In the 80s with two helpers we built over 60 Western Red Cedar decks in and around Ottawa, Ontario and West Quebec. We went through all the usual types of footings. One where we 'ironed' a garbage bag into two longer bags, welding them down the center, which then stapled onto the bottom of a 8" sonotube section (10" long) . That assembly went into a 3 1/2' hole dug with an auger and then concrete is placed from a bag into the plastic tube almost dry. Frost can't grip the smooth plastic sides of the concrete, it actually works. Placing a concrete footing not deep enough is worse than no footing at all. Frost grips the sides and heaves the whole thing up and sideways enough to lift the deck 6". Our final and best solution was too simple and cheap to believe but worked for every deck I built, one friend recently reported a deck built in mid-'90s was still unmoved, in 2015. Frost won't penetrate the ground if there is an insulating foam panel under the 4" block that supports any deck post. Using a 2' x 8' x 2" high density insulating panel from Styrofoam SM (green usually) you cut four 2'x2' sections. Grade the spot where the post goes carefully using a trowel to be level. Place the foam pad. Do this for all deck posts, sometimes only two or three. Be sure to grade under the deck so very good drainage takes all water away from the house and down across the pad excavations. Place 6 mil plastic over the ground, it should be black or dark green not transparent. Place the blocks. Install a border around the edge of the plastic, we used 2x3's on their side, pinned into the ground with 12" spikes, pre-drilled holes. Cut excess plastic and cover with bark chips, stone dust etc. With no water under the deck, there will be little to no growth. If the blocks are level, use a transit level to find the finished floor of the deck and measure down to each post to mark it and cut it. Posts are 3 pcs of 2x3 or 2x4 ganged together with the center piece higher than the others by the width of a joist. That creates the two shoulders needed to set a main beam onto, and away you go. With everything cut square and placed level, all these parts will go together without fasteners, until ready to screw together. Screws look up for drainage. Two pieces should never be together, as with house framing. That's why the mainbeam is separated by the center piece. When end grain looks up, seal it. We brought half a 'lift' of 2x6 in the longest length and put it on a rack on the top of a 3/4 ton Chevy, with a Radial Arm saw mounted on the tailgate. Build everything from 2x6's, if the beam needs another post, put it there. Three people would take seven hours to have a 350 ft2 deck "BBQ" ready including stairs (usually larger platforms) benches, planters, railings and our special Z-99 treatment. At that time it cost about $6/ ft2 for everything. In one new subdivision we built a few dozen, one every Saturday. The brand new sod got rolled up and sold at the bar after work. More than once we watched "homeowners" build the traditional concrete pier footings, taking all day to do one, while we finished the whole thing faster.
@Cotronixco
Ай бұрын
Yes, extruded polystyrene will stop frost heave. Is 2' x 2' large enough to stop frost from entering on the sides? But it's clear you understand frost heave. I cannot believe these diamond piers don't heave. What's stopping them from heaving?
@Tagraff
2 жыл бұрын
Regarding about the bedrock vs the pole -- what about converting the pole's end as a teeth for drilling? Just drill the pole into the ground without pounding. That might be a LOT faster.
@stevenmoomey2115
4 жыл бұрын
When talking “Craftsmen,” I lived in a house, that had a double door on the front. The Small 24” Door opened out, the Larger Door was 32” or 36” Wide and it opened in. It was super strong, since it had a Double Mullen in the middle and a heavy overlap. It was really nice during the Winter, as you would just open the small door.
@badgthom
5 жыл бұрын
Make sure you're still having 1 call come out and check your area for underground utilities. Last thing you want is to drive a pole through a service line, fiber optic or water main.
@RevivedBuilds
5 жыл бұрын
I would not say that Diamond piers are “lazy” or that pouring concrete piers is the “correct” way. I think it is good that there are people innovating different ways to accomplish the same goal. I am actually a fan of helical piers over the diamond piers but its great to have options!
