Go deeper into fork settings and impressions on our site - www.vitalmtb.com/features/whats-best-enduro-fork-2024-enduro-fork-test-sessions
@cunning-stunt
20 күн бұрын
Manitou Mezzer Pro is the best Enduro fork and you couldn't get one to test?
@N8SecondRide
8 күн бұрын
I really want to know what your preferred settings were for the Rockshox Zeb on the rough and steep dh trails. I've played with my Lyrik a bit and have been preferring full compression on everything with 30% sag. Wonder if it could feel even better though if I added a token or two, increased the psi and brought the compression down a little. Any thoughts about that...?
@bigshnitzeljesse
20 күн бұрын
Like 99% of us, I watch in hopes you stroke my ego about the fork I purchased. Sadly my AliExpress FOOX 38 wasn't reviewed.
@ninjazzrhythm400
16 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@Cajo22
13 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@bitumen83
21 күн бұрын
I dont need any of these forks, but I love bike tech. Especially shocks and forks videos. Thanks Vital MTB 🤙
@mgillign
20 күн бұрын
The Öhlins is so good. Coming from the latest fox and RockShox I was pretty blown away. The harder you ride it the better it gets
@woidmoasta4673
18 күн бұрын
that was she said
@rockylocey4984
15 күн бұрын
to each their own i suppose...i could never get my ohlins to feel as good as a 38 with grip x2 personally
@pigwangb
8 күн бұрын
@@woidmoasta4673😂😂
@dmweyland
21 күн бұрын
Great job guys this is a great vid...Need to throw in there the manitiou mezzer pro and ext ERA and possibly the push nine one. i would love to see another vid with a back to back nine one vs fox 38 and ohlins 38
@andreadriao
21 күн бұрын
+1 Mezzer Pro
@jlcousineau
20 күн бұрын
Judging by their sales, a new mezzer pro is coming with the same updates that the mattoc saw. 🤞🏻🤞🏻hopefully soon
@danielray1558
20 күн бұрын
+1 to the n Push 9.1 would love to see some reviews on that
@woidmoasta4673
18 күн бұрын
agree Manitou made excellent forks.
@FunctionFIVE
18 күн бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and I instantly asked, where is the Mezzer pro and the EXT ERA
@DullBoyJack
18 күн бұрын
Would have liked to see the Marzocchi Super Z on this test as well- looks like another decent new option with a reasonable price.
@aurimasjablonskas1623
5 күн бұрын
Marzocchi Super Z is the same Fox basic 38 Rhythm. Why to review it when they got flagmen of each manufacturer? In this case you should test ZEB's lower modules etc.
@noahscrofani3105
Күн бұрын
@@aurimasjablonskas1623super Z has high and low speed compression now. So it’s a 38 with a Grip X damper, not a grip X2
@waynephilbert
20 күн бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put this group test together. It looks like a lot of work. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@thermonuculur
21 күн бұрын
+1 on Vital's impressions of Ohlins. The dual chamber gives you grip and support without sacrificing one for the other. Very tunable, calm, and durable. (no creaks!)
@pizza4921
20 күн бұрын
Formula fork also has a dual chamber in there race version of all there forks, I have the selva r which is the singe crown version with dual air chaimbers and its a game changer, allows you to dial in small bump and then also ramp up
@Prof-Power
17 күн бұрын
@@thermonuculur Formula fork is an order of magnitude higher than Ohlins, Fox and Sram. The other speaker is absolutely right. At the same time, no additional tokens are needed in the chamber! The entire adjustment is a change of CTS in 5 minutes right on the track. But first, you need to change Gold CTS to Blue or Red or Green.
@millerbrenthlei
21 күн бұрын
your market gives you options..!! After I'm done watching this the only access i have to is the Suntour XCM....😀😀
@obi-wankenobi9871
21 күн бұрын
While I think that the overall quality of the test is high, the overview sections are hard to listen to. Seemingly reading off the manufacturers marketing material does not improve video quality. A light weight test rider would have been a great addition.
@JeepingNet
21 күн бұрын
I really liked my Ohlins fork but then I put a fox 38 on my bike to try a slightly less travel and boy did it make me fall back in love with the ohlins when I put it back on it. It just works so well and if I'm going to bike park I'll increase the ramp up pressure and when I'm on a trail ride I'll drop it down. Its amazing but I'm still tempted to try the coil conversion.
@dito3478
5 күн бұрын
I have done the coil conversion with my 36 and never regret it. No more turning knobs and blablabla. Just ride. That said I never ridden with the 38.
