DT, you've edited the wrong make.conf in the beginning! You weren't chrooted yet, but you've pointed vi to /etc/portage/make.conf and not /mnt/gentoo/etc/portage/make.conf at 19:10 that's why probably compilations took so long.
@DistroTube
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. That is definitely the problem. That's me not looking at the handbook while doing stuff. Good catch. EDIT: I'll fix that in case I do a future video with that VM.
@serge5046
3 жыл бұрын
@@DistroTube Did you map the guest CPU features to the host CPU features? If not, you can't use -march=znver1 So -march=native is better in both cases. If you did the mapping then -march=native will get those features, if not you can't use them. znver1 is used to get the precise set of instructions for the zen architecture in the case you want to optimize your system for instance through manual configuration of the kernel but you didn't follow that direction.
@undefinednull5749
3 жыл бұрын
@@serge5046 native is always better than just the family optimizations. In many cases the code is more specific to the exact chip you're having, rather than guaranteeing that it will work on the entire family of these chips.
@serge5046
3 жыл бұрын
@@undefinednull5749 True. And the actual version of GCC can't take FULL advantage of the zen architecture.
@undefinednull5749
3 жыл бұрын
@@serge5046 Hmm I thought that was true for the previous release? I'd bet that the latest prerelease should support it fully though :) A nightly build may be even more comprehensive
@crazychicken0378
3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this. Something beautiful to fall asleep to
@specticide7942
3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@oneanime5551
3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@MIDNITE69
3 жыл бұрын
It's his voice. Perfect and calming.
@genericname9875
3 жыл бұрын
@An A. WHY DONT YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT INTEL SUPPORT ON TUXKART RACING TO MAKE IT 5KB SMALLER AND MAKING NO NOTICABLE PRFORMANCE INCREASE? AND SPEND 5 HOURS COMPLING IT?
@techtriggr
2 жыл бұрын
I am watching this at night. And i almost slept 🤣
@fawzanfawzi9993
3 жыл бұрын
Finally, DT has the power to bully Arch Users.
@Ja.KooLit
3 жыл бұрын
ehh why is that? The process of installing Arch and Gentoo is almost same. Preparation of Disk in particular is exactly same. Then mostly just follow what Gentoo wiki says. Of course in Gentoo, you customize your kernel, compile, and wait for lots and lots of hours.... I have tried Gentoo but stopped it after 4 hrs because I was impatient. I would rather stick with Arch. In which I could also customize my own kernel and use it than wait for hours and hours of just comping Gentoo even packages
@Ja.KooLit
3 жыл бұрын
@@tuzuh Yeah probably I made a mistake. But I remember that I was setting up with systemd that time and as DT said, setting with systemd is just complicated but I was hard headed ha ha... But I may try again when 5.13 kernel is on Gentoo as I have newer hardware.
@tuzuh
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ja.KooLit hope it turns out good for you this time!
@archuser7607
3 жыл бұрын
paru -Syu
@Ja.KooLit
3 жыл бұрын
@@archuser7607 ? huh. you cannot update your system here you know :)
@matthewrowell5973
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here wondering to my self.. how did I get to a point where I'm actively watching a Gentoo installation and enjoying it. Thanks as always DT
@user-uo8ny1kj4c
9 ай бұрын
sounds like you're a sadist.
@indrajitsarkar3169
3 жыл бұрын
sees Gentoo install in the title: calm sees video length: panic
@kdemetter
3 жыл бұрын
1 hour 11 minutes ? No way a Gentoo install can be that quick. Last time I did it took me 3 days (granted that was including the KDE desktop environment) .
@lucyinchat
3 жыл бұрын
@@kdemetter power of binhosts
@not_herobrine3752
3 жыл бұрын
sees descripton claiming that he had a few minutes of time: confusion
@deusexaethera
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's bullshit. Anyone who says "installing Gentoo is easy" is lying. While it's true that the basic steps are straightforward, there is ALWAYS some stupid problem in EVERY release that takes manual troubleshooting to fix. Gentoo developers are lazy and they should be ashamed of themselves.
