Most cabovers in the UK and Europe have flat floors and loads of storage space as well as fridge freezers etc etc . Noise levels have dropped considerably as well ..
@schoolgangsters7029
2 жыл бұрын
Yes but those trucks are like 16ft tall there’s a limit for height in America
@YouVidTuber
2 жыл бұрын
@@schoolgangsters7029 They're exactly the same height. Some of the european *trailers* are that tall, yes, but not the trucks. And no, the US doesn't have a set height limit. Its just what can fit under the bridges, so most trucks are built to that height. I actually plan to import one myself.
@elultimo102
2 жыл бұрын
@@YouVidTuber Did they change the 13'-6" max. height?
@jondrizzle4554
2 жыл бұрын
I take a double decker trailer at 16 ft ,1 inches that's in the UK
@YouVidTuber
2 жыл бұрын
@@elultimo102 It's not set by the government, its set by state is what I meant Some states do say 13'6 of course but I honestly havent ever even heard of cops/dot checking those heights on anything that isn't clearly oversize Adding to that, it would totally screw over car haulers if anything like that was ridigly enforced since they're never the same height
@gm16v149
2 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong on a few counts. Cabovers are easier to work on because when you tilt the cab right over, the radiator, engine and transmission are right in front of you. The Kenworth cabover is made in Australia, not America. They’ve just introduced the K220 which supersedes the K200, they all take a 620 HP Cummins engine, so no problem with power and cooling for our big weights and hot weather. Yeah, a long wheelbase conventional with a big sleeper is better, but modern cabovers aren’t like the old shakers which Americans always talk about.
@mwat22
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Volvo FH16 750 hp, Scania 730, mercedes actros Giga, I'd like to see which American manufacturer makes a more powerful engine than this,and also why does he seem to think Morden COEs are all the rage? Typical Americans, I'd like to see how well these American trucks ride on twisty roads in Europe or Africa
@terrywatson9128
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot a few commonly used coe's. The international was most likely the most common with freightliner being a close 2nd. Pete and KW were the premier coe's and also frequently seen. I owned a Chevy Titan 90. I also drove the freightliner for another fleet. IH had a coe that had a walkin bunk with the room to actually fully stand erect, however it didn't last long due to the acceptance of the conventional being legalized with the NHTSA act of 1982. I certainly don't miss attempting to dress or be comfortable in a Coe and truly welcome the larger bunks and ride of the conventional cab.
@b101uk
2 жыл бұрын
also most cabovers made over the past 40 years in the rest of the world, often have everything you need for your daily checks for the engine etc conveniently placed behind the front grill, and it is significantly easer and quicker to open the grill than to open the hood to do the same. and you are right, cabovers are much easer to work on, and it doesn't take long to tilt the cab (assuming stuff in the cab is stored
@ywe3
2 жыл бұрын
@@mwat22 the Freightliner Agrosy was still being made for niche domestic and Australian usage even PB and Mack make COEs still just the fact when you say truck in america it generally sparks images of the Mack R series or W900 but in terms of fleet vehicles COEs were a HUGE cost savings in terms of accidents and maintenance but the long nose trucks are just cheaper [an agrosy can cost over 200k with minimal equipment whereas a Cascadia or T680 starts at about 95K-109k respectively and the long noses are definitely "safer" than a COE in a collision from the front or sides].
@russvoight1167
2 жыл бұрын
A mechanic, service writer I knew said with the old cabovers it was common to change a clutch in 5or6 hours. Nothing in the way
@taras885
2 жыл бұрын
As a local driver I wish to have cabover. I have a lot of complicated situations in Seattle with bicycles, homeless pedestrians. Wish to have better view in front for safety and need more maneuvering with taught spaces. Don't like company Kenworth, even with short base, because it doesn't turn on proper angles. At the present time I have no choice, I am a company driver.
@chrisnoname2725
2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the conventional daycabs because i can't look out past the exhaust stacks when i'm backing. Glad i don't have to drive one
@rickallen1908
2 жыл бұрын
Kenworth has always had the longest turning radius. Even the old 100's. All the ones I've owned (3 900's) my complaints were always the turning radius.
@fredrikwallvik5265
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i drive a Volvo Fm9 box truck 6x2/4. I deliver all kind of stuff and drive abaut 300 km / day. What kind of truck are u driwing? This is one of my Volvo kzitem.info/news/bejne/2JeHy66mk4Oki4I
@joecummings1260
2 жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember driving a cabover local. Lots of climbing up and down when you are making multiple stops. It was bad enough when I was 20 something and it wears on you at the end of the day. Even worse if you were running RGN or flatbed like I did
@rickallen1908
2 жыл бұрын
@Alex Fracyon Really? I spent two years driving in San Francisco 5 days a week delivering to Safeway stores driving a 50 foot trailer and a conventional tractor. All it takes is skills, and patience. If you don't have the skills, stay out of the city.
@eliomarlacerda6943
2 жыл бұрын
The north america mindset about cabovers is from the 70s and 80s, at that time even conventional truck were loud and uncomfortable. Manufacturers evolved them a lot since.
@dougcahill6417
2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how someone can put out what’s supposed to be an educational video but yet the information is very wrong on many counts .
@mcebomabundza1094
2 жыл бұрын
Typical American style of education bias and stupid
@darthvader6864
2 жыл бұрын
Like what?
@doublenickle570
2 жыл бұрын
Engine HP, noise levels for starters. 2 problems with the cabover are when servicing making sure all gear inside the cab is secured, I’ve seen a planters peanut can break a windshield cause it fell when the cab was raised, and having to raise the cab to do pretty much anything other than check/add oil and coolant. Loved them and hated them especially up north where the interstates were bumpy as @&$? But they couldn’t be beat for their maneuverability
@jamesosborne218
2 жыл бұрын
Also cabovers are everywhere in australia, the kenworth k200 especially
@UltraCasualPenguin
Жыл бұрын
@@darthvader6864 He said that cabover doesn't allow most powerful engines to be fitted when most powerful truck engine is in european cabover (Volvo FH16).
@mastenas
2 жыл бұрын
95% of the disadvantages mentioned in the video are already things of the past, the only thing that can not be solved is the physical size of the truck.
