In 1981 Lokanath Swami in charge of Greater Kailash Temple in New Delhi put me on the streets because I had visited another Ashram apart from Iskcon in Vrindavan ... I was a dedicated pujari , a cook for the Deities book distributiotor in the afternoons and I thought to myself where is the so called protection of women and children that Prabhupada order
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm sorry you experienced that.
@urbandiscount
Жыл бұрын
So sorry you had to go through that
@peaceformula5830
Ай бұрын
Sorry mataji. He's a demon. Krishna may have wanted to give you something even greater. Just see it that He saved you from that asat sanga.
@rukminivyasdwivedi7878
3 жыл бұрын
Hari Hari, Thank you for speaking with so much vulnerability and honesty. I stand by you and your plea. - prayers and best wishes.
@balaramabhaktivedantadas8769
Жыл бұрын
Hari Bhakti prabhu, you are amazing, thank you so so So much for sharing your personal heart as a devotee, as a lover of Prabhupada, as a lover of Iskcon but most importantly as a devotee who directly experienced and witnessed the abuse personally, yet what a huge mature heart you have to turn all that negative experience into love and forgiveness. Thank you for sharing with us this unique insight. I fully agree with you, at the bare minimum now Lokanath swami must for go all his positions. Sadly it has come now, after so many years that even IF he actually did not do it, still he must sacrifice his own ego and reputation to save Srila Prabhupada's reputation because this directly impacts Prabhupada's ability to preach and reach more people. Sadly Lokanath Swami's case is nothing compared to the Mega Elephant case now going public concerning Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami. GBC and Gurus simply can not be trusted to take on this mission to stamp our all types of child and sexual abuse in Prabhupada's Movement. You are going public, a tiny few others are going public because THE GBC HAVE NOT NOT NOT DONE THEIR DUTY, SO SADLY IT IS YOU THE LITTLE DEVOTEES THAT HAVE TO PUSH PUBLICLY TO GET OUR SLEEPING GBCs TO FINALLY WAKE UP AND TAKE THIS TOPIC VERY VERY SERIOUSLY AS SRILA PRABHUPADA STATES. SADLY, TO HAVE LESS EXPOSURE THE GBC IS ACTUALLY MOVING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, EXAMPLE, THE CHILD PROTECTION OFFICE ( CPO ) IN THE PAST GOT 197.000 DOLLARS FOR ONE YEAR, NOW THIS IS DOWN TO 5.000 DOLLARS!! THIS SAYS IT ALL. kzitem.info/news/bejne/km2t0IGOi6CUnaw .....
@bhimakarma
3 жыл бұрын
Hari Bhaktiji Pranamami 🙏🏻 While we don't know each other intimately, we have spent some nice one on one time and shared some kirtan, some fun, some debate, some drives across countryside. I just wanted to say thank you for making this wonderful sincere, eloquent, multi-level appeal. It touched me and inspired me. Words can't say it all. It will remain in me as an example of how to speak in a respectful, caring and yet forthcoming way. Well done Bhai! It is even a challenge to me as your Gurukuli brother to also be responsible by speaking public ally with sincere intent to serve. I hope you are well and may success and fortune be with you and your family always. Jaya Sri Krsna 🙏🏻
@fredysanmiguel4488
2 жыл бұрын
i did not heard his whole lecture but is he defending lokanath Swami?
@solorider108
Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother you have very respectfully brought this matter up. CPO has to be absolutely independent from any external compulsion for it to work properly. I think once a devotee has children of their own it makes a big difference to the importance of CPO.
@Ambika5364
8 ай бұрын
I have so much respect for you!
@savitritalahatu2501
3 жыл бұрын
Haribhakti, this appeal was beautiful and your delivery is sincere and graceful. Thank you for being the voice of the voiceless, especially children. When I was living in Canada, I must prove that I had a flawless police record to work as a caregiver and a teacher (not an initiating guru!) Never been part of Iskcon, I cannot speak on the matter but, as an aspiring Vaishnavi, the responsibility of caring for and trusted with Krishna's children is one to be taken seriously. You are so right. Serving doesn't have to be as a "Guru".
@yamunadevi68
3 жыл бұрын
Hare Krsna Prabhu, thank you so much, this was beautiful, inspiring and heart touching among all the hatred and injustice. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if those in ‘powerful positions’ actually behaved and spoke as you have in this video, if that had happened this situation wouldn’t have needed to keep raising its ugly head. No matter who we are, we all have so much to learn and I’m not talking about slokas, but we need to know how to treat each other, not just in the good glorious times, but also in the challenging and sometimes very inglorious times.
