I remember when the controversy was raging, a reporter asked a scientist, "Cold fusion would be the biggest invention since....?" And the scientist said " Fire"! 😮
@marcopohl4875
3 жыл бұрын
true
@booksteer7057
3 жыл бұрын
@JEHOAKIM MENA Post your picture first. :-D
@GamingKeenBeaner
3 жыл бұрын
Oh it would be way bigger than fire. We could live without a star. We could travel deep space. There is so much fusion power can provide us.
@thomaslinder6299
2 жыл бұрын
@@GamingKeenBeaner Not really. Unless you're talking about corpses 'traveling' deep space. There's more to traveling than just the energy required to move a mass from A to B. Unless you're at a constant state of acceleration/deacceleration to mimic gravity, your body wouldn't survive more than a few years, tops. Trying to mimic gravity by rotational force brings a new set of problems unless the scale of engineering begins to rival O'Neil cylinders that are kilometers across, to have a chance at minimizing the associated coriolis forces acting on the otolithic structures of the human vestibular organs (inner ear). Avoiding the worst of these problems would require a different approach, like modifying the human genome with a sophistication and to a sufficient degree that it rivals science fiction, in order to 'harden' the genes and organs that would otherwise be unable to withstand a lifetime of deep space travel without a constant source of artificial gravity or ability to shield harmful radiation. Lots to solve, beyond simply the energy source, for deep space travel.
@maurofrancisco4002
5 жыл бұрын
I owned a Nokia 3310, and i confirm the veracity of his statement, this device is indestructible.
@Fuzzout
5 жыл бұрын
I went swimming with mine for an hour and then turned it back on and called my mother afterwards to tell her about it.
@kazzsaru
5 жыл бұрын
Owned a similar in-series Nokia 3000'esque. Can confirm it extends to a lot of that series. It isnt a joke that some of them have been used as ISIS bomb detonators and remain usable for a second bomb afterwards.
@Fkashmhd
5 жыл бұрын
@@kazzsaru 😂😂😂😂
@shaunpriddle3404
5 жыл бұрын
On the subject of phones as bomb triggers did you know only that generation of phones is capable as the voltage output on the vibration mechanism is too low in subsequent models.
@Shadow77999
5 жыл бұрын
Mentira
@ti2218
3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty off-topic but I just discovered your channel recently and I've been completely addicted ever since. I'm literally making it my mission to watch every single episode on your channel and I'm past halfway there. Basically, you're awesome, there aren't many KZitemrs like you, and you have been doing this for a long time. You deserve a ton of respect and you certainly have mine. You've taught me so much more in about a month than the past 3 years of school I've had combined
@icaruscarinae
5 жыл бұрын
Its worth investigating because our failures still uncover information.
@absalomdraconis
5 жыл бұрын
I've read that the search for cold fusion has produced great improvements in the field of heat-flux measurements. A bit ignominious, yet quite valuable.
@cmdrcorvuscoraxnevermore3354
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent point, and very true. Do something, fail, learn, do something again, wash, rinse, repeat and eventually get a Nobel Prize.
@joescott
5 жыл бұрын
Failure is a big teacher.
@centristoffense3864
5 жыл бұрын
@@profribasmat217 You're trying to be cute but you fail because apriori assumptions about simple logical concepts (see: elementary math) are needed before we can even begin to do science. When you get tired of being a jokester and want to have a grown up conversation you'll need to step out of the kiddy pool where it's only 2 feet deep. Failure is the backbone of the scientific method.
@patrick247two
5 жыл бұрын
@@profribasmat217 I'd like to a bag holding 1000 times more science.
@michaelmoller4199
5 жыл бұрын
You briefly mention high temperature superconductivity....could you do a video explaining that?
@GoldSrc_
5 жыл бұрын
"high temperature" there is relative, I think it was around -50ºC or something like that, and if that's not all, it had to be under extremely high pressures. Maybe we have achieved "warmer" temperatures for superconductivity, but I doubt something has been done to do it at normal atmospheric pressures.
@VitorSalsicha
5 жыл бұрын
Gordon is right, depending on the material it can happen around -70 to -60ºC, something did came up last year in india for room temperature, but it turn out to be a error
@CarFreeSegnitz
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... "high temperature" superconductivity. Superconductivity is routinely witnessed at temperatures barely above absolute zero. "High temperature" superconductivity on the other hand occurs with a few special ceramics at around 100 Kelvin, -170 degrees centigrade. So instead of needing liquid helium to get it to those temps you can get away with liquid nitrogen. Still freak'n cold.
@michelgent7419
5 жыл бұрын
Did a physics lab on it recently. Try searching YBCO
@notsoclearsky
5 жыл бұрын
@@VitorSalsicha well, it's *NOT* an error. It got proven eventually but the news flashlight was gone till then.
@bfelix053
4 жыл бұрын
Great summary Joe! I was taking classes in the Chemistry Building at U of U in 1989 when this thing hit and remember it vividly. You did an excellent job of capturing how this went down. I had never heard a good explanation of how the deuterium was fusing, so really nice to finally get some clarity on that.
@phamnuwen9442
5 жыл бұрын
It's probably true that scientific consensus is usually right. However "You're wrong because you go against scientific consensus." is not a valid argument.
@softgoodsint
4 жыл бұрын
e.g. Copernicus
@johnsawdonify
4 жыл бұрын
@@softgoodsint yes Thomas Kunh and Paul Feyerabend had some interesting ideas and to my mind valid points...
@impyre2513
4 жыл бұрын
@Pham Nuwen while that last statement is technically correct, I'd argue that it's also functionally meaningless and irrelevant. If someone were to say something like that, they are most likely trying to say "You are probably wrong if you go against the scientific consensus" which is an accurate statement and is really just a re-worded version of what you say at the beginning of your comment. People don't always say precisely what they mean.
@SaveTheFuture
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I made that point in the video I did, which I made not too long before this one, since I had seen it in the news.
@lordmeepers7297
4 жыл бұрын
Pham Nuwen that’s true because scientists say energy cannot be created if so how the fuck does energy exist in the first place logic 101
@chloewright1
5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this channel has been going for 5 years and I only just came across it about a week ago. I watch videos like this on KZitem all the time so I'm surprised none of your videos were ever recommended for me. I just wanted to say that I love what you're doing here. I've been binge watching your videos for the last week, this is my new favourite channel now!