@groundhoppingwlkp3622
2 жыл бұрын
Author lives in early 80s probably XD
@ernestpassaro9663
2 жыл бұрын
In 1982 they relaxed the length restrictions on total length on the east coast and cabovers were no longer necessary really bad ride most drivers don’t miss them
@groundhoppingwlkp3622
2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestpassaro9663 have you ever driven new European cabover? Like Scania S 730 or DAF XG+ ? They are far better than most American trucks (maybe Freightliner Cascadia is close)
@ernestpassaro9663
2 жыл бұрын
@@groundhoppingwlkp3622 freightliners are junk not even made in usa and I have driven cats and Cummins that would give any Diesel engine in the world a run for their money!
@ernestpassaro9663
2 жыл бұрын
I had a scania engine on a mb mack it was junk and gutless!
@rickallen1908
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting listening to a man who wasn't even born yet when cabovers were mass produced. I remember when Kenworth came out with the bicentennial aerodyne cab. Bunkbeds even in the 100 model. Was the coolest truck I had ever seen. I saw a new Pete cabover in Idaho two years ago, and was astonished at the room in it, twice what I remember. Most of my miles were in a White Freightliner, and an International. The last coe in drove was in 1987. Ah the memories.
@rannorgana
2 жыл бұрын
Kenworth just brought out a new model K220 Cabover here in Australia.
@knightwing4
2 жыл бұрын
The last COE I drove was a 1995 International.
@connorp4213
2 жыл бұрын
That's a nice story Rick. It sounds like you've put many good miles behind you.
@donaldsalkovick396
2 жыл бұрын
Does it matter that he wasn't born yet when these were popular? It's called research anyone with half s brain can do it
@AMTruckin
2 жыл бұрын
@@donaldsalkovick396 wrong ... IT DOES MATTER !
@T1DarAngl
2 жыл бұрын
German trucker here ... 1st we haul heavier loads than u do on standart relatively often. max weight on US roads is 80k pound, in Europe it´s 40t (~88184 pounds US) for e.g. distributing see freight from ports the standart goes up to 44t (without permit) and you can get a 45t permit for non splitable loads, e.g: a single steel coil. 2nd we have higher hp levels in our standart/common configurations ( e.g. Scania with 770 and Volvo with 750 ) where it is special or very custom for us brands to even go that high. 3rd. Multiple trailers are commonly used in NL, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Denmark, Finland and Sweden have B-links and HCTs (up to 35m and 90t) on their roads, with finland havin a lot of HCTs for longer distances. So, not correct in 3 or more points u made, please check ur facts more thoroughly next time Edits: added numbers
@robwhite3241
2 жыл бұрын
Not all states have a max load of 80k, some have 90k or 100k+ depending on certain licensing. And we used to have those large Hp beasts roaming the states but EPA and the price of fuel doesn't allow that anymore. 1000hp Kt cummins, v8 and v12 caterpillar marine engines were common on the west coast at one time.
@T1DarAngl
2 жыл бұрын
@@robwhite3241 well u say certain licensing so I guess that means permits involved wich leads me back to THE overall STANDART, cause like I hinted: the NL, Denmark and the Scandics have a higher base value (NL e.g 60t and S and Finland 70t to 90t) and I heard that Minnesota (I hope memory serves me) has an extreme high base weight limit if u have like 11 axles or so, but overall you basically have 80k lbs or 36t like the EU has overall 40t or 88k lbs.
@T1DarAngl
2 жыл бұрын
@@robwhite3241 We still have 1k and 1.2k engines but they are custom and rare cause... Fuel costs
@robwhite3241
2 жыл бұрын
@@T1DarAngl Are their massive trucking companies in Europe like the US? Or are most trucks owned by owner operators? The mega carriers are really who decide what trucks look like here in the U.S
@T1DarAngl
2 жыл бұрын
@@robwhite3241 DB Schenker ( one of the biggest 3 ww) LKW Walter with some 10k's trucks and trailer( including the rentables), Waberers, DHL with contractors, I think it's mostly companies and conglomerates or what it's called
@chrishar110
2 жыл бұрын
I am very sorry for the channel. I' ve never seen so many mistakes in one video. Let's explain one by one. 1. Comfort. You compare two different things. One truck with 4m nose and cab with a 2m cab. If you take a long wheelbase european truck and extend the cab it is much more comfortable than american trucks. 2. Noise? Are you kidding me? If I don't check the dashboard I can't tell if the engine runs or not. 3. Maintenance and repair? LOL. You must come to Europe to see it yourshelf. About the tanks and the rest, if you have 8m wheelbase, of course you have more room for the tanks. 4. Do you think that the engine will save you or it will kill you if it comes in the cab? Cabovers are made much stronger than the plastic hoods you have in N.A. Just check in your video with the 2 cabovers in the crash test at 5:19. 5. Engineering challenges. Your engineers have to work harder, it looks that they are too lazy. 6. Increased hauling capacity? Just compare, 80000 pounds (36287kg) in USA 97000 pounds (44000kg) in UK, yes you are right. More powerful engines? LOL Scania 770? Volvo 750? That's the power that comes right from the factory. I have seen modded trucks with 1000-1200HP. Torque? Double torque from 800-900rpm to 1200 and at least 1/3 more at any rpm 7. Short wheel base? You can have bigger wheelbase in cabovers if you believe that rides better. Even the 5m wheelbase european 4X2 ride much smoother than N.A. My opinion? N.A. trucks are 20 years behind european technology. I wish we could have the 3m sleepers you have in N.A. I would sell my house to live in a Scania
@charlesmoore2485
2 жыл бұрын
I live in Canada , own a truck with a hood, and couldn’t agree with you more ! Lol 😎
@738-ngx8
2 жыл бұрын
europe all day long
@gkcl1
2 жыл бұрын
I want to back you up on the hauling capacity point, I will be making the assumption that 80,000lb is the standard in the U.S.A. I am a truck driver in New Zealand, and for a light truck and trailer unit, the weight limit is 39t (85,980lb), like in the UK, 44t (97000lb) is the standard truck and trailer. But a lot of our linehaul units are running a 50max certificate, which allows them 50t (110,230lb), but we also have a 22 meter limit for length, so most of us are using cabovers with 650+hp engines. Also, I have only ever driven one "conventional" American truck, and it was the noisiest, rattliest thing I have ever driven
@lbernau
2 жыл бұрын
Scania made a model called Longline at some point, which had an extended sleeper. (As i understand it, they were trying to convince the authorities to allow for bigger sleepers, but didn't succed so they stopped making it) If you could get a Scania 770S in a longline version, that would be the sexiest looking and sounding truck on the road! 🙂
@cliffterrell4876
2 жыл бұрын
Who do you think developed everything your European cabovers have? That's right, the United States. Freightliner built a transaxle (the same cab used in Europe) that was longer wheel base than any conventional for hauling 60' to 80' steel with the length over the tractor frame about 2' from the headache rake and 6' off the rear of the trailer. My brother drove one for ten years hauling rebar and steel gurders.
