"Soon after dying Sheppard visits a club called afterlife" lol. Just got that.
@Powersd451
5 жыл бұрын
@@khellum1268 Holy fuck. What happened in your life to make you such an upset manchild?
@unceasingcape
5 жыл бұрын
@@khellum1268 troll
@Bjorick
5 жыл бұрын
never really thought of that either, OP, and it looks quite a bit like hell, lol
@Desolas_
4 жыл бұрын
@@Powersd451 Now, I'm actually curious what he said. (I'm too late to see it...)
@Powersd451
4 жыл бұрын
@@Desolas_ honestly, I don't remember and wonder myself.
@ScriptZac
8 жыл бұрын
To me, the first flash of greatness in this series is when the turian Spectre Nihlus has this look of stoic surprise when the first image of Sovereign flashes on screen. So much conveyed with a mandible twitch.
@mydloSA
8 жыл бұрын
its awesome that players can share emotions
@teddybeddy123
7 жыл бұрын
That twitch he does is something that has always intrigued me and something I look forward to see each time I play through the trilogy- what a work of art Bioware created!
@tcrpgfan
7 жыл бұрын
It's all because they actually thought about how the characters would move, like knowing that Salarians blink upwards. Weird, but again, shows how the characters would move.
@cheezybrotherstudios
7 жыл бұрын
ScriptZac I haven't played ME1 in 3 years but I know the exact twitch you're talking about. It's god tier character animation.
@fuckyoutubecomments7530
5 жыл бұрын
I think all the turians do that twitch, shows they actually thought about body language for each alien. It even makes it into andromeda!
@Spvrinnaeli
2 жыл бұрын
For a video from 2014 with all the expected technical issues, this is a remarkable critical piece of content. Unlike others that require five hours of your time and justify 20 minutes of it, you do not waste your words explaining to the audience that which they should already know; the plot, characters, circumstances etc. beyond maybe a sentence or two; if you're watching a two hour video analysis on the series, it's conceivable you're familiar with the source material. You earn every single minute of your runtime with your commentary and it's a breath of fresh air in 2022. This isn't to say I agree with all of your points, but I can at least see them as reasonable given the framework you're obviously working within. Well done.
@Knight1029
2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why I like Noah a lot. I get so much out of his videos even is longer videos are filled with insight.
@feralhistorian
Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was a monumental blunder to do the whole dead kid, Starchild, forced emotional connection thing when all they had to do at the end was have either Ashley or Kaiden as the Reaper's chosen face, whichever one died in game 1. Throw in a dream about the dead comrade instead of chasing random kid and there, emotional connection consistent with the character and relevant to the player using assets they already had.
@itcouldbelupus2842
Жыл бұрын
Damn, that's so true. I can't believe they didn't think of that, it seems obvious when you say it like that. Brilliant idea.
@aw2584
11 ай бұрын
@@itcouldbelupus2842youre forgetting that EAs whole idea behind ME3 (and ME2 to an extent) was to make both games accessible to newcomers. Meaning such an idea was most likely brought up but shot down because it would make majority of target audience confused as they never played ME1. and before you yell goddamn corporate bullshit, the truth is... A LOT of people, perhaps even the majority, never played ME1 and started their journey from ME2 or even ME3. And even if they tried M1, a lot of them were discouraged by its outdated mechanics.
@itcouldbelupus2842
11 ай бұрын
@@aw2584 yeah good point. I've thought about OP's idea as time went on and to be honest, I don't think it's that good on its own merit. It seems like a more clever and relevant emotional anchor but it's a pretty Saturday morning cartoon story beat, and the player will be so far removed from those choices and deaths by the end of the third game that it would be just as jarring as this weird kid. I don't think the random kid is that bad an idea, it's mostly the poor execution.
@GeezNutz
3 ай бұрын
I don't know that we needed the star child part, but Shep be haunted by the death of a child he couldn't save is excellent. The constant torment that no matter how hard they push themselves, no matter the sacrifices they've made to get to that point, people are scared and helpless and dying all day, every day. Could've even tied that in to their guilt of leaving behind Ash or Kaiden by having one of the dreams be the child running into their arms and then the Reapers choosing that image at the end.
@kingretard100
Ай бұрын
They both suck though so...nah I third party was needed just not starchild
@philippowell8273
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how good the Legendary Edition was with all the DLC integrated. Would love for that to have been my first experience cause it’s just so complete.
@aleksapetrovic6519
2 жыл бұрын
Hey can I ask you some stuff about Origin and Uplay?
@Outplayedqt
Жыл бұрын
@@aleksapetrovic6519 sure
@aleksapetrovic6519
Жыл бұрын
@@Outplayedqt I got most answers, but it doesn't hurt to check one more time. 1. How reliable are they? I've heard Uplay had problem with connectivity, but most people told me Originis is reliable, especially with saved games (at least for Dragon Age). 2. Are both launchers safe? I remember both launchers in the past had issues of conerning privacy, but most people at least for Origins confirmed to me that they are as safe as GoG and Steam. 3. Are they reliable with the library? Many people told me Origins never had issue with removing games from your library, unless you play licanced games as EA was very short-sighted with Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings licence, but everything else is safe (Mass Effect, Command and Conquer, Spore). Ubisoft on the other hand had a habit of removing entire games and dlcs at the whim and as far as I can see they are doing it again. 4. Do they have sales? From what I understand both Origins and Uplay don't have sales of their own, but rather follow Steam, GoG sales and anniversary discounts. As you can see, I mostly got some picture by asking people, but every opinion counts, so if you have something to add, disaprove or simply want to express your opinion I am willing to hear it. Every advice is welcomed.
@johnstaton5524
Жыл бұрын
Experiencing mass effect for the first. Completely fresh never played it when it first came out
@williamdufort176
Жыл бұрын
I'm playing through for this first time having Zaeed or whatever his grizzled veteran ass is named. NGL, he has kind of replaced Garrus...
@LackingSaint
10 жыл бұрын
Great video! A small note; Tali is 24, not 19, in Mass Effect 2. Commander Shepard is established in the lore to be 29 when he died in ME1, making him either the same age or 31 depending on if you count the years he was a carcass as years of his life. So it's not as weird as you'd think.
@malcolmcooke7131
4 жыл бұрын
jack saint in the wild
@conmanreloaded4249
4 жыл бұрын
Malcolm Cooke found 6 years after he posted the comment
@malcolmcooke7131
4 жыл бұрын
Conman Reloaded to be fair he posted this long before he was an actual KZitem person so there was no reason for it to be a thing before
@TeddyKrimsony
3 жыл бұрын
Shepard looks 40 years old
@X3105i
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeddyKrimsony we are talking about the mass effect series the faces well should not be taken at face value (hehehe) like look at Shepard face in any sex scene (it's scary)
@textbookidiocy3896
5 жыл бұрын
In 2019, but whatever, it's a good video that i want to share something on. Overlord, that DLC hit me. I have what used to be called Asperger's syndrome, now a part of the umbrella term Autism Spectrum diagnosis. For example: social interaction is a struggle, eye-hand coordination difficult and last but most important in this instance: I feel little empathy. At the time overlord came out i was an emotionally stunted person, i cared for little more than my immediate family and the few friends i had, every other person was a number, unimportant, inconsequential.. I was selfish, constantly angry, self-hating and any other negative thing you might think of. You might ask, what the hell does this have to do with overlord? I saw David in myself. For the first time i saw a character that represented a part of myself that has been tempered by learning.. And then i saw how he was abused by the one person he trusted implicitly. All i felt was rage and sorrow. For the first time, i felt true empathy for a person not at all connected to me by bonds of friendship or family. Games has taught me much, English, Math, History and so many other things... But this one character opened that one part of me i thought i was simply incapable of opening. Thanks for reading my little story.
@nsalegit9482
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Hope you're doing well.
@happydan20
10 жыл бұрын
Your voice reminds me of a 60 or 70's broadcaster, back when there was gravitas in that role. i didn't expect to listen to the entire thing, but your rhythm and insightful commentary is top notch.
@broadcaststsatic
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@grndmst9
9 жыл бұрын
Noah Caldwell-Gervais Really, Noah, he's right. You remind me quite a bit of the saying my family has always used to describe me, and that's being "An old soul", and after reading about you working 50hr weeks, having only a GED, dealing with not having the a *relevant* education and *relevant* experience to be hired to do what you want to do, I can't help but to subconsciously sit here and nod my head in mirror-like understanding being in an almost identical situation like I am, including the fact I'm raising a newborn son. Just wanted to say, I understand the struggle my friend. I have subscribed and will spread the word about you, your name, and your astonishingly unique charisma, AAA++ writing and pacing abilities. Keep fighting the good fight, Noah! As Three Dog would say! Haha.
@michaelweston3349
5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thank you! I wanted to make the exact same comment. It has the pacing and pitch of a 1970's reporter. I also 100% agree that the content is excellent.
@Gaberaum
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelweston3349 Exactly, I kept remembering of some recordings I once heard from a filosopher called Allan Watts lol
@TheAwesome45
3 жыл бұрын
His mic does sound from that era.
@SubBrief
8 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel, and I have say, I'm very impressed. Your understanding of Game mechanics, Philosophy and Storytelling makes for very good game reviews.
@tropicthunder131
7 жыл бұрын
Happy to see that one of my favorite streamers likes one of my favorite video essayists. Love your content Jive/Noah!
@sngore1
9 жыл бұрын
So I am only 20min into this video... so far I like a lot of what has been said, especially about Wrex. But I have to disagree about the assessment of Kaiden. At first I thought he was/would be boring. But the more I talked to him, the more I romanced him, and the more I thought about it I now believe he is very fascinating. Yes, he represents the struggles of biotics and what happened when humans tried to play "catch-up" to the other alien races. But he is also the extreme opposite of Ashley in that he is completely accepting. He, unlike Ashley, actually HAS a reason to dislike other races, he was abused by a Turian! He also has every reason to hate the Alliance for their treatment of the biotics that they screwed up and abandoned, but he doesn't. He sees the big picture and enacts forgiveness. I think Kaiden is more of the "Strong and Silent" type, which may make him seem boring at first glance next to the outspoken Ashley. But his capacity to accept, forgive, and tolerate proves that he may be far more interesting than Ashley. Ashley is easy to understand and too shallow as a character, Kaiden is a bit deeper and more complex.
@davidcolby167
5 жыл бұрын
Yaaay, someone else likes Kaiden!
@adamplentl5588
5 жыл бұрын
Naw fam Kaidan sucks.
@JohnsDough1918
5 жыл бұрын
@@adamplentl5588 ok, but no. He's great.
@fuzzydunlop7928
5 жыл бұрын
@@adamplentl5588 I like how you did that thing where someone puts thought and effort into something and you say next to nothing with zero effort and thought and think it matters in comparison.
@fouronetwo813
4 жыл бұрын
Ashley has no reason to mistrust aliens? Other than the fact that the Turians are responsible for destroying her grandfather's life and ruining her family name I guess not. She has more reason to hate aliens than Kaidan who acciendently kicked to death a Turian who was mean to his highschool sweetheart. Yet she still doesn't hate, she just isn't an idealistic fool.
@paynexkiller
8 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace, Marauder Shields.
@bruhSaintJohn
8 жыл бұрын
A hero we all needed.
@roykeeley
7 жыл бұрын
Even though I was okay with the ending, this meme is the greatest. Rest in spaghetti never forghetti!
@FinntheHuman131
7 жыл бұрын
His name was Marauder Shields
@jebes909090
7 жыл бұрын
We took thier best fish and chips. you and jeff came so hard on thier faces.