@reviresurreccion732
17 күн бұрын
dope content! thanks for the reviews
@JaggedTusk
21 күн бұрын
Formula is on to something with an enduro dual crown that uses 15mm axles and tapered steerer tube. I promise you won't notice the reduced turning radius of a dual crown when going over 20mph.
@alexgordon8277
20 күн бұрын
but none of the big boys who tested found a benefit in stiffness, so...
@brandonarch2906
20 күн бұрын
@@alexgordon8277there is more to a DC fork than stiffness. I have a Dorado on my Patrol and there is a level of confidence it gives you that a SC cannot give. I really notice it when I go back forth between my bikes.
@boriscima8134
20 күн бұрын
on slow tech you will notice
@alexgordon8277
19 күн бұрын
@@brandonarch2906 dorado is a sick fork, I loved it back in 2014. 200 mm travel, hydraulic bottom out, so smooth and controlled. nothing to do with the fact that it's a dual crown. but what is it then? technically speaking, there is nothing but stiffness as far as I am aware. I don't believe in magic and wonders. placebo maybe?
@alexgordon8277
19 күн бұрын
@@boriscima8134 the reviewers haven't though.
@xuseg
21 күн бұрын
Manitou, ext, intend, marzocchi, mrp...
@kaiweber24
21 күн бұрын
There was a budget😂
@woidmoasta4673
18 күн бұрын
Yes Manitou made great forks. and that older marzocchi made in Italia man this old marzocchi forks are still my favorite Forks of all time.
@Prof-Power
17 күн бұрын
@@xuseg Intend was not included because it would tear everyone apart during the test. Although no! They will deliberately lower its ratings like Formula. Because they need to force hamsters to buy Sram, Fox, Ohlins forks.
@Squidsonbikeswithhats3958
21 күн бұрын
Yes! More of this!
@enduropeteSD
20 күн бұрын
The intro is filmed in basically my back yard. How do I never run into you guys!
@Shawn-in-da-Canyon
2 күн бұрын
This was a really good video and format. Please do the same with shocks, both air and coil.
@jayracer7474
20 күн бұрын
Very happy with my dvo 38
@unclewickedmtb2023
20 күн бұрын
Was definitely a little disappointed with the finish quality of the Onyx 38. The paint/powder coat chipped off in big chunks very easily. I’ve never experienced this with a Fox or RS fork. 😢
@notpablo8369
16 күн бұрын
few years ago i was in valparaiso watching the urban freeride i was impress by the rockshox zeb run by the Ghost bikes team💯💯💯
@sebastian_cervantes
20 күн бұрын
Great video! Really dig this format
@mikestivers8302
13 күн бұрын
i'm a light rider at 160lbs geared up, so an enduro fork only need be 35mm stanchions for me! i have a few, zeb-lyrik-diamond d1-fox 36- Helm mkii the standout is the zeb. running 180 for park days and it's ultra. the Helm is my #2 fave in the group. hard trail riding makes it sing..
@TexonStudio
21 күн бұрын
How about shocks?
@mikes.8305
21 күн бұрын
Shocks are so dependent on the suspension design as well as the intended focus of the bike it goes on. I don’t know if there is a universal way to get the best shock for all bikes. Perhaps categories for short travel, long travel, progressive, all rounders?
@RiderP411
21 күн бұрын
@@mikes.8305yes, too many variables in a whole system, like people think you need progressive linkage to run coil, but that's because linear linkages require progressive compression damping that's way outside the OEM range and bike brands just didn't bother for a custom tune.
@kingflynxi9420
21 күн бұрын
@@RiderP411 You can ride a linear bike with a progressive coil spring or HBO
@TexonStudio
21 күн бұрын
@@mikes.8305you're rights but from the video i see that guys rode different bikes so i can imagine that they would testing shock in various frames with different characteristics.
@wesleyoke8448
19 күн бұрын
We stuck the zeb ultimate on the wife's bike and I run the ohlins 38.. and I think it's so funny because this exactly summed our feelings up on what we were after and what they were. I'm always jealous of the zeb but then I ride the way I ride and the ohlins actors slightly more to that niche.. lol.
@aftondanforth7387
20 күн бұрын
fwi there is a small shim in the airspring of the ohlins rxf 38 m.2, when removed the small bump gets a lot better well still holding support
@justinmcnab5585
15 күн бұрын
I love these videos. Thanks for putting it together!