@maartendj2724
5 жыл бұрын
Joe: "you're young aren't you?" me: "nah I'm not young I'm a grown ma..." Joe: "Senior citizens my age and older remember back in 1989... " Me: "Oh then I'm young yes"
@zephirol4638
4 жыл бұрын
i doubt he actually remembers it. he doesn't look much older if at all than 30-40
@zephirol4638
4 жыл бұрын
@@bluon259 lol did the math? pray tell what you mean... An regardless that would make him around 16, something tells me a 16 year old pre internet era would not be keeping up with theoretical scientific arguments. Edit: after doing a quick search, it appears he is 44. Which would make him around 14. Just not seeing this as plausible. Though it was likely just hyperbole, making this entire argument rather moot.
@peejurtica7341
4 жыл бұрын
*then
@Cheferjosh
4 жыл бұрын
haha, I totally thought the same thing, born in 89 >.
@Cheferjosh
4 жыл бұрын
@@zephirol4638 well I will say that I was 12 when the world trade centers were attacked, and I still very much remember seeing that live on TV. My older brother remembers watching the OJ Simpson stuff, and he was under 10 at the time.
@videosbymathew
3 жыл бұрын
Quick clarification. Stars do not fuse atoms past the barrier you describe like we have to make them do in fusion reactors. Instead, stars get atoms close enough to where quantum tunneling takes into effect for a small number of them, bypassing the electrostatic barrier entirely (you hint at this at 15 mins in on Cold Fusion). This is why fusion reactors need to be many times hotter than the core of the sun, as we essentially need sheer force to make up for a tiny amount of material we're working with. Otherwise, we'd never get enough atoms to create a reaction through tunneling alone. This is also why Cold Fusion is ridiculous (most likely) because that electrostatic barrier is just not going to happen at such low temperatures and pressures.
@orlandobyrd438
4 жыл бұрын
LAST! Ahhh I remember that Cold Fusion era and the great hype. I even remember that Keanu Reeves movie where he discovered cold fusion could by done by harmonics, right?
@bchirhart
5 жыл бұрын
Joe - at x0.25 speed... best drunk guy!
@ryantothmisc
5 жыл бұрын
1.25 after a couple lines at a nightclub
@brandb16
5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you pointed that out.
@titmusspaultpaul5
5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@foodank_atr817
5 жыл бұрын
😂 why does this work so well?!? I go halfspeed though...
@andysim232
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just watched for 80 minutes!
@mistrants2745
5 жыл бұрын
5:07 surface of the sun hot? Make that 5 orders of magnitude higher and you are in the right area :').
@bencoad8492
5 жыл бұрын
yea you need hotter then the Sun to make enough energy like trillion C thats the catch lol
@maschwab63
5 жыл бұрын
600C.
@zariumsheridan3488
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he really need to read a lot more on this before discussing hot fusion :). Fusion reactors lack the pressure at the Sun's core, so they need to make it up in temperature. That, and also the rate of fusion needs to be way higher. So no, center of the Sun hot is not nearly hot enough :))
@maschwab63
5 жыл бұрын
@@zariumsheridan3488 In a Plasma, yet. Protons trapped in Nickel powder, no.
@dunn0r
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was about to say that. 6000K isn't even close to hot enough. More like 10-20x of the sun's core temp. So we're talking roughly 200 MK.
@joshlink2129
4 жыл бұрын
Hey.... Since we're running outta helium, maybe we need a hydrogen fusion reactor pumpin out us some helium, yeah?
@YagamiKou
4 жыл бұрын
we could but the numbers would probably be rather small the LHC can basically do alchemy, and just make gold atoms but it would take like *nani* i knew it was a long time but my googlefu said "3 million years for 1 gram"
@skinisdelicious3365
4 жыл бұрын
Or we stop using balloons at birthday parties because thats just stupid
@Josh729J
4 жыл бұрын
too energy intensive
@Baigle1
4 жыл бұрын
The goalpost is set at making a profit in around 15-30 years, not including subsidy. It should be able to run for at least about 60 years, designed for 150 years, and expected at 100. If it needs new fuel elements every 6 months, costing millions of $, or new neutron absorber linings (for fusion), that cost is factored in. You can generate about a gigawatt per reactor building with modern fission designs, but only a couple hundred watts to megawatts of net energy output with magnetically bottled fusion (ITER/Stellarator/JET). No magnetic confinement reactor has generated more energy output than was pumped in to date (tmk). There are impactor/ laser inertial confinement systems that have generated more energy out of a pellet than what got absorbed into the material, but overall they still operated at a net loss of energy. The thing is, gravity is the free-est energy source that exists for us. We might never escape it. The sun uses it to conduct fusion and some fission only via its hydrogen's effort against being crushed by this free gravity. All of the energy from fusion or fission comes from turning the limited amount of mass we have in this universe into energy, be it particle velocity (heat), electroweak interactions (light, electricity), or some weird stuff we haven't figured out yet. Edit: Spelling.
@tylerdurden3722
4 жыл бұрын
@@Baigle1 In the sun, the chances of two hydrogen atoms fusing is actually extremely low. Fusion happens very sparsely in the sun. In fact, per kilogram, your body outputs more heat than the sun does...per kilogram. But the sun is fricken huge. It has a crap load of hydrogen atoms that overwhelms those extremely small odds of two hydrogen atoms fusing. The sun is not very energy dense (in terms of heat output). But it makes up for that by having lots and lots of hydrogen atoms. So the key to the sun's "success" in fusion is not gravity...the sun's secret is the sheer number of hydrogen atoms it has available to play the odds. If you replicated the sun's fusion here on earth, with a gravity producing device that's able to produce gravity identical to that inside the sun, and then applying that gravity to some hydrogen atoms, the fusion produced by that device would output less energy per kilogram than a human body does. So the sun's version of fusion is not viable. The power output per kilogram we're trying to achieve with fusion, here on earth, far surpasses what goes on in the sun...by several orders of a magnitude. It's not an easy goal to achieve.
@shleed
5 жыл бұрын
Cold fusion, like everything, is worth research *but* people absolutely need to follow the proper steps in research and publication, especially for a topic this volatile.
