I appreciate your thoughtful response. The more I learn about Joel Webbon, the more wary of him I become. You’re right. We should pray for him.
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
... And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
@craigime
5 күн бұрын
isn't joel webbon the same guy who doesn't let his wife read books that he hasn't because he doesn't want her to "pass" him?
@dandathomas6852
Күн бұрын
Must be a pleasure to live with him. Haha.
@brothermike434
5 күн бұрын
Pastor Jonathan, thank you for having the fortitude to wade into this crucible. My default position has always been, and will remain regardless of the actions of any individual or group is - I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you (Genesis 12:3) I want to be on the side of blessing! People of all tribes do despicable things but one day all the nations will truly be blessed in Him. Thanks again. Blessings!
@sammy-n5d5g
3 күн бұрын
Saint Paul said that the Jews are now those who accepted Christ and being a Jew has nothing to do with the flesh. Romans 2: 28-9 Try reading the New Testament.
@brothermike434
3 күн бұрын
@@sammy-n5d5g You are conflating categories (I'll leave it to you to figure out which ones) BTW - I've read the entire Bible through once this year, the New Testament at least half a dozen times and the Epistles of Paul more than ten times. (I'm retired and have a lot of time on my hands) But I don't have the time to argue with KZitem theologians, so make your response, if you will, and I'll leave it there. Toodles!
@sammy-n5d5g
2 күн бұрын
@@brothermike434 Wow, you are supporting those who reject Christ and who are slaughtering Palestinian Christians. Oh well, Truth is the daughter of time.
@sammy-n5d5g
3 күн бұрын
For he is NOT a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh; But he is a Jew which is one inwardly, where circumcision is of the heart, in the spirit and not in the LETTER, whose praise is not of men but of God. Romans 2; 28-9
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
... testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
@docbrown7513
4 күн бұрын
In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, ....
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
I am part Jewish. Grew up keeping the OT rules as best as I knew. How pure must my blood be for this salvation and righteousness apart from Christ you insist upon to be honored in the courts of heaven?
@pastorburris
3 күн бұрын
I’m not sure what you are talking about. There is no salvation outside of Christ.
@Purvis-dw4qf
4 күн бұрын
I have not watched these new videos, but I have noticed some problems with Webbon in some of his past videos. I know some of his views stem from the current evangelical views of hyper-dispensationalism, which frame a worldview that God deals with Israel rather than God's gift of the Lord Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, Webbon has crossed the line. Jews and Israel are not a problem.
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true things, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf.
@toddstevens9667
5 күн бұрын
Had to look Joel Webbon up. Unfortunately, I recognized him. Several months ago I decided to tell the AI not to suggest his videos anymore. It was because of one of his programs where he seemed to set up the Crusades as a model for Christians. When I pointed out the problems with this perspective, his subscribers attacked me mercilessly. And his mixing of political ideology and Christianity was horrible to me. I do not think it is true NT Christianity. Thus, I blocked his channel. I wish he would listen to your series on the Crusades. He would learn a great deal.
@lm7267
4 күн бұрын
The Crusades are why you are not Muslim today. 😂 You spit on the Christians before, act like the Old and New Testaments are different Bibles and ignore Hebrews 11:32-34. Praying for your discernment.
@toddstevens9667
4 күн бұрын
@@lm7267I am not a Muslim today because I reject the Quran, and because I believe the Bible and what it says about the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. I have repented toward God and placed my faith in the Lord Jesus. I invite you to do the same.
@toddstevens9667
4 күн бұрын
@@lm7267What does Hebrews 11:32-34 have to do with the Crusades? I honestly have no idea …
@lm7267
4 күн бұрын
@@toddstevens9667 Well keep reading it and maybe you’ll eventually figure it out: “And what more shall I say? For time will fail me if I tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, who by faith conquered kingdoms, performed acts of righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.” Hebrews 11:32-34
@toddstevens9667
4 күн бұрын
@@lm7267But none of that has anything whatsoever to do with the Crusades. Well anyway, I pray you turn to Jesus and away from the RCC. God bless
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
... and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
@notsatch
5 күн бұрын
This is an excellent factual and scriptural rebuttal to an issue I am trying to cope with concerning a loved one with some of these same views. Thank you.
