⚠️PLEASE NOTE⚠️ This series is about showing off the differences about the BASE ABILITIES of each class, and not about which power build is better. This does not include how a class performs by acquiring feats, multi-classing, or using alternative builds like Tasha’s since that is not in the base features of classes. Thank you for understanding and I still hope you enjoy the sketch ❤
@oluapfaraway
4 ай бұрын
That does explains a lot, but honestly, even without this notes it's still a very entertaining sketch!
@mr.stuffdoer8483
4 ай бұрын
So what you’re saying is DnD is automatically better since you get more than the base and can customize literally all you want
@terry_the_terrible
4 ай бұрын
Most of us are not mad. Just... disappointed. It's common knowledge that monks are in a bad situation in Dnd 5e but anyone who played BG3 monks know that they are so powerful that they could solo the entire game. It's common knowledge on all bg3 guides or forums but, well, the game is about playing your fantasy character. It's not about being jealous that another class is more powerful or crap on someone else's idea of fun. We could have a nice discussion on how the game balances DND by giving you monk items like a proper DM would. or how to change stats to play the game. or how having access to several feats is part of the base abilities too but the point remains that this video is wildly wrong and it cuts the funny that you're trying to sell. Your sketch is like saying "Sleeping is tedious, Am I right?" or "Sex is painful haha." Your audience is trying to relate but we're privately asking ourselves if the speaker knows what he's talking about. It's true, some conditions are required and some people might have a different experience but ultimately you're relying on something which most people don't find true or relatable. I get that you're probably not the one who wrote that sketch. And I get that BG3 is a huge game that a full time youtuber won't have time to play in full and so you have to rely on someone else. And hating the 5e Monk is a popular activity, sometimes for...reasons that have nothing to do with the game and it's hard to spot our own bias. And I completely understand that you're a busy guy who has to pay the salaries of several employees and chasing trends is how you keep everyone fed and happy. But that sketch is wildly untrue and therefore bad. You can't make good humour based on lazy research, especially if you're aiming at fans who care about the subject. At the end of the day, it was JUST a bad video. You don't need to justify it, or defend it or find increasingly convoluted ways to say that from it's correct from a very limited point of view. You can just move on and do something else. No one will be upset if you act like a regular stand-up comedian, never acknowledge your faults and hope that everyone forgets it for the next sketch. You're a comedy channel. People have short attention spans. It would probably have been ok if you didn't mention how wrong it was. But do fix your research. This video made me find excuses for you.
@drderpybeaver2190
4 ай бұрын
@@terry_the_terrible wow the fact you got this upset over a video and tried to take the I'm better than you approach is funny in and of itself. LMAO
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
Every class gets feats. If youre ignoring them thats bizarre because its impossible to level without them. And TB is a feat that only benefits monks and a very specific barbarian build. Just outlandish take to double down on.
@pekee3289
4 ай бұрын
"No we still miss 90% of the time" Tavern Brawler monk "Ummm no we hit 99% of the time and actually deal damage unlike 5e monk"
@ScrewBall105
4 ай бұрын
Now if only base monk could be that good without having to pump stats into strength and take a feat just to almost match a featless vanilla karlach.
@gumballz.9259
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, what kind of build is this guy using for his BG3 monks?!?
@menarg1549
4 ай бұрын
@@ScrewBall105 the tavern brawler monk 8 thief rogue 4 is the best melee damage dealer in the game
@charlesboots6508
4 ай бұрын
@@ScrewBall105Club of Hill Giant Strength (throw stool on top floor of Arcane Tower in Underdark. It breaks into a club.) Wield it in your offhand & any light weapon in your main hand. Equip the main hand weapon with another character. Congratulations, you've now set your character's strength to 19, left your main hand empty for unarmed attacks, & left your elixir spot open for Bloodlust, that gets you extra attacks & temporary hit points after every kill. That's all available in Act I. Open Hand Monk comes online earlier than just about any other build. The only "downside" is it makes the game insanely easy, insanely early. But if you want to steamroll your enemies, that's the way to go.
@Riftimmortal
4 ай бұрын
@@charlesboots6508 Full agree, just to add. Tavern Brawler Monk with str elixirs (but not necessary as stated) and 8mnk/4rog or 9mnk/3rog are probably the most insane melee damage dealers there are in BG3, not to mention their mobility and ability to prone and stun high value targets. Oh also all of this on a short rest gives them a lot of battle endurance early on.
@thefirstofthelastones8952
4 ай бұрын
Thief: Wait, I thought you were a pacifist!? Monk: Oh I am... As in I'm gonna "Pass this Fist" throught your skull!
@ethanfassler-md1rg
3 ай бұрын
That's clever
@SureAsHeckYeah
4 ай бұрын
The emotional roller coaster of vicious mockery… between two monks.
