cant blame these dudes.. i pray at the altar of the bud
@archite001
22 күн бұрын
Goated comment
@sridonepudi9724
22 күн бұрын
Lol his outro was a huge bong hit lmao 32:59
@archite001
22 күн бұрын
@@sridonepudi9724 honored madman intros and outros are legendary
@EFFLUVIUMWRITING
22 күн бұрын
we love honored madman everybody say thank you honored madman
@josephsatterfield455
22 күн бұрын
Thank you honored madman
@nicholas8237
22 күн бұрын
Thank you Honored Madman!
@lucashampton6269
22 күн бұрын
Thank you Honored Madman!
@sharinganespada
22 күн бұрын
Thank you Honoured Madman!
@angelperezmonarrez9892
22 күн бұрын
Thank you Honored Madman
@TheLucasblanes
22 күн бұрын
In a sea of Vaati look-alikes, everybody trying to sound super cult and knowledgeable, your videos really stand out. Your mockable style and jokes along a truly thoughtful analysis of the lore is both fun and interesting. Great job!
@Sohelanthropus
21 күн бұрын
This shit right here, bro ain't trying to put no mask on, he just rambles about lore the way he feels like it and it goes hard af
@ultimatthias
22 күн бұрын
The DLC really fries my brain when it comes to the timeline, especially the birth placement of Melina and Messmer, but one thing I've been cooking lately is that Marika's war against the giants likely preceded the conflict with the Hornsent. After all, the Fell God appears to be a common enemy of them both, so maybe they worked together to thwart the Fire Giants. The "betrayal" kind of merits some sort of relationship between the two groups, maybe the war against the north was that. This is also potentially why the Zamor have been discarded by the Golden Order - they control the ice aspect of the storm, could they be Hornsent warriors? They also used curved swords. Something to consider
@VictorIV0310
20 күн бұрын
Also, the furnace golems that Messmer uses has these large, crude effigies of the Fire Giants with their hair and beards on their legs, implying that it’s set after the war against the giants.
@kaizenpb8458
22 күн бұрын
I remember hearing, years ago before Elden ring was even close to coming out, that it was gonna be a game about white hair versus red hair or some shit.
@giosue6004
21 күн бұрын
Yeah i Remember that too 😮
@Sohelanthropus
21 күн бұрын
Yeeee, I remember the leaks now Technically Radagons children have red hair and Godfrey's have white/light gold But that leak is now more likely not relevant anymore
@finalaleks.6663
22 күн бұрын
The Bleach ost and Elden Ring combo goes hard
@DudeNamedDude1776
22 күн бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing dude
@sridonepudi9724
22 күн бұрын
So true, straight up got chills lol
@iamthereddemon20
22 күн бұрын
Horned madman
@Snoopy813
20 күн бұрын
Lol that’s what I typed to search this video
@mannytprimeministerofthemanate
22 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure there is a hornsent spirit that says they put people inside pots so they can be reborn as saints. The ‘shamans’ apparently had a special property to their flesh that made so it would blend and mix better with others. Essentially the shamans were enslaved and breed with the sole purpose of taking part in this potting ritual. If there was ever a reason for marika to went to exterminate the hornset, revenge for her people seems to be it. Though I don’t know in what way she was allied to the hornset for her to betray them in the first place.
@joaseleneromero9838
22 күн бұрын
I’m not saying for certain but maybe when she became an emperyean she asked the grandma for advice and guidance and once she became a god in the tower she brought her revenge
@dontgankmebruv7273
22 күн бұрын
given the viewpoint of the hornsent, Marika's betrayal didn't even have to be a true betrayal as they believed that the shamans one purpose was to become saints, and marika going against that could be seen as betrayal as oppressors don't tend to see themselves as the bad guys
@TheSoijohn
21 күн бұрын
Cant say if that sainthood is true or a lie too !
@mannytprimeministerofthemanate
21 күн бұрын
@@TheSoijohn it doesn’t matter wether it was true or not. The hornset were still enslaving a group of ppl for the sole purpose of torturing them, mutilating them and stuffing them into jars. The whole thing is unnecessarily cruel, a repeating theme with the hornsent.
@shobooknight
21 күн бұрын
@@joaseleneromero9838 I thought that the promise she made in her village was after the crusade. She promised not to do anything so horrible again, then sealed the shadows away.