@SmokeyGoodness
2 жыл бұрын
1987. I originally trained in an old Ford CL 9000 coe with a 13-over. THE most comfortable truck I've ever driven in 30(ish) years.
@3069mark
2 жыл бұрын
The main reason COE's were discontinued in the NA market is because the buffet drivers were getting so fat they couldn't pull themselves up the ladder to get into the cab! LOL😂
@paulv4130
2 жыл бұрын
We're not the monkey we once were.
@patrickskelton6482
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so used to seeing Cabover lorries in the UK & elsewhere. I thought the front engined ones were extinct but then realised the still exist in the USA. Look at modern Mercedes, Volvo, Scania, DAF advanced technology vehicles. Driver comfort paramount.
@merlinnwolffe8534
2 жыл бұрын
I used to love my cabover. I started driving back in 1984. I knew if I ever got into a wreck, and survived, I'd be able to write the most accurate accident report because the wreck would happen right at my feet.
@yasineren3131
2 жыл бұрын
Based and so true.
@aljaberhk
2 жыл бұрын
literally 1984
@briangarland9883
Жыл бұрын
Yup, the old man said he'd be the first one at the wreck..
@henryblanton6992
2 жыл бұрын
If I could get the “Truck of My Dreams“ it is the Volvo FH16 750 XXL Globetrotter (a deeper sleeper would be possible here stateside). 750hp-3550Nm, only traffic or “Nanny State” to waste my hours. A 6x4 or 8x4 set up would do very well. As for Safety, Safest Cab in the Industry. Even has an Independent Air Ride Steering Axle, skid plate underneath the Engine. Sliding Refrigerator under the bunk.
@truckingswe
2 жыл бұрын
Is this a comedy channel? Never watch a video where everything i wrong before.
@Tchristman100
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Kenworth K100E 90" Aerodyne. I totally disagree with engine access. You tip the cab all the way forward and you have clear access to the engine AND transmission. On a Conventional, the only way to access the transmission is from underneath the cab-and this is a problem with Roadranger transmissions that only have access on the top of the transmission-hence the transmission has to come out of a conventional, when a COE maybe able to work on it in place.
@bellezayverdad
2 жыл бұрын
All of these issues have long been solved in modern cab-overs. Now only their advantages remain. Standard trucks only survive as the predominant style in very few countries and I'd say it's a matter of tradition above anything else.
@philiam0420
2 жыл бұрын
And aerodynamics. A flat edge will always be less aerodynamic than a sorta pointy truck. Which makes a big difference when truckers go close to 1000 miles in a day.
@peterohmart5954
2 жыл бұрын
I loved my Westernstar 4964 EX conventional with a C16 600 Cat, 18Sp, 46,000 rears, 12,500 frt axles. I hauled 100,000 lbs all of the time. It rode like a Cadillac. It was smooth as glass
@SkylineFinesse
2 жыл бұрын
Smooth as glass, and just as fast
@brianbridle951
2 жыл бұрын
UK/EU "Cabovers" are both quiet and comfortable. That they are not geared for 70+mph is due to our regs not the vehicles ability. (before the regs and electronic tacho's many would/could do 90mph. The "pursuasion" not to, was the period brakes which would bounce off the drums. till speed reduced down to 65/70. Our current problem is the 6 axles across a sport distance means on wet or icy roads and light freighted adhesion to the surface of the road is very poor. (In short, you can't stop within the normal distance abs or not).
@roh0769
2 жыл бұрын
Cab overs certainly havent gone out of fashion in Australia. Length of the truck here includes the prime mover so when you are driving a b-double you only have 26.5 metres to play with.
@TheSubHunter1
2 жыл бұрын
Cousin drives one in WA a Volvo FH16 B Quad finds it better than the Kenworth
@chrisnoname2725
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSubHunter1 i haven't driven a Volvo, but i like the Kenworth much more than all of the other Euro trucks i've driven. They still let me change gears for myself instead of always being in the wrong gear.
@audoinxr6372
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSubHunter1 the FH16 is the top tier truck. They resolved every old issue that this video brings up.
@dbclass4075
2 жыл бұрын
@@audoinxr6372 Did the improvements on FH16 also applies to VNL?
@audoinxr6372
2 жыл бұрын
@@dbclass4075 don't think so. The VNL is very similar to the old pre 2013 FHs. The 13 on wards was a clean sheet redesign
@XxXNinjaFanXxX
2 жыл бұрын
as a fleet owner myself, out of the 26 trucks i run, only 1 is a cabover. it just got back to us after going through the whole truck and upgrading/fixing every nut and bolt. the driver we have in there is getting up there in age and is exactly one of those people who cannot stand change, and would rather be in something older, than the new trucks we run today
@stevenredman1582
2 жыл бұрын
I have 45 years driving experience and while I am not thrilled with change, I too prefer an older, pre-emission truck. I don't need or want all the electronic gadgets and gizmos that are marketed as "safety" devices but really ONLY serve to micromanage the drivers. Of course, some of the new steering wheel holders probably DO need to be micromanaged. But with more than 4 million accident-free miles, I view inward facing cameras as an insult. I would spec a blind spot side radar and a front-facing dash cam, but NOTHING else.
@ywe3
2 жыл бұрын
may wanna look at an Agrosy [freightliner].
@XxXNinjaFanXxX
2 жыл бұрын
@@ywe3 its a 2001 agrosy
@elultimo102
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenredman1582 How about a rear-view camera, centered over the trailer door?
@alexdev5809
2 жыл бұрын
cheaper to maintain an employee than train a new one. and why lose a loyal guy over a truck? he wants a cabover, let him have one! seems like a very hard worker.
