Wow, great video! First of all, thank you for the kind endorsement and support! Second, definitely agree, grading has increased the focus on dollars and reduced the pure hobby a bit in my eyes. Always appreciate your thoughts, and again, a Huge thank you!
@DoubleDvintagebaseballcards
Ай бұрын
John your the Goat of deep meaningful thoughts 🙏❤️👊. You nailed everything so perfectly I truly loved hearing your thoughts. Such an honor for me to be your friend after all those years collecting in obscurity to use your words 😊❤🤙🤙
@alltimesportscards
Ай бұрын
I'm wondering if John is not thinking about the fact that there is probably 15 years in age between the two of you. That could be significant because the hobby and dealer behavior changed over that time period. Think about how much more value and fraud and mistrust grew from the mid 1970s to early 1990s card collecting. That's the difference from when you both were kid collectors and going to LCSs and card shows. A lot changed in the hobby.
@DoubleDvintagebaseballcards
Ай бұрын
@@alltimesportscards that could totally be it !!
@HighPopProfessor
Ай бұрын
As a collector in the early 90s, I can say that for sure there was a subtext of “don’t get ripped off” when walking around at a show. Thankfully I had my older brother Iconic Al and my dad looking out for me too, but still, that mentality was a part of the hobby at that time as well.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Isn’t that sad. It’s surprising people who grew up like that are even still in the hobby. Stockholm syndrome?
@HighPopProfessor
Ай бұрын
@@MrJmangini Nah, just a love of collecting cards! But that did mean that I had to know my stuff! I wonder if ultra-modern graded collectors would even know what ‘92 ultra cards smell like… 😂
@OC-MC_Joe
Ай бұрын
Aaron is my brother from another mother life long type of friend. Thanks for shouting him out. Love your channel. We both talk about it regularly. I collect the same type of stuff. Thanks for your contributions to the hobby!
@MarksDodgersCards
Ай бұрын
Love the Baguer Chocolate! Nice one! I just recently picked up a Dazzy Vance. So few of them and so affordable! Love the rare stuff.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Nice!!!
@Harold-s5p
Ай бұрын
Great cards you have , i enjoy the vintage post baseball and football cards
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Thanks
@RobSchroeder_
Ай бұрын
I've been telling Dylan how much I love the idea of Mag Pros, after watching you guys' video about them. I had some delivered this week and spent a few evenings perfecting my custom label to print at home. It's really rejuvenated my excitement for the hobby. My 13 year old son loves it too, and we've been putting his cards into them too. I've totally changed my wishlist for National. I grew up in the junk wax era, and instead of paying big bucks for graded '84-'87 cards of my favorite players I collected at 12, I can buy nice centered raw cards and put in my own slabs. It's perfect!
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Yes! It’s rejuvenated me too.
@stuke1976
Ай бұрын
Great commentary John! I didn't even see a dealer until I was 21. My local grocery stores were my dealers and dime stores in other towns. One town 50 miles away had a new stand., I always looked forward to getting a new Street & Smith's. I had read all my dad's 1950's Sport magazines, so I knew more about baseball than most of the Flea Market and Coin dealers in the early days. So many great deals. Finally made it to a show at age 25, in Minneapolis, 4-hour drive for me. We had trade nights before we had shows in Fargo. The Red River Sports Collectors club, we would meet one Sunday evening a month and trade with each other.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Nice!
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
I was the same way. I knew more about players than my Dad’s friends.
@vintagesanctuary
Ай бұрын
John, I enjoyed hanging out with you and hearing your most excellent thoughts, my collecting brother! 😊👊
@hammerforty-four
Ай бұрын
I enjoy collecting cards of heroes not grades. My cards. My slabs. My collection. Finkle and Einhorn no longer control my collecting. It was short lived (focus on grades) but I'm back to why I started collecting in the first place...my love of the game and the heroes who play it.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Yea me too. I went full circle.
@rayfromphilly6969
Ай бұрын
that's an awesome pickup john. I love the hostess cards too.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Thanks
@JeffsCardJourney
Ай бұрын
I've slabbed about 150 cards now with these Zion mags. I'm having a blast picking up cards from COMC, Deans Cards, Greg Morris and slabbing them. I have a brother label printer and use it for the label section. I also use the superior fits. I just cracked two 1950 bowman football cards and used the BCW bowman inner sleeve and put them in the mags.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Those sleeves fit a lot of the smaller cards. I’ve slabbed up a bunch with them.
