Jason Reeves even got his name on the chyron. You could say Sig is really making a name for him.
@RyTrapp0
2 ай бұрын
Jordan Reeves always giving us what we're looking for
@user-ij9sh1tf9d
3 ай бұрын
$2400 for a case of ammo. Sig is really out here living that Koenigsegg life.
@mysterioanonymous3206
3 ай бұрын
Yeah... I'll sit this one out. Doesn't even bother me one bit. I'm just here for a laugh.
@ExtremeUnction1988
3 ай бұрын
Koenigsegg life! I’m stealing that hahahaha
@John_Redcorn_
3 ай бұрын
More like Pagani life.
@pickleeater3102
3 ай бұрын
Lol. That's gold!
@GunManGunHand
3 ай бұрын
HAHAHA...Sigs got the Government contract and they are living it up like Colt, will see how long this last, better watch out Sig, Government running out of money, need to cut some contracts. as for the .277 fury, this round will not catch on.
@ryankelly1182
3 ай бұрын
Shout-out to the cameraman for anticipating James's reaction face to getting called Jason
@TFBTVShowTime
3 ай бұрын
Ry guyyyyy
@ryankelly1182
3 ай бұрын
@@TFBTVShowTime a name that conveys excellence
@danielkemp4860
3 ай бұрын
Maybe the second J in his name is Jason ?
@meisenhut31
3 ай бұрын
At least he was consistent and called him Jason again at the end.
@afd19850
3 ай бұрын
😂 classic Jason Reeves!
@charlotteblackman429
3 ай бұрын
Jason Reeves. We're never going to drop this one. 😂
@BertShackleford
3 ай бұрын
Great. Now we get to hear MAC prattle on about _more_ ridiculously expensive SIG products. In an obscure and unobtainable caliber for that matter. Everything Tim talks about inevitably comes full circle back to SIG Sauer, Inc. It's on odd infatuation to say the least. Cool concept SIG but it begs the question: _Why?_ Next on TFBTV Show Time, we get to see Dillion Precision's new iteration of the M134 that very few people will ever see, let alone touch. I did, however, get to fire off a few hundred rounds out of a M134 at Ben Avery back in the day. You never forget your first time behind a minigun. It's like losing your virginity! Stay classy my friends.
@Barbaroossa
3 ай бұрын
He'll probably resell them at Copper Custom for 15 thousand dollars per gun.
@maxximus2012
3 ай бұрын
Sig has enough of my tax money, no thanks on overpriced rifles. P.S. Sig's rolling changes strike again! good luck for all the civvies that want parts support and compatibility lolz
@CraftySasquatch
3 ай бұрын
James Jason Reeves. Now we know.
@Cyblade2020
3 ай бұрын
This is how we find out about the TFB cloning program,
@TFBTVShowTime
3 ай бұрын
Hop was the first prototype
@DBravo29er
2 ай бұрын
I love it when Jason Reeves holds the mic like a wine glass stem. 🤌🫡
@beachboardfan9544
3 ай бұрын
Did they flex the barrel flexing issues?
@thepoliticalhitman
2 ай бұрын
lol new NGSW reminds me of everyone 20 years ago talking about how the SCAR rifles are going to change the world and I have to have one because SF guys are using them. Everyone still using AR's and AK's I have to have this because if I don't I'm going to be seen as poor.
@ostiariusalpha
2 ай бұрын
The SCAR was never a standardized weapon in the U.S. military, the XM7 is.
@thepoliticalhitman
2 ай бұрын
@@ostiariusalpha Scar was it just never made it through the unit evaluation 75th Rangers hated the thing and it died and was picked up by SOCOM in the 17 version. also, the 101st became the new T&E unit. if you go back to 2004 every unit was going to get scar rifles. The problem was the m4a1 or SOCOM barrel and upgrades came out and basically fixed the problems the army was having with the m4.
@2IDSGT
3 ай бұрын
Still don’t see full-house ammo. 😒
@TemptingFate-em5ho
3 ай бұрын
When do we get the 277 fury barrels?
@acoustic296
2 ай бұрын
Nice Jason😂
@brandonschwertley2723
3 ай бұрын
They removed the forward assist, but not the redundant T-handle at the back? Come on SIG
@poip202
3 ай бұрын
Not to mention the T handle is so stiff it's practically unusable lol.
@filovirus1
3 ай бұрын
I don't care what my wife says. I'm getting one.
@Doublezzranch
3 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ, it's Jason Reeves!