@stevenredman1582
2 жыл бұрын
First, Why were there cabovers in the first place? Because shippers and trucking companies wanted bigger trailers to load more freight while staying inside the 65' overall length limits. Yes, space was somewhat limited and you had to tie everything down when you tilted the cab. Move ahead to 1982 or so when the length laws were relaxed along with a national weight limit of 80,000 pounds, up from 73,280 in some states. Now truckers could operate the longer conventional trucks and still pull the longer trailers. It was then that the 53 foot wagons stated to show up everywhere. The conventionals offered a better ride and in many cases, more room. THAT'S why cabovers went out of style. But they sure look great going down the road these days because you know someone put in a lot of time and effort to restore his pride and joy. Additionally, almost ALL cabovers (except European transplants) were pre-emission trucks and that eliminates a lot of the headaches experienced with the new trucks on the market today. And they are COOL...!!
@twisterwiper
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the design of COEs limits hauling capacity. I have never heard that this is an issue. Also we do have extended/multiple trailer configurations in Europe. I think many of the statements in this video are obsolete.
@yasineren3131
2 жыл бұрын
True.
@Saddletramp1200
2 жыл бұрын
I drove my last mile long ago but I still think a COE KW with the big sleeper is my favorite road home. Big Kitty & 15 over.
@TheSubHunter1
2 жыл бұрын
Some countries in Europe haul heavier loads than in NA as standard Finland for example max GVW is 74,000kg Also engines are different right now the biggest non modified output is scanias 770hp 3,550ftlb torque V8 Conventional trucks are not banned in Europe and yes you can have them and still pull a normal size trailer (45ft) I know a few companies that do use conventionals The more modern COE while doesn’t have the space has the comfort level that’s good and reasonable storage space the sound isolation is very good on them too European drivers still clock mileage with some being away 6-8 weeks sometimes more but they are more densely packed in than NA There’s advantages and disadvantages for both and I’ve driven both on both continents I would love to bring over a Volvo or scania V8 to see how it would compare in performance fuel efficiency etc against something NA
@JamesBond009
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Volvo just come out with an XL cab for the European market giving you guys more cab space.
@mele2904
2 жыл бұрын
The inline 6 is generally superior to a v8 when compared to relatively similar displacment and compression specs. The inline 6 is also better for maintenance/repairs usually. The v8's are a compromise for number of cylinders and displacement for tighter engine spaces.
@TheSubHunter1
2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBond009 been around for a while the XL but you can get the long line scania or Volvo XXL
@tobiasmetzger4522
2 жыл бұрын
every country in europe hauls heavier on standard.
@tangydiesel1886
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the state in the U.S. on what the weight limit is. Some states have weights close to what you described. The "bridge laws" favor longer combinations. Longer trucks may help with staying legal.
@max_archer
2 жыл бұрын
A major issue not mentioned here is the Federal Bridge Formula, which encourages longer wheelbases on trucks in America. American cabovers have their wheels as far forward as possible because of that, and it results in an awkward climb into the cab and a rough ride because the driver is right on top of the suspension and front axle. Europe doesn't have the same sort of regulations and it allows them to put the front axle further back, which lets them have a ladder directly below the driver's door for much easier access and I believe the ride quality is quite a bit better because of it as well.
@olsen19842
Жыл бұрын
i drive a 2019 scania nextgen p450 hooklift. with air suspension. and i can say that the ride comfort is really good.
@MainMite06
2 жыл бұрын
5:18 *Erroneous statement:* Engine blocks dont actually protect the driver in any crash, *Its the design of the drivetrain and surrounding chassis that actually protects the driver* Low-cabin, Front-engine rear-wheel drive, and Front engine front wheel drive cars usually have long noses that already space the predictable impacts away from the cabin. This can only be helped further more by improving the chassis ability to crumple in an impact. But factoring the prescence engine block as the reason why low-cab FR+ FF layouts are safer is a dumb myth. In any accident an FF or FR engine block & tranny are just a passenger or heavily secured cargo along for the ride. Engines may take the secondary brunt of a front end collision because of their position behind the initial bodywork. But in any front end collision *they can aggregate the danger more* IF: They werent secured to their chassis thoroughly. If an engine block+tranny combo wasnt designed with the best motor mounts and bushings, *They would break into the cabins' firewall, tranny tunnel or break free from the car in any collision* If your FR/FF engine/tranny combo werent secured to their subframes or the main chassis every crash would involve the engine blocks penetrating cabin. Also sidenote: *Ever wonder why Tesla cars have long noses even though their EV designs could be adapted into flat noses?* -safety+ convenience: long nose to crumple and space out impacts, and that same space can be used for cargo
@oldmanfromoc7684
2 жыл бұрын
I loved driving cabovers with 600 horses in 1974 never late, Good looking rigs with lots of chrome !
@stevenredman1582
2 жыл бұрын
Never late with a 3408.
@jasonsavage6934
2 жыл бұрын
Well I have to say cabovers are alive and well here in Australia.the majority of trucks here are cabovers,and most new trucks are cabovers as well🎉.
@TacticalTrucker
2 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh when he said more powerful engines and a video of a Volvo engine pops up 😆
@frankgillespie4012
2 жыл бұрын
I started in a 1973 white freightliner cab over with a 335 Cummins and a 13 speed trans and don't miss the cab over trucks one bit
@joecummings1260
2 жыл бұрын
Cabovers sucked to drive, sucked to climb in and out of, and sucked to work on. Only kids who never had to drive one think they are cool
@frankgillespie4012
2 жыл бұрын
@@joecummings1260 amen
@dbclass4075
2 жыл бұрын
@@joecummings1260 Back in 70s, yes. Nowadays, not anymore. Or at least not the modern European trucks.
@firstnamelastname564
2 жыл бұрын
"I am Optimus prime!" He was originally a cab over truck
@davidross6063
Жыл бұрын
I live in Arizona, and I have seen cabover trucks with the same setup as the ones in Europe. Swift does have modern COE's that have a soft side box on the truck frame and it pulls a pup behind it. Kenworth makes COE's for Aussie trucks but they will also make them for American truckers, as does freightliner. This guy needs to do his homework.
@rudytrans
2 жыл бұрын
Cab overs are back for your info I live in California and Frito-Lay are using them here and stating to see them in Arizona so far from extinct FWI
@dbclass4075
2 жыл бұрын
And are far common in Europe.
