A 6,8 kg discbrakebike that rides really good. Sounds like the perfect bike to me.... If it was quite a bit less expensive.
@okantichrist
3 ай бұрын
And without the disc brakes 😂
@cristhianalonsobatistacast1114
3 ай бұрын
Well, if it was aero that would be the dream
@nickbu
26 күн бұрын
@@okantichrist literally the opposite of what the original comment said
@steveaguay
3 ай бұрын
I'm liking how you are doing these reviews. It feels transparent and honest. Using house wheels is so important. Would love to see more mid/budget in the future. A mid level bike you can upgrade is the sweet spot for almost everyone
@sempi8159
3 ай бұрын
Its not honest thats the problem with getting payed to make reviews....
@matthewbihlajama289
3 ай бұрын
Crazy over priced. Looks cool tho. Stick with the polaroid's for the board.
@panzer2181
3 ай бұрын
You guys really upped your game lately in your videos. Hats off. Love how you categorize the bikes (remortgage your house is spot on).
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255
3 ай бұрын
There are a lot of people who wouldn’t need to remortgage their house.
@echtogammut
3 ай бұрын
I'll be honest the price kind of surprised me. It just doesn't look like a £9000 bike. If you said £7000, I would have probably nodded, but I was honestly shocked at the price, because it doesn't have that extra panache needed for a hyperbike.
@ehrenfull
3 ай бұрын
I think it is the green color on the frame. If you check the gloss red one on their website it looks super expensive
@ariffau
3 ай бұрын
In a sea or black, white, red and blue bikes, I appreciate green. Well done, Wilier
@derfx89
3 ай бұрын
There's also the white, red and blue Groupama-FDJ variant, though :D
@ariffau
3 ай бұрын
@@derfx89 I swear those are BMW colours
@UKBROOKLYN
3 ай бұрын
The difference that wheels make to a ride is so huge that your decision to use a set of shop wheels to standardize test rides is sort of genius.. (not sure if that might be a tad hyperbolic...)
@squngy0
3 ай бұрын
House wheels add an interesting perspective, but I'm not sure how much practical use they are at least for high end bikes, since almost no one will be riding those bikes with such wheels in practice. It isn't as if the wheels aren't part of the bike and included in the price.
@emc3065
2 ай бұрын
@@squngy0if they were in-house proprietary wheels only used on the Willier, I think you'd be right. They're comparing the frameset more than anything, so changing the wheels makes perfect sense in my opinion.
@chris_gb_
3 ай бұрын
Very lightweight climbing specialist competitors would be: • Bianchi Specialissima • Orbea Orca • Factor O2 VAM I quite like the look of the Specialissima, but some people really hate it. Orca is nice and has a lot of lower tier build options, and a cheaper layup frame to bring the cost down further. O2 VAM price is madness, and somehow they managed to make the massive headtube look really ugly as well in the larger sizes. Maybe Canyon Ultimate could be added to the list? but I don't know if it's as light as these newer models. You could also try Yonex from Japan as well, not sure how you would buy and import one though, and they recommend a maximum rider weight of 70kg, but I've heard it said their carbon quality is second only to TIME.
@cdamian
3 ай бұрын
Extra points for not dropping the seat stays
@RubbishGimpy
3 ай бұрын
AstanaQazTeam have clearly chosen this 'long' bike to assit Cav over the finish line with the extra length.😛
@out_spocken
3 ай бұрын
'coz it'll be lighter' GOLD! #respect! lol
@CaptainChromaKey
3 ай бұрын
I have to agree with Jimmi. I expect more for 10000+ $ at this point. There is just nothing special about the bike. And NO cool green paint job is not worth that much money.
@michaelmechex
3 ай бұрын
Yeah. It looks extremely underwhelming even compared to any brand new bike in 2024, let alone anything in that price range. I'd much prefer that Van Rysel, much cooler bike for much less money
@rok1373
3 ай бұрын
I've just bought a second hand Wilier Cento10. Basically the same bike Francis had. Honestly I am loving it! It feels so bluming nice! My first 'expensive' bike. The quality feels so good. Lightweight doesn't bother me, I weigh 85kg. I just want something that looks 👌, and a red Wilier for me is on par with a Celeste bianchi.
