It appears that this is NOT Josh Sattin's invention - see Connor Crickmore's trellises here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kZeVvpWlfIWEioY
@GoodTimesHomestead
Жыл бұрын
Still cool to shout him out. Way to find the credit.
@dear_prudence
Жыл бұрын
I set up this system three years ago. I'm crazy about it and can't see how I ever lived without it. And, since I hang horticultural netting on mine instead of running strings, mine are even easier to deal with. My tomatoes are woven through the 5x5 netting, my beans climb it, my cukes climb it, my neighbors are *totally* jealous to the point that they put one up less than two weeks after they saw mine. I have moved them around to different spots in my garden with no problem at all, easy up, easy down. Expensive? Maybe - but I'll never have to buy any of those parts again. Absolutely love it.
@djazgirl4115
Жыл бұрын
How'd you use the netting? Did you hang one straight down from the pipe between the posts or angle two pieces, one for each side?
@dear_prudence
Жыл бұрын
@@djazgirl4115 I attached Hortonova Trellis Netting from Hoss Tools to the conduit with zip ties every three feet. It looks like a fence with plastic netting instead of wire fencing now.
@joshua511
6 ай бұрын
how do you get the t-posts out of the ground?
@IrishUSMCVet
Жыл бұрын
Yes, we did these with my grandfather in the 80s, some with all galvanized pipe, and a few with tposts. There still there to this day. Works great, the grapes are older than me on the one.
@Igardenandcook
Жыл бұрын
Which do you like better? All conduit or the T posts with conduit? I’ve been trying to decide.
@IrishUSMCVet
Жыл бұрын
@@Igardenandcook the galvanized pipe we used was threaded like gas or fuel oil pipe, "Southland 1 in. x 10 ft. Galvanized Steel Pipe" which we concreted in. the t-posts are the way to go if you may want to move it later, a t-post puller will make quick work of pulling them up. i wouldn't use conduit in the ground as it may not last long due to corrosion.
@hughbrackett343
Жыл бұрын
My wife's introduction to Brutalist architecture was, well, brutal. We went to see The Nutcracker. When we walked into the theater, it was all unfinished concrete. I spent the time before the performance endeavoring to explain it to my wife and a small group of strangers who were listening in on my impromptu Architecture lecture.
@ScottHead
Жыл бұрын
Yep, this is my system for the past few years.
@Mekare40503
Жыл бұрын
Much props to Josh and the No Till Growers. Love their videos. ❤
@monkeymommy778
Жыл бұрын
We've used the trellis to make you jealous. It worked well to grow indeterminate tomatoes Sweet 100s. The only problem is that we were not so great in keeping the suckers from taking over. Yes, it's an investment in the beginning, but it's durable, portable, and should last for years to come.
@kathleensanderson3082
Жыл бұрын
David, if your conduit sags too much, you could cut some sticks with forks at one end, and put them under the conduit in the middle of a run to support it.
@j.b.6855
Жыл бұрын
I love this trellis. I put up three sections last year, and used them for tomatoes. Up to that point I had used cattle panel/tpost trellises. I now use them for small melons as they are stronger than the string. If I had more room for trellises I would use the jealous ones. If you dont want the sag try 3/4 instead of 1/2 inch. I did that for one trellis because I use it for big beefsteak type tomatoes. Its a few bucks more, but no sag.
@rosskstar
Жыл бұрын
Would cattle panel/tpost trellises carry the weight of older thick grape vines?
@j.b.6855
Жыл бұрын
@@rosskstar Im not sure because I have never tried it for those. But as thick as the wire (6 gauge) in the panel is I wouldnt doubt it would be fine. I would make sure to use stainless steel tpost clips and wrap them around the 6 gauge wire with some pliers so the panel doesnt come off the posts.
@rosskstar
Жыл бұрын
@@j.b.6855 aight - thx,, will do - one side will be up against a privacy fence, bolted to a rail. So keep eyes open for Christ's healing "hidden manna", now being gathered.
