Wasn’t there a heart to heart between Melia and Sharla in the last chapter, where Melia just straight up says that she’s gonna move on from Shulk?
@GiancarloE
4 жыл бұрын
It's between Melia and Sharla if I'm not wrong
@Rod-sm1sk
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, in Prison island
@mrpyrostorm3165
4 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments to say just this.
@mariokarter13
4 жыл бұрын
"It's bad writing for Melia to not be hung up on this dude that's practically married to another woman."
@RyuNoZero
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrpyrostorm3165 me2 xD the moment I read this Heart2Heart I felt like so much for those canonical MeliaxShulk fans xD"
@Wlightning25
4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t beaten future connected yet so I can’t comment on it yet but it’s fun to hear what you think of it and see if I will share the same opinion when I do beat it
@QueenOokamini
2 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing more I ship in Xenoblade than Shulk and Melia, but even I honestly can’t find anything to complain about. Like stuff happens, Shulk had Fiora way before he met Melia. It sucks but like, oh well.
@cowboybarbaryn1302
6 ай бұрын
Also like her crush on shulk was one of the worst plot points in the base game why are people mad it’s gone?
@RobMedellin
2 жыл бұрын
If I were shulk and my wife were Fiora, she would not had let me go on that trip with a girl as pretty/good catch as Melia, even if they were friends, Fiora would had come like why wouldn't she? But OK. Don't mind me.
@DjPon9173
4 жыл бұрын
Melia is about 18? 5:19 but melia is 88 years old what are u talking about.
@DiddyKingLP
4 жыл бұрын
I hate people who think Melias character revolves around her early crush on Shulk. Like damn let it go, the girl has so much more to herself. Thanks for the video Luxin.
@Diamoondust
4 жыл бұрын
ikr
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaw the shipers they like to ruin everything these days ... Look i myself like to ship character together... IN MY HEAD me to i prefer Melia over Fiorung and wen i almost tought that fiorung woud die before the end " her body " i seriously tough of Shulk and Melia ending together ... But with the last heart to heart scene on prison island with Melia and Karna wen Melia give up on Shulk and she know Fiorung is the one Shulk love i was sad but i was not mad XD i accepted it ... Her entire familly and peaple died excuse her if romance is not her focus >< also in Xenoblade 2 i prefer Niyah over Homura or hikari but i was not mad .._ in zelda BOTW i prefer mipha over zelda even if she die even before the game start .._ i am used to friend zoning by now XD even if i find Fiorung Boring and is kinda the Asuna of xenoblade ... She the default waifu to me that it lol ... Xenoblade is not really a true RPG since you dont get to role play ... Those who are mad about their shiping not being canon is the same person who atack manga author over shiping ... COUGH my hero acadedemia COUGH tokyo ghoul
@DiddyKingLP
3 жыл бұрын
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905 the heart to heart on prison island was really nice yeah, Melia grew over Shulk. But i dont think it has been in the spotlight enough :o
@sunflowers280
3 жыл бұрын
I know. Like I ship Shulk and Melia but I don’t go on and one about just that when it comes to Melias character. She’s quickly become one of my most favourite characters to date because she is so interesting and has an important role. I mainly ship Shulk and Fiora because well that’s cannon, but I also ship Shulk and Melia just because it looks cute.
@mattflub
Жыл бұрын
@@DiddyKingLP no one's gonna grow melia and Sharla affinity . I stopped using sharla once dunban joined the party.
@Josh-fw4po
4 жыл бұрын
I was actually really happy they showed Melia interacting with Shulk as a close friend and not a love interest. It showed that Melia had moved on like she said she was going to do which is just good character progression.
@DiddyKingLP
4 жыл бұрын
I know right! im so happy when this happened.
@TheOneTrueOfficialLordGod
4 жыл бұрын
The one thing I didn't like about FC: We didn't get more Reyn Time.
@the-pezinator
3 жыл бұрын
What I really hate is that your level doesn't carry over from the main game.
@xxblacktear
3 жыл бұрын
I was actually really sad about that hahaha
@tylercoon1791
3 жыл бұрын
Now it’s Melia time
@rileyross6621
3 жыл бұрын
Can't have a rainbow without reyn baby
@themonkeyman2910
2 жыл бұрын
Whair Reyn time?
@GURGLEGUY12345
4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually _glad_ her crush on Shulk was never brought up.
@xenorayy
4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a person complaining that there was no point in FC existing if it doesn't have romance between Melia and Shulk and my response was the following: _Shulk is there to represent the game as the main character, having her on her own wouldn't make that much sense, you could say he's there for emotional support. FC isn't his story, his story is done, Melia's isn't. The extra story revolves around her and the future of the High Entia. There is no romance, it's not even fan service, just an epilogue to Melia's arc and maybe a possible connection to future games to come._ Melia herself told Sharla in the main game that she gave up on Shulk, I'm sure by the time FC takes place she sees him as a very dear friend, she loves him but not in a romantic way. There is so much more to Melia's character than her crush on Shulk I don't get how people criticize the epilogue on this aspect
@Chronoflation
4 жыл бұрын
This is why Luxin is pretty much the only aspect of the Xenoblade community that I interact with. So much attention given to fantasizing about things that are explicitly shown to be non-factors in the story. That and they all call me a fake fan because I don't like Xenonlade 2 and would've preferred a different art style for the remake. It's like if you don't fangirl over every aspect and come up with your own headcanon stories you get excised from the group
@xenorayy
4 жыл бұрын
@@Chronoflation I personally like the sequel but I don't get why people attack those who don't. It's like people get criticized for *having opinions*
@Chronoflation
4 жыл бұрын
@@xenorayy I know, it's crazy. I just felt like I was running a series of wild goose chases over and over throughout the game and didn't like the battle system that much cause I felt like I had no control over my defensive stats and that didn't click with me. Also I hate Rex. I get why other people like it, it just didn't suit me
@yaboiderrick
4 жыл бұрын
@@Chronoflation You see, it's a two way problem. You see the same thing loving 2 and not getting 1. Then it feels like you constantly risk getting shot down for saying anything remotely negative about 1. I don't think I've ever had a very civil discourse about each games' boons and banes. Makes it a little difficult to properly make up your mind.