@ptzish
5 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with most people on this gadget. The reason steel reinforcing is required to be covered by at least 3" of concrete cover when inside of a below-grade footing is so that it's protected by the concrete and top cover from oxygen. Everyone knows that concrete soaks up water so typical steel reinforcing will still get wet but the concrete and the general lack of oxygen under ground and inside of concrete footings keeps the rebar fairly free from oxidation. This system penetrates the ground and is open to the elements at the top. Water can just rain right in and fill the pipes. Capillary action will suck the water right down the outside of the pipe holes as well. There's no way this will last long term. The hard way is absolutely the right way. I'm sure all of those Dryvit guys thought their system was a good idea too and it obviously passes someones building code. Matt - you're obviously a thoughtful builder. I love (most) of your videos. Please stop showcasing these rinky-dink inventions. The screw-on stone siding is clearly a terrible idea for basically the same reason as this. Some guy like you is going to be making a youtube video in 10 years showing how terrible of an idea it is to screw fake stone to your wood-framed sheathing system with only a thin galvanized mounting tab. Plywood - Awesome! Prosoco R Guard - Awesome! Xypex - Awesome! Pex - Awesome(ish)!
@rumanda36
3 жыл бұрын
That deck screw driver attachment works great on regular sub flooring as well. Found it saved a lot of time, aches, and was far more reliable than I initially thought.
@billbalch6549
2 жыл бұрын
I picked up some quality trim boards to finish assembly inspection and packing stations, so on the back was a 1-800 number to ask for Brent to get a Windsor wood t-shirt. The guy who I talked with brought light into my eyes, Q&A on both sides for a great deal of time . Craftsman ship was the foremost and the passion to read the underline details in to materials really stuck. Thanks Brent ! And Matt keep on your content is great..
@raydreamer7566
5 жыл бұрын
I like the Diamond pier. For years I installed regular bolt to the side of your house TV antennas in a similar fashion to be a free standing antenna but by digging a 1 to 2 foot hole then cross through with pipe like the diamond pier and set the antenna into the cement. A few years ago my friend contracted the remove the cement anchorage and quoted a 2 hour job with a small excavator and it turned out to into an all day lolly pop job because of such strength in anchorage . So I know it works. the antenna was freestanding over 40 feet and guide wire back similar to a boat mast.
@nathanaelmccooeye3204
4 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of the preservationist fellow, but I loved his appreciation for tradition, authenticity and craftsmanship. We share the same view. Thanks for holding other builders accountable to the humanity of building!
@mikeratkowski3506
5 жыл бұрын
I can say that I love the screen ease used it on my porch and 10 years latter tight as a drum, power wash screen every spring with no ill affect
@LilianTejada
5 жыл бұрын
I want to screen my porch with screenease, thanks for telling about your experience. But I have cats. Do you think that it can stand up to cat claws, is it strong enough for their scratches? Of course the moment I turn around they decide to go use it as a scratching post.
@kennethyoung3911
5 жыл бұрын
Used the camo system on a number of pt decks. The field fastening was fine but the ends if you fasten near the ends within two inches the boards will crack around the ends and flair up. Plan on face screwing the ends if you want happy customers.
@StevEOnEShoT
5 жыл бұрын
A big issue I used to have with decking was tearing up pilot hole sites when backing out screws. - A small tip when preserving or salvaging used lumber and avoiding the common up-splintering gouges when backing out sunken screws is to use the closed end of a 3/8 wrench; pressed down on the surrounding wood around the screw head, hand cranking through the opening a few turns till backed above the surface. Then grab the drill and back it out the rest of the way. Admittedly it is a little tedious... but less so than waiting for wood filler to dry.
@WillN2Go1
5 жыл бұрын
Heavy duty screen makes a great dog bed. When my dog got old and incontinent, I made her a dog bed out of PVC and the heavy duty screen, then I put a water heater pan underneath. The plus to this was she loved the bed, and it knocked off a lot of dirt and dead skin off her into the pan. So it's something that might be good for a lot of dogs. Also the heavy duty screen makes great mesh seat replacement.
@phillhuddleston9445
5 жыл бұрын
I have problems driving t-post fence posts in the rocky soil on my land, this is just a no-go in some areas.
@josephscarfo793
Жыл бұрын
Game changer for house foundations as well. I slammed a 12x20 foot off-grid tiny home on some DP-75's
@anthonywallace6550
5 жыл бұрын
I have used square hear for a long time and never stripped one out. But these screws and products coming out have been mind blowing.
@beebob1279
4 жыл бұрын
Great to see you talking about craftsman coming back. My state has been getting rid of classes that introduce these careers to young people. Horrible idea
@sharoncorman1234
5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Thorman thank you , I watch u daily , Im renovating my house ...I have hung a storm door and framed it out , thanks again for all ur videos.
@ew4096
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting product by Diamond Pier; however, I dig the footing and put Big Foot underneath below the frost line; have yet to see a post heave up from that. I say if it works for you, use it. I still dig the post hole, pour the cement and know that the pier will hold the deck, and more.