@MrMaradok
4 ай бұрын
Vicious Monk-ery
@Atalas5
4 ай бұрын
@@MrMaradok gdi
@kingleech16
4 ай бұрын
@@MrMaradok Dang it, you beat me to it!!!
@rattvisa
4 ай бұрын
The ranger finally gets the last laugh
@Blu_Moon_Owl
4 ай бұрын
Finally he deserve one
@NereidAlbel
4 ай бұрын
Rangers were good in 4e, and WotC took that personally. Pretty sure they took a dozen Nat 20's from the Nerf Bat, just for daring to be good lol
@michaeljebbett160
4 ай бұрын
My man!
@JnEricsonx
4 ай бұрын
@@Blu_Moon_Owl After seeing the 5e vs BG3 video....
@SilverFoxR
4 ай бұрын
The last laugh was Ranger getting revamped in Tasha's while Monk is still the overall worst class in 5e. At least Larian made Monks viable (and actually powerful) in BG3, something WotC has never done.
@omegaalphide2717
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, running around as a monk weilding a greatsword in baldurs gate 3 doesn't negate your ability to use flurry of blows, I've tested it
@James-kv3ll
4 ай бұрын
I think that was unintentional because I haven’t been able to use 2h weapons lately
@dallinadams9422
4 ай бұрын
It doesn't let you use your normal bonus action unarmed strike though. That's pretty much the only thing limited
@digifan02
4 ай бұрын
@@James-kv3ll I think that requires you to have weapon profiency so youd have to be a githyanki I believe (could be dwarf?). A base monk wouldnt just get that
@James-kv3ll
4 ай бұрын
@@digifan02 No I mean I tested it. Humans have proficiency with Halberds. My human Monk could not use a few of his Monk features while wielding a Halberd. But that wasn’t the case when the game first launched.
@matheusmterra
4 ай бұрын
@@dallinadams9422if you have proficiency, it does allow for unarmed bonus attack, that's how I played until I had Tavern Brawler.
@ShinOpaque
4 ай бұрын
Ive been having alot of fun with monk. Running across the battle field like Vegata, screaming "mineminemineminemine" As I stun people in my path. Flurry of blows RNG is on my side.
@shrimpisdelicious
4 ай бұрын
"Monk, no!" "MONK YES!!!"
@TheKoriKasai
4 ай бұрын
Time to start a new run and make Vegeta
@tigerwarrior1787
4 ай бұрын
@@TheKoriKasai Spiky hair and everything?
@TheKoriKasai
4 ай бұрын
@@tigerwarrior1787 If I can find the right hair, yes. I'll look for mods if it's there's not a base game one close enough
@killer_rabbit42
4 ай бұрын
Best part of playing a monk is talking to the cabbage vendor in Act 3 for a fantastic Avatar the Last Air Bender reference
@tigerwarrior1787
4 ай бұрын
MY CABBAGES!!!! (Secret TUNNELLLLL)
@tmage23
4 ай бұрын
I love that the serene, peaceful monks immediately start aggressively yelling insults at each other
@andrewdarby8843
4 ай бұрын
Tavern brawler monk in bg3, after drinking 1 elixir of strength and multiclassing thief rogue: "Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all of my enemies dying in 1 round"
@reaganmonkey8
4 ай бұрын
1:52 Good job editing a fight scene with just yourself.
@BeardedDragonite
4 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the wizard version where the BG3 wizard laments the loss of wall of force
@matthewmuir8884
4 ай бұрын
I can't wait for the Artificer version where 5th Edition Artificer walks into an empty room and wonders where his counterpart is.
@demon_blanc3
4 ай бұрын
Try to do a necromancer in bg3... It s sad just 1 undead and not 20 like in dnd
@BeardedDragonite
4 ай бұрын
@@demon_blanc3 I heard, sad indeed
@saphyrepyre
4 ай бұрын
@@demon_blanc3but does the infinite hp glitch with them work in bg3?
@andreifrolenkov513
4 ай бұрын
Then dies of 1d4 Force-Less damage?
@jordanvslife3533
4 ай бұрын
fighter one gonna be like 5E: still just bon- BG3: yea we still just bonk 5E: any subclas- BG3: no subclass changes we are perfect 5E: maybe no gameplay changes but you are way more of an as- BG3: hey I'm trying to keep this video monetized! 5E: I was gonna say asset BG3: no you weren't 5E: yea I wasn't
@ericgauthier7040
4 ай бұрын
Fighters can dual wield hand crossbows while holding a shield and a rapier. :D
@christopherg2347
4 ай бұрын
Didn't they add a lot of special martial attacks in BG3? Petty sure the fighter can benefit from them.
@maxtube1952
4 ай бұрын
@@christopherg2347 You mean the special weapon attacks or whatever they call 'em? Anyone with proficiency can use those, so technically that's not a fighter change, that's just a general gameplay change. AND THEY'RE ALSO ONCE PER SHORT REST WHICH I'M STILL SALTY ABOUT.
