Here I can see how serious and honorable this gentleman is❤
@thefuller
15 күн бұрын
I appreciate your sentiment. My brain read honorable as horrible and almost choked on my beer
@TheodoreBreaux
16 күн бұрын
Knowing which models are not worth the effort and expense is every bit as valuable as knowing which are, and thus videos like this are both insightful and important.
@VIctorCarruyo
16 күн бұрын
Keep em coming, love learning with this videos.
@travisbishop7212
16 күн бұрын
I can just feel the value of vintage JBL speakers decreasing as every minute of this video passes🤣
@danmarjenka6361
15 күн бұрын
Nah. Just the L56's
@jameshobbs1460
16 күн бұрын
Danny so long as you are as open as you are. Invite all your critics to come and see and talk to you. And realize that people are criticizing you to get clicks because lets be honest. People these days love to bitch and nit pick to get attention. Just keep putting out facts and recommendations. We will keep watching.
@_My.Name.Is.What_
16 күн бұрын
Nothing to add here! 👍
@stephenyoud6125
16 күн бұрын
He did invite other reviewers and only Chris from Vinyl Attack and Jay from Jay's Iyagi came to take the Pepsi challenge and enjoyed it (see their videos). But Amir from Audio Science Review and Gene DellaSalla WITH Audioholics were too lazy or Chicken $hit to do it. Sad. So sad. It seems they know better. Gene told me when I asked him that Danny already makes himself irrelevant because he dares to use cable lifters... Pathetic
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
@@morlidor Sorry, all of that is false.
@stephenyoud6125
16 күн бұрын
@@morlidor bravely said Armchair warrior. go tell that to the people who have done the mods and spoken here of the positive improvements made. If you care to watch his videos including the Tech talk series you'll understand a bit more about financial contraints made by Management accountants on production values and building things down to a price point. Just because its a big name brand doesnt mean their designs are infallible especially if they're putting just out of school new hire engineers on their budget brand models. If you have any data to the contrary I'm sure we'll all be glad to see it
@stephenyoud6125
16 күн бұрын
@@morlidor as he himself does with his own models. Why are you even watching these videos if you fundamentally disapprove of the approach?
@Mike81111
16 күн бұрын
For me that 900 Hz 5db dip is the deal breaker. When I saw this speaker with big woofer and no midrange I was like that's going to be a huge problem. And sure enough it was. Thanks to Danny for being so transpartent about it!
@chuckmaddison2924
14 күн бұрын
Late at nite after a lot of beer and chilli while the 49ers are winning, I don't think it matters.
@Mike81111
13 күн бұрын
@@chuckmaddison2924 Good party speakers :)
@mason7300
12 күн бұрын
A lot of people will cut that frequency.
@stonefree1911
16 күн бұрын
While I do look at some of this with a side-eye... the car analogy (upgrades) is a good point.
@DethFromAbove1985
16 күн бұрын
I think deadening a box and upgrading wiring, caps etc I think is a no-brainer. Especially on these oldies. They need new caps anyway because of the age so may as well get the good ones.
@johnbrender7635
15 күн бұрын
Hi Danny, There is a sound that these vintage JBL’s have that is very appealing. This particular model sounds very good as well as the L46 and They are very desirable on the market. I had a pair of these and loved them. It was one of the first sets of vintage JBL’s I picked up about 10 years ago and only sold it to get a pair of L100’s. One day I get one of your kits and listen for myself so I can hear what I’m missing.
@albanana683
14 күн бұрын
Looks like there are some easy homebrew tweaks for extra bracing, and some damping. Probably make a cool addition to a retro man cave. And if you're going fully vintage you'll already have a 10 band graphic equaliser to go with that Marantz receiver and 8-track cartridge player.
@Freedom89984
15 күн бұрын
I heard this speaker and it sounds not so bad. It’s not measuring very well but that doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it
@alanrogs3990
14 күн бұрын
If one can separate himself from never ending audiophile insanity then you can learn to accept decent speakers.
