Can’t stress enough how useful and inspiring this video was. Thank you very much
@alzibaba
Ай бұрын
Great tips Wes, thank you! Love your photo of the couple under the arch with the sun star above, awesome shot! As more of a videographer, I've tried quite a few photos in either 2.4:1 or 65:24 with 14 and 16mm. Personally I love this format, and they work great with wide angle lenses.
@edward832505
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the material, I have Irix 15mm and I love this glass, I needed such tips, thanks a lot.
@BrianDuaqui
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect video!! I love shooting my sony 24 gm for portraits. I'm like you, learn what needs to be learned then F the rules and further your creativity and move out of the "Box".
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
I really need to get my hands on that lens! It’s looks great, but I’ve been hesitant because I’m a big fan of 35mm and 16mm and rarely anything in between. Haha
@nashhall694
4 жыл бұрын
I love this Wes, I’ve only been into photography for 2 years now mostly doing landscapes, but as I venture more into portraiture, I’ll be taking some of those concepts with me! ❤️ your work. 👍😀
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nash!
@gosman949
4 жыл бұрын
As a landscape photographer mainly, I love your wide angle portraits. Recently I have been trying to hone my portrait photography and have dismissed my landscape wide angles as not permissible. Now you have given me permission to experiment with wider angle portraits!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Use what you have and what you know! I’m pretty mediocre at landscapes myself. Maybe you could come up with some portraits even better than mine by using your landscape skills 👌🏻
@dpfreedman
4 жыл бұрын
Extra credit for the Jonathan Swift reference! Bravo!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
It kinda slipped out, and then I panicked a bit. Haha
@jasonmalwitz8044
4 жыл бұрын
One of the best tips for shooting couples wide angle is to have them bend at the waist toward the camera to alleviate distortion.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@pedrobartolomei7707
Жыл бұрын
One of the Best videos about this subject on KZitem thank you very much
@WesPerry
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Pedro!
@craiggagnon8407
4 жыл бұрын
I think you have hit on some really important points. First, adding such wide angle into the environment your clients are in might seem odd to them at first, but a little conversation beforehand would go a long way into solving that issue. The result is a few shots that will hit their subconscious in a wonderful way and really take them back to a specific moment the way a tighter photo can't always do because you're right, a portrait is super personal, and the way a person processes important moments in their life is often much more macro than we know. (I thought of this allll by myself hahaha). Second, #6. YES. Creativity is what will set you free personally, but also set you apart. No brainer. Great video Wes.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Good words. I don’t care what Claire says about you, I think you’re a pretty sharp guy 😏
@craiggagnon8407
4 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry hahaha thanks. I took a trip to your site, you're a Canuck, cool beans. Claire and I toyed with selling everything we own to try to open an Eco resort/ Yoga retreat on Grand Manaan out your way. Really huge idea however, and Claire hates cold, wet weather so maybe living on a 100foot cliff over looking the Atlantic wasn't going to be what she needed long term. The shift has been Costa Rica. :|
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would imagine Costa Rica is a little friendlier weather-wise throughout much of the year 😬 And Grand-Manaan can be a super isolating place. Hard to get on and off the island, and very separated from the rest of the world.
@heydougphotography6112
4 жыл бұрын
I think non photographers associate that bokeh with image quality, especially with weddings, essentially because of the kit needed to create it. Great video 👍
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Now that our phones are doing a better and better job of it, it might be time to start letting it go 😉
@terrywong3223
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy taking environmental portraits with my 16-35 ultra-wide lens. Thanks for the inspiration, Wes !
@imgcrastu
2 жыл бұрын
These are really good and useful tips. Thx a lot.
@JasonLorette
4 жыл бұрын
I love my Sigma 18-35 (most used lens) and my Tokina 11-16...wides can be super fun. :)
@AdrianLardPhoto
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Wes! I've been wanting to do more wide angle portraits. I need to spice things up and try something new. Thanks for the motivation!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Do it! 👌🏻
@thureintun1840
3 жыл бұрын
Really informative. Thank you. I will try with my 16-35 lens.
@robwasnj
4 жыл бұрын
I really loved your examples, too many shots with a long lens and bokeh'd out background leads to so little variety, I'm guilty of this.... you've made me rethink my next shoot.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Go break some rules! 👊🏻😏
@curtis.strange
4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more videos like this, great work buddy!
@wendystumbaugh695
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Wes! I've been wanting to explore UW portraiture, and now I'm going to start. I have a16-35mm f/4 fe Zeiss for my Sony a73. I usually just use this lens for my real estate photography, but I need to take my environmental portraiture to another level of creativity. Thanks for the video, my friend!