@Hodges1455
Ай бұрын
Gave a video like. Looking forward to getting some of those mag pro holders and perfect fit sleeves. Enjoyed hearing your thoughts as always
@ACollectorsDream
Ай бұрын
Great video John. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Thanks for listening to them.
@patbenson548
Ай бұрын
We live in a Matrix John. Your not the only one that feels that way.
@shawhin
Ай бұрын
Nuance is lost on many these days. Love the tiny Collins. I lost my chance at a Tris Speaker Universal Toy card recently... kinda bummed. Smaller cards are neat too! Thanks for sharing your thoughts about grading. I still can't believe it's 2024 and there are 0 companies that provide adequate UV protection. I'd pay double if one of the reputable 3rd party grading companies provided a higher tier UV protection slab. Thanks again, John.
@mackeymintle66
Ай бұрын
That 66 set, was on my short list, when I got back into cards, in 2018. Can you show the process to encapsulate a card, using your bespoke mag holders? 👍
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
They may make for a fun video!
@jimfalkler9361
Ай бұрын
Hi John. That Lance Alworth is awesome looking. I'm heading to the National and I'll look up ZION while there. Thanks for sharing.
@fastbreaksbreakfast
Ай бұрын
Love the Baguer Collins! I enjoy looking at my tiny Bill Terry all the time. Always appreciate listening to your takes on the hobby and life. Cheers!
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Terry. Nice!
@warrendinCLE
Ай бұрын
Once again. Love the rant. Agree across the board. I appreciate your insight. Enjoyed the conversation with you and Cesar last night. I will be looking into the mag slabs. I enjoy the oddball and crazy sets
@Vintage_Goats
Ай бұрын
Great video John. I believe that there are 3 PSA graded cards of that Eddie Collin’s and 1 SGC. I’ve had a mixed experience with dealers that try to screw me over. I’m smart enough to figure that out
@HighPopProfessor
Ай бұрын
Amazing Cuban chocolate card! It’s amazing that any of those cards could even still survive today. Also, I LOVE MagPros! I still occasionally send cards for grading if I think value can be added, but there are so many cards in specific runs I’m putting together where it doesn’t make any financial sense at all to spend that kind of money grading. And one touches are too small for them to fit in with the other larger sized slabbed card holders. Enter MagPros! For about $2-3, I can put a card in a GORGEOUS crystal clear slab that fits in with all its graded brethren in my collection! I can label it with any info I want on the flip, and put it in a perfect fit sleeve too! It’s a perfect solution for my “no man’s land” cards!
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Yes. They are great and definitely fill in holes for graded collectors.
@EverydayCardCollector-Jason
Ай бұрын
Great cards John! Eddie Collin’s is on my list, possibly the Cracker Jack, but that will be done the road. Aaron is an awesome guy and has a great channel?
@Valuevintagecards-Aaron
Ай бұрын
@@EverydayCardCollector-Jason thank you, my man! I will have to share my Collins stuff. Not leaning towards a Sox era pickup?
@Valuevintagecards-Aaron
Ай бұрын
@@EverydayCardCollector-Jason thank you, my man! I will have to share my Collins stuff. Not leaning towards a Sox era pickup?
@EverydayCardCollector-Jason
Ай бұрын
@@Valuevintagecards-Aaron his Cracker Jack is his first sox era, at least I believe it is? Let me know if I’m wrong.
@Valuevintagecards-Aaron
Ай бұрын
@EverydayCardCollector-Jason I just looked and it definitely says Sox. I could have swore he was still A's era. Makes that card even better!
@kevincurtis6550
Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the cards, John. Hostess has some if not better player images on their cards than Topps or other card companies. Great viewpoints/opinions on the hobby and life, too.
@Vintage_Dave_T
Ай бұрын
I choose to have a limited Card budget. I could spend a bunch more, but I don’t feel right about spending so much on a hobby. I love collecting, but I’m just not gonna spend a lot of money on a high-end cards. I also won’t spend my card budget on grading cards with PSA, etc.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
I’m the same way.
@jamesnguyen7069
Ай бұрын
its not a scam, but someone on a forum said PSA...." Professional Scam Artist "
@Hitman23NYY
Ай бұрын
Great video John. So many poignant statements and feelings. Kim Anderson is the best. See you in Cleveland.👊
@BringingTheHeat-VBC
Ай бұрын
Those fake little Beggers chocolate cards are way too small for me. You enjoy them though! The Hostess cards are something I can really wrap my head around though. They are nice. I prefer Ding Dongs to Ho Ho's
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
I heard that lol
@CraigsCards62
Ай бұрын
"Bambi" Lance Alworth was one of my favorite non Packer players.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
He may have been the best receiver of his day from what I’ve seen.
