This is a reupload. I accidentally uploaded the wrong version the first time and didn't catch the mistake until the video was already up. Edit: And, embarrassingly, my God of War instincts kicked in and I accidentally pronounced "Midgar" as "Midgard" in the video, so make sure to let me know about that in the comments as much as possible.
@Blacksmith679
6 ай бұрын
What's the mistake, at what time
@fatbrett
6 ай бұрын
@@Blacksmith679 It was a different version of the same script. It was messier and more repetitive. The information was the same, but the writing wasn't as good. The only mistake was clicking on the wrong file when I went to upload and not doublechecking afterwards.
@isaacsanford6340
6 ай бұрын
I feel like you do a better job in your essays than many, which I think is why I subscribed. The subject matter is sometimes covered elsewhere, but your writing voice flows better. 👍
@dominiqueodom3099
6 ай бұрын
Is there any chance you'd do a villian breakdown of Zeus and Greek Pantheon from the God of War series?
@Blacksmith679
6 ай бұрын
Can you do indie game villain breakdowns
@shaifs5072
6 ай бұрын
Cait Sith’s line about not forgetting him even if another shows up makes me think of Jung’s concept of the Persona. The mask we wear, it’s how we interact with the world. It is who we are and also not. When people pretend to be something they are not, that still comes from within, it is driven by something very real. If a person makes up a story about their childhood being rough they seek empathy and to be comforted, if they try to pretend to be smart, they wish to be respected, if a person pretends to be cool, they wish to be admired, etc.
@marche800
6 ай бұрын
One of the clearest example of how destructive Shinra and the reactors are is the environment around Midgar. It is a total wasteland in a perfect circle around the city. Outside that circle there is grass and trees and wildlife. Inside that circle, desolation. It's like Midgar itself is a massive mechanical tick sucking the life out of everything around it.
@malucoblz588
5 ай бұрын
To be fair, thats usually the case for all power generating facilities, even green ones, from what i see midgar is primarily a "worker city", that is everyone there is meant to keep the reactors running which in turn sends energy to areas like kalm which have the benefots of mako but dont suffer from the downsides.
@blackfox4138
6 ай бұрын
I know a lot of people claim that the game kinda goes off the rails when Sephiroth and Jenova become a factor in the story--that being it goes from a commentary of unchecked corporate greed to just another fantasy story. However, I would argue that it all still falls in line with the problems regarding corporations. Sephiroth and Jenova are direct results of Shinra's unchecked greed. If we're going by the idea that 7 is working off of ideas regarding corporations and climate change, then Sephiroth, Jenova, and the Weapons are all the result of what happenes when corporations lose control. If anything, the plot going so off the rails actually makes a lot of sense for the narrative they're working with.
@shanliekpop
6 ай бұрын
Exactly it's all connected. Like if Shina is an allegory for our government, Sephiroth could be an allegory to the Nuclear bomb in the 90's. Sephiroth is the evil our corporations and Countries create that someday can no longer be controlled and outgrow their creators. 20 years later today and Shira's greed is very on point with our current struggle with capitalism, and Sephiroth/ Jenova are alike to the threat AI could possess once it manages to think freely for itself.
@mrbubbles6468
6 ай бұрын
It could also be srgued that Seph and Jenova are like the weapons another example of the planet fixing making a choice. If we can’t save it then it has choosen to completely restart itself.
@MilkyWayGrump
6 ай бұрын
Id also say that even if it deviates from the economic side of corporate greed/overreach, Sephiroth's motivation still very much speaks to the fascist-esque compartmentalization and rank-based subjugation and dehumanization of people under corporate rule. Sephiroth was raised to be a perfect soldier, and in his mind, that means his only use as a person, and his true destiny, is literally just whatever the people who made him great/came before him have planned for him. When he first figures out that he's the son of Genova, he doesn't stop to re-examine his values or how he should be conducting himself with others all that much, his number one priority is "What is my new mission? If my old bosses aren't the boss of me, what does my REAL mom/boss want me to be doing?", which speaks to how his mind is wired. This works very well for Shinra, who have Sephiroth believing that they "molded" him into this soldier, and thus he should be following their orders without question... that is, until he finds out where he (thinks he) REALLY came from, Jenova, and that soldier-esque, collectivist, respect-your-elders-and-bosses-always-no-matter-what way of thinking totally backfires on everyone once the "leader" Sephiroth ends up thinking he needs to follow ends up being a genocidal space alien with powers and ambitions Shinra cannot control. Because frankly, I dont think you can tell a story about the intersection of corporate greed/corruption/control and identity WITHOUT exploring that idea of "toeing the company line" and the societal expectation to obey the orders of those who say you owe everything to them without question. I think that Reeve/Cait Sith also explore this idea a bit, with Reeve realizing he's in too deep but too afraid to leave his post for whatever fears he may have, so he has to construct another simulacrum of himself in order to externalize his rebellion and assuage his guilt for participating in the system.
@marche800
6 ай бұрын
@mrbubbles6468 I don't know if I can agree with that full. Jenova and Sephiroth are undeniably hostile towards the planet and humans. They are a third part but one that was created due to Shinra's attempt to control and conquer nature. The consequence of their obsessiveness with conquering nature and anyone opposed to them resulted in the accidentally awakening a being that will destroy everything but in their ignorance they decided to toy with that power making their situation infinitely worse. The verh Nature of Jenova, Sephiroth and their plan are all inherently other and parasitic. They are planning on fatally wounding the planet using a materia to summon a mass of rock from space. Their purpose in the story is to be a mutual enemy that encourages man and nature to work together to protect each other. Which might be the reason the lifestream spares humanity. Our party defeats Sephiroth and the planet stops Meteor.
@marche800
6 ай бұрын
@@mrbubbles6468I don't agree. Jenova and Sephiroth are hostile and parasitic to the planet. They are the result of shinra's hubris but pose a threat outside of the planet and humanities conflict. They exidr in the story to force the two to work together. They only survive meteor because the party defears sephiroth and the planet summons Holy.
