@sidzzz9165
4 жыл бұрын
The Reverse -Flash anyone can make grunge look at Courtney love lol
@thytoe
4 жыл бұрын
cheesy commercialised punk for edgy teens
@tracy1210
4 жыл бұрын
It all depends of tastes
@poppinfresh5261
4 жыл бұрын
The Reverse -Flash let’s hear your new songs
@madeleinep.828
4 жыл бұрын
It makes me laugh how a lot of people think that every pop punk song is like All Signs Point to Lauderdale by A Day to Remember.
@robbiebrewer6153
4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk is better than mumble rap
@JaretVincent
4 жыл бұрын
Literally anything is better than mumble rap.
@Highrollinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
Thrash metal is better than both of them f**king Slayer
@scovserbcurmudgeon6818
4 жыл бұрын
The sound of wet shit hitting a hardwood floor is better than mumble rap.
@idkanymore9869
4 жыл бұрын
Brindle Chihuahua Slayer music is boring in my opinion
@retronerds6884
4 жыл бұрын
Okay but mumble rap isn't the major form rap or the most popular lyrical or conscious rap is
@danielmorgan104dm
4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk was the first genre of music i really got into and for that i have much respect for the genre. GreenDay and Blink for example were the first bands i fully engaged with as a 10 year old hopefully the genre has a good future with some really good bands popping up such as Stand Atlantic and even Waterparks really bringing in a varied fan base
@justuswilson9137
4 жыл бұрын
I'm excited about the new era of pop punk! Stand Atlantic, Knuckle Puck, With Confidence, etc... are all killing it rn and I like MGK's new sound and how he blends his rapper personality with his rocker side. Even older groups like All Time Low and Blink are still killing it imo
@xjadit7826
4 жыл бұрын
Blink? Realy their literally a parody of them selves at this point they’ve turned in to the Verry thing they made fun of when they were younger
@tracy1210
4 жыл бұрын
Tom Delonge decided to change cause he didn't fit in blink, now AvA is a great band but the new blink is not great. I'm not sure if I even should argue but you just need to listen to Nine to understand a lot of today's bands are better. I love blink but blink with skibba is not that great at all, even if it's not the worst band All in all it's just a matter of taste
@poppinfresh5261
4 жыл бұрын
not mgk or yungblud. please god no.
@johnjacob3160
4 жыл бұрын
New era of pop punk??? Lol dude those bands gave pop punk a revival in like 2012-2017, but its already dead again
@PhoenixRiseinFlame
4 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, Belmont is an underrated band in the genre.
@KoaAbyss
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly really like Pop Punk, though i'm pretty picky about it. Though, I'm loving the pop punk bands that have been fusing into different genres or adding new influences like Waterparks, Stand Atlantic, As It Is, and Broadside.
@mikeredwinski8875
4 жыл бұрын
This describes me pretty well, got into the genre pretty late (2016), can’t stand heavier sounds or late 2000s with whiny voices (sleeping with sirens )
@evanhouser401
4 жыл бұрын
For me personally I’m 100% a pop punk kid!! I love it so much!!
@muhamadkemal1999
4 жыл бұрын
U got my back bro
@jomomma4993
3 жыл бұрын
L
@DuffyLONER64
4 жыл бұрын
I think my problem with a lot of pop punk is that a lot of it sounds very samey, with very similar riffs, guitar tuning, tempos, and drum patterns. There's definitely some good pop punk out there (like the ones you mentioned), but most just seem to fall into the same boat as modern rap for me.
@pkrockin3923
4 жыл бұрын
Check out the band named ALL if you want a non-generic pop punk sound. They're basically like a progressive pop punk band instead of a yet-another-ramones-clone.