@anjeljasso8979
22 күн бұрын
In regards to Omen nightmares, if what they see is horned figures laughing and whatnot, what if they are seeing their ancestors during times of revelry, but because of their culture/environment they feel haunted by these images as opposed to invigorated by them. Seems to me like Marika is weaponizing generational trauma
@timwinterhalter5233
19 күн бұрын
Everything she did makes a lot of sense if you can imagine a terrified, traumatized, physically and spiritually violated girl coming out of that jar to celebrating potentates expecting her to be grateful Then finding out that they successfully had enacted a theocratic genocide condemning her entire culture to a horrific end Marika left her humanity behind but she was all too human once and you can see it in what she tried to value. She tried to make a perfect golden family in a perfect safe place, where no one ever had to die and she didnt ever have to lose anyone. It's the kind of wishful thinking that would keep someone trapped in their grief, a slave to it. It's why part of healing is acceptance, moving on, otherwise its a prison and you lose your own free will to it. And Metyr knew it. Eventually Marika did too. With all the grandiosity of a God she had to learn it harder than most.
@alxsblv6164
14 күн бұрын
@timwinterhalter5233 but then, dispate her best efforts, her most golden son - Godwyn - died. And not just died - murdered in a treasonous plot. She turned death off, and it didn't help, didn't stop the loss. That when she broke.
@timwinterhalter5233
13 күн бұрын
@@alxsblv6164 at some point she must have sobered up and realized what she had become and I think that did it as much as anything
@dontgankmebruv7273
22 күн бұрын
torrent is a spirit horse, the abyssal woods might be the one place where torrent could actually fully die to the flame burning him.....
@dontgankmebruv7273
22 күн бұрын
after i wrote this and unpaused this was the first thing said, impeccable timing
@devonwarmack4726
22 күн бұрын
Thank you honored madman. You are my favorite content maker as of right now. Got me through so much work and tedious tasks. Love your personality. Feel like you’re a friend fr. I’m glad you’re doing something you love. Or it seems that way at least. Keep it up my guy.
@bertyamgeebler1865
22 күн бұрын
my boy brought out the mensis cage for this one - very cool
@specialnewb9821
20 күн бұрын
Imagine if Morgott had lived in an era where horns were revered. He would have been a damn paragon. Probably one of my favorite base game characters.
@bbluva20
22 күн бұрын
Oh my god, those Inquisitors DID invent Frenzied Burst!
@TheVenusarus
22 күн бұрын
maybe the Storm Lord killed by Godfrey was one of the Hornsent's gods, and Marika sent him away after as part of her cover-up
@Grimsly3736
22 күн бұрын
That could be why Godfrey seemingly doesn’t care (at least not as much as he should) about his Exile, I believe Godfrey is from the same village as Marika the Shamen people I think they had Shamens who were In charge and then Warrior like berserkers like the people who wield the beast claws, such a wasted opportunity not to give us Godfrey’s WWE moveset as a kinda Hand-to-Hand / Beast Claw hybrid weapon btw
@sercravenmohead3631
19 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure the reason he got exiled is probably because he loves his omen sons, he probably protested their persecution.
@zachw5693
22 күн бұрын
In the primordial epoch before time began, two formidable entities held sway: the Base Serpent and the Ancient Dragons. From the greater Will emerged the majestic Ancient Dragons, while the Base Serpent gave rise to wild beasts. In time, the ancestors of Godfrey appeared. The tutelary deities descended alongside Metyr and the numen. Those who followed these deities became known as the Hornsent. The numen chose to worship the Base Serpent, with the Gloam-eyed Queen ruling beside it. Silence from the greater Will drove the Dragon God, Bayle Mad, into conflict with her elder lord, Placidusax. Bayle fled to the Jagged Peak, while Placidusax sought communion with the greater Will. Their offspring, the Sax Ancient Dragons, retreated into the timeless storm, abandoning beasts and humans alike. Humans began venerating the tutelary deities, leading to the birth of the Hornsent. They sought to create a Saint capable of communing with the greater Will. Midra, the Saint they fashioned, saw runes within the forge flames. Gaining freedom, Midra met Nanaya, and together they bore Marika, known as the Reebus-a soul dual in one form. When Marika's father proclaimed the tenets of the Frenzied Flame from the forge's flames, the Hornsent slew him with golden barbs. Fleeing to the Finger Ruins, Marika encountered her Two Fingers, who imparted the incantations of the greater Will. Marika returned to the Hornsent, offering to teach them to build the Gate of Divinity. Elevated as their Empyrean, she rivaled the Gloam-eyed Queen and her snake-skinned progeny. Marika bore two children, Messmer and Melina. During this era of tranquility after the Dragon Lords' departure, the Crucible Knights and Godfrey sought Marika and her Two Fingers. They begot