UPDATES: 1. Max laser range may be 200M (i had the wrong number written down). 2. Thanks to some commenters I have tested the Reload-hold UI vs the left-bottom UI heat menus and there IS a discrepancy. The dagger can have 8-10% heat while the UI says empty. This does not necessarily explain everything but it explains some of it.
@Gadamlu
5 ай бұрын
Can confirm for the LAS-98 cannon. testing with spore spewers its maximum range is 200m
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thank you!@@Gadamlu
@Cord64_o7
5 ай бұрын
Are you on PS5? PS5 has different HP of enemies and other nurfs and buffs.
@Shadowhawkdark
5 ай бұрын
A bit late to the party, but you mentioned having problems getting accurate times for activating the weapons. I suggest looking up some programs/tools that show your button presses from your mouse/keyboard 'on screen', that way you can have a visual indicator of the moment you press the button and the moment you let go. It might help with some of the issues you were mentioning around 20:30?
@themarlboromandalorian
5 ай бұрын
Those variations in cooldown. Might be RNG by design as no matter how well something is machined, it will have variations and manufacturing defects... Might be the fact this game has to communicate with a server and ping /frame rate affects speed of data sent Vs data received... And stuff always disappears in an exchange as entropy is the nature of our reality.
@user-rv8yv4yh9n
5 ай бұрын
From experience, never try to climb a hill while your scythe guard dog is firing, extremely likely to give unwanted neck-up haircuts 💀
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Its the kind of close shave only a machine can provide.
@Kasumi_Tashi
5 ай бұрын
that's why you climb while looking at whatever direction is firing to make sure it never hits you, specially since Liberty's hand is guiding you
@cakes1831
5 ай бұрын
Laser spine surgery
@Xenbiotic
5 ай бұрын
if you simply stand on top of a wall where the bugs are almost under your feet but just far below then you will lose your helmet. Just have to kite
@DMSBrian24
5 ай бұрын
Those things are rly annoying when more of your teammates bring them and not all that useful either, you're way better off with shields.
@D13373DSTI
5 ай бұрын
the length of the video wasn't a problem, I'd rather see a very complete detailed video like this than an short video.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I appreciate you providing your thoughts on the length quite a lot.
@williamleopoldo8296
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tkseconded. the length is only bad if you did not have so much data and testing. but you did well at looking at many angles. i wondered about HS-decay but you are the only one i'd seen test it. well done.
@itsthelepto
5 ай бұрын
>Flashbang >2 second lazer into Hulk face >Move on to next target
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Correct. I love it.
@WeightedFedora
5 ай бұрын
If you put magnified sights on a laser cannon you are gonna fry your retina.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thats what the super space sunglasses are for.
@NoNameNinjaa
5 ай бұрын
"Super Earth Super Store Sponsored Spectacles of Spatial Subjucation."~ "Only 1,500 super credits per month for the first 3 months! Terms and conditions may apply. Super Earth Superstore and Super Earth Super Store Subsidiaries are not liable for any cranial implantation or damage to vision post wearing Super Earth Super Store Sponsored Spectacles Of Spatial Subjugation." - My Commanding Officers white noise machines ad it plays every hour on the hour... (love the video btw
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Not sure i need any help on VA stuff right now but I'll keep that in mind in future!
@DummyThiccc
5 ай бұрын
"your injury is not service-connected"
@TheModdedwarfare3
5 ай бұрын
For democracy
@dev5576
5 ай бұрын
unflashy editing, consistent cadence, great enunciation, i don't even need to pay attention to pay attention. i have adhd and you're great man. subbed
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! I'm very glad you liked it.
@StellariumSound
5 ай бұрын
Finally, a HD2 guide channel I'm not embarrassed to watch.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Now that feels like some pretty high praise. Thanks!
@Rafael_Fuchs
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Technical, no silly antics to keep the attention of children, and the info is well organized. You may not gain the views of all the kids playing the game, but you'll definitely build a dedicated, niche, audience.