@j.f.fisher5318
5 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you have been checking out the MIT research on the subject?
@themudpit621
5 жыл бұрын
@@armageddonsengineer3182 soooo, where do I find out about the crispr babies? That's very interesting!
@TheMightyZwom
5 жыл бұрын
BTW that is something that all those fringe-science guys have in common: They have extraordinary claims with little to no "evidence". Their experiments are either ill described (so no one can test their ideas themselfs) or their results are not repeatible. And then they cry all day long about how they're ignored by real scientists... I wonder why...
@themudpit621
5 жыл бұрын
@@armageddonsengineer3182 turns out, you can just google 'crispr babies' and up comes the youtube video by the Chinese scientist who did it. It was only two babies though, at least, that's all I've found. He gave them a resistance to aids for some reason. How they gonna test if it worked? Try give them aids? Weird gene to choose.
@onehitpick9758
5 жыл бұрын
If you really have cold fusion, you can skip all proper steps. If you had viable exothermic cold fusion, steps and process are ridiculous. Did the first high temp superconductor really need process? No -- some ceramic went critical and levitated a magnet at liquid nitrogen temps. No paper needed, but many followed.
@gamalipi
5 жыл бұрын
Joe, this was one of the best episodes so far, simply because of your posture about science and truth and your calm but steady elaboration about cold fusion. I would definitely try the "Double moonshot" drink if it becomes a thing. Thanks for the quality content.
@robynsmith4164
2 жыл бұрын
I think that continuing research on things that can literally change the way that we (as a species) can travel through space is ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT! I also think that scientists by the masses should be collectively working on figuring out exactly how gravity works. That is another thing that would CHANGE EVERYTHING!
@charlies4422
3 жыл бұрын
I have always appreciated your videos. There is so much to learn outside of the main subject matter. Like explaining the stigma around fusion, and how the context of the time shapped that. So thank you for the work you do.
@timrobinson513
5 жыл бұрын
A true sceptic is someone who has an open mind to everything, Someone who says “that could be possible” and “could not be possible”. But also someone who is willing to change their mind. Some people who claim to be open minded are often stubborn and refuse to believe anything other than what they want.
@RedstoneNinja99
5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more
@onehitpick9758
5 жыл бұрын
A true sceptic (sic) is someone that likely needs a ton of antibiotics.
@squirlmy
5 жыл бұрын
You're just making that up. "Some people who claim to be open minded..." Who is that? Isn't it everybody? Do you really know people who claim to be open-minded who really are? Is that really a distinct set of people? Aren't you just making something up and saying it applies to a group of people who don't really exist? Just to make yourself seem smart? Why are you posting? Don't hate on me, bro. I'm only being truly open-minded.
@RedstoneNinja99
5 жыл бұрын
@@squirlmy Perhaps a more honest phrasing would have been, "I think it's very easy to claim to be open minded, but then I think you should avoid..."
@Korkuthan87778
5 жыл бұрын
@@squirlmy I think Tim means the so-called skeptic movement when he says some people. And I made the exact same argument he made to people who identify themselves as "skeptics", in the sense that they subscribe to the ideas of the skeptic movement.
@SC-zq6cu
4 жыл бұрын
15:22 Slight error - the extra mass doesn't "push" the nuclei closer. The extra mass of muons mean that in order to hold the same angular momentum as electrons in atoms they have to stay much closer to the nucleus than the electrons do. This means that when a muon molecule of hydrogen forms the nuclei of the atoms stay much closer to each other compared to electron molecules since the space occupied by muons in between the two nuclei in the molecule is much smaller than that occupied by electrons. This closeness of the nuclei increases the likelihood of the nuclei fusing together and that is how the muon catalyzed fusion happen.
@MessyJ
5 жыл бұрын
If you're married long enough, your fusion can sometimes be pretty cold.
@hydernoori146
5 жыл бұрын
Subzero son
@Ta3iapxHs
5 жыл бұрын
:o
@DroningaboutNW
5 жыл бұрын
I would agree with you but the wife is looking over my shoulder haha
@Matt02341
5 жыл бұрын
Was Subzero, now Plain zero!
@matthewerwin4677
5 жыл бұрын
Absolute zero
@BB992
5 жыл бұрын
Joe, I agree with all you're saying about the scientific consensus and whatnot. You don't need to convince us that you like to explore niche or fringe ideas without it effecting your scientific scepticism. Why are you approaching this so cautiousl- "Today, I'm going to talk about cold fusion." OOooooooooooooooooh, ok then. that makes sense
@ragnarlothbrok3691
5 жыл бұрын
That is maybe because those noble scientists were ridiculed, yet today we tend to be at least indirectly, on their side; just like for Nikola Tesla. The world we live in officially accepts T.A.Edison, and rejects the two cold fusion researchers, dismiss or ridicules anyone brings novel innovative idea like Elon Musk dealt with at first.
@BB992
5 жыл бұрын
I guess my joke requires an annex with an explanation since it went over the head of some :p
@Seastallion
5 жыл бұрын
@@BB992 No, the joke was understood, unfortunately some people think skepticism and cynicism are synonymous. They are not. It is one thing to entertain an idea but needing evidence for hard consideration, and eye rolling dismissal as soon as something is mentioned. Those are very different attitudes even if they do sometimes (or even often) end up on the same opinion about something. A skeptic would at least hear arguments as to why they should change their mind, open to the possibility of new information that might justify such a change.
@Finley111
5 жыл бұрын
Love the statement you made in the intro. That’s why it blows my mind when people say that belief in the scientific consensus is akin to faith.
@archenema6792
5 жыл бұрын
Let's try a thought experiment. Let's say you're a Roman Catholic, and you have faith in God. What is it you have faith in? Is it a conception of God as the Lord of Creation and Supreme Law Giver that you came up with yourself? Did someone tell you about this Jesus guy, and you went and researched his speeches and had a moment of serendipity? Of course not. You received the belief from priests or other similar persons, and you accepted it on the basis of their authority, the conviction that they have a greater knowledge of the Universe and a closer connection to God than yourself. Please explain to me how this is different from accepting the pronouncements of "the scientific consensus" without a critical examination? The truth or falsehood of their statements is irrelevant if you have no confirmatory tools, you're simply accepting the further proposition that they DEFINITELY know better than you do. The entire reason an appeal to authority is considered fallacious is precisely because it is nothing but faith in the unsubstantiated opinion of another.