@sykune
6 ай бұрын
When you bring up clouds strength coming from his relantionships. It reminds me of AC when Cloud locks sword with sephiroth and ge he replies with "oh where did you find this strength?" Implying that sephiroth was clueless as to where Cloud gets his strength to opose him. He also asked him "to tell me what you cherish most so I may take it away." Sephiroth whole power is to cause dispair.
@bradhorowitz2765
6 ай бұрын
Is it corny? Sure. Is advant children good? Not exactly but sometimes the movie really got key story points right. The gang in the end DIDNT defeat sephiroth to save the planet exactly. They admit that they have their PERSONAL reasons. But all share one contributing factor (aerith, its revenge time). Their relationships make them better. As for sephiroth, it’s fascinating. It’s debatable if Jenova is “alive.” So sephiroth, who actually shows a shocking yet creepy attachment to his “biological” mother may not have that close relationship. I mean jenova can’t compliment him or call him out. If Jenova alive this raises more questions. 1)is jenova controlling sephiroth? 2)is jenova so evil that she’s letting her son commit these atrocities? None of these options are positive and shows how sephiroth can’t fathom strong bonds. Either way, the one winged angel grew up as a mere tool, never given any real semblance of kindness, never could bond with others, always told he was superior, and even when he was with people who did make him feel “human” it never lasted, possibly because of professionalism, the idealization of him to others (he was widely known as a hero so no one ever really knew him), and his own inability to truly like humans.
@sykune
6 ай бұрын
@@bradhorowitz2765 oddly enough sephiroth is in a abusive relantionship with Jenova on one hand she maybe controlling him, however it's likely the other way around he literally makes Jenova take his Form. So who is controlling who. As for bonds their was Angeal and Gensis, to which he show some comadrie but in the end he turned his back on them both, genesis even asked him to save him by giving him his cells and Sephiroth said No. I would agree his supiority complex made it virtually impossible for him to form lasting bonds. However sephiroth and Cloud share a bond, one in cells the other is harder to explain Kingdom hearts tries to explain that sephiroth is a representation. Of cloud dark side or perhaps whats he is fighting not to become. They are two sides of the same coin essentially. As one youtube video stated The legacy of the pride of a soldier (Angeal/Zack) and the legacy of a Monster (Sephiroth)
@tabbofii
4 ай бұрын
The cringe anime power of friendship, ugh
@RaineAvina
6 ай бұрын
"I wish the new games could capture the absurdity and silliness that the old games had." The new game has Red XIII dance out dressed as a Shrina soldier on a cruise ship and challenge you to a card game. Remake had Cloud go to a gay bar, dance against the owner, do FAR BETTER than anyone would have expected, and then crossdress on stage. The new games literally jack up the absurdity to 11 at every opportunity xD
@liammcnicholas918
6 ай бұрын
There’s music just for finding a dog
@andrewramirez3998
6 ай бұрын
Ikr if anything they just dialed the ridiculous parts to the max lol
@ericbright1742
6 ай бұрын
FF7 had Hojo on the beach. FF7R had Hojo being Hojo on the beach. The Synergy Abilities also have a lot of fun, and allow the characters to show off. Anything with Tifa is absolutely chaotic, with either her throwing something at the enemy, or her _being_ thrown at the enemy. Anything with Cait Sith is absolutely demented, like the Mayhem-Go-Round with Barret, or Aerith deciding to "embiggen" (sic) the Moogle only to cower as it starts mashing the bad guys. Barret and Aerith standing back-to-back with sunglasses. Tifa spiking the Moogle doll like a volleyball. The Moogle doll cradling Red XIII in its arms. Barret recreating FFVIII's Angelo Cannon with Red XIII. Even Cloud gets in on the fun when he flings Tifa at them, or just hands over his sword to the Moogle doll and hops on. There is a lot of whimsy in this game, and I love it. Now if you'll excuse me, Cloud needs to go stop Hojo being Hojo, with an oversized beach parasol.
@manuelmialdea5127
6 ай бұрын
Exactly! If anything we got even more than we expected in this regard.
@ericbright1742
6 ай бұрын
Cloud has parried a motorcycle with his Buster Sword.
@reun1clus
6 ай бұрын
I played the game when I was 6-10 but only finished the first 2 parts. I was 23 when I revisited the originals to finally complete the game and appreciate how amazing the game and story really was. I’m grateful the remakes are being done and I love that you are doing an analysis for one of my favorite games of all time Commenting again for the algorithm
@HunterStiles651
6 ай бұрын
Dude. I honestly can't even imagine a bigger "Common Consoomer L" than buying Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. You bought the inappropriately named "Remake", which is the first 6 hours of the original bloated to 40 with endless amounts of filler content and has the expectation that you've played the original, and having been through that once thought "I think I'll buy into this scam a *second* time."
@M1sterE321
6 ай бұрын
Your comment is a massive L. Yes, you should have played the original game, but it isn't necessary. It takes some special liberties but the series is very well done and does the original justice.
@HunterStiles651
6 ай бұрын
@@M1sterE321 I mean no offense, but the Remake Project could be the second coming of *Jesus* (which it isn't) and splitting what was originally one game into three separate full price releases is still a hard sell. You Square Enix corpo-fans need to raise your standards is the problem. You went gaga for Final Fantasy XVI too, praising it as a bastion of anti-wokeness for doing the absolute bare minimum.
@M1sterE321
6 ай бұрын
@HunterStiles651 Raise our standards? What is wrong with it? The fact that the original story was split into 3 games? I applaud that decision. Their dream would have been rushed to present it all in one game. That would have led to messy results. Would have been a massive letdown. And who said FFXVI was anti-woke? It's not anti-woke. It just lacks noticeable woke elements, which is how entertainment media should be.
