MORE INFO on this video's contents can be found in the description box. Reckon you can build a €1000 system that plays vinyl and streams digital audio? Let us know in the comments below, remembering to provide manufacturer links and pricing for all components. No second hand or vintage suggestions. Why not? Supply/availability varies from country to country. As does price. As does warranty coverage.
@maxb.simonsen2459
5 жыл бұрын
Is the pioneer turntable really comparable to something like rega p1
@DarkoAudio
5 жыл бұрын
@@amb3cog Which turntable for $250 and with which 'decent cart'?
@DarkoAudio
5 жыл бұрын
@@maxb.simonsen2459 Yes. Especially when both ship with very basic cartridges. The arm on the Rega is probably better than that on the Pioneer but the Planar 1 sells for €380 and we still need a phono stage for it.
@juules9
5 жыл бұрын
Hello John, Thanks for the video and the concept. I was wondering if increasing the simplicity of this system with a Yamaha musicast Vinyl 500 (Vinyl + streamer in one box for +-560€) would be a good idea. I haven't tested this turntable yet.
@hmichael228
5 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done...
@cyryx20
5 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see some other budgets (500, 1500 and 2000). Thanks for this kind of videos, they are really helpful!
@SnoopySenpai
5 жыл бұрын
I am not John Darko but just bought a set up for about 2.000€: Turntable: Rega Planar 3 with Elys 2 (~950€) Amplifier: Yamaha A-S 701 (~480€) Speakers: Nubert nubox 383 (~440€/pair) Preamp(for ripping Vinyl): Rega Fono mini A2D (~120€) Total: 1.990€
@boomboxmachine
4 жыл бұрын
@@SnoopySenpai yes.. the Yamaha 701 is my current amplifier, hooked to BW CM1 and Sansui turntable. Superb sound.
@herberteddington8266
4 жыл бұрын
I have a set up that was only 315$ us up and running.😬😬😬👌🏽
@scottziegler4238
4 жыл бұрын
@@herberteddington8266 That's about how much I spent putting mine together, and it includes reel to reel, record, CD, tape, and 8 track players. I'm sure its subpar tone would rupture this man's highly sensitive eardrums.
@svalbard01
5 жыл бұрын
2:57 For Germans, 12 kites is the second highest you can be, surpassed only by 99 luftballons.
@DarkoAudio
5 жыл бұрын
That, my friend, is comment of the year. 👏🏻
@pspicer777
4 жыл бұрын
... ah you have to be a ... uh, certain age to really understand this. Not that *I* am ....
@StevenSchmitt
5 жыл бұрын
It's seems to me the best way to keep on the "budget" side of things is to stay away from vinyl altogether. Not only does it add a lot of component costs, but with records costing $20 -25 new... There goes the budget.
@StewartRoss
4 жыл бұрын
In Australia records cost $30++. I buy 2nd hand CD's, poor man's vinyl, $5-10 each.
@samueltaylor2757
4 жыл бұрын
With vinyl, you can explore the used market! I have a record store here in the UK selling 1000s of used records under £5. Also charity shops sell used records for dirt cheap
@Billybillybillyrocking
4 жыл бұрын
For me it's an investment and it gives the artists I support more money. My collection is worth over 2k. And just keeps going up. And I didn't even have a working turntable lol I have a lot of CDs as well. But I hunt for vinyl or preorder new records which is a better deal, and most are guaranteed to go up in cost. If I take care of them they will last, and be cool to pass down to my kids. I also have Spotify I use on the go, and CDs for road trips. But nothing beats vinyl for me. Color variants and just everything you get with it makes it king for me. It is more expensive but it supports the artists. Spotify doesn't pay diddly squat and the amount of records I would buy a year makes it worth it all for me.
@alexojeda9048
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I never got into vinyl so I'm not going to go and spend money getting vinyl copies of music I already own. Instead I'll spend the money on a better streamer.
@Peter-ii4xq
4 жыл бұрын
You can't have all. I would also start without a turntable. It allow's one to buy better speakers.
@sidvicious3129
5 жыл бұрын
This is great and it’s refreshing that you and Steve Guttenberg are taking this on. This is an under served and underrated part of the Audio industry and if we don’t serve it, it will hurt the industry as a whole keeping beginners who need to get in and replace the older folks out. There are starting to be more channels also willing to take this on and I hope the manufacturer are listening. The used market is also an excellent place to start that will keep cost down, which is where I started and continue to use, which allows great components at affordable prices.
@DarkoAudio
5 жыл бұрын
I think it takes quite a bit of experience to take on this kind of video and Steve has way more than I. Listen to him more than me.