@somegingerdude8110
4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk got me into music
@CAVFIFTEEN
4 жыл бұрын
Personally I usually label it all as rock music. All Time Low is hands down my favorite band and really got me into the scene. But even before them I loved Blink, Green Day, and BFS. I don’t really get the concept that “oh they’re too whinny”. Yeah, people have problems and they need artists and such to relate to in those times. And that’s the thing. If I were to say pop punk is one thing, it’s relatable above everything else. Most bands have artists that are just normal looking people singing about their hopes, dreams, fears, love, loss, etc. I live in Florida and I don’t care for it here so I can totally relate to to the “wanna leave this town and start a new life” kinda music. And come on! Who hasn’t had their heart broken, felt like the weird kid , hell even been the weird kid (or adult) and felt like they don’t belong and no one understands them? If you’ve never felt these things then I’m happy for you but those of us that are more emotional and deal with these things (some people daily) NEED people they can relate and look up to. I used to hate the term “emo” but now I love it because what does it ultimately mean? Emotional. And for me at least it’s amazing when you hear others express their emotions and you can think like “oh shit. They understand how I feel”. Hell The new emo rap is starting to grow on me because instead of being about “drugs, bitches, and gang life” (not saying all rap is but a lot of it’s out there) it’s about emotional highs and lows. Like Juice WRLD’s “Lucid Dreams” for example. And yes. I dig what MGK’s doing rn too. In regards to the gate keeping, yeah that’s a problem you get with all purists of all fandoms. I’m not sure if there’s a way to actually change that but I also wish people were more open minded. I love the twist on rock music that Waterparks brings to the table for example. They hate being called pop punk so I’ll refrain from that but they definitely have elements of pop punk for sure. Yet, Awstens’ delivery in a lot of the songs is very akin to rapping and they have a fair amount of electronic stylings as well. For those saying “it’s too simplistic, anyone can do it” first off, I implore you. Please. Go do it then if it’s so easy. Second, that’s definitely part of the charm. This idea that “hey these people are like me and maybe I have a chance at being as big as them and doing what I love for a living like they are”. That alone is so incredible and inspirational. And that’s ultimately why I say pop punk at its core is about one thing above all else. Relatability. For that, I believe it is extremely important that the genre continues and strives (unless something similar over takes it). But for now, I think it’s definitely here to stay.
@baileylanore
3 жыл бұрын
That is probably the best description of pop punk I’ve ever heard
@bro-rm5xo
4 жыл бұрын
I have nothing against pop punk... but I hate it😂 To me, the genre simply does not appeal to me. The vocals are consistently annoying to my ears. They are either whiney sounding or the cheesy chorus melodies just repulse me. I do like a lot of post punk and more unhinged punk but I wouldn't consider myself an elitist. Music is all subjective and while I hate pop punk, I would actively encourage anyone who loves it to keep listening! I'm of the mindset of spreading the love of MUSIC as a whole, not just a genre.
@CAVFIFTEEN
4 жыл бұрын
And because you can be open minded, understanding, and accepting of the fact that while something isn’t for you doesn’t mean it’s bad so you can let others enjoy it, you are going about this in the right way. As such I can honestly say I respect your opinion yet disagree. To each their own.
@Metal-Theory-Reacts
4 жыл бұрын
Nobody hates Pop-Punk just ask all my friends.
@ph03beuwu
3 ай бұрын
your friends dont, a lot of people do lmao
@duncanwilson2392
4 жыл бұрын
'Pop Punk is an oxymoron. The two genres were never meant to mix.' Have these people heard of a band called Ramones?
@rodpunkrock7047
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, ramones, but descendents, schreeching weasel, jawbreacker too.
@TheMCzorro
Жыл бұрын
Sex Pistols as well
@ph03beuwu
3 ай бұрын
sure, but the ethos is still anti-mainstream now. it evolved past the days of the ramones and the pistols
@jckfilms6379
4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk is my favorite genre. Half of the bands I'm into follow that genre, and I made a pop punk band that Jon is aware of when we chatted once.
@Amber_xo_133
4 жыл бұрын
Pop Punk made a huge comeback
@Amber_xo_133
2 жыл бұрын
@Mexican seafood Pop Punk made a comeback
@Amber_xo_133
2 жыл бұрын
@Mexican seafood no
@thundervideoproductions283
4 жыл бұрын
I used to listen to pop punk, but now I listen to more “real”/hardcore/anarcho punk. I think what bothers those who listen to heavier punk genres is that when most people think of punk nowadays, they think of pop punk instead. If i were to tell someone i listened to punk, they would likely think i mean green day, blink 182, or any other similar sounding bands, even though that isn’t what i listen to. I just would like to see more people differentiating punk and pop punk.
@cedriclhomosapienfunky9160
2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly my feeling to mainstream Rap as well. When I say I listen to Hip-Hop, I mean MF DOOM, Grandmaster Flash, ICP or some Gorillaz songs, not Lil Wayne, Lil Pump or Cardi B (yuck !).