@HunterStiles651
6 ай бұрын
@@M1sterE321 Whatever man. You believe whatever you want to believe. You bought Final Fantasy VII Rebirth so no matter how many times you're given the choice there's not a doubt in my mind that you'll take the Blue Pill every time. I'm just glad that idiots like you are the vocal minority and most people see this travesty for what it is, judging by the sales.
@Born2b4everMe
6 ай бұрын
"Sephiroth's insane mako-nations" lol. Solid pun 24:40
@nightmare0xranmabloodedge122
6 ай бұрын
Final Fantasy VII had some crazy signs and hints. Square did an astounding job.
@sidg868
6 ай бұрын
There's a somewhat minor detail on the remakes that I love that emphasizes how Avalanche are just as separated from nature as the rest of Midgar. On Rebirth, the first time you aproach a Deer only Cloud and Red XIII kniw what it is. And then Red has to explain the rest the difference between a wild animal and a Fiend.
@bradhorowitz2765
6 ай бұрын
…you know for all of the problems of the remakes/sequels (and no this didn’t make them any less good I mean what game is perfect? None! AHA). But that’s such a fascinating detail. Makes sense as Barrett’s greatest flaw is his inability to think long term (he does eventually and he will always remain one of ff’s greatest heroes). But what would he actually accomplish with avalanche? A group of ragtag rebels who are outgunned outmanned with LESS fighting experience. I mean if cloud didn’t join them in the very first mission they would have died.
@malucoblz588
5 ай бұрын
Glad i wasnt the only one who noticed Barret's Avalanche...carelessness, IMO the whole group just uses the catchphrase of saving the planet as an excuse to actively hurt Shinra
@BIGBODYDARWIN
6 ай бұрын
This channel is so slept on bro I really can’t believe it
@amharbinger
6 ай бұрын
Taken at just FF7 I agree with you on Cloud's analysis but after playing Crisis Core I would disagree. Granted this is added information but I would argue that Cloud's skill was also due to his improved confidence thanks to Zack's positivity. Zack took Cloud under his wing and gave Cloud the confidence to trust in his skills, seeing something in Cloud. Until the scene where Cloud attacks Sephiroth we see how weak and undeserving he feels but then when confronting Sephiroth picks up the Buster Sword, which is no small task. The weapon is huge and requires a great deal of strength to use but lifts it with ease, showing what Zack saw in Cloud that no one did; the strength of a SOLDIER. But most importantly he attacks Sephiroth, something that would require a great amount of emotional strength. It runs parallel to your discussion about identity and relationships with others. Cloud always had the strength to be better and found it with the help of Zack to unlock that part of himself and the rest of the party helping Cloud accept both versions of himself.
@wmen48
6 ай бұрын
You're right but the thing is OG Cloud, Aerith and Zack are different characters than in the rest ff7 universe. And with Kitase stating that OG is a complete story we have this branching off. Aerith isn't that holier than though character. She is street savvy, more down too earth. She's over Zack seeing him as a womanizer that he was. Zack talks about many girls in japanese version. Is with shinra until they put him in a test tube. After that his motivation in life is money. He never had that honor pledge like in CC. Only really redeeming quality, is him helping Cloud. He is a character similar to Tseng or Reno. Cloud doesn't see himself as Zacks legacy. And later he and Tifa fix his mind. Which lead to him accepting himself, Aerith sacrifice and stating he fights for planet first. His AC version stands clearly counter to this. CC Zack is a great character. Better than current Cloud probably. The only thing is, I think they had to water down Cloud a bit to make the gap between them bigger to make Zack stand out. Though I think it's dumb seeing his later power boost.
@joeblanquie3561
6 ай бұрын
Cloud is "clouded" by trauma, and deep down, all that he wants to be is there, and we see it before he gets jenova cells into him. I absolutley love is arc, and i really hope they nail it home in part 3. Wasn't a huge fan of how evil they made him act towards the end but I guess that's the fleshing out. He hid the black materia in OG right? I think before they get to northern crater he realizes he's lost it and gives it to TIfa? Then Jenova tricks Tifa? I have to replay it now
@LordMalice6d9
3 ай бұрын
@wmen48 I preferred Cloud as he was presented in the original FFVII by itself. The lated FFVII compilations added unnecessary additional character traits to his character that probably were not needed.
@sunayocarissime5309
6 ай бұрын
31:00 Yeah it kind of reminds me of that movie The Core when Beck says, "NOT THE WHOLE WORLD JOSH...just three of them," referring to what Serge said at one point. Serge himself says, "I came here to save my wife and my two children and... seven billion lives... it's too much. I just hope I'm, I'm smart enough and brave enough to save three." Saving an entire planet can be overwhelming and sometimes the microcosm is more relatable. Sometimes its the small things that are more important.
@crystalstone1290
5 ай бұрын
Very nice video but I'm a little disappointed there was no Yuffie in here. She was a literal child that witnessed war and death, and had to flee her home, watch her friend die right in front of her eyes. A lot of people forget that just because she has a happy go lucky facade but she's such a deep character. I hope you analyse sometime her character! But once again very nice video! I subscribed!
@SLRModShop
19 күн бұрын
She stole all my materias, fµck her
@shanliekpop
6 ай бұрын
This was super well organized and fun to watch. I recently revisited the 1997 game getting ready for the Rebirth and even after all these years the original game has so many relevant topics about ourselves and our society that mirror the real world today.