@lewisdell7036
5 жыл бұрын
SMSL P1+Allo Boss Player/Marantz CD5005 - Schiit Sys - Schiit Loki - Marantz NR1607 Receiver - Emotiva BasX A100 - Klipsch R-600P Floorstanders - Generic overhead speakers (for Dolby Atmos) - Generic Rear Bipole speakers (for Surround Sound Movies but also Multichannel Stereo Music) Total cost £1700. But I also boast: the BasX to power any headphone on the planet handsomely (namely in this instance Audeze LCD2 and 600 Ohm AKG Sextettes) Four band analogue tone control (the Loki) which is so much more fun than digital! Dual linear power supply for the Pi and Boss DAC! Full surround sound or just stereo preamp volume control at touch of a button! (Sorry to make it seem complex but it's just so worth getting to learn because you're so well set then for home cinema as well as a whole world of audiophilia).
@iancognito8047
5 жыл бұрын
More low-end stuff please! We all aspire to the dreamy $x,000 stuff, but I'm guessing that's a niche market in TRW.
@TheJimmerritt
5 жыл бұрын
Encouraging for many of us. Sure, there may be many components that can fit the budget, but we get to learn here of particular parts we're likely not aware of. Ones that make a good 'starter' OR a keeper-system till investment savings accumulate. May I add, turntables are essential for enjoying collections, a library and the quality that a needle and groove make particularly exceptional. Thanks, John
@jeffrielly
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm finding these videos on budget friendly audio systems as I'm more of a minimalist, so I'd want something that I can combine into using as my computer speakers, as well as a music listening system.
@nakfan
5 жыл бұрын
I really like that you suggest components / a setup that one would not normally consider / be aware of. Thumbs up for that, too. BR, Per - Denmark
@heretustay
3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the midst of building my first rig. Got a pair of klipsch r41m's that I'm not thrilled with and now I'm well down the rabbit hole of trying to build out a whole system. Thanks for this starters guide!
@mihir1997
5 жыл бұрын
Great system put forth here. I like the idea of keeping it simple at this price point as it really is a price point for people that are on the fence about the benefits of investing in an audio system. I wish this had been available when i was working toward setting my own system up but I think I am pretty ecstatic with what I pulled together for a similar pricepoint albeit in canadian Rubles which convert at a rate of approximately 700canadianrubles to 1 euro (sorry currency humour) TT: Fluance RT-80 (with phono stage) - $250 Streamer: Fiio M11 - $350 Amplifier: DaytonAudio AP150 - $150 Speakers: KEF Q100 - @270 (on clearance) A few wiring gizmos to adapt the fiio output to RCA - $20 Total: $1040 CAD Can't fault this system at all to be honest. I have a cap to what i can discern and this system easily surpasses that cap. would i like a TT with a slightly heavier/more robust platter though? yes.
@shunpillay
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Would love to see more. I vote for a $500 version as that space has become pretty interesting with affordable yet high quality Chinese amplifiers and DACs.
@justatiger6268
4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate a channel that speaks in €€€ as opposed to $$$ -_-
@DocBrewskie
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking about getting into higher end audio for a while. Other folks on you tube really come off as elitist & snobby. You are the first youtuber I’ve found that I don’t feel would laugh at my lack of knowledge.thank you for that.
@DarkoAudio
4 жыл бұрын
The internet is full of men all too ready to tell you why something you like is shit.
@Hirogumi
4 жыл бұрын
You’re so awesome John. I really appreciate the the work you and your team, shoutout to Olaf, puts together! I really enjoyed your insight.
@DarkoAudio
4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@pedrovasconcelos8260
5 жыл бұрын
Just a small recommendation: try to get an iFi iPower 5v low noise switching mode PSU for powering the RPI + DAC; it costs around €50 and is clear improvement over cheap PSUs that come bundled with the RPi.
@NarrowFTW
5 жыл бұрын
Always great to hear your perspective and I got a kick of out seeing your coffee setup - my worlds just collided! I like the concept of merging analogue with digital, but my suggestion would be two more videos: analogue only for 1000 and digital for 1000. I'd read that as the next level for both paths given the savings from the other medium not being present. Keep these up, fantastic work!
@redstarwraith
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Steve Guttenberg recently started a series of videos of different systems at various price points. It's among his most useful work (in my opinion). This was very good. Although I do not live in Europe, it is interesting to hear about what can be had there for little money. Well done, John!