@robertduke4844
2 жыл бұрын
A super Devotee very loving, I've known the Maharaja many years ago,IAM in full agreement with this great soul
@user-es4cu8jt1d
3 жыл бұрын
Hare Krishna. Very nice 🙏🙏
@yudithmonsalve4475
3 жыл бұрын
In many other institutions any kind of abuse is dealt by civilian authorities (police/court system). It is unbelievable that this happens repeatedly in the community of devotees and the abuses are most of the time protected because of their position of “guru”, “senior devotee” while the affected people and those who feel empathy for them and frustration for how the situation is handled are dismissed. The whole situation is despicable, sweep-it-under-the-rug kind of response, anyhow with time everyone will forget and this person will continue to have his following base worshiping him. Utterly sad. My love and affection to the young girl and her family.
@govindalinden7319
2 жыл бұрын
Your words are clear and on the spot...Srila Prabhupada would support what you are saying...he did also say, that GBC members that are falling down need to be removed...so do Gurus especially child molesters need to leave their powerful position. It is important for this movement to establish trustworthy leadership if this movement should be destined to grow🙏thank you for courage...dandavats🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@editonodi2197
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 From my heart I think the same as well. And its heartbreaking 😓
@crishakti
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your wise words 🙏🏼
@robertduke4844
2 жыл бұрын
A wonderful presentation.
@filipgaurachandra9747
3 жыл бұрын
Soul brother! thank you for your words hopefuly it will give direction for those who are disconected from theyre heart
@worldofmysticism4893
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!!!! You are so true
@anuradhadd
3 жыл бұрын
Very brave. Thank you 🙏
@annacamfield2628
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@urbandiscount
Жыл бұрын
Dandavat pranamas. Thank you for this
@omprakashgupta7135
Жыл бұрын
Dandawat pranam prabhu ji Loknath swami maharaja ki jay
@MrMikkyn
2 жыл бұрын
People can overlook the criminal activities of Sannyasis, but who is overlooking the children when Sannyasis are beating them up?
@subratpanda4997
3 жыл бұрын
Hare krishna prabhu I don't see myself qualified enough to speak on these topics regarding a sannyasi, but the one thing I wanted to say is that, If this is considered to be a family matter then, why is it being discussed on KZitem?
@pradeeptamondal6258
5 ай бұрын
Link please?
@jirigaming9819
4 ай бұрын
I love you guruji. joy radhe joy sir krishna
@emmanuellaperron3517
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this very balanced appeal and the careful loving wording. Indeed, you are suggesting a noble retreat, as you call it, a sacrifice on Lokanath Maharaj’s own terms out of respect for Srila Prabhupad’s life’s work. Iskcon bears the innumerable sins of all of us and has become a dark breeding ground for a scorpion like mentality, a place one should better avoid at all cost..
@TheologyUnleashed
3 жыл бұрын
This is very mature and heart felt. Thanks for sharing. ♥️
@aleksandracvetkovic4656
3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said! In a perfect gentleman way, Well done Hari bhakti! True Vaishnava!
@gujjuprabhuji6485
3 жыл бұрын
true vaishnav heheheheh
@FMCariappa
3 жыл бұрын
True Vaishnava.. sure 😅
@krishnayacorbett7956
3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@MrMikkyn
2 жыл бұрын
The Sannyasis need to be exposed to the public.
@namabest1
3 жыл бұрын
You are so brave to come out and say all this, dear friend. I hope people can listen with open hearts and consider the greater good here. Vaisnavas (what to speak of guru!) should be above suspicion and the standard of purity should not be compromised like this. Especially if the gbc wants to absolve themselves of their cover up, they need to take the initiative to fix this ASAP. You made such good points about devotional service not requiring power, influence, wealth, etc. Perhaps the icc members are afraid of this setting a precedent that will compromise their own leadership? Thank you for not ignoring the facts and using your platform for good, Haribhakti Prabhu
@ucilistemirmar
Жыл бұрын
Dear Hari…love U!
@NandikishorePradhan
Жыл бұрын
Great havvy voice borther
@dominicjohnson1682
3 жыл бұрын
Listening now. I commend you, Hari Bhakti, on making this clip, for the sensitive way in which you have approached this matter. I considered doing something like and, watching your grace in handling this, I wish I had done so.
@owengarner9559
3 жыл бұрын
This
@gujjuprabhuji6485
3 жыл бұрын
i hope u have already got the answer for this video from H.G BasU ghosh Prabhu
@rextro4799
3 ай бұрын
I am from a very ancient Gaudiya Brahmin family, non iskcon, so I think I can say a thing or two. Organised religion and organised crime are two extremely dangerous things. Bhakti is very personal and real guru is in the heart. And speaking of Iskcon, it's still a naive institution. Not fully matured and realised. Some of its members are, especially the 2nd generation, but majorly they are quite much in ignorance.
