This is my first real venture into the world of trackday tuition videos, if you'd like to see more of this type of stuff just let me know! Thanks for watching as always everyone!
@margysan
3 жыл бұрын
Im a 53 year old man who is thinking of buying a bike i long for the 2 strokes of my youth (I had many lol AR 125 then Rd 350 lc then Tzr 125 then Rd 250 dx then onto old ones (Suzuki Gt 380 and a 750 ) )what would you advise me to get to ease back into riding again.
@Millga
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I’ve been riding trackdays for years now and never had instruction on circuit, I do however love a tuition video, you guys doing the videos have the time to really break stuff down and explain why what you’re telling us works. Also it’s nice hearing different techniques. Big thumbs up for more videos from me :)
@luckyoleary9626
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely mate! Great video!
@hughiemg2
3 жыл бұрын
Yes more track day videos would be great please. Either track technique or circuit guides of the UK circuits.
@shadowred1980
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, please do some more if you get chance.
@thematurbo240
3 жыл бұрын
Had both. Love the power of the 1000 but the 600 I had lots of fun! Making that zx6r engine screaming at 16k rpm is orgasmic!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
😎
@neilpearce7032
3 жыл бұрын
The mighty GSXR 750 every time for me. Great advice for any one getting started.
@rogerthat10-47
3 жыл бұрын
I've just put a 750 top end on a 600 bottom end & it is unbelievably fast, quite a bit of work to dial it all in, but definitely worth it. I do believe the GSXR750 is one of the most underrated bikes on the planet, with just a little bit of work they can be as fast as a great many 1000's, they are still down on the power of some of the 1000's but they have less weight, so the power/weight is excellent.
@ElMuelio
3 жыл бұрын
I also really rate my GSXR750, still loads to learn with my track riding but I tend to be in the top half of inters. I still find it intimidating compared to most other bikes I've ridden though, definitely don't want anything faster.
@rogerthat10-47
3 жыл бұрын
@@ElMuelio Far too many people choose bikes that are too much for them, it's nice to hear someone that is honest with themselves about their riding. very few people's abilities are better than the bike they ride, just because they can afford it, doesn't mean they can ride it. I wish you safe rides & 1st place's.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Neil!
@henrylewin7677
3 жыл бұрын
Just got mine so I can go faster than I would on the Tuono - 1000 sports would be too much for me I think...
@1mick66mick66
3 жыл бұрын
The major draw back of a 600 on a track day, for the average rider, is overtaking slower riders on faster bikes. They slow you up in the corners, bugger off on the exits and you end up getting frustrated. Its often less hassle on a 1000, as you can make progress easier.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
True!
@PAD32
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I'm having a lot more fun since I went from 600 to 1000, for that reason, and also because having to control the throttle on corner exit (in order not to die) instead of always being full throttle is more enjoyable to me. And for the people saying that a 600 is more flickable, maybe but I never found handling to be an issue on my 1000...
@leanit5756
2 жыл бұрын
For sure. Lower power bikes suck on track days due to the slow riders who show up on fast bikes and who are constantly in the way, and often who make erratic moves. Especially bad in the slow and intermediate groups. Liter bikes make dealing with them way safer and less frustrating.
@timvangool291
2 жыл бұрын
I had this struggle on Mugello. I rode a 600RR and the others S1000RR's. Everytime i was able to get them in the last sector in chicanes. Heading onto the finish straight they flew by like rockets and i could start all over again :D
@joshlewis5065
2 жыл бұрын
That's even a problem for me on a FZ07. There were a few people I could even catch up to that were on R1 bikes and stuff that I would get stuck behind constantly on curves because I couldn't pass them on straights.
@sv650nyc7
3 жыл бұрын
So the answer seems to be: Suzuki GSX-R 750
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Yep 😎
@SteveC-Shaman
3 жыл бұрын
I regret selling mine.
@truevegas
3 жыл бұрын
Long live the GSXR750!
@blickmech5248
3 жыл бұрын
@@tmac77 nnnnnnn.nnnnnbnnnn.nnnn
@johnowen9299
3 жыл бұрын
I concur x
@tomasnilsson1669
3 жыл бұрын
4:28 "I've seen novices unknowingly ride bikes in the damp on dry tyres getting away with murder" - Comment of the year!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@czierwo
3 жыл бұрын
I did so as a track marshall too. Person rode over the edge being saved by traction control all the time. Once tires started going, bike was wobling on corner exits more. I was expecting a crash, but end of the day saved rider's ass. At least in my opinion. Totally agree with 600s over 1000s for novices. When I took my zx10r on track for the first time and felt fairly intimidated by it as it was stupid powerful at every throttle input. Stupid fun too! Now I just kept my 10r for street only and got myself zx6r as a track beater...