@RevStickleback
3 жыл бұрын
There's another reason why it's almost fashionable to hate pop punk - it's melodic. The very term 'pop' punk is almost a derogatory description...ie. it's not real punk, it's pop punk. Pop, and melody in general, is seen now as something "those crappy mainstream songs have" so the tendency for bands and fans is to steer away from melody and go for something more extreme instead. It's crazy. The Ramones were melodic. The Damned were melodic. Even the Sex Pistols were melodic. Punk was effectively old rock & roll on steroids. It was only later, in the 80s, that hardcore punk redefined what a lot of people in the USA call punk. I would concede that a lot of pop punk bands from the very late 90s onwards did sound incredibly generic, and the vocals were whiny in their delivery, but I think if bands of all genres could lose their fear of writing a song that's 'catchy', the music world would be a better place.
@Kiakaha-v2o
Жыл бұрын
People secretly love catchy melodies but openly hate it as they realize that's what people love, so liking it doesn't make you look "edgy" enough Make zero sense but that's what punk rock poser mentality all about: It's just about image and identity, music doesn't even matter, the real reason why punk is dead, and well deserved
@RevStickleback
Жыл бұрын
@@Kiakaha-v2o Metal has gone down that same route, but somehow it retains a degree of popularity - maybe because there are big metal bands still playing and drawing fans in. With punk, the attitude seems far worse in the USA, where many seem stuck with the idea that it's aggressive hardcore or nothing. In the UK, in contrast, Rumkicks could all but fill the main hall for a terrible 2pm slot at the Rebellion Festival, despite them being women, playing catchy punk, and usually not even singing in English.
@Kiakaha-v2o
Жыл бұрын
@@RevStickleback In the other hand metal is still envolving, despite being controversial, djent is the new thing, originated from a subgenre which nickname is "musical wankfest". I guess diversity can really keep a genre live
@sethbutler1958
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't mind early punk like The Ramones, Buzzcocks, etc. But I hate it now...The emo pop punk and pop punk in general drives me insane. The fact that the genre is more popular than let's say, power metal, pisses me off like no other.
@_PuppetMaster86
3 жыл бұрын
I’m with you on that. True punk to me are bands like The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Bad Brains, The Clash (from 1977 to 1979), The Buzzcocks, Television, Bikini Kill, Black Flag, and The Damned. Many recent post-punk bands (Squid, Parquet Courts, shame, etc.) are doing more for punk than most if not all pop punk bands from the mid-90s and the 2000s.
@jameshowes9716
4 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do a vid about Emo Rap that posits the same question
@Crawlingdreams418
4 жыл бұрын
I wish they could acknowledge "emo" rap for the "dark" kind that it is. Emo is too firm and can't be as diverse as metal is. Even nu metal has some ties to the roots. "Emo" rap doesn't.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
4 жыл бұрын
@@Crawlingdreams418 Emo rap is as deep as a kiddie pool, in my eyes.
@kingzod8536
4 жыл бұрын
@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 well most emo rappers well the modern ones, are influenced by trap rap and not dissing trap but it's not the best genre, to be influenced by when making a emo offshoot of a genre.
@philly_sports1558
4 жыл бұрын
I personally love pop punk as a genre. Green Day, Paramore, Blink-182, Sum 41, and Rise Against (even though they're more melodic hardcore than pop punk) are some of my favorite bands. I also love my share of songs from Fall Out Boy, MCR, All American Rejects, New Found Glory, etc. I think the main reason why people dislike it is due to the similarity in lyrics as well as the fact that it takes an underground genre and makes it more accessible. It's why most metalheads tend to hate 80s glam metal. Personally, that doesn't mean much to me because a lot of these bands aren't trying to be hardcore like Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, or Misfits. They happen to write catchy songs with a lot of attitude with the instrumentation. Pop punk isn't supposed to be as complex or musically interesting as other genres (even though Green Day & the Fueled By Ramen bands wanted to push the genre's boundaries in the 2000s). It's its own fun little thing that I happen to really appreciate.
@natalieshannon7659
4 жыл бұрын
Do videos on obscure genres of punk. Like Celtic Punk. Bands like Dropkick Murphys, Flogging Molly, The Pogues. Or do videos on Horror Punk (The Misfits) and Psychobilly. These genres of Punk never get talked about.
@deathcoredanny
4 жыл бұрын
Made me happy to see the Belmont love, they're one of the most innovative pop punk bands out there right now!