@Chronoflation
4 жыл бұрын
@@yaboiderrick Yeah, I agree. And I think it gets worse from Nintendo-tubers a lot of the time cause they tend to pick sides and then promote every change that game made to the series as the obvious and most optimal decision. Even the more positive people like Rogers Base do stuff like that. His Fire Emblem coverage made me stop listening to him cause the second he saw the sales for Fates he started going off everywhere on how Nintendo needs to make the entire series based around fanservice and essentially an anime tits game (did the same with Zelda: BotW after seeing Zelda, from what I could tell). I saw stuff like that everywhere a few years back and it totally drove me out of Nintendo communities. Toxic as all get out, like a battle of puritans vs people who'd sell their souls if it meant higher sales numbers
@obamaorb7426
4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a short chapter to flesh out Melia more and give her arc a more satisfying conclusion from Future Connected, so I got what I wanted out of it, more would've been nice, but at the end of the day it's still additional content for my favourite game that they didn't even have to add, so I won't complain about it.
@thefiresworddragon927
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's kind of one of those things where, because it didn't need to be done, it basically is extra for no more cost.
@obamaorb7426
3 жыл бұрын
@Krish Shah SS HD was a good remaster imo, overpriced as hell but it sorted everything I didn't like about the original
@YungTimeWeaver
4 жыл бұрын
She concedes to Fiora in the heart to hearts of the main game anyway
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaw the shipers they like to ruin everything these days ... Look i myself like to ship character together... IN MY HEAD me to i prefer Melia over Fiorung and wen i almost tought that fiorung woud die before the end " her body " i seriously tough of Shulk and Melia ending together ... But with the last heart to heart scene on prison island with Melia and Karna wen Melia give up on Shulk and she know Fiorung is the one Shulk love i was sad but i was not mad XD i accepted it ... Her entire familly and peaple died excuse her if romance is not her focus >< also in Xenoblade 2 i prefer Niyah over Homura or hikari but i was not mad .._ in zelda BOTW i prefer mipha over zelda even if she die even before the game start .._ i am used to friend zoning by now XD even if i find Fiorung Boring and is kinda the Asuna of xenoblade ... She the default waifu to me that it lol ... Xenoblade is not really a true RPG since you dont get to role play ... Those who are mad about their shiping not being canon is the same person who atack manga author over shiping ... COUGH my hero acadedemia COUGH tokyo ghoul
@nothanks7063
3 жыл бұрын
I personally thimk Melia is better for Shulk precisely because of this, Melia is just a better person all around, Fiora I feel is more obsessed than in love with Shulk, and she's mighty selfish, not only does she never even so much as attempt to connect with anyone else in the party but she actively sabotages Shulk's interactions with others so he pays more attention to her, which becomes even more apparent after Mechonis Core when Sharla just saw Gadolt die, Melia just lost both Kallian and the entirety of Alcamoth and Vanea's brother is also bout to die but it is them who have to go out of their way to cheer Fiora up because Shulk is too busy talking to Alvis to be with her at every fucking second. But precisely because of that I don't mind that Melia concedes, she's super mature and has a lot of other things in her plate, she is the new empress and has to save the people of Gran Dell, she has to repair her strained relationship with her sister and also help the new Homs colony get off the ground, Melia is such a well-rounded character that her not being the love interest doesn't damage her in the slightest.
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
3 жыл бұрын
Hell she concedes as early as colony 6
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
@@nothanks7063 Melia's one-sided crush on Shulk was a filler subplot that added nothing to the story and would make no difference if it was removed. Though based on your comment you seem pretty salty, delusional, and in denial of that fact anyway. Ah well.
@drewhaynes1874
3 жыл бұрын
@@ltb1345 ahhh heres where ship wars get annoying when insults to others happen because they feel their ship is threatened or insulted. Atleast its not as bad as the zelda fanbase and zelinkers Where they bash your ship as being noncanon but forget zelink isnt canon either but i digress
@fel_7264
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe that if you combine Melia’s and Kino’s designs, you get Finch. There is no joke
@marcoasturias8520
4 жыл бұрын
She´s female, it´s obvious that her entire character arc has to circle around a romantic relationship; if not, bad writting. *S A R C A S M*
@fatalerror6062
4 жыл бұрын
Marco Asturias press x to doubt (nvm I’m blind)
@Chronoflation
4 жыл бұрын
She literally has a heart to heart with Sharla during the main game where she gets over her crush on Shulk once she sees Shulk with Fiora.
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaw the shipers they like to ruin everything these days ... Look i myself like to ship character together... IN MY HEAD me to i prefer Melia over Fiorung and wen i almost tought that fiorung woud die before the end " her body " i seriously tough of Shulk and Melia ending together ... But with the last heart to heart scene on prison island with Melia and Karna wen Melia give up on Shulk and she know Fiorung is the one Shulk love i was sad but i was not mad XD i accepted it ... Her entire familly and peaple died excuse her if romance is not her focus >< also in Xenoblade 2 i prefer Niyah over Homura or hikari but i was not mad .._ in zelda BOTW i prefer mipha over zelda even if she die even before the game start .._ i am used to friend zoning by now XD even if i find Fiorung Boring and is kinda the Asuna of xenoblade ... She the default waifu to me that it lol ... Xenoblade is not really a true RPG since you dont get to role play ... Those who are mad about their shiping not being canon is the same person who atack manga author over shiping ... COUGH my hero acadedemia COUGH tokyo ghoul
@KB-di1xv
3 жыл бұрын
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905Stop. Please.