@latima123ify
6 ай бұрын
I was confused about tifa and cloud's relationship but rebirth helped clarify it. They definitely weren't super close but they did hang out enough to form crushes on each other
@Mavuika_Gyaru
6 ай бұрын
You might wanna play the OG game if you really wanna know. Or wait for the 3rd game to come out in maybe 4 years
@isaacsanford6340
6 ай бұрын
They were acquainted in youth, and Cloud admired her from a distance. One of the cutscenes from the original game showcases them having a close talk once before he runs off to join SOLDIER, where he alludes to his feelings, and she gets it. Later on he returns to Nibelheim with Zack and Sephiroth, and keeps his face covered because he's ashamed of his lack of achievement within the program, but he had already sworn to protect Tifa just the same. The events of Nibelheim take place, and if I'm not mistaken he is present to see Tifa being thrown away from Sephiroth at which point he is indeed the one to step up, get impaled by Masamune, and then impossibly lift and throw Sephiroth into the Nibelheim reactor pit, which I believe Tifa remembers by the first act of the game. By the end of the first game, the developers tried to make it clear with their limited mechanical toolset via the PS1 that Cloud and Tifa consummate a long-held mutual affinity and attraction before venturing into the crater in the north. Remember, by that time, Tifa had already been inside Cloud's mind, and was responsible for spear-heading his recovery and the re-integration of his identity.
@Mavuika_Gyaru
6 ай бұрын
@@isaacsanford6340how about you don't freaking spoil?
@isaacsanford6340
6 ай бұрын
@@Mavuika_Gyaru The game has been out for 27 years, and has been heralded as the very best of it's genre, and possibly the best of it's time. I may as well avoid spoiling the Lord of The Rings- -the ring is cast into Mt. Doom.
@Mavuika_Gyaru
6 ай бұрын
@@isaacsanford6340 got it, you're just low iq
@robertolimas19
6 ай бұрын
Every time I see there is a new video I know it’s going to be a sweet ride to work and back
@tyrantravealpha
6 ай бұрын
The crazy thing about Cloud, is that despite so many people say cloud is weak, he had the potential, he needed something that could unleash that, it just happened to be Jenova Cells and Mako. He starts out believing he is essentially Zack (but still himself). With his knowledge of Zack, and his new enhancements he then has the capability to be the soldier he always wanted to be. By the end of their journey, Cloud develops that strength through not only hardship, but because of the growth his companions provide him as well. He shows his strength again in Advent Children when he defeats Sephiroth on his own.
@devasprime6700
6 ай бұрын
"Believe you can, and you're halfway there." ~Teddy Roosevelt That thought explains a lot of Cloud's capabilities and achievements, and it is one of my favorite quotes that I take to heart in my own life.
@TheJpnsf
6 ай бұрын
Definitely my favorite game. Looking forward to Cloud's vid
@marche800
6 ай бұрын
In the conflict between the Planet and Humanity, Jenova and Sephiroth act as a third party, a mutual enemy that neither force can handle alone. They are a necessary factor in the story becuase they force the planet and humanity to work together to survive, which is the ultimate message of the game. Shinra's Machinations and the Planet's retaliation are meaningless before the total cosmic annihilation posed by Jenova and Sephiroth. The planet ultimately only pulls through because Humanity, in the form of the party, are able to band together and kill Sephiroth so that the Planet can summon Holy to protect itself. In this context Sephiroth is particularly interesting because he is a combination of all three forces. He was conceived naturally and give a soul by the planet but was genetically modified by humanity using the alien dna of the extraterrestrial parasite Jenova.
@malucoblz588
5 ай бұрын
Here's hoping the next game emphasizes more on the need for team human( represented by Rufus Shinra) and team nature(Cloud and co.) to coexist.
@pixelgoat7317
6 ай бұрын
I await the stupidly long video on Cloud; these lectures are so intriguing and give me something to paint to :D
@shenloken2
6 ай бұрын
Keep the FF 7 content coming! I loved this and your Sephiroth vids! Hope you cover all the other main characters.
@Fugazity
6 ай бұрын
I always was under the impression that Cloud could snap form his first catatonic state after Jenova cells in him read Tifas mind and influence Cloud to remember a false memory of him being Zack, this also affected Tifas memories as well in a lesser way. When Cloud tells the story about what happen in Nibelhim with Sephirot in Kalm town, Tifa was listening, but she didn't tell then Cloud was not there as he said, because she never meet him, but he knew so many details of what happen she got scared, she literally said that something told her to keep quiet or something terrible will happen, and so she did. That was Jenovas influence making her unable to talk. was only after he enter in his second catatonic state, when they both fall into the life-stream that his and Tifas connection to Jenova was lost for good, and so Cloud together with Tifa could truly remember who he was.
@machi536
6 ай бұрын
cloud is not cold and emontionless with tifa, shes the first person hes nice to when you first play the game, cloud only finds his real self with tifas help in the lifestream because shes the only one that really knows him then he reveals he did it all to be worthy of her
@Keyatzin
6 ай бұрын
I didn't even play the game, but I really dig your breakdowns, analysis, and deep dives into themes and character.
@harrisparrish9336
6 ай бұрын
Does anyone else hear “Cloud Antifa” when he says “Cloud and Tifa”?
@Dgamer-kq5kt
6 ай бұрын
I literally was just watching your villain video about Sephiroth this morning and then you give me this 😂
@sarringtoniv
6 ай бұрын
It's always seemed to me that the only perspective narration of Clouds past that we have is Cloud himself and Jenova ("Sephiroth") trying to manipulate him. So we don't actually really know what happened for sure.
@FortressWolf97
6 ай бұрын
I think it's also worth pointing out that Rufus Shinra has his own identity crisis as well. He wants glory and praise because he wants to surpass his father. He hates having to live in his father's shadow, so he looks for the Promised Land to mark his crowning achievement. When that failed, he then made it his mission to destroy Meteor, but only because he wants the glory of being seen as a hero. Rufus isn't your average corporate CEO. He legitimately wants Midgard to see him as the incredible man. Money is only secondary to his true motives.
@any4448
4 ай бұрын
Just the way you summed it up right at the beginning sold it for me
@Lady_Omni
6 ай бұрын
FF7 is a damn near direct allegory for our planet
@billhanshaw8297
Ай бұрын
Maybe we sometimes forget that Aerith had a mother who was A Cettra and I do remember that her name was Ifauna and she was first mentioned In the original classic release! She tragically died at The train station where Aerith was discovered by the kind heartedness of A woman who was recently windowed during the War! I it's just amazing how deep the depth of the story that this classic legendary story is still making A very powerful Inprint on people's imanginations even today❤
@billygilmusic5072
3 ай бұрын
The story of FF7 is THE most relevant and important story being told in recent times in all of media. I wish Square would make a movie that tells the complete story.