@phil_d
3 ай бұрын
2:18 That's where you lost me!
@br5380
3 ай бұрын
What did you imagine a top-line bike decked with top-line components would cost?
@phil_d
3 ай бұрын
@@br5380 Ha'penny and a conker!
@denisantippa471
3 ай бұрын
Loving your approach to these reviews . You guys are nearly as cool as the mint green paint job on that Wilier. I would be interested to hear what you make of the Basso diamante. Keep up the excellent work and looking forward to the next episode
@carsonlewiscycling
3 ай бұрын
Great video, guys. To answer your question,I think this bike does fit within the Aethos market - I.e., a bike for those who’ve been riding a while, holding on to their rim brake rides, and waiting for a disc brake bike that maintained the lightweight ethos of yesteryear, but with all the modern developments in bike and component design. That said, to really compete with the Aethos market, I think Willier would have done better were it to aim for the (upper) mid-range price wise.
@TD_Geake
3 ай бұрын
How is bottom bracket stiffness for this bike? I've seen some criticism of Aethos for being flexy, and that's a potential drawback of ultralight frames.
@matthiaswuest7271
2 ай бұрын
Yep, reminds me of the recent orbea climbing bike in the same way. Interesting trend in the market, would be nicer to have those designs at a lower price point as well 😂 will be cool to see if any pros use it and how well it sells
@stevevanness4195
3 ай бұрын
I flaired my 38cm alloy bars because my knees hit the drops on steep climbs, that may be the reason for those…
@phil_d
3 ай бұрын
Or, look at Profile Design's DRV/GMR Gravel bar. Available from 36cm C-to-C, it doesn't flare at the hoods, just the drops so it's excellent as a 'road' bar too (the flare is great for sprinting). It has a modest rise of 9mm (and flat top), so if you're not slammed you can loose a 10mm spacer but get the same fit!
@cb6866
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Francis and Jimmi , looks nice from here too ... and all of my walls are cool !
@jamesbrickwood7414
3 ай бұрын
Personally I’d take the aethos with a traditional 27.2mm seat post and no faff bar and stem
@petergarner
3 ай бұрын
Oh, this was a fun video, guys. I mean, that bike is totally out of my league on so many levels, but I love it because... well, I'm with Francis on this one: the colour is amazing. I may be biased though. I own a custom Marinoni (which nevertheless cost me probably 1/3 the price of this bike) in a very similar colour. I bought it in 2019, and I still love it. So I guess that means I am also about 5 years behind the times? :)
@Pratalax
3 ай бұрын
TDF coming up.... climbing bike..... yeah, green's the one, that's perfect. ...though i'd hardly expect them to release a polka dot bike. Maybe Wilier measure outer to outer like Deda? as opposed to centre to centre. HAH, 5:38 ! they got their punctuation wrong too, so maybe it is very very precisely 1 euro? Love that you guys are comfortable to speak freely about these bikes, great little review. I'd sit that as a proper good too! and it is nice to have a fresh colour for a new bike too.
@ForeverDownByLaw
3 ай бұрын
Seems this would be a competitor to the Orbea Orca, which I would choose over this.
@PhantomMs1
3 ай бұрын
I'm interested in this company, as you can seem to get a varient of their previous Gravel bike Jena from Velo-build, the GF-003. Curious on their new frames and how they stacked up. Nice video!
@ncc1107
3 ай бұрын
That paint job looks mint!
@BikesKomsCRO
3 ай бұрын
Basically copied my S-Works Tarmac SL7 Snake Eyes paint job
@out_spocken
3 ай бұрын
love the pun...if you meant it lol
@ncc1107
3 ай бұрын
@@out_spocken 💯 he said the paint job was meh lol
@kevichan0501
3 ай бұрын
Go home dad. 😂
@MegaSixpac
3 ай бұрын
I would have one thanks. It is a “want” thanks Jimmy. It would be closest thing I have an an Italian racing whatever in my garage. It could replace the Centro 10 Air I have.
@Justin-iw7pl
3 ай бұрын
All you need is some wigs, shiny jackets and you guys could be the cycling version of "44 Teeth" For those who know 😂 The green displays sir cav attacking the sprints in the tdf like the hulk🤣 Keep up the stella work team.