@hansdampf2284
2 жыл бұрын
When I saw that I thought „hm his hardware must be quite powerful if it installs gentoo that fast.“
@DOLGOVUSER
3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday was my big day: I achieved 1080p60 recording in OBS, was like impossible to me for years. I made psychonauts 2 review, completely on my Arch installation, without even any proprietary software (used kdenlive + obs + gimp). I even managed to record gameplay video of that game. It just came out. I'm so happy with this goal reached. I'm also very happy that I can now be free of any proprietary software and still make videos. I was making videos for years in sony begas and then in premiere pro for some more years. All of that would be impossible if not your easy arch installation guide. Thank you, DT!
@DOLGOVUSER
2 жыл бұрын
@Arnav Vijaywargiya My coffee is not open source.
@totallynotbluu
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@grosses_wassertier666
Жыл бұрын
while plaing proprietary games
@gehenna14
Жыл бұрын
@@grosses_wassertier666 he should've reviewed extreme tux racer
@taidee
3 жыл бұрын
I tried gentoo around 2001 and quickly decided and I don't need to spend my life with a system like this, it's got it's people and I ain't one of them. Vanilla Arch is fine for me.
@dukenukem9781
3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@sirrobertwalpole1754
2 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@deusexaethera
2 жыл бұрын
@@sirrobertwalpole1754: Cringe all you want, he's still right. Gentoo developers are lazy. There's a reason this distro is dying.
@gx1tar1er
2 жыл бұрын
installing gentoo to me is like learning classical music (learn all music theory and if you play instruments, then you have to spend a lot of time to practice which classical music is difficult to play same as jazz) and gentoo & classical & jazz are very niche
@PavelChumarov
3 ай бұрын
@@deusexaetheraI've never everywhere faster KDE, opportunity to skip systemd, high percentage of solvable problems. So, it's a question if it's really dying. Compare with arch. It shows a prominent drop on distrowatch.
@axlslak
3 жыл бұрын
I've been using gentoo since gentoo has been available. Since 2001. I have never installed it like this. Not even once. Take advantage of what linux has to offer. You don't need to install it in place. On final hardware. You can just install, upgrade and perfect it in chroot. Here's what I do. I look for a machine with reasonable hardware and some reasonable space. Without vm or anything fancy, you just pull stage 3, unpack it in some random directory (personally i prefer ramfs or tmpfs to do this), and mount dev proc sys dev/pts dev/shm, then install it to your heart content (in chroot). you can take as long as you want with this step. install X & gui too. browser. whatever. When you are done, you unmount dev proc sys dev/pts dev/shm and whatever else you needed in the process, tar the whole thing up as YOUR stage3, and now when you just do partition, formatting, untar, grub and ye done.
@nevoyu
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are welcome. (I'm the Gentoo guy from the last patron chat)
@millankumar9245
3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@rexempire3365
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think he was going to do it. I was actually finishing up my Gentoo install when that idea was thrown about.
@Winnetou17
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@fletcherriverwood8964
2 жыл бұрын
This makes Arch installation process looks like beginner level, Thank you DT
@ME0WMERE
10 ай бұрын
well, he did literally say in the beginning that the install process for both is similar, it's just that gentoo takes longer
@tusharkuntawar6170
3 жыл бұрын
Hey DT, please add timestamps, those are useful in these kinds of videos.
@torspedia
3 жыл бұрын
thrided!
@oldaccount7463
3 жыл бұрын
Mental Outlaw has entered chat
@socvirnylestela5878
3 жыл бұрын
have you slept well? it seems that you look tired and need a break . i hope you rest well and take care of your health DT
@nikkehtine
2 жыл бұрын
he's spent the entire night installing gentoo
@TheLinuxCast
3 жыл бұрын
Any time one of my subscribers ask me to do this, I'll now point them to this.
@austinjames5516
3 жыл бұрын
hey if it isn't you
@nevoyu
3 жыл бұрын
And I'll tell you that you need to install it.
@TechHut
3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@hellosociety7094
3 жыл бұрын
You and dt best tilling wm KZitemrs
@okamiboi
3 жыл бұрын
I just chugged an hour of content like it was nothing. It's almost 3 AM. THIS is the kind of content I would pay for, great video DT.