@flo66r6
2 жыл бұрын
Back in the days (from 2000 to 2004) I raced an R6 and was pretty fast (on a novice level) and had a lot of fun. My R6 had abround 123 HP on the wheel and I really squeezed it. In Most and in Brno (Czech Republic) I got the chance to test ride a Kawasaki ZX 10 with 175 HP (almost stock) and it scared the shit out of me. When the front didn't got up, the rear wheel slided and vise versa. None of my breaking points, shifts and gears fitted anymore. It was interesting but I was a lot slower than on my R6. So, I would say if you have the physique for a 600cc and want to have fun, just go for the 600. 1000 cc bikes on the track (were) real monsters. And please consider, we didnt have any electronics, ABS or anything besides a quickshifter and a flashing light that indicated when to kick in the next gear back in 2000.
@TungstenCarbideTempe
2 жыл бұрын
Good comment. I agree with you regarding personal physique and a bike size. I remember having a 96 Kawasaki zx6r back in 2002. Im 5’11” and I looked good on that bike. My friend, who’s a bit shorter then me, also looked good, however my brother is 6’3” , tall dude and when he’d riding that thing, he’d look like he’s riding a moped/pocket bike. It just didn’t look right. Imagine an adult riding little kid’s bicycle lol. And even though by bike size, you guys mean - engine size/power, not the actual motorcycle dimensions, I think looks kinda matter too,
@Richie_
Жыл бұрын
I had a GSXR1100 then. Scary
@ElsinoreRacer
3 жыл бұрын
"More fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." Same with bikes. No one honestly cares what bike you own, and why would you care? Get the fun one.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly that!
@s1dew1nd3r4
3 жыл бұрын
@@tmac77 iv got a L9 zxr400, 900 fireblade and a rsv mille - i have just as much fun on the zxr400 than the others, can ride it harder and faster and as you said much more nimble... one thing i will ask is, i really want to get to grips with how the bike wheelies/slides an what it feels like to have more control - is there anywhere you would recommend to go and get to grips with that?
@usbsol
3 жыл бұрын
125cc vs 1250cc?
@984francis
3 жыл бұрын
The most enjoyable bike I have had was a Moto Guzzi LeMans. Bugger all power but lots of performance which doesn't sound right but it is so.
@ElsinoreRacer
3 жыл бұрын
@@s1dew1nd3r4 In the dirt. Dirt bikes slide and wheelie and everything else the same, but at much lower speeds and on a softer surface. All the great road-racers learned in the dirt. There is a reason for that. You crash 100 times in the dirt so you DON'T on pavement. You just dust off and laugh.
@Quazi1966
3 жыл бұрын
Good advice from a level headed talented rider. Being the 55 year old child that I am, I need a 1000cc to help hide the lack of talent, I did have a 750 and yes I did ride it faster than my 1000 I'd say, for the very reasons you have highlighted, but I was also a good bit younger. :-) Still doing trackdays, 20 years of them now, UK and Europe, still enjoy doing them at whatever speed, I do alright for an older git on my gsxr1000r. Keep them coming, and good luck in your coming season.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I don’t think there’s such a thing as being too old to ride bikes, just ask my dad!
@Quazi1966
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheInfantry98 your point?
@jayjackson9112
3 жыл бұрын
55 is still young, about the same age as my dad, I've recently bought an r1 and would love to get my dad out riding a bike with me.
@johnpaquin366
Жыл бұрын
I love how throughout the video you make a statement which brings up a question or two.. and almost immediately you answer my unasked questions... well done
@vtranmoto
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid and points. I was split between the 600 or 1000 decision and ended up going for that 3rd in-between option and got a KTM RC 8C. Couldn’t be happier :)
@DrKage
Жыл бұрын
To me trust is more important than power I'm scared to use and I'm gonna push the limit earlier, but yeah once you can handle it I prefer power 😊
@AntaresSQ01
3 жыл бұрын
4:35 This is a very valid point. My S1000XR is easier to handle in the wet than my old Ninja 650 was with no ABS or TC.