@peaceformula5830
Ай бұрын
You are not the body. First realize that then speak.
@108KOG
3 жыл бұрын
Basu Ghosh prabhu has some interesting comments on his Facebook page about this individual
@kazumorafunatsu9477
3 жыл бұрын
Herewith his comments >>>>> Just now I was informed that one of my FB friends has posted a video of himself asking Lokanath Swami to step down as a guru and sannyasi. His plea reminds of the saying, "persons who live glass houses should not throw stones"! The "friend" in question, has for years kept very long hair, in contradiction to Srila Prabhupada's oft mentioned instruction NOT to do so. Here is one of the instructions: "Regarding the hippy religion; we must distinguish ourselves from the hippies. The hippies generally maintain long hair & beard & in order to distinguish ourselves from them we should be clean shaved. When our devotees go outside I have no objection if he dresses as nice American or Canadian gentleman. Up to date gentlemen are all clean shaved so if we do not keep long hair & dress ourselves nicely with tilaka, flag (shikha) & beads on the neck, apart from our devotional service, then certainly we shall be distinct from the Hippies. I think we should follow this principle rigidly & there is no question of giving up robes in the temple." [From Srila Prabhupada's letter to Pradhyumna dated October 17, 1967]. This devotee never took initiation, is not a strict sadhaka, and in fact does not have a spotless record in his own life. I do not wish to get into the details of all this, but he has no moral high ground from which to criticize or judge Lokanath Swami. He should self introspect with the aim of first correcting this own faults, rather than dispensing morality to someone far senior to himself, who has rendered fifty years of service to Srila Prabhupada and his ISKCON mission in so many ways.
@Krishna-xm4ml
3 жыл бұрын
Victim should always shout or make big noise if someone tries to touch inappropriately.
@metrosea
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼
@gyulajakabffy1451
9 ай бұрын
Good video, let’s say with a long introduction, but about a very difficult argument .
@robertduke4844
2 жыл бұрын
Mahabhuj, Fantastic speach.very loving
@rompadadas4658
3 жыл бұрын
Where is your Kanthi mala..???and where is your Tilak
@teamofstars
3 жыл бұрын
so many important things have been lost, especially since Srila Prabhupad left our physical presence... i was blessed to be Srila Prabhupad's cook and personal servant for a year and a half in the early 70's and got to hear and experience many things that may not have been made available to the public... one super important one is this... one morning my Kanthi Mala, Tulsi neckbeads, broke and i set them aside to restring later in the day when i had more time... when i went into Srila Prabhupad's room for the first time that morning, the first thing His Divine Grace said, and He said it emphatically... "Where are your neckbeads?!"... i told Him they had broken and i planned to restring them later, and He said... "If you knew how dangerous it is to not have your Tulsi neckbeads on, you would be shaking in your boots!"... then He explained how at the time of death, which could be any minute for anyone, the soul is escorted to it's next physical body by either the Vishnudutas or the Yamadutas... the Vishnudutas are the servants of Lord Vishnu and have only our highest good in mind... the Yamadutas, who appear like monsters, are the servants of Lord Yamaraj, the lord of death and karmic retribution, who escort us to the place where we can pay off any bad karma... in Christian teachings that is called hell... the Yamadutas have been ordered by Yamaraj, who is a great devotee of Krishna, to not touch anyone who is wearing Tulsi neckbeads, no matter what their karma is... what a wonderful teaching Srila Prabhupad gave us... one that can save us from untold suffering... bottom line is, always wear Tulsi neckbeads to protect yourfelf from who knows what kind of suffering... all glories to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupad... shared for the highest good of all by His grateful servant Nanda Kumar das
@mypersonalaccount1089
2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of people put on tilak just to trick minds like yours while they violate regulative principles.
@VG-oc3jw
3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@srilaprabhupadavani2981
3 жыл бұрын
Many of Lokanath Maharaj deciples are worried about their reputation and their ego what if our gurumaharaj steps down nobody will give respect us so they are saying Lokanath Maharaj not because they love Maharaj may be they love their egos and postion
@srilaprabhupadavani2981
3 жыл бұрын
*saving
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a lot of devotees mold their image/identity around who their spiritual master is. One of the first things devotees ask each other is "Who's your guru?" The victim(s) still always come first - before the institution, before the perpetrator, before the perpetrator's disciples. Victim(s) first.