@martinhayes5087
20 күн бұрын
My Ohlins 38 fork was absolutely awful, I got it a couple of months after release, initially great, but after two rides it went super harsh, I could lift myself off the floor without the fork even compressing, it went back to ohlins 3 times for repair and they never solved it, ended up giving me a refund. Bought a Zeb afterwards and that's been fine from day one
@serjturischev9557
17 күн бұрын
thank you for that big review . guys.
@pulDag
20 күн бұрын
Ohlins is dewurst on slippery terain like wet stones or roots..
@ROSE-by5su
20 күн бұрын
You should do top 10 suspension tuners
@pawel102
18 күн бұрын
You know that in ohlins you have tokens in negative chamber? Ther is one for start, you can add one and have two or take one out and hava non this and 10-15% static sag givs you almoust coil spring fealing. Compresion tune for start is C40 is to litle for 80-90kg riders
@aurimasjablonskas1623
5 күн бұрын
Fox 38 29er goes in 180mm travel as well ;)
@Lou-f
20 күн бұрын
54:12 dampening 🤪
@johnconnolly2815
19 күн бұрын
WTH, no Manitou?
@mrvwbug4423
20 күн бұрын
Have not ridden the Ohlins, but I run a 38 and my bike and have ridden a few Zebs on other bikes. Between the two, I find the Zeb is a hair smoother off the top, and the 38 is just a hair more stable on big hits (probably the HSR coming into play). My personal preference is for the 38, but if my bike came with a Zeb instead I wouldn't be in any hurry to get rid of it. Interested to try the Ohlins.
@MonsterMX99
18 күн бұрын
Which model Fox 38 do you have? 2025?
@mrvwbug4423
18 күн бұрын
@@MonsterMX99 2023 38 Perf Elite, so Grip 2, no gold stanchions.
@Styrleden
18 күн бұрын
I ride a Öhlins rfx 36 m2 and i really love it when i ride ot hard, it just eats up all the abuse
@braveheart0317
18 күн бұрын
Wow great job 👍 guys
@ryansteiger6960
20 күн бұрын
thank you for the excellent video 😍
@SolidxSnakexDuke
17 күн бұрын
The old 26" Suntour Duro lux with 150mm tra´vel was a beast xD 15 jears old
@wbshoggoth6831
20 күн бұрын
I love my Formula Selva, while the Belva is too inconsistent in my opinion to compete with other forks.
@pizza4921
20 күн бұрын
I have the selva r and I love it
@pizza4921
20 күн бұрын
What cts do you run?
@kaiweber24
21 күн бұрын
Good videp
@bartoszligeza4803
19 күн бұрын
Great video. Do you plan on making DH forks test session?
@MrJob91
15 күн бұрын
Great video!
@jimmypereira830
20 күн бұрын
@3:32 that's in NJ, Mountain Creek. Crap shoot step up
@mikehomer3793
20 күн бұрын
Probably take best out of the title when you are not testing EXT, Push and Intend. Personally just got an Intend flash and its insane how much more mid support and traction it has over Fox 38 and Zeb, Intend and Push are alittle zesty on price for the normal market tho lol
@chasejiannalone8763
20 күн бұрын
Same here. 1 ride on my Intend Flash and I will never go back to conventional forks. My setup baseline was a guess and it was amazing
@cberg9480
17 күн бұрын
Mountain creek !
@davetscantech
17 күн бұрын
Was the negative air chamber spacer removed from the Ohlins? I have a 3.0 Zeb and the RFX38 and I found the Ohlins noticeably smoother over small chop, I thought I had low air pressure in my tire.
@hemtbexperience
20 күн бұрын
the background city at the beginning looks pretty cool, where is it?
@Sam-tk9tt
20 күн бұрын
I saw the SR Suntour Durolux38 on sale for $310 which makes it punch so much harder.
@tonyvaccarelli7950
17 күн бұрын
like to see you guys used a scott ransom as a test mule
@ninjazzrhythm400
16 күн бұрын
Will there be an OTT review in the future. For what gather, most reviews I've seen were just the SL and no OTT, which mean for heavy people?
@TheBMXrookie
17 күн бұрын
I live in Florida so I don't have to deal with the pnw and all of the extreme downhill and stuff. I have a trek Roscoe 9 and I'm looking to upgrade the fork. It comes with a fox Rhythm 36 140 mm but I'd like to put a Cane Creek 150 mm on it. is the Cane Creek Helm a decent Trail Fork. I also can't seem to find the helm Fender anywhere some help with this would be awesome guys thank you so much
@downhill_4_ever_leon
20 күн бұрын
Can you also test the downhill forks?😮
@Cevirus93
20 күн бұрын
I currently ride the Zeb and Vivid on my SC Nomad 6. In the past I was a fox fanboy. I've changed and won't go back (Sorry!) even though fox is still amazing. Cheers :)
@Prof-Power
17 күн бұрын
@@Cevirus93 Try Formula and you'll remember Sram and Fox as a bad dream. Seriously.