@AndryNuts
5 ай бұрын
@@Rafael_Fuchsare there rly kids playing? In 24 hours i only saw 2-3 people doing vc and all sounded at least like high schoolers
@Rafael_Fuchs
5 ай бұрын
@@AndryNuts It's a videogame. It's safe to assume there's always kids playing it. My nephew adores this game. Lol
@jrockoclock7088
5 ай бұрын
The dagger is weird in that it doesn't follow the design logic of the other sidearms which actually have higher damage output or at least damage per shot of their primary 'parallels.' Senator revolver does more damage than the DMRs per shot with more AP. Default pistol does more damage than the liberator series per shot. MP does more damage with higher fire rate than the liberator and more dps than the defender smg. So it's strange to me that the dagger as compared to the scythe does less damage, has worse heat cap, has fewer magazines, and is seemingly less accurate. I expect a tradeoff for the potential infinite ammo but it strikes me as weird that it's the only sidearm that is worse in every aspect than its most closely related primary.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thats very interesting. I didnt notice that about the pistols until you mentioned it. Here's hoping we see something for the dagger. I like it but not more than other options.
@jrockoclock7088
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk I want to like it it was the thing I was most excited for in the pack.
@AlexDenton0451
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Following up on this, it could be cool to see a 400 DPS Dagger with the current burn time. It's a dagger, something not meant for extended fights, but for doing heavy damage quickly. It would also give it a huge place to rival the Machinepistol, for single targets at a time.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
oh that's a really cool idea actually. Swap it on its face. High damage, low fire time. @@AlexDenton0451
@thebigiron2950
5 ай бұрын
It could also be changed into more of a general 'microwave'. A high damage cone of heat meant to cook large swarms of small enemies at mid range. Like if the flamethrower was less like a 'projectile' and more hitscan-esque.
@UnkieNic
5 ай бұрын
Diving to the club, calling in resupplies of lean. This is what we're fighting for.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Everywhere is a party with the right attitude.
@saltire_2825
5 ай бұрын
So that’s what all the liber-TEA they’re talking about is…
@forestcampbell8962
5 ай бұрын
Sippin on some sizzurp.
@Reach4God1
5 ай бұрын
Why don't we have a laser sentry turret? I understand not having a laser eagle, they're supposed to be a fast (usually explosive) hit. But the sentry is the only 'weapon' that's lacking a laser option. Obviously the walker is new, but an eventual laser walker would be cool. Would also solve the problem of the walker being useless once it's out of ammo.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I had all these same thoughts. Need laser walker immediately.
@MrRolnicek
5 ай бұрын
The infinite usability is exactly the reason why these things don't exist. Sure they could just put a laser sentry that has limited beam time and then it shuts off. And they should, it would be fun. For the Mech though, I don't see a way for them to limit the ammo and have a heat based weapon at the same time. Would just be too strong.
@nunull6427
5 ай бұрын
@@MrRolnicekIt has no reloads for overheating, so instead of being useless when it's out of ammo, it's useless when you use it too much and have to get out to fight instead(where it'll probably get mauled) It also wouldn't do well against the armored targets without explosives, due to how long you'd have to shoot one most likely.
@Koltino
5 ай бұрын
@@MrRolnicek what if overheating blows the mech up tho
@diastin
5 ай бұрын
Solve it the same way they solved the Laser Cannon - very limited reloads when you overheat it
@spookiboys
5 ай бұрын
that intro is so funny and something that's annoying with balancing around "infinite ammo" is that the arc thrower also does that AND pierces armor AND can deal with swarms without any sort of battery or heat or anything
@sabinekine2737
5 ай бұрын
I think the trade off with the arc thrower is supposed to be the large risk of friendly-fire.
@hakuslayer7918
5 ай бұрын
@@sabinekine2737 also that it has a chance to crash the game when fired XD
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I think I'm largely fine with the laser guns even though they are a bit weaker, they do perform decently. With better sights they could serve well as off brand sniper rifles and that would make them a lot better I think. The dagger needs help though. I suspect we will see Sickle nerfs too.
@Vazik05
5 ай бұрын
@@sabinekine2737 Except you just have your whole group run the arc resistant armor from the new warbond and everyone run arc throwers and absolutely destroy missions. Smoothest gameplay I've seen. Makes the friendly fire nonexistent and the damage is absurd. Except after the newest patch where arc thrower crashes your game of course.
@Vedrlaufnir
5 ай бұрын
I just want to say that the reason they made the Sickle that way is because we used to abuse it on OG helldivers, since it was a pew pew laser instead of a constant beam, we used to handle it as a semi instead of an auto, which ironically made it so it NEVER overheated and still did amazing damage.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
That's really interesting. I think I really missed out on HD1, it seems like it was a great game.