@modernkennnern
5 жыл бұрын
@@archenema6792 one argument could be that there are precedents of scientist "beliefs" becoming true, while there are no evidence of any religious beliefs ever becoming true.
@archenema6792
5 жыл бұрын
@@modernkennnern The "scientific consensus" doesn't publish papers whose results can be checked. Individual scientists and teams do. Appealing to their authority is just as fallacious, however, because as hedge funds and mutual funds are legally required to state in their advertisements, "Past success is not an indicator or guarantee of future success".
@philipocarroll
3 жыл бұрын
I think the thing you missed here is an adequate explanation how Fleishchmann and Pons made the fateful decision to hold a press conference and ruin their careers. The story really starts in 1985 when they found their palladium-deuterium storage experiment had melted overnight, melting.the palladium cathode (MP.1500C) burned a hole 1 foot in diameter in a hard work surface down to the floor and through four inches of concrete. From that moment they were convinced they had fusion. The problem is they never managed to repeat this spectacular result. Four years later they fooled themselves they saw measurements of excess heat and neutrons, but never saw a meltdown. I don't believe the lab fire was made up, there were witnesses. However this meltdown was kept secret and cleaned up. They just weren't ready. It is still tantalizing to me. The day I heard about this I was in college and for a brief few days anything seemed possible, humanity could do anything, solve climate change, colonize Mars. Until it all evaporated
@ZanzatheDivine
5 жыл бұрын
Breaking: local KZitemr (and possible crackpot) claims to have created life using a chocolate milkshake and... goat urine...
@macmcleod1188
5 жыл бұрын
I saw that and I was amazed. Here's a link to the video
@talinbentley235
5 жыл бұрын
@@macmcleod1188 where? Where is the link to the video?
@sineadcampbell5147
5 жыл бұрын
Not again!?
@FLPhotoCatcher
4 жыл бұрын
Cool joke. But the topic is serious, so here's a serious thought. There were several scientific teams that replicated far more heat than could be explained W.O. some kind of fusion. If there were only one who replicated it, Maybe it could be called a measurement error, but there simply is no way that several could have made a mistake in something so easy to measure. So, why the ignoring of the hard evidence? Why the refusal to consider that there could be variation in results of something so difficult as 'cold fusion'? How many dollars spent, and YEARS spent on Hot Fusion? My researched conclusion is that an electricity generator so potentially portable and inexpensive would simply be way too disruptive to society. Think... Hippies could live off the grid, away from control... And so could Christians. And they would be happy, and thrive. Look at world history - the powers will not let that happen.
@adamgoodwin9766
5 жыл бұрын
1. The story arc of this channel is awesome, and it's a meta of the story arc of science. I love it. 2. Definitely, people should continue to research cold fusion! I just don't want to be the one who does it.... 🙄
@VincentGill3
4 жыл бұрын
In my research, I have discovered that the American black budget space program has surpassed cold fusion a long time ago.
@interferon4800
5 жыл бұрын
16:53 "Propulsion without fuel". I think you meant "Propulsion without reaction mass"
@levilandes1719
4 жыл бұрын
I think he's trying to simplify. Might have overdone it a smidge.
@markmahan38
4 жыл бұрын
I have had this idea for over 20 years. I not really sure why, but the fuzzy concept of how the stars or suns do fusion in the near absolute zero of space. There is more to it than just near absolute zero temperature. But to simplify and get to the point. The first example of potential cold fusion Joe spoke of. I have believed that temperature may be the key to making the first model work at command. Lower the temperature in a room built to allow gradual lowering of temperature. With the first example of cold fusion. And have keep track through sensors and registers. Until a the right temperature gets the consistent reactions that is being sought. That is my hypothesis for a cold fusion reaction.
@JeffNotes
5 жыл бұрын
Waaaaatteeerrrr boooyyyyy, waaterrr booyyyy! Excellent video as always! Especially that nice personal talk in the beginning.=)
@krashd
5 жыл бұрын
Momma said fools ball is teh devil!
@Sciguy95
5 жыл бұрын
Surface of the sun hot? I think you mean several times hotter than the "core" of the sun. Most tokamak style fusion reactors require a temperature of around 150 million degrees. The core of the sun is around 27 million.
@blackburnaxm1537
4 жыл бұрын
This is the only channel that answers my question without asking .
@kornbread5359
5 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on hemp. Its not weed you kinda cant smoke it, but has a huge potential for industrial applications. Btw since i heard you mention seti@home i now have many devices cranking 24/7 but different projects and have inspired many others to join there is also nasa globe observer. You do great 👍 work
@edreusser4741
2 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have talked more about the lack of neutrons and the lack of other evidence that fusion took place. And yes I believe that this should be pursued. The fact that it works so well with muons means that the amount of energy required is in the same magnitude as that required. It may be possible to modify the substrate to get better results.
@dankuchar6821
5 жыл бұрын
Dr Jones, my professor at the time, could fill you in on the details of why Ponds and fleischman released their information early. I was there when it happened so I'll tell you a little bit of what I know. They simply weren't ready at the time and ask Dr Jones to delay his paper once again, something he had already done twice. They were not collaborating at all! Jones was completely independent of ponds and flashmen. ponds and fleischmann didn't have anything to publish so they released a press conference to jump the gun. Dr Jones Cold fusion experiments were far different than what ponds and fleischmann when were trying to do. Dr Jones, we measured neutrons, not water temperature increases, the most we thought we could get was a trillionth of a watt of extra power, well within our margin of error. So while it was interesting, there was no chance of a power station or anything like that. Ponds and fleischmann when about to get scooped, or so they thought, and since they didn't have anything ready to publish and Dr Jones couldn't wait any longer because of his deal with nature magazine, ponds and fleischmann went out and had a press release. They deserved all the crap they got.
@flippantfishtaco3132
5 жыл бұрын
Dan Kuchar thanks for sharing. I don’t agree that they deserved crap, it was a big discovery and they were under pressure.