@teresathomley3703
Жыл бұрын
You're a national treasure too, Dave.👍
@lola8590
Жыл бұрын
Thank you David! Love you and yours.❤️
@robinwhitlatch4497
Жыл бұрын
That is not ugly at all and the plants will have it covered in no time. I have some 3/4” diameter heavy schedule pvc pipe I’m going to build a 20’ - 30’ long trellis like yours from this year for cucumbers & some pole beans & see how it holds up. Probably will put posts every 5‘ for better support. A few years ago I scraped up useful mismatched scrap materials from other projects out of my barn & built a trellis. It’s functional, strong and plants don’t care if it’s ugly & eventually cover it up.
@hughbrackett343
Жыл бұрын
My dad made us monkey bars of similar design. When I was about 10, a guy plowed into our chain link fence. My dad inserted the now U-shaped top rail into a pair of clothesline T-posts. These were not your Homeless Despot T-posts. They were welded steel water pipe. The monkey bars would support multiple kids and/or adults. My dad put up a wood fence on the theory that a car could only punch out a few sections instead of tearing out 50+ feet of chain link.
@joycee5493
Жыл бұрын
Love t-posts. They have so many uses!!!
@rogerbeck5704
Жыл бұрын
I too have the trellis....have made five of them for grapes, peas, blackberries, tomatoes and cucumbers. I also used 3/4" EMT for the top rail instead of 1/2" EMT. A great system that will last a lifetime.
@minivanmachoman
Жыл бұрын
I have been using this for 2 years now and I love it. Makes it VERY easy to care for my tomatoes and cucumbers. I agree, Josh IS A NATIONAL TREASURE! :)
@TheFabFarmer
Жыл бұрын
I was just talking with my husband last week about scheming up a good tomato trellis for the season. We came up with basically this same idea! I love the string method for my maters...I will never go back to the clunky cages or trellises.
@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
Жыл бұрын
I gave up PVC T connectors for a product from Maker Pipe that fits EMT pipe.
@Carolynfoodforest355
Жыл бұрын
Gonna try this. My discoria alotta pulled down a huge memosia tree.
@Green.Country.Agroforestry
Жыл бұрын
Last night, I broke down and ordered some fishing pole bamboo. We have the perfects spot, surrounded by concrete pads where it can't escape .. Maybe.
@konradrueb1567
Жыл бұрын
Been doing this for several years now. I use 3/4" conduit .Its stouter!!
@yukonsmomma3562
Жыл бұрын
Thanks David.
@barbararyan576
Жыл бұрын
When the conduit sags a little, just rotate them until they arch. Seems like they should straighten.
@user-ic2ug8ys1z
Жыл бұрын
Herrick Kimbell approved. 😃🌱🐢 I used HK's grape treillus from his book it works great for a permanent treillus. I will have to try Josh temporary triellus for annual vegetables like beans and squash.
@bhalliwell2191
Жыл бұрын
Before we got the kitchen garden enclosed (with a non-fence, no-permit-required-because-we're-"just-gardening" *trellis* surrounding it---there's a gate, but the gateposts were set deep and only back filled in what amounts to sand*stone*), the neighborhood cats (and one neighbor had about fourteen of them) would use that lovely, soft, very sandy soil as---- You know. Didn't want to harm the little darlings, but didn't want my kitchen garden to be used as their litter box, either, so I, and it was just I, would build "grids" which sat about six inches above the soil's surface and that worked a treat at keeping cats from squatting. Those grids, kinda like horizontal trellises in their way, were like your stick trellises in that these were made from cuttings or prunings from the shrubs, and sometimes some splicing was necessary. Essentially, the "lathes" (sorry: I'm sure there are correct terms I ought to be using!) were simply woven across a rigid frame which was lashed together at its corners, and the tension or pressure of the "lathes" (canes?) opposing each other kept everything steady and together. Each grid took me eight hours, a standard work day, to produce. Yep, pretty sad, that. I trust that would have decreased as I became more practiced at making them. Each quadrant of my small urban garden required six five-by-five-foot grids. The materials had been free, if we don't count the cotton string for the tying, but the investment in time was heavy: forty-eight hours per quadrant. No money available to buy even trellis netting stuff to attach to a frame made of shrub trimmings, so making it was the way to go. But a different neighbor would come over and help herself to whatever she needed for making that night's dinner, which was one thing, but she'd tromp through the beds and break the grids. And that's why we ended up enclosing the garden. All of the above is to say, I LOVE pretty, but if I can't have pretty and serviceable, I'll opt for utility every time and if I could have afforded the T-stakes, the T-couplers, and the EMT conduit back then, I'd have *so been there!*
@jeffmeyers3837
Жыл бұрын
If you slip a vertical white PVC pipe over the Tee Posts, you can make it much taller and it won't look as bad. I saw that on the Garden Like a Viking channel, so props to him on that.