@trentvlak
12 күн бұрын
I was looking forward to you not being able to figure out the Manitou Mezzer settings. oh well.
@spayrex_
17 күн бұрын
i wonder how much worse a fox 38 performance with normal grip damper is and how much difference between zeb base and zeb ultimate is, since only the ultimate has the butter cups
@JeepingNet
21 күн бұрын
Would you ever consider the coil conversion for the ohlins?
@vitalmtb
21 күн бұрын
johan has one and will be posting his review of it in a couple weeks.
@JeepingNet
20 күн бұрын
@@vitalmtb Awesome I'll be excited to see that -- Currently can't find the coil conversion in Canada but hope to find it soon to try. Love the fact you can in theory switch back and forth.
@vitalmtb
20 күн бұрын
@@JeepingNet more than "in theory", it's super easy to swap back and forth. As for feedback on the coil, yep, it works great. In the right circumstances it's of course very smooth, but you do give up the high level of tunability that the dual-chamber air spring provides, so depending on the range of different trails you ride, you might be better off with the air set-up. Coil in a fork is pretty sensitive to spring weight, more so than a shock which works in tandem with the leverage ratio and curve of the frame.
@patrickmccormack1427
20 күн бұрын
Nice to see SunTour get a good review. Buy the ST fork and still have money for a shock, drive train, or almost a set of wheels.
@deanemberley2333
20 күн бұрын
it wasn’t that much cheaper. Like $400
@tomasstraka5244
18 күн бұрын
yeah and you will blow it up in 2 days of riding....
@g.w.customcreations3534
16 күн бұрын
@tomasstraka5244 they really aren't that bad. I had a 140/150mm aion a few years ago. In 18 months it never gave me an issue other than the axle being awkward to use. Used it for 70miles of commuting during the week, and 30-60miles of fun at the weekend, in all weathers, every week. It did xc, general trail thrashing, dirtjump, downhill, and a bit of everything on my hard-core hardtail. Never even had a leaky seal, and never serviced it till I sold the bike. Don't bag on them, they make good budget gear.
@radimpalus
15 күн бұрын
What is Your opinion about Manitou forks?
@HelplmAlive
20 күн бұрын
How come no Mezzer Pro or Ext Era?
@SlowMtbRider
21 күн бұрын
No EXT ?
@DrCrimp-sg5pb
20 күн бұрын
How could you forget EXT?
@turboraduno2825
21 күн бұрын
BRIGHT RACING SHOX (usd)
@TheFinnito
19 күн бұрын
especially after hearing your thoughts on the öhlins I woulf love to compare it to my mezzer pro. I had to habe the bushings calibrated but after that it became a very decent fork. Would like to do some testing....
@thermonuculur
19 күн бұрын
I owned both a Mezzer and Ohlins' RXF36 and 38, and the Mezzer felt very similar to the RXF forks. Ohlins' has the best support and comfort I've gotten out of a fork, when set up right. Only changed from the Mezzer because I had 2 steerers creak. The Mezzer stiffness seemed close enough to the 38 but truthfully the 36 was stiff enough for Enduro too, overbuilt compared to a Fox 36.
@Prof-Power
17 күн бұрын
@@TheFinnito test Formula. It doesn't need to adjust the bushings because it's already done at the factory. Formula works out of the box (except for the pre-installed Gold CTS - it needs to be urgently changed to Blue or Red or Green).
@TheFinnito
12 күн бұрын
@@thermonuculur I had a creaking CSU too. Though it had an aftermarket steerer tube that creaked. Fortunately they still replaced it as warranty.
@TheFinnito
12 күн бұрын
@@Prof-Power tbh tested the version from this review, with the gold shims and it wasn't as good. It would have been nice if at least one of them changed the shims to a different version as it is a nice feature.
@FantomPhish
17 күн бұрын
Forgot the Manitou Mezzer Pro. Which is a shame as it smokes pretty much every for you tested..
@TheDavidjakeson
18 күн бұрын
LOL @ Formula putting a 180 mm post mount on a dual crown enduro fork
@derekfoster9357
12 күн бұрын
Why no Manitou Mezzer on test?