@ericsbuell
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this Taylor. I'm currently 61 years old and been riding bikes from about 11-12 years of age. Your comments about the 1000cc bikes I concur...big torque trying to overpower the rear tyre and just when think it's found grip it hooks up and wheelies.At the moment I ride a modified 2002 Yamaha R1 5PW and a 2004 BuellXB9R Firebolt. The only places I can really enjoy on the R1 is the Isle Of Man, Nurburgring and unrestricted roads abroad. I dont know if anyone reading has realised that in my opinion riding a 1000cc bike in the UK quickly you spend most of your time BRAKING to legal speeds...where's the fun in that. My younger friends are trying to get me to Knockhill for a session but I had really considering a less aggressive bike so I'm going to recommission my Ducati 748.Also fond fond memories of watching your dad scudding round Knockhill especially on the CMW35 & 36's, still got a ten pound note signed by him. Keep up the good work.🏍🏍
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jimmy6283
Жыл бұрын
This channel is underrated for me
@djg9589
3 жыл бұрын
Too many Willy wavers on 1000’s at track days that have no idea how to ride 😂
@captainslav6528
3 жыл бұрын
It's quite funny when they get overtaken by a 250 after they run their mouth about how they have a ''real bike''.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
No comment!
@jaromor8808
3 жыл бұрын
@@captainslav6528 i bet you never even witnessed anyone saying such b/s (save for some banter among friends)
@captainslav6528
3 жыл бұрын
@@jaromor8808 I've had idiots talk a lot of crap to me , they get embarrassed real quick on their ''real bikes''. It's always the ones talking crap or reving their engines in parking lots or making lots of noise that are slow. I'm not even that good on a bike but there's a lot of idiots and squids on big bikes that talk a lot of bs and it's not hard to make them look silly.
@fasthracing
3 жыл бұрын
Somewhat embarrassed to admit my wife was quicker on a CBR600 round Donnington Park than I was on a 1000 Fireblade.
@lamontcranston8181
3 жыл бұрын
Nah man, that’s great that she was quicker. It sets a bar for you to try and reach and exceed. While it gives her confidence and pride. Plus the both of you can trade info on what you were doing to achieve the speeds and times you do. So it’s good individually and as a couple. I applaud your wife for her ability and achievements and you for telling the world about it. 😎👍 very cool that you have a wife who not only appreciates something you enjoy but also partakes and gives you a run for your money. Respect to you both.
@fasthracing
3 жыл бұрын
@@lamontcranston8181 thank you for your kind words
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing embarrassing about that, you can both share tips!
@fasthracing
3 жыл бұрын
@@tmac77 Was hoping you would say that a 600 is the bike to have at Donnington to save my blushes!
@mcsbikelife3829
Жыл бұрын
I started on a 600 all through the ranks then got a smoking deal on a new r1 race bike and just love it . Learned my corner speed on a 600 and now have power works well . Though 600s are awesome bikes can’t go wrong with either .
@dose8738
3 жыл бұрын
when a racer says the word "fast"....it's just got so much more meaning. Cheers broski.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@weejim48
Жыл бұрын
Great to get some good information from an actual track racer. For my own point of view, “ if you can’t use the power you don’t need it “. Good video thanks. 👍
@casefarley5744
3 жыл бұрын
Subbed for the Prodigy poster. 600 is easier to wrangle around a track, and it will always be faster than I am capable of riding. So it's a 600 for me.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha legends! Thank you
@speedtwitch
3 жыл бұрын
That's why I love my 2009 ZX-10R. Last gen of literbike with no aids (no TCS, ABS, Power modes, wheelie control, etc). ALL manual and ALL raw.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Proper bike 😎
@speedtwitch
3 жыл бұрын
@@tmac77 yea, thanks. It was my first ever street bike as well - I have been riding the piss out of it and haven't looked back. A liter bike can be a good first bike in the right situation for the right guy. i.imgur.com/Kt4seE4.jpeg
@findus605
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Taylor, in my own track experience i thought i had mastered the six hundred at RH race school until it launched me over the highside coming out of the Melbourne loop, the humiliation of the truck ride back was more painful than the bang on the bonce 😂😂👍
@FunAllDayLong4353
3 жыл бұрын
Just admit, for one mighty second as the tyre span up coming out of the corner, you felt like Rossi. And then it gripped..... 😂
@findus605
3 жыл бұрын
@@FunAllDayLong4353 Hi Peter, i was on my bonce before i knew it, there was a connection with Rossi but i felt more like his Granny 😂😂👍
@FunAllDayLong4353
3 жыл бұрын
@@findus605 LMAO
@Kraven83
3 жыл бұрын
The YT algorithm has chosen well! Very interesting content
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sosmotorcycles
2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first 1000 this year a 2021 MT10 and before this I had a 07 Zx6r and before that a 02 r6. Had my first track day this year and can say for sure I would be faster on my 600, just felt sketchy holding speed smooth on my bike
@chrisgoes9610
3 жыл бұрын
I hired a 600 for Cadwell Park (Having just written off my S1000r). I actually achieved a PB on a new bike i had never ridden before and faster than my own litre bike. Fully agree you can lord it over a 600 and really rev the nuts off it. The litre bikes demand more respect. If its a fun factor you are after 600 wins the day. If you want to learn your craft the 600 is the way to go - but i am not sure i will trade in my litre bike. (I run in the middle of the inters)
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they’re such fun bikes aren’t they!