@dankuchar6821
5 жыл бұрын
@@flippantfishtaco3132 The thing is they didn't have any discovery. Or they could have released their paper, but they had nothing, so what they tried to do was go public to scoop Dr Jones, Even though they had nothing but a hypothesis and no evidence from experimentation to back up their hypothesis. There's a reason things go through the scientific review process through pier review journals and not through press releases. I don't think they were under pressure from the University of Utah, but perhaps they were. Where they went wrong was asking for millions of dollars in research money to build power plants. There was no evidence, at least from what was going on with Dr Jones, that any substantial power could be generated. Again Dr Jones detected a few extra neutrons amounting to somewhere around a trillionth of a watt of possible access power. There was never any measurable temperature increase to water as far as I know. That was a long time ago and I have forgotten some of the details.
@FrankGutowski-ls8jt
5 жыл бұрын
Dan Kuchar I think you meant your expected extra power would be well outside (or larger than) your margin of error, not within it.
@dankuchar6821
5 жыл бұрын
@@FrankGutowski-ls8jt I meant that the power we assumed through the production of excess neutrons was around a trillionth of a watt. That tiny power was too far within our margin of error for measuring via temperature changes. So no temperature changes could be measured, simply neutrons or detected with a very sensitive neutron detector. No discernible temperature change was measured.
@FrankGutowski-ls8jt
5 жыл бұрын
Dan Kuchar I vaguely recall reading about experiments along those lines.
@heronimousbrapson863
5 жыл бұрын
Cold Fusion. I can already hear the collective gnashing of teeth and the tearing of hair.
@turkosicsaba
5 жыл бұрын
Not as much as I gnashed my teeth at the Philadelphia Experiment video. WTF was up with that?!
@thstroyur
5 жыл бұрын
Why? Everybody knows it's bunk - so why is it taboo to talk about it? It's an interesting piece of science's history, just like the polywater debacle...
@j.f.fisher5318
5 жыл бұрын
@@thstroyur I assume you've been following the MIT research on the subject?
@thstroyur
5 жыл бұрын
@@j.f.fisher5318 You mean on LENR, or polywater? XD Either way, if you think they're on to something, let's see some peer-reviewed results, then...
@sunshine7453
4 жыл бұрын
After 1989, Fleishmann-Pons did not loose complete in disgrace. Toyota family built 2 brand new labs in France for them to continue to do their research. They continued to generate more papers and eating French food but not generating an extra watt of energy to warm up a coffee pot till their retirement. They never rejected their claim. Those labs are now closed. I wish that I could continue their work because I want to live in France and eat French food. Cold fusion is not dead at all. There are a lot of private companies that continue to do cold fusion because the payoff is so immense!
@raggedclawstarcraft6562
5 жыл бұрын
Dunning-Kruger effect affects not only "dumb" or "inexperienced" people. It affects everybody. Even an expert could overestimate his skills, knowledge, experience.
@barongerhardt
5 жыл бұрын
It is a trend, outliers always exist.
@SockPuppet80
5 жыл бұрын
What Joe is talking about in the intro doesn't really sound like Dunning-Kruger. It's more your run-of-the-mill epistemic pessimism - not all things can be figured out, so why even bother trying to figure out anything that isn't half-way there already. The lazy skeptic's excuse, if you will.
@raggedclawstarcraft6562
5 жыл бұрын
@@SockPuppet80 Good clarification. Definitely worth being in the comments. Thank you.
@squirlmy
5 жыл бұрын
SPECIFICALLY, Dunning-Kruger only applies to ignorant people. When it doesn't, than it's not called "Dunning-Kruger!!!!". You've illustrated it pretty well, actually. If you had done ANY research, you would know this, and not post that it applies to experts, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T. That's just plain overconfidence, just plain and simple. I don't think I've ever hit my forehead so hard as when I read your comment. It's just SO WRONG!
@squirlmy
5 жыл бұрын
@@raggedclawstarcraft6562 that's not clarification- it's someone calling you wrong. You are totally wrong! Dunning-Kruger has nothing to do with experts being overconfident.
@TheRealFlenuan
5 жыл бұрын
5:07 Actually no, not surface-of-the-sun hot. They're _core-of-the-sun_ hot.
@PoeRacing
5 жыл бұрын
10 to 15 times the core of the sun!!!
@earlofdoncaster5018
5 жыл бұрын
The surface of the sun isn't hot enough for fusion to occur as it's only 5700 celsius.
@allhumansarejusthuman.5776
5 жыл бұрын
Its the heat and pressure that matters for hot fusion, not just heat. And theres a lot of pressure in the sun.
@kory6897
5 жыл бұрын
fusion happens in the core where it is way hotter
@DaaSaa-lt3is
4 жыл бұрын
good job joe you make the clean up of 20 years of fast food science on CF.
@OpreanMircea
5 жыл бұрын
5:00 haha, surface of the Sun hot? more like hotter than the core of the sun baby! 100 mil deg
@coryjohnson7025
5 жыл бұрын
There are better ways. The idea of "fuzzy fission" for one. Yes, Joe. FISS the dog
@divergentevolution8114
4 жыл бұрын
Criticism is not skepticism. Everything should be criticized, fault should be looked for, found and eliminated. That is literally the process we use to evolve our social structure, our relationships and our own biology.
@russellpeterson6478
3 жыл бұрын
Joe, whenever someone tells me to think outside the box, I always ask them "Who's box, yours or mine?" and that's why I don't like this statement. It's imprecise and does not accurately ask for the information that you are trying to ascertain.
@mik99D
5 жыл бұрын
"Nuclear Fusion. It's the energy of the future and always will be"
@VerisimilitudeDude
4 жыл бұрын
That's a running joke, and it always seems 20-30 years away, but the truth is, they are making progress, and the amount of energy they can get out of a reaction has went up by an order of 10,000 times what they could in the 1970's.
@amallee3361
4 жыл бұрын
That's because it wasn't funded at a level that was expected to yield the necessary breakthroughs.
@pluto8404
4 жыл бұрын
@@VerisimilitudeDude but global warming will kill us in 10 years, right after peak oil. Also around the same time they discover water on mars. But I hear this new vacuum tunnel train will really catch on in 5 years, will be super convenient to use as I extract drinking water from thin air, powered by thorium reactors.