@eris.mp4
4 жыл бұрын
Agree! I can’t wait to see what else they do as all their stuff so far has been so interesting
@deathcoredanny
4 жыл бұрын
@@eris.mp4 definitely! Ive had their latest ep on repeat for over a month
@silent_cipher9308
4 жыл бұрын
5 reasons why people LOVE kpop 5 reasons why people HATE kpop
@thankuslay6766
4 жыл бұрын
Reasons people love K-Pop 1. Been tired of boring Western popstar and mumble rapper 2. Having good live performance, outstanding stage presence and energetic choreo 3. Makes people wanna ''dance'' even though they don't know any single word 4. K-Pop is visual music, so it does entertain our eyes 5. K-Pop idols are talented, trained hard and discipline Reasons why people hate K-Pop 1. They all look the same (the concept, the hairstyle, the look) 2. Lipsyncing *not always 3. The way label treats idols (idols=puppet) *not always 4. Tight competition and strict rules 5. Plastic surgery
@xxshadowolfexx5730
4 жыл бұрын
people’s misconceptions about the fanbase are definitely a hate reason
@vishalkandulna5357
4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk is not interesting
@rockerdude8289
4 жыл бұрын
I love pop rock, pop punk, alternative rock, "pure" pop and contemporary R&B. I hate EDM and dubstep.
@GREG_Khar-NÜ-Metalhead2000
4 жыл бұрын
I like 00s pop punk....new pop punk is just pop? I dont like it like i can't listen to it
@antoniobarrera1983
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
4 жыл бұрын
I dislike the MGK, emo rap style of pop punk (if you can even consider it to be "pop punk"). That crap is so fake. I like both new school and old school. Both styles are pretty cool.
@gggallin8279
2 жыл бұрын
Pop Punk in general isn’t punk. I don’t hate on Pop Punk but they just should call it Pop Rock or Skate Rock or something like that.
@lincolnjezek4370
2 жыл бұрын
The reason I hate it is because it ruins everything about punk rock. It takes that hard angry sound that was built up in the 70s and 80s and makes it accessible and cooperate
@outlikeabitch
10 ай бұрын
Thank you Pop punk didn't "evolve from punk rock" it evolved from pop and there's nothing wrong with pop music if that's what someone likes but it isn't punk rock Punk rock is rooted in anger and struggle, pop punk is rooted in mild inconvenice
@waifubreaks1572
3 жыл бұрын
Descendants did the whole "poppy" sounding punk thing without selling out, in the 80s.
@spykidtinkertoy
4 жыл бұрын
Idk why but I want an edited video of this and it's just every time you say pop punk
@dantemeza1
4 жыл бұрын
For me it dosen't matter, Pop Punk Or Punk it dosen't matter, they are both awesome in my opinion.
@griffinohara2794
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like pop punk isn’t an oxymoron. The big 3 of 70’s punk (Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols) were all pretty successful and to this day get airplay on rock stations. They were pop bands at the time. Punk only started to become an insular scene in the 80’s when the hardcore movement started to pick up steam.
@philly_sports1558
4 жыл бұрын
If no punk purists criticize The Clash for making obvious pop songs like Rock the Casbah or criticize The Ramones for having very pop-centric melodies, why do they criticize post-1990 pop punk bands for doing the same thing? It's totally hypocritical.
@griffinohara2794
4 жыл бұрын
philly_ sports Absolutley
@iliketrains3495
4 жыл бұрын
philly_ sports pretty sure some Clash fans hate Rock the Casbah. Joe Strummer even considered leaving the band after the songs success
@CAVFIFTEEN
4 жыл бұрын
When something that only relates to people who consider themselves outcasts becomes mainstream, they feel like it was taken away from them as if they had a right to it in the first place. How comic purists react to the MCU is a good example of this. You can find plenty of this gatekeeping nonsense on places reddit and iFunny too. They’re currently doing it with ATLA (Avatar the Last Airbender) because it’s popular on Netflix now. Unfortunately it’s just they way things go once something originally niche becomes mainstream
@IH8AI
4 жыл бұрын
Identifying a genre by its popularity was always idiotic. The sound alone should define the genre.
@DeathRider1298
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not too crazy about machine gun kelly's pop punk project but at least he's bringing some attention to the genre which imo is needed
@bluepinkman4785
4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk has so many talented musicians. The reason I think pop punk is hated is because the whiny vocal style, the same sound all over again and the songs get so annoying when you play it again and again.