@dustinbjohnson
11 ай бұрын
Really good unbiased video. Thanks man 🍻
@robbikebob
3 жыл бұрын
My ideal track bike would be a sub 500 single or twin with wide, high bars, in a slow, novice group, surrounded by people who were less confident than me on bikes that were equally inappropriate! 😅
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha😂
@killer2miller23
2 ай бұрын
All great points. Solid video 👌
@Lunsomat3000
Жыл бұрын
Great video! New Riders: start with a ninja 300 or similar and master it before launching a 600cc. It's a journey!
@TomasUjhelyi
3 жыл бұрын
I just love the R6 and the fact once you get it over 11k rpm it just keeps on pulling and the sound is addictive
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@myboy051
Ай бұрын
For the longest time I loved my 07 gsxr 750 on the track. Bit faster than the CBR 600 I had. The 750 made it easy to move into the 1000.
@Mr.EeToMyself
Жыл бұрын
Interesting subject... Indeed, its one I've always loved. I ride a bike that is the legend of all. The 1992 Zx-7. And my best friend rode a 1991 CBR600 F2. We had the best of times. Raced them everywhere. It was always the same. He coukd get off to a bestter start. About two bike lengths. Maybe about a hundred is where I'd catch him. And top speed was higher on the 750 at 164.5. Whike the 600 was about 158. I thought the 600 might have been a mire comfortable ride. Its handlebars were almost 4 inches higher. The 750 is the lowest front end I've ever done a pushup on.
@filtrakioldhorborn
3 жыл бұрын
lets not forget the noise that 600's have , they rev much higher and it adds to the fun factor
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@ianmurray3820
2 жыл бұрын
The best example of this fun factor trackday situation was watching Graham Crosby and Wayne gardener thrash the old school superbikes !!!( 1980’s )moriwaki Kawasaki and the yoshimura Suzuki ) around donnington park.. they did a couple of laps on the pace of the 500 2 strokes but once the air cooled motors went off a bit and the tyres gave up, they spent the rest of the race sliding out of the corners, pulling tandem wheelies, stoppies the lot… now that’s a fun trackday, as opposed to chasing lap times that you may never reach… just enjoy the ride on whatever….. but mainly leave your pride in the car park, there’s usually gonna be someone faster….Typically an ex super bike race winner on an old shitter going round the outside and laughing…..!!!!….. p.S. maybe you should send Scotty out on a turbo busa just before he jumps on the moto 3 bike.. !!??
@ninja12lawbreaker
3 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense Taylor. Personally never done a track day, unfortunately, Never had a 600 either, I went 125, 750 and 6 months later bought a brand new Thunderace, what a tool that was, great low down torque
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
😎😁
@TheVentman69
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant again mate 👏 I've just switched from a 2002 f4i to a street triple 765 rs first trackday on it at donnigton next month can wait to see what the difference is loved the cbr served me well for last 3 years on a fair few trackdays.I ride a 2020 tuono v4 factory on the road and thought the street triple with more or less same riding position would be a cool track bike 👍👍👍keeps the vlogs coming mate really enjoy them
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
That's exciting good luck! Thank you
@5ebra1
3 жыл бұрын
Never done a track day and don’t have a bike at the moment but I really enjoyed the video. You have a great way of presenting information. Well done.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@Sven-og2qr
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the part of "the only reason people ever feel the need to is getting annoyed getting passed on the straights"... yeah it´s annoying but I have my fun passing them in the infield again :) Loving my Daytona for that. IMHO you don´t need the latest incarnation of Johnny Rea´s bike to have fun on trackdays. You just find the people with similar lap times and race them. Then you completely forget about the faster and slower ones and have fun the whole day long :)
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Well said 😁👍🏼😎
@Krom1hell
2 жыл бұрын
Broke the bank and bought a 1000 cc bike.... 1 month on pit mode 6 months on half power and then the rest is history.... but I sometimes tend to think that on more technical track days the lightest bike is far better than the fastest one...