@rosehavenfarm2969
Жыл бұрын
gosh, that's the one thing we don't have in our arsenal of farm tools and implements: teen aged boys. It's definitely too late for those tools... 😂
@matiasishere1487
Жыл бұрын
Best garden videos. 👍
@Jay-tk7ib
Жыл бұрын
I have mine on 10' T-posts, and I use Chainlink fence top rail. Expensive, but sturdy.
@lisascott9670
Жыл бұрын
This looks awesome!
@teresaroman3348
Жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos out of order and wondered about The Trellis to Make You Jealous. Thank you for explaining.
@pattigsbh4392
Жыл бұрын
Nice👍 Haven't seen it before. Thanks for sharing
@TheAdorkable-1
Жыл бұрын
P.S. I have my trellis to make em jealous. Thank you very much. I'm growing snake beans on them. I'm using some post also to grow my muscadines!
@FrogRogers
Жыл бұрын
David I need to send you one of my birdhouse mounts. It's used for game cameras and mineral blocks for deer. You might be able to find another use for it.
@cletushatfield8817
Жыл бұрын
I think a slight modification might be worth a try. Instead of PVC and pipes, just use clove hitches to attach a line from one end to the other. I wouldn't use nylon or any other type of material that stretches when wet. Jute cordage might be worth a try since it is natural and stands up to UV light pretty good. Not sure if it stretches when wet though. Paint your t-posts, or use rusted ones, and it'd probably disappear into the background. I think it'd be possible to minimize the number of posts if you had robust enough end posts, like osage orange or something.
@dogslobbergardens-hv2wf
Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting idea! Conduit is reasonably stiff; I'm guessing that's partly why Josh used it in the first place. The trouble with running horizontal lines is sag. Everything stretches/sags to some extent under tension or weight, even stout steel wire. That's why they typically put turnbuckles on the wires for grape trellises, so you can get them tight and keep them that way. And turnbuckles are kind of pricy themselves. But if the posts are only, maybe 8-10' apart at most? and tied off at each post, then perhaps the sag would be minimal. Or possibly use a cheap carabiner within the clove hitch so you can snug it up as needed? So the cost of using more t-posts might very well be offset by the savings from not buying conduit and PVC fittings. Just kind of thinking out loud here... hmmmm.
@cletushatfield8817
Жыл бұрын
@@dogslobbergardens-hv2wf Sticking with jute cordage and t-posts, a taut line hitch (in lieu of turnbuckles) might work for some. Might need to break the line up on longer runs to minimize the amount of weight on each adjustment. There are also little "figure 9" clips at REI that do more or less the same thing, but would add expense. If the posts were wood then all of the knots could be replaced by cleats, possibly even improvised with a couple of nails (which I've done for temporary clotheslines).
@cletushatfield8817
Жыл бұрын
Thought I'd return to share another idea. If going with the jute/t-post thing, when tying the clove hitches pull opposite posts towards each other by maybe an inch or three. T-posts have a little spring in them and I've used this trick to help make a fence nice and tight.
@terrieholloway9066
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@danielriddellsfoodforestgarden
Жыл бұрын
Ahh I love your Brutalist description 😂
@vimondireksri8820
Жыл бұрын
Aww.... Thanks for the mention Dave. I'm famous! :P always love your content.