@zetetick395
7 жыл бұрын
o>
@SavagesInMyTown
8 жыл бұрын
a 2 hour video with a table of contents and time stamps? subbed
@TheMelancholicWriter
8 жыл бұрын
SavagesInMyTown I know right? I'm only 5 minutes in after discovering this dude and have already subbed! He's definitely thorough and well organised with his analysis of the trilogy. Currently adding some of his other vids to my Watch Later to view when I can't sleep.
@UncleBlerd
7 жыл бұрын
SavagesInMyTown refreshing AF!
@Fischstix95
9 жыл бұрын
Have you faced an Asari commando unit before? Few humans have.
@xlChronos
8 жыл бұрын
You wont look so smug with a hole in your head
@hendrikc.5984
7 жыл бұрын
I will destroy you!
@AIIEYESONME
6 жыл бұрын
I will destroy you!
@dankusmemeus7093
6 жыл бұрын
Lets all admit that line was so cheesy that we all face palmed when she said it
@gidioter
6 жыл бұрын
asari commando copypasta when
@spiraljumper74
3 жыл бұрын
Replayed the entire trilogy because I've got that Covid time, and I've gotta say- the jump from 2 to 3 is no joke. It's actually brilliant. Landing on Mars for the first time in 3 with my level 30 Vanguard powerhouse Shephard and immediately destroying everything with charges and nova punches was a fucking amazing feeling, and it only got better. Letting you start out at the peak of your power from 2, better even, with the improved mechanics and powers, was a genius move.
@JoaoVictor-rg5ix
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed my friend!
@fuzzballfoxonionring6729
8 жыл бұрын
2:25:25 I think it's not just the matter of emotional disconnect between the ending and the rest of the series. Maybe it's just me, but the core problem I have with the ending as presented is that the core narrative theme of the series seems to be about defying destiny. The entirety of ME3 *feels* like it's building up to a point where you can finally stand up and face the Reapers down, and with the addition of all the extra information we get from Leviathan about the true nature of the Reapers, it seems a perfectly logical course to actually philibuster the villain to death, to put it in very crude metaphorical terms. Instead, the game utterly removes your ability to argue the Catalyst's fundamentally flawed, prejudiced, racial-supremacist programming and demonstrably incorrect assumptions. You can't use any of the events of the series to prove that synthetic and organic life _can_ co-exist peacefully. You can't show it that even after wars, even after genocide, even after everything the galaxy has gone through, the disparate races can be brought to cooperate and flourish peacefully together. You can't say "but look at what I accomplished *just to spite YOU*" and make the Catalyst realize the ultimately self-defeating nature of its very programming. Nope. Genocide, despotism, or unwilling mass mutations. Pick one. If you defy, you die. The end. There is no We Win ending. You can't win. You can't beat them, only accept what they give you. That feels absolutely antithetical to the entirety of all three games.
@xBINARYGODx
8 жыл бұрын
Just to focus on one part of your (the OP's) post, but why is what the Catalyst think wrong or the other ways you describe it? It has been around for billions of years at this point and has seen the same thing go down over and over and over again - probably even see some temporary alliances like the one you assume will last forever with the Geth, only for it to ultimately end the same way. Rather presumptuous of US to think that anything Shepard (we) accomplish is not something done many, many times before, that still leads to synths eventually wiping out their creators (synth life evolved much faster and will at some point will view biologics how humans view rats or cockroaches, or even after enough time - microbes). Maybe the only alternative is being robbed of free will so we can be protected 'for our own good'. Really, the idea (IMO) doesn't suck, the execution is just horrible - which is what I think the real problem with the original ending (it's like they ran out of money and had to do something quick).
@xBINARYGODx
8 жыл бұрын
@Jallorn - a role playing game is a game that gives you agency in your role in the game, that is, a choice of role in the combat and the story. Each mass effect is as much a role playing game as any other. I think people need to stop judging the worth of RPG's on the trappings the genre traditionally has had (stats, trees, inventory, traditional dialogue choices, etc.).
@xBINARYGODx
8 жыл бұрын
***** The definition I just gave is something of a distillation, but I don't think it is really wrong, per say. Regardless it IS relevant to your post - the part I was replying to: "it goes back to the shift in the mechanical focus of the third game away from roleplaying elements to more of an action adventure kind of game" (I don't feel most of what you said later in the post or the reply to me really elaborates meaningfully on this point - you claim and say general things that I do not agree with, concerning ME3). Interestingly, I have seen statements like this generally, and incorrectly I feel, applied to the second game vs the first. And just as with those people in the 1vs2 comparison, I feel yours wrt 1&2vs3 is still more about mechanics (the convo wheel) and design decisions that may do "RPG" differently, but the game is just as 'RPG' as the other two. "My point is that as a franchise ME1+2 are centered around shaping the story, shaping your reaction to the events around you, and being an important person who can shape the world." I seem to recall this same sort of stuff happening in 3 - you make some rather large decisions concerning the Geth and the Crogen for example - and it's not like there is nothing to the outcomes or aftermath of them either. The only thing the 3 did wrong, I feel, was not have way more information concerning the aftermath of the final decision at the end. I was fine with the game until the credit started to roll and then I literally said out loud to my tv "wait, that's it?" I was expected a final cut scene or sorts that was like the modular cut scene in 2 when you begin the suicide mission. Anyway, I don't think ME1/2/3 are good examples of RPG's that stop being RPG's to become action adventures - the postchild for such right now is basically anything Bethesda makes.
@professorhuggins5418
8 жыл бұрын
I've seen this argument a lot. my issue is that it assumes that a couple of things. first, that this video game would have allowed for players to make any possible choice they want. that would be patently impossible in game design, to allow for so many variables and let the player make whatever choice they want. the second point is the reapers are set up so that they are an enemy that is virtually unkillable, at least by conventional means. the only time that the alliance has any success is when written in the codex's and describes how it took incredible sacrifice and ingenuity just to force a minor victory. and in spite of that, the reapers are barely set back. they are a nigh unbeatable force. even after Shepard marshals all of his diplomatic forces, they are still doomed to failure. there is a lesson within that. sometimes, in spite of our triumphs and desire, we just can't win by fighting. another approach is needed at the end. if Shepard could simply give the star child the bird and then go back to fighting and then the forces of this age went on to win, that would have ruined the reapers. they would have meant very little. their threat was one of militaristic and existential issue. i don't know how it could be any other way.
@Reubel
8 жыл бұрын
"There is no We Win ending. You can't win. You can't beat them, only accept what they give you." And therein lies the beauty.
@raylast3873
7 жыл бұрын
There are no words for how much I despise Kai Leng as a character.
@nomadjensen8276
4 жыл бұрын
Cerberus thanks you for your cooperation.
@skyhawkslcb18
3 жыл бұрын
right?!?! and for all the wrong reasons.
@johncarter7264
3 жыл бұрын
Fuck that ninja bullshit.
@blitzphantom9488
3 жыл бұрын
He’s not that bad, never loved him as a character but he’s a decent boss type character I’m the game.
@raylast3873
3 жыл бұрын
@@blitzphantom9488 he‘s terrible in every way.
@azzgunther
10 жыл бұрын
I liked this video so much I disabled ad blocker and reloaded just to make sure you got a hit. Turns out the video is not even monetized. You're a cool guy, Noah Gervais.
@broadcaststsatic
10 жыл бұрын
KZitem just doesn't pay. The volume I'd have to bring in to turn any kind of profit is just totally unrealistic to my chosen format-- but being okay with that just frees me up to do whatever, and being able to do whatever is pretty liberating. So, thanks!
@azzgunther
10 жыл бұрын
Noah Caldwell-Gervais I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt the urge to provide extra incentive to make more of these, even though your motivation obviously isn't financial. A tip jar would probably help you recoup some of the cost of the games. I'm thinking right now about all the Steam sale games people spend $4 bucks on then play for an hour - or the movies people buy for $10 and watch once. This is a greatly superior piece of work.
@mungojerrie86
10 жыл бұрын
Noah Caldwell-Gervais BTW, why won't you open a patreon account? I'm sure some people would love to support you.
@Looneyboy
5 жыл бұрын
Monetized now LOL
@doghat1619
4 жыл бұрын
@@Looneyboy It's likely not Noah collecting the ad revenue. Copyright holders can claim non-monetized videos and force them to turn on ads and collect the income themselves. Though I admit I don't know if this would happen in a video game review video.
@TheSkyline5467
7 жыл бұрын
The white hair of your dude in ME3 is comical beyond description.
@hariman7727
4 жыл бұрын
Even considering the blatantly generic Manshep options, the Drowshep option was... jarring every time I saw him. It didn't help that I played through as Femshep (because Jennifer Hale's voice acting), so every time Noah said "he" for Shepherd part of me wanted to yell "SHE! She! Shepherd is a she!" because I got so used to using and thinking "her" in regards to my playthroughs.
@MrDaketa
7 жыл бұрын
When Jack says "We've had a damm good run" and Shepard says "The best", I seriously almost tear up.
@SinnohGreen
4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t think it was gonna get me but it did.
@Rakshiir
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, even worse for me was the talk with Tali, as she was my romance option my first playthrough. The voice acting was just stelar, her simple "I want more time" while tearing up hit me like a truck.
@aquilahd2319
4 жыл бұрын
Daketa 34813 When Cap Anderson said “You did good child. You did good I’m proud of you.” That’s what got me
@smokingone
4 жыл бұрын
yea it seemed like that phrase lost meaning in ME3 when at the end of the party (citadel DLC) Tali says the exact same thing Jack did in ME2 and shepard replies "the best" again......even though i HATED Jack in ME2 it still hit hard.
@Glassandcandy
3 жыл бұрын
SPOILER FOR MASS EFFECT 3: That was me when mordin sacrificed himself while singing Gilbert and Sullivan. That was always a funny little bit to me back in me2, I never thought it would literally make me cry later in the series. Goddamn, when BioWare does well they do DAMN well.
@ShmeeBlarg
9 жыл бұрын
OK dude seriously you need to go work for a publishing house recording studio and just read books into a microphone for a living. I could listen to you for hours at a crack and your dry humor mixed with your equally unenthusiastic tone make for multiple roll on the floor clutching my sides moments.
@zeldaoot23
9 жыл бұрын
Matthew Skidmore Totally. The "plug and play" comment about EDI was a hilarious surprise.
@VenomGamingCenter
5 жыл бұрын
I think what also helps the ME trilogy be so good is it's music and the music direction throughout the games. One track that Always stays with me is Vigil. The piece from ME1's main menu and when you actually meet the VI Vigil towards the end of the game. IT's a very emotive and thought provoking piece for me and when you can hear it at later points in the other games it always gives me the shivers, I love it. As a side note, the piano piece that Liara plays during the Citadel DLC is actually the piano version of Vigil.
@Reliken
11 ай бұрын
Same, I could sleep to Vigil for hours
@matthewdreier3282
3 жыл бұрын
"feels like years since I just sat down" Shepard who just got done partying in the citidel 😬
@obbeachbum69
10 жыл бұрын
Not to blow smoke up your ass, but Jesus fucking Christ Noah, you make some of the best videos on KZitem.
@vallraffs
8 жыл бұрын
Why hasn't Noah done a video on the Star Wars: Old Republic series yet? It seems so obvious.
@remembertotakeshowerspleas355
8 жыл бұрын
Or the battlefront and jedi knight games? I grew up with BF 1-2 and Jedi academy so I'd really like to see him do a video on the subjects
@theengine
4 жыл бұрын
@samplexample "And then you shoot a stormtrooper and then you shoot a stormtrooper and then... you shoot a wookie."
