Bang on. I wouldn’t even rank Sonic ‘06 in the top 5 worst Sonic games. Sonic ‘06 genuinely does a lot right and has so many fun elements - despite the many flaws it has. I would happily play through the game again, and then I look at Sonic Forces and simply can’t bring myself to. I would have to say my least favourite Sonic game is either Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric or Sonic Blast for Game Gear/MS.
@spectre2318
3 жыл бұрын
And people still bash 06 for being "the worst game ever made". Can't they look at Sonic Blast instead or something?
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed. There’s a bunch of other really easy and obvious titles I could have put on this list like a lot of the portable games, botched ports, or some of the really weird ones like Sonic School House (best game ever, I know), but I wanted to limit to major releases that put a decent dent in the series’ reputation. But if you do consider all these other miscellaneous games, Sonic 06 is probably truly a mid-tier Sonic game really only limited on the technical side. I thinks it’s probably the greatest travesty in the entire history of Sonic that it didn’t get the dev time it needed. Imagine a world where 06 was actually good. The entire “modern” Sonic landscape would be entirely different and I think for the better.
@spectre2318
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix I'd agree! 06 should've been a mid-tier game. It doesn't steep that low compared to the other games mentioned. But boy, the world would've been a different place if 06 was developed without constraints.
@MrBryanvarela
3 жыл бұрын
@@spectre2318 bro I love sonic blast and 06
@MarkCampbellTV
3 жыл бұрын
As a lifelong fan since the original, I rank the Genesis-era and Mania as the very best of the Sonic catalog but I still put Sonic 06 (despite all of the many justifiable complaints) as a palatable experience right up underneath Adventure 1 & 2, Generations, and Nights Into Dreams as Sonic Team's very best polygonal/3d titles. I liken Shadow and Sonic Heroes similarly as kinda but not quite. I appreciate parts of Unleashed and Colors sporadically but the rest of the games are not noteworthy IMO.
@KingdomHeartsBrawler
3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I think Shadow with a gun could've actually worked as a concept if it was done the right way. Instead of making him a violent edgelord in a "mature" setting, they should've just made him a Bond-style secret agent. They wouldn't have had to destroy Shadow's established personality to make it work, either. Just like Bond, Shadow is already cool, calm, collected, and focused. They could've either done that or brought back Gamma and made the game about him.
@chrisdelgado4621
3 жыл бұрын
How ironic that he would end up doing just that only a game later.
@firebroxp9784
2 жыл бұрын
Imo shadow wasn't very edgelordy until you start to reach the end of the dark story other than that, shadow was for the most part a wandering soul looking for his way, I mean just play any other story in that game (more so the heroic ones)
@segasonoki
2 жыл бұрын
No wonder it’s E10+
@Shadows_emerald
2 жыл бұрын
YESS
@shitanotosaurus
2 жыл бұрын
Omega would fit more because omega is already pretty violent
@raidoukuzonoha883
3 жыл бұрын
Shadow was never dark and brooding... he was an introvert
@WolforNuva
3 жыл бұрын
He was dark and brooding, what he wasn't was needlessly violent and edgy. Look back in SA2, on the few spare moments to himself Shadow just stands by the window of Ark, looking down at Earth and thinking back to his time with Maria. Being an introvert and brooding aren't mutually exclusive, hell I'd say it's more common for an introvert to brood.
@Nice_Person7379
3 жыл бұрын
He’s basically blaze but with a sadder backstory
@Omega-jg4oq
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nice_Person7379 Yow, that's true, they are so similar to each other
@ShadowDante7
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nice_Person7379 pretty much. But I would say Blaze is slightly nicer than Shadow
@Helicopter7
3 жыл бұрын
E
@StoutShako
3 жыл бұрын
It is SO depressing hearing what we could have had with Sonic Boom. If you've got time, listen to the amazing Wha Happun by Matt McMuscles. SEGA totally screwed the dev team by deciding it was going to be a Wii U exclusive title for some reason, and they had to get a whole new game engine and everything. Plus they actually made really genuine attempts at making creative lore and stuff for it, but it all just got shoved into the dustbin because there was no time and no money. It's SO depressing. If SEGA treated its dev teams better, both 06 and Boom could have been masterpieces. They just don't reward passion.
@URFTBOUND4LIFE
2 жыл бұрын
Sega wanted out of their 3 Sonic exclusive deal with Nintendo and Mania and Forces were not going on that console so they threw BRB under the bus to prevent getting sued by Nintendo had they refused.
@dominiclowe3640
Жыл бұрын
I have to know more what it was supposed to be I always hear about the potential of sonic boom if it had time but for me I don't see that for me boom had too many problems with it that if given time would still fail one of my biggest issues with boom was the horrible characterization
@Star.6739
Жыл бұрын
No, they had to mess around with Cry Engine to get it to work on Wii U (I think, sorry I only warched Splash Dash's video)
@polocatfan
9 ай бұрын
didn't the dev team literally lie to Sega about being developers for naughty dog or some shit? no sympathy.
@Hynotama
8 ай бұрын
That horrible game can go burn in a trash bin. It has horrible art direction, horrible writing and horrible characterisation. That game is a parody of actual Sonic games, making Sonic Colors look like Shakespeare by comparison, and that’s all on BRB. My guess is that Sega saw it was gonna be a bad and divisive game and just threw it under the buss for the Nintendo exclusivity deal.
@MarkerMurker
3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 4 Episode 2 was literally a step up in every way though, especially the physics...
@ghettokage6104
3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@saifbakrsadoon
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic the hedgehog 4 episodes 1 and 2 are fucking trash
@kakuzugoated873
2 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't, it came after Unleashed. Even tho it's 2d, it didn't improve any linear movements
@MarkerMurker
2 жыл бұрын
@@kakuzugoated873 A step up from episode one. I didn't think I'd have to clarify something like that.
@kakuzugoated873
2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkerMurker it's a very vague statement, so I can see exactly why you would have to.
@AB-cj3mp
3 жыл бұрын
Never played Lost World but I actually like the story. (Not to be confused with the writing.) It's really the only time in the series we see conflict and trust issues between Sonic and Tails, and it shows Sonic's hastiness as a character flaw that needs to be dealt with.
@ninjasonic2270
2 жыл бұрын
Read Archie Comics Read Archie Comics They showed their devolving trust issues in a way better way then lost world
@Laxativeshater69
2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@yay29823
2 жыл бұрын
Ok tails was annoying in Lost World
@extremmefan7305
Жыл бұрын
As a Tails fan, this is kinda insulting actually. He does a complete 180 from seamlessly agreeing with Sonic that Eggman kinda sucks to suddenly saying Sonic trusts Eggman more than he trusts him. Sonic's hastiness is definitely shown, but it's never really given as much thought; it's never pointed out to him, and instead not falling for Tails's whining is what Sonic apologizes to him for at the end. Unfounded trust issues and a character flaw that are not pointed out... are hardly better than 06, which literally has Silver's arc basically being the latter (but replace hastiness with naivete) but much better executed (despite the script still needing a revision or two), and does not need the needless drama of the former to actually have stakes.