@tanako98
2 жыл бұрын
I just began using my sigma art 14-24 2.8 this past weekend. Gives you a whole lot more creativity etc…
@WesPerry
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! How’s it going?
@SonOvaBoss
Жыл бұрын
this video was soo helpful, would love to see more content like this
@martinohesse
Жыл бұрын
I suggest people give a glance to the Bill Brandt work with wide angle lens, he achieved stunning and creative portraits....
@Sallyelia81
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for great tips This is what I was looking for
@rickierecardophotography7406
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this extremely valuable video. I was struggling until now!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@63MacGuy
4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love your channel. You seemed a little more natural, not as scripted as usual 😀
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
I’m never scripted! Haha. I usually have the order of categories and some bullet points and that’s it. 🤷🏻♂️
@stlstudios3061
4 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry Keep up the great work, we appreciate it!
@longkedah
Жыл бұрын
Best video.sharp video and wide tips.thanks sir
@sheadeighanphotography
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work and great video.
@essychan
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Wes, just bought the Sony A7III and first came across one of your lens comparison videos. I love the relaxed vibe that you send out, it's just very comforting :) Now going through your channel for more vids! ❤️
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it! 👍🏻
@wesbaynham1634
4 жыл бұрын
Great video and would love to see more similarly themed content on composition, how to's, rather than the gear stuff...... From another Wes awake at 0445 in the UK. Keep up the good work.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
The problem is, how-to videos rarely do as well as gear videos. And when you’re aiming to make a living, or part of a living, on youtube, you have to make the kind of content people will watch. Really hoping this one does well so that I Can make more 🤞🏻 Thanks, Wes! And this Wes is now awake at 5:55 in Canada 😒😂
@wesbaynham1634
4 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry Sure I was thinking gear vids = $$$ when I was writing my first comment, and have found your gear reviews very good for helping me decide the best way to part with my £££ (as a new-ish amateur). It's also nice to watch someone who present's in a relatively calm way and not in an overly flamboyant manner like some KZitemrs !
@grottoserpentina9342
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial You put the joy into UWA photography Thanks!
@RYstudio202_PA
2 жыл бұрын
Your professional presentation was very interesting and inspiring.
@hurleygreen927
3 жыл бұрын
This video is jst what I needed to start using a Nikon 12-24mm DX lens for portraits! Thanks for the tutorial!
@WesPerry
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@Mraz75
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Really appreciate this..
@chryseass.5143
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wes, I will keep your comments in mind when I finally get to take my new Tamron 17-28 f2.8 lens out for a proper photo shoot. Any luck on the housing front for you ? I noticed you are still in your old "studio" so you haven't moved yet!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
It’s complicated. Our realtor is hopeful this coming weekend will result in a bid 🤞🏻 These things don’t happen overnight! (Not usually, but it Would be nice 😏)
@bluecologne25
4 жыл бұрын
Information like this are gold to all photographers. Not much information about wide angle portrait are searchable in KZitem. Thank you! On the same note, any tip on how to incorporate wide angle portrait with flash photography? That would be an awesome sequel!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Ah! Everyone’s asking that! (Okay, not everyone, but something like that). Yeah, I sometimes do and sometimes don’t. And it has a lot to do with separation from the background, as I mentioned. Something I forgot to mention is that sometimes an ultra wide portrait can come off looking very flat and 2 dimensional. If I’m having any difficulty with that (or the usual balancing subject light with the sky), then I crack out the flash, whether side or back or front. Always deciding on the go.
@frankiecalabro2617
2 жыл бұрын
Such a great video Wes!
@hdahir545
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks i have done portrait from 24mm f1.4 , 50mm f1.4 , 200mm f1.8 , 400mm f2.8 And now i get new 12-24mm f2.8 for to try ultrawide portrait
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to try that lens 😏👌🏻
@Zengineer
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing!
@DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman
2 жыл бұрын
The best thing about wide angle lenses is that you actually have to go to a beautiful place.
@WesPerry
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. No hiding things! Well…not easily at least. Haha
@frankiecalabro2617
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Wes!!!!
@famdeejay
4 жыл бұрын
Great job on this topic Wes!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jose!
@mauriziocascone
Жыл бұрын
Gret vid, thanks for sharing!
@caravanlifenz
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful shots.
@zacx6970
3 жыл бұрын
The hardest photography style. A lot of things to consider, backgrounds, composition, angles. also keep in mind you need a very good places to take the shoot which means it will cost you much more than taking portraits photography.