@cobar5342
15 күн бұрын
Another realistic analysis. This style has my respect
@1moderntalking1
16 күн бұрын
Oh Danny, ❤ ur work. Hey u teasing me with that bookshelf in the background - I cant wait to see what u got there. Plz do a long video on that one soon mate !
@dannyrichie9743
15 күн бұрын
Oh man, they are outstanding too. The vocal region and the imaging is among the best in the world. You guys will hear about them soon.
@ChicagoRob2
16 күн бұрын
Looks like the typical JBL ear-bleeder.
@CashGravel
16 күн бұрын
Not sure about that. They had the West Coast sound with a carved out mid range, and you could actually crank them without a lot of fatigue given the right room.
@intothevoid9831
16 күн бұрын
@@CashGravel Carved out mids? jbls? Every JBL ive heard has overly forward, harsh, ringy midrange and top end.
@billd9667
15 күн бұрын
Add Klipsch to that heritage. They made a couple of good speakers. Not a ringing endorsement considering their range. It really kills me how AR, Advent, Boston Acoustics, Snell and others got sold out and commoditized. What a waste of great design. Then there were others like Rectilinear and NEAR. Thiel’s loss was a knife in the heart. KLH might yet be saved. Time will tell. They need to keep two lines - consumer and audiophile ala Yamaha. That’s the only way to keep the name alive. It’s hard to believe that Shahanian Acoustics is still alive.
@CashGravel
15 күн бұрын
@@intothevoid9831 not in my era.
@alanrogs3990
14 күн бұрын
@@intothevoid9831 My JBL L55 speakers barely have any top end. 90% of everything goes to the woofer, it seems.
@ldwahl6678
14 күн бұрын
Superb garage speakers!
@CashGravel
16 күн бұрын
I had some two-way JBL large bookshelf speakers in the early 80s in my dorm room and I absolutely loved them, but I shutter to think how they would measure or compare to today’s speakers but like you said you were into the music and that’s what mattered
@ericmc6482
12 күн бұрын
Ya can't put lipstick on a pig lol
@davidp3096
16 күн бұрын
Regarding an upgrade or not always fascinating to see the technical performance using techniques never available when new
@glenncurry3041
16 күн бұрын
I have found it very interesting as you have confirmed what I have long thought of JBL. Just as your earlier Klipsch series. Though at least the K's, like L100 series, had some hope. All this, and my son buying some LS50Meta, has me dragging my old rep sample RTR EXP-8V out. Drivers, surrounds, ... look good. Have not powered them up yet. RTR was known as a manufacturer of good drivers. especially their electrostatic panels. I had their ESR6 - 6 panel super tweeter arrays until the panels shorted out as they were known to do. The EXP-8V's back plate is a joke though. It has a circuit breaker for the tweeter! a cheesy variable resistor for tweeter level. And cheap push in terminals. It was one of the better speakers back in the day regardless. So wondered what magic you could perform if the drivers are working. But doubt it worth your effort as there are likely few left out there that others would buy the upgrade kit for. Though probably more than my Goodman Elite rep samples!
@ThatGuyAM
15 күн бұрын
GREAT analogy with the car upgrades. Was planning on getting some elac unifis but I might just get some X-MTMs and a X-CS kit. WTHN?!?
@mikeschaper5039
13 күн бұрын
I know of one person who would be in denial about your measurements, on ANY JBL speaker. Much has been learned and applied to speaker manufacturing over the years, but the old JBL crowd will forever drag that chain with them to their grave 🤪
@patrickgrantham8800
15 күн бұрын
I'm intrigued by the speaker behind your right shoulder. Looks like a stretched encore with a little LGK driver......
@MrRonnmaui
16 күн бұрын
Great video! Have you tried to test and upgrade the Ohm Walsh speakers? I had a pair of the Walsh iV for 20 years and the sound was "fun" but poor quality components and cabinet work.