@timothyt.82
Жыл бұрын
At 10:50, you can see the partition reads out GiB instead of GB. This is a Gibibyte, which is the binary measurement for bytes instead of the decimal Gigabyte measurement. Most manufacturers and developers use GiB, but label it as GB out of habit, like how drives A and B on Windows are still reserved for floppy drives unless manually assigned.
@bittertruth6575
Жыл бұрын
And because they are a bunch of scammers.
@robsku1
Жыл бұрын
@@bittertruth6575 Scamming to sell you more than you thought? You realize that if you''re buying a brand new 30MB drive and you're thinking that you get exactly 30 million bytes, but they really meant MiB's then it will be *more* than 30 million bytes? Where's the scam in that?
@johnstath9666
3 жыл бұрын
The definition of patience!!! Hats off to you sir!!
@EUXINOS
3 жыл бұрын
As a long time Gentoo user, I appreciate your patience. Now you have a stage4 ... compress it, and next install will be faster :P
@keylowmike85
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a little speechless. I was about 34 minutes into the video and I needed a break lol. My hats off to you, sir.
@darinelortizmontano9996
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, actually I have just finished my first Gentoo install yesterday, I decided to try directly with systemd and I achieve it, it isn't that hard, but I really appreciate your video because I think many people here (me included) trust you better than other people over the internet and also I like how you always recomend us to use the wiki and guides, you're the best really, thanks
@TheBlueThird
3 жыл бұрын
How long did it take you to compile your kernel?
@yuliandavid1810
3 жыл бұрын
Can u pls specify how many hours did it take u to install it
@darinelortizmontano9996
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlueThird @world like 7 hours, kernel like 4-5 I leave so I don't have the exact for kernel, and kde meta 9 hours, it's important to say that I have an old CPU A10 6800k so many of you will do it in much less time
@darinelortizmontano9996
3 жыл бұрын
@@yuliandavid1810 the hole system to be usable with plasma 1 and a half day, but to log in in terminal a day I started at 9am left when compiling an booted successfully at 11pm
@Wehrfrettchen
3 жыл бұрын
11:06 Note that sufficient swap space is needed if you inted to use hybernate on the machine. So if that is the case use a size of swap greater then your RAM size.
@ExtinctionOfTruth
Жыл бұрын
interesting I didn't that was what swap was for
@robsku1
Жыл бұрын
@@ExtinctionOfTruth That's not what it was originally meant for and is not the primary use for it, but "hibernation" (aka "suspend to disk") was implemented by using the swap partition - a choice I'm not completely happy about.
@matman1975
3 жыл бұрын
This is DT with a good mindset. :) Well done.
@IndellableHatesHandles
2 жыл бұрын
Gentoo software installation reminds me of Yaourt AUR always compiling software, which I honestly prefer, because I get to see how standards-compliant the software I use is.
@gradientO
3 жыл бұрын
And now we need a Void Linux and Puppy Linux install tutorial, also thanks for this tutorial
@mehmetkaraman3710
3 жыл бұрын
afaik he's done void, but you can check EF linux's void installation too.
@duckmeat4674
3 жыл бұрын
Void is dead. Puppy Linux is easy to install
@mehmetkaraman3710
3 жыл бұрын
@@duckmeat4674 no, void is not dead.
@abdulararak4672
3 жыл бұрын
I must admit while I love your content and watch it regularly your voice is just ideal for falling asleep and I like to play lengthy video like this before going to sleep 😅.
@kebman
Жыл бұрын
In Norway we made a concept called "Slow TV". It's where you have a ferry, and you stick a bunch of cameras to it. And then you film the ferry going on its merry way while you show various views from it, in real time. If the ferry ride is five hours, then the broadcast is also five hours. No talking. Just the ferry. Water. The mountains. Weather. Five hours. Like if you had to be on the ferry yourself. The surprising part was probably that those shows were quite popular!
@huetoo
3 жыл бұрын
How do you just pull out a mf Gentoo intallation video out of nowhere? This is awesome!
@0x1337feed
3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he pulled it out from his computer
@0x1337feed
3 жыл бұрын
might be wrong tho.
@terrydaktyllus1320
3 жыл бұрын
@@0x1337feed Ssssshhhhhh! Don't spoil "the magic" for him. He probably still believes in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too.