@enikata7349
2 жыл бұрын
Here in New Zealand we have conventional trucks and COE trucks that are both of the American and European design. It's quite common to see the new Kenworth COE ones on our roads and I'm all for it. I love trucks of either design :)
@semiretired86
2 жыл бұрын
in Europe we went from conventional trucks to COE's in the late 60's early 70's
@audoinxr6372
2 жыл бұрын
I usually watch these videos with the mind set of a NA resident. But like many others have commented, this is all total made up crap. Or at least for the current times. Maybe the title should be "Why North American truck manufactures stopped building COEs in 1980s"
@leonb2637
2 жыл бұрын
COE's are still used in North America mainly for non-tractor trucks in the 15,000-35,000 pound range and some heavier ones mainly for city delivery, specialty ones like garbage trucks and as noted fire trucks. One user of COE tractors trucks are for the TV and film production businesses where have to be parked and used in cities where very limited parking and a need for maximum trailer length. There are a few old school truckers that continue to use COE's that may haul long/oversized loads or just out of personal choice. In almost all of Europe and Asia, COE tractors and straight heavy trucks due to the need to operate in tight urban areas.
@jeffdickerson6323
2 жыл бұрын
I know these are only opinions, if ill -informed but you are completely wrong on all counts other the the physical space, which of course is a consequence of legislation. I am pretty sure that if Volvo made a hybrid cabover with a FH Globetrotter spec cab with a VNL760 sleeper pod grafted behind they would sell like hotcakes. Access to major mechanical parts is actually better because once the cab has been tilted mechanics have direct access to the engine and transmission without the need to take the sleeper pod, cab off the chassis. Same applies to daily checks for the driver, all accessible under the front flap.
@mwat22
2 жыл бұрын
Laughing in European trucks, almost similar size as the N.A trucks, Scania 730hp and Volvo FH 16 750 cab overs with super space cabs
@WarrenPace
2 жыл бұрын
I laugh in Australian.
@AFellowDoktuh
2 жыл бұрын
In the 90s when COEs were more common I saw the aftermath of a collision between a COE and the backend of another trucks trailer, it was gruesome. A very vivid memory I sadly still carry to this day.
@robertryan7204
Жыл бұрын
Here in Austrakia Conventials have rhe worst accidents. Modern Euripean Cabocers are very safe
@brianschneir2158
2 жыл бұрын
First truck that I drove was an international 9670 coe. 13 speed, hot inside, a/c could never cool interior because of the heat of the engine you were sitting on. And don't ever bobtail or drive one without a trailer. The brake balance was horrible, if you hit the brakes in the rain, the truck would spin around like a top. Fuel mileage was also bad due to aerodynamics.
@ytgrabber
2 жыл бұрын
I drove it too. 3.5 miles per gallon. Hot in summer, cold in winter, pos.
@einar8019
2 жыл бұрын
its made in the us what do you expect?
@AMTruckin
2 жыл бұрын
They are well and trucking in so many places on earth ... like Australia , Europe and South America. Only in USA they are gone , hope it will make back .
@Freightlinerbob
2 жыл бұрын
STAA is what killed the Cabover. Surface Transportation Assistance Act. Matter of fact, KW was working on an ultra fuel efficient COE when the STAA was signed into law. This caused them to scrap the project and start again. The result was the original T600.
@spacecat7247
Жыл бұрын
Seeing them again and quite a bit. Being pulled out of fields and put back to work. Lots are being restored and even retromodded as well. Always happy to see one on the highway.
@richardoakley8800
2 жыл бұрын
Long nose or bull nose trucks are great in countries that have big wide road. Bring them to the uk where are have road older than America furniture and you will chop your legs of for a cabover
@terrywatson9128
2 жыл бұрын
I owned a Chevy Titan 90 as my 1st truck and have driven the Freightliner coe's also. I certainly don't miss the coe! Maneuverability certainly was easier in coe's but for highway driving and extended time on the road the conventional is the #1 choice of most drivers. You forgot 3 manufacturers who were commonly seen on the highway. International, Peterbuilt and Kenworth were also prevalent with the last 2 being the premiere trucks usually seen with owner operators or private elite fleets.
@HJZ75driver
2 жыл бұрын
COE’s are still available new in Australia 🤷♂️
@matollsen2523
2 жыл бұрын
I've never been in the states,but here in Europe all series we have are cabovers, have 2 beds and enough space inside to live inside for a few days. Maybe I have to come and compare. However, till last October I've driven all brands except iveco and Reno. Now I've driven them as well. Best for me are the Swedish once..
@emperorsniper2806
2 жыл бұрын
Guess what, most if the world still uses them. And most of those problems are are already dealt with Also modern COE are able to have 750+ HP
@doublenickle570
2 жыл бұрын
The flat floor cabover trucks gave you the best of both worlds, the interior of a conventional and the manuverability of a cabover. Also, engine size is just a myth as manufacturers were putting high hp engines in them for decades before they left the market. Even v8 engines with incredible pulling power fit easily in them not to mention the industrial engines that made their way into those trucks. The biggest reason for their demise is driver recruitment. Drivers simply didn't want to drive the small cabover trucks so companies had to stop buying them. Unfortunately the flat floor model freightliner and international trucks were introduced too late to save that style of truck.
@Nebs1
2 жыл бұрын
Fair bit of misinformation in this video, other parts makes sense. Australia is interesting. There has got to be almost a 50/50 split between conventional and cabovers.
@unkl3t3rry40
2 жыл бұрын
The split is becoming much more 80 coe and 20 conventional, at least in the part I'm from. Only time you see a conventional is an old farm rig or a company which hasn't updated their fleet. Even the quad trains are led by coes now
@Nebs1
2 жыл бұрын
@@unkl3t3rry40 you’re right there’s a lot more cab overs around these days. However I do se quite a few conventional trucks around Newcastle, Hunter and other parts of the east coast highways. Maybe not 50/50. More like 60-65% cab over. I might try to keep some sort of tally when I’m out and about.
@unkl3t3rry40
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nebs1 ah im over from the south west of Australia so probably a bit different here compared to there
@KevinRichards-rk3gp
Жыл бұрын
I was very surprised Kenworth still produces cabovers because I thought they became obsolete back in either the late 80s or early 90s. Those K200 models down in Australia look bad ass.