@thirdcoinedge
6 ай бұрын
Congratulations, he now has!
@herman1francis
7 жыл бұрын
Mordin is the biggest hero in the saga in my opinion. He's a man ( a salarian ) who confronts his responsabilities, who understands the consequences of his acts, and decides to make a good out of a wrong at the sacrifice of his own life, even has the balls to say no to the Sheppard. Always brings a tear to my eye, he really was the very model of a scientist salarian.
@Zalintis
6 ай бұрын
Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
@herman1francis
6 ай бұрын
@@Zalintis i was playing renegade on my first playthrough and I couldn't bring myself to shoot mordin. When he took the elevator all I could think was "Godspeed you goddamned hero"
@Phanthief95
9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't blame Bioware about the problems with Mass Effect 3. The people from there love the Mass Effect series. The only problem is with their publishers: EA. EA is actually the company who made Bioware write a new ending after the leak. They also rushed Bioware to finish the game quicker, and they are the ones who set the pricing for DLC. So don't blame Bioware for Mass Effect 3's problems, blame EA. They aren't called one of the worst companies in the world to work in for nothing.
@Heishirosuke
8 жыл бұрын
Preach!
@fy8798
8 жыл бұрын
+Felix De La Cruz This. Screwing up the original ending is what led to the bad ending in the first place.
@JRyan56
8 жыл бұрын
+Felix De La Cruz Yes, let's forget about the writers from Bioware fucking up the story.
@Harry_S._Plinkett
8 жыл бұрын
Being rushed isn't an excuse for poor writing. Obsidian was rushed with KotOR II and Fallout New Vegas, but both are amazingly well written.
@ShootingStar1313
8 жыл бұрын
I don't blame Bioware, but I am worried about the next mass effect. Also, adding multiplayer in ME3 and Dragon age 3? Was that necessary?
@davemarx7856
8 жыл бұрын
BioWare is still an exceptional development team. EA is a deplorable company.
@Harry_S._Plinkett
8 жыл бұрын
EA eats ass.
@xBINARYGODx
8 жыл бұрын
+Harry S. Plinkett Having your ass eaten feels good. Therefore, that is not something EA is capable of doing. Please, use your logic! ;-)
@Quole1234
8 жыл бұрын
+Dave Marx Lmao Bioware is a joke of a company.
@ArvelDreth
7 жыл бұрын
+The Dovahk Which games have you played?
@xBINARYGODx
7 жыл бұрын
"BioWare" exists in name only, now. There is no Bioware, only Zuul.
@dylanhumphrey3720
8 жыл бұрын
Damn, now I feel bad about not letting Garrus win.
@headphonic8
8 жыл бұрын
Nah, he doesn't seem like the type to want to be babied. He seems like the type who respects people for their own merits and wants to be treated the same.
@agent42q
7 жыл бұрын
that's why it's more interesting to me to give him an inch. Especially since Shepard being better at everything is such an annoying fact of you being a video game protagonist to begin with.
@personette3226
7 жыл бұрын
Bizarrely, I've been feeling disgruntled about letting Garrus win--like, c'mon dude, why do you need to score points off of me? I was romancing him and in retrospect, this really rankled. But now I feel better! He's always proud to be Shepherd's #2. He deserves the win.
@TheMMObro
7 жыл бұрын
Dylan Humphrey i didn't let him win either bc i don't like being dishonest, and i didn't wanna feel like i was pitying garrus who doesn't need or deserve pity. letting someone win is when that someone is a child that you're trying to build confidence in, and even then you can't let them always win or they'll start to expect it (imo). all that being said i wish garrus won organically
@Jin-qx9pt
7 жыл бұрын
I like to take that choice not as an intentional miss, but as a matter of what my Shepard is really good at. If I'm playing an infiltrator, I take the shot- in that case, being handy with a sniper is Shepard's defining trait just as much as it is Garrus'. But if I'm playing, well, any other class except maybe Soldier, I "intentionally" miss the shot, because this Shepard isn't a sniper and probably *would* miss the shot. Either Garrus is reminded that he's still not the very best sniper in the galaxy and should stay on his game, or he gets to remind himself that there *are* things he can do better than Shep. A bit more of that sort of thing throughout the series would have been nice, actually. As much as I appreciated the Engineer special scenes in Omega and Citadel, it also kind of drew attention to the fact that your class and specialties kind of stopped existing as soon as you hit a cutscene.
@seroccoprime2774
9 жыл бұрын
2:11:21 - 2:13:13 That is the exact same audio found through 2:23:10 - 2:24:59. Like, exactly the same. Even the same "She-shepard" slip-up.
@cranialtoxicity4434
9 жыл бұрын
That caused a lot of confusion for me, I kept skipping around to see whether or not I was losing my mind.
@nathanmontgomery7865
5 жыл бұрын
Make a video that long and you gonna make some mistakes
@EspressoStalinist
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I thought I was going crazy for a second!
@aTalkingKoala8294
4 жыл бұрын
Bound to happen in long form content. This video was very accurate, so a repetitive mistake is easily overlooked. All in all, this is video essay work at its best.
@Lifelover992011
4 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this, I was sure I had some weird kind of deja vu
@Shezmen88
5 жыл бұрын
1:19:00 "Cut me a fucking break." XD Priceless.
@d3lvn
9 жыл бұрын
"Kaiden, on the other hand, is agressively boring." So true it hurts.
@Glamuel
5 жыл бұрын
He gets better in 3 and Ashley becomes more boring lol
@megamike15
5 жыл бұрын
@@Glamuel thats due to ashly having a different writer. kaiden gets character development while ashly just falls back on stuff we learned in 1 and did not really change like the rest of the me 1 cast.
@megamike15
5 жыл бұрын
also replaying me 1 recently i see what they were going for with kaiden. people complained about carth whining so they made a character who already dealt with his past and functions like a normal human.
@ryanc5572
5 жыл бұрын
@@megamike15 Of course she changed. Her biggest change was growing out of her racism.
@AuthorityCat
5 жыл бұрын
Wrong but ok
@bobbill3594
8 жыл бұрын
This is a truly AMAZING achievement of content creation, Noah. As a huge Mass Effect fan I tip my hat to you, you've brought elements to my attention that even I had never seen. Thank you very much for this Video, and I'll no doubt be looking into the rest of your channel in the next while. The detail you go into is truly refreshing, your analysis is superior to most content I find on KZitem. Well Done.
@remembertotakeshowerspleas355
8 жыл бұрын
I would like you're comment but I'm on mobile
@automaticocelot452
4 жыл бұрын
Mass Effect 1: 0:49 ME1, Bring Down the Sky: 19:28 ME1 Continued: 20:53 Mass Effect 2: 30:56 ME2, Kasumi's Stolen Memory: 1:01:53 ME2, Lair of the Shadow Broker: 1:03:01 ME2, Overlord: 1:05:52 ME2, The Arrival: 1:08:30 ME2, Continued: 1:12:29 Mass Effect 3: 1:21:10 ME3, From Ashes: 1:55:11 ME3, Leviathan: 1:58:51 ME3, Omega: 2:02:38 ME3, Citadel: 2:04:46 ME3-- Climax/Indoctrination Theory/Mass Effect 4?: 2:11:20 Mobile user, so for my own convenience I'm copy-pasting the timestamps in the comment.
@themilanguy1
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@scionix123
9 жыл бұрын
I find it curious that you didn't really discuss how much of the "completeness" of the ME series comes from DLC. I've always thought that was a pretty selfish design decision; after ME1, if you're not buying the DLC, you're getting a far inferior story. Did you not have a problem with this aspect of the series, or was there just not enough time to address it? You mentioned you had to drop 260$ for the whole series, but that was it.
@maverickay5807
4 жыл бұрын
For real
@slojcabronas858
4 жыл бұрын
tbh Citadel is one of the best dlc I've ever seen
@Deolrin
3 жыл бұрын
(five years later) In the video he does mention quite often that many of the decisions in Mass Effect 3 were marketing and sales focused. He brings up how much money he spent on the trilogy as the ultimate example of that. At the end of the day I believe Noah's message is simple - the game is _good_, but immoral and abusive to the customer. From here on out make your own decision - take it or leave it.
@slojcabronas858
3 жыл бұрын
@@Deolrin tbh Mass Effect 3 choices (aside from the final one) were more interesting then most in previous games.
@Alkadius1993
3 жыл бұрын
He mentions it in his video about Andromeda; about how he’s tired of having to wait for a complete BioWare experience, paying for all the dlc
@Sandokan4
9 жыл бұрын
Good video, now i have the urge to replay the trilogy again
@watchinginaz
9 жыл бұрын
+Khan I get that urge every few months
@StevesSammiches
8 жыл бұрын
+watchinginaz Same, but getting used to the combat system in ME1 and dealing with the massive inventory makes me wish they could re-release it with a bit more polish.
@StandingNomad
8 жыл бұрын
+MrWillarti A more polished ME1 would be fantastic. I've played ME2 and ME3 probably four times now but I've only ever played the first game once. The story is probably the best of bunch but the combat, inventory and mako are just so clunky to control. I've tried to replay the first game but after a few hours I realize I'm not having fun and end up skipping straight to ME2 with all the DLC.
@StevesSammiches
8 жыл бұрын
StandingNomad I think EA actively stated that there will be no HD remake, surprise surprise. www.techtimes.com/articles/61365/20150618/e3-2015-dont-expect-a-mass-effect-hd-remaster-any-time-soon.htm Still, like you said, it'd be great to have a streamlined ME1 with ME2 combat.I tried doing a complete series renegade run through but gave up after the walls of text, clunky controls and Femshep being overly defensive with each speech choice.
@Topdawg42
Жыл бұрын
I love watching these videos and hearing the hope in your voice for what became Andromeda...
@mousasha-
Жыл бұрын
Andromeda coulda been so fucking good... what a shame it was such a letdown
@TheSkyline5467
7 жыл бұрын
"Hold on to your butts folks, because it's Commander Shepard's day off." LOL, great work man. I'm loving this.
@raylast3873
7 жыл бұрын
"The cannons Garrus has spent an impossible amount of time calibrating-" so true.
@hariman7727
4 жыл бұрын
If you consider that Shepherd can add at least a half a dozen different parts to the ship, and make other modifications along the way, Garrus has to be going mad with how often he needs to recalibrate those cannons.