@radiocoffin4185
5 жыл бұрын
Great videos!!! You’re an inspiration to many budget conscious audiophiles like myself. Keep up the good work John!👍
@buffal0bilious
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation video! I tried something like this myself recently, but rather than purchasing dedicated streaming, conversion, and preamplification components, I went with a mid-range Marantz A/V receiver. The NR1509 has a phono input, DAC, subwoofer outputs, supports streaming on most popular services through its app, and has WiFi and bluetooth. I believe it sounds a bit better than most of the other do-it-all boxes at its current $399 price. It's last year's model, so it doesn't sell at its $549 MSRP any longer on Amazon. I'm sure none of it's top-notch, but it's all serviceable and sounds pretty good to boot. Just an alternative in case someone prefers a do-it-all box rather than separates, although the separates allow for modular upgrading and when matched up by someone who knows their stuff, as above, probably sound a bit better. Still, the Marantz receiver with a pair of, say, Emotiva B1s (love that folded ribbon tweeter) and a Dayton Sub 1000 would give you a pretty-good sounding, nearly full-range system (30Hz - 20kHz) with all the streaming and conversion options most folks would need, and you'd come in at $740 ($400 + $230 + $110). Still enough budget left over to tack on a decent little turntable from Fluance or U-Turn if need be, perhaps an RT81 ($210 as of this writing)? That'd bring the total to $950. The reason I'm going with the Emotiva B1 rather than the ELAC Debut B6.2 is that, while the ELAC can stand on its own two feet better than the Emotiva due largely to it not rolling off significantly until the 50s (Hz) where the Emotiva begins to really roll off around 80Hz, the sub will be picking up the low-end, and I think that in that case, the ELAC loses its primary advantage, and so keeping Emotiva's superior feature, that lovely ribbon tweeter, is the priority for me. The prices I listed are the going rates for these items as of Sept 2019. The manufacturer links may display higher MSRPs. Marantz NR1509 ($400) - www.us.marantz.com/us/products/pages/productdetails.aspx?catid=avreceivers&productid=nr1509 Emotiva B1 Bookshelf Speakers ($230/pair) - emotiva.com/products/airmotiv-b1 Dayton Audio Sub 1000 ($110) - www.daytonaudio.com/index.php/sub-1000-10-100-watt-powered-subwoofer.html Fluance RT81 Turntable ($210) - www.fluance.com/rt81-high-fidelity-vinyl-turntable-record-player-with-premium-cartridge-diamond-needle
@DarkoAudio
5 жыл бұрын
A really nice set of suggestions! Thanks for sharing.
@arthurwatts1680
5 жыл бұрын
For the benefit of the 36 *misanthropes* who have taken the time out of their busy day to dislike your vid, this is one of very few (from anyone) that I've bothered to give the thumbs up, simply because I think YT is an ad-delivery mechanism for people with very little to say. Kudos for being one of the few who *does* have something to say, and your production values remain first rate.
@stephencosta6814
5 жыл бұрын
I love this video of yours please do a more expensive system $2000 and a less-expensive system $500 system
@kevindilworthno1
5 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think out side the box, literally
@noellappin3864
5 жыл бұрын
I like the good practical approach, great article. The use of the Schiit preamp to integrate the system is excellent.
@arnurson
4 жыл бұрын
My current setup came in at 850€. Pro-ject Maia DS (w built in phono pre-amp, D/A converter, bluetooth) bought at 50% off and a pair of Klipsch rp150m bought at 20% off. If I add a small 8” sub for ~150€, I come in at 1000€. I cheated a little bit because I got a really beautiful turntable for free, but I suspect a lot of people can if they just bother asking around a little bit. There are lots of fantastic turntables stored away just collecting dust, so don’t be surprised if you know someone who would sell theirs for a relatively low price.
5 жыл бұрын
Wow you just did a walk through of my system :) Except instead of Schiit Sys, I use Mackie Big Knob Passive.
@asheshchand3616
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Milenko! What kind of cable you used to connect your turntable to big knob? I am bit lost with connections. I am buying lp120x turntable, which has rca output and on the other end I am planning to buy t5v. And decided on big knob as interface between them.
@gaza4543
5 жыл бұрын
Think the only thing you missed John was some speaker stands, i would change a few things but as you rightly say its a jumping point great little video for people starting out
@ememe1412
5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same. Probably in the price range of the Raspberry component... (I'd imagine by now that everyone has an old laptop they can re-use exclusively for music with a good soundcard to start.) The stands would be more my priority to get a good listen and feel for a stereo setup.
@brubeck1
4 жыл бұрын
yes they are amazing. cuts out 90 % of vibration across the floor.
@barrymiller3385
2 жыл бұрын
The one slightly surprising assumption you've made here is that your target audience would own LP's but not CD's. For an established audiophile that might be true. But for someone starting out on their hifi journey I would have thought that they are much more likely to own a few CD's than to have any LP's. And starting an LP collection from scratch (wince! sorry!) would take the budget waaaay over €1,000.
@paulhargreaves1497
2 жыл бұрын
True...and John is literally doing this video with a wall of CDs behind him!
@arthursimsa9005
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@mranthony1886
Жыл бұрын
USB CDROM - still fits in the budget
@ossirioth
4 жыл бұрын
As a complete novice looking to make my first hi-fi system purchase this is a great video; as your friends say, it's the complete lack of knowing where to start that's the killer. I know you need to match speakers and amp, no idea against what "rules", and no idea if you need to do that with the other components too? So more vids like this would be very much appreciated thanks!
@gabriellundmark
5 жыл бұрын
Why not just get rid of the turntable entirely and have €400 more to put on speakers?
@AugustoRallo
5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. But many like the vinyl experience, can't blame them
@emmanuelferguson
5 жыл бұрын
I'd say if you're thinking of dedicating that much more for speakers, it's worth to invest in a better player or preamp/amp for that matter, so the budget would ultimately be a bit more split than just 400 to the speakers. A big part of turntables are the experience it adds to listening to music, but more so having a great source, so it would be smart to add to the source in that case.