@christiAnpure
3 ай бұрын
Love the look and the color, but not the price tag haha! But anyway not a bike for me going slow - but it is nice to look at.
@doctorscoot
3 ай бұрын
Yeah proper good sounds about right. Stick with the Polaroids for the wall!
@MaksymilianSleziak
3 ай бұрын
Which wheels you have used? Are they DT Swiss PRC 1100 Mont Chasseral?
@Lerainier
3 ай бұрын
Really like your videos and approach! Is there a video out where you mention what your test wheels are and what you like about them? Always looking for well-performing aluminium wheels. Cheers!
@voegelm
3 ай бұрын
That price tag is...heafty!
@jpk91
3 ай бұрын
Which DT Swiss wheels were you running in the test?
@Thomas-y3w
3 ай бұрын
had exactly the same problems with my Jena paint job, olive green one
@DaveM890
3 ай бұрын
What wheels are you using as standard on these tests?
@jeliano
3 ай бұрын
which DT Swiss Wheelset are you using here?
@damienbayle1632
3 ай бұрын
When will there be an Aethos with integrated cables?…🤩🤞🏻🤞🏻
@quintennn
3 ай бұрын
What wheels are on here? I didn't get that.
@JimmyJamesLDN
3 ай бұрын
Absolute rascal outfit being worn by Jimmy!
@dygbi
3 ай бұрын
That green is gorgeous.
@philellis386
3 ай бұрын
Have a look at a sarto venito sl disc, cheaper and it's a custom hand built frameset. 👍
@alexanderkristiansen4539
3 ай бұрын
Scott out willier in. Jimmi proper buffed up❤
@DoraeMew
3 ай бұрын
5:01 Wilier FINALLY make a real NARROW Handlebar!!!
@sherab2078
3 ай бұрын
I'm afraid my cool wall is way narrower and limited by prices. 😉(and it is reserved for gravel bikes in reality, but don't tell anyone 😉). Anyway, the bike looks great, and while I would like something more endurance/allroad-oriented for myself, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to ride such a bike. I'm getting old I guess... So what bikes are ridden now?
@GP.Anderson
2 ай бұрын
Love the channel. Two cents: Too many cool wall categories. I think I heard 6 total. Just my opinion though, keep up the great content.
@tomadevil1
3 ай бұрын
Finally a bike that has paint on it, not just a primer coat 😅
@andyand100
3 ай бұрын
Yes please ❤
@darylvargas5940
3 ай бұрын
turning on the lights was the best decision to make it lighter.
@litespud
3 ай бұрын
If I were in the market for a $$$$$ bike, this Wilier would be up there, fluorescent green and all 🦠
@ViktorNilsson-v3e
3 ай бұрын
Dream bike for alpine climbs and descents? (light + discs) Would probably buy something more aero and half a kg heavier anyway if i had the cash.
@darrenhill8503
3 ай бұрын
Love the content but would like to know has Jimmy always been an angry little fellow? Keep up the great work team.
@Hans-sb1ko
3 ай бұрын
A sub-7kg bike can probably be made with Aliexpress parts for less than 3000. My frame has 60k on it, a lot of big 2000m descends and bikepacking, has been dropped and crashed numerous times, cost me 250€ and only now shows some bubbling on the top tube. I somehow have headaches when I see such expensives bikes. Same thing with running shoes, most cost a fraction of the price the customer pays, just because of the branding...
@jesseschenendorf2896
3 ай бұрын
I do not understand the flair of the drops for gravel bikes for technical sections as I am pretty sure that I want my hands on the brake levers if I am doing technical terrain and the flair does not seem to be all that pronounced at that part for most bars....
@Floemo
3 ай бұрын
I want a review of your pink Time!
@dcv9460
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂13,400 Euros! For that color! NO EFFIN WAY!!! 😂😂😂
@topi3146
3 ай бұрын
Lets go to work for 3 months to be barely able to afford that.
@luisfernandogalich6198
3 ай бұрын
I want to know your thoughts on the winspace bikes
@scottboepple7903
Ай бұрын
for climbing ill keep my s works sl3 with 50mm deep roval tubs ready to ride with pedals that is and garmin at 6.1 kilo....13.6 lbs...campy super record mech.... and could be made lighter for sure but horrible for maintaing speed on the flats
@MIDO1080p
3 ай бұрын
Proper good it is
@acidarion
3 ай бұрын
Stick to the Polaroids, it fits the vibe. Fujifilm has a digital Polaroid camera that can print photos from other sources.