@addiefalloutgirl313
4 жыл бұрын
damn I think I'm a fake poser cause I don't mosh xD Stupid knee that makes me scared of getting close to big crowds
@ph03beuwu
3 ай бұрын
u dont have to mosh to be a "real" punk. its a big part of the culture but its okay not to partake in it
@ArtsykatDCH
4 жыл бұрын
also I’m a Kpop Stan and I agree on how Kpop fans gatekeep lmfao. well the things you do for your faves I guess
@jackgatti8643
4 жыл бұрын
I don't like K pop, but at least they are doing very good things on twitter right now.
@silent_cipher9308
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a kpop fan too and it's kind of sad when the minority group of a large fandom gets all the attention and they make us all look bad
@xxshadowolfexx5730
4 жыл бұрын
o! i knew i couldn’t be the only person who liked both pop punk and kpop (:
@thechizzamiliz
4 жыл бұрын
5 Reasons Why People LOVE Post Rock, IDM or Black Metal. 5 Reasons Why People HATE Post Grunge(Nickelback, Creed, etc) or Nu Metal.
@ronstoppable5659
4 жыл бұрын
Why people hate nu metal: 1. Its heavy overexposure on TRL and Rock Radio back in the day (I mean for god’s sake Freak On A Leash was 1 spot higher than Baby One More Time In The 1999 TRL year end countdown) 2. Purists that think that it killed metal 3. The lyrics that people often find whiny and unintentionally hilarious 4. The often very cringy rapping Why people hate post grunge: 1. The vocals 2. The heavy overexposure on both pop and rock radio 3. The faux deep lyrics 4. Everyone considering it a bastardization Of grunge
@theseth455
4 жыл бұрын
Even though it’s become one of my favorite genres of music over the past 4 years, I can definitely get why some people dislike or even hate pop punk and especially for the reasons pointed out here.
@tylerpetersen9494
4 жыл бұрын
Pop Punk was my gateway drug into metal core and post hardcore. In the early 2000’s and even parts of the 2010’s a lot of these bands with different styles toured together. Is pop punk my favorite genre? I don’t know maybe. It’s definitely the one I’m most comfortable with and feel like I know the most about. I do owe pop punk music for bringing me into situations where I discovered other great genres.
@po0p587
4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I just call anything that sounds punk, punk. That way no one can complain.
@labibchy1423
4 жыл бұрын
Make one of these vids on modern rap.
@NutsNBolts-fv9kx
3 жыл бұрын
Most of the 90s and early 2000s stuff are kinda awful to me, but the more modern, indie rock-influenced artists have their gems
@swam4362
4 жыл бұрын
Offspring, Green Day, Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, Sum 41, and Paramore all sound completely different from each other. First and foremost, COMPLETELY different vocal styles and guitar tunings. Patrick Stump sings soul, Tom Delonge's singing is ENTIRELY unique to him, and BJ's voice is also entirely his own. Fall Out Boy loves drop D, Green Day used Eb, and a lot of bands use standard tuning. Travis Barker is a fanominal drummer and so is Tre. There's also some really good guitar players in the pop punk scene as well. For having literally no lessons ever, Tom Delonge is really good at guitar. And hating their hometowns and exes? Hmmm. I feel like that's actually not as common as you may think. Green Day really didn't do this at all. Blink 182's songs were pretty much satirical and comedic on purpose and weren't really like dead serious songs. Sum 41 straight up didn't do this. The pop punk stigma of it only being like a C5, G5, F5 three chord progression the entire song is blatantly false. Literally no bands do this. There are melodies being played. If you look at a song like Dammit, probably half of that song is lead. The DIY scene is straight up dead. The only way you can operate a DIY venue is if you have a secondary income. Labels don't make money in the DIY scene either and bands certainly dont make much money. There will be maybe 20 people at your shows.
@JaretVincent
4 жыл бұрын
Yea I dont really know where the “all pop punk bands sound the same”. You could listen to one FOB, MCR, and Paramore song and instantly tell in their other songs what band it is.
@CAVFIFTEEN
4 жыл бұрын
If I could give this comment more likes or favorite it, I definitely would. Very well said. Btw, I’ve noticed the common chord progression is Bm, D, A, G. Not all songs but a lot of them do use these chords not necessarily in the same order though. Who charges either way? Good music is still good music right?