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
We have not.
@jimbo5728
15 күн бұрын
Please try out a Jensen 3152! We used to love ours back in the late 1980s early 90s. Curious how bad they were!!
@mdocod
15 күн бұрын
Swap that tweeter for a wide-band driver or a coax mid-tweeter?
@sgtjosozo
16 күн бұрын
I love the vintage vid's
@anthonyjackson7097
16 күн бұрын
JBL speakers have always been hit or miss. The old JBL L100 was a huge seller but was a joke as far as having a crossover. A 12" woofer playing without any type of filtering. The price JBL charged for speakers in the 70's & 80's was heidious to say the least. But let's be honest, back in those days, they couldn't measure a lot of these problems.
@Robert-ps8fj
15 күн бұрын
Audio measuring technology of 70's and 80's are not so advance compare today.....marketing strategy profitted them mostly during those time but now market attitude change...
@anthonyjackson7097
12 күн бұрын
@@Robert-ps8fj Agreed!
@kennethmcmillen1147
13 күн бұрын
Have you ever done Realistic Mach one yet? I know there's a level 1 upgrade but curious as to what you would do or if you could improve them.
@jeffsloane8628
15 күн бұрын
"..and the LS and the LSX." Ha ha. The hot roder in you is showing Danny! Have you ever done an upgrade where you added a driver as part of a kit? Say adding the driver from the LGK to this JBL and then x-over the tweeter to more of a supper tweeter >10k Hz?
@jasonmcdonald7187
15 күн бұрын
If you ever work on kef 104/2 will you olease do a video on them? Thanks!
@PersonalTriumph
15 күн бұрын
What does Danny mean by "stored energy"? Genuinely trying to learn. Thanks.
@Finite-Tuning
16 күн бұрын
Yep, couldn't agree more. For the most part though, if a speaker and cabinet are electrically and mechanically sound, there just ain't much that you 𝐜𝐚𝐧'𝐭 𝐟𝐢𝐱 with DSP now-a-days. Cheers 🍻🔊
@FOH3663
15 күн бұрын
Directivity Diffraction Break-up As long as the DSP piece is adequately transparent (absolutely vital), it can address time alignment, and the freq domain within the minimum phase region. But it can't help problems in directivity, diffraction and breakup.
@Finite-Tuning
15 күн бұрын
@@FOH3663 : You kids make so much noise!
@FOH3663
15 күн бұрын
@@Finite-Tuning Indeed! Kids? I'm an old dude.
@Finite-Tuning
15 күн бұрын
@@FOH3663: Yeah, me too, I'm still a kid at heart though.
@navy831ari
14 күн бұрын
I'm more interested in that T Shirt you have on.😂
@user-ve8ds9bg3c
16 күн бұрын
What dose a scan look like when the woofer breaks up?
@FoxTick
16 күн бұрын
I worked at a studio that had a pair of these in the control room. I mixed a handful of records on these very monitors and.....the mixes always turned out great! I guess if you can make a mix sound good on crappy speakers, it will sound good on other systems as well. Speaking of mixing on crappy speakers, I'm curious how Yamaha NS-10s would measure up.
@dannyrichie9743
15 күн бұрын
Both of those speakers are horrible for mixing with.
@FoxTick
15 күн бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 I have a pair of NS-10s in the garage. I'm tempted to send them to you just for fun, but I'm sure you've had enough with nightmare speakers for now. I can only imagine the spectral decay, though.
@dannyrichie9743
15 күн бұрын
@@FoxTick We've already designed an upgrade for that model.
@FoxTick
15 күн бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 Oh nice, I'll keep that in mind for a future project. Thanks for all you do!
@neilfisher7999
16 күн бұрын
I would like to see you send your finished version of the kit speakers you sell sent out to some reviewers to get their impressions. I did see a review from New Record Day, which was nice. How about getting a few more to do that? I like hearing from a variety of people in this hobby who are good at just describing how something sounds. Not endorsements or critiques, but simply laying out the qualities of the speakers. Everyone likes something different. I prefer a more vintage sound as an example, but other people don't. Neither is right or wrong.