@mehiloll
7 ай бұрын
I have a love-hate relationship with LW’s story. There are some good parts but some bad. However that part where Eggman “died” was cheesy but cool
@jbru9576
3 жыл бұрын
“There’s no momentum mechanic like pretty much every game before this” Bruh there hasn’t been a momentum mechanic since Adventure 2
@haywardbarrows5906
3 жыл бұрын
4:46-4:53 On top of that, considering this is a list of games worse than 06, it should be critical that comparing Shadow's character in that game to the this predecessor, it is SHOCKING how different they are in quality. That wouldn't be saying much but believe it or not, the version of Shadow from 06 is regarded by fans as the best version of the character in the entire FRANCHISE.
@BrandonScott-mi5pz
4 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT WORK. CHAOMIX
@dylanbaron__
3 жыл бұрын
When I came here I expected you to mention games like Sonic Drift, Sonic Labyrinth, but you actually had the guts to name mainstream games Good job
@WaterKirby1994
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 was better than most 2010s Sonic Games & ironically I would rather replay Forces than Colors. At least Labyrinth, Spinball, Tails SkyPatrol, & Drift were obvious cashgrab spinoffs made on older hardware in a more primitive time for the gaming industry. That's kind of why we give the awful Sonic 1 (except the Whitehead & Jam versions) a pass.
@dylanbaron__
2 жыл бұрын
@@WaterKirby1994 100% agree with those mainstream game opinions lmao
@WaterKirby1994
2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanbaron__ Are you referring to Forces being bad simply because the 2010s Direction for Sonic was bad? With Sonic 06 being better than nearly all of the 2010s Games in the Sonic Series? Or are you referring to how Sonic 1 was kind of bad & those older games actually were made in an era with lower standards? 8-Bit & 16-Bit Expectations being lower than later console expectations.
@dylanbaron__
2 жыл бұрын
@@WaterKirby1994 06 is a good game, Forces is more fun than colours and yeah it would’ve been gas if it was made 10 years earlier
@darkcat6530
2 жыл бұрын
@@WaterKirby1994 how is colors bad?
@slimcognito383
3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem for Shadow is that it was too out left field for a Sonic game. That being said however I can’t help but love that game. I don't mind the branching path, having to replay Westopolis to get the multiple ending or the guns
@artistanthony1007
3 жыл бұрын
Have you played Last Story? Because that's how it ends and I put together a video showing why it does.
@ItsSplonk
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel bad for Sonic Team, especially with the first game on the list, cuz it shows they did their research. They conducted serveys and everything, as well as making the conclusion that Sonic wouldn't be the right character to wield a gun, so they were clearly trying to make something that wouldn't deter the fans. They just fucked up somewhere along that road, and now we have Shadow the Hedgehog
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
3 жыл бұрын
We DO NOT TOLERATE Shadow the Hedgehog slander in this household
@goku9569
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmm... I agree!
@icee1683
3 жыл бұрын
It's okay/mediocre, if not bad
@lyrik2473
3 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, It's so bad that's genuinely entertaining.
@tl1882
3 жыл бұрын
and forces, lost world and 4
@jeamsis
Жыл бұрын
I would die defending that game it’s one of my favorites but bestie it’s so so bad we know shadow deserves better 😔
@goofball2237
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah those games really are worse than 06, I'd rather play a glitchy mess that tried to advance the franchise than a game that plays it safe and ruins other things the older games established.
@Michael_Afton40
Жыл бұрын
Based take
@TheKabuto90
8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't and I don't know why anyone would. Though maybe that's just a result of me having actually played 06 and physically being stopped from progressing at multiple points due to gamebreaking bugs.
@UNSTABLE_Silver
5 ай бұрын
Wth is that pfp 😭 I cant
@sokax6079
3 ай бұрын
@@TheKabuto90 it's called high functioning autism and that's what most sonic fans have. how can anyone enjoy a game where you can die or get softlocked at any point instead of a game you can actually play??
@SecureInMyHead
2 жыл бұрын
Recently, I’ve played Shadow the Hedgehog for the first time and… gameplay wise, there’s nothing wrong with the (GameCube) game. The only gun necessary to progress in the game is the wall -mover thing and the only automobile needed was the jumper to reach certain platforms. And story-wise it does retcon a couple character moments he had in Sonic Heroes, but only SOME of the alternative storylines. You can explain how he’s edgy without the guns all you want, but you’re wrong. For an amnesiac that only remembers the death of a little girl and being told his origin by 4 different people, Shadow seems to handle it pretty well. Conclusion: Shadow became edgy only when the current voice actor declared him edgy.
@MechaKnuckles
2 жыл бұрын
Finally a good comment in defense of Shadow. It might have its flaws but it's definitely not worse than 06, nor as "edgy" as everyone says it is.
@DemonDethchase
3 жыл бұрын
Ah Sonic Forces, to think instead of a cheap marketing gimmick and that THING will a silly, little toy gun we could have had the other characters playable, again free to use their own skills, and no stuck with the wisp gun because that would be stupid. Plus Classic's inclusion, with his exclusive 2D stages, becomes even more redundant when you consider that both Modern Sonic and the OC have 2D sections of their own. So again, why was he there? Though why was there that big giant sandworm in Green Hill if we didn't fight it? Why was there those Death Egg Robots in the city, if we didn't fight them? Why was there those kaiju Infinite monsters in Metropolis if we didn't fight it? What's the point of having these things as merely set dressing when they could be used as boss fights? Same goes for Shadow and Chaos and they weren't just hidden away in the background, what with being part of Infinite's Ruby Phantom group. Also with saying about having the other characters playable again, it'd also help expand the story alot, rather than being stuck with a couple of mutes. Like just imagine if Tails was playable again - for the first time in 14 years - we could have had this! During the fight against Infinite rather rather than having his tablet thing he'd be racing to met Sonic with the Chaos Emeralds. To help turn the tide in the war against Eggman. But by the time he gets there he finds Sonic fighting Infinite and its not going well. Filled with a surge of emotion, seeing Sonic in such a bad way, Tails lets out a scream and goes Super (god, could this be anymore Dragonball like?). He puts up a good fight against Infinite but it's not enough as he burns himself out unable to beat him. Sonic would have gotten enough time to catch his breath to save Tails before Knuckles swings by to get the fox cub out of there on Sonic's instructions. Word later reaches the resistance that Sonic dead and Tails loses it. He runs away and spends the next six months wallowing in despair until one day while looking for a place to hide during a thunderstorm he finds himself in his old workshop, and inside it the original Tornado, Sonic's plane. Despite being depressed for the past six months, the sight of the bi-plane puts a spark back in Tails' eyes as he tries to get the plane back in the air, but due to his mental state not being the greatest he can't do it. He looks at the set of keys Sonic gave him for the plane and after remembering what happened to Sonic he breaks down into tears feeling guilty that he couldn't save him. Chaos then appears which scares the young fox cub, much like in Forces, and when he attacks Tails the fox cub makes no real effort to defend himself because his confidence has been shattered and he feels he can't fight anymore. After being smacked about by Chaos for abit, he sees him turn his attention to the Tornado and begin attacking it. Tails' eyes widen in horror not wanting to see the plane, his only connection he has left to Sonic be destroyed, and that forces him to get back to his feet and fight. After driving Chaos away he feels a weight's been lift and manages to get the Tornado running again so he can get back home to the resistance base and help the others. The ofcourse word would get that Sonic is alive and Tails go storm the prison to save him, after doing a few other missions while building his confidence back up. Also as well in the time leading up to that, with fighting the war against Eggman, in Forces, it wouldn't have been going so well and through running and hiding for a while it'd start to take it's toll on Tails' metal state. Hence why he's freezing up while facing regular Egg Pawns he would have smashed no problem, without breaking a sweat. But after Infinite "kills" Sonic, it proves to be the straw that broke the camel's back, hence why he's not as vengeful as he was in SA2, after seeing Eggman "kill" Sonic, by ejecting him out into space in that pod. Sorry if I've ranted too much, but Forces really annoys me, especially considering how badly they handled Tails! He should have been allowed to do things, instead of being stuck trying to get Classic the OC over, not even allowed to smash a single robot at the start of the game, or take part in the fight against the Ruby Phantoms.