@BaseballCollector
Ай бұрын
I like listening to you John. I respect your opinion tremendously even though I disagree on a couple of things
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Thanks man. Respectful disagreement founded this country. People often change my mind on things making me think in new ways.
@GG-sy8ic
Ай бұрын
Beltin' Bill Melton!
@thomasmcghee8756
Ай бұрын
Mr John, by far you are the best channel to watch for card collecting on you tube keep it up , I'm a fan.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Wow thanks for that!
@mikethesportshistorycollec1947
Ай бұрын
Well said John.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Thanks
@DonOlszewski-th1ir
Ай бұрын
Great video John. I’m a 1st time commenter. I watch you from time to time. Hope to meet you at the National.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Well thanks for the comment. Please come introduce yourself to me.
@jonprude2557
Ай бұрын
Vintage AFL is cool and inexpensive. Bought a couple of Charlie Hennigan cards. Like Art Powell a per-merger stud who is totally forgotten/unknown. Whatever.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Yes!
@mi777ke777
Ай бұрын
Preach on brotha! I like the cards in the slabs and don't care. They can be any company any grade if I like the card thats all that matters. I prefer raw and most of the stuff I look for is. I'm getting into TTM on card autos now. Trying to get autos of all the HOF'ers I can. No need to spend all this crazy money on them. They've been signing cards for over 50 years some of them or even longer. I can spot a fake usually doing comps. I can find vintage cards all day but the Signatures are were the real action is at this moment for me. Great vid as usual. Keep em rolling. Love the insights
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Nice. Thanks!
@gametimegallery7661
Ай бұрын
We need a grading company that brings back just four grades - G, VG, Ex, and Mint. Past that, let the collectors judge the eye appeal.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
That’s exactly my same stance!
@kurts6741
Ай бұрын
Sports card grading is subjective. That subtle variability is the issue I have with grading.
@CleanCheapShots
Ай бұрын
Looking forward to giving you a hard time in person ... in a few weeks. :o)
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Yes! Let’s do it
@EdMonet
Ай бұрын
How can you not love ANY card that has those early 70s white Sox uniforms with sky blue and Red Script lettering?
@user-wd5hf2ly7s
Ай бұрын
Hello sir! I’m a new subscriber. Just wanted say how much I enjoy your conversation content. Your range of topics, range of variety of brands of cards, and your own opinions which you and I have in common is really enjoyable. I believe you know Craig from Mid Life cards well I’m a fan of both of you gentlemen. My son got me back into the hobby after 25 years absent. So I decided to take on the attitude of “ I don’t care “ feeling ? I would go forward and just collect what I wanted even if the condition wasn’t the best haha. Come to discover you had a conversation on that very same topic and feeling! In closing I look forward to more of your channel. You have a wonderful day!
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Well thank you for the comments. It’s nice when at least one person agrees with me haha
@cardboardandplastic9267
Ай бұрын
The vibrating belt may not work, but the shake weight does. You should get one and make a video. It will double the size of your arms in two months. If you make a video of you using it, it will triple the size of your arms. On a serious note, I think grading is a lot different in vintage because the community is educated a lot better. Some cards go for stupid money in high grades, but that is a different community in general consisting of "investors" or people that have way too much money. What troubles me is the gambling with mystery packs right now. Just a way for people to grade to rip off young kids and gambling addicts.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Yes. I shared your video. Enjoyed it.
@rgc1973
Ай бұрын
John, enjoyed the video and found myself agreeing with you. Mag Pro question for you that I can't find on their website. Do they make holders which accommodate larger Topps cards '52-'56 and/or smaller Bowman '48-'52? Many thanks!
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
First. Wow no one agrees with me lol. Second. No they don’t. Not yet. I told them they should.
@rgc1973
Ай бұрын
@@MrJmangini I emailed them. Who knows? Maybe they'll start making them.
@timsfgiantsmem9382
Ай бұрын
dustin scd is lookin to make a good profit on that star jordan lol
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
I’m sure
@jonyrodz
Ай бұрын
PSA can be considered a "scam" when they upcharge people because they sent in a more valuable card to be graded! It doesn't cost any more money to grade a PSA 10 then a PSA 6! I'm not a fan of PSA basically because of that!