@peaceformula5830
Ай бұрын
Well said. Neither lokenot or his followers are devotees. Its the cheater and the cheated. He is a straight demon. No potency. No bhakti.
@GrahamSchweig
2 жыл бұрын
Have you no conscience? And you know exactly what I'm talking about.
@jayradhedas2593
3 жыл бұрын
no idea if you answer these messages bro, but I like your perspective, I am very fortunate to enjoy kirtans near to you, remember me? lila madhava das....i hope one day we had time to talk...
@markfarner2917
3 жыл бұрын
Como te puedo contactor Lila Madhava? Cual es tu Facebook? Soy Mahapunya.
@jayradhedas2593
3 жыл бұрын
@@markfarner2917 pasame tus contactos hermano!!!
@MrMikkyn
2 жыл бұрын
Cancel Lokhanath!
@mysticmouse7261
Жыл бұрын
Your guruji is Lokanatha? How unfortunate. No amount of talk about family brothers and sisters can cover for the offenses a false guru has commited.
@subratkumarpanda1626
3 жыл бұрын
I think it shouldn't be discussed on youtube , if you call it as a *family issue*
@sridharasrinivasadas79
3 жыл бұрын
1. This person is not even in a devotee clothes. No tilak, no kanti mala, no vaishnava attire. 2. This person is simply trying to sensationalize his talk. 3. He doesn't seem to be a practicing devotee, he likes to run off of his celebrity status which is being a son of Srila Prabhupada's disciple and like all others a "proud gurukuli student" 4. He is painting the victims card when actually he doesn't have first hand information of what as he calls the survivor side. 5. Even karmis behave much decent manner than compared to some of these gurukulis who are si vengeful at heart. 6. When I was 11 or 13 i was beaten and publicly insulted in my class by my teacher who was as old as my father. I was scared to death at that time... But am I going to go take on that teacher and ask him to be humiliated like this in public and ask him to give up his relationship with his sons or daughters or society after all these years? Does it not sound crazy.. yes i can ask the same question, would i allow my child to come near that teacher now? 6. Karmis are much better in this accord that as aluminis they respect their teachers much better. 7. This person quotes Buddha so must be studying Bhuddism. Has lost faith in Srila Prabhupada's books and xan't remember one full shloka but even makes fun of his own name .... completely anti devotional... Srila Prabhupada chastised long hairs... 8. This is the craziest that it can get to...these social media activists are simply out to damage and character assasinate and eventually try to get what in return? Last time these gurukulis settled for a huge sum of money as a damages for their self esteem...can money heal damages to self esteem? So all we can see now is mere croc tears and zero faith on Lord Krishna or zero prayers for even the survivor as they term it... Just heartless materialistic mundane mix and seems like pitiching for something material as damages for the pain of someone who is not even in the picture today.
@SP-LW.55.11.5
3 жыл бұрын
How disgusting are you?! You question the abuse testimony of a child? What if this was you as a child who was violated in your OWN HOME by a supposed spiritual leader? What if this was your own child's testimony? Would you give credit then? Cowards like you hide behind the computer screen and make long frivolous lists criticizing as though you are the highest devotee and everyone else is beneath you. You should be ASHAMED of yourself and anyone doubting the God like innocence of a child and their testimony deserves no place better than hell.
@sridharasrinivasadas79
3 жыл бұрын
@@SP-LW.55.11.5 Look, I had the honesty and integrity to come out with my full name unlike you. So who is a hypocrite or a coward behind the screen here? You ask me if i would question if these testimonies are my own or my related. You are mistaken or bewildered is a better term. You cannot see the full picture. Truth has to be spoken without consideration of personal situations. Do you believe in Karma at all? Do you not have faith in Krsna? You do not have any empathy for neither parties and hence you are discriminating between the so-called victor and victim. Do you not have faith in Krsna that irrespective of your personal situation, if we are truly sincere that Krsna is the ultimate protector, well-wisher, and controller He will not let happen anything to you that would shake your faith unto His lotus feet. I really don't know if you are the author or you are even connected because you chose to hide behind some initials. As much as you criticize me of acts for highest devotee you take same liberty to criticize me and in that way deride me as someone beneath you. Look as long as you receive tonnes and tonnes of so-called accolades and you were happy, but one critical comment agitates you so much that you are ready to curse the critique to go to hell. This is what I mentioned that such "vengeful" attitude is not to be encouraged at all. What I narrated as what happened to me when I was 11 or 13 does not resonate with you at all because your consideration is marred with bodily concept and my conception of what constitute an abuse is to look at a higher picture. If the victim is really affected he or she will not come to public but rather surrender to Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In your response, you chose to not mention Krsna by name but can only see the innocence of a child as God and this is utter impersonalism disguised. Regarding going to hell, anyplace in material world is a "hell-like." So you did not give me any new news as to what my next destination is going to be. Rather, you please consider what I have mentioned by withdrawing yourself a bit from the whole picture and consider why something is happening in the way it is happening. Please consider what is the best way to respond to such situations as per Sastra-sadhu-guru-vakyas instead of reacting to it based on emotions. I am not a supporter of abuse in any form (minor or major) but am not going to protest against karmic reactions but I would take shelter of the Lord in whatever ways possible and take corrective and preventive steps. In this case, we all agree that there were some issues with the exercise of discretion on the part of all. In a society that has implemented Varnasrama Dharma with joint families, such lack of discretion is a non-question. This what happens if we demonise or paint varnasrama dharma as demoniac. Some devotees have done this grave mistakes within our society and we, the descendants, are facing the ill-effects now.