@Bartoc1988
4 ай бұрын
@@maxtube1952 I never understood that. Why not once per encounter? They already have other abilities having that.
@maxtube1952
4 ай бұрын
@@Bartoc1988 Still would've been annoying that way IMO, but yes that would've made infinitely more sense.
@wolfrayne3263
4 ай бұрын
I really enjoy that they are both shouting at eachother until one of them cries, these are two brothers we are watching argue 😂
@Calydor
4 ай бұрын
Well duh, they're monks.
@Kyra-qn3nh
4 ай бұрын
My tavern brawling max strength barbarian monk: *Laughs in the blood of his enemies*
@kylehalpern6695
4 ай бұрын
This video is Soo wrong
@matthewmuir8884
4 ай бұрын
He clarified in a pinned comment that he's not including tavern brawling or any feats in the video because the video is just a comparison of the base features of the class in each version. It's the same reason that the Ranger video didn't include the alternate rules from Tasha's Cauldron of Everything.
@Kyra-qn3nh
4 ай бұрын
@@matthewmuir8884 Okay. And? I wanted to make a joke about my OP build in BG3 that happens to involve the monk class. And since this video is partially about the monk class in BG3, I felt that this was a proper space for said joke. Do you disagree?
@matthewmuir8884
4 ай бұрын
@@Kyra-qn3nh Oh, sorry; I was wanting to reply to the first reply, which said, _"This video is Soo wrong"._ My mistake.
@Kyra-qn3nh
4 ай бұрын
@@matthewmuir8884 No worries, mate. Thanks for clarifying 👍
@KumaChrisVT
4 ай бұрын
Open Hand Monks in BG3 are actually good though... even without the Tavern Brawler feat my Monk is the highest damage dealer in the party... even more so after getting those gloves from the House of Hope. I almost never miss my Flurry of Blows, or attacks in general. Im also almost always at the top of initiative and the first able to actually get into the combat.
@chipzz86
4 ай бұрын
risky ring and use buffs and gear to off set the down sides
@oguzcanoguz5977
4 ай бұрын
That is rather because how Larian itemized than the Monk class, which is something every DM can learn from. Monk is a very solid class with narrative and ability design, they just lack raw damage. Give them a glove or a ring that adds damage and you fixed it. Tavern brawler monk just breaks the game though, even without proper items or potion of giant strengths. He almost never misses and hits hard.
@farrex0
4 ай бұрын
@@oguzcanoguz5977 Yeah, I have not played monk yet... but looking at how many awesome magic items they get, I am finding it very tempting. Only reason I have not done so, is because I want high charisma on my first playthrough. Later on, I will not play a charismatic main pc.
@crofoegbu6535
4 ай бұрын
@@chipzz86I used Corellon Grace staff, Cat Cloth and Bracers of Defense from Act 1 to Act 3 (plus those berserker boots that give you a super jump that knocks enemies prone) and was a god of the battlefield.
@chipzz86
4 ай бұрын
@@crofoegbu6535 the bone spiked boots do that but if you want to buff damage Boots of Uninhibited Kushigo is a good choice but advantage on a prone enemy is always good
@VivaLaDnDLogs
4 ай бұрын
Finding out Orpheus was a Way of the Four Elements Monk in the final act was....pretty disappointing.
@TheMeta141
4 ай бұрын
dude who's monk can kill Raphael with 1 turn has entered the chat
@dannattack4211
4 ай бұрын
Same with me. I did my lonewolf run as a monk and it wasn’t hard at all.
@user-hf9gx2xe8n
4 ай бұрын
I'm sad there is no mention of Tawern Brawler for BG3 version of the monk. That thing is so broken
@justadude7455
4 ай бұрын
If he included that, I think he'd also be compelled to include 5e optional features from Tasha's, which includes any (non-Heavy) weapon being a monk weapon, being able to 'undo' a miss with ki, free bonus action attack whenever you use ki for any action, etc. Maybe still not as broken as Tavern Brawler, but it would be less of a direct comparison and probably make the video less interesting...
@jfast8256
3 ай бұрын
@@justadude7455 Tasha's is supplemental. Tavern Brawler is literally a core feature of BG3. No one with even a quarter of a brain is running open hand monk without either A) Str or B) Str elixers AND Tavern Brawler. If someone is running a dex based open hand monk without tavern brawler, they are doing it as a challenge.
@justadude7455
3 ай бұрын
@@jfast8256 Yes, Tasha's is supplemental, but many features and mechanics introduced in supplemental books are considered essential by most D&D groups, and a fair few are base features in BG3. Tasha's especially, attempts to fix a lot of the screw-ups in the PHB - monks being one of them.