@KhoaSV
4 жыл бұрын
Great tips Wes, thanks for sharing!
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@sundaramkumarappan5244
3 жыл бұрын
can you throw some light on aperture settings for wide angle shots please
@a.l.alexander3668
3 жыл бұрын
Bro you just turned me on to wide angle portraiture. I was going to buy the Samyang 75mm 1.8 for portraits but now I'm getting the 18mm 2.8
@WesPerry
3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Can’t it be both? 😂
@a.l.alexander3668
3 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry I just meant first!
@martinsrensen3869
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks just got a 12-24 mm awesome tips
@1949AKN
3 жыл бұрын
Good subject.
@rjexplorationandreviews2936
4 жыл бұрын
Funny how I just got my 24mm 1.4 gm yesterday for portraits and today you have a video out about this topic..👍🏻🤣 Your the best.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but you’ll have to trade it in for something wider 😂 (Or just send it to me for testing 😏 haha)
@rjexplorationandreviews2936
4 жыл бұрын
Wes Perry 😂🤣 Not really, I also have the 16-35 2.8 gm..🙈 I have a serious case of GAS..
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Goood Goooooood 😂
@brunocahete1486
2 ай бұрын
Great!!! No turn around direct to the point!!
@joydipsarkar984
4 жыл бұрын
I like your concept ...
@pixelartistphotography5091
4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's nice explanation, even i want shoot weddings with ultra wide, but when it's come to selection part,clients mostly likes the pics which shot between 50-135 focal length, how to deal with it
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
It’s a slow process, honestly. Once you’ve filled your portfolio with a certain kind of work, the clients who hire you will be looking for that work. So until you’ve attracted clients specifically with your ultra wide portraiture, they’ll still be looking for the usual stuff. Since half my portfolio is ultra wide, my clients pick those photos almost half the time. (In general people are more likely to choose a photo where they’re clearly identifiable over one where they’re not, though (as they’re too small or silhouetted), so there will always be a tendency toward the longer focal lengths to some degree).
@pixelartistphotography5091
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I agree with you points. I will slowly build my portfolio with wide angle shots, so if i am buying u. Wide angle lens now, it should be Canon 11-24mm or rf15-35mm
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
I mean, if you can afford it, I’d go with the RF. Going wider than 15mm is really only useful for architecture and real estate, some landscapes. Things get a bit crazy up there.
@ZakiQutteineh
4 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your thought process regarding scenarios where you would decide to 'add artificial light vs simply stick to natural light' in your outdoor portraiture. A video perhaps? I'm addicted to flash; can't help but add flash 99% of the time ... and looking for ways to fix that.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
I considered mentioning that a bit in this video, but decided to keep it somewhat short. Maybe 1/3 of the shots I showed here have off camera flash. Mostly the AD600 Pro, since you have to get reasonably far away to keep it out of the ultra wide shot. I’ll keep that in mind for a future video, though 👍🏻
@RYstudio202_PA
2 жыл бұрын
Very informative!
@WesPerry
2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it, Rod!
@donaldbrocksmith9508
Жыл бұрын
When shooting a large family group in a small space how do you best frame the shot so that you don't get distortion on the far ends of the image? Shoot the entire group in the middle of the frame, both right to left and up and down?
@WesPerry
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, shoot them entered, and even overshoot on the necessary width and then crop in after if need be. The distortion at the edge of the frame is going to be worse no matter what focal length and how much distortion correction you're going to be using. So give yourself some breathing room to crop should you discover you've made a horrible framing mistake when working on the edits 😂
@andrewb5345
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you 🙏
@JainoCMathew
10 ай бұрын
I am having trouble getting sharpness on my ultrawide shots. I am using sigma 14-24 ef lens
@WesPerry
10 ай бұрын
What camera and focus modes are you using?
@kailetsingson1558
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@caseyonlocation8257
4 жыл бұрын
Great wide angle images! Now I need to get a wider lens, LOL! But I shot my wad on all my Godox stuff, haha!
@peterlemke3468
4 жыл бұрын
Well you'd better clean your Godox gear first then lol.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
The great thing about ultra wide lenses is autofocus can be pretty unimportant, so if you’re not using real estate or Astro photography where sharpness is super critical, you don’t have to spend an awful lot! Or, you know, you could just save your money. Always an option, too (not usually for photographers tho. Haha)
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Peter 👀😂
@terencemorrissey4413
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips
@jianqiangzhangchina1007
Жыл бұрын
Hi, How to light up the person in your ultra-wide portrait photo? Thanks
@WesPerry
Жыл бұрын
When necessary an AD600 Pro or AD300 Pro
@neofamily23
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! What apperture is recommended for portraits? Using canon rf 15 to 35 mm 2.8 IS thanks!