@CheetahNL
5 жыл бұрын
Speakers such as the small Genelecs..... Oh yeahh....
@psligchers7374
5 жыл бұрын
The speakers are the most important. With the marantz cr611 for 334 euro’s and the lenco 3808 for 175 now you have over 500 left for the speakers. (Kef q150) or secondhand b&w 685 for 200 euro’s. Too Much to choose lol
@classicrock7890
5 жыл бұрын
The whole point of the exercise was to get vinyl in. Not just you, but why does the internet anti vinyl brigade always have to raise its ugly head when turntables are mentioned? Some people can't accept other's preferences or choices. I do think the Pi device is a bit complex for beginners to set up.
@markphilpot4981
5 жыл бұрын
$500 system? Talking about miracles out of nowhere, but you did well with $1,100~! Getting a system for $500 is a bit more on the miraculous side. Possible, yes! Probable, that remains to be seen. In the real world where most people live, just living is a difficulty. However, it is fun to have something worth escaping to and from. Good luck John! This seems highly appropriate for a great many more than just a few. Nice coffee machine!
@agarciasanz
5 жыл бұрын
Very useful!!! As someone who is entering this world, having this type of set for a given threshold is a great way of removing part of the info asymmetry we ignorants suffer. And then, once we get the idea of the components, we can play marginally within the set. I bought a pair of Navis ARB-51 with the Discovery, a Technics 1200 MKII, and then I stacked the Modi DAC, the Locki Eq and the Vali Tube preamp from Schiit. I am super happy but would love to explore the next step. Thanks for all the info.
@JohnTwo1
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the boss player is too complicated for most low end users who just want to plug and play. I have installed several Klipsch active speaker setups instead. People can connect their phones and computers through bluetooth and it has an integrated phono preamp as well. Source selection through the remote. It's even an soundbar killer through optical.
@karlailin
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, John. That's why I sold my Totem's, paid my debt and got a Kali Audio paired with my existing NAD 356DAC and that's all I need.
@samueltung
5 жыл бұрын
I love the simplify of the recommendation, and the entertaining value of the video. just a great video, can't wait for the next one.
@riccitone
5 жыл бұрын
John, you’re the best. This was excellent...and thanks to your review (way back) of the Allo Digione, I ended up with a front end that gave me the option for some excellent components to assemble a comparably high quality system for comparably very little $$ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@sebastianponkko6505
3 жыл бұрын
Monitor audio bronze 5 speakers, Emotiva PT-100 pre-amp, 2x lovely Rotel RB-971 bridged power amps and an iFi zen blue bluetooth player. Got some new, some used, and I guess I landed somewhere around 1200€. Really pleased with the sound for this money. Those old Rotels are small miracles bridged 😎
@cdeaker
5 жыл бұрын
My setup is similar but instead of the Schiit Sys I am using a Tisbury Mini Passive Preamplifier II - it has TWO outputs as I sometimes want to use headphones. One of the outputs can be set to fixed line-out/tape loop or an additional primary output where the volume knob affects the output. It also has three rather than two inputs like the Sys
@MB-js3tf
4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha RN 602 (amp & streamer) £379 in Silver Rega Planar P1 (record player) £249 in White Q Acoustic 3030i (speaker) £329 in White All in for ~£950, money left over for cables, and it’ll look so good you partner will not mind having it in the front room ;-)
@JoseVega70
5 жыл бұрын
Great video.. Please make more of these types of videos, it's so refreshing to have some kind of guidence in this over populated market of budget audio and finding what's good. Love your attitude towards audio gear, keep up the great looking video productions. Your the MAN!!!
@howardwilliams9968
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another brilliant, informative video. If you are inclined, then a similar system put together in the £2k and £3k price limit would be grand. ( please include cables in those price limits). Cheers H.
@krsp420
5 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of the fun for me over the years in hifi land has been exploring different products. Obviously not on a reviewer level like Darko, but still, swapping different components, listening to music you love again with a new lens, forming opinions etc etc. This is all to say I think you aught to buy an amp and un-powered speakers...so that you can swap the amp and speakers. The fun being the swapping and listening. If you ever think youll want to tinker, its worth it. For what its worth, I've suggested this budget line up to a few friends using what ever sources they are starting with: Schiit Fulla (as a combo headphone amp, DAC), into a Kinter Tripath k2020 Amp, into Micca RB42's (speakers) (or to save $40 the pioneer BS22LR). This is a approx $250-$300 system that is fully up-gradable. It lets you then explore headphone land, as a good set up for a desk, get into entry level turntables (Like the orbit U-turn), Upgrade the amp to a topping, get more Schiitt products etc. A ramble. Sorry.
My beginning setup for entry into vinyl 3 years ago or so was Edifier R980T powered speakers, that I got for 50 bucks on prime day, and an Audio Technica AT-LP60 that was around 100. I've since moved onto other components, but I paid forward the LP60 to my friend, and it's seeing regular use to this day.