@tylerfrogley1227
3 ай бұрын
I literally shot my drink out of my nose reading this
@3300FPS
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for coming out Jason
@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@texasranger24
3 ай бұрын
I truely love Jack Reeves, best TFBTV moderator. Honestly i don't knwo what you would do without Joseph and his short shorts. Great guy!
@jezza6575
3 ай бұрын
I feel like a total douchebag…been watching TFB videos on KZitem for years and all this time I thought your name was James. Well I have to apologize brother…so sorry for the mix up Jason.
@Bigcat726
3 ай бұрын
0:30 from James to Jason reeves pretty funny 😄
@bghiggy
3 ай бұрын
It's Jason reeves because he slays his reporter competitors
@RikiToshi
3 ай бұрын
“Does it come in black?” -Bruce Wayne
@richr7215
3 ай бұрын
Sig is getting out of control. You buy one of their guns and six months later there's a completely different version of it. It gets kinda annoying.
@angelikat655
3 ай бұрын
I just thought the same thing.
@mortaljorgeguy
3 ай бұрын
I mean the army did change the gun they wanted no forward assist and a different handguard.
@printingwithpeek4897
3 ай бұрын
This isn't a completely different gun. It's an MCX Spear in a different caliber, different barrel, and no forward assist. You can literally swap the barrel out and your set. They use the same bolt.
@donalddickins8493
3 ай бұрын
Bro lol. All they did was remove forward assist change the handguard a little and throw the 277 barrel on it. Nothing changed really. Its all stuff that can be done to existing ones if you really want.
@printingwithpeek4897
3 ай бұрын
@donalddickins8493 Yea, exactly.
@jsnjyn
3 ай бұрын
Nope. Friends don’t let friends buy hype-beast sub-par guns from fickle manufacturers. Just sayin’.
@BassJunkie200
3 ай бұрын
"Jason Reeves" 😂
@Tornado1861
3 ай бұрын
Holy Crap, another Reeves brother? At the Thanksgiving table, this Jason guy has to compete with a mayor and a lawyer/tuber.
@darkkrow69
3 ай бұрын
I side with Small Arms Solutions. This gun is a waste of time and money.
@frenzy2223
3 ай бұрын
Jason Reeves! I better version with even shorter shorts. 🤣
@John_Redcorn_
3 ай бұрын
Jason is his gigilo name
@TheRif33
3 ай бұрын
Im pissed my tax dollars are wasted on this
@cjones070
3 ай бұрын
Your tax dollars are wasted when they go to entitlements. This is only a waste if it doesn’t make the troops more effective.
@joquin4618
3 ай бұрын
For real 😳
@Just_A_Gun_Guy
3 ай бұрын
3-4 moa rifle for 4k... exciting
@bghiggy
3 ай бұрын
For real. They need to lean into the dmr capability and accurize the gun more
@Just_A_Gun_Guy
3 ай бұрын
@bghiggy no joke. Shot my buddy's LT and it was terrible for the price. Like 2-3 MOA with good ammo.
@mig1nc
3 ай бұрын
@@Just_A_Gun_Guy Kind of kills the purpose of using the fancy NGSW-FCS computer sight.
@Clockwork0nions
3 ай бұрын
Guy you’re confused. The AUTOMATIC RIFLE (I.e. SAW replacement) is 4 MOA; not the Spear rifle 😂😂😂
@santanagamingcinema
3 ай бұрын
They lost against HK years ago with this platform in the CSASS program. But yeah SIG still could go back and work on its accuracy. I have one in .308 and its accuracy was okay once the barrel was tightened down some.
@jessitaylor4170
3 ай бұрын
I hope this rifle has the same fate as the M14 and the Scar.
@alexander1902
3 ай бұрын
Still in use?
@Sean-kp6pi
3 ай бұрын
Hard pass.
@James-cr5mc
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for all you do Jason.
@maddog7012
3 ай бұрын
Jason should have one-uped him and called the rifle the mcx "javoline"
@crossan008
3 ай бұрын
That’s a nah from me Jason 😂
@richardpeckerwood9851
3 ай бұрын
Jason….. guy loses all credibility. Fookin sig , get it together
@Landoftheignorant
3 ай бұрын
$2400 a case? For, what? Not the same ammo? I’m good.
@frankholub4673
3 ай бұрын
Oh boy I can't wait for them to make 1000 of them, develop a new generation 3 months later, drop support for it, and then move on to their next beta test product, putting more budget into the marketing campaign for it than the actual engineering and manufacture!
@dahriim5237
3 ай бұрын
I don't think that's the case, considering that this is the civilian version of what's been officially issued. Retro compatibility of parts is a must at this point. I would not be surprised, on the other hand, to see a new iteration of LT uppers with side charging handle hitting the market sooner or later. That's where I can still see a margin to fuck up again.