@syweb2
3 жыл бұрын
While I do think there was a better way to execute the custom character idea (rogue Robot? Just better writing and gameplay?), II otherwise agree with most of what you said here. What if we got a Tails vs Chaos boss fight?
@DemonDethchase
3 жыл бұрын
@@syweb2 that's what really should have happened, Tails vs Chaos. I did see a video recently talking about Classic and it made mention of that scene with his appearance saying not only was Tails made to look weak but so was Chaos as well, what with him being taken out in one hit purely as a means of making this bad tribute act look strong, even though Sonic himself couldn't beat Chaos 0 in one hit back in the day.
@subjectnivleis7572
3 жыл бұрын
They didn't even handle the ruby correctly it says in the manual of sonic maina that the phantom ruby can rewrite reality (op as hell I know) and instead we get holograms wtf
@StoutShako
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't really expect a full fledged fanfic in the comments, but I suppose I should have.
@eatingthesnowinicecapzone
3 жыл бұрын
How is this long comment not hidden under a "Read More"?
@reigndoesthings
3 жыл бұрын
While I agree with your points about the problems with Rise of Lyric, I am a bit of an apologist for it. It had a lot of potential, and I think it could've been amazing if BigRedButton had been allowed to make the game they originally envisioned, rather than being forced to change the gameplay and tone, as well as rush to get it working on the WiiU. That all doesn't change the fact that the product we got is a mess, though. However, one thing I will defend about the game is the animation. The character animation in Rise of Lyric is the best in the entire series. The in-game animations have a fantastic flow to them, as well as an excellent sense of squash and stretch (something the series should definitely embrace, as it does wonders visually), the idles and other miscellaneous animations are more full of life than anything else, the cutscenes have excellent body language, and better facial expressions than anything ever in a Sonic game. The game may suck, but the animation is on point
@pixigirldust
Жыл бұрын
I agree, from what I heard, it actually had some potential, and the dev team genuinely tried making it a good game cause they had passions for it
@dominiclowe3640
Жыл бұрын
I have to know more what it was supposed to be I always hear about the potential of sonic boom if it had time but for me I don't see that for me boom had too many problems with it that if given time would still fail one of my biggest issues with boom was the horrible characterization
@dominiclowe3640
Жыл бұрын
@@pixigirldust I have to know more what it was supposed to be I always hear about the potential of sonic boom if it had time but for me I don't see that for me boom had too many problems with it that if given time would still fail one of my biggest issues with boom was the horrible characterization
@retrocar7761
3 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with all these choices, I think 06 is still a mess, but atleast it was still some what fun to play.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Oh don’t get me wrong, 06 is a train wreck in a lot of ways but it has so much more passion than most of the games on this list. You can tell the devs wanted to make something amazing but just didn’t have the time.
@retrocar7761
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix I completely agree, I have played a lot of 06 and had quite a bit of fun with it, i can tell they actually tried, I can't say the same for Forces, that game was just lazy.
@ivonnesaysmiau
3 жыл бұрын
P-06 is even more fun
@jelama5775
3 жыл бұрын
And funny With The Glitches
@thomashost272
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix my only beef with 06 is how they handled they final story, everything leading up to the Solaris incident was great, Story wise, the Music was great, the levels looked amazing despite the gameplay trying to screw us over the whole time, and if they had moved the mouths more to the side of the face for the Sonic cast, it would have the best graphics of any Sonic Game to this date, and Mephiles is STILL the best Sonic Villain outside of the Archie's. Like, I won't say I like '06, but I at least know it's not as bad as most of the games here, and when I think about it, the only game I really liked on your list was Shadow the Hedgehog, between the music, the CGI Cutscenes being AMAZING, and Jason Griffith's Shadow voice, it wasn't good, in fact in my stand-alone comment I say it's awful, and list ways to make it better, but it was still my second Sonic game EVER, and it's why I love Shadow, and why I HATE how Shadow is portrayed now. At least in Shadow the Hedgehog he had a REASON to be more edgy than he normally should be. I'd be salty as hell too if I was being blackmailed into gathering rocks for some random alien while having next to no memories at all, being chased by all these annoying fools, while also being wrongfully hunted down for a crime I didn't commit, and having my only memories being of my closest friend dying in front of my eyes.
@LiveHedgehog
3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 4 WAS a cheap mobile attempt at a Classic Sonic game. It wasn't intended to be Sonic 4 at all.
@gommodore6441
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Sonic Free Riders isn't on this list.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
It felt a bit too spin off-y to include but yeah I definitely agree lol.
@gommodore6441
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix kzitem.info/news/bejne/2aqam4qXooWqaH4 Since you were talking about a lack of a Chaos boss fight, you might enjoy this.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
@@gommodore6441 Yep, this mod is sick. Saw it when it released a few weeks ago.
@robbiewalker2831
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix Sonic Free Riders is bad, because not only were the controls bad, but also the story had no connection to Zero Gravity's Story.
@starrynight2963
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix wait isn't sonic and the secret rings a spin off?
@lilsoonerfaninmo
3 жыл бұрын
The only issue I have with your Forces point, Forces is far from the first game that had short stages Hell, Colors had more stages that you can blink and theyre over
@ThatOneMinecraftian
5 ай бұрын
Forces like colors fits 2-8 levels into one level, making all these levels very, VERY short, they basically end before they even made it halfway.
@ChannelPup
3 жыл бұрын
I think I would also add Sonic Free Riders. Horrible use of motion controls. My issue with Sonic 4 episode 2 was the waiting around. They have bosses spend like 30 seconds introducing themselves. Great video.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate it, I also love your content! I kind of thought about doing Free Riders but I tried to limit it to just “major” release games. There’s a TON of spin-off games that I could have easily included on this list honestly. Maybe for a possible sequel to this video? 👀
@ChannelPup
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix For sure, and I'm sure there's some Game Gear Games that have probably aged like Milk that could be looked into. Just last night I tried to play Sonic 2 Master System...emphasis on tried.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChannelPup That was actually my first video game ever haha. It’s baaaaaaaad. 😰
@Ninjago-News
3 жыл бұрын
What about sonic o6 project
@ChannelPup
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix It's just needlessly difficult.
@dragonick2947
3 жыл бұрын
I think Sonic 4 Episode 2 is too good to be on this list, or anywhere near it. The game improves upon the music, being less ear-grating, the supposed "art style" of the first game, now being in full 3D, the physics, feeling more realistic and the Zones, all standing apart from the previous ones.