@rambo-cambo3581
5 ай бұрын
I hope all these video titles saying it's OP doesn't get it nerfed Because it really isn't OP, it fits well into the arsenal
@Vedrlaufnir
5 ай бұрын
@@rambo-cambo3581 it wasn't OP on OG Helldivers, and those that were OP *cough* Trident *cough* were nerfed slightly, making them viable, but not the very best there was.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I certainly do not make the claim that any of the lasers are OP. The L.Cannon is just solid. @@rambo-cambo3581
@raven75257
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tkIt "wasn't" a great game. It still IS a great game
@Akabane101
5 ай бұрын
4:53 - surprise, surprise -- how the turn tables. Love to see the laser weapons having such a strong purpose as an anti-air tool. I'm in love with these things. So fun.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not alone out here suddenly having a lot of fun with lasers. Thanks very much for stopping by!
@deadheaddave9657
5 ай бұрын
Don’t think I didn’t notice that mechanicus reference at 2:45 Praise be the omnisiah
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH
@Get5ome
5 ай бұрын
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh - it disgusted me
@blak4831
5 ай бұрын
Honestly I'm still kind of surprised that lasers perform so poorly against armor. It would be interesting if the laser cannon at least was specialized not as an armor piercing tool, but an armor stripping tool (does very little damage to the enemy underneath the armor, but sustained fire can *remove* the armor)
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I'd love to see armor stripping added to the weapons. They're fun to use after you get used to the lower TTK so having other support advantages could be a blast.
@Vazik05
5 ай бұрын
Agreed. Lasers in general are capable of cutting through just about anything there is, so they should do less damage overall, but slice through armor like butter.
@rambo-cambo3581
5 ай бұрын
Cant justify taking the laser cannon on harder difficulties
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I can't see why. The laser cannon is really quite good. The only thing it struggles with is bile titans and large numbers of chargers. Otherwise its just a great multi-tool. @@rambo-cambo3581
@ryanpost1446
5 ай бұрын
I run sickle, laser pistol, laser cannon. Orbital rail, 500kg, gaurd dog, and I'm an unstoppable force against the bugs. 90% chance I'll have the most kills on my team (I target whatever is closest to doing damage to me or my team mates I try my best to prioritize not just kills as many smalls as possible) scorcher , uzi , rail gun (rail gun max charge still 1 shots automatons in the head except the ranks and cannons) eagle cluster, orbital rail, and 500kg. Again, unstoppable and get most kills while prioritizing the heavies. And remember helldivers. Whenever you're out of options you can use call ins that arrive in hellpods as a bullet from the sky, stick that stragem to a charge and wait for impact and boom 1 shots chargers and hulks and does around 90% damage to a tank. You're all welcome
@Sexploitsful
5 ай бұрын
Teach me your secrets, O Regi of the Nald.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
There were so many. I would for sure suggest dropping by the tips, tactics and idiosyncrasies section. Its the most practical and has the most "neat" things.
@Phos9
5 ай бұрын
Regarding the discrepancy in fireing times, I have a suspicion that the very bottom of the heat gauge isn’t displayed
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
That would be interesting. It certainly could be the case.
@TheModdedwarfare3
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tkyou should have held R to see exactly when it hit 0
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I found that UI to not always work clearly but it probably could have been done that way for sure.
@pockets8548
5 ай бұрын
that would make sense and maybe just have it tied to the bar fills as you hold the trigger and they have a tiny frame of build up before the laser fires and just have it timed so its visible when the laser shows up
@pretentiousdude
5 ай бұрын
Gonna have to agree on the Sickle sights. They're just so good. I wish more guns had that sight.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I'm really jealous every time I use the sickle. Hopefully attachments system gets released soon.
@HelplessTeno
5 ай бұрын
Lasers have been my favorite. The Scythe was very disappointing though, so the release of the Sickle has made it a way more viable setup to go full-lasers. I don't mind that it's not a laser weapon, I just want the Infinite Ammo so I can swap between it and the LAS Cannon and just never stop firing. That being said the Sickle will 100% be nerfed soon.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I really agree with this post. I plan to put some time into testing the breakpoints and TTKs on the Sickle soon. Lot of irons in the fire.