@LuisRPG8
4 жыл бұрын
I do believe that while High Entia do mature mentally slower than homs, it isn't by much and it certainly isn't necesarily matched with their bodies aging slower, for example, Teelan is a child, but he's also in his 40's and is the scientist leading the Telethia Investigation
@Excalibur5k
4 жыл бұрын
I think teelan is probably just a rare wunderkind, but i suppose living that long, high entia kids mature faster due to experiencing more years. Though if theyre anything like humans, their brains are still developing until they reach the high entia equivalent of 25.
@LuisRPG8
4 жыл бұрын
I do think that's the case too, he still hasn't clearly got to the mental maturity of an adult but still has around 40 years of experience and stuff, that's why it's kinda weird how it works (and Teelan is preety much a genious regardless so I do get your point)
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
3 жыл бұрын
Homs are human's High entia are elves See them like that .... Or if you are a zelda shiper Hylian are human's Zora's are elves
@keeysOST
4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure these people are the type to only play a game to ship characters or date them, then proceed to ignore the story and character development. It really devalues Melia's great character when all she is is the "I have a crush on Shulk" character.
@BeanoNintendo
4 жыл бұрын
Besides, Melia belongs with Juju anyway
@nyxmiloq4167
4 жыл бұрын
@@BeanoNintendo Oh, now I get the "poor Melia"
@angelusinnocentius622
3 жыл бұрын
You cant just have one of the main female characters not be with someone by the end of the game -_- what makes Fiora deserve a boyfriend and not Melia?
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaw the shipers they like to ruin everything these days ... Look i myself like to ship character together... IN MY HEAD me to i prefer Melia over Fiorung and wen i almost tought that fiorung woud die before the end " her body " i seriously tough of Shulk and Melia ending together ... But with the last heart to heart scene on prison island with Melia and Karna wen Melia give up on Shulk and she know Fiorung is the one Shulk love i was sad but i was not mad XD i accepted it ... Her entire familly and peaple died excuse her if romance is not her focus >< also in Xenoblade 2 i prefer Niyah over Homura or hikari but i was not mad .._ in zelda BOTW i prefer mipha over zelda even if she die even before the game start .._ i am used to friend zoning by now XD even if i find Fiorung Boring and is kinda the Asuna of xenoblade ... She the default waifu to me that it lol ... Xenoblade is not really a true RPG since you dont get to role play ... Those who are mad about their shiping not being canon is the same person who atack manga author over shiping ... COUGH my hero acadedemia COUGH tokyo ghoul
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
3 жыл бұрын
@@angelusinnocentius622 they is so many Malia and dunban fan art .... Mostly lewd one
@tirzahroseroot
4 жыл бұрын
My personal head canon is that Melia gave up her feelings because she wanted Fiora to be happy as they had become friends during the events of the first game.
@GiancarloE
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@SonicMaster211
4 жыл бұрын
Actually it was probably due to Shulk, I even have evidence to it... But whatever,
@Phazon8058MS
4 жыл бұрын
There's literally a heart to heart in the game where Melia says exactly that.
@MinorCirrus
4 жыл бұрын
My personal head cannon is that she stopped pursuing Shulk in order to pursue both Shulk and Fiora.
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
3 жыл бұрын
@@MinorCirrus we all know Malia real crush is dunban =P
@domicraft6341
4 жыл бұрын
It was said often enough that we have a h2h and also that Shulk has literally jumped off a titan to save his gf. If anything, thanks to romantic scenes between him and Melia, Shulk would be an idiot to cheat on Fiora. Of course Melia could've acted like "Uhm... Ah... Y-yes!" But that is not how Melia works as a character The way Melia expresses her emotions in the Definitive Edition also shows that they're trying to give her a more adult and serious look then they've been possible in the original. And that is what her character is about. Melia is not your normal "Protagonist-Love-Interest-Shy-Girl-whatever." She is a strong character. Very strong. One of the reasons why Monolith Soft made the story about FC focused on Melia was because they we're sorry for her. Making her sad or desperate because she knows that she and Shulk will never be a couple would just be another unessecary kick while she is on the ground. And no matter what - she always stand up and moved forward as soon as possible. After the journey she stayed friends with Shulk and Fiora and that's it. Also Highentia have a different sight of things then homs/humans, not at last because of their longer lifespan.
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Really makes the filler crush subplot all the more annoying.
@aegisxiii2384
4 жыл бұрын
Just finished the game for the first time. Never played any Xenoblade game before. I knew after I defeated the final boss that I would have to say goodbye to this world. And I was sad. But the epilogue allowed me to say goodbye properly with a satisfying conclusion. I liked it a lot. We never get to see how worlds get reconstructed after big battles and the theme of learning to forgive is more actual than never. Great experience. I want more epilogues in my games
@aegisxiii2384
4 жыл бұрын
And now I finished Xenoblade 2. I feel sad and empty now.
@majinya6199
2 жыл бұрын
@@aegisxiii2384 excited for xb3?