@somesalmon5694
2 жыл бұрын
I love gentoo! I've been daily driving it for a few months now and I absolutely adore it :) My linux journey started with arch linux running dwm which I've stuck with from the start, dwm is my favourite window manager (I'm working on a dwl config for wayland). I really enjoyed Arch but I wanted to give something other than systemd a try although I have nothing against it it's a great tool that makes system management across servers really consistent and handy! So I switched from arch to artix which I also really enjoyed but it made using the AUR kinda difficult at times since I was still new to linux in general and wasn't comfortable with init management so to learn more I forced myself to switch to gentoo and have been learning so so much. Over the last 6-8 months of since I switched to linux I've really fallen back in love with computers and technology and would recommend it to anyone, I recommend fedora to anyone who is tired of windows and wants a comfortable place to start learning something new. I'm so glad you did this video sharing gentoo with a large new community, it's a magnificent operating system that facilitates so much learning and customization and freedom :) Thank you DT, I appreciate your work!
@solstxce8596
3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes good stuff! I am currently triple-booting, manjaro, gentoo,arch. But gentoo took so much time especially qtwebkit and gcc. I used the old guide made by you
@nelsoncoop3774
2 жыл бұрын
why manjaro AND arch?
@benjamindepaz8429
4 ай бұрын
37:13 I’m glad that was one of the first steps you mentioned. Most of the Linux guides I run into talk about nano. But VIM is really all I’m comfortable with as far as text based editors go.
@VulcanOnWheels
3 жыл бұрын
1:05:20 Who did you thank? You did all the work. 1:11:16 ...which makes me that much more grateful that your installation worked.
@aaronryder4008
3 жыл бұрын
Did this last month! I used genkernel as well. It was an amazing experience for me. Especially how portage works with All the flags, usepackages, etc. I feel like it is not something I can use as a daily driver though
@excitableboy7031
3 жыл бұрын
Genkernel? Its a pain to upgrade my dude, just spend the extra 5 minutes and save hours upon hours in compilation time later
@KSPAtlas
3 жыл бұрын
@@excitableboy7031 should I also enjoy missing something and having an issue
@darryllawler2777
3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see your presentation of this distro install. Plenty of other videos out there, but I appreciate your approach to instruction more than most others. Thank you for all the effort it took to edit this down.
@KvnAol
Жыл бұрын
from kenya with love. i appreciate your videos DT (strong and complicated password)
@BruceCarbonLakeriver
2 жыл бұрын
This video gave me nostalgia - the moment I stopped distro hopping Gentoo
@barae05
2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much because of this tutorial I finally install gentoo in my pc (for configuring network in gentoo iso installation run *net-setup*)
@solarwolf678
3 жыл бұрын
One of the things I like about gentoo is that systemd isnt forced on you on gentoo
@2khz
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Derek actually looked visibly exhausted at the end of the video. I don't blame you, man. That was a hell of a long install.
@laughingvampire7555
Жыл бұрын
gentoo’s logo is the coolest of all distros.
@nikkehtine
2 жыл бұрын
If Linux distro installation processes were Doom difficulty levels: I'M TOO YOUNG TO DIE - Ubuntu HEY, NOT TOO ROUGH - Fedora HURT ME PLENTY - Arch ULTRA-VIOLENCE - Gentoo NIGHTMARE - Linux From Scratch ULTRA NIGHTMARE - Debian GUI installer
@gx1tar1er
2 жыл бұрын
i'm a Linux beginner (i use PopOS) but what happened to Debian here? i've never heard that Debian this difficult.
@elijahosborne
10 ай бұрын
👌, got it installed on 2 laptop 🥔's using dwm. Getting wireless internet to work after reboot was my biggest problem. Love the USE flags side of gentoo. The wiki is easier for me to understand.
@Kreze202
2 күн бұрын
Ironically, even though a lot of people say that Gentoo is harder than Arch, as an Arch user that has installed Arch manually a few times, the Gentoo handbook makes installing Gentoo seem SO much easier than installing Arch with the guidance of the wiki. It's amazing how unfriendly the Arch wiki is.
@kseniyakolokolkina5884
Жыл бұрын
Man! Installing Gentoo with GNOME takes super long! It took me 4 hours just to compile (not including the kernel)! I have an i7 and 8G of RAM. My desktop was made in around 2016.