Morgott and Mohg, blessed by the Crucible. Rumors suggested they might be Radagon and Marika's progeny. Marika and Maliketh slew the Base Serpent and the Gloam-eyed Queen, cursing Messmer and Melina with the serpent's flame. Marika imbued Maliketh with the Rune of Death and used the remaining runes to activate the Gate of Divinity. She took Godfrey as her King Consort and banished the Numen beneath the earth for their service to the Base Serpent and the Gloam-eyed Queen. Marika forged the Erdtree, casting aside the Scadutree with Melina, rendering her formless and burned to prevent the Gloam-eyed Queen's return. Maliketh remained the sole wielder of the Rune of Death. Marika and Godfrey conquered the intervening realms. Radagon and Messmer allied with the Carian descendants of the Numen, who worshipped the moon rather than the Base Serpent. Radagon wed Renalla, while Relanna fell for Messmer. Marika mothered Melina, revealing her plan. Godfrey was sent away with the Tarnished. Radagon and Renalla bore three children: Ranni, Rykard, and Radahn. Radagon returned as Marika's Elder Lord, together having Melania and Miquella. Miquella aspired to make Radahn his consort over Godwyn, who challenged the stars as the last enemy of the Golden Order. Miquella, known as Saint Trina, sought to seduce Radahn. Melania journeyed to the Shadowlands, learning from the Blue Fairy and sealing the rot within the Church of the Bud. Ranni bonded with her mother and the Snow Witch, discovering her lunar connection. Rykard became Lord of Mt. Gelmir and Leyndell's Justiciar, uncovering Marika's past and the Base Serpent beneath the Volcano Manor. Rykard bonded with Messmer over their shared curse, along with their partners Tanith and Relanna. Rykard revealed Marika's history to Messmer, who set out to burn all evidence of the Hornsent and her past, unleashing the rot that Melania had sealed. Morgott and Mohg were imprisoned beneath Leyndell, with Messmer's forces sealed in the Scadu Realm. Melania returned, mastering her decay and becoming Miquella's Blade upon his return to his Miquella persona. Rykard allied with Ranni and Miquella, stealing the Rune of Death to slay Godwyn's soul and Ranni's body, surprising Miquella. In her grief, Marika shattered the Elden Ring. Rykard's betrayal was exposed, and he was banished to Mt. Gelmir after seizing a Great Rune. Marika buried Godwyn at the Erdtree's roots and sent Maliketh to Farum Azula for sanctuary. Each demigod claimed their rune, except Ranni, whose rune remained with her body. Morgott pursued the Black Knives with a rune and repelled Radahn's claim to the throne, while Mohg gained one from his formless mother. Godrick attacked Leyndell with Rykard, but they were repelled by Melania. Godrick fled to Stormveil Castle and began the grafting process. Rykard fed himself to the Base Serpent to revive it, becoming the Lord of Blasphemy. Morgott became the king of Leyndell, secretly ruling through his Night's Cavalry. Messmer burned the Shaded Lands, unleashing the rot. Miquella sought to cure the deathroot infecting the Erdtree and to cure Melania's returned rot. He tried to revive Godwyn and create an Erdtree to sustain everyone, but these efforts failed. Recruiting the first-generation Albanurics created by the Carians, he was drained of blood and aged, sending Melania to kill Radahn. Radahn returned to Caelid to continue fighting the astral beings. Melania and Radahn clashed under Miquella's gaze. Miquella returned to Leyndell and released Mohg, who pierced Marika's womb. In his escape, he was charmed into taking Miquella with him. Melania was carried to the Haligtree. Radahn was left to rot but remained undefeated, holding the stars in stasis. Radagon fused with Marika to heal her, creating the thorns to prevent any of the demigods from becoming Elden Lord. Melina's spirit sought out the Tarnished to lead them to become the Elden Lord and defeat all the other would-be lords.
@teagancombest6049
21 күн бұрын
Damn dude take a breath! Lol no that's actually a pretty good idea of a timeline, some typos I think you meant that Marika births godwyn not Melina twice lol. And as it gets closer to the present day of the game I disagree on a lot more. Like what is the evidence for the spear in marikas side being from mohg?
@turnipmanz1754
22 күн бұрын
Your theory of Bonny village not being the inciting incident makes sense It’s possible that marika learned how to become a god from the horned grandam and somehow sacrificed many hornsent (hornsent corpses make up the divine gate and it’s said that marika betrayed them) taking her to the lands between and making her a god. The hornsent in retaliation jarred her home village because marika herself was out of reach. After becoming an established god with children marika learned of her people’s fate sending messmer as revenge and the rest is history I realize there’s no direct dialogue from ghosts supporting this it’s just a theory
@user-od7hh8qg9d
22 күн бұрын
It doesn't really matter. This whole tale is about the cycle of cruelty and violence. It doesn't matter who landed the first hit, ax both sides were scorged to the brim of extinction.