@aegisxiii2384
2 жыл бұрын
@@majinya6199 More than ever! 😁
@SonicMaster211
4 жыл бұрын
While I think you covered it great, here is my opinions... Melia DOES shows her romantic feelings towards Shulk twice in FC. They are very subtle, but here they are: 1. Before Kino yells and after they talk about what happens, there is a moment where Melia just looks at Shulk and smiles at him. Now this could mean nothing, but that is a detail. 2. There is a QM where she say something among the lines of "you keep bringing me up when I am down" could also involve romantic feelings. Now, both of these could mean nothing, but I also want to point out... She just has a control over her feelings of Shulk. Take me for a example, I loved this girl at school but after awhile I needed to build up a wall where my feeling for her wouldn't be obvious anymore. I still love her, but I am not furiously showing it. That could be what Melia has done with Shulk. Either way, Melia isn't like Fiora and define by her crush on Shulk, Melia is more then that.
@Laurmachi
4 жыл бұрын
Rip Fiora.
@mercifulwarrior24
4 жыл бұрын
Well said. This was the impression I got, as well, playing through FC. I personally am happy the writers chose to show Shulk and Melia as good friends even after some time had passed and even though Melia still seems to harbor some feelings toward Shulk. It shows how much Melia has grown as a person in that she is willing to be friends with her crush and not pursue her own feelings for the sake of her friends' happiness. That's real growth right there!
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
Well there's also the fact that Melia's crush on Shulk was a filler subplot that would make no difference if it was removed, which FC proves.
@oneish7454
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't Melia explicitly told Sharla she was giving up on Shulk during a heart to heart?
@33link333
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, the H2H was on Prison Island.
@shino_9422
4 жыл бұрын
people that use that as criticism to me it seems like they are trying to apply common anime tropes to the deep characters in this game
@anonymouss1270
4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t melia say to sharla “I’ve decided to give up on shulk”?
@ASquared544
3 жыл бұрын
I'm personally in LOVE with Future Connected.
@pikagammerpluspizza7478
4 жыл бұрын
One thing I'll always Criticize FC for was not giving us a playable Tyrea that just reused Dunband and Hom Fiora's Moves. Was waiting the whole game for it, got really excited once I saw the final Heart to Heart requirements and ultimately let down once I realized that I just beat the final boss without her showing up. Another smaller thing that I understand why it didn't happen for balancing the team, but kind of surprised that you didn't get to unlock Nene and Kino as guest characters, that didn't impact on the story but just as extra playable characters.
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Tyrea was the perfect "final party member" character for FC, yet she never became playable!
@dankdilly
2 жыл бұрын
@@ltb1345 it would have been cool but I would have probably just kept using Melia and the nopons. It was odd there were quiet moments with Ty even though she wasn't a playable though.
@lpfan4491
4 жыл бұрын
"If she experiences grief 5 times slower too". Oof, this hits diffrent considering what happens in her life. I hope that is not the case.
@MrMoustache144
4 жыл бұрын
Future connected is about Melia accepting her trauma and taking her place as the empress of the High Entia I do wish they gave us a bit more of foreshadowing toward what we can expect the future of the series to be since it is called future connected. However when I think of Melia I think Melia is complex she can be prideful,stubborn,caring, and strong she's not so one note as the only thing she had going was her crush on Shulk.
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
3 жыл бұрын
*when you are more bothered by how much by the new villian's "second in command" more than anything in the actual game* Honestly it passes me off more than anything that this guy tried to pull a Dickson on _melia,_ an anti-social princess who _killed_ a giant pulling the same thing as her friend, who has already been groomed by her father and smart enough to know your a bad guy _in the first five minutes of your introduction._
@MinorCirrus
4 жыл бұрын
She could very much have found someone else that helps her move on from her crush on Shulk. I mean with her status, her skill, her wits and her appearance, I'm pretty confident she'd find someone in less than a week.
@hheecckk526
4 жыл бұрын
melia didnt really want to look for romance since she considered leading her people to be a much higher priority and that is probably what took all of her time
@SpanishIvI
4 жыл бұрын
Melia explicitly says in a Heart-to-Heart between her and Sharla that she's gonna move on from Shulk.
@zaganzz
4 жыл бұрын
Personally I didn't get to FC but honestly Melia to me had a lot more to her that her romantic feelings for someone. To me as of how far I got in main game she was learning to grow as a character. From having gone from being a princess to having to rule a whole kingdom basically and grieving of her father's death. I think she is earnest about what she thinks is right and wrong.
@tearzofthefallen6586
4 жыл бұрын
This is the first thing about Future Connected I've watched. My only criticism is how quickly the ending scene wrapped up. I always thought the fandom saw this as hints to what happened with Galea. To me, it seems that she was flung into yet another universe that isn't connected to the two in XC1 and XC2 because a trinity Processor wasn't present there. In her attempts to get back to her origin universe she somehow caused this disturbance. I don't think she'll look that way, but the parallels here were the only thing that screamed out to me. But hey, its whatevs.
@tristanneal9552
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn’t even notice tbh, and I’m a big Melia x Shulk person. I think it was handled subtly and showed Melia as mature (and not just “the other woman”...). I think the only thing I wish I got to see was some acknowledgement from Shulk, and maybe a silent understanding not to let it affect their relationship.
@Scerttle
4 жыл бұрын
To answer the monologue at the start of the video, FC exceeded my expectations. But I thought it was going to be tinier still than it was. I expected it to be over in maybe 2 hours but I managed to wring 12 out of it.
@xeno6773
3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know where else to put this I just thought it was interesting and deserved saying The chamber at the very bottom of the Nerthis Necropolis sure does look an *awful lot* like the Land of Challenge in 1, doesn’t it?
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
The map was reused, I think.
@ArveEriksson
4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand that criticism either... but I had more fun playing Future Connected than the base game. Woo!
@vwabi
4 жыл бұрын
"That doesn't mean you can't not have been dissapointed by it" - sentences you need 200IQ to understand
@snurt256
4 жыл бұрын
I just thought it was strange we didn't see more development between Shulk and Fiora (largely due to there not being Fiora in the side story). Not a criticism I have and I still think Future Connected is great, but it would've been a nice extra addition.