@JK-gm6kk
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Jones has designed some great low cost speakers. Specifically, ELAC Debut B6 and Pioneer SP-FS52. Both pairs should cost plus or minus 300, maybe less in the used market, and I've really enjoyed.
@gr328
5 жыл бұрын
That is a challenge - I remember the £1000 'budget' system from 25 years ago ;-) £300 each for a cd, amp and speakers + cables.
@DrFeelGoodKali
4 жыл бұрын
I like this video a lot! Please make one with a higher price point as well. Maybe 2000$, 1500$and so on. There are a lot more budget minded audiophiles than those who can afford $1000 cables. Thanks for a great channel.
@sirenbrian
5 жыл бұрын
To me that still sounds pretty fiddly. I'd go for ELAC B6.2 and the PS Audio sprout. Most modern "audiophile-curious" people, in my experience, don't have vinyl collections - they're streaming.
@DarkoAudio
5 жыл бұрын
Sure - I take your point. But that wasn't the brief here. The brief was vinyl AND streaming for a grand.
@TheRjee
5 жыл бұрын
@Scientific Humanist if you have a mediocre table set up horribly, yes.
@psligchers7374
5 жыл бұрын
John Darko the marantz melodie serie Has streaming, internet radio, dab+, bluetooth, cd player, 2x usb. Left about 670 for the TT and the speaker and very easy setup. Sounds fine to me (before Yamaha mx1000 and cx1000 with b&w 803n) now the cheap way haha
@nacarp2000
5 жыл бұрын
Brian, then take this to be a recommended $600 system.
@willmac5642
5 жыл бұрын
The latest Sprout does look v good. And the Elec Debut are amazing. I prefer the first model, for some reason, sounds sweeter
@sphaera3809
5 жыл бұрын
I’d also recommend, for those that want to get into (light) DIY, to look at speaker kits from Madisound (I got a SB Acoustics Micro and it is jaw dropping) and a ICE Power amp module on a Ghentaudio case. Cables using Canare parts. It will add much more value to that 1k’ish budget.
@johnshore3095
5 жыл бұрын
Or the LX Mini 👍
@adamyelle4901
4 жыл бұрын
Very creative choice. Love it! I would have never thought to go down this path.
@TheAughoti
4 жыл бұрын
with most people streaming music from a digital source I would love to see an entry level, mid level and high end set up for digital streaming. this should include DIY due to the availability of quality components available in kit form. The RaPI has opened doors for us. DIY speakers have done the same. It's the other kit that still needs some help.
@12inchRules
4 жыл бұрын
Than I’m sure there is enough material on the Internet.
@sudd3660
5 жыл бұрын
in europe i can get Audiolab M-ONE integrated amp with QUAD S-2 speakers for about that price. stream some spotify from your pc and you got hell of a system and access to free parametric eq in the digital domain before it hits the dac.
@Ustaleone
5 жыл бұрын
not new you can't
@sudd3660
5 жыл бұрын
want me to buy just to prove my point? its a webshop i used before, got all kinds of deals on new gear. shipped to my country for free.
@philippfarnschlader2300
5 жыл бұрын
@@sudd3660 would you mind to share that webshop with us? :)
@geoffreydebrito7934
5 жыл бұрын
Links? All easily found on Amazon: Music Hall - MMF-1.3 Turntable - $289.00 ... Bluesound POWERNODE 2i Wireless Multi-Room Streaming High-Res Amplifier - White - Works with Alexa and Siri - $699.00 ... Pioneer SP-FS52 Andrew Jones Designed Floor standing Loudspeaker - $198.00 Total: $1186.00 = 1083.65 EU... Turntable has speed change knob & pre-installed cart. Amp has headphone stereo mini jack, subwoofer RCA mono, BluOS app for Android or Apple phone or tablet, ROON ready. Least spent on most likely future upgrade.
@nikkendall6801
4 жыл бұрын
Great video and content as usual. A video about the lowest you could get a complete system before it actually hurt your ears/principles could be fun.
@soring5880
5 жыл бұрын
Yamaha R-N602, deal of the century at £350, £500-550 for a pair of decent floor standers and £100 for a used turntable if you insist.
@tom_loves_audio_tech_gaming
5 жыл бұрын
Adam' audio T5V's are awesome! have these for my PC setup.
@soulshinobi
4 жыл бұрын
You could release a budget build video every month and I'd be happy. This is the best way to make the hobby accessible to get new people into it, plus the budget theme helps combat the negative snobbish image of audiophilia.