@mb4980
5 күн бұрын
Do you think the antisemitism stems from the Covenant Theology? Historically there seems to be a connection.
@caman171
5 күн бұрын
YES. Webbon has stated many time that he doesnt not worry about the salvation of his children, because the fact that God gave them to HIM is proof they will be saved. That excludes him from even being a Baptist at all. Covenant Theology has its root in Catholicism, where the "church" has replaced Israel, baptism is circumcision, and children are "born" into the covenant people. This belief is the root of many forms of racism, where its twisted even further. Doesnt it sound a lot like Hitler? A "superior" race? Altho Covenant Theology itself isnt based on racism, you can see its implications. Why are there more "Christians" in some countries and not other? Reformed guys says its because children born to saved parents are saved. Get the picture?
@carolbarlow8896
5 күн бұрын
You didn't ask me but if I may contribute the answer is yes. That's why I left the PCA after 17 years. I wouldn't call every covenant theologian a theological antisemite but the roots of that whole system are steeped in it going back to early church history. Has the Church Replaced Israel by Michael Vlach is a book you might appreciate. William Hendriksen's commentaries on Romans and Revelation and his book More than Conquerors are also good examples of this and there are many more.
@caman171
5 күн бұрын
YES. Webbon has stated many times that he does not worry about the salvation of his children, because the fact that God gave them to HIM is proof they will be saved. That excludes him from even being a Baptist at all. Covenant Theology has its root in Catholicism, where the "church" has replaced Israel, baptism is circumcision, and children are "born" into the covenant people. This belief is the root of many forms of racism, where its twisted even further. Doesnt it sound a lot like Hitler? A "superior" race? Altho Covenant Theology itself isnt based on racism, you can see its implications. Why are there more "Christians" in some countries than others? Reformed guys says its because children born to saved parents are saved. Get the picture?
@caman171
5 күн бұрын
YES. Joel Webbon has said many times that he doesnt worry about the salvation of his own children, because God giving them to HIM is proof they will be saved. That excludes him from even being a Baptist at all. Covenant Theology has its root in Catholicism, where the "church" has replaced Israel, baptism is circumcision, and children are "born" into the covenant people. This belief is the root of many forms of prejudice, where its twisted even further. Doesnt it sound a lot like N*zis? A "superior" race? Altho Covenant Theology itself isnt based on racism, you can see its implications. Why are there more "Christians" in some countries and not other? Reformed guys says its because children born to saved parents are saved. Get the picture?
@caman171
5 күн бұрын
YES. Joel Webbon has said many times that he doesnt worry about the salvation of his own children, because God giving them to HIM is proof they will be saved. That excludes him from even being a Baptist at all. Covenant Theology has its root in Catholicism, where the "church" has replaced Israel, baptism is circumcision, and children are "born" into the covenant people.
@sammy-n5d5g
Күн бұрын
The sight of Palestinian children being displaced and worse is very painful to me. Jesus FED the people, Israel starves them; Jesus healed the sick, Israel helps create a polio outbreak. Sorry, but anti-semitism is not on the top of my list.
@tylermerica589
4 күн бұрын
Joel Webbon is being led by the Holy Spirit and not the culture of this world. To say he is not in my opinion is malicious in intent.
@pastorburris
4 күн бұрын
Antisemitism is not of the Holy Spirit
@tylermerica589
4 күн бұрын
@@pastorburris i agree.
@beatman9758
18 сағат бұрын
is wife abuse of the holy spirit?
@justinjmz1113
4 күн бұрын
Agree 100% withe joel
@pastorburris
4 күн бұрын
Then you are being antisemitic. You should repent.
@mgess11
4 күн бұрын
@@pastorburris Truly abhorrent, after all think of the important contributions of people like Magnus Hirschfeld who had to flee 1930s Germany!
@treasurevessel
4 күн бұрын
Good on you, sir. It's good to see somebody with a platform addressing their very troubling and disgusting anti-semitism.