@TheObbster
4 жыл бұрын
Her growth at the end of the game is literally about learning to let Shulk be happy and have no hard feelings.
@echoesofthevoice9570
3 жыл бұрын
Future Connected was fine, but something I found very distracting was the voice actor they got for Melia. She was pretty flat in some of her deliveries. This on its own would've been bearable, but after listening to Melia's voice actor in the original game for so long, It was difficult to ignore. Also, just an aside, I heard another criticism that left me scratching my head. Someone once said that Nene was extremely annoying. This gave me pause because I always found Nene to be completely adorable. In fact, she'd easily make my list of top ten cutest characters in video games. I mean, yeah, it's an opinion, but I'm left wondering how anyone could think that.
@TM521HS
3 жыл бұрын
They brought back melias og voice actor. Also I thought she got better as the epilogue went on
@echoesofthevoice9570
3 жыл бұрын
@@TM521HS Wait, that was her? Strange. She was great in the original game, but she didn't sound nearly as invested in FC.
@TM521HS
3 жыл бұрын
@@echoesofthevoice9570 it's been over 10 years since the first game so her voice changed abit in that time
@dankdilly
2 жыл бұрын
@@TM521HS she just got rusty I guess lol
@badlatency9979
4 жыл бұрын
I think the Gnosis, and that was absolutely a Gnosis, is a pretty huge hint as to the future simply due to implications of there being Gnosis. As for Melia's feelings, I think that is far too complicated for the criticism to be too valid.
@Crichi404
4 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be good
@GiancarloE
4 жыл бұрын
IMO the main reason Melia's given up on Shulk is the friendshiep she ended up developing with Fiora during the main game
@SilentVinyl
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Riki's Children was nice.
@dankdilly
2 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish the ponspectors were more of Riki's children instead lol
@janaguirre4756
4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was okay, for me it was like I get to play this game one more time. YES
@twincherries6698
2 жыл бұрын
"There wasn't enough direct or blatant hints to the Future :(" "I guess gnosis is in xenoblade now. This isn't important at all. It being the final boss is completely insignificant" The xenoblade community sure is full of geniuses
@delaneyelekes8660
4 жыл бұрын
Just finished Future Connected, and I'm a little surprised that people might not like it. Granted, the story wasn't anything THAT interesting, I'll admit, but considering it's just a small epilogue tacked onto the main game of an already really well made remake, I don't think that's a problem. The best part was easily the fact you got new characters, some nice new gameplay, and the entirety of the Bionis's shoulder to explore! The story was just there to flesh Melia out a bit more and give her character arc a bit more of a proper end while showing you around the new location. Which I liked! And Kino and Nene are adorable, change my mind.
@sombrego2260
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Melia's attraction to Shulk is very short. As soon as she is confronted to Seven being there she realizes nothing will happen between her and Shulk and moves on. Her discussion with Seven outside of Junks before the end of the game clearly shows it. She is basically giving her blessing to Seven and friendzoning the whole situation. And yes it makes sense for her to not mention it or show it at all a full year after the end of the game since Seven and Shulk have been spending a lot more time together so there's even more reasons for her to move on.
@monadoboy9639
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I loved future connected and the point wasn't supposed to be some romance between Shulk and melia to me it was more about melia finding her home and Shulk helping her because he does still care about Shulk
@xand9554
3 жыл бұрын
I'm like most people here that is not bothered by Melia's feelings for Shulk. But Fog King man... So much build up and then we got virtually nothing
@kingjonny394
4 жыл бұрын
Every game that comes out nowadays peoples expectations get crazy out of hand, they make up a dream scenario they want to see and expect it to be like that with no evidence, and then proceed to be angry and disappointed when it comes out
@NaomiAlicia4242564
4 жыл бұрын
The very thing I'm mad about is the "no answer" about what are the shadow monsters/king, where does the rift go/come from, why are telessia effective against the rift; how does melia gets to summon 4-5 elements in cutscenes but still 3 in game... And rikis daughter immense growth sprout and combat training at the same time makes no sense even in 18 months XD
@hheecckk526
4 жыл бұрын
the fog king and how the rift works is most likely the hint for what we are getting for a possible 3 melia using multiple elements is more so cutscene powers since shulk can combo monado arts in cutscenes like where he uses speed then uses enchant within a very short time of each other which shouldnt be possible because its a talent art and needs to charge up the nopon grow really fast and they vary in size for no real reason since we dont know if nopon have different species within their race. some are big and fat and others are tiny and both can be adults and varying color.
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I like Melia, but I'm not one of her super-fans, so the thing I was most excited for from Future Connected was new lore, which I didn't get. I kept waiting for a revelation about the Fog King and the rifts, yet there was none.
@russellrahman4015
3 жыл бұрын
I hate it cause it ended
@Bonette_qtpi
5 ай бұрын
I still feel like the vibes were there, like the dialogues and even mood, the pasing and voice direction made me think they were some feelings from melia to shulk. You can still like a lot someone but be chill about it, and thats the vibe i felt from melia, she likes shulk but see him as a friend and thats the truly inportant bond they have between each other. Eunie is their daughter tho
@wwld9823
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus people are still harping aboutm melia after so many years, give it a rest
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
These shippers are rabid, they never let these things go.
@Kuhazan
3 жыл бұрын
people actually thought that there should be some feelings of that sort left over?