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
I will be sending out some product to a few select reviewers, but don't expect me to send anything to anyone that doesn't have the means to listen to a speaker set up properly, in an actual listening room, and provide real feedback.
@neilfisher7999
16 күн бұрын
I understand. That being said, not all music lovers have the ability to have a dedicated listening room. My setup is in my living room. That's just the real world for most people. I do, however, have it set up in a way that caters to listening to music. But I understand a reviewer should have a listening room for the best results.
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
@@neilfisher7999 Many of our customers have less than ideal rooms, and they can still really enjoy our products. Reviewers need to be able to express the capabilities of a product, and for that they need to be able to hear they they are capable of.
@cbts0029
16 күн бұрын
also a big JBL resonator.... spend it to JBL, possible they have a vintagearchive
@luisrodriguez8639
16 күн бұрын
The tweeter gives a nice response but the woofer is not good from 600 to 3k
@genaishivatov1737
16 күн бұрын
I’ve never understood two-way crafts of Tannoy - in which a 12-inch woofer weighing 70g is connected to a two-inch tweeter (which doesn’t play anything at 12K) 😆
@hom2fu
16 күн бұрын
are you trying to say Klipsch 2 way tower speaker are junk too.
@alfonsodelafreg259
16 күн бұрын
@@hom2fu They are.
@grumpy9478
16 күн бұрын
Danny, does it make any sense (is it even possible) to convert this speaker to a near-subwoofer role by addressing the cabinet, modding the xor & bypassing the tweeter entirely? matched to an appropriate set of small monitors (light on bass) it might have a longer, useful career... w/ impact.
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
You could remove the woofer and use it for a sub woofer by placing it in a well made box and tuning it properly. It should give good output down to the mid to low 30's. Then again, there are other woofer that could be used for a sub that will give better results.
@grumpy9478
15 күн бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 food for thought for those of us w/ drivers laying around - thx!
@jimhutton2390
15 күн бұрын
Have you looked at a JBL J320?
@user-ve8ds9bg3c
16 күн бұрын
what about the century L-100 by JBL?
@reremaker
16 күн бұрын
JBL L100 Century Speakers ???? most sold. any suggestions on build on filters.
@intothevoid9831
16 күн бұрын
Get a different speaker. The L100 is hopeless.
@jogmas12
16 күн бұрын
Is it really that perfect?
@outboardfun3353
16 күн бұрын
Do you remember. Have you ever had A JBL L15 in for upgrade. It the same year of this l56 but is a 6.5 2-way
@hoth2112
15 күн бұрын
We've not yet gotten that model in.
@ontherun8
15 күн бұрын
Even better a pair of L19, the golden baby JBL of those years (and never bettered later IMO)
@jamestimmons6022
16 күн бұрын
something like that i would just gut it out, buy new quality drivers, use that online crossover calculator to make a new crossover then but decent caps ,resistors,inductors..stiffen up the enclosure and have a nice speaker...unless you already paid a fortune for them lol
@imqqmi
16 күн бұрын
There's plenty space for a midrange speaker, maybe the customer could hack in a midrange, then redesign the x over. But then at that price you'd better spend it on new speakers I guess.
@jmilton5842
16 күн бұрын
What about just replacing the connections and putting some no rez in the cabinet?
@dannyrichie9743
15 күн бұрын
You could....
@johnshaw359
16 күн бұрын
Jolly Big Loudspeakers.
@hugogaldames4156
13 күн бұрын
When you "fix" each speaker the way you do,do they end up sounding the same? Do any of them have a sound signature, character or style?
@dannyrichie9743
9 күн бұрын
None of them sound the same. Think of the measurements as a measure of accuracy, and not how they sound.