@PandaStencils
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. And I love my middle-ground 750!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to beat them!
@jnrgomes7417
3 жыл бұрын
i sold my 07 r1 and got a 2011 r6 for club racing i love the r6 those bikes are a bunch of fun
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@Jamesb944
3 жыл бұрын
I love my 675, but I would like a few more horses and a quick shifter would make a massive difference. I don't get out on it enough to justify the upgrades right now.
@6arethevan5
3 жыл бұрын
Another cracking and informative vid, thanks for sharing 👍 I run a 98 zx9r, it's a solid old lump that takes everything you chuck at it.... including tarmac 🤦🏻 it's been fab to learn on (still a lot of learning to do!) But I've now started to track ready my 06 636 which I still use on the road. Both are amazing fun but I he old 9 does feel more reassuring and planted.......I'll leave the VFR1200 complete with panniers as a pure road bike.....for now 😳😂😂👍
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha😂
@iancooper8728
3 жыл бұрын
I think a 600 for track days and if you are going racing as a professsion it's the 600 then 1000 route,but i have notice the lap times between superstock and superbike are note that far off of each other a some of the uk tracks. Good video Taylor can't not wait for the season to start ,all the best mate stay safe
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian!
@steventaylor2932
3 жыл бұрын
I've had a gixxer 6 and I've had a Fireblade. The blade wins hands down.
@kevinknapp7361
3 жыл бұрын
Same except Honda 600RR. Blade is fun stuff. Love the 1000's.
@RaceLab37
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video. I only love to ride a bike that I can ring the neck of! So for me, it's a C90.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lesthegreat
3 жыл бұрын
It's been a GSX-R 750 for me for the last 10 years but I'm going to 1000 start of next year.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@j3xy342
3 жыл бұрын
I came to sportbikes from an mt07 with stage 2 I ain't afraid of no wheelie😎😎
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha I bet!
@Favk21
3 жыл бұрын
Been pondering these things quite a long time... very informative video. Thank you!
@MinhVu-in9iz
11 ай бұрын
Yea, my dream bike is the gsxr 750 but the Honda cbr1000rr 2012 or the 2017 model looks good!! For now my ninja 400 is enough, I have fun riding that hard!!
@kevinmccaffrey5923
2 жыл бұрын
great video guy.. everyone that wants to ride fast and grab turns with knee on the ground.. they should lern with nothing on the bike but tires the trottle, steering damper.. you will be a much skillful rider if you learn on a bike without all the tecnollgy of the late 2015 plus bikes.. Guys like Rossi have amazing skill bc of the bikes he came up on!!
@quackyduck1499
3 жыл бұрын
I like the 600's because mentally I feel I am above them. Like I can ring it's neck and get the most out of it. And I can go all day on a 600. For mine the biggest difference is braking, hard braking. Backing a 600 in and dropping it over hard, I'm a lot more confident than on a litre bike.
@marksfarmcraft1888
3 жыл бұрын
It has been 10 years, but when I ran and worked the corners at the track in Seattle, the 600 had the fastest track times. I think this is for the reason you made Taylor...you can run it harder, with more confidence. The Seattle track is pretty short, so you can't really open up a 200hp 1000. V-twins, like Ducati's and my SV1000 did well because of the wider power band and engine breaking. Thanks for the vid...please keep them coming!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Mark!