@fanOmry
4 жыл бұрын
@@pluto8404 The Thorium is actually very plausible. That video was honestly one of thunderfoots bad ones. Don't get me wrong, that car was fake news. But A Molten Salt reactor whose start fuel is thorium.. That can and have worked. The only problem with them is wear and tair(?). and this can resolved. And frankly, Adding Hydrogen to that will not hurt.
@TremereTT
4 жыл бұрын
@@pluto8404 The Hyperloop is snakeoil, but hot fusion is not, it's just extremely expensive to even build sufficient test prototypes. The one that is build on spain takes years to build and it's not even meant to be run for long, but just as a demonstrator of the technology and all countries of the world are actually pooling money to get it build!
@remsmith3233
3 жыл бұрын
Joe, our family together and separately watch a lot of your videos and over time we get a confident feeling of who you are or what we think you are. Being skeptical or questioning “absolutes” is a healthy approach that leads you to further information which should lead to more awareness. My kids range from financial careers to lawyers seeking acceptable justice to engineers building “bridges” to where society wants to go to doctors shifting to functional medicine(treating for understanding causes not prescribing based on symptoms). We all support the meaning of the scientific method that, at times, is not comfortable or easy to address. We just happen to be taking about some of your videos during a recent dinner when I was able to get the whole clan together. We automatically categorize you as being a healthy skeptic and, right or wrong, we feel you are part of how we view the world. We need more public communicators like yourself Joe. Don’t change your “You tube” presence Joe. We all want to thank you for your time and energy.
@davidboyle1902
3 жыл бұрын
The moun thing reminds me of the research going into deflecting 'earth killing' asteroids, the encounters with which are so rare that mankind will be extinct before the next impact actually happens. The $$ spent on this effort, IMO, are totally wasted. And about discovering new stuff? One of the most important lessons I got from college is how little I knew about essentially every subject I took. A humbling experience that has served me well in the years following. Keep up the good work.
@zacharyberry2534
3 жыл бұрын
Joe...don't be coy. You're killing it.
@pam6489
4 жыл бұрын
3:30 starts Edit: I liked the video but if you want the juice it is in here
@gingeetheginge6071
5 жыл бұрын
Bruh just do the fusion at night and B O O M. Cold fusion 👌😂💯💯
@warwickwestonwrigful
3 жыл бұрын
Worth Exploring!
@Imterruble
3 жыл бұрын
Your so close to 1 million!! Congrats I've been her since around d 300,000 so its super cool to see you this close
@redrider9001
4 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of things I don’t agree with mainstream scientists about, for example, mainstream Egyptologists date that the Great Pyramid was built roughly near 2560 BC. But there is plenty of evidence refuting this fact. Such as Khufu’s name being misspelled in red marking. This was allegedly found by British Major General Howard Vyse. It was found, conveniently right at the time when his expedition was running out of money, and under pressure to make a significant finding to back his claim. In more recent years. the red markings were dated to be much more recent than when Vyse dates the Great Pyramid’s building, supporting the fact that he may have made the marking himself in order to give him a finite date. This is just one of many examples that support the fact that this date is not necessarily accurate.
@lizzdoe2821
Жыл бұрын
I totally understand how it’s easier to trust experts who have spent time researching topics we can’t even scrape the surface on. But it’s also very good to have an open mind and allow yourself to draw your own conclusions and not just go with the flow…. I’m not saying that you need to be a full blown conspiracy theorist or anything. But be open to new information and other peoples experience and opinions. Build your knowledge! Don’t just memories the given answers.
@LestatTravesty
Жыл бұрын
i bet Joe's flow might of changed after this last 3 year of science changing every other week lol.. til covid, in general, i trust "scientist". but not pharma. it was like 90% trust in scientist and like 20% trust in pharma. nothing changed on pharma. still 20% on that lol..which i came to on my own from my own personal experience and know what i know about it. scientist however, my trust plummeted to, i donno..30%? sounds about right..which sucks. science was one of my strong points all through out school. just cause i liked it alot. so when covid comes around, and i see what i come to think of simple common sense about science, being trashed...and by mass populations. all through out what they learned in school, going all the way back to like...6th GRADE... and i see them do that, simply over what politicians tell them, which we can clearly see now, that they pick and choose what scientist to believe and not believe. and in this case, they believed or should i say "sided" with....was the exact oppisote of what i myself learned in school...thinking i knew this and knew that all this time, and now they tell me that, no...i am wrong...i am wrong for what exactly?? learning what i learned in school, 30 years ago?? all over covid?? ...yeah well no...i know what i learned. such as what makes a man, a man. and a woman, a woman. trying tell me or retrain me if you wanna say it like that lol...at this point...no. other wise...they fuc*ing lied to me all the way back in school. and im pretty sure, 30 years ago...they were actually a little bit more trust worthy. you know...back when they actually wanted to teach facts...and to me, facts don't change..because its umm..you know...facts lol.. facts are not theories. they don't come with play room, nor a reason to need to change. its simply 2+2=4. way you change a fact is saying 2+5=4....you lie 100% about it. so but like the rest of us...boy its been a fukt up past 3 years. nods.. the day i had to not trust science any more. not like i used to anyways...they did a very big dis service to all of us and to history taboot...we don't have immune systems, post covid lol but i could of sworn, thats exactly why i never got the flu again, after getting it and never having it for over 24 years. i must of just been on an insane long stretch of good luck i suppose :) truth to it is...now days....science is done...for the most part...for money. 8 out 10 scientist, 30/60/10 mix. 30% curiosity. with 60% chasing good money...10% chasing...HUGE FUKN MONEY lol so like pharma. pharma is now only BIG pharma. and science is only as good as how much money it takes, to twist it for sinocal purposes follow the science...LMAO!! ok i'll jump right on that
@Persun_McPersonson
Жыл бұрын
@@LestatTravesty Why exactly did covid make you stop trusting scientists again? And what's this about trusting what you learned 30 years ago more than what's being said today? You do realize that a big part of science is that the consensus changes as more research is done, right? The sun was once thought to be made of gas, but now we realize it's made of plasma. There's a difference between actual facts and percieved facts, the latter changes as we figure out the truth better. Also, no scientist will claim we don't have immune systems, you're sounding like a nutty conspiracy theorist. Same goes with the funding thing. Science has _always_ been a mix of genuine research and money-fuelled bias; the trick is discerning what is what. The scientific consensus is always guided in the end by the real research.