@ZEPR0FESS0RR
5 жыл бұрын
I put in a massive deck with a roof and 8000Ib hot tub - I would never trust that. It probably works but even if it could take the load I wouldn’t do it... I absolutely love spax, just got doing 21 cabinets with almost exclusively spax .. those double function torx bits are insanely great and there heavy structural screws are the absolute best
@Furiends
5 жыл бұрын
That was some interesting conversation about craftmanship. However I've been a big proponent of modular and essentially user installable home building. I most certainly don't think one system fits all or that it would lead to monolithic homes. But for example insulating concrete form are a good option. The bigger problem though is that manufactured goods are more easily turned into commodities rather than craftsman being paid for their labor. That has massive implications which make supporting more modular home building unethical even if I believe in the technological concept of it. What I do believe is that manufacturers should be hiring the craftman. Their labor force should be trained well and and paid well. You need high skill producing not only a wide selection of installable products but ones that are built well. The irony is if you buy a cheap prehung door for example you're either going to have a poor install or your installer is going to need to do restoration work on the new product. A lot of these manufactured products are complete trash. Largely corporations that own manufacturers do not honor the craft guilds system. Instead manufactures expect employees train themselves and see worker owning their craft as stepping on their turf. This is why if you haven't noticed industries that still maintain that system are heavily unionized. I hate to bring all that into this discussion but the reality is they are tightly connected. If there were more worker owned manufactures there would be more craftsman.
@whiteknightcat
5 жыл бұрын
The Diamond piers would be useless in many parts of central Texas along the IH35 corridor because of the shallow topsoil over solid limestone. In some places, the limestone forms outcrops that have to be hammered out in order to build anything. I can't even hammer down a simple steel tube for a bird feeder support more than about 18 inches before hitting rock, and I'm in Matt's territory.
@buildshow
5 жыл бұрын
True
@mandog2142
5 жыл бұрын
Yep, not working in Wimberley, TX.
@whiteknightcat
5 жыл бұрын
East of IH35 shouldn't be a problem, east of the Balcones Escarpment. That's all alluvial soil all the way to the coast deposited over the last 65 million years. The escarpment uplifted Mesozoic Era sea floor deposits that now form the "Austin chalks" and limestone the area is known for.
@FlyingSugarCat
5 жыл бұрын
If your hitting rock. That is a good thing. The post wont go through it hence holding up your footing. Common sense..
@whiteknightcat
5 жыл бұрын
True, M D, but in the case of a simple pipe or rod driven into the ground for something minor there ends up not being enough earth surrounding the buried portion. With enough load (like heavily loaded bird feeders) the support invariably begins to lean without some sort of secondary support.
@poweredbyadam
4 жыл бұрын
I love diamond piers! They have improved productivity 10 fold
@sticknstonesbrkbones
5 жыл бұрын
The DiamondPier is an interesting concept. I feel like it would be hard to keep the cookie level though. If you hit a rock there is no other option but to leave it where ever the impassable rock is and cut off the remainder of the pipe unless the tip combined with the jack hammer can drive thru what ever obstacle you encounter...and that may very well be the case. Maybe there should be more options on the diamond for more pipes to be driven in case one or two cant make it the full depth necessary. There should probably be a way to level the diamond block as well after the pipes are driven in, like maybe wider holes in the block for the pipes to pass thru so you can adjust the diamond block and then after pipes are installed you can fill the remaining gaps in the blocks holes with concrete. Just a thought I had about it. Screws are always advancing but I am not sold on the self drilling screws since you placed one between two other screws on that slab of hardwood. There wasn't any blowout because that board was already secured on both sides of where you installed a screw. Looked like a gimmick to me with some trickery to sell it. The screen was interesting in the way that it appeared to be easy to install but do screens really need to hold a bucket of drywall mud or do they just have to keep the bugs out? And how easy is it really to stretch that screen and clip it in? That wasn't shown...just one side was shown so I am not that impressed. all the other stuff I just kinda skipped thru so
@joshuasutton2163
4 жыл бұрын
The self drilling point didn’t work for me on the ends of home center common boards, or spf basically
@stunv9116
3 жыл бұрын
I stumbled on to some spax screws in the drawer when I was refitting my moms kitchen cabinet doors after re painting them and OMG they are amazing... leave your drill bits in the toolbox 🧰
@danielmumby1525
5 жыл бұрын
Just finished my 1st ever deck using camo screws. About 300 square ft, so not large by typical standards, but for a small unit we've added effectively an outdoor room that we can use for almost 12 months of the year (Chimenea, hammock, lounge suite, misting system, bbq, and 40 ft long shade sail)- Melbourne downunder can get pretty hot in the summer - we just had a couple of days at 43. degrees (110 in the shade for your measure). and after 2300 camo screws, I've come to appreciate not only how much time & effort I saved in using the camo pro, but also just how good the 'no-screws' look is. Very cool, and thanks for putting together the video for other interesting products.