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
@@sridharasrinivasadas79 It is totally acceptable for people to get angry at the abuse of children. Children should be protected by society, and when children are taken advantage of, really, everyone should be angry. I find it disgusting that you don't. Maybe it's Krsna's will that the light is shining on Lokanath now, and we all see him for what he is. That he is clinging on to his status of a leader, despite having abused his position of authority against a child. Hare Krishna. p.s. Is your teacher that beat you clinging to their role as a teacher despite numerous people wanting justice served? Is your teacher a worldwide spiritual leader (so-called) trying to give spiritual advice to others? There are plenty, PLENTY, of devotees I would rather take shelter of than someone clinging to some position of power despite his egregious behavior and call for justice. There are so many nice devotees out there who would never even think about sexually assaulting a child, what to speak of acting on it. AND, they are not fighting to be some prominent guru. Humility goes a long way.
@sridharasrinivasadas79
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi we are taught to respect elders...for example my late father in those days would give publicly full rights to the teachers to discipline and would vow that he would not interfere in their descretion. That gave a full confidence that the teacher is my well-wisher. So unless Varnasrama dharma based societies are established, all we are going to have is a demoniac influenced so-called devotees communities.
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
@@sridharasrinivasadas79 I will gladly respect my elders when I see they are not lying, cheating, and covering up a leader who has sexually abused a child. Is that reasonable?
@hkitm
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if the GBC would admit that NONE of their "gurus" are real gurus, but are only ritviks, it would solve the problem!
@samspade2657
3 жыл бұрын
Can't get rid of the Rtvik jerks it seems. They show up whenever stool is served.
@hkitm
3 жыл бұрын
@@samspade2657 The ISKCON "gurus" are like insignificant mice compared to Madhu Pandit Dasa! MPD is a Ritvik!
@JohnFoxx108
3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't want to draw further attention but makes a half-hour video about it? And the girl doesn't want anybody to talk about it anymore. Why does he think he is qualified to advise Maharaja? If he cares about the youth he should solve the problems of his own failed marriage first. He is disguising his criticizing of the person who tried more than anyone to help his father as love. It was Lokanath Maharaja who arranged for Ajamila to go to first go the West to help Padayatra America (he was given airfare but never showed up and money was lost - Maharaja kindly forgave this). Why are you doing this publically? "Family discussions" are done privately. You could have approached Maharaja yourself. You are just exploiting this to get the public attention. Shame on you. You should probably leave it to people with greater Krishna consciousness. You really should not be weighing in on this.
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
So Haribhakti "owes" Lokanath Swami for something he did for his father, and should just turn the other way when a child molester is a sitting ISKCON guru?
@henpeckedcrow612
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi Wouldn't it be hypocritical for Hari Bhakti Dey to comment on someone when he himself has done worst things to his own kids, ex wife and all the other women that he had cheated along the way? His pleas are meaningless... Just because he is supporting your agenda, don't turn a blind eye on other women's suffering. Don't be a hypocrite yourself.
@FMCariappa
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi I'm glad Vishwamitra Muni or Bilwamangal Thakur were not born in your time. You would just take away all their spiritual credit and put them in a hole if you could.
@sridharasrinivasadas79
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi Would you please stand-up and answer the specific points made in this particular sub-thread. If you did come forward to answer, that would be a point of credit that you can add to my previous question to you to prove your credibility of acting without any self-interest in this case. You and others have repeatedly dodged swallowing the bitter pill, which is to show your understanding of philosophy and also act based on your own spiritual advancement.