@__Man_
22 күн бұрын
Is there any evidence for this. It sounds very interesting, even if it is just speculation
@turnipmanz1754
21 күн бұрын
@@__Man_ some dialogue/context clues support it but other suggest something else it’s not 100% either way
@shobooknight
21 күн бұрын
I personally like the theory that Marika became a succesful saint and then betrayed the hornsent. In my opinion if the hornsent slaughtered the shamans as revenge their harmonuosly melding flesh wouldn't matter so much, no?
@turnipmanz1754
21 күн бұрын
@@shobooknight marika betraying the hornsent to become a god… how very berserk
@dontgankmebruv7273
22 күн бұрын
22:50 I think there is a line from the grandma where she mentions a curse upon Marika and her children, which could have been what caused Morgott and Mogh to be Omens. Also an item description, I forgot which one, states that Marika's Children took the form of those that opressed her (paraphrased from memory) so the Jarring likely took place before Marika's rise to divinity while the Crusade and subsequent genocide of the Hornsent likely took place later more in response to her Children being cursed.
@garbageprince
11 күн бұрын
Yeah. I think we know very well who drew first blood.
@Black_Ir0n
22 күн бұрын
You and Quelaag are my favorite channels for ER lore. Hella down to earth
@RENDAN_iel
19 күн бұрын
The fly mold description mentions it can be used as “pot innards.” I think this and the implication that the people caring for those afflicted never got sick points to it being deliberate ailment to create the filler ingredients for “pot sainthood.”
@Toviyah1305
22 күн бұрын
I’m glad I found your channel a few months back. Your videos never fails to impress!
@azurespectrum1985
22 күн бұрын
My favourite new spell is the new incantation which is basically like a sonic boom from Street Fighter. It actually has great tracking and hit potential because it is so wide. I accidentally found the seal that powers up these kinds of spells
@Black_golem
19 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure they stated that the creating of the Saint jars was first. The creating of saint jars is to ritualistic and calm for it to be an active hatred after queen marika betrayal
@johnj9877
22 күн бұрын
ymir video awaited
@Lordofpools
22 күн бұрын
Everytime I see you upload I always gotta light one up lol love your vids
@andrewgpisme
Күн бұрын
This casts the Dungeater im a whole new light. He’s just spreading the Hornsent blessing.
@Evolfurnace
21 күн бұрын
The giant animals in specimen storehouse are probably from Rauh, so older than the hornsent civilization
@lute6904
21 күн бұрын
10:06 frenzied burst also comes out in the form of a spiral
@Jibbinson
22 күн бұрын
love your videos man!
@mohamedhamed1736
22 күн бұрын
Just watched the albinauric video and was thinking damn I wish there was a newer one out now. Here I am a satisfied subscriber 😂
@ethanwashington6789
22 күн бұрын
It's really interesting how the fire giants' lore ties in with the dlc. We're a given a surface-level statement about "the Fell God that haunts the sagas of hornsent" in the furnace visage desc at the beginning, kinda just to tell us that the hornsent probably weren't on good terms with the fire giants. And then, actually going to flame peak, we see not only enormous spears impaling the giants, but in the forge we see that the stone is melted into a sort of spiral or whirlwind shape, just like the furnace of the furnace golems. So kind of random, but I think we can piece together some details around Marika's betrayal. Assuming that the spears are Messmer's, it tells us that the war on the Fire Giants likely happened before the shadow realm was sealed away along with Messmer himself (this basically fits with the timeline, since we know both Godfrey and the Erdtree were already around/in the making around the time of the betrayal, going by the Secret Rite Scroll and Minor Erdtree incant, respectively). And, if we're to believe that the giantsforge flame is the same soul-burning flame that the furnaces now use, going by the whirlwind-like carvings and the fact it burns Melina away, then this tells us that Marika was likely doing the hornsent a favor by sealing away the forge's flame. And what do you know, she also personally defeated the Fell God that "haunts" their history. So just putting this all together, we can assume that Marika and the Hornsent were really strong allies at this time. But then, when she reacted to the treatment of the Shamans in Bonny Village, this is probably what is described as the betrayal, especially with how the furnace golems now use the soul-burning whirlwind of flame against the hornsent, and are even decorated like the Fell God they were afraid of (also this mockery wouldn't make since if the Fell God was still an enemy of Marika's she hadn't defeated at the time, more evidence that the giants war happened before the betrayal and massacre of the hornsent). But yeah just little bits of context to add to the dlc story trailer, cool to see how we have to re-think parts of the timeline now Edit: oh and apparently the "mother of crucibles" (as in the very first manifestation of the crucible?) sprouted on giants. So thats wierd, idk if it could be tied to anything
@EzioIlMentore
22 күн бұрын
I just found your channel a few hours ago from that previous video of yours on the hornset... and voila, new upload!