@joyoo72
5 жыл бұрын
My 5 cents: - Denon RCD-N10 cd/network reciever (retail price the Netherlands € 399) www.denon-hifi.nl/nl/product/compactsystem/networksystem/ceoln10 - Denon DP-300F turntable (retail price the Netherlands € 236) www.denon-hifi.nl/nl/product/hifi/turntable/dp300f - Dali Spektor 2 speakers (retail price the Netherland for a pair € 258) www.dali-speakers.com/nl/loudspeakers/spektor/spektor-2/ Total retail price € 893
@the_sheik
5 жыл бұрын
My current budget-fi system also runs at about 1000usd: Project debut carbon (400) Project phono box (130) Onkyo CSN575 all-in-one cd player/streamer/amp (300) Klipsch R51B (160)
@nicolajc
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting setup - never heard about the Onkyo all-in-one. 10% THD - but I guess it can easily drive the Klipsch speakers. Some kind of Streaming and cd monster. I like that it has an subwoofer pre-out.
@the_sheik
5 жыл бұрын
@@nicolajc I was looking for a budget all in one with a small footprint, Chromecast and a CD drive. This is basically the only option out there. Another bonus is that it actually has decent support with regular fw updates
@bmurphygbr
5 жыл бұрын
Was thinking of commenting but hey, you seem to be covered! Thanks for your down-to-earth-ness John, much enjoyed and will keep watching!
@39mdg92
4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with the recommendation for active speakers. They are a great starting point and save a lot of space especially when Hifi and Desk occupy the same space. I have a pair of Adam A5x, the pricier cousins of the speakers recommended here, and they have amazing clarity and resolution. They're hooked up to a NAD C165 preamp, which has a second set of outputs, so if I upgrade my room I could use the A5x for near field at the desk and drive a power amo and passive Hifi Speakers for listening across the room on the couch, all using the same superbly built and linear preamp. But for now I use the A5x for both roles and they sound great in mid field distance with great stereo stage. Perfect Sweet Spot is rather small but still sound good anywhere else in the room.
@britishbiasf1
4 жыл бұрын
Hey John, so I took your video to heart and got some of the things you recommended and then some... 1. Adam Audio T5V $400 2. Schiit Sys $50 3. PS2 (As a CD transport) (Second hand) $40 4. Old Audio Technica Turntable I had in storage $FREE 5. IFI Micro idsd Black Label $600 Total $1,090 So yeah more or less a grand, but i wanted a good dac and a headphone amp too so the ifi seemed like the best choice for me. I use the optical out in the PS2 and feed it to the ifi and sound great. I use a computer or my iPad or cell phone as a digital transport/streamer. Thanks for the advice. The system sounds great and look forward to adding things in the future. All the best.
@DarkoAudio
4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! This comments section lives for comments like yours. :)
@gipht1
4 жыл бұрын
David Torres so all I would need is speakers n Schiit Sys cuz I dont need a turntable and Already have a Dap abd Ifi micro and need cables of course, sounds sweet to start with.
@tropentine
4 жыл бұрын
Let's be real. A lot of these 10,000+ dollar items are placebo. At a certain point, it doesn't really get better. The best system I've ever heard, the best system that the majority of my friends have heard was the $800 setup in my room. With proper room conditioning, diy speaker inclosures and particular placement of furniture and speakers. I've had my own rooms with upwards of $10,000 of equipment and besides appearance, they didn't add a whole lot. This man isn't just an audiophile, hes a man with money and time, so he might as well buy unnecessary and pricey accessories. That's my speech.
@johncolton
5 жыл бұрын
This is a *great* topic since it's where most people will struggle...analysys paralysis. I think there's room for a bigger range between $1k and $10k or even $20k. Maybe outline 3 price categories for each component (cheap, decent and expensive) with an opportunity to mix and match to create systems at a ton of price points. By giving 3 real component options at each price point, people can quickly out together a system at their budget.
@mrpositronia
5 жыл бұрын
That's cool. The rest of the money can go on the cables. :)
@mfid0
5 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a recommendation for a system built around the KEF LSX
@JE-tn5tc
5 жыл бұрын
My current system consist of: Kef Q350 ($499) Sony STR DH190 ($149) AudioTechnica LP120xUSB ($249) Ifi Nano iDSD LE ($139) Total: $1,036. Im happy with it in my small bedroom. Next upgrade would be a better amplifier.
@twelvebears1971
4 жыл бұрын
Great suggested system John, not one I would have come up with but very creative. 👍
@mylife1164
4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest: Tangent Ampster BT II, Henry Audio USB DAC 128 MK3, KEF Q100 speakers, Kimber Kable 4 VS Speaker Cable, Kimber Kable PBJ Interconnect. The Ampster amplifier is terrific and have integrated bluetooth. Playing music from PC is super easy.
@scottlilly4091
4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the klipsch 600m’s and the marantz pm7000n.... 1700 shipped. US $ ...... I couldn’t be any happier!
@Hyper1555
4 жыл бұрын
Had the Dali zensor 3 (or take the newer dali oberon now) and onkyo TX-8020. Amazing setup for the budget hifi-consumer! Coupled with a chromecast and you have great digital hifi system! You can even couple it with a turntable on the onkyo. I now have the Dali rubicon 5 + nad c388, but the budget dali line comes in really close coupled with a true (budget) stereo receiver.