@PapaGanoush07
3 ай бұрын
Note the side charging handle is different and the handguard is too.
@jdm06types
3 ай бұрын
That smirk is hilarious 😂 James was doing his best to keep it together
@sidneyhuckabee3598
3 ай бұрын
Whoever's the showtime channel editor is they have great musical taste
@TFBTVShowTime
3 ай бұрын
Thanks. That would be me. - James
@sidneyhuckabee3598
3 ай бұрын
@@TFBTVShowTime of the Reeves variety? That's based
@DWalter.27
3 ай бұрын
@@TFBTVShowTime Oh, you must be the new guy! I'm only familiar with Jason
@TFBTVShowTime
3 ай бұрын
Hahaha nice Yes, I edit about 90 percent of TFBTV videos
@sidneyhuckabee3598
3 ай бұрын
@@TFBTVShowTime great work cuz I watch em all 😁
@charlesm.2756
3 ай бұрын
Looks like that juicy DoD contract ain't going to pan out.
@John_Redcorn_
3 ай бұрын
$4500?! Who do Sig think they are, HK?!
@mpow3r972
2 ай бұрын
FN with the SCAR 17s… “$3200 msrp is fair”. SIG out here like “That’s cute, 1000 rounds of our over-run ammo is only $800 less than your brown plastic rifle... AND that’s before we’ve even talked about our rifle/optic combo yet. Oh by the way, do you mind holding my delicious IPA?” 😂
@Peterkass235
3 ай бұрын
Jared reeves is my favorite gun tuber
@jorgenjorgensen656
3 ай бұрын
I've seen more 6.8 rifle variants come out than the actual .277 fury cartridge that was made for these
@Gunthusiest
3 ай бұрын
Spensive to make
@almostontimehero5415
3 ай бұрын
Well, there's two pressures and quality of ammo. Like .308 and 762x51. One is more expensive than the other but both work.
@ostiariusalpha
2 ай бұрын
It isn't because the ammo is "expensive to make" or such nonsense. The priority customer has been the DoD after the adoption of the Spear as the XM7. SIG's ammo production has been going almost entirely toward fulfilling their contract obligations until the 6.8×51mm lines are fully up and running at the new Lake City facility. As it is, I believe Winchester has managed to get some production lines set up, and this has relieved pressure off SIG enough for them to start making civilian 6.8mm again.
@celmer6
3 ай бұрын
Hey it's the gay and expensive version to replace the M14. What loser shit!
@ivaniuk123
3 ай бұрын
I'm going to wait for the conversion kit for the 277. There is zero reason (other than hype) that I would be scrambling to get this over the 308 version especially since the ammo isn't available.
@mysterioanonymous3206
3 ай бұрын
Yeah... Seriously.
@brianlee8769
3 ай бұрын
Agreed, it'll always be there
@nicholasstilley2370
2 ай бұрын
And people thought the F-35 was a waste of money lol
@justcallmejoeable
3 ай бұрын
John Reeves is my favorite firearms blogger
@smittdog1965
3 ай бұрын
Overpriced…..over $4k for the rifle….wow
@dallinmontgomery7326
3 ай бұрын
Jason Reeves intro was amazing
@phil20_20
2 ай бұрын
Everyone is shrinking back to the inferior 7.62mm and the mediocre 5.56mm over supply concerns, but this will be proven wrong in time.
@jessitaylor4170
3 ай бұрын
Waste of money!
@Barstool_cub_driver
3 ай бұрын
$4500 is absolutely ridiculous. Sig a highway robbery company anyway.
@injuredoutdoorsman9011
3 ай бұрын
It’s only the training ammo 6.8x51, so it’s even not the actual full power combat ammo
@hoppinggnomethe4154
3 ай бұрын
The fuck? A different gun. No forward assist.
@Iccirrus
3 ай бұрын
It's incorporating the revisions that the army called for. There are pics floating around of this version in military hands
@dahriim5237
3 ай бұрын
It's the same gun without FA and with a shovelnose handguard.
@oso1165
3 ай бұрын
3 moa rifle for 4k$
@7ElevenTruther
3 ай бұрын
At this price range, I think I'd rather buy a case of 6.5 creedmoor and assemble my own AR10 MRGG build.
@hairydogstail
3 ай бұрын
A fool and his money, which explains why the tax payer is paying for this boondoggle..
@DSS-jj2cw
3 ай бұрын
I did not James had a twin ! LOL.. I still can't see the weapon being issued to a recruits .