@poodledaddles1091
Жыл бұрын
Is there enough support for the veggies to handle the wind? I know the posts and conduit can handle it, but what about the heavy tomato plants dangling on a string?
@Ricosyard
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man I definitely need a trellis upgrade lol I’ll check out Josh channel as well peace
@lcm0578
Жыл бұрын
Bahaha you made laugh when you said it was ugly 🤣! I like pretty but I'm cheap so this would work for me!
@tolgaswp
Жыл бұрын
I felt your pain. I live in the Middle East and I can't get half of what you guys have access to in the US.
@breaking_bear
Жыл бұрын
Great trellis, definitely functional and reliable.
@Lepotagerdesgourmands
Жыл бұрын
Bonjour David merci top🙏🙏🙏
@cameronalexander359
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a woven willow fence 🎉
@ChadnRanda
Жыл бұрын
I had my dog big kennel out in the backyard we got a bigger and better one I threw green beans and purple pole beans all around it last year ended up absorbing the kennel😂😂😂 it looked so cool.. now it's a compost bin
@oreopaksun2512
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your vines stressing those trellises. Since guerrilla gardeners in HOA's can't really have much that screams "Productive Edible Garden Here", I may have to start with those picturesque Shire structures until I figure out how to grow such great vines that the trellis structure is entirely covered. Macrame with bamboo and jute, I am thinking.
@thadrobinson8343
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear more about any tips or techniques you've learned for under-the-radar gardening. HOA rules are only one reason to disguise a Productive Edible Garden.
@TheEmbrio
Жыл бұрын
Soak the jute in linseed oil for it to last at least a season. Something that looks like a harbor (arbor ?!) Will work as ’landscaping’
@nicko978
Жыл бұрын
My local hardware store had steel pipe t's for just under 2x the price of the pvc. I figured it was worth paying up front because they will absolutely last more than twice as long as pvc baking in the sun.
@JupiterMoJo
Жыл бұрын
Thanks PB. Here in FL my favorite is trolling for Mahi Mahi.👍
@caribecastaway6447
Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Spray painting the PVC T's will protect them from the sun and keep them from becoming brittle and cracking.
@Jay-tk7ib
Жыл бұрын
Or use metal instead of PVC. Paint will not be good for the soil when it eventually falls off.
@pineywoodsurbanhomestead4988
Жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for trellising in a grocery row garden with the trees and everything intermingled and the annuals just kinda chaotically dispersed in between?
@pineywoodsurbanhomestead4988
Жыл бұрын
Oh actually nevermimd. I found it in your grocery row garden book lol. My grocery row gardens are FILLED with tomatoes and peppers so I guess it's just going to be challenging. May have to raid a bamboo forest somewhere lol
@lilspittin313
Жыл бұрын
Ecstasy enriching inspiration of a KZitem upload...vines growing galorE!
@coreyellerbe
Жыл бұрын
I built one of these for a marionberry that I recently bought. I used PVC pipes instead of conduit, though, so I'm going to have to reinforce about every five feet. Oh well, it'll still work.
@Pamsgarden213
Жыл бұрын
For an easy way to make them prettier, use Rustoleum to pain the T-posts.
@londonpickering8675
Жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@FreeAmerican-mm2my
Жыл бұрын
What about comfrey? Why no videos on comfrey? Or cane sugar?
@WyattLCombs
Жыл бұрын
I built the trellis to make you jealous this year and it’s great so far! Best and easiest design to build and set up in my opinion. And I like how easy it is to move and reuse.
@WyattLCombs
Жыл бұрын
Got yams going on them now too! They’re climbing like crazy!
@cptnd3851
Жыл бұрын
I got T posts but instead of using conduit at the top I got thick gauge steel wire, which was like five bucks for a hundred feet, and some nylon masonry string. I've tied the wire at the top and the bottom horizontally, and I'm going to add the string horizontally every notch of the T post. then I'll have a string vertically for each vining plant once they've been transplanted. This is my first year doing it, but I hope it works. The wire and string are barely visible so it's not nearly as ugly as the conduit and pvc setup.
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I would love to see pictures.