@dannyrichie9743
9 күн бұрын
Check out this review and listen to the sound clips. kzitem.info/news/bejne/1o2rnmxpjJqriJwsi=GWQlpPXQuaPkF0n9 These speakers are designed by me. They are in the same series. They use the same tweeter and mid-bass drivers. They both have the same top level parts. However, they sound a little different. What is really stunning is how close they sound to the original signal. Now that is accuracy!
@Philip-xk5ui
16 күн бұрын
I can look at your hair and tell you have to beat it into submission! It's so thick and resilient. A hairdressers nightmare!
@dannyrichie9743
15 күн бұрын
Actually I just rub some Alvera gel through it and go. I don't even dry it.
@klm404
16 күн бұрын
Maybe replace the tweeter with the LGK driver?
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
The woofer sensitivity is a little high to match it to the LGK. We do have something special along those lines coming though. So hang on.
@briantayes2418
15 күн бұрын
Is that a band new model behind you!
@dannyrichie9743
15 күн бұрын
It is, and it is over the top incredible. I can't wait to tell you guys about it.
@CarlVanDoren61
16 күн бұрын
Magnepan started X program 😮 Upgrade 20.7s is $8k, plus shipping
@jameshobbs1460
16 күн бұрын
Do what? Your comment is very confusing?
@VIctorCarruyo
16 күн бұрын
They should just ship them fixed from the factory. Its better to ship them to Danny for the upgrade. If he does not have a kit.
@glenncurry3041
16 күн бұрын
Yes their new X series approach. Selling the panels without an internal crossover and the individual sets of foil / ribbon brought to terminals for external crossover, multi-amping...
@Old_Sailor85
16 күн бұрын
@@jameshobbs1460 Magnepan is offering an optional "upgrade" on some new speakers. Pretty expensive option.
@CarlVanDoren61
16 күн бұрын
$30k for 20.7x @@VIctorCarruyo
@jdlech
16 күн бұрын
$250 floormats. (Upgrades I will never pay for)
@billd9667
16 күн бұрын
I always suspected that the west coast speaker makers had their heads up their butts. People made fun of the east coasters because the speakers were “unexciting”, but IMO, they were much better for fatigue-free listening
@edjackson4389
16 күн бұрын
Well, one was more focused on rocking the party and the other was more about easy listening. There are plenty of models from both coasts that I love for different reasons
@CashGravel
16 күн бұрын
@@edjackson4389 totally agree
@intothevoid9831
16 күн бұрын
Very true. Advent, Bozak, Acoustic Research, ect were vastly better than their west coast competitors.
@billd9667
15 күн бұрын
Well, the west coasters were great at parties, but they were not for taking home to your mother ☺️
@DodgyBrothersEngineering
15 күн бұрын
Sometimes, broken is just broken.
@akhtarizod5802
16 күн бұрын
These old junk selling hot now a days ! Like vinyl!
@alanrogs3990
14 күн бұрын
Settle downs!
@TriAmpHiFi
16 күн бұрын
. 👍 .
@user-ve8ds9bg3c
16 күн бұрын
Dose anyone know anything about Canton Karat 300?
@sloboat55
16 күн бұрын
Worst spectral decay graph I've seen in your vids. I would love to see the charts and graphs on my Capped and Rezzed Pedest'ale Tower speakers. Thanks, Danny
@crtgamer2355
16 күн бұрын
Maybe a dumb question, but won't all the speakers you fix sound more or less the same after you give them your treatment? Basically what I'm asking is, do the speakers you fix still retain some unique characteristics from one to another or does giving them the treatment make them all sound "samey".
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
Even after the upgrades they all sound different from each other.
@crtgamer2355
16 күн бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 That's what I thought, just wanted to confirm, thanks.
@miheadhurts
16 күн бұрын
Hi Danny, have you seen the Purifi speakers from Denmark? They have some of the lowest distortion measurements out there. I love to see you make a high-end bookshelf speaker with them. You mate from New record day reviewed some.