@yamatostwitcharchives3327
6 ай бұрын
This is going to sound a little bit funny but the first half when we speak about the company shinra I instantly think of The lorax. Especially how Barrett acts towards shinra forgetting that the Earth is also a living being a in the resources that we take from her could kill and destroy the environment
@memes3751
6 ай бұрын
This guys channel just don’t miss
@steelcurtain187
6 ай бұрын
You’ve done an amazing job with these past few videos on this game. Really enjoying listening to them 😎
@Rhomagus
6 ай бұрын
The story of Shinra is not the pursuit of greed. It's the abuse of power. At no point, are there any Shinra representatives doing the things they do for the pursuit of profit. Our main villains care nothing of money because they already have access to anything they want. Their only pursuit is power. Which makes them less corporate and more akin to an empire, and if there is any repeat theme throughout the entirety of the franchise it is the inherent evil of empire and power consolidation. "They do not care about making sure these resources will be available to future generations." Mako energy is not a form of energy to be reserved for future generations. Mako is not a metaphor for oil. Oil is not refined in a reactor. Mako is the very spirit of nature itself. The moral or warning of the story is that those who abuse it or try to circumvent the natural order do so at their own ultimate peril. The pursuit and abuse of power is what connects Sephiroth, Hojo, and Shinra, not corporate greed.
@bradhorowitz2765
6 ай бұрын
I think it’s somewhat like corporate greed because none of the Shinra executives accept that their lives are all they got. True they don’t care about wealth as first but really..if they didn’t then why build their tributes, show off their stuff to others? I mean the corporate structure allowed these individuals to accumulate their hearts greedy needs. If it wasn’t mako it was gonna be another resource. And the whole “they won’t leave anything behind,” yeah a corporation rarely has an incentive to be better (not all but too Many don’t. It’s why recycling turned out to be a big marketing ploy or why garbage is accumulated so much). Shinra is willing to destroy everything just to get what they want-godlike power. Similar to sephiroth jsut without the mommy issue. Shinra didn’t jsut simply let its greed ruin the plant, it encourages them to dominate all political and social life in their sphere. They choose to make wutai a puppet, they got the midgar government to operate under them, they rule the world to a large degree. And even before sephiroth was created or even thought of, they were seeking that promised land not to better the word by for their greed for power.
@TheFf9Vivi
3 ай бұрын
I really liked all of your Final Fantasy videos and God of War videos. I haven't seen much else but the way you describe the points you are trying to get across are so tangible and easy to digest. FF7 will always be a masterpiece but in my humble opinion FFIX's characters, theme, and story would be something right up your ally too! So I hope you get the chance to cover that game as well. That game to me was the best of that older style Final Fantasy era in my opinion. Seven was the best with a complex and interesting story but FFIX was always my favorite.
@DEML91
6 ай бұрын
Not sure on how this part is told in FF7 but Could doesn't make a new personality because he was wounded and experimented on, that still happened but what drove Could to have a new personality was Zacks sacrifice in which he told Could to "live for the both of us" which a still recuperating Could took literally and made is new personality based mostly on Zack.
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
You could definitely do a 3 hour exposition on every main character and their home in ff7. Insane level of detail. The esoteric moves, designs, enemies, parallels. It's mind blowing. Even Jenova has a connection to reality. Ive experienced clouds false memory thing. Its wild.
@Inosix
6 ай бұрын
I played the original for a ungodly amount of time in the late 90s. I didn't know how to articulate the nuances in the Tifa Cloud thing. This really helped put it together.
@TsuriaDragon
6 ай бұрын
Thank you Brett again I truly look forward to watching your videos thank you for all your hard work and dedication in making these. ❤
@kylieko2918
6 ай бұрын
congratulations, you have managed to convince me to get the remake on steam :)
@beastslayer8729
6 ай бұрын
37:30 It's pretty upsetting that Rebirth took away this grief moment for Cloud. I feel like it's pretty central to his character arc, and with Aerith seemingly still around in some form, it takes away from Clouds growth as an individual.
@randeroni
6 ай бұрын
If anything they're doubling down on Cloud's grief. He was so traumatized by her death that his brain is deluding itself into thinking she's still alive, the same way he's been deluding himself the whole time that he was a SOLDIER. Which will make his eventual breakdown in Part 3 after learning the truth all the more painful
@ursaminor2732
6 ай бұрын
they ruined this moment
@LordMalice6d9
3 ай бұрын
@ursaminor2732 It was honestly stupid. That scene is also supposed to represent the first time when we the players of the game see Cloud's real personality and not the fake Cloud persona he constructed around himself Those were his geniune emotions in how Aerith's death affected him.
@nilfgaardianlord5525
21 күн бұрын
Keep up the good work on the channel.
@RSollers
6 ай бұрын
I’m super stoked for your deep dive into HFW!
@UltraInfernoJ
6 ай бұрын
Love your documentaries, each one is a great look into these incredible stories. One note with the upcoming Horizon theories it's a good thing to mix up the order between series otherwise the KZitem algorithms may paint you as just an FF7 game channel and reduce your reach to non fans of the game. Happens after 3 consecutive uploads on a series I think.
@AMAJ4
6 ай бұрын
These are great videos! I assume they take a lot of time, which is admirable. I would love to see a video like this on Legend of Dragoon. That game has some fun story/character development.