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
@@sridharasrinivasadas79 Oh, sorry, did you say somewhere in our scriptures it's okay to sexually assault a child? Even though where it happened, in NJ, it's illegal and can carry a 3-5 year prison sentence. Please show me the philosophy on that. Thank you.
@108KOG
3 жыл бұрын
Hands on chest, a moment of deep contemplation and the oh so melodramatic show starts.... First of all, this is an issue still being discussed. We should have respect for all parties. Things are slowly being resolved and brought to the fore. This message is just a hollow publicity seeking stunt. The words may be sweet, but what is the intent? Why bring further disgrace to an individual? What purpose exactly is served by this? Does it make any sense to inform everyone that Hari Bhakti's marriage failed on his inability to remain faithful to one women - his games of subtle sex with other women throughout his marriage. Informing women in Los Angeles he could be their lover, etc. To this day every woman is a target to charm, to engage, to make them pine for his attention - in short a conquest. That every smile, every public event, every gathering is an opportunity to draw attention to himself. Why should we be so eager to air ISKCON'S dirty laundry before the public? How exactly does it serve our mission? I COULD write more but we will leave it at that for now. Physician heal thyself as the expression goes. Advice is not needed at this time. Madhudvisa Maharaja left sannyasa while Prabhupada was still with us. This was decades before the Internet. Yet Tamal Krishna through the telex proceeded to inform all temple presidents around the world about the situation with Madhudvisa. Prabhupada was furious, telling TKG that now he has "made it difficult for him to return"
@enockkayondo9495
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@silvana.ameandespeciallyyo6885
2 жыл бұрын
Nobody will ever come close to the divinely endowed Srila Prabhupad.. Thanks prabhu for sharing this beautiful story of unconditional love. Only a few can be that merciful. We all must carry on the mission in the capacity that we can. Sometimes the devotee does transgress Vaisnava etiquette , and it is a slip up of his dream state which is steering the carriage. In hindsight if the story is true , it is doesn’t give people the right to put Lokanath Maharaj story on the internet.The slip ups are between the divine and the sinner and of course the law. It shouldn’t be just believe any bias stories on the internet, so that we crucify our God brothers and sisters. People should not pretend to be In saffron if their consciousness is not there. However the matter should be dealt with in an online forum , not for the whole world to see. In Kali Yuga we are all divine and demonic. If somebody would like to add the Sloka in The Bagavat Gita , I would greatly appreciate. Let’s folllow the legacy and mood of Srila Prabhpad. He will save all of us in this dark and dreary matrix. Peace I’m out..
@urbandiscount
11 ай бұрын
Haha. The calibre of your message points to the calibre of your bhakti, unfortunately
@robertduke4844
2 жыл бұрын
Persona has gone.
@MrMikkyn
2 жыл бұрын
Guru worship is idol worship.
@rompadadas4658
Жыл бұрын
Ban this guy in INDIA. Right now he is in Mayapur..Beware .
@FMCariappa
3 жыл бұрын
Long hair, no kantimala, no Tilak. You are obviously not in line with the movement. Why are you talking?
@jeanlucamade2397
Жыл бұрын
The burning question is if what he says is true..
@mrgk1735
9 ай бұрын
@@jeanlucamade2397not actually there is also other side.
@himanshupawarb-1151
20 күн бұрын
Wearing Saffron tilak , saffron robes , still molesting a innocent child , does nt it feel ironical to u?
@nitai8640
3 жыл бұрын
Make hill of a mole
@sribaladevdas9775
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say this .but maharaj never underwent a fall down.If that was the case where is the girl who is supposed to be the victim.It is not a loving plea.you are calmly stabbing the truth.There has been severely proofs including medical tests which prove maharaj is not at fault.Stop confusing people.
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, you mean the mental health professionals who specialized in covering up clergy abuse (usually Catholic priests who molested children but in this case they made an exception)? The mental health professionals who were charged with 15 counts of fraud? Excerpt from the NY Attorney General's Office in 2001: "These claims alleged that psychiatric counseling sessions had been provided to Medicaid recipients, but, in fact, many of the sessions were conducted by individuals who were not certified by the state to provide such services. In addition, Medicaid regulations require that psychiatric counseling be conducted under the direct supervision of a psychiatrist. Cullen frequently operated without direct supervision." By the way, the mental health professionals' report was never been made public. All we know is what the GBC members investigating the case took and manipulated to suit their needs, justifying Lokanath's Swami's sexual abuse: things along the lines of the 11 year old girl was entering womanhood and therefore Lokanath Swami touched her. (What?? A. she was a child. B. if she *was* a woman, you still don't touch her between the legs!)