@dsdk1524
3 жыл бұрын
i plan on falling asleep to this video dt. These comments are fun. I love the silly people. You guys rock! You do too, bud. I am curious to what keyboard you have?
@sy-uu3hz
3 жыл бұрын
ZSA Moonlander with Kaihl Whites
@DistroTube
3 жыл бұрын
@@sy-uu3hz Kaihl Coopers actually
@mecrumbly429___4
3 жыл бұрын
yeah, I got into an argument with one of those 'silly' people, if you look further into the comments section.
@wadecurry938
3 жыл бұрын
I know it's a lot easier to do the recording if you install in a VM. I would respectfully suggest/request that having an actual, physical machine addresses far more issues. I think the viewers would get a lot more out of it. Dealing with making space on a hard drive, dealing with UEFI, determining the partitioning, selecting and configuring drivers, dealing with multiple monitors, or a 4K monitor, this is the "hard" stuff that people really benefit from seeing. I think doing this would put you in a class by yourself, because most everyone else I've seen do installation videos uses a VM. The part that we can see from a VM installation is pretty easy, and it dodges the kinds of real-world constraints and requirements that a user might have. I hope that didn't come off as a complaint. I love your videos... And I love your hair! ;-D
@PhayzinOut
2 жыл бұрын
1:38 You totally missed why he did it in a VM. Perhaps listen instead of coming off as a complaint, which you totally did
@heroe1486
Жыл бұрын
@@PhayzinOut Or perhaps you could imagine that he understood it but is still suggesting getting another machine for this kind of videos, that's the most plausible hypothesis considering the form of his message. Use your brain a bit before being condescending.
@PhayzinOut
Жыл бұрын
@@heroe1486 Or maybe it''s laziness on the viewer's part because his brain can't realize not everyone's PC has the same specs. Try using YOUR BRAIN and critical thinking skills before defending some random nobody on KZitem
@kittyb4750
3 жыл бұрын
DT, you've taught me a lot. You took me from a person who's clueless about Linux to a poweruser. Somehow though, I feel differently towards you now. I don't know why but your videos fell unprepared and filled with mistakes that could easily be avoided. This happened both when you installed Arch and now when you installed Gentoo. Please try to somehow remedy this :) Regards, Träy.
@taidee
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on that one, the quality of his work does feel lower than it used to be.
@invalid5777
3 жыл бұрын
for people getting an error with grub-install named: cannot find EFI directory. To fix this, you need to change your --target. grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sda also please note that if you are dual booting, install grub on the entirety of the HDD, not the partitions.
@psour33
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best way to learn a lot about Linux
@StevenOBrien
3 жыл бұрын
6:54 "Ctrl+C will kill the pain." If only it were that simple. If only it were that simple...
@ChadsHobies
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you DT. Good job. Yes, your ending statement is essentially a universal Gentoo user motto in regards to the reboot after completing the grub config. Compiling grub shouldn't take more that 10 minutes on any amd64 machine. I noticed you blew threw the useflag selection. That and you only had a gig of swap vs your ram. GCC likes to cash to swap while doing multiple compiles (ie you set your make.conf to j6). How can I say this... In Gentoo, GCC will try to simultaneously compile as many separate sections of code that it can. Also, if you defaulted to all the use flags. Then the support for those programs will be included in each and every program you compile if that program supports it. Keeping your use flags to just what you want is essential for sanity. The last time it took me over an hour to compile a kernal was when I was on an Athalon dual core... A long time ago. But all in all. You did a good job. Any Gentoo install that results in a successful initial reboot is cause for celebration.
@hansdampf2284
2 жыл бұрын
7:02 Ctrl + c actually doesn’t kill ping, it sends a SIGINT to it, an interrupt. The is nothing bad about this, is a graceful stop when the process recognizes the interrupt and reacts accordingly. Even Killing a process with kill is actually sending an SIGTERM to the process which gives it the chance to clean up after itself. Only kill -9 really kills a process by forcefully removing it from the kernel.