@Gufolicious
3 ай бұрын
I had the wilier zero slr and for that pricepoint i was very unhappy with it. It felt a bit like a wet noodle especially out of the saddle. Now im riding the sl8 and it is about the same weight but without this wet noodle feeling.
@smv-eu5vt
3 ай бұрын
Exactly my experience with the 0slr… I discovered how flexy it was after I moved to a modern all round race bike, Merica Scultura that is. Even the 0SL was stiffer and more responsive at half the price and with average wheels. Total waist of money..
@Natuh21
3 ай бұрын
Green bike, you got my attention and my money lol
@deadpool8340
3 ай бұрын
Heavy Price !!!
@Lwmuth
3 ай бұрын
If you change wheels, you should use the same tires, too
@mikemihaylov8239
3 ай бұрын
What are the house wheels and tires? I'm looking to upgrade my topstone to a better set without spending crazy money
@AndyMoreno555
3 ай бұрын
I have the same question, please spec up the house wheels?
@paulhartzer10
3 ай бұрын
Direkt competitor to the factor o2 vam, canyon ultimate, scott addict
@kloppsliverpudlians88
3 ай бұрын
I would still get the Scott Addict RC pro with Dura Ace and save a few grand
@ranxxerox6407
3 ай бұрын
You could really Hulk Smash those hills with that mean green cycling machine 😊 Although the price mark will make me angry,. And you don’t wanna make me angry!😡 😅 I would rather have a Pinarello
@quentendeclercq4792
3 ай бұрын
ypu should make a video where you rank viewer's bikes.
@Aussie_stu
3 ай бұрын
The fact that Francis and Jimmi disagree on the intangible aspect of this bike, proves that those opinions don't belong in reviews. Impressions are so personal and mostly irrational and biases unrelated to the actual ride quality can play a huge part in those Impressions
@robenever1
3 ай бұрын
The 2021 specialissima is probably the closest competition to this. At half the price.
@Afrikakorps68
3 ай бұрын
Min.1:38...brilliant 😂😂
@LordTechnopants
3 ай бұрын
I had a green bike once, but not pricey. Kinda miss it.
@martindoonan198
3 ай бұрын
Wilier make a super light bike for climbing and then have to add 0.5kg of paint to make it UCI compliant 😊
@shepshape2585
3 ай бұрын
A $14,000 bike doesn't sit anywhere on my wall, unless I make a category called "Ridiculously Overpriced". I can build a bike for less than $3,000 that will be everything I ever need, and that's probably more than I would actually spend. Carbon frame, 105 mechanical group set, disc brakes, and Bob's your Uncle.
@frostytf2
3 ай бұрын
Given the price I’ve just paid for a super light aero bike from AliExpress, I don’t know if I’ll ever pay for a name brand bike again. These things are way too expensive, and for what?
@gmivisualsjason3729
3 ай бұрын
What did you buy?
@frostytf2
3 ай бұрын
@@gmivisualsjason3729 I’m more talking about bikes generally. Sava has some good value bikes. The one I purchased was from BXT.
@MTBScotland
3 ай бұрын
not dark enough for the hulk
@michaelhayward7572
3 ай бұрын
Looks a helluva liot better than that Pinarellothingie..
@hobbitilius
3 ай бұрын
I always find it wild that there are bikes with prices like this that still have some objective problems. This is 'has to be absolutely perfect'-money.
@pieterbauwens5607
3 ай бұрын
And its farr from.
@brokenribs1530
3 ай бұрын
Does Jimmy actually like any bikes?
@patrickwong4824
3 ай бұрын
Yes, at 6.8 kg this latest and greatest Wilier. Still, if you going to show a Wilier, why not the Superleggera. It is much interesting.
@ginomordocco4710
3 ай бұрын
The black line along the downtube kills it for me.
@kevinlyon9501
3 ай бұрын
Nice but not 12k nice, maybe you should have Jimmi's Cool Wall and Francis Cool Wall to save arguments.