@raynic1173
3 жыл бұрын
Best thing I ever did was stopped trying to do track days on my GSXR 750 and purchased a used crashed GS 500e for track day use. I had real caution with the 750, as the track we went to most, had a first gear bus stop type of turn. The 750's first gear was really snatchy and intimidating and I was always worrying about the gas hitting to hard, spinning up and tossing the bike there. Because of this concern it would also distract me as a braked and approached the turn. So, needless to say the turn was a total mess and I was constantly get passed there. The next season I really wanted to do more more track days and that meant more money. One guy who was a guest instructor raced a Kawa EX500, he was a several times regional champion and was crazy fast on that thing. During that next year a friend of mine crashed his GS 500e on the street. I purchased the bike and rebuilt her. I threw on a gsxr front end for adjustability and stopping power (which ended up being over kill) and also upgraded the rear shock; one other improvement was to get a slightly wider rear rim so I could fit more available/standard modern sport tires. I had less than $1K in to her. Within three track days I was doing lap times equal to my 750 and was having a blast. That lap time reflects the fact that my 750 had ~ 130 hp and my 500 had ~ 40 hp; yes I said 40! There's a saying, it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than ride a fast bike slow. What I found was this: -the GS500 felt like a toy, it seemed light weight and was easy to flick about. -The hp was totally not intimidating and way more forgiving. -The GS500 was way cheaper to run, primarily because I wasn't chewing up tires. Racing wise, 750's were installing new tires every race weekend. I needed only two sets to get thru the season! They where spending a minimum of $300 - 400 just on tires every weekend! -Because my mind had this new found freedom I was actually able to concentrate more on technical skills of track riding. All the, be smooth on and off the gas, on and off the brakes stuff, Down shifting... -because there wasn't much power that meet minimal braking and maximum corner speed was needed to get a fast lap. This brings me to one of the biggest stumbling blocks for new track day riders imho, corner speed. Most street riding gives little clue to what a motorcycle can do when it comes to lean angles of the bike and corner speed. We've spent most all of our lives turning in either cars or bikes not "going to fast" around a corner, that's dangerous. So our brains and bodies are not acclimated, let alone conditioned, for pulling a full G around a corner and leaning a bike over may be 30 degrees. -The following year I decided to take a race licensing course, primarily to get more track time. I ended up improving my lap time by 20 sec. that year. I went from running in the back to running mid pack to actually winning a race, partially by attrition, but non the less, a wins a win. I was regularly beating Ex500's with 50 + hp and SV650's with 60+ hp. - My opinion on the easy of riding the 500 was that although it weighed almost the same as the 750, it had way less reciprocating mass. The tires and wheels where lighter and so was the engine internals. All that is quite a bit less in gyroscopic mass that has to be redirected when stopping and cornering. -Any who, my recommendation would be for new track day folks to get small bikes 300's SV650's, RS660's absolutely great for learning on and way less expensive. Ciao.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Great advice!
@patrickfay1055
3 жыл бұрын
Would love to know what you’re dad thinks of all the electronic help riders have today ps loved this video
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll ask on a future interview!
@specialcircs
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, my Street Triple 765 is as much bike as I'll ever need, at my competence level
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@Richie_
Жыл бұрын
I remember going from a GP100 as a learner in late 80's to a CX 500cc and was confused when I felt engine braking for the 1st time. I though there was something wrong. I had a go on a CBR1100 Blackbird and didn't like the weight. Didn't like slow.
@michaels8638
3 жыл бұрын
I have two bikes, 675 Daytona if am trying to increase corner speed learning to be competitive, without rider aides, wanting to be at full chat for longer. My S1000RR for the rush on the straight, pulling power wheelies more madness, using slide control on the cornering, more effort more fun, and for reminding me to respect the bike, be careful and how much I don’t know.
@delboy6384
3 жыл бұрын
I like your plan of works
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’ve got it all!
@PEZ1514
Жыл бұрын
600 with full brake and suspension setup. Also yes super mids are the best all around solutioin
@tpespos
3 жыл бұрын
I have fun on my 250. 36 HP bike. I truly can’t imagine riding something with 200 HP but I want to someday
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
It's all about having fun 😁💪🏼
@BudgieFan101
2 жыл бұрын
Statistically an E Scooter like a Kaabo King GT is better on paper.
@LastingImpressionbenkawizx
3 жыл бұрын
In the australian superbike championship the 600 class is nearly lapping as fast as the suuperbike class... and some tracks they lap exactly the same pace
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
How interesting!
@DamienTanner1
3 жыл бұрын
Really great video and I totally agree. For road, I'd take 1000cc for low down power and flexibility, for track they are all fun in their own way. I've raced an RVF400 and that was incredible fun (with no power!)
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely true, they’re all fun in their own way!
@EmperorNerox
2 жыл бұрын
1000 is fast....750 was perfect for me. If you're a beginner best to get ninja 250 or something to learn corner speed n keeping your momentum. 600 if the choice between that n a 1000 if ur new
@davetaylor4741
2 жыл бұрын
Had bikes for large chunk of my life. Grew up around bikes. Supposedly taken to my first race at three weeks old. Still own a Triumph Speed Triple T509. My biggest problem never had that much aptitude for riding them. Had all sorts from 200cc to GSXR1100L which was the best bike I ever owned and the one I found the easiest to ride and live with. To me it was like a comfy armchair it just fitted me. On the other hand I had a Kawasaki ZXR 750 that was permanently trying to kill me and destroy my wedding tackle every time I braked. Totally uncomfortable. The bike I always wanted and never got a GSXR 750. I have never done a track day as I have never felt good enough and didn't want to look an idiot. Admire people that can ride well and often wish I was one of them.