@swam4362
4 жыл бұрын
@@CAVFIFTEEN idk dude I don't think THAT many songs are just the same chord progression in pop punk. Idk any of them that are Bm, D, A, G, but if you know a lot of songs that are like that, that's cool. There probably are a lot of songs that are like that. But like you said, who the fuck actually cares? Good music is still good music, exactly.
@JaretVincent
3 жыл бұрын
The reason why I can only listen to a few bands is because of the vocals. There are a few exceptions of course, but most of these vocalists are just not very good and all try the whiny voice thing that just doesnt cut it for me.
@FabulousKilljoy
4 жыл бұрын
Sad boi pop punk is my life lol
@TheOrangeStripe
4 жыл бұрын
Blink-182 is my favorite pop-punk group of all-time they were the trailblazers and their humor from the early to late 1990’s Enema of the State from ‘99 is THE pop-punk album!!!
@ArtsykatDCH
4 жыл бұрын
BRUHHH POP PUNK IS ONE OF THE BEST GENRES. I grew up with this and even though it’s kinda dying I still love it so much.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
4 жыл бұрын
ujungxluv It’s not dying. It’s just underground.
@muhamadkemal1999
4 жыл бұрын
U got my back!
@mcdalek2233
4 жыл бұрын
There's a pretty good band from Australia called Yours Truly who have this kind of Pop-Punk vibe. Figured I'd give them a mention :)
@rrmgnnn
3 жыл бұрын
i agree!!!
@citehman
4 жыл бұрын
I am not a purist ... Just old. I hate high pitched whining vocals in punk. One Tom Delonge is fine. A thousand younger cousins of Tom Delonge is not. So before you choose your lead singer, do some homework and listen to Rancid, Social Distortion and The Clash and then... for God's sake... smoke some cigarettes.
@alexandrelanza1421
4 жыл бұрын
I guess blink did their homework just fine given that mark hoppus used to smoke a lot lol
@CAVFIFTEEN
4 жыл бұрын
😂Telling singers to smoke is like telling models to eat a ton of unhealthy food. I know there are great singers that smoke, but it’s not good for your voice or anything else at all😂
@OmegaRaptor2
4 жыл бұрын
While I don't listen to a lot of Pop Punk, I can really understand some of these critiques. Now that I'm seeing this, I'd like to hear you talk about 5 or more reasons why people hate Nu-Metal. I say/suggest Nu-Metal specifically because it seems to be the genre that gets the most hate by metal elitists and people in general who like Heavy Metal music.
@brennanterry5530
4 жыл бұрын
Bowling for Soup literally had a song called My Hometown.
@concertsintoronto
4 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of new pop punk bands that are pushing the boundaries a bit or are at least getting there. Stand Atlantic, Between You & Me, Trash Boat, and With Confidence all have great debut albums! I’m also super excited for mgks new album too :)
@Rgemma1019
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an episode like this for metalcore
@MrJordwalk
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Especially for Metalcore in the 2010s.
@Highrollinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bro-rm5xo
4 жыл бұрын
Me who hates pop punk: 👁👄👁
@farrahschneider
4 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh please do a 5 reasons why people hate K-Pop
@megmeg2784
4 жыл бұрын
There’s only one reason: the stans
@silent_cipher9308
4 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@silent_cipher9308
4 жыл бұрын
@@megmeg2784 hmm not really...
@farrahschneider
4 жыл бұрын
Meg Meg uh no not really there's plenty of others
@MrJordwalk
4 жыл бұрын
BabyMetal are neither Korean nor Pop.
@alex_flamer
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not really a fan of pop punk except for Green Day. I feel I've outgrown it as a genre and I do feel a lot of it is pretty simplistic. But I do respect it's cultural relevance and how it can be a vehicle to exposing people to more interesting and challenging styles of music.
@mrsaturn12
4 жыл бұрын
I get the last point but also hate it cause I've never liked the idea of hating something because of it's fandom. Cause let's be real...most fandoms for anything, be it a band, a genre of music, a tv show, a game, etc. are almost always toxic in their own way. Or at least have toxic people in them. Either way my only issue with pop-punk has been that some artists are just very derivative of others in the genre. That said you get acts like Say Anything or Brand New (sorta) or PUP or something that distinguish themselves
@jackgatti8643
4 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of pop punk, but I like some of it, mcr, greenday, paramore and Spanish love songs. Pop punk isn't as innovative for me, and I really dislike the whiny lyrical content about rebelling. Edit: Also the whiny vocals and campy hooks are absolutely annoying.