@Error-nv2dl
4 жыл бұрын
0:04 please end me
@zacharytaylor190
3 ай бұрын
My great uncle tried to replicate the original cold fusion experiment when it was big. Like hundreds of others, he couldn't replicate it.
@artoverkill1
5 жыл бұрын
Your camera was a little tilted this time
@chrisbusenkell
3 жыл бұрын
Deuterium(D) is common enough, or used so commonly in nuclear chemistry that it earned it's own elemental sign different from Hydrogen(H). Deuterium is the second most common isotope(think version) of Hydrogen. An element with an isotope that has it's own elemental symbol is extremely rare. It can be confusing though, so if you see D2O, you're looking at heavy water, designed so by using the symbol for water made with Deuterium instead of just Hydrogen's most common isotope.
@zb3701
2 жыл бұрын
Cold fusion. Worth exploring. We'll figure it out. Eventually....
@philiphewittii2605
3 жыл бұрын
Skepticism IS the driving factor behind science and most scientific discoveries!
@dykedavis5127
4 жыл бұрын
Like cancer treatment there's more rough or speculative therapy rather than individual species analysis-based treatment modeling.
@jimconnor50
4 жыл бұрын
Blaise Pascal argued that the outcome of a wager, if significant enough, makes the wager worth the attempt. Now, he meant this as a theological argument, his famous Wager, and had something to do with heaven and hell, but we can recast the argument like this: if cold fusion could change human society so radically and make life on earth so much better, then it is worth the attempt.
@dannydetonator
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear about (Pd?) cold fusion contraversy, not because i was only 5, but we had that iron curtain rattling and drowning other censed global news out at '89-'91. You know, getting our republic back... So thanks for the update!
@martinsoos
4 жыл бұрын
Table top fusion was a joke when it came out. I laughed at two of my professors (in class) for even considering the possibility. The reason, it takes the energy of 3 sticks of dynamite to fuse 2 D2 atoms and releases 900 sticks of dynamite worth of energy once combined. Anyone that would release that much energy on a table is a fool. Back then, I was the bigger fool, I should have sold them all my ocean front property in Colorado. It's still a good chemistry problem.
@ScoopsMG
4 жыл бұрын
Yep his shirt says it all
@tonycable4560
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed you did not mention the tokamak reactor. There is a full-size reactor being built now and a documentary that you can watch about it.
@jcr912
4 жыл бұрын
The bad thing about scientific consensus is that it also holds back progress because things are skipped over and assumptions are made just to move on. Years or decades later somebody discovers the consensus was wrong about something that half of our ideas over the last decades were based had no basis at all because the assumptions were wrong. Figure out what we don't know before moving on to the next steps instead of assuming. Like the very recent discovery that the expansion of the universe is not uniform. Major problems now with ideas tied to uniform expansion, years of time wasted for many scientists.
@edhume6404
4 жыл бұрын
Alfred Wegener and moving continents. Semelweiss and childbed fever. Ulcers are caused by helicobacter pylori: all were discouraged by skepticism.
@Weissman111
2 жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with cold fusion was the idea that the palladium matrix "compressed" the deuterium making it fuse. The thing is the palladium matrix isn't a sealed system - to me, if the palladium matrix was compressed, deuterium would just leak out of the matrix as this would require less energy than overcoming the coulomb barrier.
@Ucceah
4 жыл бұрын
realistically, today, "cold" fusion would still be relatively hot. because then energy output of a fusion are mostly neutrons. and the easiest way yo capture that energy, is a molten metal cllont, heating water, to drime a steam generator.
@Balin_James
3 жыл бұрын
That intro perfectly reflects what’s happening today
@kokoleka808
5 жыл бұрын
"The Saint" starring Val Kilmer brought me here
@VeteranVandal
4 жыл бұрын
Also, there's a big energy difference between thinking superconductivity could be possible under room temperature and nuclear fusion. There's a few orders of magnitude difference between those.
@A.Lifecraft
Жыл бұрын
It is a common misconception that we where trying to recreate the conditions inside the sun in fusion reactors. The energy-output of solar fusion per volume is roughly equal to that of a common heap of rotting kitchen leftovers. This is because temperature and pressure inside the sun is basically too low to provide for steady high level fusion. The suns hydrogen only fusions occasionally when 2 atoms hit at the right speed and angle. Which is nice because now we have that stable source of energy for billions of years, while larger hotter suns burn up within milleniae. However this would not be a sufficient energy source for anything we do on earth, with fusion generators being several cubic kilometres large. Instead we provide conditions that are hotter and higher pressurized than inside the sun, doing fusion at a much higher rate, burning through a load of deuterium fuel within seconds. This is why deuterium and lithium is used as opposed to ordinary 1H as they have better fusion characteristics. Also cold fusion is reevaluated again after some guys seem to have been able to reproduce findings from the 80ies and they have some idea on why it happened. If they happen to predictably reproduce the measurements, this will be great news.
@nocomment2468
3 жыл бұрын
The description of muon cold fusion at 14:53 sounds like an analogy for a random hook-up that turns into family planning.
@jimgraham6722
3 жыл бұрын
I would have thought the Flieschman and Pons concept would be amenable to theoretical analysis, the main issue being whether the bonds in the palladium lattice are stronger than than the electromagnetic force pushing the positively charged deuterium nuclei apart. I am not expert but would have thought some knowledgeable person could have calculated this. Incidentally I am open minded on what was seen here as tunnelling, perhaps induced by high energy cosmic rays passing through the apparatus, momentarily raised energy levels in heavily loaded palladium high enough to have created occasional bursts of fusion. If it hasn't been done it might be interesting to see what happens when deuterium saturated palladium is hit with a proton beam.
@vitorbortolin6810
3 жыл бұрын
Recently, Nasa was able to do lattice fusion with a different material and using radiation.
@ramsesv5339
3 жыл бұрын
I remember writing a paper about this when I was in High School. It pissed off my English 101 professor when it was such a physics technical paper. It was fun
@karstsumpterable
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a scientist, but this story is sad. If the two researchers hadn't have rushed to publish, the news wouldn't have stigmatized this and we might have looked further into cold fusion. I don't know if we would get a Mr. Fusion out of it, but wonder what other discoveries could have been made; a better dehydrated ice-cream maybe?