@andrewcharlton3288
3 жыл бұрын
Have a 2014 600 on the road and bought 1999 750 for first track bike for £800 and love it
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@karlwilkins3285
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video 👍
@tmac77
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karl
@yorkshirefox791
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Taylor quality vlog. I hope you're playing out on Tuesday so you can show me how to ride my 1000. I smashed my 600 up last week 😁🤦♂️
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@madviking1320
2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I have a ZX-6R and ZX-9R that both see track duty. I'm faster on the 6. Even though I'm a hard-core kawasaki fan, I bought a GSX-R750 for the street. Perfect cc. It won't get tracked for a few years, but I am looking forward to it!
@madviking1320
2 жыл бұрын
If you find yourself full-throttle on the side of the tire, it's time to move up to a 1000. Most of us amateurs will honestly never do that.
@marktod2447
2 жыл бұрын
I ride on the road the 600 is a better bike got a guy at work into it passed his test with te guys he works with told him trust 👍 the tyres he's slow he has a sv650 me a bandit 600 I've raced a sv650 I was spinning up bamp roads but I was there right be hind him trust your tyres you'll move on great commentary taran
@derekgray7716
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Taylor. I'll always remember my first track day in the rain at Croft with your good self on my brand new 1000 😲 and still had a mega time 👍🏻
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha I bet you did!
@kendrick_not_lamar
3 жыл бұрын
The Bathams livery has to be some of the nicest out there on the track. May not win the race but your bikes will snap up all the "Best Dressed" awards easily!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
And hopefully win a few races too😅
@joshowens65
3 жыл бұрын
I agree on the 750 i rode one not long ago and they’re seriously good fun. Just enough I feel For anyone just wanting to enjoy teackdays👍
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@stephenkennedy3145
3 жыл бұрын
The Gsxr750 is an amazing machine
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it just!
@Delboysparody
3 жыл бұрын
Great point of view advice Taylor. Totally agree and well put.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter!
@stevethomas4615
3 жыл бұрын
Good vid Taylor - wise words. Good luck with your racing 😁👍
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@TrollingHistory
3 жыл бұрын
Dude my neighbour got himself a Cbr1000rr it was an absolute monster I asked him wtf you doing with that. Never seen him ride and just never expected it. Like damn. I asked him what other bikes have you owned? He said none but I did ride a pittbike. My jaw hit the floor then he jumped on it and went. He was wobbly off the drive down the drop kerb the bike ran away alittle but he stuck it lined on road then ripped it. Getting faster n faster. Just a toy to him
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@richardb285
3 жыл бұрын
Very good timing. I am thinking of upgrading my 600 to a 750 or 1000 right now but to an "old school" 1000 with no electrics. I am thrashing the life out of the 600 which is great but a touch worrying for cost of expensive engine troubles that may follow. The lack of electrics on the new to me 1000 is frightening me a little, but the HP is lower than the 200bhp of modern bikes. Still 160 - 180 bhp though. A conundrum for sure.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha brilliant! Good luck!
@davidwilson8010
3 жыл бұрын
Verry good comments bro and starting slow is always safe and till you get much better and a 750 is the best bike to have..you know have to know how to use ur gears when you ride..good vedio bro..
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@Bsteazy
3 жыл бұрын
Two days in on my first 750 - top bike 👌🏼
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@bellend69
3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. 750 is definitely the answer but next to no one other than Suzuki makes them anymore. I have a GSX-R 750 and it is my third. I love them but not sure what's next as although they are available in some areas, I am not sure they sell them in the UK anymore which is a real shame. I have ridden most of the sports 600's and 1000's over the years and have always stuck with the 750 as it is the best of both worlds. Great on the road and more than capable on any track day.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@barrymccloskey
3 жыл бұрын
Informative vid, all bases covered. Look at road racing where you have guys competeing together on both sizes. 600's, well set-up and ridden beating 1000's no problem. Track riding is a bit different but for road riding, spinning it up and whellies will get you in bother never mind the fun! I had an NRS 250 and little experience and always remember a guy on an V-Max leaving me for dead on the bends coming back from Kirkistown when I didn't know the roads. Experience and knowledge folks!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Screamifyoumeanit
3 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my 96 750 SRAD for pushing & learning... Until the other one seems like a good idea... It'll look lovely in my living room in the meantime!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂
@rogerthat10-47
3 жыл бұрын
Imhho all these "Nannie" systems are taking the skill out of riding, I believe in some cases they can even be quite dangerous, add to that the weight & cost of them & it starts getting bad, I've just stripped one out of a Triumph I took 100lb's off it, that's the same weight of my wife. I must say it's refreshing to hear some sense from a young rider. I'm currently riding a "Gassed" Suzuki RG "Gamma" 500 it is blisteringly quick & it handles very nicely, it's currently upsetting a lot of "Superbike" riders.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
True!