@cedriclhomosapienfunky9160
2 жыл бұрын
Well, this subgenre is pretty much whiny most of the time. When I listen to this, I can't stop thinking at nothing but The 2000s Disney Channel. Seriously, it's basically Nick live-action show soundtrack.
@harizonflamingice3167
4 жыл бұрын
I would be curious to see a reasons why about Post-Grunge since I feel that's the one genre I've never seen anyone defend. I wouldn't go as far as say I'm in love with it, but I feel there are also certain bands with that label that are better than some people give credit for.
@bowitboy6635
4 жыл бұрын
I just hate pop punk because well, it’s not punk. As I don’t mean that in a douchy elitist way. I meant that in a punk lover kind of way. The reason I liked punk rock was because it was fast paced and aggressive. Seriously, go put on pennywise. You’d be lying if you said it didn’t make you wanna jump in that pit and go bat shit. I liked blink 182s style of pop punk. It was still fast paced and you could really get a pit going. Now it’s so slow, jumpy, and just. It doesn’t sound like anything punk. That’s what I liked about Blink 182 was it was still punk! These new pop punk bands so absolutely nothing like punk. They sound like something you’d hear on a top pop station
@davidspeck8659
2 жыл бұрын
First, I don't want to split hairs about this but I don't understand why it's called Punk at all. All I can say is that "Pop Punk" is a term for an alternative rock style that started in the 90s. I don't like it because it doesn't have an edge. I just think it's boring.
@thebigbrain2760
Ай бұрын
Pop punk hate is cause of the rock gatekeepers. Dont listen to them.
@RanterInShades
4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Pop punk is part of my big 3 with prog and alt metal. I love the feel and the sound, and there can be some cool riffs and interesting progressions. That said, along with #5 being a thing with pretty much every genre, I feel like #3 is the only valid complaint to have with pop punk since I feel a lot of people within the community feel like you need to commit to a formula in order to truly be pop punk, and that's something I think holds the genre back from growing. One reason why Bayside is one of my favorite bands is because they don't fall into that trap. Outside of that, I always rolled my eyes at the purists and the stereotyping.
@JWinstonAU
4 жыл бұрын
Love pop punk. Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, Paramore, Green Day and more have been some of the most memorable bands I've ever listened to. Although I like experimenting with Alt music a bit more, even Indie: Pop punk has a place in my heart.
@rosakami65
4 жыл бұрын
Knuckle puck are my favourite pop punk band at the moment. 👏💕
@missstar219
4 жыл бұрын
yup
@CarlosHernandez-rl2wg
11 ай бұрын
Can't stand pop punk. Never did, never will.
@Pooky1991
3 жыл бұрын
I would say, much like with metal, the fans and gatekeeping is why some people hate the genre. Newer acts being shit on by fans who gatekeep what the genre is about or clang on to older acts so the genre never gets a chance to revive itself or evolve. Rap/hiphop gets the same treatment to an extent, but not as badly which is why we still see rap and hiphop in the mainstream with different subgenres appearing. Who knows, we might see a comeback
@OneHappyGuy182
4 жыл бұрын
First band named in the pop punk genre, stand Atlantic, thank god they are getting some recognition, they are so good
@stevenator7313
4 жыл бұрын
What music visualizer do you use to listen to music? I might need one
@artvjon
4 жыл бұрын
Kauna.
@thebigbrain2760
2 ай бұрын
Punk rock elitists disliked the shit out of it.
@skrrskrr
4 жыл бұрын
I mean, Pop Punk is what introduced me to Punk. I, actually, think it's my favorite genre of music. Yeah, most of it sounds similar with similar themes, but I kind of don't mind that. When I listen to Pop Punk, I usually know what I'm getting in to, even if I've never heard the song before. You can dislike that, sure, but I like some certainty in my life.
@SullyDunn
4 жыл бұрын
I used to hate pop punk but after you find the type on bands in the genre you like it can be one of the most rewarding...still there’s so much pop punk I can’t stand. But the gems are all you really need
@SKONJIE
2 жыл бұрын
Cuz it's not punk x 5! Call it something else!
@alwaysoctober8635
4 жыл бұрын
Bonsai trees eh? You give me something new, I give you something new. Junior Battles (very underrated act)
@Sipeo.