@faceless1434
3 ай бұрын
@@jfast8256 That's just.. not remotely true. Dex open hand monk is hardly a challenge run, its the intended way to play a subclass (although I can see how for someone familiar with the power of Tavern Brawler, choosing to not use it may feel like you're holding yourself back). You're spending too much time amongst players who care about optimisation if you are unaware of the massive group who'd be willing to do Dex Monk, not because of a challenge, but because the class has benefits for Dex/unarmoured builds and RP/flavour reasons. You can think they're stupid, but some of them will think you're stupid for trying to optimise something that doesn't need optimising. Both playstyles (optimising Vs not caring) can be fun and fun is the point of playing the game.
@jfast8256
3 ай бұрын
@@faceless1434 Look, I only play on honor mode. Open Hand dex monk.... is admittedly still playable, but you're just asking for a game over. Cutting my damage to 1/3 (early game) or 1/2 (late game) is just something I'm not willing to do. I do admit I always have my mind in "does this work in honor mode". And not using Tavern Brawler is just doubling the chance that you have a party wipe if you go open hand.
@charlesboots6508
4 ай бұрын
You have to be trolling. Open Hand Monk is arguably the strongest class in BG3, and comes online earliest.
@fuzziestlumpkin
4 ай бұрын
And oddly, the level 12 cap actually benefits the Monk. Even in 5e they aren't an awful option until they start seriously dropping off around level 10.
@theangledsaxon6765
4 ай бұрын
He’s just comparing base features. Monk in bg3 is only strong because of itemization, the ease of reclassing and multiclassing, plus broken feats
@cookieaddict5956
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I played open hand and it's busted
@timothyhouse1622
2 ай бұрын
Well, PURE class wise it is strongest but not the strongest build in BG3. Crit machine gun sorlock is just stupid broken.
@brocksells197
4 ай бұрын
I love how Larian decided that since Monk's abilities were kinda cheeks, they'd just add 1000 Monk based gear items into the game to choose from. Also gave them arguably top 3 dialogue options alongside Paladin and Bard
@bialy0045
4 ай бұрын
Amazing XDDDD "mom told you it was for the video game peorpuses"
@JzanderN
4 ай бұрын
This is the new "1st Edition VS 5th Edition" and I love it!
@vxprado
4 ай бұрын
While i agree with everything said, my rogue shadow monk run that was my first character, was where i had the most fun. I don't know, was just so cool, I felt like a ninja, infiltrating places and fighting in Shadows, and still keep myself well in a fight outside of shadows too. May not have been the strongest, but was really fun.
@adamcimrmann
4 ай бұрын
Isnt Open Hand tavern brawler monk one of the strongest builds in the game?
@DkWayne09
4 ай бұрын
Yes. its not even close. Other then Crit Paladin.
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
There's some builds that are hyper broken but TB comes online so early that its output across the campaign is lightyears ahead of most builds
@theangledsaxon6765
4 ай бұрын
With items, feats, and multiclassing, it is. But he’s not counting that, he’s just looking at base features
@roguebarbarian9133
3 ай бұрын
You’re basically claiming humans are good in D&D, while you’re actually thinking about variant humans. Neither base human nor base monk are all that great.
@ChicCanyon
3 ай бұрын
@@roguebarbarian9133 L
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4 ай бұрын
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@G.F.SF55
4 ай бұрын
Dude, check out thiev's subclasse in the two, in bg3 they get a whole ass second bonus action, just cuz of this bg3 thieves are superior ToT
@crazycrab11-go5tk
4 ай бұрын
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@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587
4 ай бұрын
You know... come to think of it, in all of my time playing dnd (22 full games/50 unfinished ones/9 One Shots) I've only seen Monk twice. In a one shot where a player picked it on a whim, and an unfinished game that the dm gave up on before we reached level 3
@James-kv3ll
4 ай бұрын
Guessing he hasn’t seen that Astarion Monk video yet
@Chessrook44
4 ай бұрын
Man, I remember when Monk was absurdly broken in videogames. Neverwinter Nights specifically.
@LastoftheMofreakins
4 ай бұрын
Yea... I want a sequel to that game. I lost hours of my childhood to NWN2 and all of its expansions. And that was because 3E monk was kinda malleable in a way that 5E monks aren't. And the way NWN was set up, monk was a perfect thing to multi-class with. Especially as a Red Dragon Disciple or Shadowdancer.
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
Itsbusted in bg3 as well. Its the highest single target damage dealer in the gameand completely breaks bounded accuracy at lvl 4 with tavern brawler making it only miss on 1s midway into act 1.
@andrewcarter9649
4 ай бұрын
@@ChicCanyon Assuming elixirs of Hill Giant Strength thats still "only" a +12 to hit, there's plenty of things in Act 1 with an AC of 15+
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
@andrewcarter9649 +12 at lvl 4 is outrageous and fundamentally breaks the game. There is nothing that can get remotely close to that. Failing to hit on 1s and 2s only at lvl4? Cmon. Only 2s if you're a halfling. Thats broken. And late game its spirals further. Or are purely objecting to the hyperbole?