@ralphsaid9239
6 ай бұрын
I really like the videos you make to be honest the in depth analisys are just good and i really appreciate the way you expose your opinion on a caracter without invalidating the other points of view that could exist on certain topics. i would suggest making a video on Zack FAIR since he is part of the base mindset that Cloud used to ''reconstruct himself''. After that making Cloud's video could focus on his true Identity, the man behind the lie, the man who dived deep into his psyche to survive trauma. Also because Zack is my favorite Caracter of Finals Fantasys Period but that is beside the point, even tho it matters but i'm side tracking,... Buuuuuuuuut.... So yeah Zack, Could be fun to make and Final Fantasy Crysis Core is entirely centered around him and his meeting with Cloud. Keep up your Work because, these is just as good as to make me see certain topics and characters in a new light.
@MrJam1858
6 ай бұрын
O.o looking forward to your horizon videos!!
@resyarte1113
5 ай бұрын
We don’t mind the length of the videos. Keep the good work.
@pureos4372
6 ай бұрын
It's made pretty clear that Cloud actually imprints his entire identity onto Zack likely due to the trauma and mako exposure he experienced at Nibelheim. This is why he truly believes he was in Soldier and I think at some point he introduces himself as Soldier First Class. He believes he's Zack in everything but name. It isn't until flashbacks and memories begin surfacing that the falsehood of that identity is revealed and that Zack died to save him.
@LordMalice6d9
3 ай бұрын
Cloud does not think he is literally Zack. But he does mimic many of Zack's mannerisms.
@iferren
6 ай бұрын
Amazing! thank you very much! for the video!
@josecuestas7246
6 ай бұрын
Regarding Rebirth's ending Cloud become like Batman from Arkham-verse, a poor guy suffering of notables hallucinations. Or, Aerith become a Force ghost that only allows Cloud to see her.
@zanychelly
5 ай бұрын
Dang, amazing video! I do really like Remake and Rebirth, specially because they are sequels to Advent Children and by consequence the OG.
@shadeblackwolf1508
5 ай бұрын
Shinra: the holy conglomerate, a parallel of the real world Zaibatsu of japan
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
Can we get an analysis on the BASIS and origins of summons and limits? And/or enemies and enemy skills. Like the greek or ancient origins lol. Will take a while but would be a god tier vid
@mrbubbles6468
6 ай бұрын
All the final fantasy games up till about 16 have been bonkers goofy most of the time though. Wanting them to return to that old style is just wanting them to go back to one entry ago.
@THELYRICALTMAN
6 ай бұрын
YES!!!!!!! MORE FINAL FANTASY!!!!
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
Quick question...why Migard? Instead of Midgar? Jw if that is the intended name or the correct pronunciation or if that's just a mispronunciation like the way people said aeris
@SoulsOfWisdom
6 ай бұрын
I just noticed this is one of the few times you released a video without Zelda or Nintendo OST.
@Mavuika_Gyaru
6 ай бұрын
18:33 actually it wasn't that Cloud wasn't strong enough, his mentality stopped him. In a mobile game that only released in Japan it was stated that Cloud was abnormally strong compared to the other infantrymen. Not to mention him and Tifa falling off mount Nibel as well as him overpowering Sephiroth
@arpadszabo661
6 ай бұрын
I blame the ff7 anime for making a lot of people think that Cloud wasn’t strong enough from the get go. In that anime the first relevant achievement of his, overpowering Sephiroth, is shown to be the result of Mako poisoning because immediately after throwing Sephiroth to the wall, his eyes start to become green.
@Mavuika_Gyaru
6 ай бұрын
@@arpadszabo661 Man ain't no one watched the anime 😅 Sephiroth just jumped into the mako for some reason
@arpadszabo661
6 ай бұрын
@@Mavuika_Gyaru yeah i’m sure no one watched it even though all of those clips on KZitem have over a million view. Idk why you act all stuck up over a fact weirdo.
@arpadszabo661
6 ай бұрын
@@Mavuika_Gyaru yeah i’m sure no one watched it with every single clip of that scene on KZitem having over a million view bud.
@santinopaone-hoyland
6 ай бұрын
Who cares what is in a mobile game? Why should it undermine analysis of the original game?
@davidharner2481
6 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell Me if there’s rebirth spoilers in this video I haven’t finished it but I’ve played the og ff7 so that’s fine
@XavierLignieres
6 ай бұрын
Any OG spoilers are Rebirth spoilers ..... and no not any Rebirth specific spoilers that I can tell.
@badreedinebedro
6 ай бұрын
yeah I think greed is definitely the point of the story like what I love about areith is that innocent girl in dark world and sick world she’s like a light in the darkness
@kagekun1198
5 ай бұрын
What I like seeing about Aerith is how she just naturally gets Cloud to open up beyond his forged cold, calculating mercenary persona he put up. While Tifa is absolutely essential to regaining Cloud's mind back, Aerith simply has better chemistry with him. My favorite example is with the hi-fives. It's very quick, but before the Airbuster, once you pass the synchronized switch flip puzzle, Tifa has her hand raised for a hi-five. Cloud doesn't notice it, and its very easy for the player to not notice it either. But with Aerith, despite two failed attempts, her energy soon gets Cloud more and more comfortable with expressing himself, culminating at the victory over the Hell House, where at last, Cloud does a hi-five.
@juanrivera3231
5 ай бұрын
There’s no D at the end of Midgar
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
The og is always going to be the best. Seriously. But i love the story of all 3 ps4/5 spinoff/remakes and i love crisis core more than i ever thought i would. I like remake more than rebirth but rebirth has better controls I kind of wanted a tighter story in rebirth but they kind of made it a little bit childish Disney like Kingdom Hearts that kind of thing I wish they would have slapped an M for mature rating on it they should do that with part 3 because anyone who's playing it even if they were young going to be probably old enough not to mention if you didn't play the original Final Fantasy VII and you are on part 3 of the new one then maybe you should be playing that and let the veterans play the third part the way it was intended either way I'm super excited for the extreme climactic stuff and I know some of the scenes and Materia that we're left out will make their debut
@steel2572
6 ай бұрын
Would you ever consider doing videos on RDR2. Think they could be really interesting
@Raditc
6 ай бұрын
yo i was curious what happened to that one video of FF16 where "kaiju simulator" was in the thumbnail?