3 жыл бұрын
Sipeo - I’m Dead! New Pop Punk
@TGNtube
3 жыл бұрын
I like pop punk but prefer post hardcore
@sirlionheart4614
3 жыл бұрын
You probably drool over b182 and green day
@Chris-n8b4y
Жыл бұрын
POP PUNK ISNT PUNK
@stuartgrayis
4 жыл бұрын
Love me some pop punk
@PUNKinDRUBLIC72
2 ай бұрын
I love UK hardcore which is a lot different to US hardcore. Where do you rate Bad Religion? I love them,but are they punk or pop in your opinion?
@LazyGenerationBand
4 жыл бұрын
Every phase of pop punk is legit imo! Every new band that releases new music such as Neck Deep, Stand Atlantic, State Champs, etc, keep bringing value to the genre. Also, we're crossing our fingers in hope that MGK encourages a new pop punk mainstream revival 🤞 Note: We're a pop punk band from Portugal, in case you're interested 😋🙏
@hippieghostmyke9596
4 жыл бұрын
I think I’ve experienced way more gatekeepers then fan boys, but I definitely get it. I was never a die hard pop punk fan but I was for Easy Core so they kind of go hand in hand
@joselopez6990
5 ай бұрын
The thing is I have heard pop punk but trying to even listen to it made me call them the equivalent to whiny girls Also the minute Green Day badmouthed Nu Metal is the moment I said Phuk Green Day
@rilo7167
4 жыл бұрын
7:40: Punk in general
@eln2211
2 жыл бұрын
I don't recognize none of those new bands u mention earlier!!!😂😂😅😅, Those name sound like highschool names made up!!! Lol, these days I listen to my old bands on all genre of rock or metal and definitely jrock which is Japan metal/ alternative!!!!
@billygreenbean7119
11 ай бұрын
My three favorite genres are pop punk, hip hop, and metal, like Between the Buried and Me and Born of Osiris. Those genres sound the best out of a car stereo. Thats why hardcore punk is still loved but one notch below those in my taste. Punk purists don't phase me. They try to act like Minor Threat sounds better than Yellowcard but yea right to that. I just stay honest with myself. Pop Punk will always be number one to me.
@LambTAFFF
6 ай бұрын
Thoughts about Jeff Rosenstock and his old band Bomb The Music Industry?
@katiedelafuente
4 жыл бұрын
I could say that I do enjoy some punk rock, but I'm not really the biggest fan. With pop punk though, I've never been into the sound. To me, the only interesting thing to me in punk or any of the subgenres within it are the vocal melodies. Instrumentally, it's usually boring and lyrically, I've never felt interested. I'd rather hear a story, introspection, or just contemplation about the world. So if you can't write good melody, I'm not going to listen. And frankly, I can't stand most melodies within this genre. Maybe it's because I prefer the use of minor instead of major? I'm not too sure. But I've yet to find a pop punk band that can seem to actually write some good melodies. And why is it that most pop punk singers have some of the most grating voices I've ever heard? I don't really think that it's because they usually have high registers since my favorite singer of all time has a pretty high voice. And as a little sidenote, I thought it was kind of weird to see that pop punk is an oxymoron even though The Ramones which many would probably consider the first actual punk band had a song on their self-titled debut called I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend which has a pretty poppy melody. Oddly enough though, I actually love that song (and the whole record in general.) But either way, I'm not much of an expert at punk music; I'm more inclined to metal.
@hunger4369
4 жыл бұрын
The mean reason I don’t like pop punk is because it’s basically the complete opposite of punk. I’m a punker and when I heard about pop punk I was expecting like bad religion or black flag but maybe a bit happier. But no. It’s just slow boring riffs. Not hating on you if you like it. But I want my music to get my fired up and boom! Pop punk just, I don’t know. It’s just boring
@ceejluige4816
4 жыл бұрын
Just my advice to you, and I'll never speak up again. Drop the fake "announcer" bs. Its a huge turn off. I like the content, but the way you come off is fake af. Take it or ignore it. God speed.
@LUFC-yl2cd
4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I’m not a big fan, but I appreciate it
@Zimuahaha
4 жыл бұрын
I love a lot of pop punk bands! I don't get why people get so upset about other peoples' musical tastes.
@didyoufow9770
4 жыл бұрын
The genre is almost all not good. Blink 182 is decent but the only good bands I have heard that are pop punk are Green Day and MCR.
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