@MidnightatMidian
22 күн бұрын
The white hairs could also mean they have lived for a loooong time. Basically they are very old. It could also be related to the white hairs that are emerging from the caterpillar mask of the potentates. The hairs of caterpillars are painfully allergenic, imagine wearing a mask made of urticant caterpillars...
@jiggynegus7541
19 күн бұрын
This has to be the funniest Elden ring lore video I’ve watched 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eag1239
19 күн бұрын
Great video as always
@neurosis51
22 күн бұрын
Hmm, you're the first I heard to posit that marika "betrayed" the hornsent first, which then caused them to start jarring her people. I personally don't agree with this since a lot of the evidence and descriptions support jarring people (mainly hornsent criminals) is a traditional thing they have been doing forever. It makes more sense that the hornsent drew first blood prompting Maria's retaliation; otherwise she would have already had the god powers and wouldn't have allowed her fellow shamans to be jarred to extinction. Also the Ancestral followers don't actually have horns they grow, they are wearing animal horns.
@Black_golem
19 күн бұрын
The main reason you think the making of saint jars is after queen marika is because the man who literally tortured people wants to kill innocent people and not just the guilty people queen marika also does that
@dragonslayerteo5756
9 күн бұрын
"The only ingredient she has left is hate" gave me a hearty laugh lol
@samuelbrown7466
22 күн бұрын
I think the commercial shows the literal birth of the erdtree/elden beast which is why we hear the elden beast theme, I believe she grabs the gold threads from the mother of fingers (which is why it was unable to commune with the “greater will” which is really just the elden ring) and used it to combine the influence of the crucible and the elden ring while leaving the rune of death out of the new erdtree (which was later not enough so she sealed it), maybe the gold absorbed all of the fleshy crucibles life matter and birthed the Elden beast and hurled it to the lands between, this explains why marika kinda just appears in the time line when the erdtree does, because she just showed up one day with a massive gold tree to the outside world and the crucible was just gone with no explanation
@tokatulu
13 күн бұрын
You might be on to something here.
@samuelbrown7466
13 күн бұрын
@@tokatulu I’m currently stuck with a chicken and the egg situation in lore hunting currently, either the formless mother was found after all the blood and red was purged, or what I’m starting to lean more towards is the idea that she was the original form of the crucible a literal amassing blood pool, or more simply, a crucible of blood, I like this idea a lot because I imagine the bloodfiends worshiping a pool that blesses their people with horns and eventually they channel the spiral which is an aspect of the elden ring into the shape of the formless mother/crucible which made the gates of divinity. Personally still looking but from what I can tell so far, it’s the later.
@samuelbrown7466
13 күн бұрын
@@tokatulu the story of the game is actually the exact same symbolism as dark souls, light is time, dark is time unknown, blood is life and chaos, gold is purity that purges all darkness equally. so now you have my lens with you to research in your own gameplay
@Hxshbox
22 күн бұрын
Nice touch on the intro my good sir
@FelonOW
21 күн бұрын
holy shit the statue at 31:41 i think is literally the hornsent god that marika seduced , i never saw the statue in game but its erie. The hood the larger figure is wearing looks exactly like what marika pulls the rune from before approaching the gate of divinity
@timelineenjoyer
22 күн бұрын
I wonder if Marika conquered the fire giants before the hornsent, would be fitting if she gained their fire and used it against the ones who feared it most
@TheHonoredMadman
22 күн бұрын
This seems likely to me as well. The intricacies arent clear but i agree to the concept
@spawnofchaos9422
22 күн бұрын
That seems to be the case as Messmer's crusade is implied to have happened long after Radagon became King Consort. Howevef I believe Marika to have conquered the Fire Giant in fear that Messmer's power might go wild some day
@D3athL1vin
22 күн бұрын
most likely since messmers crusade seemingly happened relatively recently, for example he's referenced as a big bro figure for radahn so think about what that implies timeline wise
@teagancombest6049
21 күн бұрын
The wicker man guys have fire giant corpses on them already, and dragons. Kinda seems to imply this happened after the wars against the giants and ancient dragons already happened.