@spectrum_pyromancer3359
3 жыл бұрын
Hang On, Sonic 06 Did a lot of good things like the 3 storyline’s with sonic, shadow, and silver, good level design, a pretty good story, lots of playable characters like tails, knuckles, rouge, omega, blaze, and Amy, also sonic games these days have barely any other playable characters, 06 also follows the style of SA1 and SA2 with gameplay, sonic 06 was also a very ambitious game, and sonic 06 even got a pc remake, and now even a mobile remake with kingdom valley, so it seems if the fans are recreating sonic 06 and not games like unleashed, well 06 must be loved by a lot of fans, so yeah i dunno why people hate sonic 06 because SA1 and SA2 had a lot of glitches as well, I would even say SA1 is more broken then sonic 06, but this is just my opinion.
@RSTLegacy
3 жыл бұрын
As long as you keep it as an opinion.. Seriously i never had any glitches occur on Sonic Adventure games, but i did suffer some of the annoying glitches on 06.
@dave-xg5rd
3 жыл бұрын
did you play it or did you watch a review of the game
@spectrum_pyromancer3359
3 жыл бұрын
@@dave-xg5rd ive played the game alot actually
@dave-xg5rd
3 жыл бұрын
@@spectrum_pyromancer3359 i finished the game and i never encountered any glitches i didn't go for
@MeeraRustshieldSystem
3 жыл бұрын
Fans are recreating Unleashed though See the Unleashed project mod for Sonic Generations
@Mentleif
3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Secret Rings myself. I don’t feel having a different gameplay style made it bad, and I had a lot of fun with it. That said I probably need to get around to replaying it and seeing if it still holds up. Also, surprised that these were all modern Sonic games. There are definitely a few Classic games that are worse than 06. Not the main Genesis 3, of course, but some of the ones that were ports or had an unnumbered title
@WaterKirby1994
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic 1 (except Jam & Whitehead versions) was way worse than 06, although like most Classic Games it gets a pass thanks to being made in a primitive time for the game industry. Also Shadow & Secret Rings haven't been Modern for some time being considered 4kids Era Games these days.
@YakkyMissy
2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@Falkriim
Жыл бұрын
Gotta agree
@promiseomiponle810
3 жыл бұрын
5:13 wtf?! Mission failed because he smashed into a pot?!😂😭
@andreasmeelie1889
3 жыл бұрын
That’s because it was a challenge mode to not break pots so what’s so wrong with that?
@promiseomiponle810
3 жыл бұрын
@@andreasmeelie1889 uh I didn’t say anything was wrong with that. I just didn’t know it was a challenge and was shocked because I thought it was a glitch or something lol
@Starry_Horizons
3 жыл бұрын
Fucking LMAO
@beego9131
3 жыл бұрын
1. some people have rather different opinions 2. it is sadly only the wii remote to blame 3. I agree with ep 1, disagree with ep2 4. I agree 5. I disagree 6. I agree
@spence8507
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of your opinions
@Serious5GamingS5G
2 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree with your opinions
@beego9131
2 жыл бұрын
@@Serious5GamingS5G what is your Opinions would be?
@KillyRR
2 жыл бұрын
Opinions are worthless what counts are facts but the Sonic community doesnt like those. How else can they defend trash like 06. People who have no arguments always say "in my opinion" and its very annoying. Im not saying you cant enjoy it and have fun with the game btw theres nothing wrong with liking and enjoying a shitty game. Its always the same with most gamers. "I like it so its good, i dont like it so its bad". Thats such a shallow way of judging games. F.e. i hate SA2 but its a good game, i cant deny that.
@spence8507
2 жыл бұрын
@@KillyRRwell ok 🤓 ( wahh I can't believe people say "my opinion" when talking about why they like a game)
@JaKaine
3 жыл бұрын
The sonic forces story was so bad.
@ytwhattup6128
3 жыл бұрын
I think there were some awesome ideas, just executed like shit.
@noctysm1530
3 жыл бұрын
EGGMAN TOOK OVER THE WORLD but he didn't really do anything with it
@ytwhattup6128
3 жыл бұрын
@@noctysm1530 lmao nothing even really changed after sonic loses to eggman
@rubymoon72
3 жыл бұрын
Just classic sonic ruined the story
@NonStopKnocks
3 жыл бұрын
So is the gameplay
@backslash_bks
3 жыл бұрын
Come on how could you forgive Sonic Blast (not sonic 3d blast) for existing? Sonic Blast and Sonic Labyrinth deserve to be in this list
@spaized8191
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they weren't here, very odd but I guess he only put modern games.
@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-
Жыл бұрын
We don't count the handheld games , idiot .
@backslash_bks
Жыл бұрын
@@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- well that's a rude way to put that
@pkthefirst1524
3 жыл бұрын
Ok guys, let’s talk. If you think that Sonic 06 is the worst video game of ALL TIME, your REALLY need to play more video games. It isn’t even the worst Sonic game.
@just_sonic
3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I think Sonic 4 Episode 1 and 2 are good games.
@endrendstudios7665
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this
@TexTheGuy
7 ай бұрын
It's only problem is the physics
@xGamerBlake
3 жыл бұрын
As much as I constantly gush about our lovable blue blur, even I feel that SEGA has become very distant from the key strengths to Sonic over these last few years. Though Sonic '06 may be a glitch-fest, at least you can see sparks of a familiar passion, if only a few of them. While I'm mentioning glitches, let me just say that these do not always make or break the games. Some can actually be quite healthy to the longevity of the series. I need only point to the existence of combos in fighting games to illustrate my point: these were considered a "glitch" when they were discovered in the first Street Fighter game, but rather than discard them entirely, Capcom adopted that feature for future titles, as did other developers. Unless some glitches have spiraled into disasters that must absolutely be addressed, your first priority when making a game should be the accessibility factor. And while I can't quite judge on Sonic Boom as I have yet to play that (and I eventually will for the sake of content), some of the other games you listed are woefully lacking in that area. Then there's the reward factor that comes from mastery of the game, and I have yet to feel a sense of satisfaction in any of the more recent titles (that aren't Sonic Mania). Oh, and you aren't alone. I acknowledge Shadow the Hedgehog's shortcomings, yet it's *kinda* one of my favorites. I could say more, but this comment is already turning into a novel. Suffice it to say, I feel you and I could have a lot of discussions over this subject. I've just subbed. Keep these vids coming!
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, excellently said! Totally agree.
@EpicB
3 жыл бұрын
Given that Sonic Mania was basically an official fan game, you could take it as an implicit admission that Sega realizds fans know what makes Sonic work better than they do.
@aruce9
3 жыл бұрын
I came to this revelation as of the latest sonic central. Sega doesn’t really understand sonic as of late, where’s his attitude. Movie sonic I felt captured what made sonic sonic. He had a combination of snark, attitude and heart.he felt vulnerable yet confident like a 3 dimensional character. Modern sonic from colors onward doesn’t feel vulnerable and has a constant layer of snark. No real attitude like adventure sonic. Same goes with robotnik, movie robotnik has a great mix of the cartoony robotnik that we have seen with a more serious robotnik from satam and both adventure games. The new robotnik just feels like a cartoon character with wacky evil schemes, where is the seriousness, the threatening aura. Where is the robotnik who blew up the moon, the robotnik who unleashed chaos, the robotnik who roboticised all of mobius
@owtheedge3956
3 жыл бұрын
BLJs also helped the longevity of sm64
@CompletelyWild04
2 жыл бұрын
@@EpicB No wonder Mania is so unplayable.