@serialkiller1990
9 жыл бұрын
1. Alternative ending. The leaking of the script in fall of 2011 had nothing to do with dropping the ending. In fact it is available online, and most changes are cosmetic. The dark energy ending was dropped long before and it is one big question mark. I don't see why people would be so enamored with it, other than it is not the ending we got. From what i read about it it would have subverted the main conflict, just like the one we got did. And subverted all the choices, just like the original did. Either humanity dies and universe survives, or humanity survives a little longer and universe dies. Yes. There is a unfired Chekhovs gun's in case of Heastrom, but arguably the organic-synthetic conflict is far more both foreshadowed and fleshed out, than anything about "dark energy". Yes biotics are very prominent in the books, and it is alluded that Reapers are interested in biotics, but there is no answer why, and no connection to dark energy. And I am convinced that there is no good answer. What BioWare was planning was a end of the world scenario, that somehow hinges on natural evolution of organics from a single galaxy, and humans in particular. It is a sort of house of cards, that basically a few basic questions would make fall apart. Even if there is some way to make it believable, I simply don't have any faith that they would be able to pull it of, judging by their performance in ME3 in particular. They are not Obsidian. And it isn't as though the ending we got could not have been better. I think it might have been made believable if what it was saying was properly shown and reinforce throughout the games. 2. Shepard's death I strongly disagree with the assertion that Shepard had to die because of the changes between ME1 and ME2. I think making such a choice for gameplay reasons is a very bad reason in a RPG game, that is known for its story. I like the scene. I'm used to it and I wouldn't throw Shepard's death out, as some would. It is dramatic and all. But I don't like how it was mishandled. What new Shepard? It is the same Shepard, but with cybernetics, that don't play any role in gameplay or narrative. I don't really see the significance, especially why it would override story. And again. The main problem is, how poorly it was handled. -The destruction of the Normandy could still have occurred. -Shepard could still be killed. -The squad could still be broken up. -Shepard could still be gone for 2 years. -He/she could still undergo Lazarus and be outfitted with cybernetics. -And could still be forced to join Cerberus in the end. You could even still have the excuse to change his/her face or give him/her a sex-change. Sort of silly since Shepard is supposed to be rebuilt "exactly as they were before", but if you really want that then, there you go. All that had to happen was for Shepard to be put in a stasis pod, and then a damaged escape pod. And there are many was how to achieve that, and many different ways in which this, or most of this can be achieved. Shepard crashing into the planet as dramatic as it is, is the biggest problem of the scene. It puts into questions whether there could be even anything left of his body. The second problem is that it has no role in the story, other than being a plot device, that didn't even need to be there. There could be some very interesting dialogue about the process, or how Shepard feels about the thing. There could have been some plot relevance. But there was none. As though killing and resurrecting a protagonist is no big deal. 3. ME2 plot It is ironic that as the budget of ME games gone up after acquiring by EA, the quality of the writing had gone down. ME2's plot is disjointed at best. Shepard just gathers a team, not even knowing what fighting the Collectors entails. There is also no connection between various plot missions and Shepard's actions. The only exception is recovering the IFF, and attacking through the relay. This isn't some insurmountable problem. A lot of them could be fixed by rewriting a line, or adding a few, but we don't get that. Loyalty Missions and not the problem here. I like them. I think ME is better for them, but the problem if they and fleshing out of the universe is setup as either/or main plot development. In hindsight we see, that lack of development of the main plot in ME2 had a detrimental effect on the third game. ME2 could have not only utilized Shepard's visions and make him very plot-integral, and setup the Crucible. It didn't have to be much, but it would help with a lot of the problems that ME3 arrived with. It would also make the events of ME2 matter in ME3. I would also had wished that the 2nd game, or at least between the 2nd and 3rd some preparations took place. Instead the galaxy is caught by the Reapers pants down. I would have happily exchange the attack on earth with no preparation, for tension that whatever is did is not enough, and whatever time there is will not suffice. I liked playing through ME2, but I had the distinct impression, that BioWare didn't treat the Reaper threat they established seriously. Not only don't they actions ever feel particularly smart, they make quite goofy mistakes. It doesn't help when the galaxy that is supposed to be a shadow of one the protheans ruled, somehow manages to put up a fight against the Reapers. 4. Ending Ending does not destroy everything, but it can destroy a lot. Most of all it destroyed illusions. A lot of people thought that ME3 would cure cancer. The disappointments of previous titles, would be amended in the last game, or the ending. That unanswered questions would be answered. That neglected characters would get their due, and everyone would get a proper sendoff. That choices would finally mater, because BioWare didn't need to transfer saves anymore. ME1 really set my expectation much higher when it comes to quality of writing. It wasn't perfect, but it was better. I could still enjoy the characters, but I didn't really hold my breath that things would make a lot of sense. And it is this wasted potential, that is most lamentable to me. The ending tried to be intellectual, and fails. You are right that the ending failed to consider what most players wanted, which was mostly character focus and closure, but it doesn't mean that the conclusion couldn't also have been logical and intelligent. People didn't only want closure, they wanted answers, but compelling ones. It even manages to undermine ME1 ending, by making it that the whole collective of Reaper intelligence is resided within the Citadel. Extended Cut didn't even bother to fix it, by making an excuse like "it woke it up" or something. The DLC's did little to solve the problems of the ending. To me they provided a bare minimum of closure, which was a sub-par effort. A disappointing sendoff to a series, and rather unimpressive compared to e.g. Dragon Age: Origins epilogue. EC provided a few extra line of dialogue, and mostly gave an epilogue. The questions about the Reapers creators, the Leviathan was interesting, but it didn't explain any of the plot-breaking questions that the ending created. Also as a side note. The death of the I.T. had everything to do with the fact that we got an epilogue. Neither Leviathan or EC, did a whole lot of answering questions. In fact Leviathans existence is also entirely irrelevant to indoctrination theory. 5. Jack & Jacob I think saying that Jack romances is some sort of manifestation of "patriarchal bullshit" is just as false as calling BioWare racist for how they handled Jacob. Speculating on peoples intent is difficult, but when it comes to those hot button issues, people like to throw those heavy accusations. I think it is particularly misguided, considering BioWare's reputation for sensitivity to those issues. In Jack's case she is not only the most powerful human biotic, there is also a intentional subversion of expectations of her being a man. There is no pattern of Shepard being particularly influential when it comes to women. Shepard has an unique and often contrived ability of influencing PEOPLE. In fact there is femshep and maleshep and both (with some different romance options) do exactly the same thing. BioWare simply gave player an option to have influence, as it often is in ME series. And changes happen mostly regardless of the romance. Against all odds, Jack not only seem to not cause almost any trouble on the Normandy, but manages to function in a team. And in ME3, regardless of being romanced or not, she basically overcomes her past and supposed psychopathy (how she was advertised) and becomes a relatively mellow teacher. And regardless, a desire to help and heal a loved one is universal and benign. Not equal to a desire to dominate. Incidentally it is a very popular trope among women, to "fix a man"; and particularly to change a "badboy". The infamous 50 Shades of Gray is an example of this trope. In Jacob's case I would point to the fact that all human characters in ME have a bad reputation for being bland and unpopular. And in ME2 in particular virtually alll characters have some sort of "daddy issues". Although it might be a sort of faux pas, I don't see anything to be outraged about. Critique, perhaps. Outraged. No. Jacob, although not popular, was the most positive characters in ME2. He wasn't from a broken family, because his father bailed, or his parents got divorced, but he simply gone missing, from what was for all intents and purposes as exemplary family. The loyalty mission is reminiscent of Lord of the Flies and its themes, and has little to do with that. It is actually counter the stereotype, and reducing it all to the simple fact that Jacobs grew up without a father. 6. Mordin The conclusion of Mordin's ark was preachy. Mordin knew exactly why genophage was necessary, and told you in exquisite detail. On Tuchanka he makes an emotional argument. Yes. The genophage is being cured, because krogan support is important and the Reapers are to big of a threat. Mording could have even been happy to cure the genophage. He could mourn the it is a blunt, indiscriminate tool, and that it hurts all krogans, including those which are innocent. He could see promise in them. He could also make an argument that he can't be involved in it, and that it is immoral to subject any race to such a disease after so many years, no matter the consequences, even if it damns the galaxy. He didn't make any argument. The whole "I was wrong" scene concluded the struggle of the genophage in a empty "feel-good" moment. It cheapened and betrayed both Mordin's character and the whole story ark. Mass population explosion is not very conducive for stability. In the long run, the cure could have just as easily caused the krogan to survive, as to hasten their downfall.
@beezlbobdestraint6869
9 жыл бұрын
serialkiller1990 didn't read lol
@Darkspinesupersonic8
9 жыл бұрын
Beezlbob Destraint Good for you.
@DKUmaro
9 жыл бұрын
serialkiller1990 To be more precise its not "Either humanity dies and universe survives, or humanity survives a little longer and universe dies." Its humantiy survives with a task at hand and universe may die, but is not doomed to do so. That Dark energy ending shows the reaper in a different perspective. People, including me, that like the dark energy ending have more thought and probably read more in the universe than the usual player that might not understand the ending to its fullest. Though nobody really will as it was not finished. The ending we got is bad, even with DLC and story-repairing patch.
@serialkiller1990
9 жыл бұрын
K4rakara It is effectively exactly that. Of course the writers could have written whatever the hell they wish, but it would be a contrived last moment save, or some such. If the billion year old AI gods, couldn't have figured it out in their entire existence, then it would be a farce if what is left of humanity and other races could do it. Was it a hundred, or three hundred years? Doom is more or less imminent according to this scenario. And every Reaper which is supposed to be destroyed (if humanity decides to try to find their own way), were basically the accumulated efforts of the Reapers to stop the death of the universe. The Dark Energy, ending simply has huge, basic flaws. The premise of struggling against the destruction of the universe might be okay, and a interesting one. a) The problem is connecting that to biotics, and specifically to organic. b) How is the accident of natural evolution superior in any way superior and necessary to the Reapers. c) How does the idea of the Cycle in any way support this in lieu of simple ability to clone (e.g. no harvest or conflict is needed). d) How can the human species biotic abilities be so pivotal, as to surpass a billion years o buildup and technological advancement, and somehow fix the problem. e) How are the Reapers so powerful as to affect a process that is shaking the whole universe. I also don't like the false dichotomy of the choice, that makes the ending. Neither do I like the hamfisted way in which the "other side" of the Reapers is created. It is a interesting in principle, but them destroying everything in order "to save the world' is completely on the nose. I think any concept has certain potential and perhaps in capable hands it could have worked, but what I see doesn't make me optimistic.
@DKUmaro
9 жыл бұрын
"If the billion year old AI gods, couldn't have figured it out in their entire existence, then it would be a farce if what is left of humanity and other races could do it." Its the different view of other people that makes it good, not the facts that are against it. You believe in facts and find the very low chances to be nonsense, while other believe in faith of humanity and see it as a potential to save the galaxy. Those with faith took one ending those with scientic thoughts the other. Its now dumbed down to choose your color with a small changes to looks. For other things, well it is just science FICTION, nobody said its hard sci-fi. The writer might come up for explanations for holes that you found, but you would not like those either and i think they expect that. It would only be more work on their side, but with minimal changes to a small number of people and the rest of the player base still won't be satisfied.
@TalesZuliani
4 жыл бұрын
we cannot stress enough just how amazing Jennifer Hale as FemShep is
@kangkudos1225
3 жыл бұрын
I was watching this one review of Kotor, and in the final episode the commenter is reviewing this one Jedi character, "______ _portrayed by _*_Jennifer Hale, Voice of the One True Sheppard"_*
@eatme982
2 жыл бұрын
@@kangkudos1225 that seems rather mean spirited towards Mark Meer, whose performance as Shepard in ME3 was definitely on par with Hale's and even surpasses it in some parts.
@Trillykins
2 жыл бұрын
@@eatme982 no shade at Mark og anything, but which scenes would that be? I've always stuck to Jennifer because she does such an excellent job and the times I've heard him in scenes in 3 they've never been on par. Like, he's not a bad voice actor or anything, he does good, it's just that Hale is kind of a superstar voice actor.
@eatme982
2 жыл бұрын
@@Trillykins Oh easy. The goodbye scene with Anderson and the entire last confrontation with TIM. Meer rocked both those scenes. Most of Citadel, as well. Best example was his delivery of "the best" which is said with such solemn and sobering adulation and blows Hale's out of the water. Mark also pretty consistently does renegade dialogue better than Hale in the last two games imo. I love Hale, genuinely. I've done several femshep playthroughs and enjoyed them all. But i feel like in 3 she started overacting a little bit, while Meer finally seemed to be hitting his hot streak.