@gamersidegames
5 жыл бұрын
Spax are so far is the best I've ever used
@gojoe36
5 жыл бұрын
I built a deck with the Camo system about 2 years ago and loved it. Nice and clean and FAST
@reneepoulin
5 жыл бұрын
Try bobcat with auger and belling tool 1 min no sweat
@klmbuilders5385
5 жыл бұрын
Aside from the concerns of rusting metal in the ground, How do you avoid underground utilities? Miss Utility contractors admit to marking lines within 12" either way. I can't recall how many underground lines we've encountered even though the paint mark is 2' away!
@johnryan1287
4 жыл бұрын
I'm over 50. I can dig a 48" deep footing with a 16" diameter in 30 min. Mix concrete and pour the same hole in 30 min. Therefore, these gizmos need to be about 10 % of their current price to be economically feasable
@corresandberg
5 жыл бұрын
After inspection, how about add eco-resin/epoxy or concrete (or geopolymer) down the tubes to make sure water has a lot of trouble coming into the tube?
@ksoman953
4 жыл бұрын
I was about to say, for the Diamond Pier, a different load rated system could make this a great quick foundation starter. Then @6:15 happens. Nice.
@kennethbailey2616
5 жыл бұрын
In my little corner of Montana our frost line is usually 8’ but when I was working on pipelines I came upon a lot of 10’ deep frost. Depends on how much snow we get and when we get it.
@eatshit2863
4 жыл бұрын
So what happens when one of your pins on the diamond pier runs into a big rock ? How do you pull the pins to start over ? Do you have to dig a six foot wide hole to get it out ?
@420peteycrack
4 жыл бұрын
yes you do
@DiamondPier
3 жыл бұрын
No, you don't have to dig a 6 foot wide hole to remove and adjust/rotate the head. They remove very easily: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lIqB2HiOqoiLa4o
@Mike-xt2ot
5 жыл бұрын
The deck base is very familiar to me. It's the same principle as my 5 dollar beach chair.
@gaypreator8547
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah - by hand may resurface. Great Video.
@joeframer9642
5 жыл бұрын
Diamond piers are not code in all states and towns. They are extremely difficult to keep level while driving a 90lb hammer into the pipes....the tool costs 1800$...or rent one for 100 with a 400 deposit....these piers settle also. ..the best footings are .."plastic footing tubes" tapered,cone shaped plastic tubes..or precast cement collums with bases...the idea is to have a wide base to support the load...don't use these footings....
@imploded
5 жыл бұрын
Helical piles. Fewer piles required, easy to drive. Yes, they require a special tool, but man are they great.
@DiamondPier
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe. Diamond Piers are code compliant with the IRC 2006, 2009, 2012, and 2015, as well as some local codes like the Wisconsin UDC. You're absolutely right that there are some municipalities that are still denying them, sometimes because they've never seen them, in which case our code specialist will reach out and get a conversation started. Our installation instructions strongly recommend a 35lb jack hammer, which usually runs around $800-$1000, but can also be rented. This will definitely help a ton in keeping the Diamond Pier level. Diamond Piers have been used for over 25 years, and if installed properly we've never seen issues with settling in the correct 1500lb soils. If you had a bad experience we would really love to talk to you as we are always looking to hear contractors feedback, and offer training as we know it's a really new system for a lot of builders. Please reach out to us! 708-406-5005.
@johnpetrov6602
5 жыл бұрын
Once you get it level the tubes themselves will telltale any shift off kilter. Seems to me all the installer would have to do is hold the jack hammer firmly and watch what he was doing.
@tomleonard1210
5 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the tips/hints and information you share....quite educational and cover a wide range of topics
@hansfordii
5 жыл бұрын
Matt please show us about the foundation frame. Getting ready to build on an island, looks like a great solution.
@korona3103
5 жыл бұрын
I love Spax. Their wood screws have got me out of trouble more times than I can think of.
@bobkat1663
5 жыл бұрын
Diamond Pier great product.