@jessevas5222
3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the second time you've done this install on your channel,@DT. I love how you start off with, "these are the same commands on hardware as VM." Then, you switch it up right before you start. In both videos. 😈
@joedoe4489
3 жыл бұрын
I found gentoo easier to install than arch with the exception of the kernel. It just took a lot longer.
@finnqni8563
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I always wanted to switch to Gentoo because I always get bullied by memes as an Arch user
@taxaction1
3 жыл бұрын
Without the Dubstep intro I just can't attempt this kind of install. That intro triggers me to go BALLISTIC in the terminal 😂. Enjoyed the vid 👍.
@tkunkle121136
3 жыл бұрын
"Today I'm gonna be running through an installation of Gentoo." I'm sorry. Gentoo's existence only serves as a warning to others. Gentoo is really just LFS with Portage in it. *I love you Gentoo, don't worry*
@LDavis
3 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Bro, that was hardcore. I got a little loopy just watching you type out all those commands. And having to wait for all that crap to emerge???.... Had to be killer. Also, I can appreciate that you prefer vim. I was a nano everything person initially. But now, I don't think I can do without vim. I feel pretty good noticing the undos and replaces that you did in the video. I can see where Arch and Gentoo are very similar. They are like mirror images. Arch is more modernized than Gentoo, but the installs are quite similar in form. The main difference (which is a huge one) is that Gentoo is oriented towards building everything from source, but a well-placed binary install can save you from killing yourself. It is basically fully customized. Arch, on the other hand, is oriented towards building everything from binaries, but a well-placed build from source (like a kernel) can optimize your system even more --- and make you feel like you have super powers. It is less customized, since it's geared only towards x64 architecture. In both cases, you build your system the way you want it. It's just that with Gentoo, the cost of adding more stuff than you really need is very high; while with Arch, it's much lower (mostly negligible). I have installed Gentoo before. Never again. I even tried Sabayon, but I couldn't deal with the updates. I really, really love Arch. But, these days, I can't even give the time to install and configure Arch. So, I've been rolling with EndeavourOS instead. Most recently, I've been checking out Fedora.
@johnstath9666
3 жыл бұрын
The definition of patience in the dictionary is DT
@ShenLong991
2 жыл бұрын
1:00:35 - If you look closely to the output of emerge you could see a bright yellow "R" in front of e2fsprogs which mentions that it is already installed, but because you wanted that, portage (emerge is the frontend-tool of portage) Reinstalls it for you. Also it adds e2fsprogs to the world-file. (The Set definition of @world). In the Handbook right above the section about the different tools for the different filesystems it mentions that e2fsprogs is contained within the @system set. Which is always also a subset of @world. ;) so it is already installed.
@retrace
3 жыл бұрын
LETS GO my favorite linux youtuber doing my favorite distro
@hansdampf2284
2 жыл бұрын
1:09:29 no you don’t! This is exactly what gentoo is about: managing installations from source so it doesn’t get overwhelmingly complicated instantly with updates, keeping Makefiles somewhere in case you want to uninstall etc. What you want to do when software is not available in a layer (repo) is write an ebuild file that automates fetching the source code and compiling and installing it. Then portage will manage the rest for you like keeping in mind you installed that package, uninstall it etc. also you can then write packages that depend on that package and when installing then portage will know that the dependency is fulfilled. But in this case you’re lucky, because dwm is already in the official gentoo layer. I you need the very latest version from a package, say dwm, just install the package that has version 9999. this one automatically downloads the default branch in GitHub to compile from that. (Be are that his is a alpha version of course) I know dwm is managed by changing the source. But you can write user patches instead, that would be a really clean solution
@walter_lesaulnier
8 ай бұрын
Suggest drinking 3 cups of strong coffee and listening to speed metal music while installing Gentoo.
@hansdampf2284
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you continue this
@AudioKuroneko
3 жыл бұрын
Yes a new gentoo video! I will follow along this one !