@sribaladevdas9775
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi Present the girl then .Why are you and your team so concerned about it whereas the girl who is supposed to have been molested is carefree.It seems to be a such a well setup conspiracy.A person being charged with such fake allegations repeatedly(what a bad decision maker,where was your team and you at those times) still he has not stopped preaching the message of Godhead .I doubt if you would have been in the situation you would have committed suicide by now.Your situation is like the present day scientists who claim that very soon we will be able to create souls but we all know that it will never happen.😄
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
@@sribaladevdas9775 She came forward at 14, and was told - by ISKCON authorities - Lokanath Swami would be removed from his position. Imagine her surprise when she showed up at New York Rathayatra to come face to face with her abuser who leading kirtan, and everyone around him was unaware of what he had done to her. No, she has come forward enough already. The right thing must be done by the ISKCON authorities once and for all which is give this case to the CPO.
@sribaladevdas9775
3 жыл бұрын
First of all he is not an abuser.secondly if he is supposed to be guilty which he is absolutely not then why so many trials are being conducted on him.and why out of nowhere this topic has been raised all of sudden .why because he enquired regarding female guru Diksha system? .Is there any photographic evidence.why ICC appeal is not considered?do you think all are wrong?
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
@@sribaladevdas9775 She has come forward numerous times only to be so badly burned that she wishes to have no contact from anyone. The ISKCON authorities can do the right thing and give this case to the ICPO. Let me ask you - if there is nothing to hide, why can't let the ICPO handle this case?
@KusumSarovarPriya
3 жыл бұрын
I think uve gone nuts
@devdevh4167
3 жыл бұрын
Do you know Bossou??
@urbandiscount
11 ай бұрын
I think you've committed slander
@madan108cobra
3 жыл бұрын
Are you ok to give up on singing completely ever in your life if at one instance for 5 mins you sang terribly? Just answer this question!!!
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
Does singing terribly cause trauma to another person?
@madan108cobra
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi ofcourse it does.... I guess you haven't heard him sing and the constipated facial expressions that he makes while singing is very traumatic!!!
@saraswatidasi
3 жыл бұрын
@@madan108cobra Comparing someone's singing you may or may not like to a leader, a guru, a sanyasi who touched a child against her will between her legs, is ridiculous.
@madan108cobra
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi now you're jus making up stuff from whatever you've heard or read. Don't be a judge. There are qualified and intelligent people who know that facts and will decide on it. It's better to continue our Sadhana and avoid any further Vaishnava aparadha. Krishna is watching and karma exists whether you believe or not, so let's not forget that. Neither you or anyone can bypass it in this life or the next.
@pns5013
3 жыл бұрын
@@saraswatidasi is there any proof for what you're saying about what Maharaj did???
@zakzak4437
2 жыл бұрын
leave those topics , you are too sentimental, and unskilled to condemn him, when you see sex in everything, if swami says he had no sexual intent, why not trust him,just to condemn, fighters for justice and truth, it is popular today,disgusting feminists always find fools to babble for them, a good way to make some money
@parasuparasu-ki9gb
2 жыл бұрын
when a man presents himself as the loving friend of everybody? with no political agenda? basically presenting HIMSELF as a pure devotee? I have to wonder if He sees any fault in himself at all? then there's the mastery of smiling!? Hes mastered smiling as his permanent facial expression? only madmen and pure devotees have such smiles? the madman is blind to the worlds misery due to his lack of empathy and the pure devotee is Krsna conscious, still we see even prabhupada didnt have such a smile face as he was majority of the time grave. Also considering all the senior men in the world of devotees? why is this young upstart child taking up this fight, as he presents himself as a musician? sudra entertainer? and on the one hand presents himself as not Iskcon but then describes his upbringing in iskcon as the BEST ever? but not good enough for him? not good enough for him to represent? people bought up in ghettos are more loyal? and again coming from a place of love!? and cant even remember a sloka? its been a long time??? talking like hes an old timer? lol hes barely out of the womb??? self conceited??? these people think they are pure devotees but cant remember a sloka??? they think they are pure devotees so dont follow sadhana? dont follow regs??? just like singing dancing and associating with the opposite sex?? I find this guy two faced praising up lokanath on the one hand and presenting pedophilia as just something we need to talk about!!!?? lol really? IF he did it? then he's a sleaze bag? right? and if he didn't? those who have accused him are the sleaze bags? if you don't know? because your a musician/artist? and not intelligent enough to distinguish? maybe you need to go do some finger painting??? play piano etc...? instead of coming on here with your kali-yuga heart pretending to love everybody with your girly shirt? long-hair pouty face and lusty persona??! and going to your happy place? but thinking about this? again self-conceited? considering himself to be a pure devotee? its very off-putting and to be honest? repulsive to see self-conceited people