@Trillykins
2 жыл бұрын
@@eatme982 it's funny you mention both Anderson's death and specifically the "the best" line from The Citadel when they return to the Normandy because those were the exact scenes I thought were clear examples of Hale's just being leagues above. BroShep does a good job with the Anderson thing, but FemShep just goes above and beyond and really sells Shepard being in pain and exhausted while still being relieved that it's finally, supposedly over. The "the best" line is delivered very well by Hale, making it sound introspective and reaffirming in what they just talked about, while Meer's just.. like, sounds like a bad take? Both in that the recoding of it doesn't sound right, but also the inflection or lack of punctuation in the sentence. Anyway. To each their own.
@unrested
8 жыл бұрын
Damn this is incredibly well written and the analysis is great. 2.5 hours I actually wanna listen to. Probably will listen again too just to catch everything
@laughablelarry9243
3 жыл бұрын
Time for you to listen again.
@DarkTelepath
5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much stuff was locked behind DLC. Listening to you talk about all the scenarios offered, makes it sound like you played a different game from me.
@megamike15
5 жыл бұрын
mass effect in geenral is a difference experience when you play the whole trilogy with all the dlc. especially in 3.
@DarkTelepath
5 жыл бұрын
@@megamike15 I might have to. Wonder if there's a "complete trilogy" package?
@megamike15
5 жыл бұрын
@@DarkTelepath there is but it does not come with the dlc. whitch really annoys me
@DarkTelepath
5 жыл бұрын
@@megamike15That's lame. Not really a "complete" edition then. I would like to replay it as a Renegade, but not the base game again
@megamike15
5 жыл бұрын
@@DarkTelepath yeah it sucks. i bought the dlc for 2 and 3 as they came out. it's like 30 bucks for all of 2's and 50 for all of 3's.
@fausty616
10 жыл бұрын
Mass Effect as the collective trilogy is my favorite game. I have major issues with all three games in the series, but the mythos is so captivating to me. The allegories of all the different races and history. Not actually finished the video yet, so I'm not sure if you addressed this (table of contents indicates not), but I'm interested if you touched Mass Effect 3's multiplayer at all. I have put way too much time into it. At face value, it looks like a generic horde mode co op tacked on feature to force EA-prompted microtransactions onto us. I really enjoy it from a gameplay perspective and the lore. Being able to actually play as Batarians, Krogans, Geth, Salarians, Turians, etc etc, even the Volus really adds to the universe for me.
@fausty616
10 жыл бұрын
Edit: you did address it pretty well, just curious what you thought about how it might add to the lore.
@TheAwesome45
3 жыл бұрын
Oh gameplay wise ME3’s multiplayer is the tits.
@holup2691
2 жыл бұрын
The first mass effect is the first time I got it. Unfortunately we’ll never have it again.
@jonathansoko1085
2 жыл бұрын
2 is irrelevant other than letting you know about Cerberus and protheans not being gone. This angers nerds as I say it but they can not and will not refute me because it is true
@mh1ultramarine
8 жыл бұрын
The only thing worse than a bad story, is a great one with a terible ending
@mh1ultramarine
8 жыл бұрын
Xenuism I played the mass effect games back to back, I was late to the party. ME3's ending stopped me form re-playing them. (Well that and ME1 AMD fix being unfixed by AMD)
@mh1ultramarine
8 жыл бұрын
Xenuism The bad ending made the other games same completly hopeless, No matter what you do, in any game. It is pointless becuase the only diffrence in the end is what filter the ending has.
@Soulfly415
8 жыл бұрын
Yes a few minutes can absolutelly ruin 5 years of great memories and storytelling!
@waiflu
8 жыл бұрын
The Extended Cut fixed things for me, also to me what matters is the journey not the destination.
@Soulfly415
8 жыл бұрын
baseballrogue Wow, what a over used dumb cliche! Mass Effect tells a story and every story need a satisfying ending to be a good story... just like a movie. A good movie with a shitty ending can ruin the whole experience. No, it's not a journey, that cliche doesn't imply in Mass Effect! Mass Effect is a storytelling experience with a terrible conclusion!
@Skepticktok
7 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits sent me. Glad I found this channel.
@herman1francis
7 жыл бұрын
me too I binge watched this 2 hours and i'm definitely going to check more stuff
@bobbydadude2488
7 жыл бұрын
I watched him a while before extra credits vouched for him, but I'm so happy they did. His subs and views have jumped up dramatically, so happy he's getting the recognition he deserves.
@herman1francis
7 жыл бұрын
Bobby Dadude when big channels recommend high quality small channel everybody wins. and i love mass effect so it was a great discovery
@tanman729
7 жыл бұрын
it's one of the things i love about the youtube community. i get a special kind of good feeling (not like that!!) whenever i see a channel i love give a shout-out or have a guest come in from another youtube channel that i already watch. i checked out all of the EC recommendations over the holiday. and noah, you're great. keep up the awesome loooooooong work!!
@jakel8879
5 жыл бұрын
thanks for this, really put me in my feels of how much I love this series. To really look past its downfalls and really cherish the parts that I loved.
@Grey_Warden_Invasion
10 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I found it to be the other way round - Kaidan was interesting while Ashley was unbearable boring. Heck, he even was the reason why I bought and played ME in the first place. I really love watching such game analysis videos. Also have already seen a bunch of documentaries on how the games were created. There never has been a game and probably also never will be that I know so much information about as ME.
@johnthomason9980
Жыл бұрын
I know that this is an 8 year old comment, but I have to say, I think this is genuinely the first time I've seen someone say that they found Kaidan interesting
@Pentazimyn28
Жыл бұрын
@@johnthomason9980 lmao same
@catiseith
7 жыл бұрын
Citadel DLC being tongue-in-cheek is an understatement.It was the most funny part of the trilogy by far, and I had a lot of fun with it.
@hariman7727
4 жыл бұрын
The Citadel DLC is why I will eventually play ME3.
@Anonie324
10 жыл бұрын
The one thing that bothers me about this video is that the captured audio in-game is just a liiiiiiittle bit too loud for your voice, and it can be difficult to comfortably separate the two at times. The content itself is wonderful as always!
@Sheechiibii
8 жыл бұрын
You really missed out a lot when it comes to the Tuchanka storyline. First of all, you said Mordin can't be convinced to sabotage the cure and a renegade shepard has to shoot him, that's not the case at all. If Wrex is dead and the data from ME2 destroyed then you can talk Mordin around and he sabotages the cure with you and lives. Plus, Wreav being around instead of Wrex makes thing very different and you can keep both Salarian and Krogan allies for the whole game. These seemed pretty major details to leave out considering how extensively you talked about that mission. Especially Mordin, though maybe you didn't know he could be saved, considering you specifically said he couldn't ("it's the only time a crew member says no") when he can.
@fuzzydunlop7928
5 жыл бұрын
Kinda ruins the gravitas of it, but yeah I don't blame him - most people don't let Wrex go easy.
@dastardlybastardthe2nd
5 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Mostly because there is no reason too. Unless you can't convince him. Wrex is one of the best teammates in ME1. He's an objectively superior leader than Wreave, and he's the best choice to lead the Krogan. He just ends up being a liability if you choose to sabotage the cure.
@SomeYouTubeTraveler
4 жыл бұрын
Funny how everyone thought the biggest choice of who lives or who dies in ME1 was between Kaidan and Ashley... when in reality, it was between Wrex and Mordin. A dear companion who we hadn't even met yet. Man, I love this game.
@AbstractTraitorHero
4 жыл бұрын
@@SomeKZitemTraveler I found this out as wrex is dead in mass effect two if you start a game from it basically.
@Rakshiir
4 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 I just killed him once I think. Because I wanted to see how it played out of you go the "Wrex dead, data deleted" route, and trick Wreave. And honestly, considering you DID choose these options, the sabotage is propably the right choice. I feel like with Wrex and Eve as leaders, the Krogan would have a chance to change and not fall back into their behaviour that actually caused the Genophage. But with Wreave it is certain that they would, making the choice the best for the galaxy. It's designed to be a renegade option but I actually think in that situation, it would actually not strictly be one. But thats why the whole Genophage arc is so great over all games. It is one - if not the - most interesting arc over the 3 games, considering the options you have as an ending. Its hard for me to say which one I like more, Genophage or the Geth story Arc with Tali... both really good ones.
@Fuzzball70
10 жыл бұрын
You seem to use the exact same segment of audio talking about the ME3 ending and its choices twice. I guess a bit of an editing mistake? I suppose that's understandable for such a long video! Great work though.
@broadcaststsatic
10 жыл бұрын
A major mistake. I'll fix it when I can use a computer with internet speeds faster than 100kbps-- I have a cheap 4G internet provider, and where I live now, the signal is just impossibly weak. When it rains, I can't watch netflix, because of the damn clouds. That weak. So that mistake's gonna sit there for a while, sad to say.
@MermDaddy
9 жыл бұрын
mordin can actually survive if some conditions are met in ME1, 2, and 3 and you have to be renegade.
@timyo6288
3 жыл бұрын
don’t make things up.
@jexx2974
3 жыл бұрын
@@timyo6288 when Wrex is dead/not recruited in ME1 and Maleon Data is destroyed you can convince Mordin to fake the cure ( you dont have to be renegate)
@itgms
3 жыл бұрын
@@timyo6288 I discovered this when I decided to try a non-imported ME3--there's a LOT that went wrong when you're not playing Shepard in the first two games. It's a completely different story, totally recommend you try it out to see how different things can be!
@longwing
3 жыл бұрын
I'm rewatching this video 11 days before the release of the Legendary edition. This is a phenomenal retrospective on the series.
@xiaoxiaohurdler
9 жыл бұрын
This is the best intellectual analysis of the Mass Effect franchise. A+
@maxwelljosephchase
7 жыл бұрын
The human reaper was a core. It was years from completion and would have looked more like a regular reaper as it approached completion. I might be mistaken, but the reason they decided to make a reaper based on something else than the Leviathan was because during the dark matter idea, humanity had the best chance to try and stop it. Reapers then wanted to try and harness what humanity had to try and solve it themselves.
@TheHulk1850
4 жыл бұрын
I believe it was implied by EDI during the ending of 2, that the Reapers tried to make a Prothean Reaper as well and failed. Basically the same thing, the inner core would be in the image of the species, but the shell would look like the Leviathan, what purpose for, who knows? I personally feel it may be more tradition and to make them look uniform, then anything. I know this is old, but felt I should add on!! ^^
@maxwelljosephchase
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHulk1850 Late reply or not, I didn't know this, so that just kinda reinforces what I thought before. Thanks for the reply. :)
@TheHulk1850
4 жыл бұрын
@@maxwelljosephchase Thanks for reading!! I really appreciate you responding despite how late I was!!
@butHomeisNowhere___
3 жыл бұрын
This was such a pleasant interaction 😁
@TheAwesome45
3 жыл бұрын
Nah it’s because that is how Reapers procreate, and humans were a viable species to do so.
@manmonkee
8 жыл бұрын
Great video, Back in the day I used to work in games and Mass Effect 3 had to me the look of if not unfinish, then rushed. I've worked with EA and when shipping time comes up they want a product to ship, saying your not finished doesn't cut it with them. Things like never seeing Tali even if you romance her, I can see the meeting, (Bioware)"It'll take 3 or 4 days to create the textures and models" ( EA) " you've got 2 hours, grab some old photo from the net and bugger about with it, the players won't mind"
@ryanc5572
5 жыл бұрын
The Liara scene at the end had me in tears when she rests her head on him... just like it always does. The ending was a letdown, but the journey was magnificent.