@shutdowncnn6086
3 жыл бұрын
I have done a few Gentoo installs. The more CPU cores the faster the install. I am no expert but if you read and pay attention to the Gentoo manual the base install goes fast. I would recommend using a host machine then ssh to do the Gentoo usb booted target machine via ssh. Then cut and paste commands from a manual or from your notes. Been running my Gentoo box for about a year and it runs with both a xfce4 desktop and spectrwm window manger, I just edit the ~.xinitrc use the startx for the GUI system I want by just commenting out the .xinitrc for either the desktop or the window manager depending on what I want to run with that day... :) Gentoo is good .. I like it ...! :)
@ismatovsanjarbek
6 ай бұрын
I like DT saying "strong and complicated password"
@robert58
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, this is the video we wanted
@toosafelol
3 жыл бұрын
my lord, my savior. i've attempted this before with gentoo in vm and installation manual on the second monitor, never went too well..
@TinkerTech
2 жыл бұрын
First time watching the channel and a new drinking game has popped in my brain. Every time you say slash we take a shot 😆
@sigmundfreud4472
3 жыл бұрын
Process is actually harder in a VM in my experience. You have to make sure to hit all the necessary options for guest support in the kernel
@evildragon1774
3 жыл бұрын
The day has come
@mullvaden83
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. What a tedious install. Wow! Props to you
@DanielMorilha
10 ай бұрын
DT, the install is probably slow because you are using a virtual machine, give it a real disk and things will go faster. Thanks for the video.
@christianb9077
3 жыл бұрын
I agree that it is not difficult. Especially when you stick to the Handbook and don't come up with a strange partition scheme, the base system should be up in under an hour (provided internet speed is not a bottleneck and you need hours to download the packages). Even more so since Gentoo provides the distribution kernel, which even lets you skip compiling your own kernel. I think I need to do a Gentoo installation speedrun. :)
@r.f.mineguy7715
2 жыл бұрын
With my VERY basic knowledge of installing base arch linux, some lot of this process is pretty familiar... that said I probably won't even attempt this until I've proved myself with arch linux. Very interesting though!
@ViniciusProvenzano
3 жыл бұрын
You should do it in HW, compiling times would be way better without virtualization. Also after a fresh install on HW you can notice how fast it goes even without optimization. It’s like a Ferrari that you build with ikea manuals.
@shapeshift13
2 жыл бұрын
hard for me to do cuz of my brain problems . but got arch linux running great, probably will dead my dual boot soon , great tutorials
@0hexe
3 жыл бұрын
Installing Gentoo isn't hard - records a > 1 hour video
@TheRedneckPreppy
3 жыл бұрын
* Edited *down* to an hour :-)
@gustavrsh
3 жыл бұрын
I mean there's a difference between hard and lenghy. It would be hard if it required knowledge you can't easily get, but the handbook seems to have everything.
@Phydoux2112
3 жыл бұрын
The 'emerge --ask --verbose --update -- deep --newuse @world' can also just be typed as 'emerge -avUDN @world. Also, the ask command is not needed. Without using the ask command you won't see the "Would you like to..." verification. without ask it assumes you want to do all of that with a yes.
@RealMazharHussain
3 жыл бұрын
The Gentoo documentation writers need to write the full from arguments/options because they are self-descriptive for the most part. And DT needed to follow Gentoo handbook exactly so that the viewers knew what was going on. If documentation writers or DT used short-options, they would have to explain what each letter stood for and that would make the video/handbook way longer than needed. They don't want that. It would have been better if documentation writers wrote those commands like this Run 'emerge --ask --verbose --update --deep --newuse @world' or 'emerge -avUDN @world' It would have made everyone's life easier but unfortunately that's not the case.
@undefinednull5749
3 жыл бұрын
the longer options are easier to remember in the long term, as they are self descriptive. Especially as you advance to very long argument lists...
@kisu9212
2 жыл бұрын
avuND*
@tibssy1982
3 жыл бұрын
I installed gentoo only once around 2004. I did it without reading any online tutorial because I had no extra pc/laptop/smartphone on that time. I had only a few printed sheets about how to do it. So it was a nightmare and never want to do it again. Anyway it was a good challenge, and I learnt a lot.
@aniksen3831
Жыл бұрын
My 🧠 Blast🤯After Watching This Installation Process.
@HenrydenHengst
2 жыл бұрын
THX DT, and OMG this takes a lot of patience.
@liftlinux9421
3 жыл бұрын
Web browser takes more time installing than installing Gentoo: Some gentoo guy
@sigmundfreud4472
3 жыл бұрын
Default profile has very little to upgrade on first install. I’m also surprised how long updating/installing took for DT. He said compiling vim took 30 minutes, but on my i5-3570 it takes only 10ish.