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
We've tried them, and we have done some design work with them. We also designed a crossover for a commercial speaker that is using them.
@Starch1b2c3d4a
16 күн бұрын
Guy probably said throw it in the trash, got it for 5 bucks in a garage sale...
@larrygaines7462
15 күн бұрын
The rubber stamp says Not economical to repair... NETR
@intothevoid9831
16 күн бұрын
Junky But Loud strikes again!
@l0zerth
16 күн бұрын
Again, JBL, what did you really expect?
@dougmallory2600
16 күн бұрын
trade the port for the tweeter
@BostonMike68
16 күн бұрын
I think it's just a 2 way it has a tweeter but maybe use a dome mid on the other side? But he probably doesn't want to totally change the design or he needs to sell some kits
@Mark-lq3sb
16 күн бұрын
Why do some people think when you talk about a particular model from a manufacture that all models from that manufacture are poor? Do you believe in that Danny?
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
No, some of those companies, whose product we get in, have higher end line that are better made.
@gabeo.731
16 күн бұрын
So you can't fix it?
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
I can't fix that woofer break up problem.
@Philip-xk5ui
16 күн бұрын
It's like american native hair ,just impossible to make do anything.
@chuckmaddison2924
14 күн бұрын
Rolls Royce doesn't offer a base model.
@_My.Name.Is.What_
16 күн бұрын
Until this day I’ve never heard a good sounding JBL product 🤷🏻♂️
@l0zerth
16 күн бұрын
There are a handful of classic JBL's that are good, but you could probably count them all on one hand.
@craigellsworth3952
16 күн бұрын
@_My.Name.Is.What_ The L212 was a fine speaker. And no, I did not own one
@_My.Name.Is.What_
15 күн бұрын
@@morlidor nope. And also to be completly honest I haven’t listen every product, so I’m not judging… but what I have heard was 5-6/10 🤷🏻♂️
@_My.Name.Is.What_
15 күн бұрын
@@morlidor yes, I agree. If I’ll ever hear something I like from them I’ll be happy to change my mind but for now it is like it is 👍 cheers ✌️
@ontherun8
15 күн бұрын
A very fine speaker system indeed, pity they didn't put in a more performing /powerful amp driving the sub... wonderful woofer unit actually.
@wendellgayheart9228
15 күн бұрын
The thing about it is …it’s the way you talk down about every other company…even though you know what you’re talking about when it comes to speakers …stop putting people down with head and eye rolls and the cheesy comments about other peoples products please …a true person just doesn’t do that imo
@davidcross890
15 күн бұрын
Not everyone in The Real World gets a gold star
@JoshsGadgetsandMore
16 күн бұрын
At some point audiophiles should quit listening to their speakers and start listening to the music. I've discovered great songs on the crapiest department store speakers, and hated songs that were played in top of the line B&W speakers.
@Corndog642
16 күн бұрын
That’s kind of like saying car enthusiasts should just stop worrying about performance and focus on driving from point a to point b.
@JoshsGadgetsandMore
15 күн бұрын
@@Corndog642 some car enthusiasts do fall into the trap. They become so focused on squeezing every last bit of horse power that they forget to enjoy the ride. I think every enthusiast hobby has that trap.
@gdwlaw5549
16 күн бұрын
You didn’t upgrade your wife 😊
@dannyrichie9743
16 күн бұрын
I did once. I have had this one for 32 years and will stick with this one until the wheels fall off.
@gdwlaw5549
16 күн бұрын
@@dannyrichie9743 join the club then….my ex kept my old loudspeaker! Dali audio ….the crossover needed upgrading :-)
@johnsonadekunle7675
16 күн бұрын
I know you love soccer just like me. Are you watching Euro 2024?
@dannyrichie9743
15 күн бұрын
I will be.
@jasontimothywells9895
16 күн бұрын
JB&L was the name my family used , J ust B ig & L oud , pure garbage,
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