@collegehoopsguy
Ай бұрын
My favorite is national weathermen saying, "5 million people will be impacted by this storm" well like no kidding there are hundreds of millions of people in this country, but people are so short-sighted and fall for sensationalized headlines
@jamespaolini9196
Ай бұрын
Perfect example was COVID 19🤔
@thomasfleeson7427
Ай бұрын
The window on that SGC Collins slab is cut weird why is it like that? Thanks John
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
It’s just the way they insert the inside plastic. I didn’t notice anything unusual about it.
@thomasfleeson7427
Ай бұрын
Lol Bucky "fricking" Dent
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
The man!
@bobcalderon2534
Ай бұрын
Life is to short about slabs. I worried about staying healthy. Sorry it's not end of the world.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Life is short is right! Enjoy yourself!
@jaymedorr4119
Ай бұрын
Always enjoy your rants and wisdom John. Thank you for creating this content and for all you do. In my opinion, I think you are taking anti-grading a little too far and not accepting the good things from grading. 1. The registry gamifies collecting. True collectors still love the set registry. Are they so wrong or evil? Registry provides order and direction and a digital footprint to enjoy. 2. PSA at least puts their money where their mouth is with an authenticity guarantee - they do attempt to authenticate cards and autos. They will pay out when wrong. 3. A 10 is certainly a top example of the copy of a card and will always remain a desirable copy. 4. Technology is now integrated into the slab linked to the population reports. I see this like looking at the back of a baseball card for stats. 5. It provides more liquidity in the ecosystem. The velocity of money in the system is healthy for functioning markets. This is a macro point. 6. Over the long run, it provides more certainty to the total number of top graded examples for an investor to be attracted to the collectible. 7. It truly does protect the card from being damaged and allows for display to enjoy the art like qualities of the card. 8. It is a third party’s opinion to help differentiate the qualities of a card as a starting point for negotiation of worth in a transaction. 9. It is fun to grade - the process can be fun and exciting and a special experience. 10. The vaulting services are a real benefit for many people. This is a great benefit from an insurance and piece of mind standpoint. 11. The digital photos of each new slab allows for display on social media, which I would argue has helped many collectors connect together by sharing photos of their curated collections and cards. This is a real difference in the community that helps connect us together. Hopefully that’s enough for now to make you ponder your position, Overall, I understand that some of the ultra modern game of grading is ridiculous and that we need to hold newbie graders to a higher standard. I just give PSA/SGC the benefit of the doubt with all of the great changes they have made since 2020 in regards to process improvements, UV protection in the slabs, registry upgrades, refunds for mistakes made, vaulting services added, and much much more. Over 15 million cards have been graded annually. Yes that’s too many, but I think we need to also observe and respect the marketplace in a macro view. No one is forced to grade their cards, but I do think demand is important in collectibles. And I think the demand curve has shifted and needs to be noticed. PSA has become the currency standard like the dollar. Yes you can trade in yen and pesos, but not as well as the dollar. You can collect however you like still and that is the beauty. The card inside is still what matters the most. We just need to realize that a PSA 10 version of that card will demand the highest value/price.
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
Good thoughts. Many people wouldn’t even collect without grading. I never try to tell anyone else what to do. Got me paying PSA a million dollars to grade all my sets is absurd. I like my money haha. And I like my cards even more just the way they are. Grading takes away from my person enjoyment and if I graded all my cards I would be able to buy any more cards or retire. People with small collections are better positioned to grade.
@sticks_n_seams9904
Ай бұрын
Grading is a scam, hahaha
@leehaskins307
Ай бұрын
I’m thinking if you slab those in a slab from zion they must not be important cards… I would not like my collection of cards in a slab like that… I want a grade on my cards…. graded cards are the standard in the hobby… I know u dont like grading.. but it is the hobby of slabs...
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
No doubt. Many don’t even consider a card a real card or want it if not graded. No argument here.
@leehaskins307
Ай бұрын
@@MrJmangini When I’m at a show and see raw cards I assume it has a flaw and will not grade what you think it looks like or they would have graded it themselves… I’ve tried buying raw cards and thats exactly what happens when I grade it. My last card was a gretzky rookie raw looked like a 5 and PSA graded it a 3. No more raw cards for me. graded only at shows or online
@henrys3629
Ай бұрын
Do you have any cards of President Putin?
@MrJmangini
Ай бұрын
That seems more up your alley
@henrys3629
Ай бұрын
@@MrJmangini Currently high bid. It lists for a lot, the UD one.
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