@Sevey11
5 жыл бұрын
As a professional builder for 35 years I would not recommend using this system. It maybe a good option in unique situations but for most applications stick with the traditional tried and true ways. If your going to do the work it takes too install this system you have the ability to do it right.
@AztecWarrior69_69
5 жыл бұрын
35 years and you haven't learned that there have been innovations that changed the way we build? LOL
@jjjsmith2497
5 жыл бұрын
But?...He said it's only ONE shovel full :(
@downy_danhilly_speedman
5 жыл бұрын
Good luck driving those pins in the Granite State.
@MrSteelAu
5 жыл бұрын
ohoehniii I gave you a thumbs up, why would you wanna drive it into granite? It is a perfect solid base
@buddtwin2
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly why the company does not recommend using it in high Rocky soil areas. But ya good job pointing out something that was all ready made aware of.
@timkneiski9919
4 жыл бұрын
Then dig lol
@sunnys7645
4 жыл бұрын
@@buddtwin2 His comment saved me time from watching the video. But ya good job for the even more pointless reply.
@mtadams2009
4 жыл бұрын
I guess these are good if you have no big rocks. Since i live in New England its all I know. If no rocks I guess this would be nice.
@danielevans922
5 жыл бұрын
Live those screws.
@lkazanov
5 жыл бұрын
Neat product and I saw this at prior Builders Shows. The rust on the piping is one concern. The other is to somehow guarantee that the platform remain level and square when driving these pilings. Also the cost of the tool to drive the pilings. One thing about an 18" diameter sonotube, auger to 3' feet, poured concrete, seems very sound. Regardless, this is a very neat system.
@ChakatNightspark
5 жыл бұрын
First product. Check with your County Code Rules First. They May Not Allow it.
@brandondoty9887
5 жыл бұрын
Great set of "piers" on the left too...
@adrielrowley
5 жыл бұрын
I love Spax! Everyone building or DYI should get there variety pack, comes in a nice hard plastic reusable box. So handy to be able to grab a few screws the right size than make a trek to the box store and have to purchase 50. Hope this helps.
@nekffud6981
4 жыл бұрын
I love Spandex. Looks Nicer . .
@ShopTherapy623
5 жыл бұрын
The price of these things are outrageous! Cheaper and easier to just dig a hole, and pour some cement. Pass
@hardleecure
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of a bitch it is to make your own
@buddtwin2
5 жыл бұрын
Not really you have to consider labor. Now ya is your diy your own deck and your good with spending your time doing it traditionaly then ya maybe. But as a owner having a product that can save you up to 12-16 hours of labor per guy. Ok now you start seeing the price savings. Can you make them your self sure figure out how to make a good mold, and make sure you have a good option for concrete and a good shacking machine to get all the air out of the mold then go for it. But it’s still has not been certified for use. These you buy you save on labor and you have the peice of mind that it is going to met or exceed all required regulations, and your on to the next installation few days early. Time adds up to be a lot of money over a year period.
@hardleecure
5 жыл бұрын
@@buddtwin2 how much time does it take 1 guy with a bobcat and auger to punch a hole?
@markdsm-5157
4 жыл бұрын
That's the problem with all these high tech marvels that 'should' revolutionize construction. They want to bank on every sale, discouraging the middle class from adopting it.
@Atheyst
4 жыл бұрын
@@hardleecure I use a handheld gas powered auger and can dig a 12" hole 4' deep in 1-3 minutes.
@zakiducky
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the soil needs any compaction for the diamond pierce system (depending on soil conditions of course)? I feel like on soils prone to erosion you might have too much settling or shifting over the years (looking at flood zones mainly where surface level soil and lower can be washed away).
@zakiducky
4 жыл бұрын
Leon thecat It would be marginally better if the pipes are filled solid with concrete, but even then I’m skeptical. In rocky conditions where the ground doesn’t move much (rocky soils, exposed bedrock or mountainside, etc.) I could see this working. But again, the owner said to avoid rocky soils, so... In my part of the US, you have to go _down_ just about everywhere to prevent shifting. Frost, flooding, runoff and a very, very high water table are all issues. 36” is the minimum, even lower depending on local soil conditions and the types of loads.
@matthewjoniec9000
5 жыл бұрын
The Nard Dog is back!!!
@jefflinnell8492
4 жыл бұрын
Wooden screen doors at home depot make the best panels for a screen house. Pre made for 20 bucks , if one gets ruined its 20 bucks and twenty minutes to change it out
@BlàckÐèàth
4 жыл бұрын
Seems more complicated vs. the screw in type foundation posts.