@WesPerry
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the desired effect. If there is no particular thought there, I’ll shoot wide open for the marginal amount of subject separation it might create. If you want the clouds in the sky to pop, you’re looking at 5.6 to 8. If you want to get sun stars or better flare effects, you’re looking at f9 to f11, depending on how your lens behaves.
@duschbrauser
4 жыл бұрын
Great photos...
@arshadhussain6477
3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir I'm Arshad from india I'm a wedding photographer Sir which is best for wide angle shot I've Nikon 750, Nikon 810, Nikon Z6
@WesPerry
3 жыл бұрын
Also depends on what lenses you’re using. Adapted lenses can cause issues at ultra wide angles, so the Z6 might get more softness around the edges than it normally would if you’re adapting an F Mount lens to it.
@abhikaulavkar
4 жыл бұрын
Very guided👌 .....thanks 🙏🏻
@peterlemke3468
4 жыл бұрын
You were never Bokeh Boy Wes you were always Tank Man to me. Lovely photos and good examples of your discussion points. Learn the rules then break them hey. That's very Pablo Ruiz Picasso.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Haha. I haven’t shot at the tank in a while now. Will have to go back again soon 😉
@jerryabs
4 жыл бұрын
HI, What do you thing about Sigma 15-30mm f3.5 for portrait?
@TW-iu9zy
4 жыл бұрын
... Wes, it’s 2 o’clock in the morning in Germany! But very, very usefull tipps for taking photos of people, so I‘am awaking ... 😄 ... How important are flashes for you when you shooting UW portraits?
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
I do sometimes use off camera flash. I considered discussing that as well, But didn’t want to go on all night. Some Germans need to sleep, right? 😏 I usually use the stock reflector on the AD600 Pro, because when you’re shooting this wide, it’s pretty much impossible to keep the flash out of the photo (unless you do a composite, which I avoid at all cost), and that shoots a good distance. Often I’ll just use it to create and edge light to make some background separation. Or sometimes a fake sunset beside or behind them.
@travelwithcanon7313
4 жыл бұрын
Can I Get This Job Done By Using Canon 80d which is crop sensor by using 10-18mm f:4.5 lens
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Yep! That gives you a full frame equivalent of 16-28.8mm.
@ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck
3 жыл бұрын
My struggle with wide angle is focusing and what aperture to use for a couple shoot to make sure they are in focus. Any tips on that?
@WesPerry
3 жыл бұрын
I shoot different apertures depending on what look I’m trying to achieve. 2.8 if nothing in particular just for focusing (subjects will all be in focus then anyway), 5.6 if I want the sky to pop a bit more, and 9-11 if I want to get some sun stars. At 9-11 you usually have to switch to single shot or AF-S, as AF-C or continuous doesn’t work as well anymore.
@ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck
3 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry Best tip ever. Will try today and see how it goes. Thanks Wes from Regina SK
@chandanamarnath1934
4 жыл бұрын
Love the T-shirt.
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
That was an accident. I usually try to wear something a little less distracting for videos, but forgot to change 😂
@chandanamarnath1934
4 жыл бұрын
Still thanks for the tips and advise, will try it soon on the field.
@symzg5995
4 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thank you. But quick question, do you normally shoot wide open or stop down when shooting wide???
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent question (one that I cut for time). If I have the sun or an off camera flash pretending to be the sun, I stop down to f/9 to f/13 to create better light effects like lens flares and sun stars. Otherwise I keep it open at f/2.8 to f/5.6 just to keep my AF-C working really well. Just about everything stays in focus for the most part anyway (at full body distances).
@symzg5995
4 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry cool. Thanks
@dalvysjorge9233
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, what about a 12-24mm?
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say that lens is almost obsolete now that the Sigma 14-24 2.8 is out. Unless you really need those two extra mm, and want the lighter lens, you can get something that’s sharper, brighter, for less. 😬
@dalvysjorge9233
4 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry Thank you!
@madyol9046
2 жыл бұрын
Hye Wes. I’m just a lil bit curious. When we taking photos for Bride and Groom, do we need to ensure them in the middle or just break the rules and let the subject in the grid line for composition ? Thanks in advance for your help
@madyol9046
2 жыл бұрын
For example your photos sample at the 8:17 minutes on your video
@WesPerry
2 жыл бұрын
For that one they’re still quite close to centre. They’re both skinny people, though, so there’s a little more leeway in that particular instance.