@oddduck9798
3 ай бұрын
Joaquin Reeves busting out videos like crazy
@BrothaGoodReps
2 ай бұрын
I agree with Jerome Reeves, this gun looks cool as shit.
@triggerfingerstudios
3 ай бұрын
Collector fan boy gun. Next please.
@DocMitchell69
3 ай бұрын
It’s not even a good collectors piece. No forward assist and different handguard. They can’t even get their own gun right. 😂
@Quality_Guru
2 ай бұрын
This beyond foolish if you have any respect for the money you earn.
@PapaGanoush07
3 ай бұрын
Help me ID the design changes in less than a year: Handguard is redesigned with no QD, extends further up front to protect the gas switch, and has a different recess by the side charger. Side charging handle is different and they deleted the black plastic ramp up front. No forward assist (obvious) Anything else? Wonder what changed internally.
@hk4lyfe59
2 ай бұрын
It looked cooler with the forward assist but who cares, right?
@Gameknigh
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video as always John Reeves!
@TheBoss10725
3 ай бұрын
Cool gun, I'll literally never be able to justify purchasing one
@ZzBiohazzardzZ
3 ай бұрын
Never say never
@bintjbeil7892
3 ай бұрын
With 4999 dollars, I can get a GUCCI'd out G3 with Spuhr furniture with spare change for ammo and training.
@calnky
3 ай бұрын
Disappointed that Janet Reeves didn’t wear his hot pants today ☹️
@ID-unavailable
3 ай бұрын
This new Jason guy looks alot like James
@ATTACKOFTHEBENZ
3 ай бұрын
Literally just tested these out in the National guard: We’ve got some gripes about them too. We’ve submitted our complaints 😂
@chaoschaoforever
3 ай бұрын
What kind of complaints?
@CheekRunner
3 ай бұрын
@@chaoschaoforevergarbage rod
@chaoschaoforever
3 ай бұрын
@@CheekRunner Like the op rod was bad?
@USN1985dos
3 ай бұрын
@@chaoschaoforever Not sure about the M7's, but I had the .308 version of this and it suuuucked. Way heavy, stock is a joke, the fit & finish wasn't great, trigger is meh, if you use the side-charging handle to lock the bolt back and then use the left-side bolt release it bites your thumb, I had some issues with PMAGs not dropping...just stuff like that. It doesn't feel like a $4,000 rifle.
@ATTACKOFTHEBENZ
3 ай бұрын
9lbs of gun, 2lbs of optic, 4lbs of Can - it ways a lot. Stock is a piece of shit. Love the trigger compared to an M4. Sling’s a joke I don’t believe every Tom, dick, and harry should be issued one, though.
@gebeme11
3 ай бұрын
@1:56 Jordan Reeves: Why should I pay a premium to get this over the regular version? Andy: Because it has a different barrel that shoots ammunition that you can't get.
@leileijoker8465
3 ай бұрын
Nah Jason. I ain't buying this
@removerinnawoods8536
3 ай бұрын
The low pressure training ammo is .277 Fury Who cares
@jamesgarrison5546
3 ай бұрын
277 fury is still full test, except for the brass cased version
@MattAGames
3 ай бұрын
The free market will take care of it. We will see AR-10s chambers in 6.8 soon and then the ammo will come down. It'll probably be like 20 years before it replaces 5.56 if it ever does
@ostiariusalpha
2 ай бұрын
7.62mm NATO is more threatened by 6.8×51mm than 5.56mm is; there's really nothing 7.62mm does that 6.8mm doesn't do better. The Army has already said that even if 6.8mm works spectacularly as a replacement for 7.62mm/5.56mm in frontline combat, 5.56×45mm will stick around for rear echelon troops for a long time.
@sanangelo7926
3 ай бұрын
Good report Jason
@davelpz3340
3 ай бұрын
It’s commercial, but regular people aren’t spending 3k plus on a rifle. Who’s it for?
@DWalter.27
3 ай бұрын
KZitemrs
@daa3417
3 ай бұрын
Collectors, every one of them will sell out and they’ll fight each other to pay $2500 for a box of the real military ammo. You can take this to the bank, it will come to pass.
@rickh9396
3 ай бұрын
Jason Voorhees is my favorite guntuber.
@lefunnyN1
3 ай бұрын
no forward assist but 2 charging handles (almost 3 in fact because the T charger is ambi) who thought it was a good idea
@geodkyt
3 ай бұрын
How is omitting the Jam Induction Button or allowing teo ways to charge the rifle so it allows the user to use the technique best suited for the exact circumstances bad things?