@Phanthief95
8 жыл бұрын
1:19:18 They actually explain this in the Leviathan DLC in Mass Effect 3. The Reapers' inner shell looks like the species that they have absorbed but the outer shell was made so they resemble the first Reaper & the species that created them: the Leviathans.
@JoshDoVids
3 жыл бұрын
Thats an incredibly stupid way to handwave the plot hole they created to be honest. I always thought that, that handwave hardly makes any sense even as an attempt to explain the previous inconsistencies.
@Aggrofool
3 жыл бұрын
If only Leviathan DLC was instead a core ME2 plot. It would have solved a LOT of problems.
@kangkudos1225
3 жыл бұрын
+1 KZitem Skill I cannot believe the number of commenters that don't think to include time stamps to the comment for which they are responding
@jonny-b4954
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aggrofool ME2's entire plot was stupid honestly. Squandered what the sequel should have been. I mean the first ME is such a well paced and written masterpiece. Classic galaxy spanning adventure. ME2 then is totally in left field. Like what, I died? Why? Wait... no one believes me? Why, isn't there tons of evidence of what we did? Wait.. the Reapers are using a subservient species to eradicate entire worlds? Why? Just dumb. I love the game but just cringe at the story. I really wish they would have taken up that black energy plot they were hinting at in ME2 though. Instead of the Star Child. Just really dumb narrative choices taken throughout the entire series by the writers in my opinion.
@TirOrah
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonny-b4954 Agreed. I loved my playthrough of ME2, but if you stop and think about it, the primary thing it did was introduce a new, bloated cast and then spend most of its runtime recruiting/developing them. Only for most of those characters to have minor roles going forward. There's nothing wrong with that in a vacuum--character-centric stories are great--but it completely wasted the setup from the first game. It wasted time that could've been used to explore the Reapers and how you're supposed to stop them. (Plus, I groan whenever I think of Cerberus. Everything's so edgy about this game.)
@xBINARYGODx
8 жыл бұрын
Your pseudo comparison of Star Trek vs Mass Effect towards the beginning is slight off - by the time we are witness to Start Trek events, humanity has been part of a multi-planet federation for hundreds of years and most human children are raised with a "everyone is equal, no matter the race, blah blah blah" mentality for about the same amount of time. In Mass Effect, humanity is just first busting out into space and meeting aliens who mostly look down on them.
@xBINARYGODx
8 жыл бұрын
Additional thoughts: - there are some ruff cuts where words overlap as you switch to a new topic or you seem to jump from the end of one sentence about one thing to a sentence about another that seems to have already started before the jump. - I understand YOU did not like Kaiden, but to ignore the choice from ME1 and the possibility of him being the one around in the 2nd and 3rd game (especially as the first and only gay-male love interest to the series so far) seems rather odd. You can on and on about the woman partners and how they are portrayed but the whole gay thing gets ignored because you happen to like Ashly better? Plenty of players let her racist ass die in the first game. Also, you make no mention of Ashly's design change for the third game. - you miss a lot concerning the systems for upgrading in 2 and how they were not stat sheets but nicely intergrated into the world (resources, the lab, etc.). - you could have mentioned how many times a choice in ME2 is basically ignore as the affect on 3 is simple that if you choice A you get A, if you choice B, you get a cheap replacement for A. (hopefully that is clear). [I will add more as the video finishes (30 mins to go] EDIT - Nah, nothing more. I just find it rather disapointing that you talked about relationships and how females were portrayed but skipped other stuff I feel was also worth mentioning in that general area of things. I also feel you skipped some other something thing when covering similer stuff to what was skipped. All that, and your editing and sound mixing could use some work. Otherwise - LOVE your channel. To bad this type of format (long, in depth) does not bring in the 100,000's of subs and all the money that it can earn.
@jasonfenton8250
8 жыл бұрын
+BINARYGOD Yeah I saved Kaiden, I romanced Tali but Kaiden is my bro. That and biotics are more rare in the galaxy and having a racist onboard isn't great for diplomacy. I feel that Kaiden seems bland to a lot of people, he's basically an opposite to Jack. They both had abuse and had it rough because they were biotics, Jack lashes out because of this but Kaiden has developed this cool, calm demeanor which is very constructive and respectable.
@remembertotakeshowerspleas355
8 жыл бұрын
Third time I've seen this guy ^
@xBINARYGODx
7 жыл бұрын
Coming back a year later for yet-another-viewing and love this line from my reply-to-myself: "I also feel you skipped some other something thing when covering similer stuff to what was skipped." Wow, such wonderful grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. I deserve a metal. (a metal dildo, that is)
@Leandros912
9 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those people that you mentioned at the end that "will never buy another mass effect game again". I've had that attitude since 2012 and still do to this day. My time with this series came to an end with the end of Shepard's story. I have played through the trilogy a couple times since, although not with the same passion as I did before. I know I'll probably take some heat for this, but I don't think I will ever get over the way the ending was handled. Mass Effect 3 honestly had some of the best moments of the entire trilogy and stands shoulder to shoulder with the other two at its highest points, and certainly the best game play. However, I cannot step foot into any of these games without the sour taste of the ending permeating it. Although I was upset for a very long time over it, I have come to realize the trilogy and especially its endings have taught me some very valuable lessons.
@MrGamesDean
7 жыл бұрын
Tali was 22/23 on her pilgrimage (ME1) not a teenager. Which made her 5 years older than me (and by extension my CMDR Shepard) when I first played Mass Effect, so technically I'm the boy toy??
@testogel85
8 жыл бұрын
People probably already told you, but Shepard isn't "however old your Shepard is." Shepard was born in april 2154, so he or she is age 30 or 31 (biologically 28 or 29 I guess since they spent 2 years dead) by the time of ME2.
@asraarradon4115
3 жыл бұрын
Ashley's initial views in ME1 weren't racist-they were cynical. She wasn't comparing aliens to dogs; the dogs in her example were humans. Her line, "as much as you love your dog, it isn't human" was an example to explain her cynical world view that the council would put their own interests ahead of humans if given the need, and that it should be understandable that they would, given than man would do so as well even with their closest non-human companion. But most people seem to confuse her cynicism with racism. Ashley actually became a real character to me in this conversation, because she didn't just have some cookie cutter outlook on things. She had very complicated and well thought out views.
@ryanerickson3063
3 жыл бұрын
NEVER scrap a good ending idea just because it was leaked. A better story > a dumb surprise.
@thirdcoinedge
6 ай бұрын
Turns out it wasn't so much that it was leaked, that was just a rumor. It was more so that they just didn't have a solid idea of what the ending would be until the last minute. The dark energy plotline was a detail that they likely included in case they wanted to link that to the overarching story about the Reapers in the future. Really shows the uncertainty of the writers for not deciding to follow up on that. The Wikipedia page shows about five different ideas they had for how to end ME 3. In the end, we didn't get something tying into a unique scifi concept - we got "AI decided to kill everyone because it thought that was the best solution," yet again.
@gl0bal7474
7 жыл бұрын
Also, I think you sound a bit like Mordin
@thedreamcapture2681
6 жыл бұрын
I did my dissertation on science fiction because of you...you may of never passed your finals....but because of you I did....thank you man thank you. love you Noah.
@linkenski
10 жыл бұрын
51:15 You're making a completely baseless assumption here. The Dark Energy plot for the reapers was not dropped due to a leak; in fact, the leak had the Extended Cut Ending but because of skepticism or pure backlash Bioware shortened and kept it "high-level" and thus we got the very brief and confusing ending that we originally got. (e.g. originally there was investigative options in the official ending, but they were removed in the last two months of development, then re-added with the EC). The reason why we did not get the Dark Energy ending is ultimately because the original Lead Writer for Mass Effect, Drew Karpyshyn left, and Mac Walters took over. As time went by we can assume Bioware thought the Dark Energy plot just wouldn't work, or that they couldn't make it work because they didn't know Drew's idea for it and since Drew was working in Austin as opposed to the rest of ME Team in Edmonton at the time of ME3's development cycle, getting direct feedback from Drew was probably not easy, so they tried to handle it the best they could themelves. (and failed)
@Bonkbonk100
10 жыл бұрын
It's like we get to see more and more of Noah for every video he release. Eventually it might actually be in a decent light setting. Also, yay new video.
@Omgacow1000
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think we will see a game with world building like mass effect ever again. The characters were great but what drew me to the game in the first place was all the conversations I had with the different alien races on the citadel, all the knowledge to be learned
@linusdn2777
5 жыл бұрын
John Carpenter's Mass Effect is something i would literally give my life to be able to see
@kangkudos1225
3 жыл бұрын
_I am not interested in your life_ *Only Your Soul* Muah-Ha-Ha-Ha
@onedeadpixel10
7 жыл бұрын
this is an incredibly insightful and well-made video. one of my few points of contention is your comments on Jacob's characterization. first of all, his "bland masculinity" as you put it always struck me as a result of his military background, not as some kind of weird stereotype related to his race. similarly the absenteeism of his father is only stereotypical if you actively choose to percieve it as such. I never once made that connection during my time with the game, and it feels like quite a reach. I highly doubt the writers of that plotline were in any way influenced by Jacob's race, either consciously or otherwise.
@DaywalkerNL94
8 жыл бұрын
I love how analytical you are, but strongly disagree about Ashley... She is more of a anti-globalist as far as I can tell. Funny how poor choice of words can define the characters. She used the word "alien" to generalize Garrus an Wrex, but she is ok with Tali. In fact in one of their elevator dialogues Ashley expresses hope that they would change peoples perception of quarians. She also wants to have an apartment on a Citadel and openly attacks members of a Terra Firma. She's ok with aliens, she just doesn't believe in that "unite we stand" thinking that when the moment comes all of them would save their asses, which is partially true since this is exactly what was happening when reapers invade.
@thescoutpanda
6 жыл бұрын
she just believes humanity shouldn't be over-reliant on aliens. not an unreasonable position
@henry3153
6 жыл бұрын
Dr Caramel u know BioWare did this deliberately they wouldn’t just accidentally make her racist
@derrickbonsell
5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the vitriol people treat Ashley with. Is she a racist? Perhaps, but she's racist against creatures that truly *are* different races. Races that no one even knew existed just a decade or two previous. They're not humans, they are alien. Indeed the fact that they're anthromorphic at all is the only thing that makes them relatable. If they were to be species so exotic we could barely communicate with them, well that's a different kind of story than Mass Effect is intended to convey.
@banana1231234
5 жыл бұрын
Dr Caramel muh globalism
@linkenski
10 жыл бұрын
FYI, it was shown through the leaked story docs that Javik was originally planned to be an essential part of ME3's plot. In fact, they ended up switching him out with the Prothean VI who in comparison served a lesser role. The changes in the plot from the leaked script to the final game was not due to EA demanding change after the leaks however. It was stated in the Behind The Scenes app, The Final Hours of Mass Effect by Geoff Keighley - who visisted Bioware in the final months of developing ME3 - that they had to cut tremendous amounts of story content they had initially planned because the development cycle was too short and/or the resources at Bioware's disposal didn't add up to the amount of planned content; thus the game was slightly rewritten.
@allclevernamesgone
7 жыл бұрын
Ashley's a real sweetheart once you get to know her. Spreading the Ashley love.
@CharlieThunder24
4 жыл бұрын
loved her character arc.
@fouronetwo813
4 жыл бұрын
The "Ashley is racist" is an old, tired and ultimately utterly inncorrect troupe. The bear and the dog analogy seems to be purposefully misunderstood. Humans are obviously the dog. Or even more accurately every other race is the dog to each race. Her whole point is humans shouldn't derp around the galaxy like idealistic toddlers. She even rebuffs the Terrafirma politician on the citadel. Funny thing is by the third game she's proven totally correct.