@cunning-stunt
20 күн бұрын
Manitou Mezzer Pro is the best Enduro fork and you couldn't get one to test?
@cunning-stunt
20 күн бұрын
IMO not tried the EXT yet.
@Prof-Power
17 күн бұрын
@@cunning-stunt The best enduro fork is Formula. Mezzer is worse.
@SoGoMTB
2 күн бұрын
So love it
@vrwgq3q
21 күн бұрын
Its no surprise that Fox and Rockshox are here. They've been making big boy double crowns for a long long time and Rockshox based on my local suspension shop - is leading with most innovation, at least on the Fork side and also with durability. That said, gotta wonder if this is any better gear than what Minaar ran on his old Honda with Showa suspension.
@xuseg
21 күн бұрын
😢 Faltan muchas horquillas interesantes
@StuartPlumbley
5 күн бұрын
Why no buklos?
@youling1997
16 күн бұрын
44:07 I swear to god that the caliper wasn't installed correctly lol
@leonardoschool821
16 күн бұрын
marzocchi?
@vrhkrv4696
20 күн бұрын
Where's Manitou?
@blackhorsegrind4255
16 күн бұрын
How do you leave out EXT Era? It is the best air fork on the market Even at 36mm stanchions it outperforms the other offerings. Ohlins is similar in its damping but EXT is more advanced system. Disappointed
@vitalmtb
16 күн бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/15eXzWp6jXuElnY
@blackhorsegrind4255
16 күн бұрын
@@vitalmtb I’ve seen it, 3+ years ago. This video 2024 is about comparing the best enduro forks on market and it was left out. If you are leaving out some better offerings can it really be titled best enduro forks of 2024? Disappointed
@EMTBonsai
18 күн бұрын
Just like cheap phones and cheap cases if the come with a case and screen protector they are compensating for something in the design of the main product it's a tatic that makes your brain think " this is awesome " to swerve your attention away from the issue in the first place! What I think when see forks with "free mudguards" what are they hiding, or they are just not reliable.
@hakky0ku
20 күн бұрын
54:10
@taz800
14 күн бұрын
Where's EXT???
@vitalmtb
13 күн бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/15eXzWp6jXuElnY
@thegibbonisreal
21 күн бұрын
What makes Vital better than the other place? 54:12
@cheqtisout
16 күн бұрын
manitou mezzer pro
@nsxacura200
21 күн бұрын
Well It Looks like Xfusion New fork maybe a little bad
@JonnySimonetti
14 күн бұрын
We got word from X Fusion that this was a pre-production sample. The internals have since been updated to fix the top-out and rattling issues we experienced.
@c3h4organic97
20 күн бұрын
Is this a review or advertizing? Is reading the marketing materials now regarded a review?
@nsxacura200
21 күн бұрын
First
@UltrafineDeluxe
20 күн бұрын
A weeb with so much free time to watch a random video first? Shocking stuff.
@nsxacura200
20 күн бұрын
@@UltrafineDeluxe just like you
@UltrafineDeluxe
20 күн бұрын
@@nsxacura200 I don't have an underage Japanese cartoon as an avatar like you, weirdo.
@Prof-Power
20 күн бұрын
Are your reviews and tests paid for? Zeb, Fox 38 and Ohlins are the worst forks, along with Suntour. Formula should have been better in the test, because it is the best fork for this money. CTS has the most convenient compression adjustment of all existing. You should not have touched the lockout knob at all in this test. No trust in your test!
@BobbySchaffer
20 күн бұрын
Suntour # 1
@Prof-Power
20 күн бұрын
@@BobbySchaffer not 1st. RST and Zoom are better
@Prof-Power
19 күн бұрын
@@BobbySchaffernot 1st. RST and Zoom are better
@hansfischer6148
18 күн бұрын
Properly tuned, these are all good forks that won't push any hobby rider to their limits.
@Prof-Power
18 күн бұрын
@@hansfischer6148 Formula works out of the box. The most you need to do is pick the right CTS, which can be changed in 5 minutes. In other fork simulacra, you need to disassemble the entire damper to get to the shim stack. Oh, and Rock Shox, Fox, and Ohlins dampers are defective out of the box and cannot be made to work normally. Normal operation means working through small obstacles and support in the middle of the stroke (the fork does not dive in the middle of the stroke). Marketing works well and hamsters continue to be led by advertising.
@mammajammaish
13 күн бұрын
I would need a mechanic to trust to send a big ass drop on an x fusion and I’m a mechanic🫡🫡🫡
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