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/yaSE1X-nsJanf6gsi=1ccR2xoqWUDqi9Er Just gonna leave this here
@Andrew-it8ll
4 ай бұрын
5e Monk:"You suck!" Menawhile 9/3 OH Monk/Thief with Tavern Brawler dealing THE highest damage in the game (and this time 90% of the time he does not miss) (You can tell, I'm not at all butthurt by their portrayal in the video)
@carmacksanderson3937
4 ай бұрын
I feel you, man 😅 Even non-multiclass OH Monk is incredibly busted
@holyrod2001
4 ай бұрын
I'm not even butt hurt, just openly mystified by how wrong this is.
@andrewcarter9649
4 ай бұрын
Blue Dragon Sorcerer9/Tempest Cleric 2/Wizard 1 is the highest damage dealer I've found with a nova turn of about 2000 damage on up to 12 enemies. Still, Monks are absolutely awesome in BG3.
@theangledsaxon6765
4 ай бұрын
@@holyrod2001he literally said that he is only comparing base features of the class, I’m not sure why so many people are surprised that he doesn’t consider multiclassing/itemization/feats to be base features when they’re not by definition.
@holyrod2001
4 ай бұрын
@@theangledsaxon6765 @theangledsaxon6765 looking only at base features the monk doesn't miss 90% of the time. It's still an amazing class in bg3. I didn't use tavern brawler until act 3 when I got that one magic item and it still was an amazingly fun experience. The sketch doesn't consider a) the literal class, or b) the experience of most players so, I'm openly mystified by how wrong this is because the question becomes who is this aimed at? My guess is other people who haven't tried the class in bg3
@Isaax
4 ай бұрын
You really gotta one of these for Sorcerers, with how crazy they can be in BG3 with most of the limitations on spellcasting being lifted off of them VS. 5e
@toecutterjones
4 ай бұрын
Monk is my favorite class to play in BG3, so underrated yet so op and fun.
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
Monk is absolutely an S class in bg3
@andrewcarter9649
4 ай бұрын
Before this video I didn't think anyone was underrating Monk, it's well known for being incredibly powerful.
@oluapfaraway
4 ай бұрын
Is it that strong even without feats and multiclassing?
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
@@oluapfaraway every class gets feats
@theangledsaxon6765
4 ай бұрын
@@ChicCanyonyeah but not every person chooses the same feats. Tavern brawler forces you to guzzle potions until late act 3, which a lot of people dislike since it feels a little too metagamey
@Brainiac-ninja
4 ай бұрын
YESSSSS! I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
@icetide9411
3 ай бұрын
Tavern Brawler BG Monk walks in and suplexes both of them through the ground
@carthagegaming5545
4 ай бұрын
I know you have the comment talking about not being about power builds and stuff... But this is the one where, at the end, he could have turned to the side and smiled, panned over and an angelic chorus as Tavern Brawler lights up.
@JPG.01
4 ай бұрын
Sadly this does not include items and feats or else BG3 monk would have been laughing at everybody involved. But with all the help that BG3 gave the monk it just really shows... That 5e Monk really needs it.
@menarg1549
4 ай бұрын
he hasn't taken the tavern brawler feat guys, calm down
@enderskunk7515
4 ай бұрын
even without that feat, monk is not that bad in bg3... dip a little into fighter and rogue and you got yourself a really solid dammage dealer
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
He's playing with his eyes closed just to dunk on chat
@oluapfaraway
4 ай бұрын
@@enderskunk7515 He's comparing the class by itself, without feats and multiclassing.
@holyrod2001
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, but even still, with just basic class, no cheesing, this doesn't feel like a monk which is a bit disappointing because the other ones do a good job of jokingly being accurate
@menarg1549
4 ай бұрын
@@oluapfaraway if that was the case fighters and barbarians would suck too
@bradencampbell464
4 ай бұрын
"We both suck" Had me grinning ear to ear 😊
@Funnyguy382
4 ай бұрын
Just get tavern brawler for way of open hand and invest a decent chunk into strength, flurry of blows almost always landed for me.
@horseheadlegman414
4 ай бұрын
Or chug strength potions
@oluapfaraway
4 ай бұрын
@@horseheadlegman414 Drugs can solve everything - by Every RPG player ever
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
Str should be your dump stat. Elixers solve your str needs and are available super early.
@oguzcanoguz5977
4 ай бұрын
Eehm, Monk in BG3 is literally the best DPS class without contest since extra actions only give you 1 attack. Four Elements does suck, but Way of the Open hand with Tavern Brawler will literally succesfully hit everything and hit it very hard each fucking time. And we all know monk hits a lot.
@ChicCanyon
4 ай бұрын
Its the best single target dpr
@maksymisaiev1828
4 ай бұрын
Well, I didn't find Four Elements as bad build. My full monk was one of the main DPS and had quite nice survival in the campaign.