@SomeYouTubeTraveler
4 жыл бұрын
_Sir_ butt-pirate
@smokingone
4 жыл бұрын
the poetry part of her arc is shallow as hell, and the fact that shepard can also recite and identify famous poets is just hilarious, but doesn't really make any sense.
@TheAwesome45
3 жыл бұрын
@@fouronetwo813 I mean she’s not though. Yeah you need to help other species, but they come through for you. Plus her constant don’t trust people attitude would fuck you in getting both geth and quarians.
@NinjaFlipsTV
9 жыл бұрын
The Mass Effect II intro was one of the bigger 'wow' moments I've had in a game. Dynamic, emotional, serious business. Your overall tone of MEII being essentially shallow overlooks the fact that BioWare openly stated that MEII was a 'middle chapter' in the story. Consequences to be seen in ME3 of course wouldn't be felt with as much impact in ME2. MEII was the bridge between 1 and 3, BW always said so.
@broadcaststsatic
9 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty positive I say so too, man.
@seroccoprime2774
9 жыл бұрын
Noah Caldwell-Gervais It actually isn't that bad of a theory. Shepard spend three days asleep next to a Reaper artifact in Arrival. It's pretty clear the Reapers were at least trying to indoctrinate him, if nothing else.
@laggrenade863
9 жыл бұрын
Anthony Serocco Too bad they killed it in the DLC instead of running with it
@mercenaryTendencies
9 жыл бұрын
Ninja Flips I kinda wish they hadn't spoiled the dying bit so thoroughly leading up to ME2. It could have been a shocking twist, but I knew it was coming. Maybe that's my fault, but it was in every preview of the game.
@laggrenade863
9 жыл бұрын
***** Minor things mostly. It's practically impossible to have a trilogy that large and have every single decision impact the last game
@Sizifus
9 жыл бұрын
It's kind of a shame, that Mass Effect trilogy ended on low note, as the story plunged into the hole of a narrative mess, from which it couldn't recover since. Mass Effect 1 had a lot of potential, even though, gameplay wise it was clunky. Wish they would have ironed out the problems of RPG elements, instead of simplifying and outright ignoring some of them entirely in the sequel. The story is considerably the best in the series. Mass Effect 2 is an odd ball, because it had good character interactions and shooting was more solid, but the story was pretty shitty and really didn't amount to anything worthwhile, well maybe except sections with Tali or Shadow Broker with Liara. The Arrival DLC, although being cool, was messing with the Lore big time, I'm confused how people ignored those parts, when praising this game... Mass Effect 3 was a bloody mess, both on gameplay (Quest system? Lol) and thematic aspect. Though having some good ideas, its story was so stupid and lazy, it insults the ME2, which was bad too. When you base entire sequel to the Deus Ex Machina device that was discovered at the last minute, you know that writers were either lazy or not competent to begin with. And the ending... Should I even say anything about it?
@XImemX
8 жыл бұрын
"The Reapers can't be defeated by conventional means" As Shepard kills 4 or 5 of them and hundreds die on Palavin. There are only several thousand Reapers to cover a galaxy. I think you can beat them and a super weapon was a stupid choice to end the series but it was the easiest. Laziness ruins all great art.
@DwWarWolf
4 жыл бұрын
Sankfang it’s 4 years I know but the key difference is “defeated” and “killed” The Reapers can’t be defeated by conventional means no, only killed. Yes you kill Reapers in 3 just as you did Sovereign ( so him dying in 1 bothers you too?) Now you could say “but it took a huge fleet to take down Sovereign” and you be right. It did take a fleet to kill a sovereign class Reaper. Shepherd doesn’t kill big Reapers. He kills Destoryer Reapers, which while big, are no where near the same size. The only Big Reaper deaths are the one Levation kills and those at the end are “killed” by biggest fleet ever in the exist in the galaxy. Referencing the Refusal ending, even that is not enough to defeat them. So you can kill a Reaper, but you can’t defeat them with conventional means.
@SuperNova-so2cj
2 жыл бұрын
This dude looks like a completely different man every video
@cjware316
8 жыл бұрын
Can't believe im just finding this channel! I have never seen a more in depth and intelligent look @ all my favorite game franchises. Thank you for all the time you put into these! You deserve so much more. But you got a subscriber outta me.
@Venoxisguides
4 ай бұрын
Would love a remake for this video
@GenerationBright
6 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this video. I've watched it at least 10 times since I first discovered it years ago after just having completed the Citadel DLC. I suppose I enjoy experiencing the nostalgia of Mass Effect where I don't have the time to replay it, and I truly appreciate the effort Noah put into it.
@thianbf
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your time and energy put into this Noah, I really enjoy your work.
@arknark
Жыл бұрын
I really wish I could play the Mass Effect series for the first time again. What a fucking rollercoaster. Great video man, seriously a good listen while I'm drawing.
@ThaFunkster100
7 жыл бұрын
I kind of disagree with you, I thought ME2 was the best of the series, and I thought Shephard dying was a really well done plot point that had me on the edge of my seat
@SaiNarayan_
7 жыл бұрын
Noah, you're a gem. Never stop doing this. Thank you. :)
@suokkis
10 жыл бұрын
Umm that part about the dark energy ending leaking out, its BS. I read the original leaked scripts of ME3 and the ending there was almost identical to what we got in the first place. If dark energy was scrapped it was done so way earlier.
@TheAwesome45
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Drew Kaz-I forget how to soell his name, was a potential one. Also as for good, YMMV. It makes even less sense than the ending we got. Why do the cycles or allow biotics or dark energy to be used for millions of years, if it fucks the universe?
@flyagaric123
8 жыл бұрын
This video is one my favourite youtube videos of all time. You're very consistent in your analysis.
@MagicAccent
7 жыл бұрын
Well, after a few years of putting it off, I decided to play the 3rd game, and replaying 1&2 for the complete experience dlc and all.. Total playtime around 130 or so hours. ME3 may not be the strongest on all points, but damn if I wasn't so invested in the characters and the story already I didn't give a shit about that. I liked that you didn't have time to prepare for the war, I felt it added a it a sense of urgency, desperation and dread not really present in the other games. The galaxy falling to pieces faster than you can pick them up. The citadel dlc really made the differance, coupled with the extended cut. Which is probably why I will remember ME3 as a satisfying final chapter to Sherpards story. In a way the dlc it was the "real" ending to the series and just what it needed to be. Lighthearted, but also a deliberate final goodbye. Which is why I really had no problem with the endings apart from the fact that the trilogy was over, and the direction they took the illusive man, cerberus, and his last scene. Which just seemed kind of lame and too much like the final confrontation with Saren. Also, I always saw(and played) Shepard as the only sane person in an insane world. Only he/she could see the world for what it was, slap some sense in to everyone else and do what no one else could or wanted to do. For Shepard there would ultimately be no happy ending, and the final sacrifice would also be on him. Which pretty much sums up the consequences for all of the final choices. All in all, it was a good ride.
@SlunkyBoi
3 жыл бұрын
You’re the only KZitemr I can listen to for 2hrs+ in one video and still feel like I wish it kept going haha
@TheIzay
9 жыл бұрын
I love you for making this.
@totem91
8 жыл бұрын
I actually may be the person who had almost no problem with the ME3 ending. Hear me out though, before you downvote the comment. Obviously massive spoilers ahead. Here goes: I came in the trilogy relatively late. When I first saw my little brother playing ME2, the 3rd one was already out. My brother urged me not to start from ME2, but to play the first one instead. In the first game, even though I eventually did multiple playthroughs, I originally ended up romancing Liara 'cause I hated Ashley's speciesism (is that the word?) and having Wrex alive. I played a renegon Shepard, who was all about getting the job done. For my main companions, I played mostly with Garrus and Tali, having the input from my brother that they come into their own during the events of the second game. So I played the first game all the way through, then got to the second game with all the DLCs. Being a completionist, it took me some time to get through it, and by the time I was done, the Leviathan, Citadel and Extended Cut Ending DLCs were already out. So I played through the Lair of the Shadowbroker, rekindling my romance with Liara (in the second game I had romanced Miranda, even though she's a bitch, but I was a Chuck fan, and I broke it off when Liara was game again). So I'm going into a more complete ME3 than most people did. As soon as I got EDI on the team, I did all the Leviathan quests, learning early about the ancient f*cked up AI they created, who then created the reapers in the Leviathan's image, and then proceeded through the rest of the game and the emotional roller-coaster of saving the Krogan, losing Mordin, thinking that Grunt is gone but him coming back again with "anybody got something to eat?" (seriously, man-tears of joy) etc. I loved the game so far and I was like "why is everyone so hard on this game? Is the ending really that bad?" During the Ranoch quest, I didn't have enough paragade points to chose a mediating resolution, because I didn't save the admiral that I hated during the previous game and instead saved the f*ckin' civilians who were innocent, or because I chose to re-write the f*ckin' heretic geth who then went to the reapers BY CHOICE and worshiped them as gods, or Idk whatever. And Legion had acted kinda like a jerk throughout the missions, withholding information that he had reaper upgrades, that the re-written heretics were in the battle killing Quarians etc. Here I must point out that I got Legion relatively late in ME2, so I only did 2 missions with him (I had to go after my crew before they died), and I had no personal connection to him, compared to Garrus or Tali, or even Liara for that matter (who was also popping my thermal-clip, sic). So I was scolding Legion the whole time, and then he turned on me for choosing the Quarians. He tried to choke me to death. Motherf*cker, you're gonna be alive, the geth primes that I saved by going into your f*ckin' consensus without being prepared for it are gonna be alive down here. The geth who actually HELPED the f*ck out are gonna be alive, so SHUT THE F UP, be a good f*ckin' self replicating AI and as soon as the others are gone, re-upload yourselves into more geth platforms and start a new f*ckin' society without all the geth douchebags who went all "we worship you, space Cthuhlu" or whatever. But "NOOOOOO!", he wanted to save all the space-Cthuhlu-worship-nazi-geth too. So f*ck him. F*ck Legion and f*ck the geth. We got bigger problems right now, and Tali killed him and she felt sad about it. I didn't. NO PROBLEM. After that, I go up in the Normandy and EDI is like "you're a space racist, you killed the ones that looked less familiar to you", and Joker had some amazing lines that put her in her place, called her out on her bullsh*t. I was ready to space her out the airlock like Javik (space-bro for life) said. But then I had a wonderful conversation with her a few missions later, about how she'd "risk non functionality" in order to make sure that Joker would survive, so we were cool. "I did that in the beginning of the second game, girl!". fist-bump She was just a few years behind of where I was. Playing with Garrus and Tali throughout most of the games, I used to go to them after every quest, and I got to see them developing as a couple (I was like "WTF? This is so cool!"), so even though I was romancing Liara, she was in my squad only until I had both dextros on the team. So when I came up to the ending I was prepared for most of it. Garrus and Tali had hooked up in their banter after the missions, and I had the scene they were smootching by the gun battery, so I was happy for them, like having your two best friends that you know that they have become perfect for eachother through all the sh*t you've been through together, so... Obviously, I took Garrus and Tali with me in the last mission, even though I romanced Liara, and during the run I had Garrus not wanting to leave me. Tali was pulling him back to the Normandy. My brother kept saying that Tali and Garrus would never abandon him (he romanced them in his two playthroughs). They weren't abandoning me. Garrus was hurt, and Tali was clearly trying to save the love of her life. So I had no problem with that scene either. For the "starchild", I was like "you're just a d*ck AI the ancient giant Cthulhu squids created, they told me at the start of the game", and he was clearly on a killing-spree-loop. So he's like "I know you're thinking about destroying us" or something along those lines. And the "us" bit sealed it for me. "Yeah, I'm destroying you. All of you. You're clearly what's controlling the reapers, you're ON THEIR SIDE, and the other two options are your lousy attempts to continue your vicious cycle". So there's the sad music when EDI pops up during the end cinematic, and I'm like "she sacrificed herself to save Joker, as she blatantly told me she would, so this isn't THAT sad. It's actually kind of epic." And I even got the breath ending. So after playing ME3 all the way through, the feeling I had was that of completion. A few months later, when I got there with the rest of my playthroughs, I kept thinking "why was everyone so pissed off? This works great with a Jack romance, a Miranda romance, with a Femshep Liara romance, with a FemShep Kaiden romance, with a FemShep Thane romance (amazing ending at the Citadel DLC and all)" etc. Before I go into my final thoughts, I have to mention the other 2 options the catalyst gives you. 1. Control: It's the most hypocritical of the endings. There's a 95% chance that before you got there, like 17 minutes before, you used the line "We don't deserve that kind of power" on the Illusive Man. I couldn't, in all good conscience, go for that ending. And, honestly, I has kind of a douche as a Paragade Shepard myself. I was headbutting Krogans and punching Quarian admirals. Was I really the one to be in control of the galaxy's most deadly force imaginable? (and now imagine that my Paragade playthrough, as a completionist, was a better playthrough than all Renegade playthroughs and most Paragade playthroughs). 2. Synthesis: F*ck. That. This ending is morally appalling. I know Bioware is trying to steer you towards this ending like it's the best possible result, but seriously, f*ck that masterfully, with a reaper tentacle. Seriously? Making all the galaxy uniformed genetically? Doesn't it smell kinda like Nazism or at the very least a more morally decrepit Aryanism? For f*ck's sake, there's a statistical certainty that eventually, in some backwater planet that's uninhabited, somewhere in the galaxy, a few thousand/million/billion years from now, organic life will pop into existence. What are we, the green-cyborgy Aryans, gonna do to them? Grab them at their single-cellular organism state and force them to get nano-chips, or are we gonna wait for them to grow into multi-cellular intelligent life, then abduct them and probe their butts and make them cyborgs? WTF Bioware? Is this really a viable "good ending" for your standards? Finally, after going through some of the more obscure playthroughs, I kinda got why people were so upset by the endings. So basically, if you romanced Garrus or Tali, or choose Control or Synthesis, or played the game with Wreav after you killed Wrex, or if you went out of you way to achieve peace between the Quarians and the Geth (sacrificing a full liveship of civilians to save one admiral, my dear paragon, I might add) or played through the games without the DLCs etc, you were playing it wrong. Maybe I just got lucky my first several times through the game, but I insist. I had to struggle through the 5th or 6th playthrough I did, leaving civilians to die, killing krogan babies and punching reporters in the face, to get an ending I didn't like. You maybe hate the ending the first time you play the game, but then I have to quote Will Friedle from his stint in Critical Role. "Your fun is wrong". XD Love, Totem. P.S. The missions and parts of ME3 I didn't mention, I had no problems with. I can make an equally long post on how awesome the Citadel DLC was though.