@ldnwholesale8552
2 жыл бұрын
Errr, look at the rest of the world. Just about all cabovers. America is a niche market in the world of trucks.
@jeffherdz
Жыл бұрын
I started my driving career in a 1990 Freightliner C.O.E.. Had no issues sleeping in it due to the sound of the engine knocking me out like a light. I do remember that getting into the sleeper was extremally easy. Your right foot on the ground, shift to the right and hop into the bunk. Not like the California condos that they have now.
@wheelman1235
2 жыл бұрын
Not extinct in Europe. A 4x2 tractor over here can legally haul a payload of 25,000 kg. These combinations are typically 16,5 m in length with a tri axle trailer. Not very spacious cabs, although these units can turn on a dime in tight spots. The single drive axle can take 12,000 kg. Good afternoon.
@wheelman1235
2 жыл бұрын
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@wheelman1235
2 жыл бұрын
@Thomas B yes I know . EH
@gmctech
2 жыл бұрын
Having been a truck push on North American Big Inch Pipeline construction contracts, I'd take a cab over for day to day use for what we do over any mainstream big snout semis....
@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy
Жыл бұрын
The primary reason Europe uses cabovers is because most European cities were built before carriages were available to commoners. As such, streets were specifically designed and built for horses and pedestrians. Without a cabover, those horse/pedestrian roads would make entire parts of the city otherwise inaccessible. America never had that problem in the first place. Later, a great deal of America's infrastructure came about BECAUSE of the Interstate system, and the Interstate system turned many towns into actual cities. So, from the get-go, American roads were specifically designed and built for vehicles.
@newzealandtrucks
2 жыл бұрын
we have thousands of trucks in New Zealand which are mostly ALL cabovers
@luckyalexander8881
Жыл бұрын
My dad was a long distance trucker.. Rode with him in the 70s and 80s. Road with him when not in school.A lot of cab overs MACK K.W. G.M.C. crackerbox and Astro I.H. Ford Petes. White Freightliner. White Road Commander. The old boy in this video needs more experience.Either riding or driving.
@icecreaminc8013
2 жыл бұрын
trucks cant pull multuple trailers in *parts* of Europe.. fixed that for you. And Cabovers are still the majority used truck in Australia. with stub nose (shorter nose than the old pete and w900 kw) coming in 2nd. Long nose like the aformentioned w900 and pete 389 are few and far between these days. KW k200 (aussie only truck) cabover bunk has a double bed and fridge.. lots of room. North America likes the lower center of grav, long wheel base trucks, because they suck at driving. :P just kidding.
@twitafftwitaff7029
2 жыл бұрын
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@mateuszzimon8216
2 жыл бұрын
Trucks can haul multiple trailer in parts of Europe but this is still testing and only used on same routes, ex packages between distribution centers. Spain, Germany and Netherlands have test this from 2018
@angrysocialjusticewarrior
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was common to get around this limitation but using tandem trucks (an extended chassis truck with a trailer bolted on to the truck, which then tows an additional full size trailer at the back). Or is this not legal in some European countries?
@mateuszzimon8216
2 жыл бұрын
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Bolted box plus separate box is legal but only 40 tons. Type tested is Semi, trailer, dolly trailer. 80ton total mass.
@BloodyHeck
Жыл бұрын
Speaking as someone who has been a driver my entire adult life and having started in cabovers, my opinion as to why cabovers disappeared is because the large companies like Schnieder and J.B.Hunt bought the cheapest trucks they could. When I started it was considered a luxury just to have FM radio in a company truck. Conventionals with even the basics were considered luxury trucks compared to what a lot of us started in. I did see some cabovers that were incredibly well equipped and, after most companies were able to get rid of the doghouse, those cabovers were just as spacious and luxurious as most conventionals. But by then the damage was done. Most U.S. drivers saw a cabover as a cheaper, crappier truck and the few that were loyal to them weren't enough to support their production in the U.S.
@ceisarsrepair7958
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot Kidney Belts and Spinal damage. While the newer COE has a drastically improved suspension and cab cushioning, the older ones were harsh. We had 4 , Pete, Ken, White, Gmc. We hauled double flats of hay from Eastern Washington to the Seattle area. Besides climbing the side of the cab to get in, the leg room was cramped, your right leg was always rubbing against the engine cowl, you had to climb over the cowl to get to the thin piece of foam they called a bed, and even though the drivers seat was spring loaded, after 400-500 miles, our backs and our kidneys were done for the day, you felt every pebble and bump in the road. Many had to quit due to spinal issues. Yes they may have looked Kool, and turned sharp, and were good for in-town deliveries, long haul was very unforgiving. Been hauling since 1979, still going strong, but using conventional with air ride cab, air seats with heat and massage, with Huge sleeper, bathroom, dinette, 55" TV, etc. We don't do in-town deliveries with tight alley ways, there's more than enough work elsewhere.
@bloqk16
2 жыл бұрын
Good that you brought up the physical issues with long-haul trucking. I worked in retail back in the 1970s, where a part-time coworker had been a trucker that had suffered neck and shoulder pains from the physical trauma they got from driving COEs. He found masseuse treatments were beneficial.
@ceisarsrepair7958
2 жыл бұрын
@@bloqk16 So that's what those scantily clad girls are that walk around truck stops.... They give back and shoulder rubs! 🤣👍
@TheJStoney
2 жыл бұрын
Man, you couldn’t be more wrong on a few aspects. Modern European Cabovers are super comfortable and quiet. Stock you can get 770 hp in Europe without a problem and on average they carry more weight than US Trucks. US new trucks are still years behind in Tech and comfort due to the cheap mentality of Americans. Disk brakes have been standard for like a decade while the US still does Drums on new trucks and Disks are optional. Same with front axles being leaf springs still and so on. The only truck I’ve driven that was more comfortable than a Euro COE was a stretched out Pete with air on the front axle.