@oguzcanoguz5977
4 ай бұрын
@@maksymisaiev1828 Well it is just underwhelming in comparison to other builds and does not shine in any situation in comparison to other classes. It has worse damage and survivability to a open hand monk, and is outshined by casters in magic casting. Even as a hybrid build, you can compare it to eldritch knight, which does shine as a tank or a CC machine.
@thebabycow
3 ай бұрын
"We still miss 90% of the time" Tavern brawler: "Allow me to introduce myself"
@silvercitytube
4 ай бұрын
Hmm, but i was sure Monk is hell strong in BG5. Like 60 damage per activation with no haste on lvl 6 is pretty nice... I don't think monk sucks in BG5 or DnD (Sobbs)
@Nerd704
4 ай бұрын
I think monk's strength has more to do with items they added and tavern brawler feat. Not changes that improve the monk like what Ranger got.
@Rukdug
4 ай бұрын
@@Nerd704 I mean the earlier ki points and the additional way to get ki points back is a nice touch.
@silvercitytube
4 ай бұрын
@@Nerd704 I play Agility monk but they add d4+WIS dagame on lvl 6 to unarmed attacks. So at one moment at act 3 lvl 9 my unarmed attack deals like 1d10+1d4fire+3+3+1d4radiant+something else. And with hit chance of 90% cos of +9 to hit. Dunno how this is weak
@sarrach94
4 ай бұрын
@@Nerd704 Yes the power comes from the feat, but besides throwing builds monks are the only class that uses it really well, so it might as well be considered a change to monks. Same with items that are practically monk-specific.
@CodeExorcist
4 ай бұрын
Open Hand Monk 8 + Fighter 1 + Thief Rogue 3 Tawern Brawler + Str 2 as feats to get 20 str Fighter for heavy armor and shields Thief Rogue for one more bonus action 6 attacks a turn with the cost of just 2ki and if you are out of Ki you got 4 attacks a turn
@Syrus_Priest
4 ай бұрын
you dont need heavy armor you can just go 8 open hand monk and 4 theif rouge wear the graceful cloth to get a free +2 to dex and putting you at 19 immediatly and by the time ur max level you can have an AC of 21 from unarmored defense and the cloak of protection you can dump strength to 8 and just keep popping potions of hill or cloud giant strength and + you get the unarmored movement back and tavern brawler becomes viable without needing to dump dex or wis for strength and heavy armor
@sarrach94
4 ай бұрын
I'd recommend going monk 6/fighter 2/rogue 4 instead. You don't really gain anything worthwhile on levels 7+ for monks, so if you get the second feat from level 4 rogue instead you have one level left to get action surge from level 2 fighter. Also, the optimal Tavern Brawler build dumps strength and uses elixirs, which lets you put more points into dex and wis.
@Oniphire
4 ай бұрын
Vanilla BG3 stops at 12 not 14
@sarrach94
4 ай бұрын
@@Oniphire My bad. It's meant to be monk 6/fighter 2/rogue 4.
@oliviadoyle3623
4 ай бұрын
They need to put in way of the drunken fist pronto
@brandonhughes179
3 ай бұрын
The back and forth of "You SUCK" is just priceless
@morrigankasa570
4 ай бұрын
I unfortunately don't have a D&D group to play with:( But I have created 12 different Lvl 1 Characters in case I found a group. 1 of them is a Chaotic Neutral Female Summer Eladrin Hermit background Monk planning Way of the Long Death!
@siriusleelost377
4 ай бұрын
Man, either people aren't building their monks right, or I was just damn lucky in combat, cause I had no issues when I changed Jaheira into an elemental monk. She damn well put Gortash on lockdown when I had her solo him lol
@Figorix
4 ай бұрын
Dude actually said monks in BG3 miss attacks XDDDDDDD Only if i do like double nat1 on my roll. Always advanatage, 99% hit chance. 60+ dmg per hit effortlessly, 200+ with effort. Cmon bro
@theangledsaxon6765
4 ай бұрын
He’s comparing base features only. Not tavern brawler or the insane amount of monk gear in the game that make monk broken
@y813lnJack
4 ай бұрын
Honestly i think the thing they did best for monks in BG3 is give them items THEY CAN ACTUALLY USE. I enjoy monks. I played in dnd and the dm did the all your stuff is missing stolen once and i was one of the few it did very little to. Which low level not bad but when we got to higher levels he had to bring items from older editions cause monks get so little to keep up. In BG3 my monk was easily doing roughly 30 points of damage PER PUNCH. And i could switch items to do specific damage. On top of all the undead in the game that juicy juicy bludgeoning damage was nice. I WAS sad about slow fall though
@brandonhughes179
4 ай бұрын
This is reminding me of the Weird Al Yankovic "Sports Song"...and now I want Weird Al to write a song about D&D
@vashanoid
4 ай бұрын
So uh does he know that tavern brawler is a thing?