presenting themselves as pure devotees, so many unwanted progeny presenting themselves as divine beings although simply born out of lust? I watched Caitanya swami's accidental recording where he accidentally left the camera running and live streamed himself discussing this topic which also was telling about the persona of himself? to much happiness when discussing such a serious topic? and overall now I would not have such a swami around my pets! let alone my children! It seems like the so called authorities also never dealt with this seriously back when it was first reported!? so all in all whether he "lokanath" is guilty or not? who would know? the girl is who? so many asura's now born in iskcon due to minimizing the forth reg and promotion of feminism? who can trust these people? they are souls at the end of the day and many are demons coming through illicit sex? this guy looks like a feminist also so I wouldnt trust him as although presenting themselves as promoting varnasrama? they dont even support the reality of genders nor promote gender-roles which obviously you need if your then going to have varna's and asrama's!!??all in all? although I think iskcon swami's are rubber stamped to some degree? I wouldnt be surprised if this is a bullshit allegation by a confused lusty little girl as her two older sisters are unchaste hoes according to history? and bought up in america? they wouldnt know a gentlemen if one stepped on their toes! I remember myself as a kid being literally molested by girls this girls age? so you have no idea if you think they dont lie and see things however they like? and at the end of the day who has she become? what is her character? pure men with no lust may well bump her body if he was reading to her thinking nothing of it while lusty little girls may think it significant?? etc and demoniac women are famous throughout time for blatantly LIEING??? I know women who look like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths, but lie from the minute they wake up till they go to sleep!!! thats why they need protection? from their own natures! Now I wrote this so rudely and confronting because our movement is full of fake people? fake devotees? and snowflake fake everything! same as outside iskcon! best to be humble and consider ourselves also kaliyugarites like Prabhupadas devotees did in the beginning! thats how they got so much done! they considered themselves needing to follow a purificatory process unlike todays population whom think their shit doest stink and butter wouldnt melt in their mouths although like all kaliyuga populations they are born from lusty connection of hippies mainly lol unwanted progeny with shocking karma to be molested abused etc.... they themselves attract abusers and pedophiles as karma is absolute! you reap what you have sown! otherwise no-one can touch a devotee! even prahlada was having so many bad experiences due to his previous life? none the less due to his executing in this life bhakti He was unharmed and thats the reality, that we can all become free from the reality of karma by total transcendence, but the body may experience inconvenience while we reside in it? but to blame iskcon? how about blaming your parents? real child protection starts at conception? if we bring saintly people into the world in the first place? how will they be molested? and on the other hand if through illicit sex we bring asura's into this would how will we protect them??? we have feminists promoting illicit sex and womens freesex in ISKCON from the top to the bottom? denying gender-roles which destroys the family? creating fatherless motherless children? and wonder how this happens? looking into this I still dont know? but on the one hand we have a soul who chants the holy-name all day? and on the other we have a kaliyuga girl? is it really for smiley prabhu here and us to decide? like I mentioned with caitanya swami? its no joke to defame our leaders and movement of srila prabhupada and it should be dealt with seriously? if the girl is lying which is very possible? she should be lured to islamic country and taken to court for that? and if he's lying get? him to America and take him to court! pedophiles and deviant women both deserve the full reaction of law! obviously the islamic thing is a joke but she should not be allowed to accuse one of our people of such things and skip away without consequences? and neither should he? if you literally molest our children regardless of their karmic history? if you get caught? you should be punished as nrsimha punished hiranyakasipu even though prahlada may have bought that on himself in his previous birth. point is? what is this person hiding behind a devotee mask presenting here??? gossip!? if hes so concerned for iskcon and little female kaliyugarites? why the lack of facts? proofs? people for some dumb reason consider kaliyuga females and women dont lie their asses off??? ridiculous! women by nature are more prone to lying than men as they are weaker and lying is their natural way of defense? she admitted herself she hated ISKCON before ever even meeting Lokanath and people should keep a very open mind before assuming guilt of either party and especially defaming our gurus on the words of one girl. at the end of the day so many iskcon sanyasi's are not acting correctly for that asrama? due to the perverted fake culture of feminism. and many coming from the jewish/kali maharaja community this behavior will continue to be an issue? prabhupada wanted etiquette and gender roles to be acknowledged, so far I have seen? the only thing lokanath did was associate with this girl without the protection of witness brahmachari? in america? the so called letter was fake not written by swami as so much lies have been presented.
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