@zauraiz
Жыл бұрын
How did you attach the wire to the t posts? What gauge wire would you recommend?
@daigledj
Жыл бұрын
Works good, will stand up to a CAT 3 hurricane. Branches falling, not so much for the conduit
@MansterBear
Жыл бұрын
Weird timing. I just found that video a few weeks ago and got all the stuff to trellis my cucumbers and tomatoes. I’ll be glad to hear your opinion on it
@boldorfoolish
Жыл бұрын
I tried this with tomatoes and if the conduit joints weren't perfectly centered on the PVC T them the conduit connector broke
@czmiccommando537
Ай бұрын
I built one, but with bamboo!
@banxious4nothing
Жыл бұрын
what are you using to anchor the string?
@InTheGarden2070
Жыл бұрын
I would be really jealous if you spaced the T-post 8 feet apart and painted them like Roots and Refuge did. ';D
@onionring1531
Жыл бұрын
I've been using bamboo for the top until I find a cheap steel replacement because steel conduit just doesn't exist in my country.
@TheEmbrio
Жыл бұрын
Wood dowels (like broomstick handles) could do well, with a closer spacing for the posts...
@Saltwatercowboy79
Жыл бұрын
Lol Josh is LEGEND. Awesome dude learned a lot from him over last few years I'm glad you gave him a shout out and credit! Thanks always DTG we love you too brother.🤙🇺🇸🇷🇺✌️
@lunkerpond9765
Жыл бұрын
Josh copied this from a Connor Crickmore of Neversink Farms video years after Connor was using it. Know where the actual credit should be given versus supporting that phony that just copies other people..
@Saltwatercowboy79
Жыл бұрын
@Lunker Pond lol 10 4 good buddy c'mon back... how about a nicer way to say what you said beta, how the fk are we supposed to know this?? I gather you're the kind of beta that doesn't ever think past 13 years old though so how about we give you a PASS, you SHOW folks the truth you're alleging and we go from there?!? Man no need to have your panties all jacked have a bud light put your unicorn helmet back on and COME AGAIN. 🤙🇺🇸🇷🇺✌️
@lawrencerobinson6700
Жыл бұрын
I want an update on your trellis. The one you park cars on.
@Vaessen13
Жыл бұрын
Have YOU heard of comfrey!!!!
@amberemma6136
Жыл бұрын
Hey you know you could probably either spray paint it all black to streamline it or even take your willow whips and wrap it so you still have the strength but also have the aesthetics you like as well? Just a thought?
@charlesyork4461
Жыл бұрын
change from 1/2 to 1 in. will be much stronger. !!
@BarbaraShafferIsagenix
Жыл бұрын
Hey David what's that plant behind you? Not the taro looking plant but the other mounding one?
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
The so-so looking plant?
@dogslobbergardens-hv2wf
Жыл бұрын
I'm just jealous of anyone who can simply drive t-posts in the ground and be done with it. Part of our place is bare rock and the deepest soil I've found on it so far is barely 18" deep... so t-posts don't really work for me. You should see the over-engineering I had to do to build the fence around our backyard. Each wooden post has 200+ pounds of concrete in an x-pattern as a base. That was a stoopid amount of work, and it wasn't cheap. If the thing does ever fall over... I give up. The dogs can just run away and the bears can come on in 🤣
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
Holy moly. Reminds me of the stacked stone fences in rocky Tennessee.
@dogslobbergardens-hv2wf
Жыл бұрын
@@davidthegood it may have been faster and easier to gather and stack stones, now that you mention it 🤣
@christineclapham6579
Жыл бұрын
I like it....I just like my cattle panel better😉😉
@PlantObsessed
Жыл бұрын
A Hobbit garden would be cool, but lasts forever is better.
@drewsfoodforest_tv
Жыл бұрын
I got my t posts free from the neighbor Nextdoor taking down and old pasture fence
@akmaristify
Жыл бұрын
I heard u mentioned bamboo leaves for mulch. Why don't u use bamboo poles for trellis
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
I have, but it's high effort and they rot fast.