@chrisbabbitt4202
5 жыл бұрын
There is just something about building that is so satisfying.
@buildshow
5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@insolentish4529
4 жыл бұрын
5:18 I see a better DP opportunity
@jacobstrubhar2856
5 жыл бұрын
I'm also in Texas, and am curious about pushing those steel pipes through limestone. Thoughts?
@samuelfloyd5072
4 жыл бұрын
I used this peer idea on a poorly built deck that I re-engineered except I just bought poles and hammered them in and concreted it together it wasn’t getting inspected so I didn’t care as long as it worked really well.
@VispronetUSA
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this expo with us! Looks like it was a great expo and has a lot of great designed booths!
@timkneiski9919
4 жыл бұрын
Been using them 10 yrs in mn!
@ared18t
5 жыл бұрын
Screws that pre-drill themselves ? HELL YEAH :D!!!!
@markg7963
4 жыл бұрын
Spax screws are easily the best I’ve ever used.
@omgchrisftw
5 жыл бұрын
You’re like a universal spokesperson. I think this parade of new tech could be a channel of its own.
@markproulx1472
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve used Spax screws for years. They are sensational.
@ChaNnArD-mD
Жыл бұрын
The biggest selling point is that it will save the tree in your yard and you guys should be advertising that feature more.
@DiamondPier
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Matt! Thanks so much for stopping by the Diamond Pier booth. For anyone looking for more information on the Diamond Pier, you can find us at www.diamondpiers.com. Thanks again for a great and thoughtful interview.
@buildshow
5 жыл бұрын
Very welcome! Was thoroughly impressed!
@ryanchaffee7243
5 жыл бұрын
These are amazing to use. I had seen them in deckbuilder magazine and recommended them to a GC . The soil was terrible clay, when I tried to make a hole the water started pouring in and turned it to soup. Relayed out the post and installed them and it was a huge time saver and job saver. Great product!
@Johnrider1234
5 жыл бұрын
Diamond Pier Canada available in canada
@michaelr.m.3785
5 жыл бұрын
@Diamond Pier....can these be used for the foundation of a small home: 700 to 900sq ft? I've sent 2 emails to your company asking this question, via your website, and never received a response. Please respond to this comment. Thank you.
@mkynxtg
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not from Diamond Pier but you can check out their sister product foundationframe.net/ for something bigger than a deck.
@youaake
4 жыл бұрын
So if there is big rocks in the soil, then its a no-go?
@georgeb.5072
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the showroom tapdance when it would so much smarter to show real life application.
@thomaspayne6866
4 жыл бұрын
Lookup their website or KZitem channel for possible installation videos.
@picassoamericano3332
5 жыл бұрын
You'd think this company would have a level that reads both ways to can set on top.. Comes free with your first order lol.
@JCraig545
5 жыл бұрын
Really like the diamond pier system, as a plumber I'm worried about the people using them not locating services before driving them in
@kungfoochicken08
5 жыл бұрын
As a plumber, you should love the job security such a pier system will ensure.
@M1911jln
5 жыл бұрын
While I don’t have a high of this system, digging a traditional footing or sonotube has the same chance of hitting a buried utility. In most homes, however, it isn’t that hard to find where the utilities enter the foundation.
@1mmune3
4 жыл бұрын
Good idea, but it appears to me that the essence of these are for temporary and quick setup, so selling these for a fast temporary setup like Military structures is idea. For a quick setup it makes more sense to use giant SCREWS instead of those annoying poles you have to jackhammer - then you can UNSCREW the spikes, pull out the concrete and away you go... sell as a package and include the jackhammer drill!
@OptimusSatanas
4 жыл бұрын
Cool concept.
@smartysmarty1714
5 жыл бұрын
The next time I'm building a deck, and feel the sudden urge to triple my work load, I'm going to run out and buy the Diamond Pier system ASAP. Are you kidding me ?? Let's break this down: 1. Dig a hole to a defined depth for the concrete head. 2. Start bashing 4 posts into the ground, all the while trying to keep this concrete head level and in place. 3. Grab a 60/80 electric hammer with an expensive custom made bit, and hold that thing in a precarious position while you drive these pins in (while STILL trying to keep the concrete head level with an 8" torpedo level). 4. I saved the best for last: Hope you don't hit any significant rocks or you have to do this ALL OVER AGAIN, or, DIG IT OUT ANYWAY TO GET THE ROCKS OUT. They should refer to this as the "Sucker System". The ONLY place this could possibly work, and possibly be successful, is in KNOWN sand. Anything else is attempted suicide. And don't even get me started on steel meeting concrete with moisture, etc, etc. Nope.