@oli992
4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate it, that you included a TURNTABLE ! Great video! Oli
@icemax7
5 жыл бұрын
Please don’t cast me wrong for my take on the LSX John. I simply went for it watching your review and I’m loving every bit of it. Although, never will match the sound stage given by separates
@mnmlist1454
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John. More videos on budget/entry level components, please :)
@pesto9
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love your approach getting the most out of each carefully considered component.
@audiorick841
5 жыл бұрын
Great video John. Thank you. You referred to a panel four years ago with Steve, coincidentally I just watched it this week and loved it. You were a great moderator by the way 👊🏻
@DarkoAudio
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching but the New York panel predates that RMAF seminar.
@audiorick841
5 жыл бұрын
John Darko Is the NY panel on KZitem? If it is, I would like to watch it too.
@pumareyes1
5 жыл бұрын
I am a budget nut. System one. I have a Cambridge Topaz AM5 $100, Klipsch RP-51M $124 on sale. Micca speaker cable $20. Dayton Speaker Stands $75. I plug my SAMSUNG Galaxy and I am happy. Tidal and Spotify are my go to services. A budget streamer is next.
@Mr.P001
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Darko Please continue with lower and higher price points.
@Peter-ii4xq
4 жыл бұрын
Another great advice John. A hifi shop can't give these kind of suggestions, because they are in business.
@denniswade6727
5 жыл бұрын
I love videos like this! It is difficult for newbies to navigate the world of audio these days, and simple guides that can help to assemble an affordable music system are very needed. I think one of the first hurdles to overcome is to help people understand that a music system is different from a home theatre and that they usually require different approaches, unless you learn to enjoy simple 2 channel audio for movies. ...... did you forget the phono stage, or did I just miss it?
@dufonrafal
5 жыл бұрын
My personal cheap new HiFi system: DAC: ESS Sabre (built in my MSI GS75, that's not cheating :o ) = 0€ (I need the PC anyway...) Amp: Denon PMA-AE = 189€ (you have to look around) Speakers: Focal Chorus 706 = 260€ Cables : 2.5mm available at the time = 10€ I love it
@sonicmainliner
5 жыл бұрын
I think that trying to squeeze two sources in at this price point is too much, I'd go with good analog and cheapo streaming (bluetooth adapter, or chromecast music) or pure streaming/digital.
@gaza4543
5 жыл бұрын
no its completly possible you can make a banging system see below Marantz PM6006 (has a dac and phono pre built in), Monitor Audio Bronze 1, phone / ipad /tv for streaming or similar (assuming pretty much everyone has something of that nature these days) so that lot come in at £519 amp and speakers for touch over budget you could add Denon DP-450USB with speed selectors and a denon cart or for a little less (a lot less) Pro-Ject Elemental (most will be listening at 33 1/3 rpm) with an ortifon blue £882 all in leaving plenty of room for a streamer if needed. its a shame the chrome cast audios are no longer available. Will sound fantastic
@AlphaMachina
4 жыл бұрын
My under $1000 system that sounds pretty damn fantastic are Truth B2031A monitors with Onyx Artist 1-2. Simple, clean, sounds great, and you can get a quiet, subdued listening experience, or (because they're massive 275w a piece 8" monitors), you can crank them up a bit and throw a party if you want. For connections, there's two balanced TRS cables and a USB cable to your PC. That's it! No amp needed because the monitors are powered. Also, if the issue is that you don't have a PC to run the Onyx Artist, you can run on something like this for $150, and load up an external drive with thousands of songs, or just stream directly from your favorite service. Plug the Onyx Artist into it via USB, and it'll handle most of the audio processing, so the speed of the PC doesn't really matter. Going this route, you're still spending less than $1000. www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B075FHNZC8 www.amazon.com/Mackie-Interface-Onyx-Artist-1-2/dp/B07664LMPQ www.amazon.com/BEHRINGER-Studio-Monitor-Black-B2031A/dp/B0002MRCLQ www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120XUSB-Direct-Drive-Hi-Fidelity-Anti-Skate/dp/B07N3W8B5M $400 for the speakers/monitors. $100 for the Onyx Artist $150 for the PC $15 for the balanced TRS cables to go from Onyx to speakers. $665~ for a seriously serious system. With turntable = $915 For headphones and turntable, read on, and, you'll STILL barely be spending as much as he did in this video, but you'll also end up with a PC and, imo a better setup: And the Onyx has two inputs as well, so you could run a turntable (or instrument[s] and mics) right into the instrument input with a 3.5mm/RCA to TRS cable, or RCA to 3.5mm with a TRS adapter. I use the Audio-Technica AT-LP120X USB for this. Got it secondhand from a friend for $160, but it's only $250 new, is direct drive, has USB, etc. It already comes with a fantastic cartridge, so you don't need to replace it. Much better bang for your buck, imo, than the Pioneer and Ortofon. Honestly, you'd be hard pressed to say that combination would sound or function any better than the AT-LP120X and you're spending a lot less. I also have the Philips SHP9500 and Status Audio CB-1 headphones. Inexpensive, but also great sounding. The CB-1's are the perfect starter headphones if you want something with seriously great sound quality for less than $70. I'd take them over quite a few $500~ headphones. The turntable in this scenario is not needed to have a good listening experience. That's just a thing you do if you're interested in vinyl, and I already had a massive vinyl collection from my parents, so it was a worthwhile investment.