@brendanh8193
4 жыл бұрын
My concern with this presentation is that it simplifies the history somewhat, at least after the initial reaction and counter reaction. That is where it really gets interesting. Careers were stalled, the schools were drawn along discipline lines (physicists versus electro chemists), but some high flying scientists stayed with the idea (John Bockris, George Miley, Peter Hagelstein). DOE, perhaps prematurely, produced a report that was the final nail in its coffin, just 9 months after its announcement (very fast). In 2004, a further review was more evenly split, but the field had been marginalized by then.
@Zarrar2802
Жыл бұрын
nobody cares
@shanewallace2564
5 ай бұрын
Turns out there's a beer, a cocktail, a vodka and a hash infused drink all called Moonshot. No double Moonshot so far though.
@NicholasNerios
5 ай бұрын
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
@88happiness
4 жыл бұрын
Oh! There's so many people who need to hear your introduction.
@worsel2113
4 жыл бұрын
I love the comparison of knowledge to a balloon. What is inside the balloon is what we know. The stuff outside the balloon is what we don't know. The skin of the balloon has those questions we have, where we realize what we don't know. When we know little, we have few questions because we are not aware of the huge amount of stuff we don't know. As we know more, the skin gets larger, as we realize the larger number of issues that we don't know.
@gvardiecky9507
3 жыл бұрын
everything is worth exploring. with out experiments that nobody think would be succesful, we would not be technological advance. i mean, there is small chance of succes, but if you do enough reasearch out side of box, you gonna achieve that some succes.
@JRS3540
4 жыл бұрын
Everything is worth exploring. If someone walked up and told me "If you wear a tutu while riding a horse at sunset a fairy will put $1.00 in your mouth while you're asleep." I'd spend a couple seconds thinking about it before I swat the idea down. Everything is possible until you prove it's not. Even then the probability could just be so low that it's unlikely instead of impossible.
@johnberry5275
4 жыл бұрын
Throughout my entire life, ever since I was [2.5] years old, I have witnessed a HUGE count of both Supernatural and Cryptid encounters. All my life, if a camera crew had simply followed behind me, then a show like 'monsterquest' would have recorded approximately [30] successful "WE FOUND IT!" episodes. Anyways, since you mentioned the possibility of seeing a fairy, I wanted to tell you that I have, as recently as 5 years ago, actually seen (at a distance of only 12 feet; directly over my head; in broad daylight; for about 3 seconds) a Flying Fairy. It was in a local public park, right next to a hedgerow of leafy trees, on a windy day, and the Flying Fairy's coloration was likewise Leafy Green. Also, in the very same public park, along the rural portion of the paved Bike Trail, approximately 7 years earlier, at the base of a tree, in a slightly swampy section, I saw a Wolpertinger (also at a distance of about 12 feet; in broad daylight.) I can tell you this. When a Flying Fairy is flying, your ears will be the first thing to notice it. Their wingbeats make a very unique "buzzing" sound. Following the "buzzing" sound with your ears, you will suddenly look up, possibly make momentary eye contact (if the Flying Fairy is trying to get your attention), and, as quickly as the Fairy showed up, it will very quickly fly away. I am 100% not kidding.
@codeman99-dev
3 жыл бұрын
Here before 1 million views. Actually, this is probably the third time I've watched this. Cool stuff.
@henryb.little3399
3 жыл бұрын
The private sector regarding science and related discoveries will never be allowed to patent or integrate new technologies. Anything that would interfere w fossil fuel production has been silenced.
@NorthOntarian
2 жыл бұрын
Everything worth exploring. so long as you accept that failure is totally an option
@Ben-mq4wx
4 жыл бұрын
Everything should be questioned. Always.
@dannybeads3672
3 жыл бұрын
The BP 2010 oil spill in the gulf was way bigger than the alaska Exxon Valdez spill, right? Or did you just mean it was the biggest oil spill in history up to that point?
@HifiCentret
3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the day I can add a Mr. Fusion to my Delorean. Since the flux capacitor probably never will be invented I'm stuck just powering an electric motor with Mr. Fusion - but hey even that would be quite awesome!
@sweiland75
3 жыл бұрын
If only more people thought this way.
@27philippe
4 жыл бұрын
worth exploring for sure. I think its just a matter of time before a way is found to produce muons easier.
@Hei1Bao4
4 жыл бұрын
Empirical skepticism is the dogma of science. This is mostly good. The only problem is that there are also events that we can't reproduce or control, and thus fall outside the realm of what science can do. At least with our current understanding of physics. I would love to study certain phenomenon that are widely known to exist, but are shrouded from scientific study. I have a specific phenomenon in mind, as it is one I have witnessed occuring a number of times. I expect it would open up new worlds to us if we could do something about the stigma attached to it.
@bitrage.
3 жыл бұрын
That is true, Any person of intelligence understands that for the most part a person specializing in a field and has dedicated most of there professional life in the area will know or have tried most "ideas"... It is possible that another person with a fraction less knowledge could bring up an idea that was missed because of "tunnel vision", but that dont happen as often as we would like.
@kimballmarlow4661
3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting, but even though we call it cold it generates massive heat. All this heat destroys the whole set up fairly quickly. So you build a Meow generator. The heat generated eats it alive fairly fast. Traveling any distance is going to be a joke, because the non stop repairs caused by heat damage are going to leave the engine looking like a rusted out muffler. Transferring the 10,000 degrees quick enough to protect the overall engine, and dissipate the excess into space in the IR spectrum is more difficult than every other operation of the engine.
@sandeepnath9504
3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make a video on NASA's new dicovery on lattice confinement fussion it works on same pricipal of the muons thing that you said as far as I saw it it seemed so but I am a rookie as well as a fresher in this field but I would love to see how it works and how they are planning to expand its use
@nigelolsen2010
3 жыл бұрын
It is my understaning that cosmic rays interacting with earth's atmosphere generate muons, some of which can reach the surface of the earth in their tiny lifetime. Could these somehow be utilized instead of the massive outlay of energy to generate them?
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