@cjh.1920
22 күн бұрын
I just put two and two together with the omenkiller build. That’s hard bro.
@ChouxThePastry
22 күн бұрын
YES YES BLEACH OST NEED A BLEACH SOULS LIKE GAME FR
@Nope-ity-nope-nope
20 күн бұрын
Dude. Your commentary on the monks. I love you. You are my brother from another mother hahaha
@gabriellecollier8127
22 күн бұрын
I love this guy. He delivers the lore in such a personable, hilarious way, like he's just brainstorming it with a friend, instead of delivering it in that boring-ass, essay-style format. Lore hunters need to stop trying to sound like professors. Just gimme.
@pathfindersavant3988
20 күн бұрын
Finally, someone else who has connected the Ancestral Followers to the Hornsent. For some reason whenever I point out the connection people think I'm talking crazy.
@godefroy4prez
18 күн бұрын
anyone else think the fallen hawk dudes look like hornsent that had their horns excised omen-style? they would be able to use ghostflame due to their innate sense for spirits, and them being slaves could imply Marika forced them to explore the eternal cities
@tristanyackley8346
22 күн бұрын
Also my favorite new stuff from the dlc is definitely the solitude knights set, the sword of night, and Ansbach’s bow. That guy was packing some heat
@kendallbabbitt1532
22 күн бұрын
Fun!! Love your stuff
@JoeNeutrino
18 күн бұрын
"the only ingredient she has left is hate"
@Sohelanthropus
21 күн бұрын
Man, you alone keep good lore vids alive, such a great vid yet again I like that you're not trying to sound too mystical about it, you're just sharing the lore and your view points just like talking a to a friend, I mad dig that shit G🔥 My fav weapon so far is lowkey Milady, did the whole DLC with that thing since I found it, such a good moveset and a great addition to the weapom classes - I do believe Light Greatswords are here to stay, so too with Great Katanas, backhand blades and thrusting shields
@shazzgaming2930
21 күн бұрын
The hornsent definitely have added something substantial to elden rings timeline. I feel this was a group sprouted from the ancestral spirits but "took divinity in their own hands" so to speak. The pots for sainthood, the fanatical worship of spiral horns, the ancient ruins might've first rose around the fall of the eternal cities, numens were scattered and the hornsent prospered. Midra might've been a part of the rebuilding numen, who gave into the frenzied flame, inquisition takes control of the problem and the numen became fully enslaved, "shamans" for sainthood.
@papirabbi_3322
22 күн бұрын
The madman with another banger
@Black_golem
19 күн бұрын
I thought those strands at the Divine gate where the Elden ring I didn’t think those were the braid talisman
@samirose1152
21 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@MachineMistress
21 күн бұрын
When I think of how Marika sealed Messimer behind to eternally burn and damn the hornsent, I keep relaying her to Zeus. Zeus made sure hid brother Hades remained in the underworld to reign. Zeus has the "You belong to me or you're my enemy" behavior and Marika closely resembles a lot of that Pagan/Polytheisitic religion. I know the devs get a lot of inspiration from religions of all creeds and it always seems that Marika is a Zeus at times. Idk, just had that thought during MY outro
@AndyNapierrr
22 күн бұрын
Trying to push you up in the algorithm brother. Keep grindin
@Paydirt90847
19 күн бұрын
History of horns eh? Goes back about a couple decade now, i still remember puberty 😂
@fernandosalamanca1154
16 күн бұрын
Thanks man for putting out there more possibilities than just "Marika killed the hornsent because they put her people into jars". I also feel like there is more to the story. And I love a good nuanced story.
@danielrobinson7872
13 күн бұрын
It occured to me that Morgott and Mohg were born before Messmer's crusade. The crusade happened at some point between the departure of the Tarnished and some point shortly after the rise of Radagon to Elden Lord, so Omen have likely always been a thing.