@XentinelSB
2 жыл бұрын
How dare you call Shadow the Hedgehog worse than Sonic 06? That game was my childhood! EDIT: Honestly, Sonic 4 Episode II is underrated.
@promiseomiponle810
3 жыл бұрын
Ngl you’re the first person I’ve seen say episode 2’s physics are worse than episode 1’s. I don’t see it at all tbh
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
I went into Ep 2 knowing people generally consider the physics to be better only to be shocked that they honestly felt less responsive than Ep 1. The homing attack doesn’t give you instant acceleration like in Ep 1, which was a cool and quick way to get some initial speed.
@charliekahn4205
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix I consider it to be an improvement to the game's balancing in light of Tails' inclusion in the single-player mode. They knew the tag-team moves made the game easier, so they didn't want it to be too easy.
@ExtremeWreck
3 жыл бұрын
And then there's Sonic Jam on the Tiger Gamecom.
@NvanRoblox
3 жыл бұрын
Please don’t talk about that 😞
@thefollower2933
3 жыл бұрын
That's probably the worst sonic game ever made.
@everydaywalk7417
3 жыл бұрын
not gonna lie. I'm still chose 06 than Forces to play
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Hey that’s fair. I still play it from time to time. I’m actually working on getting the platinum trophy for it now.
@everydaywalk7417
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix Oh Cool!,Hope you can get that Trophy 👍
@SmoothSushi
3 жыл бұрын
“It would be inappropriate for sonic to have a gun” Me in smash ultimate: *WHEEZE*
@williamcollis455
3 жыл бұрын
0:41 Dude, Sonic 06's glitches are not the reason why that game is awful.
@neovintage8557
3 жыл бұрын
Right, for me, I love glitches in games cuz you can clip and break the game 😆
@hydrochloric007
3 жыл бұрын
The only things that ruin 06 for me are the bad physics and glitches. Level design, combat, moveset, artstyle, even Silver's gameplay are really fun for me. Definitely deserves a remake, those physics really sour it for me...
@malachijordan7975
3 жыл бұрын
@Welp your comment is also just another opinion
@CrispyFrise
3 жыл бұрын
The only reason why sonic boom gets a pass in my book, is because the studio who worked on the game kept getting fucked over by sega.
@dominiclowe3640
Жыл бұрын
I have to know more what it was supposed to be I always hear about the potential of sonic boom if it had time but for me I don't see that for me boom had too many problems with it that if given time would still fail one of my biggest issues with boom was the horrible characterization
@faidou9954
3 жыл бұрын
I really would play Sonic 06 over most of the modern sonic games, tbh.
@maude7420
3 жыл бұрын
Fucking same lol
@Kazandro
3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is my favourite game😔
@IBL15
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kazandro 06 is my second fave game ever
@Kazandro
3 жыл бұрын
@@IBL15 Respec
@arturocastroverde3349
2 жыл бұрын
@@IBL15 which is the 1st?
@TheJadeFist
3 жыл бұрын
People take Shadow too seriously, like come on, tell me the Omachao Launcher isn't one the greatest weapon in video games ever. He doesn't even need to ride a motorcycle or all those vehicles, he just wants to, for fun. The Edgehog has a low key playful side to him. Honestly the game just needed the mission system revamped a little. Make it not require 100% of the objective (maybe still have it be an option for completionist sake) , indicate how many targets are in a level section to make the warping between checkpoints useful, and don't make all factions hostile to you all times. If i'm helping the aliens they shouldn't be shooting at me, or required to kill to open a door.
@charliekahn4205
3 жыл бұрын
I think SEGA should contract Insomniac Games to make a full remake of Shadow the Hedgehog, with Insomniac given free rein to redesign the game (with some requirements, like momentum, of course). Insomniac seems like the best people to make this specific game considering their work on previous games which included many of the same aspects, like Spider-Man and the Ratchet series, just waiting to be combined.
@keiyakins
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is not only not the worst Sonic game, it's not even the worst Sonic game released *that day*. Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis released that day too. Forces? The heck? Sure it's worse than Generations but "not as good as Generations" doesn't mean it's worse than 06.
@LittleLexi24
2 жыл бұрын
I agree on both statements.
@sokax6079
3 ай бұрын
people just have forces for god knows what reason
@Gabe_10168
2 жыл бұрын
I dont really see why the cartoony artstyle for lost world is a bad thing, sonic a cartoony design, my main issue with 06 is sonic, a cartoon character being put into such a realistic environment
@Pretty_Rad
2 жыл бұрын
Just because something is cartoony doesn't mean it fits with other cartoons, otherwise we could start putting Fist of the North Star characters into Peppa Pig. It's not a matter of something looking cartoony, it's whether the art-style fits, and in honesty I'm not sure Lost World does. Generations had a much more organic looking style and whilst I'm not a huge fan of the faux-Pixar bobble head humans in Unleashed, I think they fit better as well. I'm just not a fan of everything looking like fondant like in Lost World and even Forces. Everything is too chunky looking and textureless and to me, at least, feels like it clashes slightly with Sonic's model. Especially Lost World. It's the opposite problem of 06 imo. My ideal personally is Heroes, SA1(DC), or Unleashed environments, with humans in a similar art-style to that one drawing Uekawa did of Hatsune Miku, and the animal characters looking like Secret Rings (underrated model, if you ask me)
@KaiserLatao
3 жыл бұрын
What about sonic labrinth? I think it sucks but idk what ppl think about it
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
I tried not to include small fry games like that. There’s a LOT of them. Tried doing only “major” release games for the most part. If you include games like those though, there’s a LOT of games worse than 06 lol.
@braintwo3398
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's alright. The story is hilarious
@whoeverest_the_whateverest
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix then why the heck you included Sonic 4
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
@@whoeverest_the_whateverest Because it’s Sonic the Hedgehog 4, the sequel to one of gaming’s greatest trilogies ever. It was kind of supposed to be a big deal, and I’d say it was a major Sonic release.
@whoeverest_the_whateverest
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix but it isn't... evermore, people tend to think them independently and take Ep2 as more or less not bad game
@autobotstarscream765
2 жыл бұрын
"People let bad Sonic games get away with it because they're focused on Sonic '06." >First game mentioned is Ow the Edge, a game nobody lets get away with anything and that the Internet arguably roasted _harder_ than '06
@Activeshooterdo
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic cd is much worse
@autobotstarscream765
2 жыл бұрын
@@Activeshooterdo Sonic CD controls well, features fan-favorite characters, and has great music, which for a lot of people ameliorates a lot of misgivings that they might have with the game's direction.
@NotHereBoi
3 жыл бұрын
Sonic ‘06 is literally the first game to make me legitimately break a controller because of glitches.
@CompletelyWild04
2 жыл бұрын
Takes game breaking glitches to a whole 'nother level.
@CrowFGC
7 ай бұрын
I think the Sonic 06 bashers are older Sonic fans who grew up when 06 was still recent, and who haven’t kept up with modern releases since Colors. For a while until I got heavily back into the series, I didn’t know anything about Lyric, Lost World, etc, just that they were apparently “not good.”
@ChristianoLord9
3 жыл бұрын
I agree to everything but Sonic 4. Loading screens are faster, mobile version included. And i like Sonic Lost World. Just personal opinion
@LegoGamerTom
2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s still like that now in 2024 when I’m watching this
@s-dew
3 жыл бұрын
I think that sonic 06 is hillarious and thats why I love it (also I am a biased bitch since I loved it as a kid), also I actually like Shadow too as well as Sonic 4 episode 2.