@TheAntiburglar
5 ай бұрын
The real question is.... will you pronounce it Midgard in the Cloud video, too? Maintain the consistency, or correct the error? What will you do?!
@MasterKombatBro
6 ай бұрын
Damn kingdom hearts is a refreshed ff7 huh. Cloud being split between sora / riku
@DavidRYates-tk2tq
6 ай бұрын
I think that, as an Anarcho-Socialist, FFVII appeals more to me than any other FF game because of how anticapitalist it is, particularly the Midgar portion. It's so great. I wouldn't really even say that Shinra's actions are an extreme exaggeration of corporate greed, real corporations have done some pretty heinous shit.
@TheSuperRatt
6 ай бұрын
Real corporations are STILL doing some pretty heinous shit!
@RaGnarock2215
6 ай бұрын
I feel like you've got a very narrow minded concept of the game.
@arpadszabo661
6 ай бұрын
@@RaGnarock2215 that’s to be expected from someone who start a comment with admitting to being an anarchist tbh
@Manny-Prime
6 ай бұрын
At this point... just do videos for final fantasy 7 - 12. Great video as always sir
@BlaineGifford
5 ай бұрын
Great review thanks
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
Barret is legit amazing
@philybeanz23
6 ай бұрын
Great video thank you!
@corndog9482
5 ай бұрын
there is no wrong reason to fight against any entity wanting to rule the world.
@berin13
6 ай бұрын
OH BOY WHAT A GREAT SUNDAY! Let me pop a beer and enjoy this new FatBrett's video! Greetings from Brazil!
@BlaineGifford
5 ай бұрын
Great review 😊
@AShroudOfTruth
5 ай бұрын
"When you lose someone you "love very much" you feel this big empty space and think, 'If I had known this was coming I would have done things differently'. These are the feelings I wanted to arouse in the players with Aerith's death relatively early in the game. Feelings of reality and not Hollywood." ~ Nomura, Square Enix “In this story, Cloud carries his undying feelings for Aerith even to this very day…” ~ Nomura, Square Enix “Cloud sees Aerith several times throughout the film. It’s not that he sees her because he feels her presence. He sees her because her consciousness is alive inside him.” ~ Nomura, Square Enix In the AC ending credits, Cloud is riding his motorcycle through flower fields, Aerith's flowers. “With Aerith, ‘flowers’ have been her image throughout the series.” and "We filmed the video for the ending credits in Hawaii. There are fields of flowers on both sides of the road, and the colors - yellow and white - are the same as the flowers in Aerith’s church.” ~ Nomura, Square Enix The hand reach scene between Cloud and Aerith in Advent Children is referred to as a “homage” by Square Enix themselves, and intentionally highlights the romantic relationship between Cloud and Aerith that continues into the spiritual world. “The ending scene of the battle with Bahamut, the scene where Aerith reaches out her hand, is homage to the last scene from a previous production.” ~ Nojima, Reunion Files On the Midnight Rendezvous: "This plays during the scene where Cloud and Aerith are walking together under the night sky, when she joins him under the guise of acting as a guide. The awkwardness between the two of them is so sweet; it really is one of the more romantic moments of the game." ~ Mitsuto Suzuki "With the same intention, Cloud's voice changes a little depending on the person he spoke to. When speaking to Aerith, he tries to make himself look adult-like and presents himself to be cool. When speaking to Tifa, he's normal (because he doesn't care what she thinks of him). With Aerith, he's very conscious around her, his replies to her end up strange (because he cares what she cares what she thinks of him)." ~ Nomura, Square Enix "I wanted the English song title for the dance battle at the Honeybee Inn to give off a sexy image, where romantic feelings are gradually rising between the two…" [Cloud and Aerith romance]. ~ Toriyama, Famitsu interview “If you play Kingdom Hearts, toward the end, some of the questions about the relationship between Cloud and Aeris [Aerith] in Final Fantasy VII might be answered.” ~ Nomura, Square Enix And in the Kingdom Hearts universe, who does Cloud say that he will return to after he completes his quest? Answer: Aerith And in the end credits, who does it show that Cloud returns to? Answer: Aeirth Recap: Nomura says Kingdom Hearts answers questions about the 'relationship' between Cloud and Aerith as it pertains to the Final Fantasy VII’s universe'. Adding to the insurmountable other evidences out there that what binds Cloud and Aerith together, reaching even into the spirual realm, is in fact, true undying love, that their love is much deeper than just a physical earthly love connection, which eventually falls away, but is, in fact, a once in an eon connection that spans even beyond the physical. As it was meant to be insinuated in FFVII, for which would not have been such a heartbreak of a game if not for the love that Cloud and Aerith have for one another and her untimely death before he could tell her, or she him how they felt. He would never 'EVER" have lived in "their place" in the church for just guilt of losing only a comrade. No, it's much, much more than that. Kingdom Hearts II "In Aerith's last appearance of the game, during the ending credits, she is seen sitting on a ledge and looking up towards the Radiant Garden's sky, wondering what happened to Cloud and Sephiroth after their fight at the Dark Depths. Throughout the story, she encourages Cloud to do what he must to fulfill his goals. Know that when he does, he will return to 'her'." When we were riding on the gondola, I’m sure Aerith was aware of the real me, whom I looked away from. ~Cloud Strife, Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest x Final Fantasy 30th (Museum Gallery) "Aerith being able to see Cloud’s “true self” remains a constant in the Itadaki Street crossover event, where Cloud himself explains an understanding that Aerith knew the “real him” even when he subconsciously pretended to be someone else." ~ Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest x Final Fantasy 30th (Museum Gallery)
@dantetaylor2395
6 ай бұрын
Glad i caught this early🙏
@lospollosgaming1624
6 ай бұрын
fr
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