@numskul
20 күн бұрын
We love honored madman
@DarkReaperK97
21 күн бұрын
Good video honored madman. Make sure you remember us when you become honored saneman
@VioletOrbWeaver
20 күн бұрын
awesome vid! the bong rip at the end was a great tribute to the Sacred Bud. gonna write a bit here, cuz i have a theory on marika’s betrayal that i think makes sense but i haven’t really seen discussed. first of all, i wanna say i’m working with the assumption that messmer’s purge was the “betrayal.” anyway, that theory is this: godfrey was originally hornsent before his soul was transposed into a vessel for the ritual at enir-ilim. obviously, we know godfrey founded the crucible knights, an erdtree-sanctioned sect of crucible warriors who fight oddly similarly to bird warriors. stormveil and serosh also show us that godfrey held reverence for storms and lions. and the lord’s bestowal talisman indicates that “the lord of the erdtree casts a long shadow over the lands,” despite there being no other traces of godfrey in the shadow realm. his identification as THE lord of the erdtree makes it likely he was the one marika used in ritual. which is especially weird considering messmer knows what the tarnished are, which pretty definitively places his crusade as occurring after godfrey’s exile but before the twins’ birth. so, the question we should ask is, why did marika only purge the hornsent immediately after removing godfrey, her best enemy-eradicator? and why the ridiculous level of secrecy when her past genocides were committed in broad daylight? godfrey being hornsent makes so much make sense imo. he’s associated with all the same things the hornsent revere. the hornsent felt betrayed bc marika took one of their own as a lord, then turned on them. the purge only happened after his exile because he couldn’t be trusted to purge his own people. and his imminent return to become lord again made marika act with an unusual level of secrecy. it also explains why the crucible knights were EVER allowed- it was part of marika’s making nice with the hornsent and their culture through godfrey. this is all just my two cents but i’m trying to get more people to consider it and maybe find some evidence for/against it that i missed.
@bacon2359
21 күн бұрын
We can always count on the honored madman for fantastic lore
@victorbowen1693
21 күн бұрын
The bull goat guy is overlooked. Hes like the new havel. We was like some horned blessed warrior
@DarteeFilms
22 күн бұрын
Hey honored bozo just letting you know I get excited when I see you’ve uploaded and truly appreciate your content brother, the vibes in your corner of the internet are like a death metal album that’s down to chit to chat and I fuck with that
@stephanie_jjb
20 күн бұрын
I feel as though the timeline fits a little better if merika's people were persecuted first. Firstly it would explain why she is so heavily bigoted against anything related to The crucible. Even The crucible knights who helped her armies were eventually frowned upon. On top of that her treatment of the wars against the hornsent were barbaric even for her standards (even using many things that she saw herself as blasphemous) and it would make sense if she would have revenge to fuel that. Another thing is that Leda describes the hornsent people as being problematic themselves "they weren't saints just on the losing side of a war". I believe that the character hornsent wore that caterpillar mask not because he was a potentate, but because of what it represented, just like how omen hunters wore mask to mock their enemies.
@Santeria-mu6fl
22 күн бұрын
“…or discord mod.” Ha! 😂😂😂 That was definitely a laugh-out-loud moment 😅
@diezelfunk
16 күн бұрын
That caught me off guard. I love this style of lore videos.
@Xpertman213
22 күн бұрын
Could the Fire Element have been stolen from the Hornsent at some point? If you look at the Divine Beast Lions it seems like they are missing a lion dancer based on how they walk. It also seems like the first phase of no element is like soot being sprayed out, like it should be fire.
@maximdrager3639
22 күн бұрын
I will say, this dlc makes the sudden influx of Albinarics in Moghs realm feels a lot more creepy tbh. Miquellaaaa
@rejectionrole1237
12 күн бұрын
Hahaha, dude, your jokes are so fucking good. From the Inquisitors’ Reddit mod to the Grandam’s last ingredient, you’re a fucking comedian.
@730ways
20 күн бұрын
The bud church is much older than hornsent culture. If you look at the difference between the ruins in Rauh and Belurat, the hornsent have clean spirals in all their building materials. The ruins in Rauh have a much more organic vining structure that is more like a braid than a spiral. In conjunction with the hornsent archaeologists and greater potentates searching the area, it's most likely that the bud culture is related to Marika's culture of tree people / spirit worship. The hornsent investigated these old ruins, and probably discovered the lineages of the long lived, seldom born women who served there and coopted the spirit magic and into their practice. They enforced a lot of structure and order in order to keep their spiral nice and tidyy.
@alexcruz3043
11 күн бұрын
What i think happened is that the Gate of divinity is just a giant Jar made of the holiest horn sent and the threads are the strands of crucible gold left in the hornsent. The idea being that if they got enough holy crucible energy together then Marika could then finally ascend to sainthood. The betrayal I think happens after the golden order was created as Marika had no need for the hornsent or Godfrey as he was close to the crucible and they the war for supremacy was over. Seeing they had no need for such a strong army Marika was able to then turn around on the hornsent then completely remove their influence from the lands between to get revenge.