@daniellima2973
2 жыл бұрын
Cabovers are prevalent in Europe and in my home country of Brazil. Particularly in day cabs. I think preference and roads is a factor
@js3599
2 жыл бұрын
I have told the story of my first truck a few times on You Tube... but here it is again... Sorry for this being so long... 1. 1972 international flat top cabover. My primer gray beast. My only direct experience in a cabover... 2. Air conditioning did not work. Never had it in the first place. 3. Heat did not work. Blew only unheated air, if it did anything at all... Dress for success. Layers is the key word. 4. Windshield defroster? Don't even ask how that hair blow dryer was wired in... It overheated after 3 minutes of use. 5. Power steering? No! This is a fitness machine rivaling/beating any workout you can buy with a gym membership! 6. Door locks? You mean my trusty, rusty tow chain? (I had a rope with hooks for my security, but it was stolen.) 7. Roll down the window? Shimmy the window with one hand while turning a stripped crank with rusty vice grips. 8. Roll the window up? Hope you didn't let it fall all the way down, because you gotta repeat #7, but in reverse. 9. APU? What is that? Sounds like witchcraft to me... 10. Engine brakes? Jake who? Just learn to brake, clutch, shift and steer at the same time. It is all downhill anyway... 11. Start the engine process? Start at least an hour early. Go through every "dance step" perfectly, and cross fingers... 12. If you miss/mess up any part of the "starting dance," you're stuck. Wait 45 mins and start over at the beginning... 13. Air ride seat? You mean my trusty kitchen chair, duct taped to the floor? Seat belt? Bring extra duct tape. 14. Fuel gauge? Get out of the truck and insert a dipstick into the fuel tank. Best keep a close eye on that... 15. Dash gauges? If it had one.. It was broken, one way or the another. Best guess better be enough to get you by... 16. Sound system? You mean tho old battery powered radio duct taped to the dash, cutting in and out with every bump? 17. Headlights? 2 flashlights jury rigged to the bumper. Plan on stopping to readjust them every 50 miles or so... 18. Accept the fact that you will be sitting on the side of the road at least 2-3 times per shift. Mechanical knowledge helps. 19. Scales/inspections? One word. Stealth. Disappear into the black smoke screen bellowing from your stack. Good luck. 20. Tires and brakes? Brand new. Clutch too. Boss didn't hate me THAT much... I guess... Bottom line... Would I recommend that truck to anybody, rookie or veteran? Absolutely not. I only had to put up with that truck for 3 months, but learned a lifetime of experience during that time. Boss told me exactly why I was getting the old beast, instead of one of his new beauties he had sitting parked on his lot. to learn what REAL trucking REALLY is... Self reliance. Figuring out how to solve your own problems. Understanding that a truckers job is to get the job done. Do I still miss that truck? From time to time, but never for long. It really made me appreciate the brand new Pete 379 the boss put me in after I "graduated" his hard knox course. It was a real feeling of accomplishment, much more so then when I first got my CDL. Not to mention the relief of no longer fearing scales/inspections anymore, although the nightmares lasted quite awhile longer...
@angrysocialjusticewarrior
2 жыл бұрын
And people wonder why the new generation is reluctant to go into trucking. If I had a boss who tried to put me in such a truck, I'd tell him to put me in a real truck or I walk.
@delscoville
2 жыл бұрын
Still see a lot of cab-over box vans. Then there's the EU as you mentioned.
@dannyshemtov576
2 жыл бұрын
The 2 most powerful production truck in the world are both coe scania 770 hp and Volvo 750 hp
@susansullivan9255
2 жыл бұрын
Not only that scania and volvo build the safest trucks in the world anyway..
@christophersickels2293
2 жыл бұрын
Military (army to my knowledge is the only one, could be wrong) uses COE for most of its vehicles. But also has some of the traditional still.
@wayneturner5133
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a shame the USA market has ditched Cabovers As Truck drivers in Australia enjoy our Cabovers great visibility & better manoeuvrability I’m driving a Kenworth K200 it’s fantastic flat floor & high roof ability to walk straight into large sleeper it’s also just as quiet as my last bonneted Kenworth
@dutchman2506
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha dude you have No clue what you talking about. Did you EVER bin in a European cab over, obviously not. And did you know that ONLY in North America there are no cab overs anymore because of workman's comp. In the Rest of the world EVERY BODY is driving Cabovers. Thy can HAUL MORE,THY have MORE Powerful Engine's and last but not least they drive WAY MORE COMFORTABLE No engine noise No vibrating,even potholes are gone. So I would say,next time you make a video about trucks inform yourself a wee bit. PS: I drove 21 years true Europe with a cabover and the last 16 years I drive in North America, conclusion: European cab over is WAY more comfortable,it outperforms a American truck by miles.sorry to say but the American truck is about 25 years behind specially in drivers comfort
@karlinmckinnon2878
Жыл бұрын
When I hit the lottery, I'm going to get a COE quad dump truck from across the pond and bring it over here to the states.. Those trucks are awesome! 👍🏿
@josephcrippen1222
2 жыл бұрын
For OTR/Regional/Dedicated drivers, for comfortablity/space, take a conventional and just move the driver cab forward and they would basically have a w900 studio sleeper with the same wheel base.
@jpgale
2 жыл бұрын
The maximum standard weight of a UK truck is 44 metric tons about 97000 pounds the standard max weight of a US truck is 80000 pounds. The conventional trucks over here do not typically haul more than he COE in the UK.
@SirIdot
2 жыл бұрын
In Sweden the maximum weight is 74 metric tons (163000 lbs), and even 90 tons in some.cases, e.g. lumber.
@truckiedude91
2 жыл бұрын
Only time the old Argosy I used to peddle was loud was when the flexi pipe behind the cab cracked lol. Gotta rate the cab over personally. Ideal for rural N.Z🤙
@jacky445
2 жыл бұрын
3:03 Lol in modern euro cab overs you have tv, fridge, microwave and you can sleep two people as you can have one more foldable bed above the main bed.
@joshbobst1629
2 жыл бұрын
I once drove one of UPS's old Mack cabovers. I loved it. One of the best things about it was its pneumatically actuated clutch, which remains the smoothest engaging clutch I've ever operated. The Honda Goldwing I currently have comes close, but not quite.
@KevinRichards-rk3gp
Жыл бұрын
Back in the day when the length & weight laws were different here in the USA 🇺🇸, whenever you heard or saw the word "semi", a cabover was what you thought of. Nowadays the only kind of cabovers you see mostly on the roads are fire trucks, garbage trucks, yard spotters, crane trucks, concrete pumper trucks, front discharge cement mixers, & non semi trucks like street sweepers & those small Isuzus.