@oliverafton1444
2 жыл бұрын
WHAT?! Sonic 4 Episode 2 being worse than 06?! No no no, no! I haven't played 06... but Sonic 4 Episode 2 definetly is NOT worse than 06, not even objectively
@sokax6079
3 ай бұрын
people really think the fun they had while playing a game is equal to how good a game plays
@Rhyscele
3 жыл бұрын
My man good vid
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ✌️
@elementallobsterx
2 жыл бұрын
06 was stunning but unpolished. It was a VERY distant and nostalgic memory for me as when I first got the game, I returned it for Infamous 2. I got it back to through EBay and played it, reigniting my memory. I thought the setting, the gameplay, and (most of) the story were awesome!
@EmperorKarino
3 жыл бұрын
Me: Oh He's going to defend Sonic 06 this should be good... Starts bad mouthing Shadow the Hedgehog (game) Me: ah, you've chosen death. In all seriousness I'll give you an ear full about how you are wrong about Shadow the Hedgehog (game, and possibly character too). Starting with gameplay, Shadow controls almost identically to how he played in Sonic Heroes. The physics are also the same as it was in Sonic Heroes. Shadow moves fast, and his jump is sufficient enough to overcome most obstacles. The control the player has over Shadows jump is one of the best in the series making the actual platforming pretty easy. Guns being a newly added gameplay feature works really well, with no manual aim. As long as you face your target you will hit them. The level design and structure is mostly the same as the previous three games (Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes). Having an obvious way forward, but having multiple paths a player could explore. Using knowledge of Shadows abilities can allow players to skip sections of the stages. Another new gameplay feature the game has is the checkpoint system, allowing a player to go to specific spots of a stage to complete an objective. This game also let players finally use Shadow's chaos abilities in a main sonic game. For Story, Shadow the Hedgehog is the conclusion of the story arc that was started for him in Sonic Heroes. As much as people love to complain about Shadow gaining amnesia from falling back to Earth after the events of Sonic Adventure 2, It would make sense that Shadow would have had gained some sort of injury from falling to the planet from space. Shadow's amnesia being the reason he is interested in his past and who he is. Black Doom seeming to know who Shadow is would very much interest him. The players also get some closure to the Shadow Android sub plot that was started in Sonic Heroes, which ultimately connects to Shadow wanting to know who he is. Since Sega/Sonic Team planted the seed of is Shadow really Shadow in the players mind. Especially when many players were convinced that he did die at the end of SA2 (Even though the fault of that lies in SA2's presentation and the directors intent to have Shadow killed off at the time). Now while most of Shadow the Hedgehog (game) 's story is non canon, since the only canon parts of the games story is that Shadow's adventure starts in Westopolis and ends in the Black Comet, where the last story starts. Shadow gets closure on his past, saves the world, and decides to move on from his past. While not specifically in the Shadow the Hedgehog game, we do know that he puts the grudge he may have had with G.U.N. behind him and ends up joining the organization. I could go on more but I think the gameplay and the story should be sufficient in convincing that Shadow is not a bad game. As for your bad game list, I don't specifically disagree, but there are worse Sonic games than some of the ones you have listed. Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic Shuffle, and Sonic Pocket Adventure to name a few. (I hope you don't mis interpret my comment, I do enjoy your videos and hope you keep making them.)
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
For the other games, I tried only including major titles while trying to avoid handheld titles and super small spinoff games. But yeah your opinions about ShTH are totally valid, I can agree with some of those points.
@S-Fan2006
3 жыл бұрын
That is HIS opinion!!!
@EmperorKarino
3 жыл бұрын
@@S-Fan2006 Who and what are you talking about?
@S-Fan2006
3 жыл бұрын
@@EmperorKarino I was saying that Shadow the Hedgehog being a bad game to @chaomix is HIS opinion and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
@EmperorKarino
3 жыл бұрын
@@S-Fan2006 Yeah, so? Are you saying I'm not entitled to mine?
@ChronosAnimations
2 жыл бұрын
One of the questions that I couldn't get an answer about Forces is the appearance of Silver. It's natural for him to appear when his world is in danger, but he never mentioned it (or maybe I just missed it). It's like he was just placed there and nothing. You know, he has his powers, but there is absolutely no context given for his future or anything like that.
@wuavo9157
2 жыл бұрын
well 06 isn't canon since it restarted itself, and only sonic remembers the events
@kxndela
Жыл бұрын
@@wuavo9157 so then it is canon, just only Sonic remembers the events. bro really has Migos in his bio 💀
@wuavo9157
Жыл бұрын
@@kxndela replying to a year+ old comment..
@kxndela
Жыл бұрын
@@wuavo9157 listening to Migos in 2023. .
@wuavo9157
Жыл бұрын
@@kxndela what a corny ass comment LMAO stop dick riding. Thats like saying i listen to tupac in 2023
@whirlwind6wind33
3 жыл бұрын
I like Secret Rings and shadow the hedgehog.
@LostSoulSilver
3 жыл бұрын
Why tho
@justasimplenobody2666
2 жыл бұрын
I was just personally offended by Sonic Forces for bringing back all these characters just to have them do *nothing*.... Let us play as Team Chaotix, or Rouge or Shadow or even Knuckles just SOMETHING. But no. Sonic or Classic Sonic. No fun allowed. I am so frustrated knowing that all these characters were there for what should've been the f*cking climax of the series just to have them not even be playable and having them do nothing.. even Chaos... like come on.......
@Sovic91
3 жыл бұрын
Hey there. I just found your channel. I was surprised that you have so little subscribers. I really liked this video. I was well structured and well argued. I don't entirely agree about Lost World and Sonic 4, but I can definitely see where you are coming from. Anyways, you now have a new subscriber, so congratulations on a video well done.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Appreciate your support. To be fair, I still enjoy both of those games, they were just a bit disappointing in several ways. Most games on this list I can still enjoy even though I consider them “bad” yknow?
@Sovic91
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix Yeah, I totally get that. To be fair Sonic 4 suffered a heavy case of false advertising. It still baffles me that SEGA did that. I actively have to remind myself that it isn't a classic game whenever I play it. It's helpful to think about ep1 as a Sonic Rush game, where the homing attack replaces the boost. And ep2 is more platform based. I really hope some day we get an overhaul mod like with Forces.
@squeaks5677
3 жыл бұрын
Sonic fans respecting each others opinions!?!??!??!!
@Sovic91
3 жыл бұрын
@@squeaks5677 Yep. Even such unbelievable occurrences can happen.
@JezElectro13
2 жыл бұрын
is it just me or Sonic Games can become WAY worse with just little things missed to make them at least Good or Mediocre?
@kmac5995
3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it wasn’t just me that thought sonic lost world was far too much like a Mario game and completely uninspired. Sonic forces could’ve been so much more
@sepherioth5568
3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 tries, and Sonic forces legit didn’t even try. Also I just love how dark and serious 06 is, a lot of people say it’s to much, but I kinda think it’s just right…
@WaterKirby1994
2 жыл бұрын
The only 2010s Sonic game that tried was Mania. 06 was an underrated Gem compared to the crap we got during the 2010s for the Sonic Series.