@DiamondPier
5 жыл бұрын
Also, we highly recommend a 35lb jack hammer when installing Diamond Pier, which will give you more stability, and is much less expensive to rent or purchase.
@jawnny_owl1857
4 жыл бұрын
You have worded my thoughts for me!
@18twilliams
5 жыл бұрын
that pier would never work in Pa. big rocks everywhere!
@tombax1653
5 жыл бұрын
"I don't happen to remember my name at the moment, but DP is "Diamond Pier" and 50 is approximate weight!" Kidding aside, really cool product! Thanks for showing this!
@TimberTownUSA
5 жыл бұрын
We're proud to be the only supplier in the south of Diamond Pier, awesome product!
@craigolson1822
5 жыл бұрын
These piers make no sense whatsoever. They are certainly going to heave.
@DiamondPier
5 жыл бұрын
Diamond Piers work great in areas with frost heave and other pressures. www.diamondpiers.com/frost-heave-other-forces
@DiamondPier
5 жыл бұрын
@Timbertown, we're proud to be carried at your great store!
@DClairRobinson
5 жыл бұрын
Steel does not belong underground as a structural element. You're asking for problems.
@thomasford8460
5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Robinson stop talking
@thomasford8460
5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Robinson Was day
@thomasford8460
5 жыл бұрын
J you
@hokiepokie333_CicadaMykHyn
5 жыл бұрын
Daniel... Inventors had to come up with an ingenious way to get millennials, to go into the trade.... Because, building decks utilizing desktop 3d printers, is not currently available! LMFAO!
@BruceBusby
5 жыл бұрын
Steel touching concrete makes a galvanic action. It'll speed the corrosion rate. This is a short term labor saver that will fail and cost the home owner the replacement cost of the deck. It's just not a good idea for the home owners. It is a great idea for builders looking for labor savings
@machia0705
5 жыл бұрын
Galvanized steel in the ground ? And rocks are inevitable. I’m skeptical but this is interesting. I think I’ll continue to use concrete. Yes, this is highly problematic.
@OmegaGamingNetwork
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously a salesman is going to claim it is the greatest thing ever no matter what. It is up to the builder to determine the viability of each technology in any given environment. I think these are a great alternative in soils where rocks aren't as big of a problem.
@galas455
5 жыл бұрын
I . . . . . . .like it!
@alm7707
5 жыл бұрын
I have to put in pilings for our deck. It calls for pilings 12 ft deep, I doubt those drive in ones would work instead. I built a deck with Camo screws,They made a really impressive job
@reedtower
5 жыл бұрын
Great video of these products thanks Matt for sharing. Love that diamond Pier system pretty cool
@user-jc8ct2fj5p
4 жыл бұрын
Windsor is awesome. Better is to is to jig it yourself. It's crazy expensive.
@user-yv9qk6jj8b
5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Robertson when you say square drive?! What do you call Phillips? Is this new or am I missing something?
@christophersmith8014
5 жыл бұрын
There seem to be a lot of negative comments on Diamond Piers. The concept for it is great. It's a perfectly fine way to establish a footing for a deck for most of the population of the U.S. That being said, it isn't a cheaper or faster option for me personally. $10 and 10 minutes is all I need to set a footing, so $135 per pier plus shipping and the lead time waiting for it to arrive will likely never be a valid option for anything that I do. I can see how it would be useful to some people though.
@dlwatib
5 жыл бұрын
It looks pretty unconvincing. Soil condition is crucial. Rocky and sandy soils are show stoppers. Rust could also be a problem. All in all, if I'm the homeowner I think I want to pay extra for a real footing and be sure I'm not going to have problems later.
@M1911jln
5 жыл бұрын
Here in New England, it is very common to have glacial till. You aren’t going to drive those pipes into most glacial till. You will hit cobbles and the pipes will just stop. The rep for Diamond Piers is understating the difficulty involved it driving the pipes.
@SC4RP
5 жыл бұрын
It is great to see the younger craftsman but don't forget us woman in our 70's and and still having fun building.
@Football5198
5 жыл бұрын
What is being built today doesn’t come close to the word “craftsmanship”. More like crapsmanship.
