This is important, listen carefully to what kock said:“Christof Koch - What Is Consciousness? Closer To Truth” consciousness type two is responsible for perception (heavy work that humans can’t realise ), consciousness type two is far more complicated and advanced, but humans must focus primarily on consciousness type one (it’s the key to figure out how consciousness type two works).
@aminam9201
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This might be clearer: if humans were able to make real scientific progress and reach cycle two after decoding both gravity and consciousness type one, then predicting and controlling what will happen in cycle one would become easy. to concise : current mental and scientific capabilities are still far away. It is very difficult to understand this, but cycle two is subject to science only and requires intelligent, rational entities and hard scientific work that may last for a few thousand years (depending on the level of mental capabilities). Sometimes you will not be able to understand and control what is happening if you are part of that system (you must exit that system by reaching cycle two first). Time is a process and as long as humans are part of the same process then they can’t comprehend and control that system.
@Dman9fp
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I'm still in favor of humans are deeply in the cyclical cycle of nature, and it needs to more or less be left alone (let this destructive s0ciety destroy itself. The alternative, perpetuating this hubris ridden "nature as just a pile of resources" s0ciety may be infinitely worse imo). Sounds counter intuitive, but when common sense / societal myth-busting has to be taught in order to get intelligent rational individuals in the first place, what chance have we got with whatever time is left in order to near fully control let alone understand whatever the heck is going on in reality. We don't see primary reality, we just interpret what is coming in through the senses/ what is important to our survival. Impossible not to have cognitive biases too. Not saying it's impossible or fruitless to try decoding reality or manipulate some stuff, but way too many unstoppable complex variables at constant play/ increasingly worsening. Certain ecosystem scientists have known this/ trying to make corals more adaptable to extreme heat in oceans for instance
@aminam9201
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Randomness and luck are a human concept resulting from the inability to understand what is happening, anticipate events, and control what will happen, even what happens at the subatomic level (what is currently called quantum mechanics). There will come a day when future generations of humans will be able to reach a good enough understanding to predict what will happen and control it. For example, people resort to statistics to predict what will happen in varying probabilities depending on the situation, sometimes due to the inability to conduct accurate comprehensive calculations and sometimes due to a lack of good understanding of the topic for which the research is being conducted.... etc
@Dman9fp
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True, for the most part. Luck is just a concept of language/ human comprehension, like minutes or inches. Man invented it to make sense of the world, & for those that dont believe me, just imagine if no civilization existed reminding you what the time constantly is, or how close new years or your birthday is. Seasons and day and night would just come and go. "Time" as a dimension is more cyclical than linear... as far as prediction powrs in reality, there are likely too many variables acting on each other producing unpredictable results, which leads to more unpredictable effects from new variables/ old variables keep reacting, etc. Exponentially complex, especially given for most any problem new and old things/ variables can unexpectedly enter or exit. Not an expert, just speculating/ seems even researchers know deep down statistical modeling is very overly simplified. Maybe prediction power will improve, but the amount of information & potential interactions make it nearly impossible to perfectly predict anything
@aminam9201
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@@Dman9fp yeah, that’s similar to three body problem, but it’s possible that humans in future will find the proper solution for that too.
@aminam9201
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@@Dman9fp Time is a process, it’s not a dimension nor an absolute thing.
@aminam9201
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Time = Distance/ Speed has a relationship with how clocks work. Gravity affects the measurement tools (clocks), not time itself directly! Because time is a process. and the assumption that light experience no time is not accurate assumption. Both Newton and Einstein had wrong understanding of time, time is not an independent entity (not a dimension nor an absolute entity). Time is a (process).
@aminam9201
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the working mechanism of all clocks is the same whether pendulum clock or atomic clock and that’s why they can’t understand time at the subatomic level, actually Planck was a good physicist for many reasons.
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