@MondyArtizt
3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is good
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
It’s cool 😎
@CabeliotCometier
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say mediorce, medium-good level design and interesting concept but horrible optimization and bad enemy balancing, medium story and underwhelming boss fights compared to the threat presented. As the mass of fans say, 06 would've been way way better with more time, they already had a great idea going and it just got ruined by the deadline and development struggles
@maude7420
3 жыл бұрын
I mean in terms of bosses, compare the Egg Cerberus to the Pirate in Colors lol
@icee1683
3 жыл бұрын
I would say 06 is really bad
@charliekahn4205
3 жыл бұрын
I like the level design, and with some small tweaks all the levels would have been really fun 3D classic ones. Shame about the physics, though.
@AmeKikai
3 жыл бұрын
SEGA be like: "Ah, frick it. Let's put Shadow in a game but let's give him a gun!"
@charliekahn4205
3 жыл бұрын
They should have gotten Insomniac to make Shadow. It's pretty obvious they really want to make a Sonic game.
@mondopatrick
3 жыл бұрын
sonic 4 was pretty good imo, not at all great but not bad, its something i can bring myself to replay
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was overall pretty fun but the main thing is that it’s just super underwhelming. Even both games combined it’s a pretty short game and the reward for getting chaos emeralds is like literally nothing.
@mondopatrick
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix wdym bro in episode 1 you got super sonic and that was AWESOME! at least for 2010, but episode 2 super sonic was literally useless because everytime you activated a team move it would deactivate super sonic which sucks. I would say Sonic 4 is better than Sonic 06, IF it werent for the fact that I love Sonic 06 and that I dont see it as a BAD game, I just see it as a fun experience with some terrible flaws. My biggest problem with Sonic 06 isnt the glitches, SA1 gave me a harder time tbh and i still love that game to death, but rather its the missed opportunity, so many mechanics were either scrapped or unfinished, spindash for example, completely unfinished, feels like an anvil, the shoe gems, absolutely broken. But even regarding those and many more, I still like Sonic 06, and I do find it to be more enjoyable and more lively than Sonic 4.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
@@mondopatrick No I don’t mean the transformation itself. Usually in the classic games you get some kind of alternate ending or additional boss fight with the super form and in Sonic 4 it basically does nothing. The form itself is cool like usual though.
@mondopatrick
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix oh yeah true, i guess a good excuse for why the games are so lack luster is because they were originally just gonna be mobile spinoffs but they instead marketed them as Sonic 4 and put them on every platform
@glenhaven721
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, SOMEBODY agrees with me!
@RSTLegacy
3 жыл бұрын
I would mostly agree with this video.. But i highly disagree on sonic lost world I also rather pass 4 boring hours with forces, than a long time passing through the glitchy fest with bad hub worlds, filler misions, and lot more that is 06.
@smasherthebluecat4682
3 жыл бұрын
Two games you missed, Sonic The Hedgehog Genesis on the GBA, & Sonic Jam for the gamecom.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
But that would be a total of 8 games then 👀
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
@Welp no
@TheRealUnkn0wn_289
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix Why?
@kathryncampbell4432
2 жыл бұрын
You could say Sonic Forces is basically a compilation of every non-glitch problem about the games: mix the infamous”try-hardness” of Shadow and 06, the lackadaisical humor approach culminated in Lost World and Boom, Lost World’s poor level design, the 2D style that’s been plaguing most of the latest games, and you’ve got Sonic Forces.
@chaunceybillups5436
3 жыл бұрын
I actually like 06 and Forces and Lost world and Secret Rings and Shadow the Hedgehog haha
@chaunceybillups5436
3 жыл бұрын
@Family Shands Yeup. I love Secret Rings. And it also has a very underrated soundtrack. Give it a listen, you'll be surprised
@Eric_Black134
3 жыл бұрын
Never played Shadow the Hedgehog, I personally hat Forces, but then I agree with everything else.
@chaunceybillups5436
3 жыл бұрын
@@Eric_Black134 I will say though, that Sonic Forces was definitely too easy
@Mepphy99
3 жыл бұрын
Shadow and 06 are actually lovable Lost world Is lodable Forces and secret Rings ... How?
@TheRacingOtaku
3 жыл бұрын
Eh, I get ironic enjoyment from Shadow the Hedgehog. I've never played Lost World, though, mainly because I haven't owned a Nintendo console past the Wii, but Secret Rings and Forces are garbage. The only 3 Sonic games I can comfortably say are worse than 2006 is Free Riders, Sonic & The Secret Rings, and Sonic 4 (Ep.I).
@paulo547
3 жыл бұрын
Dang, Lost worlds...? Worse than 06? You can't be serious.
@elpato_7910
3 жыл бұрын
Man, great video, Sonic 06 for me is one of my favorite sonic games, Hope that you still do this content :).
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that means a lot! 06 is rad man. Also I plan on doing weekly videos in this style so stay tuned! PS nice HxH profile pic 😉
@coinstudiosmoviescartoonsa1978
2 жыл бұрын
fun fact: Sonic Boom was bad because Sega forced BigRedButton to put the game onto the Wii U with an engine that didn't work with the system, and also BigRedButton couldn't ask for delays because Sega decided to make it a multi-media sub franchise
@YumeDream39
3 жыл бұрын
I really believe Sonic 06 isn't a bad game. I've never played it, but I didn't mind the story too too much. At least it got Shadow's character right!
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Shadows character arc is so good in 06, it almost makes the entire game with it just for that.
@YumeDream39
3 жыл бұрын
It definitely does! If Shadow wasn't in the game, I don't think I would have liked it as much. Sorry Silver!
@artistanthony1007
3 жыл бұрын
Before you say, the Last Story from Shadow The Hedgehog leads to Shadow accepting G.U.N. at all and they accept him but also, the reason why Shadow is extremely violent in the opening is because of him trusting his father so he tells him to attack to kill while having amnesia and he uses guns to replace his Chaos Spear, everyone is wrong about the game.
@kyro8228
2 жыл бұрын
I think forces being below 06 is a bit uncalled for. I personally would sooner play 06 for it being so buggy and messy and thus entertaining, but forces is much more fundamentally solid, its just boring. I would have put chronicles there instead, personally
@chaomix
2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way though. I’d much sooner play 06 than Forces simply for the amusement. But like, that’s the whole thing. 06 is more enjoyable which makes it a better game IMO. The worst thing a video game can be is boring.
@evdestroy5304
3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone else noticed a surge in people defending sonic 06 lately? I'm very glad because I actually enjoy 06 but it's just odd.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
It’s because of the weird direction of the newer games. I think a lot of people are realizing that although Sonic 06 is a “bad” game, it’s way more in the right direction than a lot of the recent games.
@evdestroy5304
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix I feel like Forces is like the antithesis to 06. Where 06 was considered a bad game because of many smaller things subtracting from the main experience, Forces is considered a bad game because of its poor main experience despite not having many hiccups like 06
@RSTLegacy
3 жыл бұрын
Mostly.. sonic's fanbase bipolarity. Wait enough years and probably they Will say Forces was always a master piece
@evdestroy5304
3 жыл бұрын
@@RSTLegacy No, they won't. It will be more like Shadow the Hedgehog, it'll just be remembered as "meh" and forgettable.
@RSTLegacy
3 жыл бұрын
@@evdestroy5304 it could make sense. But really, i see from time to time how the entire fanbase for some reason, changes it's opinion on a certain game.