@sigmundfreud4472
3 жыл бұрын
LOL the genkernel and GRUB compile times are absurd. Something is seriously wrong...
@Winnetou17
3 жыл бұрын
@@sigmundfreud4472 Yeah, see the pinned comment (which was after you posted your comments). DT edited the wrong make.conf in the beginning, so he used the default settings, which, I think, means that he compiled everything single threaded.
@sigmundfreud4472
3 жыл бұрын
@@Winnetou17 Yep! So he was on one core... That explains so much.
@sebaszwarc
9 ай бұрын
On Apple Mac Mini M2, 4 cores given to UTM virtual machines genkernel is like 2 minutes :)
@ernestoditerribile
Жыл бұрын
Had one of the first gentoo release on a software magazine in the '90s or early 2000. Had about 60 hours of work to make Wine work correctly.
@ernestoditerribile
Жыл бұрын
Back then I had to compile the kernel myself, there was no stage 3 installer back then. Run it off the the CD that came with the magazine.
@ernestoditerribile
Жыл бұрын
Also KDE was really unstable back then, but people loved the switching as a cube between 4 different desktops
@maxmasterton8699
3 жыл бұрын
Correction, Makeopts should be set to the number of logical CPU cores (threads) not the number of physical processing cores. In the context of a virtual machine it’s the same but for anyone installing on hardware this would be a mistake.
@Epsilonsama
3 жыл бұрын
But RAM is another consideration. For every 2GB is one opt so if you have 16GB you will go -j8 for example.
@maxmasterton8699
3 жыл бұрын
@@Epsilonsama Nope, Your value shouldn’t exceed the 2GB of memory rule but it shouldn’t be based on it either.
@kisu9212
2 жыл бұрын
or ram/2+1
@SwiatLinuksa
3 жыл бұрын
My Ryzen 1600x just cry seeing that xD thx for detailed tutorial! Good work
@geek-room
3 жыл бұрын
DT you have perfect timing, I had ready USB with gentoo today for installation to vocation PC. And you post installation guide :-D thx.
@tassoss13
2 жыл бұрын
No joke I just watched this just to fall asleep
@divukman
Жыл бұрын
Thanks DT, always find your videos helpful
@marcusoosthuizen5227
3 жыл бұрын
Yessss yessss
@hoterychannel
3 жыл бұрын
How nice arch install because it have arch-chroot for example so you no need to enter to type in many mount commands!
@robertgolding
2 жыл бұрын
@ 57:06 Gentoo does not require a complicated password, in fact you may leave it blank for a normal user. Root requires a password but it can be quite simple if you wish, it just warns you if its week.
@liftlinux9421
3 жыл бұрын
free time == gentoo installation
@MarsDrums-lr7wd
6 ай бұрын
For me, the genkernel in a Virtual Machine with 4 CPUs, installed in about 4-5 minutes. You said you stopped yours but I just kept mine going and I think there were like 5 processes and it went through the first 4 rather quickly. All told, that step took, maybe 4-5 minutes to do tops.
@sebaszwarc6028
2 жыл бұрын
on qemu with one core that compilaton part took almost a day :) trick was to set -march=native and accel=hvf and set 3 cores then kernel install instead of your 20 minutes took like 3 :)
@renaldi6210
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dt! I waiting this video for so long
@seancondon5572
3 жыл бұрын
49:00 - my first go installing gentoo, I configured and compiled my own kernel. None of that genkernel or kernel-bin crap. That was, once again, 16 or 17 years ago.
@Ja.KooLit
3 жыл бұрын
if you installing in VM or even in a different computer, you could use SSH and use your main desktop or other computer and easier to just copy paste from Gentoo Handbook. There is a similarity of Arch install and Gentoo. Especially preparing disk, setting locale.. etc etc etc
@mecrumbly429___4
3 жыл бұрын
you gotta check out CRUX linux. Kind of like gentoo, but with heavy influences from Slackware. You'd get a kick out of it.
@shelleyreid680
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. CRUX Linux is the fastest distro I've ever used and a lot of fun to install.
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