@Retired88M
2 жыл бұрын
I’m an East Coast dedicated company driver that’s planning on retiring from full time trailer trucking after 47 years in a few months. But if Mack Trucks parent company Volvo would build a cab over that rode and looked as good as Mack’s last highway model the MH I just might take the plunge and buy one. I drove an 85 MH for a bit and the air ride cab would ride just as good if not better than anything that’s in the US market today. And talk about being able to maneuver into tight docks here in the Northeast? Nothing compares. The only modification would need is to give it a much lowered doghouse to help my older less flexible body get into the bunk for a good night s sleep. Oh yeah and bring back the E-9 V-8 with around 750 horses
@lanedexter6303
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone recall the Mack prototype made before they dropped the overall length restriction, on which the tallest thing was the 5th wheel? Driver sat low, ahead of front wheels, trailer was intended to come forward over the tractor to match up with front bumper? Trailer length would equal truck overall length. Human nature guaranteed Drivers would never accept it, but it was functional, even made guest appearances in the short lived Highwayman TV series.
@markelijio6012
Жыл бұрын
Because many special purpose trucks such as fire engine trucks and dump trucks were still on the road in the US. However, some classic cabovers were still used for many different purposes, outside North America, Canada and Mexico for instance.
@vincentmarfe445
2 жыл бұрын
On the note of lack of power in coe's, i like to introduce the Frieghtliner Powerliner into the chat.
@dbclass4075
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Volvo FH16, and Scania R.
@vincentmarfe445
2 жыл бұрын
@@dbclass4075 yes for sure, but those weren't ever sold in the US far as I know.
@dbclass4075
2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentmarfe445 If only FH16's engine can be used in VNL...
@joshuahill6153
10 ай бұрын
New Zealand and Australia use European & American Cabovers still. We still hold dear to the traditional American truck but for some usages and regulations it is actually better to use a cabover to be able to fit into tight areas and to have greater payload advantages. 12 tonnes instead of 10 tonnes for instance if you were to run a dump truck run. Every bit counts in terms of aerodynamics & payload. Cabovers wont replace traditional American rigs in New Zealand, but they will hold strong safety and logistical advantages.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
10 ай бұрын
Points taken ! Thanks for sharing your insight!
@michaelashcraft8569
2 жыл бұрын
WOW! Although I am a "throwback" to the 70's (started Truckin' 1975), we DID have many Conventional Trucks then "Sonny". I cut my teeth on COE, I was very comfortable in my Corn binders, Whites, JIMMY'S, even KW,S, Pete's, etc. You'll have to excuse us poor, unwashed, over worked Truckers of that era for loving some COE, I could maneuver them anywhere , I had great field of vision, LIFE WAS GOOD,,,,SONNY!!! Damn Whipper Snappers think ya know so much, ya wouldn't have lasted a damn week on the Roads of THAT era, we worked for a livin' then, comforts were few, A/C restricted to those who could afford it, even power steerin' was optional, life was TOUGH, we were TOUGH, who the HELL are you,Son??
@jscottupton
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a driver but I am fascinated by this subject. My personal opinion is that I'd rather drive a conventional truck on a long haul. Comfort, safety, and plenty of room for the engine design and repair are powerful arguments.
@SantaFe19484
Жыл бұрын
I used to see a lot of COEs on the highway during the early and mid 90s, were they still common back then? I called them "flat fronts."
@fourtyfivefudd
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve only ever seen an old cab over with a trailer once in person and that was just this past weekend. It stood out
@waynehankinson8210
2 жыл бұрын
A big reason is the drivers being injured falling when exiting or entering the cab. A broken ankle or damaged knee keeps you from earning. Europe with it’s tight roads in old areas still need to be short as possible.
@mcebomabundza1094
2 жыл бұрын
COE designs still exist in the wider world its just in America that they are running extint. I have seen these extended cabs in Africa are involved in more highway accidents than the COEs
@The_Aussie_Truckie
2 жыл бұрын
Lol maybe in America but not in Australia we still make brand new 2023 Cabover Kenworths
@osasosas2982
2 жыл бұрын
If the engine is Infront of you, the turning radius is gonna be huge and it's a disadvantage. Not everyone lives in America my friend.
@skeletorrocks2452
2 жыл бұрын
Cabovers are pretty much just good for day cab drop and hook. Basically a small sleeper to catch a nap while you're being loaded or unloaded. The type of truck you would swap seats with another driver. But on the open road conventional Hood style trucks are just better. Although cabovers do have a certain style to them. But that style doesn't make up for the lack of space is a sleeper.
@dbclass4075
2 жыл бұрын
It's possible to have larger room in cabovers: extend the frame. Volvo's Globetrotter XL cab in FH16 is quite roomy.
@mikegrazick1795
2 жыл бұрын
I have collected many matchbox semi trucks, all conventional and COE forms. It is truly fascinating to examine and cherish these toys!
@francoisdvanderwesthuizen
2 жыл бұрын
If flat noses had such big issues then why are only USA and Australia building them and not Europe, China and Japan. IMO flat noses' engines and components have accessibility when the cab is tilted, yes you do have to pack away all loose items inside, but it does not take 30 minute like you make it sound like, maybe 5. The other thing is that we have a total length restriction(horse and trailer) of 26 meters, so a cab-over can haul a longer trailer and short noses have a smaller turning radius, modern short noses' cabs are quite good sealed from engine and road noise and comfortable to sit in...
@robwhite3241
2 жыл бұрын
Ok what's the clip at 4:08? Ive looked but I couldn't find it.
@marilllover2177
2 жыл бұрын
One place that Cabovers are relatively common is in the moving busines since they can go around corners easier and they can extend the chassis to add drone boxes to them for extra furniture
@joshmontemayor1212
6 ай бұрын
Not only are cabovers still around today, but they're actually still out on the road.
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
6 ай бұрын
Seeing one feels like seeing a relic sometimes
@billybob1723
2 жыл бұрын
My uncle was an independent, long-hauler for 30 years. He bought a new Peterbilt cabover in the early 1970s. I rode with him on I-85 from Charlotte to Greenville and back. The ride was surprisingly rough.
@theronash7269
Жыл бұрын
That was 50 years ago. New trucks have air ride, air ride cabs and air ride seats.
@coburnlowman
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the International 9670 cabover. Ran a lot of miles in those. Freight Liner cabovers were all junk even when new. They had noise issues, leaks made cracking noises in tight turns. Plus with the tiny window they were hard to see out of.
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