@Ultimabuster92
4 жыл бұрын
I think, there are two types of people. Some people want realism in their games, something they can relate to. And some want things to dream about, a perfect, happy ending for their favourite characters. Melia moving on from loving Shulk is realistic, mature and it happens quite often in real life. But that's not what we, so people like me, want to see. We hoped for a better conclusion and didn't get it and if you think about it, we are not even to blame for that, as the main game pushed that ship onto us in the first place. From the moment Melia was first introduced it was made very clear that she has a very special relationship with Shulk, almost as if they were meant to be together. Then the game decided to turn this around and from a storytelling perspective it worked, of course, but you can't really blame people for beng disappointed for not getting something, they were kinda promised. As for me, i don't need realism in my games, i have my actual life for that. When i read storys, i want to feel good, without bittersweet conclusions. I'm a Happy End type of guy
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
Good grief, the crush was a filler subplot that had no actual relevance to even Melia's character arc. FC literally proved that. Shulk liked Melia in the same way he liked his other friends, not romantically.
@Ultimabuster92
3 жыл бұрын
@@ltb1345 Soo... what? I don't get your problem with MY problem. Never said that anyone has to agree with me
@xord5293
4 жыл бұрын
I thought Melia was written perfectly well in FC. However, I am not going to sugar-coat this as much as I won't bash it unnecessarily, but FC was an average experience for me. If a Xenoblade game doesn't have a story, then that is surely a way for the devs to flesh up gameplay and world exploration as much as possible; we've seen that before in the excellent XCX. FC does not have any of those. The only good part about it is the overgrown Alcamoth and some cool-looking action scenes.
@ltb1345
3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Scerttle
4 жыл бұрын
Oh god the actual criticism is more petty than I thought lol I completely agree. Even if it’s just a year, that’s absolutely long enough for a fleeting crush to go away. I would say Melia’s time scale makes the time she hung out with the gang during the main game even more fleeting.
@SonicMaster211
4 жыл бұрын
I still don't think the crush is gone completely, but I do believe that it is gone enough for it not to matter anymore.
@Scerttle
4 жыл бұрын
SonicMaster211 Fair. I’m not gonna disagree cause that kind of thing is subjective. I guess if Shulk is her first crush it might linger a little more. We don’t know enough about her romantic history. But we do know she’s a respectful person who will put her feelings aside for others.
@SonicMaster211
4 жыл бұрын
@@Scerttle Agreed. Plus it is possible. I still love my second crush to this day, but I manage to hold a form of control of it. That is why I am speaking from personal experience.
@black1blade74
4 жыл бұрын
Also if it took 5 times longer for high entia to get over feelings for someone it would also take them 5 times longer to develop those feelings. As far as we can tell in how they are portrayed, high entia are basically just humans that live longer. Even a lot of the machina act pretty much like humans even though some of them have lived for 1000s of years. The thing about elves taking longer to develop relationships is a bit thing in a lot of fantasy settings and one reason that they are often dying out, because they aren't horny mofos like humans lol.
@DjPon9173
4 жыл бұрын
He said melia is about 18 years old but she is 89 years old
@black1blade74
4 жыл бұрын
@@DjPon9173 Melia is 18 in terms of equiv high entia to human years.
@komi___
10 ай бұрын
I just ship her with Tyrea now. Though I haven't played 3.
@mysteriouscolours1532
4 ай бұрын
You ship her with her sister?
@thewatermoose
4 жыл бұрын
Before I start the video. “There’s criticism?”
@Vokoca
2 жыл бұрын
Oh the crush doesn't come up at all? That actually made me more interested in the DLC than I was before, because I absolutely hated that plot point in the original game.
@AlexBowesVideos
2 жыл бұрын
Another reason you couldn’t expect masterpiece quality from this game is that it came with the main game at no extra cost. They would’ve charged more money for the game if this epilogue was like Torna
@Diego-Solano
3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's implied that Melia accepted the fact that Shulk was happy with Fiora when they have their conversation at colony 6 Combine that with the ending, their short conversation And the fact it's been so long since then, she is probably over him by now
@geraldpopinski5650
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of the people who think that melia not working her stuff out with shulk have not played through all the side content of the main game and only payed attention to the main plot and maybe a little extra. If you look at the game from no side stuff, it feels that they just introduced that part of melia's character and then immediately disregarded it storywise, so they went into future connected saw melia and shulk, and went, "OH! That's how they are going to flesh that out!" Then when that didn't happen, they got disappointed, as they had not seen a resolution for what was played up to be a big part of melia's arc.
@yourtrubers1728
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the whole melia loves shulk think is more insenuated than cannon. Nothing explicitely happened between them.
@WealthyIndustrialist
2 жыл бұрын
My only problem with it is the giant dragon you fight doesn’t respawn.
@MakenaForest
4 жыл бұрын
why criticize that when the much bigger problem is there isnt trading anymore
@samreddig8819
4 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with the criticism. I just wanted closure to an unresolved character point. How would you like it if fiora's renewed flesh body wasn't shown in the end of xc1 and then she was back to normal in xc3 and nobody mentions it at all? Not even an off hand comment. When characters develops offscreen there's a limit to what you can do before the audience goes "well why didn't you tell that story". This is also exasperated with melia since she gets shit on so much through the course of the game. Then the writers gave her an out then shut that down too. People love melia and want thing to go her way at least once. But it often felt like she was forgotten about. To the point where her crush on shulk was just forgotten about while writing FC. The best example i can think of is halo 4-5. Catherine Halesy, a mad genius responsible for the Spartan 2 program that single handedly saved the galaxy. Goes from 2 arms to 1 between halo 4 and 5. Thos is explained in the halo 4 free dlc spartan ops mode. But i didn't have internet then. So when i get halo 5 (which is admittedly bad for various other reasons) my reaction was wtf why is she missing an arm and why didn't we see the story around it.