@roguebarbarian9133
3 ай бұрын
He’s looking at base level monk, not monk-with-tavern-brawler-feat.
@_Bread-_-
4 ай бұрын
step of the wind is pretty busted too in bg3, makes jumping a free action, if you dash and end up going thief rogue for an extra bonus action dash, you can jump ridiculously far and make insane distance in a single turn.
@peterhansen6853
4 ай бұрын
I love this series. Got a Monk in my D&D 5e group and one in my current BG3 run. They are such a great addition with style, cool moves and/or great damage. Love it. Also the quiet monks just yelling at each other.
@uzelac1372
4 ай бұрын
He did it! :) No matter how bad monks are they will always be my favorite...
@robinallpets
4 ай бұрын
Dude monk in Bg3 Way of the Open Hand was my solo hard carry for Tactician... the class freaking slaps
@Daktangle
4 ай бұрын
"No one plays you." *Me, giggling about my Level 8 Open Hand Monk/Level 4 Thief Rogue, getting 3 Bonus actions a round, doing upwards of 69 damage per punch*
@sid1925
4 ай бұрын
Tbh open hand monks are straight up one of the best classes in the game along with draconic sorcerer and swords bard. Some pally multiclasses have a good argument, and so does the throwing thiefzerker. But man, if open hand isn't just stupidly powerful, especially when paired with ascended astarion and karlach with soul coins. They can straight up do close to 300 damage in a turn
@jadencrawford2772
4 ай бұрын
Open Hand Baldur's Gate 3 monk is a menace and I love it
@gastoncoscia5031
3 ай бұрын
Way of the open hand str with tavern brawler is so strong, well built is probably the strongest constant melee damage you can do in the game
@ShadeWolf09
4 ай бұрын
As someone who played a monk in a game with two other friends... theres was a reason I jumped between subclasses and STILL had more fun with my sorcerer hireling.
@AchanhiArusa
4 ай бұрын
Yes! Keep going. I wait (im)patiently for these videos.
@tuesday9670
4 ай бұрын
I love how the other pair ups are all "hey, you guys suck! Well atleast i dont..." And this one is just "RAAAAAAAAH! RAAAAAAAAH!"
@ConjureKarp
4 ай бұрын
Your work is Awesome! Take your time to make such amazing sketches!
@thelaughingrouge
4 ай бұрын
Monks in 3.5: "Amateurs."
@lordalex027
Ай бұрын
Other people pointed it out, but yeah it's crazy how easy it is to deal an absolutely silly amount of damage with open hand monk. Tavern brawler especially is nutty.
@R7AWSUM
3 ай бұрын
When getting into bar fights jumps your class up at least 3 tiers
@quietdistance8594
4 ай бұрын
I still enjoy tavern brawler monk mixed with wild shape from druid since at least in BG3 unarmed strike bonuses count for wildshaped creature attacks, which is a lot of fun.
@DParkerNunya
3 ай бұрын
"Oh and reducing it by 5 times our level is so much better!" "Yeah?" "I wasn't asking!!!"
@PatheticApathetic
3 ай бұрын
The key with 4 elements monk is to stay away from the abilities that are just renamed versions of spells. For some reason, they don’t trigger unarmed strike, but the unique ones do
@stateofhibernation
4 ай бұрын
I love your sketches on this series. Keep up the good work man ❤
@OrgangrinderYT
4 ай бұрын
love the shorts man!! I think i watched the vid on : In order of the oratrice mechanic danalis cardinal more the 30 time now 😛. Keep up the good work m8!
@Supreme-AMVs
4 ай бұрын
you've gotta do the warlocks comparison next
@matthewmuir8884
4 ай бұрын
BG3: "Our pact weapon uses our charisma modifier without us having to be hexblade!" 5e: "Awesome! Does our pact tome still give us three cantrips and two level 1 ritual spells from any class, plus the ability to add any ritual spells we find?" BG3: "Uh... no; the spells are pre-selected and we can't add more."
@mmaaoorr
4 ай бұрын
Monks in BG3 are legit overpowered with the right items. Show me another class that with an easily obtainable hill giant potions and the fire gloves from act one can deal more than 50 damage with one attack at level 5
@orangexlightning
4 ай бұрын
This was already looking to be my favorite one, and then ranger got the last laugh. *Chef's kiss
@sintanan469
3 ай бұрын
Was waiting for a tavern brawler monk sitting there behind all this laughing.
@TheForestChannel1
3 ай бұрын
This must've been made before they found out monks do the highest damage in a single round to a single target
@rex74t
3 ай бұрын
Aaaah my favorite class fighting with each other….beautiful
@anonymousturtle34
4 ай бұрын
This entire video reminds me of that one spiderman meme XD
@StapleCactus
4 ай бұрын
I feel the pain of missing 90% of the time with monk. I thought "Oh, I get to attack 5 times? Man, my luck can't be so bad that I miss all of them!" I did... many times.