@battlericky17
9 күн бұрын
I think she pulled a griffith at the gate of divinity and what shes holding up is actually the rune of the previous god
@robrib2682
22 күн бұрын
I think around the medieval era the self-flagellation that happened during the Black death and the monks or just general devout who practiced it did it with the intent of showing God that they have suffered and under the belief that what they are currently facing on a mass scale is due to a lack of virtue/faith imposed by divinity. This could have started out as the cursed blades thinking that whatever higher divinity is out there that they worship did not think that they have suffered enough to be granted the glory that was being a lion dancer. However if you want to really take a look at it, you can also see it as their views shifting to where they now view what Mesmer's forces are doing only really being allowed to continue by said divinity because of a lack of virtue in those that their society has said that are marked out as divine due to their horns (which would also segway neatly into why they would probably want to imprison some of them. Because you don't want people who are saying that your people deserve annihilation in the face of it because you aren't praying hard enough, it kinda kills morale) Again this is all just a theory
@HolyKnight-kh1im
17 күн бұрын
Total hornsent death
@imaflymydroneatit
22 күн бұрын
Amazing video
@eldenringpvpenthusiast1710
4 күн бұрын
Imprisoned, for ten thousand years. Banished from my own homeland... And now you dare enter my realm? You are not prepared YoU ArE NoT PrEpArEd!
@blakebailey22
21 күн бұрын
I feel like Miyazaki and Martin were alluding to the Vietnam War with the southeast Asian themed hornsent and the napalm-like fire of Messmer
@eag1239
19 күн бұрын
The anvil on a stick
@LetDukeCook
22 күн бұрын
Hornsent are pretty cool. I’ll drop a sub
@esco0503
22 күн бұрын
L 31:03 dude you had me dying here. You downplayed the hell out of the jar theory 😂. Much respect though, this is how I would try and explain Elden ring to a friend of mine so love the delivery!
@rowancopeland7426
11 күн бұрын
The hornsent seem to have horns only coming from their head
@benwil6048
8 күн бұрын
Notice how when u summon someone they arrive by means of the spiral
@thelionofjudah5318
20 күн бұрын
Great crucible lore video
@LordKnightBane
22 күн бұрын
Great catch on the white hair. I did notice that those connected to cursed spirits like Omen and Royal revenants will show the spirits as a discoloured gold and black whereas the spiral spirit magic like from the Grandam will be almost white and black in colour, I think you're correct in suggesting it is connected to the spirits.
@TheKinginRed
15 күн бұрын
You get the like for the bleach music, well done video as always
@topcat59
22 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure the statues are supposed be to various of horned species that existed in these land that were study and displayed in the library during their crusade.🐱
@TheHonoredMadman
22 күн бұрын
Yeah i agree, it just seemed more like trophies than specimens but i do get that they were probably dissecting them n shit. They were even making jars of their own at the shadow keep
@valv7986
22 күн бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman I think they are trying to "heal" the chamans in the jars in Shadow Keep, not making them
@alastor8091
20 күн бұрын
I hate how the Curse Blades make Godwyn's pose, but have none of the connection I thought they would.
@bbluva20
22 күн бұрын
With the Blessed Dew Blue Talisman, I like using the Horned Bairn's projectiles as an kinda extra light source, and a way as detecting hidden enemies.
@user-jy4kb4wu1k
22 күн бұрын
Thanks you Hornhead Madman.
@alxsblv6164
14 күн бұрын
Horned warriors may not know word "stagger", but in my expirience, they know word "parry" very well.
@Writh811
21 күн бұрын
The whole idea that the Frenzied Flame was considered a threat because it could burn spirits while Destined Death was a thing is interesting and a little confusing. Maybe souls and spirits are separate things in Elden Ring?
@wolfmguitar
22 күн бұрын
great video! thinking about your issues with your game post patch. have you tried verifying your files? if you go to the manage icon on steam, go to properties, installed files, then click verify integrity of game files. i had similar issues at launch and randomly after patches and this worked for me
@dontgankmebruv7273
22 күн бұрын
if the Game is on steam, try verifying the files to make sure it has everything if it hasn't fixed itself already
@alienexodus3954
8 күн бұрын
Clicked for the Elden Ring content Subbed for the bing rip 😂
@tuckddd9
22 күн бұрын
You always dropping whenever I’m rollin up I think the turtle pope was right
@Grimsly3736
22 күн бұрын
God this video helped me a lot piecing together some connections, also the Lion Dancer in the ruins he does a Death Storm dance you got any idea what that’s about? Possibly a connection to the Death Birds? Cause while there not connected with Death Blight entirely they do have the one scream attack that builds up Death Blight which I take as a corruption of death by Godwyn which could be the same thing happening with that Lion Dancer
@HN-fb6md
5 күн бұрын
Crazy how Messmer's army clapped all those hornsent warriors.
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