@oneish7454
4 жыл бұрын
There was a heart to heart between Melia and Sharla where she explicitly says she's giving up. Can't get amy more concrete than that
@samreddig8819
4 жыл бұрын
@@oneish7454 except that sharla sucks and not everybody raises affinity with her. Honestly the best solution would've been a quiet moment in FC that basically went: Shulk: Hey Melia? I noticed you were quieter than usual after we got Fiora back. Why was that? Melia: Well i was still mourning my father... And perhaps i was a bit jealous. Shulk: jealous? Of Fiora? Melia: well yeah. But don't worry that's all in the past now. Besides Fiora's shown me you skull's a bit too thick anyways. Shulk: (I guess she was jealous of Fiora's mechon body? But that doesn't make sense... Hmm I'll have to think on this) The best part is that if you go back to the base game. Melia does play a lesser role after prison island. Because that's when Fiora's arc picks up. So it even works in the context of the story. Maybe Melia could make some playful jabs at Shulk about him and Fiora. Something like that. Or since FC apparently kinda confirms XC1/2 crossover dlc as cannon (and it was kinda implied at the end of the game) put Shulk and Fiora together officially. And maybe have a subtle running gag about how Fiora and Melia are best friends (which they pretty much are by the end of the base game) and how Fiora must trust Melia a lot to let her be alone with Shulk. At the end of the day it's still FAR from FC's biggest problem. And if it doesn't detract from your enjoyment, good for you. But for me FC was a good idea that died via a death by a thousand cuts for me. Here's to hoping XC3 is better.
@SonicMaster211
4 жыл бұрын
There is a line where Melia goes "I am nothing compared to her". Sure that Sharla H2H brings it home, but if you want main story acknowledgement, there you go.
@samreddig8819
4 жыл бұрын
@@SonicMaster211 i wouldn't call it resolution though. More so a conformation of the crush
@ShallBePurified
4 жыл бұрын
I don't find this to be an issue at all. There's a huge difference between a crush and being alive or dead. I've had crushes on people and got over them but still remained good friends and have never told them about my crush, nor were they ever aware of it. It's common in reality, so it's not much of a stretch Melia is over Shulk romantically and just sees him as a friend. Plus Melia has far bigger shit to be concerned about, which is the actual important part of her character development.
@benlastname6667
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe Melia backed off to respect fiora and shulks relationship like she should.
@maxsmash2199
4 жыл бұрын
why does Luxin not rotate the camera at 5:10
@TheHeroExodus
2 жыл бұрын
Mostly rambling...
@fl0w_contr0l72
4 жыл бұрын
Why have I not bought DE yet.
@enzoforgets9456
4 жыл бұрын
I got mine a bit later tham release(Mid july) so my best guess is youre strapped for cash?
@fl0w_contr0l72
4 жыл бұрын
EnZo SsK Indeed.
@raddreokami6892
4 жыл бұрын
@@enzoforgets9456 My copy was delayed by four days because the mail system grinded to a halt.
@keeysOST
4 жыл бұрын
Get on that
@enzoforgets9456
4 жыл бұрын
@@raddreokami6892 yikes
@Flamelance_Accendo
4 жыл бұрын
I wish that it connected to Xenblade 2 from Xenoblade 1's Future Connected.
@xinyyc
3 жыл бұрын
I forgot exactly how old they are, as from today's North American societal perspective, it seems like the characters are written as if they're in their mid-20s or 30s! I figure that while Shulk and Fiora are a thing, Melia is welcome to come by whenever for a triple-date or a casual boink. There's nothing in the Xeno-world that dictates relationships have to be 1-man-1-woman after all.
@Jack_MxM
3 жыл бұрын
Most of Future Connected was slapped together from old assets, but in my opinion, what was born from that was something beautiful. The music is some of the nicest I've ever heard in a game, the variety in the landscapes was impressive, as was the update to the Citadel. It worked surprisingly well as an epilogue and it was great to see old characters return. My favourite area was the new town made from Giant's buildings and it's music sounded so 'Xenoblade'... I loved it. A few nitpicks: Some of the returning voice actors sounded slightly off sometimes, which I assume is due to newer mics and having to fit back into their roles in a short space of time. Also, I wish the last scene was the shot of all the returning characters from the main game, rather than Melia being crowned. I know it was her story this time, but future connected is the new finale of the XC1 story and it felt less conclusive by ending on a small scene between Melia and Tyrea, instead of the scene that came before it.
@twilighttraveler1818
4 жыл бұрын
I personally believe that Melia still has a crush on Shulk but she has learned how to hide them a lot better than she used to.
@Chelaxim
4 жыл бұрын
How dare she move on from the friendzone.😡 We need Xenoblade Chronicles R/Nicegirls
@fel_7264
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but who’d be queen there Melia or Nia? Actually if it’s called “nice-girls” and not “white-haired-xenoblade-girls-that-are older-than-they-seem-and-have-feelings-for-the-main-character-but-get-shot-down” then yeah Melia would reign supreme there
@scrapyarddragon
4 жыл бұрын
The only people complaining about Melia not trying to get a shot at shulk's monado is because they ship the pair and are angry that it didn't come true.
@kirblicated5462
4 жыл бұрын
I think people are really misunderstanding what Takahashi said about FC hinting about the future of Xenoblade (Chronicles), it doesn’t mean the series it means the game and it’s world which is shown by the epilogue.
@vincentpey3929
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that i really really dont like in fc is the fakt that the other party members are missing it just dosnt feel like xbc1 without the voice lines of the others
@wowzagh
4 жыл бұрын
I did the last quiet moment today and I thought that tyrea was gonna be a party member but that wasnt the case. And I never did the melancholy tyrea quest, so that was the moment I realised the GODAMN HIGH ENTIA CAN FLY LIKE WTF
@teenprez
2 жыл бұрын
OK but the actually weird thing about future connected is basically not even MENTIONING Fiora.