@SoftExo
8 жыл бұрын
1. Ashley is not a speciest (?), if you know the character she is anything but, bother to have critical thought rather than knee jerk reaction to the very first thing she says. In ME2 she hates you because you're with racists that do the worst things to aliens, and by ME3, she calls Tali her little sister. 2. you got the same time with Legion everyone does, can't get Legion any earlier. Legion is not a jerk, he respects, admires you, as much as a consensus avatar can do. He uses your old N7 armor. 3. Geth didn't all join Reapers by choice, but the ones who did, did it for survival of the consensus versus Quarians. Just like the Humans are getting together with Turians (who just 30 years before were arch enemies, first contact war) just to fight Reapers, try and assure survival of the species. 4. Ranoch ties a few things from 2 and a few from 3. Rewritting the geth in 2 (i always do this) and not saving the admiral in 3 are minuses, but still don't prevent their peace as there are other factors, and you can resolve the situation with renegade as well, don't need paragon. 5. Tali and Garrus is why i never romance Tali. Garrus is a bro, and deserves all the good. Still Tali "im only using you for your body Garrus" xD 6. Control is saying yes to Reaper indoctrination, you become one. As a renegade immortal, you even talk like you're ready to start a new harvesting cycle soon. 7. Synthesis is more of the same. You force a choice upon everyone without consent, all while also transforming everything and ruining the milky way. Millions of Krogan are now green brutes, Turians are green Marauders, Asari are green banshees, Humans are green husks, Batarians are green Cannibals, and you have crap like Harvesters flying around. Wonderful little home you created. 8. Destroy is the only ending that achieves the trilogy purpose, and still fails, mostly cuz Bioware. If the catalyst can perfectly recognize organics and synthetics down to some sort of molecular level in synthesis, by Destroy, it can't tell a Reaper from a Geth or even EDI, so it tells you "i'll ruin them all" just to really give you shit endings all around. And 9. The ending to mass effect 3 is utter contrived shit because there is no narrative coherence (and not just in the ending), and there is a huge disconnect to what was done across some 100 hours of play. A brand new antagonist, a 7 year old ethereal child, is created in the last 5 minutes of the trilogy because the writer, Mac Walters, had no idea what he was doing anymore. NO DECISION has an impact on the big scheme of things, its but a number. Same ol 3 choices and pick one of these colors, just to receive eerily similar endings that respond nothing. "war assets" don't really do anything other than "you get low/high EMS con fuckin grats" and even multiplayer effects the single player campaign end. Instead of an epic galactic last stand that you worked so hard for, much like ME2 saw on suicide mission where a plethora of things come together, in ME3 there is fuck all. There is also no closure, LI situation remains unknown and unresolved, nobody knows what happened to any of the races, to your squad mates, nothing. There is a stupid slideshow. Mass Effect 3 ending is Bioware pissing on the core fans asking if it feels warm.
@VashdaCrash
8 жыл бұрын
Tripnotik25 Still no response to your comment, uh? I didn't read his
@KonguZya
8 жыл бұрын
I was kind of afraid to read your comment, but I did, and saw you picked Destroy, the only ending that I can even consider. I congratulate you.
@christiansmith3438
7 жыл бұрын
"you were playing it wrong" Is this an elaborate troll or do you actually think that?
@TheMMObro
7 жыл бұрын
Totem PsyClinic the ending rhat was objectively bad was the cur scene after before extended cut
@QwertyCaesar
9 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just a quick thought on Garrus' loyalty mission in Mass Effect 2, they missed a great opportunity to go with a third option. There's two substantial outcomes, Sidonis lives or Sidonis dies. However, if you pay mind to the flow of conversation, there should be three ways - Sidonis lives and Garrus is conflicted, Sidonis dies and Garrus is satisfied, or alternatively, at the end, after Sidonis has spilled his guts and said everything, you let Garrus decide what to do. Garrus shoots him, but then immediately afterwards has the same response as if you let him kill Sidonis right from the beginning. Its a phenomenally missed opportunity, to have Garrus conflicted about an action he's taken and have it hang over his head. It also has Garrus decide for himself who he wants to be, rather than having Shepherd chastise him. Sadly, nothing came of it. There's a lot that fails with Mass Effect 2, but that right there is in my opinion one of the most disappointing parts of the entire franchise.
@Sheechiibii
3 жыл бұрын
Sidonis dying is Garrus' choice, that's why he's satisfied with that outcome and conflicted with Sidonis living. Shepard is interfering by refusing to move and continuously trying to make Garrus change his mind, and after I believe the 5th time you refuse to move Garrus gives in, and is understandable conflicted about the outcome, but that is how Shepard saves Sidonis. Alternatively, Shepard can refuse to move, let Sidonis say his piece, let Garrus make his choice which is still to kill Sidonis, and then Shepard can move aside on that final choice and let Garrus do as he wishes. The game really did give us that option, it's there in the paragon choice, Shepard just ignores Garrus' choice in that case and pushes him to let Sidonis go.
@ChloeCinema
9 жыл бұрын
While ME1 does have the best narrative, ME2 is my favorite game in the trilogy as well as my favorite game of all time. The loyalty mission system is great as well as all the characters in general. The DLC of Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker, and the Arrival are also very well constructed. The suicide mission is one of the best finales to a video game, with everything leading up to it and the possibility of certain characters dying. However this does become an issue in ME3 when certain characters have boring surrogates like Mordin's or Wrex's.
@SaberRexZealot
9 жыл бұрын
Yup, Mass Effect 2 is The Empire Strikes Back of video gaming.
@Anacronian
9 жыл бұрын
+SaberRexZealot It's Empire strikes back if Michael Bay made it.
@DestructorN7
5 жыл бұрын
@@Anacronian Don't relate Michael Bay and mass effect please
@ItsSomeDeadGuy
4 жыл бұрын
@@SaberRexZealot It's more like The Last Jedi if The Last Jedi didn't ruin people's childhoods. It has some issues with its writing and overall doesn't really matter to the main Reapers plot, but the themes, characters, and many of the individual moments are incredible.
@C4Par1
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Noah, long-time follower of yours since the beginning. It strikes me as odd that a man of such intellect and analytical capabilities only earns 10 bucks/hr. You're selling yourself way too short by doing that. If you can deliver transcripts for your videos (I can tell you how to do that automatically) then I'd set up a blog/website for you (for free) where you can post them. The articles will require some more work (structuring, proof-reading) but it'll be worth the effort. Once finished you can use those as your journalistic portfolio and send them to selected publishers. Fantastic work as always btw.
@kevinmartell2813
5 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon this video, and while this is way late, I just wanted to say thanks for putting it together. Easily the best Mass Effect video I've seen so far!
@friedipar
3 жыл бұрын
So, you mention the "outrage" that Jacobs dad abandoned him "because he´s black" but not the fact that Jacob already has another woman pregnant after FemShep has been stuck on earth for a couple months? I thought cheating and getting sidehoes pregnant was one of the most prolific stereotypes for black americans, but i never heard anyone attribute that to his skincolour when ME3 came out...
@JBRewind
5 жыл бұрын
Tali was 22 in ME1, meaning she is 24 in the second game. Not as creepy to romance as you're making it sound.
@megamike15
5 жыл бұрын
yeah i was always under the impression she was younger in 1. like 17 or something. but that was due to the voice.
@anthonychase6906
Жыл бұрын
Plus the fact that they undergo pilgrimage after they come of age, not before
@Pelican07.23
8 ай бұрын
To be fair she's does give off young high school vibes. Also no matter how you play male shepard he always comes off as a mentor rather then a romance.
@JBRewind
8 ай бұрын
@@Pelican07.23 They grew up in very different places. In ME1, she's in your turf. You're teaching her how the galaxy works. That's just sharing knowledge. When ME2 rolls around and you go to the Flotilla, now it's Tali teaching you how things work, because now you're on her turf. I don't see ot as necessarily a mentor position. You're her superior, sure, because she is working under your command, but I don't see people saying it's inappropriate to romance Ashley.
@seroccoprime2774
9 жыл бұрын
You kinda sound like a salarian :o
@ARSA525
9 жыл бұрын
Well they're voiced by humans. >:)
@gastono8179
5 жыл бұрын
I love how Noah's Shepard ages through the 3 games
@eatme982
3 жыл бұрын
Disintegrating over 3 years.
@broastedgarlic7354
3 жыл бұрын
It is impossible for me to watch this without playing a few hours of Mass Effect while listening to it. Your evocations are wizardly.
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