@edowijaya8603
4 жыл бұрын
for wedding photography, better 20mm or 24mm?
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
For the day to day, if it’s a prime, I wouldn’t want to go any wider than 24mm. While the ultra wide stuff is a lot of fun, it has to be done with intentionality, and you wouldn’t want to be stuck there at all times.
@josephcullen5872
4 жыл бұрын
I've been pretty typical so far in my portraits and avoided environmental shots but I'd like to try. Can I just ask for the wide shots where flash was used was this just bounced on camera or off camera?
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t generally use on camera flash. When there’s flash it’s off camera. Usually the AD600 Pro
@josephcullen5872
4 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry awesome, much appreciated!
@frogfrogu
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. But the attempt at poetry missed the mark: The sky imbues the photo with pathos? I hope not!
@WesPerry
3 жыл бұрын
You don’t think that the right sky can impart emotion to a photo?
@frogfrogu
3 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry Of course I do. I love sky photos. But your word choice (around 7:30) "pathos" means a quality that evokes pity or sadness. I don't think that the Sony 16-35mm universally does that to photos. But the point that you were reaching for is that the wide angle lens makes powerful and emotional photos of the sky. To that I agree. Loved the video. And your pictures too. Please forgive the comment. I gave into comment temptation.
@WesPerry
3 жыл бұрын
No worries. Just discourse ;) Having a background in theatre, I’m more accustomed to the traditional meaning of pathos, which is any appeal to elicit emotion, part of the three appeals of persuasion, Pathos, Ethos and Logos: charleshstewart.com/blog/ethos-logos-and-pathos/
@frogfrogu
3 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry Oh, interesting. I just learned something. Thanks!
@normski4ash
4 жыл бұрын
Once more my friend, another great vlog ! Point 1. I think the 70-135mm "Portrait" lens works great in a studio, boring black or white backdrop, makes the proportions seem right. Point 2. As per Tip 6, Break it ! Watch you tube vids on the rule of turds (oops sorry Typo, "Thirds" ) and after ranting on for eons about the aesthetics of the composition (whatever that means) they will then say, " But Hey ! Rules are made to be broken ! " So why harp on about it ? Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh... I love getting down low with my Canon (sorry for swearing there) 17-40mm on my A7III, and taking shots at 17mm... Get as much in as possible, especially if the background suits, that's why we go out on location shooting, How many people go to the most boring, or ugliest place they can find to take shots ? NONE ! So why not include the gorgeous scenery that you have found in the shots. Hey it only takes seconds to swap out a lens and get some tight shots too... Try both, see what you prefer... Rant over, Cheers M8...
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
It’s usually best to break the rules once you already know them. Then you have a greater of awareness of what you’re doing and are making a more intentional composition choice rather than just trial and error. (Usually) And I generally shoot with two bodies on me, one with the 16-35GM and one with the 85GM, so I can appease both parts of my brain 😏
@normski4ash
4 жыл бұрын
@@WesPerry Yes at a wedding I'll shoot 2 bodies, but on a portrait shoot I only use the one. Good point, follow what the "pro's" say to be safe until you know/understand what you are doing, then play. Same with any genre of photography, or anything in life I suppose, I purposely went out (maybe even several times) using the trial and error method, and developed a style that I like, and so do the clients hopefully !!! which has given me a good understanding of what works and what doesn't. Practice makes purrfect ! Where is tiddles today ? didn't see him in the vid... Cheers
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
Maggie, it turns out, was hunting a mouse (in the house). He pulls his weight around here. 😉
@sjm.photos
4 жыл бұрын
😍
@FrankP83
4 жыл бұрын
So...learn rules to brake🤗
@WesPerry
4 жыл бұрын
👌🏻
@don_tpanic6052
Жыл бұрын
Why Jeff Bezos is talking about portraits on youtube?
@WesPerry
Жыл бұрын
Even the rich can fall on hard times, my friend 😏
@JTroker
Жыл бұрын
I don't like it. People are too small and too far. I rather stay with the old method. Do you want to show that you are innovative, so be it. I don't like little people in the photograph that can't recognize.
@WesPerry
Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, not everyone is looking at photos on their phone ;)
@CollapsedCapacity
3 жыл бұрын
Your video is very addictive to talking yourself a lot. This video is some malarkey.
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