@brendanoreilly2014
5 жыл бұрын
great work - would love to see more system recommendations for the higher price points, thank you
@JMJM75257
4 жыл бұрын
Nice little system config. Although if your willing to buy some parts used (speakers) you can save even more money. I'd have to recomend the smsl sa300 for an amp as it's a all in one DAC amp Bluetooth combo. Yes the DAC isn't the best and could be improved upon with a proper standalone DAC but for £120 this thing is a steal. It also has a sub out! As for decent DACs I'd recommend looking into topping, smsl and schit for great budget options.
@bobdehaan117
5 жыл бұрын
Use the 60 Euro's which left for a lineair power supply for the Allo Boss.
@kinsoncooper7333
5 жыл бұрын
Well done... even audioholics had a shot at a 1k system... But I see what you're doing for the community.... get people to the entry level, thinking about what their doing and then grow from there... I've been spying your vids for awhile now... 👍🏽👍🏽 I'm now subscribed.
@andr192
5 жыл бұрын
Elac b6.2 + yamaha r-n303 is what i use for my desk setup and works pretty well ! I also have a massdrop airist r2r dac and a massdrop liquid carbon x for my headphones, the dac also feeds the amp, and couldn't be happier honestly. Great video! it is amazing what $1000 can get you.
@nickdenbow4379
4 жыл бұрын
I like this video a lot. It got me thinking differently. Just two observations - if using active speakers then running power to them will compound your cable problems (e.g. I don't have power running along the wall where my speakers sit). Also this model does not account for interconnect cabling costs, but that's just being picky. I already have a turntable. I have recently moved into a new (smaller) place. I would like an amplifier with integrated streaming and some passive speakers for the same budget or lower. Good channel though. Another new subscriber here....
@solomonicroots4932
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear your views on the Teufel Power hifi.
@Kevin-mb4xf
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. In this video you touch on a subject that I would love to see tackled. You say that one of the concerns people have, getting into HiFi is not knowing how to put together a system. I see many lists like "get this under X". But nobody ever explains how to do it. What if I want something else, what do I look for, etc. Would you make a video where you get into how to put a system together, rather than buy these components?
@hvskyline1368
4 жыл бұрын
The set up im saving for is a smsl m300 for the dac then the vincent phono pre with the external PSU and the uturn orbit custom with a ortofon red cart then the liquid spark for my headphone amp then the Topping PA3 speaker amp with the debut 6.2s then later upgrading to the zu dirty weekenders
@SpeakerBuilder
5 жыл бұрын
I really like the active speakers suggestion, major bang for the buck, but the greatest weakness to this system is the total lack of bass response. No 5 1/4 inch driver can produce bass down to 30 Hz, esp at a sufficiently loud enough volume. So the addition of a good subwoofer would be essential to balance this system out. Otherwise, very nice suggestions.
@felixj401
4 жыл бұрын
Speaker Builder hmm so techno and drum and bass won’t sound good on this, got it
@alfrednerstu
5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻 I’d love to see a video with a system without a turntable, only focusing on streamer/dac/amp/speaker.
@ChenOs
4 жыл бұрын
Rega Planar 1 + Klipsch The Sixes + Chromecast Audio. There you go.
@shreyasdharur7748
5 жыл бұрын
Alternately, get Dynaudio Xeo 2s and an Audio Technica turntable, and you're all set for $1000.
@StewartRoss
5 жыл бұрын
Remove the turntable. Would love to see what you come up with for €1000 streaming-only hi-fi system.
@joonabremer9267
4 жыл бұрын
Adam T7V and Sub 8 lol
@Kevin-mb4xf
4 жыл бұрын
I so agree with that tyranny of choice. I want to get my wife and I a nice system but without having to sell any organs. So, thank you for making this video!
@Twim_Kersel
4 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Audio Technica LP120X (€220), a pair of JBL Control One Speakers (€120) and an Onkyo TX8220 (€250) And for €590 you get a good start setup. Maybe the speaker could use an upgrade with an subwoofer. (Turntable, speakers and Receiver comes in black or silver) I use the speaker for myself (5 pieces in my home cinema) and like the price/build quality from Onkyo.
@JBOsurf
5 жыл бұрын
KEF LSX. Game over.
@dmartyn3809
5 жыл бұрын
Got them with Saga S preamp and Macbook Pro running thru LSX’s AUX connection with DAC = iFi nano iDSD BL.
@johnathanbellette2490
5 жыл бұрын
That makes it hard if you're including a vinyl setup... anyway those Adam's look much more living room friendly than the AX Series from Adam. Keen to hear them.
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