@billjohns5943
4 жыл бұрын
I correctly guessed this based on your tweet, neat.
@mr_pants278
3 жыл бұрын
Melia being the focus puts these sorts of things into the spotlight, but if I'm honest, it works well whichever way they take it. She still has feelings for Shulk? Great, it shows a relatable human quality. She's over him? Great, she's a strong-willed character that has important aspects to her personality that aren't reliant on her feelings for another. Having complaints over such a trivial detail, when the main game already had answers for it just seems like you're looking for reasons to complain. If you don't like it, just say so lol FC as a whole just kinda felt, ironically, a little disconnected from the main game. I can't say I disliked it, but it just felt like an unnecessary extension to an already fairly well wrapped up story. The exploration of a new world was fun, but the entire plotline just felt weird. The inclusion of Fogbeasts was never really explained or related to anything, other than the newly-created world being unstable. To me, that feels really lazy, when they could have drawn some comparison to Klaus' involvement with XC2's plotline, just as an example. Perhaps I'm the one just picking for things to complain about, but Future Connected just doesn't feel complete or very well thought out to me, that's all. Good to see more Xenoblade, though, so I guess I'm all for it.
@CrocvsGator
Жыл бұрын
Having just beaten X3, kind of funny how that described how the Fog King perfectly despite it not being brought up in X3 itself. Also, about species maturity, it's also established that different the Bionis races age differently in Future Connected, as evident by Nene describing how Nopon just suddenly mature.
@sharkt9877
3 жыл бұрын
I was super disappointed cause the story was baaaad. Didn’t explain aannnnyyyyttttthiiinngg at alllll. And well I expect melia still has a crush on shulk you don’t just get over a crush like that. But she’s moved on and sees well. He’s with fiora. Not her. He sees her as a close friend. So. Yeah.
@rufflefpv
3 жыл бұрын
She's not into Shulk anymore because Alvis recreated her in the new world from Shulk's memories. And he just had no bloody idea
@gateway903
4 жыл бұрын
Geez, this is an incredible analysis.
@metroidgamer7560
2 жыл бұрын
Lol. He says he wished it showed more into the future of Xeno with it being future connected... Little does past Luxin know that Melia becoming empress at the end could be very important in Xeno 3....
@hotlinemiami2fan957
2 жыл бұрын
I played this whole thing and I don’t remember a single second of it
@seedofwonder
4 жыл бұрын
On the one hand, I agree with everything you’ve said. But you left unsaid some significant and related points. It’s all well and good for Melia to move on, but we’re being asked to just accept that Fiora and Dunban are cool with Shulk and Melia going off on their own. Even though no one could have predicted the length of their absence, it stretches credibility that this was a good idea at all.
@SonicMaster211
3 жыл бұрын
Shulk and Melia didn't told anybody that they were leaving. It was clear they left after Shulk told Melia his findings. Maybe he asked Miqol about borrowing his ship, but I think that is it.
@kiracaos
2 жыл бұрын
My only problem is the title, Future Connected. Whichs futures are getting conncted? Also keep in mind this came out after XC2, so I think some people (me included) where expecting an event to happen that would connect both XC and XC2 universes.
@KnightGamer724
Жыл бұрын
Wifh Xenoblade 3, we kinda see more of what FC was setting up.
@Xenowolf8
4 жыл бұрын
You said “Are there Nosis in Xenoblade 1 now.” What does that mean? Were you referring to the telethia?
@Excalibur5k
4 жыл бұрын
I think gnosis is a thing from xenosaga (and another thing based on gnosticism)
@wildfiresnap
4 жыл бұрын
Gnosis are from Xenosaga and are somewhat similar to the Fog King
@Rod-sm1sk
4 жыл бұрын
The fog king is 99% confirmed to be a Gnosis, a evil type of monster in Xenosaga. They're like ghosts. You should play Xenosaga, I don't wanna spoil you, just play it ;)
@darkstarmobile
Жыл бұрын
So why wasn’t Fiora or anyone else involved in FC then?
@elinacarmina3050
Жыл бұрын
Because they were busy doing their own things.
@HybridAngelZero
4 жыл бұрын
Two Luxin videos in one day, heck yeah
@fel_7264
4 жыл бұрын
Might I add a hell yeah?
@thecrimsonmeteor
4 жыл бұрын
My only complaint with future connected is it has no connection with any other game at all (not even a zohar refrence). They must have known when the put connected in the name of something xeno related
@SonicMaster211
4 жыл бұрын
The Fog King is a creature from XC2.
@thecrimsonmeteor
4 жыл бұрын
@@SonicMaster211 it uses the model of a xc2 enemy and is pallete swapped. Just like how terratorial rotbart isnt a xc1 refrence
@SonicMaster211
4 жыл бұрын
@@thecrimsonmeteor It is literally the same enemy. It has same moves and everything. Plus it had to be THAT enemy? A creature from Morytha? Who happens to be a form of the original human? Who's ID card bares a STRIKING resemblance to Galea? They choose that just for the lol's? They could have made a very dark Telethia as the Fog King, or some other kind of enemy from 2, but they chose THAT one?
@DiddyKingLP
4 жыл бұрын
Why is this a problem? i dont get it... The director said there was a hint to future games. And thats it... its a free new extra story focussed on Melia.
@ShallBePurified
4 жыл бұрын
As far as you know anyway. The next game will most likely connect to this game. We just don't know for sure what that connection is. It makes it a surprise in hindsight while also making this epilogue a conclusive ending without forcing a cliffhanger like X did.
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