I think mako is analogous to oil, natural gas and such. I'm not going to sugar-coated this game was definitely an extreme criticism of the direction the world was going in at the time and still is and it holds up very well other than a few of the extremely Magical elements everything in Final Fantasy VII is accurate and honestly the way they portray corporate greed might actually be an understatement if you see the way things actually are in real life and take the blinders off which I'm sure a lot of people have, but not to the extent that they should have, we have slavery and genocide and 500,000 people dying in wars and 50,000 people being indiscriminately destroyed by a larger Nation that's being backed by the ultimate corporate Nation and I have no doubt that shouldn't rule was based on companies from the United States of America I mean people are afraid to talk about this stuff and want to defend their country but honestly America is largely indefensible in many ways and that's not to say it's one of the worst places to be even though it is kind of bad but it's a really bad place as far as what it does to the rest of the world Shinra could be a parallel to the United States but I'm not exactly sure that Avalanche has a parallel because in the real world there aren't any environmental Heroes no matter what this game is a masterpiece even if the world was peaceful and overcomes most of the large problems if our species survives or another species stumbles upon Final Fantasy 7 it will almost be like a history a playable history book that is somewhat fictional what gives the general vibe in a fun way another species or the future species can enjoy and they can learn about it this way that's another element of how it is a masterpiece it is timeless as far as Avalanche and Cloud it's almost as if they introduce a hypothetical a what if scenario that probably should have happened that is a bunch of people protesting against it even in ways that people find unsavory man this game is Just Awesome it's dark I wish it got an M rated label from the very beginning and I hope part 3 is actually a little bit less like Kingdom Hearts and more like the original
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
I love crisis core properly portraying a 1st class. Zack is an absolute monster in combat. Way stronger, better abilities, more skill. Love it. Reunion is a masterpiece too imo, except for the sonic voice dub but tbh it doesnt detract much!!
@LordMalice6d9
3 ай бұрын
The character is pretty boring though.
@rasmus6236
6 ай бұрын
Really nice. Really really nice.
@santinopaone-hoyland
6 ай бұрын
If this is an analysis of FFVII, why claim that "the planet ultimately allows humanity to stay"? This does not happen in FFVII. The ending is left open for the player to decide whether or not humanity survive. No humans are shown. We are supposed to think about why Holy might have spared us or why not.
@MichaelTom-fj8px
6 ай бұрын
Mate you should do an analysis of Rdr2 that would be cracker
@Johnjeff-q8t
6 ай бұрын
make rdr2 analysis
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
6 ай бұрын
Quark: They Irradiated Their Own Planet?
@yosoyrandolph
6 ай бұрын
Shinra...Tesla Potato, potato
@jimmymacreator
6 ай бұрын
If playing every Wii game can help me write this well, sign me up
@itsdantaylor
6 ай бұрын
6:23 technically they bombed to disable the reactors, Shinra detonated the reactors and subsequently killed people as a false flag operation.......(not sure if that was the case in the original game but it certainly was in remake)
@terraventusaqua123
6 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if anyone has said this yet… but there’s no D in “Midgar”…
@xtendoclip1517
6 ай бұрын
time for another 21 hour playthrough of ffvii
@helderalmeida3417
5 ай бұрын
I heard that 7 and 10 are in the same universe and planet.
@supersaiyanzero386
5 ай бұрын
Honestly you could get a lot more jobs in against corporate greed or the way the system operates back in the day look at Streets of Rage so many games are about Underdog forces taking over or stopping the evil like when you are on the elevator up to the greedy corporate office in Streets of Rage 2 and the music plays too deep sort of like a nod that you are going to take on something that is extremely dangerous you are going straight to the top floor where the CEO is do you know what to him and then you have Metal Gear Solid which I haven't played that much but I like the conversations they are very prescient even in games like World of Warcraft especially early on a lot of these themes were explored likewise in Game of Thrones Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul it seems every Masterpiece has a parallel with the real world or at least the systems that are in place and how it operates that's a pro tip for anybody out there who wants to make something make sure it relates to Something in the real world in a very strong way
@AShroudOfTruth
5 ай бұрын
Tifa was a childhood crush, in which there were still remnants of those feelings when Cloud ran into her, but just a remnant, like a lot of us have. But they're not real, not the stick to you for a lifetime feeling like in true adult love. First you have to actually 'know' someone, and Tifa never actually did 'know' Cloud, it wasn't as if they were close. Even if they had, we are not the same people we were as children, we're totally different any way you look at it. We see a few years later in Advent Children what true love does to you, and what losing them does to your heart, mind and soul. Back to Tifa. Tifa has had the fantasy of a hero coming to her rescue ever since childhood. Something she's never grown out of. She didn't care who it was as long as they were a hero, or at least pretended to be one. Thus why she'd asked not just Cloud alone to make that promise, but she'd also asked three other boys before they too left. Then fast forward 7 years later, Cloud reenters the picture as a SOLDIER, and out pops that little girl fantasy, making is way right back up into her head. So now she's perceiving Cloud as a Sephiroth-like hero. Are you getting it now? Then after some time, she attempts to draw Cloud in by using those past memories literally time after time, and every time. The past, the past, the past. It's kinda manipulative if you think about it. As for the Lifestream scene, it wasn't Clouds 'relationship' with Tifa so much as it was her memories. It's her memories that helped Cloud regain his memories, which he had forgotten, and that's all there actually was to it. Tifa was the only one around who had 'shared past memories' with Cloud, albeit few. Though it could have been anyone from Nibelheim, anyone living there who shared memories with Cloud.
@Wellsy-qr8pb
6 ай бұрын
Translation I am too lazy to give rebirth a video
@lospollosgaming1624
6 ай бұрын
its crazy to see ff7 content
@jeffhough7460
4 ай бұрын
Always thought the theme of ff7 was identity
@Bpace777
5 ай бұрын
My name is Brett, so this channel is partially based for me lol
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