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
Therefore, holy brothers, you who share in a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession, who was faithful to him who appointed him, just as Moses also was faithful in all God's house. For Jesus has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses-as much more glory as the builder of a house has more honor than the house itself. (For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God.) Now Moses was faithful in all God's house as a servant, to testify to the things that were to be spoken later, but Christ is faithful over God's house as a son. And we are his house, if indeed we hold fast our confidence and our boasting in our hope. Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day of testing in the wilderness, where your fathers put me to the test and saw my works for forty years. Therefore I was provoked with that generation, and said, ‘They always go astray in their heart; they have not known my ways.’ As I swore in my wrath, ‘They shall not enter my rest.’”
@kellysdad2326
4 күн бұрын
Good thing you've got out on that cultic KJV Only group....
@docbrown7513
5 күн бұрын
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it- the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
@B.A.D4Life
5 күн бұрын
What I did is unsubscribe from Right Response . In my opinion, JW has the same mentality as the IFB while pumping his reformed fist in the air. Again, in my opinion, “women not voting” as JW adheres to… well, he can have his views but women should vote because women are not 2nd class citizens in any Republic and I will add, if I treated my wife as if her thoughts and views didn’t matter and “WOMAN you will obey ME”( or vice versa)we would probably be divorced and not married for 22 years. Last of all, JW has picked up a social media following and people can be easily manipulated and influenced ….
@carolbarlow8896
5 күн бұрын
@@B.A.D4Life I believe in male leadership in the home and church but JW is hard to take. God bless you for sticking up for us ladies. I think I speak for others in saying that we really appreciate it. ❤️
@BrianRich1689
5 күн бұрын
JW?
@carolbarlow8896
5 күн бұрын
@@BrianRich1689 Joel Webbon
@B.A.D4Life
4 күн бұрын
@@BrianRich1689 Joel Webbon
@limpingllama57
4 күн бұрын
The difference being that Joel backs up his claims with scrupture and you use your opinion. Just because you don't like what he says doesn't mean it's wrong, because the scripture is very clear on the topic.
@sammy-n5d5g
Күн бұрын
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@mikedvirgilio1960
4 күн бұрын
Your assessment of "Christian nationalism" is not accurate. Nobody is calling for the tyrannical rule of a "Christian Prince." Show me one person who believes representative democracy (of whatever) kind is not compatible with a Christian nation. You set up the straw man and act like it's the real thing. It is not.
@pastorburris
4 күн бұрын
@mikedvirgilio1960 It is not a straw man. It is a fact. You wan an example of someone who is calling for a Christian monarchy? You want someone who says this constitutional republic doesn't work with the current state of America? I give you none other than Joel Webbon of @RightResponseMinistries. Joel Webbon @ 01:08:28 - "I'd rather have a Christian monarchy than our current state of affairs" kzitem.info/news/bejne/y4yKyKedn4p5n2k Start listening at the 01:12:00 mark and you will hear him describe his vision for a Christian Caesar. He goes on to say that he isn't for a coup or overthrowing the government, but that does not negate his desire for an authoritative figure governing from a position of theonomy over our current constitutional republic. In the video, "Why There’s No Going Back To The US Constitution - @AuronMacIntyre", at the 22:16 mark, he talks about the need for a Caesar-type. At 24:22, he speaks of how this Caesar-type would come to rule. Here is that link to that video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yHyQ342fiJheoII I strongly encourage you to do your research before you reply again, and I would highly encourage you to question your allegiance to this position.
@sammy-n5d5g
2 күн бұрын
Do YOU have a blind spot?
@pastorburris
2 күн бұрын
I pray if I do that the elders I have surrounded myself with will point it out and lovingly guide me in addressing it.
@locklug6612
4 күн бұрын
This is idiotic.
@pastorburris
4 күн бұрын
Do you have an actual refutation or do you wish to simply leave it at that?
@TheJpep2424
3 күн бұрын
Your comment is idiotic and refuted nothing.
@reachvictoria3386
4 күн бұрын
🙄
@pastorburris
3 күн бұрын
What a weak response.
@reachvictoria3386
3 күн бұрын
@@pastorburris within the first two minutes of your video you publicly label both Webbon and Isker as “antisemitic” and invoke the name of Hitler, and you call that loving.
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