@TheTdroid
3 ай бұрын
Tell me you're not using Tavern Brawler without telling me you're not using Tavern Brawler...
@Lichdemonz
2 ай бұрын
"No one plays you' Way of the Open Hand: Am I a joke to you?
@sethbrogen7952
Ай бұрын
Well with tavern brawler changing monks unarmed stries to str and things like elixir of bloodlust you get so many attacks per round. Got it up to 6 with ki resoration and always have a 95% chance to hit
@crusaderesper
4 ай бұрын
BG3 Monk was my highest damage dealer with Flurry of Blows. It always hit, too. I don't know what you're talking about.
@theangledsaxon6765
4 ай бұрын
Did you wear all the monk specific gear that bg3 gave out to buff the class? Did you multiclass? Did you use tavern brawler? If so, he’s specifically comparing base features and not accounting for these extra things
@crusaderesper
4 ай бұрын
@@theangledsaxon6765 Gear yes, but nothing else. No multiclass or tavern brawler.
@Zerum69
3 ай бұрын
Tarver Brawler Str-Monk: actually I have 99.9% accuracy and i think i can out-dpr the fighter now
@johnmoshos2435
4 ай бұрын
Wait, I think I missed some meta changes. Wasn't monk the most op build in the game with thief and tavern brawler?
@andrewcarter9649
4 ай бұрын
It's still one of the most powerful builds. Hell, even without TB there are Monk builds that can do over 100dmg per turn easy.
@d1nofactory
28 күн бұрын
Btw, the open head do like 20/40 damaga with 2punch... Or 60/120 dipend on object
@TheSzellin
3 ай бұрын
Not me watching this while prepping for a party of Four Elements Honour challenge run.
@WistfulRose
4 ай бұрын
Bg3 gave monks so many cool items that make them awesomely powerful. My first character was a monk in the game and Hope's gauntlets (I forgot what they are called) were the most amazing item ever.
@headshothendo
4 ай бұрын
Tavern brawler monk is the strongest class in BG3. You can get up to 38 bonus damage from gear per hit, and with cloud giant elixir you hit for a ton while being able to stun. Shadow monk is really good too.
@Damianweibler
3 ай бұрын
My players' monk kept dying, so I allowed his Deflect Missiles to do the same to melee attacks...now I need to homebrew special monsters just to take him out
@yepyep86
4 ай бұрын
*Me remembering 3.5e monk being a fucking menace and laughing at the extreme overcorrection*
@wurststar9023
4 ай бұрын
My Tavern Brawler Monk with 24 Strengh: I literally can only critical miss
@kinsan89
4 ай бұрын
Funny enough, my first playthrough was an Open Hand Monk Drow, and it's still my favorite class in the game
@WalkingNowhere
4 ай бұрын
My second playthrough was as an open hand monk... and it was the most overpowered thing I've ever played. Massive damage, bonus attacks, and after I multiclassed into thief? With a second bonus action I dropped the mythril golem down to half health without the hammer.
@chimera6485
4 ай бұрын
I.... was not expecting it to be this aggressive...
@jennyrengood9875
4 ай бұрын
In my first playthrough of BG3 (I'm on my third run now), I chose a drow monk and it's been my favourite character creation so far. I don't know why.
@glaucogamg
4 ай бұрын
So good to see Ranger is having some good time... After so much suffering
@tomcbye
4 ай бұрын
My Astarion 4 Thief/8 Open hand is the powerhouse of the party. 12 attacks a round each for 19-36 damage!
@akihikosakurai4013
4 ай бұрын
Why are people saying monks are bad? My guy can do up to 20+ dmg in a single unarmed attack. So unarmed strike + stunning strike + flurry of blows:topple can, in the best case scenario, deal 80+ dmg, stun an enemy and knock them prone in a single turn. Also the extra 3-6 radiant, psychic, or necrotic passives are amazing, especially when the enemy is weak to one of them. That's how my guy became the designated ghost puncher and undead slayer in act 2.
@akihikosakurai4013
4 ай бұрын
Oh I forgot ki resonation too. And since ki resonation strikes deal the same as a regular unarmed strike, you can use it in place of an unarmed strike and deal more damage when you use ki blast
@arandomfatbloke3352
7 күн бұрын
I'm actually running an unarmed, Way of the Fist, Tavern Brawler monk in BG3 right now in Honour mode. Because of the way I have built my character, I actually almost never miss, and my monk is my biggest (single target) damage dealer. But then again... I do have a slight addiction to Giant Strength elixirs. Currently Cloud Giant variety. 27 Strength is preeeetty insane. And 'cause I can reroll at any time, I just dropped my natural strength to 8 and rely entirely on those elixirs. 100+ damage per round is nuts.
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