@DSwann
Жыл бұрын
What if you replaced the conduit with copper? 😮
@TheEmbrio
Жыл бұрын
Copper is softer than steel so the posts should be closer, runs shorter.
@TheVigilantStewards
Жыл бұрын
I liked your grapevine lines with those big posts and heavy duty lines, how would that compare to this?
@spraycanart72
Жыл бұрын
Someday..... I've got the T posts in, but i am still ghettoing it together. This years trellis (to make you cringe - and likely to collapse in september) is made from pieces of our old couch. 😆
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
It's not redneck - it's sustainable!
@braddoty55
Жыл бұрын
I've been hearing a lot about Comfrey lately. Can you do a video on the pros & cons of Comfrey?
@ccccclark2605
Жыл бұрын
He did! ❤️
@catofthecastle1681
Жыл бұрын
Hilarious!!!!!
@TheEmbrio
Жыл бұрын
Another one just to be thourough... ;)
@ronaldtapp7299
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get your machete
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
The Agriculture Store, on the Carenage, Grenada, West Indies.
@mezenman
Жыл бұрын
You can bring that trellis down with to much weight. Someone may have planted way to many pole beans for one poor conduit. It was sagging when a wind storm hit. What is nice is I just bent the conduit back and it was back in action.
@hdrider2071
Жыл бұрын
New book idea ? 101 ways to make a stick trellis😂
@macoppy6571
Жыл бұрын
I wonder who makes T-posts?
@yurimig253
Жыл бұрын
What about using corn as a trellis grow corn every few feet. Just curious anyone try this.. great stuff by the way, No, this is not a corny joke. Although we'll see I'm trying it out lol😂
@briankubik5041
Жыл бұрын
Is Josh still making videos?
@Shane_O.5158
Жыл бұрын
but, but , what about Comfrey ?
@thecurrentmoment
Жыл бұрын
Is the infamous renowned 'jealous trellis'? I've heard that it ruined many gardener's lives in the 19th century, and now it's back...
@tradermunky1998
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but does it make me jealous? I dunno, Mittleider trellises make me more jealous.
@Shane_O.5158
Жыл бұрын
so in th Windies, use bamboo for your trellis.
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. We used a lot of sticks, and bamboo for projects. It just wasn't possible to get T-posts or cattle panels, and everything we could get that was imported was also expensive.
@Shane_O.5158
Жыл бұрын
@@davidthegood , you don't need tell me about importing and expensive, i live in Australia, anything imported cost more for shipping than the item itself. and customs don't allow some plants, the rest co$t $$$
@whitefeather572
Жыл бұрын
What.. no comfrey? 😂
@ladyhammer8188
Жыл бұрын
There is no sound on your video!!!!!!!!
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
The problem is on your end.
@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority
Жыл бұрын
If you want it less ugly.. send the girls through with ribbons and bows.. or paint.
@Justme58891
Жыл бұрын
Love the idea ...i am going to try.what was those yams you said you grew on them ? Thank you
@JONO5K1
Жыл бұрын
Bamboo is surely the best material?
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
It rots
@mio.giardino
Жыл бұрын
@derekclawson4236
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing what your gardens look like by mid summer and fall. Trying to grow bigger this year myself. I'm now a full-time nursery man and living off my efforts aside from the occasional work with my bee keeper buddies. Hoping and praying I can survive solely on my own homestead production. Please send a prayer for success my way. I also still owe you a care package of random plants whenever you are ready to call the tab. Thanks for helping to promote us a few times on your livestreams and such.
@davidthegood
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!!!
@ifyouloveChristyouwillobeyhim
Жыл бұрын
Good for you! Just doing a little better each year is the goal, right? Last year all I did was plant a single basil in 90% shade and neglect it. You're manymany years ahead of me!!
@irritadad1848
Жыл бұрын
Isn't the real question here "Will it boost/eliminate my comfrey production"?
@robinmarie5180
Жыл бұрын
I watched a guy use the side handle on the post pounder to pull his t- posts out. He just put the t- post through the handle and pulled, the post came right up.
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