@rogerthat10-47
3 жыл бұрын
@@tmac77 If this was your first vlog, then you're going to do alright.
@karlchandler5824
2 жыл бұрын
Depends what your after but I was impressed with the triumph 675 you can sling them around like a 125 like the old days on my tzr 125 r still in shed btw 😁 now I cruise around on a 1050 r still great fun but predictable which is great for the older rider but the older 600s where massive fun the CBR or R6 the f6 gsxr750 great for when you have a little more experience modern day bikes of that size are tame mt07 etc whatever you are on have fun and don't ride above your ability it hurts 😁😆
@Wildandfree903
3 жыл бұрын
Once again brilliant a couple of questions if you could answer. 1, ear plugs for the road I have moulded one but notice track guys don't seem to use them why? 2. I competed in various motorsport of road events 2 and 4 I'm 56 I'd love to learn track riding just for track days am I to old and is it worth going to a school. Many thanks, Ian MaC.
@macho1212
3 жыл бұрын
1.I'm not fully sure but I'd probably say that it's maybe for safety reasons or something. 2. If it is something you would like to do don't let age stop you! We only live once and you are never too old to do something you would enjoy, go treat yourself man, good luck!
@nsant
3 жыл бұрын
1. A lot of riders do wear them. The ones that don't like to hear their bike better. You can hear traction control working properly which inspires confidence which leads to speed.
@andrewrobinson1116
3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I absorb trackday vids like a sponge, so please do keep them coming. My (quite old) zx6 is so much fun. Having watched your video I can't see any reason to change it yet...
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll try my best to get more out!
@matspatpc
3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I think was slightly missing from this is that a bigger bike may be more suited to the slightly larger rider. Through "natural selection", many racers tend to be a bit smaller than the average person. As someone that is slightly taller and a little heavier than the average person - I think I'm about same height as Danny Buchan. I just moved from a 600 to a 1000cc bike - and I'm definitely still learning how to ride the new bike well - it definitely has more potential for wheelies and goes down the longer straights without running out of power. But one thing that I definitely can tell right now is that I have a little more space and I don't feel quite as hindered by me being a bit taller than average. (Some of that depends on exactly which 1000cc or 600cc bike it is - but if there's a size difference between models, the 1000cc bike tends to be a tiny bit bigger!) I have been riding more powerful bikes on the road for many years, but that's not quite the same - at least if you care about your license, it's nearly impossible to use the full power of any bike on the road for more than a couple of seconds - then you are in "bye, bye license" territory.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Very true! Thanks for that, it’s something I maybe don’t consider as it doesn’t affect me so thank you for pointing it out!
@samherbert1724
3 жыл бұрын
Love doin trackdays on my cbr 600rr ....great video as always
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam!
@letsdothis9996
3 жыл бұрын
Good work T,another gem🥳topic idea 💡 what about feeling on a bike ? How to push to feel tyres and suspension working in corners, what to look for !, ive done a few t days and can honestly say I have no clue how either of these feel ....just putting it out there
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Great points, definitely something for me to do in the future! Thank you
@cdmc012599
2 жыл бұрын
Good points.
@TopshelfJunior
3 жыл бұрын
SV650 owner, you know what I vote !!! lol.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
😂🤙🏼
@dodger132
3 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Taylor, very informative, keep them coming :-)
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roger!
@jsavage9134
3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day! All that matters is what the person riding thinks!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more!
@jaudicedbrow
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, for me the joy of trackdays is being able to mercilessly cane the bike, so it's 600cc. Much safer for the relatively unskilled rider (me).
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Haha true!
@NooBiker
3 жыл бұрын
Great overview, thanks!
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching 😁
@Kriller66
3 жыл бұрын
That‘s why i bought a 600ccm and 750ccm bike.
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Nice 😎
@Lee-uf4zu
3 жыл бұрын
T-m🔥c great vlog as always buddy. 600 or 1000 your always going to have fun round a circuit with the same smile on your face. i am at croft on the 1st of june on a Witham training day. hope you are there to teach our group would be a privilege being on track with a BSB rider👍. good luck for season mate. ✊✊
@tmac77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Lee
@wezg1
3 жыл бұрын
I have a gsxr 750 and I have a lot of fun on that on circuit. Im also not a small guy but with gearing and 1 or 2 mods, i give 1000cc a hard time.
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