@johnrodgers6049
3 ай бұрын
Like the color. Don’t like the black accent stripes, especially up front on the downtube, looks like external cables from far away. Not clean looking. Also, personally, I don’t like painted handle bars and/or stem. Keep them black for me.
@andreemurray7039
3 ай бұрын
Nice bike but not a fan of 1 piece handlebars no adjustment
@draugmithrin
3 ай бұрын
Ha! My first thought was it looks cheap, wrong! Who the hell buys them?
@mej6519
3 ай бұрын
Ouchy price. I can get an aprillia rs 250 for that, with cash spare for the restoration.
@curtvaughan2836
3 ай бұрын
Where this bike sits for me: unobtainable. Simply can't afford a $15K bicycle. Thanks for the review, though.
@Xarx42
2 ай бұрын
Ah I think it's simply unnecessary to get such a bike. I mean there are enough decent bike brands with climbing bikes which cost way less.
@sleepysamk1400
Ай бұрын
£9k 🤪🤪. I’ll buy a car instead
@blackhawk65589
3 ай бұрын
$12k+ (cries in peasant Trek tears)
@totallynotraging
3 ай бұрын
These rotors are way too small for normal people. weight weenie-ing over a bike's rotors that's meant to be ridden down long alpine descents is really silly, going 160 on the back and 180 front wouldn't add a lot and would help stave off pad glazing to no end
@JFomo
3 ай бұрын
All the decals on the bike make it look like something from 2012. Can't even tell it's new. Try again Wilier.
@robertcatuara5118
3 ай бұрын
It doesn't feel fast. Sir Cavendish would disagree. Hopefully.
@whynotride327
3 ай бұрын
That price is beyond stupid. WTH buys stuff like this??
@out_spocken
3 ай бұрын
People with beyond stupid wages! Which seemingly, there are a lot of in a world full with cost of living crisis's.
@whynotride327
3 ай бұрын
@@out_spocken Well, that rules out everyone I know. I suppose I could afford to get one if I wanted but I would then have to question my own sanity. As much as I love to ride, I could get something with a motor in the frame rails for LOT less money.
@out_spocken
3 ай бұрын
@@whynotride327 Hear ya. I could travel to europe from Australia and spend half a year riding the alpes for that sort of money. But you asked who buys this stuff...people that can afford it. I can't justify $30 tpu tubes, or $100 tyres...not to say they aren't worth it for people that have a higher income than me. I don't even buy coffee's on group rides because I can't afford them and it's not impoirtant to my cycling....but for others it doesn't even register as a spend.
@bicikircho
3 ай бұрын
two weeks ago: "specialized sl8 is a nonsense, so expensive, long, it's a racer's bike with flashy paintwork, nobody needs it, we hate it." today: "oh, this wilier is awesome, so long, so expensive, with a crappy paint, we love it, everybody should buy one"...
@LucLev
2 ай бұрын
I like it but not that colour!
@dan44zzt231
3 ай бұрын
Will Jimmi love a test bike again after riding the Pinarello?
@ditto1958
3 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s just me, but when bicycle prices get up in motorcycle territory I’d be buying a motorcycle or a nice used car instead of the bike.
@lcdc27
3 ай бұрын
Who buys these bikes? 🤯 An industry complaining about slow sales yet prices keep going up and the second hand market is a bust!
@asambi69
3 ай бұрын
Can I....er....Borrow...that bike for a few weeks?....hehe.
@petersouthernboy6327
3 ай бұрын
Queue up the price comments. Wilier sells a Shimano mechanical 11 speed road bike for $2K for you guys.
@paulgrimshaw8334
3 ай бұрын
Except that isn’t the bike being reviewed, is it?
@petersouthernboy6327
3 ай бұрын
@@paulgrimshaw8334 Doesn’t stop the whiners from chirping in the comments section, now does it?
@paulgrimshaw8334
3 ай бұрын
@@petersouthernboy6327 The comments are on the bike being tested. So 100% inbounds. And critiques about $12k bikes aren’t whining, though I can understand corporate shills thinking they may be.
@JohannesCycling
3 ай бұрын
"You probably need to spend an other 800 € for these handlebars" - Greedflation hits → 1000 € 😄 💁♂For someone who's willing to spend this amount of cash on a bike it won't change the world anyway.
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