@thajocoth
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say Shadow the Hedgehog is a Sonic game. It's more of a Shadow game. Going into it expecting a Sonic game is just going to make a person disappointed, but knowing that it's a Shadow game and not going into it with the same expectations for a Sonic game gives it a chance.
@gojifan7976
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic mania was before sonic forces.
@noel5323
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, yes, I do agree Sonic Forces is worse than 06. Too easy to complete, remade levels, Chaos and Shadow are there for some reason, and the fact that this used to be my favorite game for some time💀. Glad Frontiers fixed Sonic in some way.
@grugonk
2 жыл бұрын
I think Sonic's Schoolhouse deserves an honorable mention, even if it's just a spin-off.
@SteveCrafts2k
3 жыл бұрын
Even if 06 had good concepts, gave Shadow one of the best characterizations he's had, and had (imo) the best level design philosophy in Sonic, it still means nothing without good execution. It's still a glitchy mess with a convoluted plot, poor physics, mediocre graphics even for 2006 standards, humans that clash with Sonic's cast, and many more issues. With that being said, Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric is, without a doubt, the worst Sonic game ever made, and nothing, not even Forces, can top it.
@SonicSwift99
3 жыл бұрын
This right here. Fans can have their opinions and like the game but when they try to justify it and put it on some high pedestal trying to set it as the standard for future Sonic games, that’s when I get pissed. So many people blinded by nostalgia and hopping on the ambition train. I swear they’re fucking clueless.
@bullymaguire243
4 ай бұрын
I will not tolerate any secret rings slander
@v4603
3 жыл бұрын
*cries in loving Shadow the Hedgehog 05* but great video as usual
@ballinn0430
5 ай бұрын
I would rather play boring games with lousy gimmicks than a literal mess.
@shadowthehedgehoggaming3950
2 жыл бұрын
bruh my game is the best
@getreal4273
2 жыл бұрын
so true
@synthesoul
2 жыл бұрын
People consider Sonic 06 the worst because of how much of a let down it was after the two major SA bangers Sonic Team produced. Not saying Sonic 06 is that bad, but it ruined people's expectations.
@thrashmetalhead88
3 жыл бұрын
I like Sonic Forces. I find it SO FUN. When I heard people saying it was bad, I wasn't happy. I do admit though, the levels are short. But I still love it. Disagree with me if you want. But I love Sonic Forces.
@stayblueර
3 жыл бұрын
Same bro same It doesn’t deserve the number 1 spot at all The spot should go to sonic boom and secret rings
@DarkSlasher36
2 жыл бұрын
AND after the controversy last year everyone now knows what "SONICS ARMS ARE BLUE!" came from
@cliffturbo2146
3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they added a run button is so that the player won't run up a wall accidentally. I personally don't have a problem with that, since it gave me more control, but maybe there could had been some other ways to work on it.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s not the worst thing ever but makes things a tiny bit more complicated than they should have been. I think the best way to have implemented it would to have made it a “climb” button instead.
@cliffturbo2146
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaomix Yeah probably. I still like the game for what it does though.
@chaomix
3 жыл бұрын
@@cliffturbo2146 I like giving games second chances, especially Sonic games. I’ll have to play through it completely through again, maybe on stream.
@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Sonic Labyrinth (Game Gear) wasn't listed. That game is just borderline unplayable.
@poiberry8956
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was kind of expecting the Sonic 1 GBA port to be on here
@iranoutofideasforausernam1703
3 жыл бұрын
It is factually the worst official SEGA-made Sonic game, with performance issues, screen crunch, and poor physics. It has an alternate game mode ("Anniversary" mode) that gives Sonic the spin dash without changing the levels to better accommodate it in a game that already suffers from screen crunch, and it doesn't help with any of the issues the original had whatsoever aside from adding a save feature.
@datboi9539
11 ай бұрын
*Looks at Sonic 06* Perhaps I treated you too harshly....
@thomascircle245
3 жыл бұрын
Least favorite Sonic game I've ever played is the Game Gear version of Sonic 2. Objectively, there's more things wrong with 06 but there's also more things RIGHT with it, by virtue of it being a bigger game. S2GG is just a meh experience by default made worse with that awful screen crunch making the first boss nearly impossible. Also at least we got to play as Tails in 06!
@joshuaperry9017
3 жыл бұрын
I Really HATE Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic 06, Sonic And The Secret Rings, Sonic 4 Episode 1 & 2, Sonic Boom & Sonic Forces. But I Absolutely LOVE Sonic Unleashed, Sonic And The Black Knight & Sonic Lost World because in my opinion these three games TRIED, like their trying something good.
@captaindynamite8936
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see that all but one game mentioned came out after '06, although I agree with each entry. It would be really nice to see that same effort again someday, but I have doubts we will anytime soon.
@greyrifterrellik5837
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, saying that anything related to sonic boom has "bad writing" is probably even more controversial than saying 06 isn't the worst game; I mean, the cartoon is nothing *but* that writing, and look at how much praise IT gets.
@sussybaka3648
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic Forces actually did have a reason for Classic Sonic appearing, it was because of the Phantom Ruby transporting him there after Classic Sonic defeated Eggman and Heavy King as Super Sonic. Now Granted that’s not exactly the BEST reason, and even then by that logic we also should’ve gotten Classic Knuckles and Tails (Mighty and Ray are a bit of a weird case since they appeared in Mania Plus) but still it’s not a very bad reason just not a greatly executed one.
@crashban4t.f.s.b783
2 жыл бұрын
Generations got everything figured out except for the story.
@finatron0926
2 жыл бұрын
Forces is my first modern sonic game I played sonic 1,2,3 adventure, adventure 2 and heroes before and I don't think forces was that bad
@OwOIord
2 жыл бұрын
Play generations or unleashed and you'll see the difference in quality
@great-white-lynx825
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, 3 and 4 are definitely WORSE than Sonic 06, but everything else on the list beats Sonic 06 by a LONG SHOT
@IDK_Kat
3 жыл бұрын
1. Sonic Jam for the Game.com
@Gamex-Frontiers
Жыл бұрын
If Shadow The Hedgehog had no guns, only hero and dark stories (only 2 stories, similar to SA2), rebuilding Lost Impact to be similar to Final Rush (SA2) and spliting the game to separate some of the levels, that would’ve made the game a bit more fine or fun, you know what I mean.
@divin3nightmar339
3 жыл бұрын
I might get hate for this but sonic 06 is actually my favorite sonic. Mainly cause of nostalgia but also I loved the fact that you get to play as three of the coolest hedgehogs. And I actually never got any glitches that I can remember when I played on ps3
@sodium285
3 жыл бұрын
Dnt wry. Check Out Speed Super Sonic. His Favourite Sonic Game is also Sonic '06
@theutubepower1243
3 жыл бұрын
Do people even hate on these comments anymore?
@sodium285
3 жыл бұрын
@@theutubepower1243 IDK
@WaterKirby1994
3 жыл бұрын
Liking Sonic 06 is better than liking the 2010s Decade Sonic Games that aren't Mania. Only by embracing 06 & making Sega realize that it was wrong to abandon everything that game did right can this neverending feeling dark age truly end. The 2010s Decade was the worst of Sonic's Career as far as games are concerned. We can only pray for return to form to happen sometime either this year or next year for the Sonic Series.
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