@inspire734
5 жыл бұрын
61 Here and rebuilding my house. I mentioned it last year. Moving from Texas to Missouri. My childhood home. Doing some videos on it. Next month or probably when I get back I will upload the video to my you tube channel. 'She thought she could, so she did-House Edition.' That is the name of the series for the house. I am doing a car as well. I do have fibromyalgia and have to take it easy. Have had major upsets with my son who was suppose to take me to Mo. I was packed, it cost me 800 for a tow dolly to move the car even. Then he changed his mind, so I paid a man and his wife 100 to put the stuff back in my house. The man said he would take me, but I don't feel comfortable with strangers. He seems nice enough. I lost a lot of money. Nearly a grand I can put into the house. The house is needing about 1/4 redone, but built in 1940 not sure if I should rewire the whole thing or just the new part. It needs switches on the breaker box. I want to get it going so I have electric for the tools instead of using a generator. Pain in the butt they are. I was lucky to get my tools from Finger hut on credit, but the first batch was stolen from a storage locker I had them in. Within 3 days. I am still paying on all that. I have since got more credit through them. I own the house, I just have to pay off appliances, tools and people helping me. Hope to be in it next April 2020.
@spigotface
5 жыл бұрын
"All you have to do is hold this 35-lb jackhammer at chest height for 20 minutes. Couldn't be easier."
@zorroonmilkavitch1840
5 жыл бұрын
If you've ever used a jackhammer it's just a matter of putting it where it goes and push the button and has no real need for your strength that's not really the correct observation I don't think
@hardleecure
5 жыл бұрын
same as a rotary hammer. The tool might weight 30lbs but all you have to do is put it where you want to drill a hole and just lean slightly into it. The tool does all the work. Its not bad at all. Those pipes will support all the weight of the hammer. Just set it and pull the trigger and let the tool do it's job.
@buddtwin2
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those KZitem experts. Specially when you can tell they don’t have a clue what there talking about lol.
@Gmanboobies
5 жыл бұрын
Friggin pansy just hit it with your purse if the jackhammer is to heavy.
@kartboarder22g17
4 жыл бұрын
Damn I'd rather do this than dig the hole
@ayoitsyayo
4 жыл бұрын
Very niche product
@curtisheb8595
5 жыл бұрын
Build it right the first time!
@niklasxl
4 жыл бұрын
why dont you just use 15dollar screw in poles for the foundation of a deck? way faster and cheaper and you just need leverage to screw it in :D
@ARMENAMERIKANE
4 жыл бұрын
The foundation frame would be great for tiny homes
@smtheodore
5 жыл бұрын
Diamond piers.... ha ! Come to New Hampshire and try hammering into some solid granite.
@christophersmith8014
5 жыл бұрын
If it's solid granite you wouldn't need a pier at all though, right? Just attach the deck post directly to the ground.
@smtheodore
5 жыл бұрын
Christopher Smith You wouldn’t know it’s solid granite till you start digging, right ?
@JaredToon
5 жыл бұрын
I like to anchor my decks to the nh permafrost
@smtheodore
5 жыл бұрын
:) I rented a two man auger.. I had 12 holes to dig... in 10 of them, it went down about 6-8" and then just laughed at me as 2 foot "auger bit" hit granite. I ended up renting a demolition hammer... one week later I had my footing holes at a respectable depth !
@737smartin
5 жыл бұрын
Silly challenge. How do you dig a footing hole past the frost line in solid granite?
@TheGuruStud
5 жыл бұрын
Thick epoxy coating on those roads would make it last. The screws look amazing, though. I hate pilot drilling LOL. But, I'm sure they're expensive.
@thomasgiroux7255
3 жыл бұрын
What about hitting a large Boulder or ledge?
@8015007
4 жыл бұрын
Have any of you guys heard of techno post. We use them a ton in Vermont in many soil conditions
@adammckenzie1873
5 жыл бұрын
taking decks apart with square drive screws u need to use a blower get dust out of the heads and they remove much easier. dont blow it they just strip
@MW-gh1mo
5 жыл бұрын
48" frost depth in Baltimore? I don't think so, maybe 30". Neat product, looks like it wouldn't work up close to a structure, if you needed a pier there. Otherwise pretty cool alternative to digging.
@furnituregod7928
5 жыл бұрын
Here in central new jersey it's 18" to 24"
@johnrutledge8181
4 жыл бұрын
Pipi long stocking gonna kick your ass.
@jr.3407
5 жыл бұрын
Try that in the Bee Cave area. No Go.
@JustinCrediblename
5 жыл бұрын
those pole pins should really be stainless. there's not much excuse when it's $3/lb.
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