@lefunnyN1
3 ай бұрын
@@geodkyt 1. not being able to close the bolt on a dirty rifle 2. unnecessary complication of the rifle and also raising the costs of production and more potential parts breakage
@daa3417
3 ай бұрын
@@lefunnyN1I could take or leave a FA but your #2 is completely backwards, that’s what having an FA is arguably unnecessary complication that adds manufacturing cost and adds extra parts to eventually break. I don’t remember but is the side charging handle reciprocating? If so there’s your FA right there, just give it a bump with your palm if it gets crusty like you would with an AK.
@NosferatuandFriends
3 ай бұрын
I don't think Jake Reeves gets enough credit for these interviews.
@Sidekick_Snowman
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for talking about price
@ericb.4358
13 күн бұрын
Yeah, "TRAINING AMMO", not the hybrid cartridge 80,000 psi ammo, the "COMBAT AMMO". I hope DIG can improve the accuracy of the M7 with combat ammo. 4 MOA ain't very good!
@RyTrapp0
2 ай бұрын
"...there is no forward assist... ...turns out it wasn't necessary..." Meanwhile, the Air Force circa 1963(ish) - "...WHY TF DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT STUPID FORWARD ASSIST?! IT ISN'T NECESSARY..."
@hankwilliams-hx9ww
3 ай бұрын
DEAR GOD ITS JASON BOURNE... I MEAN JASON REEVES... I MEAN JAMES BOURNE... you know what. Nevermind. 😅
@abelincoln.2064
2 ай бұрын
If this is specifically for the civilian market, you should have asked if Sig would do a NGSW upper ... with a monolithic rail ... ambi side charging handle ... & no T-handle ... specifically for an AR & bullpup lower. Sig would make a killing ... with this NGSW upper ... for 7 mm 08, 6.5 CM, 308, & 6.8 x 51 .... with a AR & bullpup lower. The MCX should have always been a monolithic AR upper with ambi side charging specifically for an AR & Bullpup lower.
@mpow3r972
2 ай бұрын
FN with the SCAR 17s… “$3200 msrp is fair”. SIG out here like “That’s cute, 1000 rounds of our over-run ammo is only $800 less than your brown plastic rifle... AND that’s before we’ve even talked about our rifle/optic combo yet. Oh by the way, do you mind holding my delicious IPA?” 😂
@AJ-xc4nm
3 ай бұрын
I immediately went to the comments when he called him Jason lol.
@juanthelawnmowerthief1641
3 ай бұрын
The training ammo isn’t where the magic happens. Also what are the specs on the barrel since Sig doesn’t publish those? If you are going to be using the 6.8x51 full house loads I want a CHF chrome lined barrel.
@ostiariusalpha
2 ай бұрын
The 6.8×51mm barrels use DLC coatings instead of hard chrome. It's much tougher, more heat resistant, and has lower friction than chrome.
@LockStockNBarrel
3 ай бұрын
Extremely useless rifle for the average citizen. This will not sell lmao.
@rhy1013
2 ай бұрын
After being selected for NGSW, Sig has already reduced chamber pressure of the hybrid case 6.8x51 ammo. Between that and Sig’s reputation for QC issues, I’m predicting the contract gets canceled and we keep using 5.56 guns.
@bradleychilders811
3 ай бұрын
So…nothing new!
@にゃん太-kaminari-rarararai
2 ай бұрын
It's a high-tech gun that just came out, so it's expensive. Maybe it'll get cheaper someday.
@acheeseburger7367
3 ай бұрын
4000 for the gun, 2400 for a case of ammo… What is sig doing? Releasing proprietary ammo in an overpriced AR-10, along with gucci versions of already existing pistols. This is not the economy for this sort of products.
@brianbirchall6880
3 ай бұрын
Nice. $10,000 for the gun and a case of ammo. And you can always spend $2,000-$4,000 extra for the 308 or 6.6 barrel. What a deal.
@tylerfrogley1227
3 ай бұрын
I think he might have meant tango hahah same same, but different, but same
@karlcain1068
3 ай бұрын
$4 per round…
@raytaylor3077
9 күн бұрын
why didn't they just use 7.62 x 51mm ammo and rifles . why this round ? it seems like such a waste of money. our money of course
@RowdyElGuapo
3 ай бұрын
Pretty peanut butter
@2AToday
3 ай бұрын
Spear LT should be $1,799 and the larger one should be $2,499. No reason or excuse for the disgusting and greedy price gouging.
@madeleineollerton5993
3 ай бұрын
the training ammo is like, sub-.308 performance. zero chance of investing in this new military round if you can't get the actual full power loads.
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