@vineveer4358
5 ай бұрын
For those having problems with the laser dog, it will always try to stay in the upper right corner of YOUR screen. Yes, it moves when you go to aim down sights for this reason. Yes, your allies can know exactly where your camera is facing if they're watching your laser dog. Be careful when rotating left or right to make sure your dog's laser doesn't hit your head, you can control where it's firing from.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I actually finally worked this out myself last night.
@nomadicwolf6132
5 ай бұрын
You did great w/ this video format: - solid data / testing (for a 2 man team pioneering this research, what more could you ask?) - great footage - excellent tactics / suggestions - practical loadouts based on experience - highlighting all key details & use cases for anyone who wants to implement the lasers themselves I'd given up on lasers completely (except Sickle), so you've definitely opened my eyes to more possibilities, especially for the laser canon.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate you taking the time to type up that feedback. It helps to know what people think of what I put together here. I've been getting some surprisingly strong numbers against bugs while LASERMAXXING lately. Like double most other people in the last few games. They definitely might be being slept on due to their low initial impact. Or maybe I'm just getting better at the game and should use good weapons.
@TheW1tcher78
5 ай бұрын
This is literally the best video about helldivers on the entire YT platform. Good montage, proper data and tests, just the most reliable source of data about weapons I was using, answering all the questions
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm am definitely glad you enjoyed it especially since I was uncertain if the length would be a problem.
@Acesahn
5 ай бұрын
A sickle, a laser canon, the new laser pistol and a laser rover... The Beamlord?
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Clearly if you're using the sickle instead of the scythe you're merely a beamcaptain.
@Tacdelio
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk both are peasant weapons used for farming.
@plague1739
5 ай бұрын
The scythe is simply much cooler than the sickle. Now give me a higher magnification sight on it or hell add a sniper variant of some kind so I can delete enemies from 200 meters with lasers.
@standupmoko9618
5 ай бұрын
The depth and effort of this video is very much appreciated.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed making most of it and I'm glad so many people have enjoyed watching it.
@mr6291
5 ай бұрын
Gotta love that laser cannon bounce when it's riding on the back. It's feeling that club vibe LOL.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thump thump thumping to the beat
@cashcrop_
5 ай бұрын
15:51 Dude! That tank!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
That was such a literal looney toons moment.
@Mastercheap
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tkthis is actually the bots newest tactic, drop the tank on the enemy, what are you going to do, shoot it?
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
the funny part is those grenades I hucked at it didn't kill Cash. @@Mastercheap
@sturmmagnunstein1008
5 ай бұрын
Oh hey cash. I play helldivers now. Cheers.
@cashcrop_
5 ай бұрын
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 wassup, sturm (i say your name way cooler in my head than comes across written)
@colonelherpderp1824
5 ай бұрын
This is the kind of specs I wish we could see more clearly in-game. Great work figuring out the different oddities of these guns.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I wish we had better stats and a testing range. Thanks for your compliment!
@Gforce81000
5 ай бұрын
After finally getting the medals for the Dagger and being able to put together a 100% Laser build, I was surprised at how well it works. Its so nice having an unlimited ammo option across all 3 of your weapon slots, just simply swap back and to account for the heat gain. Dagger for chaff and maybe hunters, scythe for chaff and more mainline enemies, cannon for everything more armored. Had huge success going for legs and joints and crippling foes rather going for pure "headshots" only, was very effective to burn legs off as bugs tried to crawl forth. Stun grenades step in for emergencies and when you need to pin a charger in place to melt his ass off lol
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I fully agree with you. I'm still playing like this and having a very fun time and my opinion is that the weaknesses of the weapons are made up for by the constant DPS of just lasermaxxing for full firetime.
@z--r0
5 ай бұрын
13:30 You might actually be heating up the air around you and therefore reducing the fire time. My teammate recently noticed that his Sickle was overheating a lot faster when another teammate was using flamethrower nearby.
@spiggityspoo756
5 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting theory, I feel like that might be handy to test at some point. I guess that also helps to solidify the lasers’ place as a mid-long range option so you’re not too close to the flamers in the front, assuming that effect is distance based. Maybe once arc weapons get fixed something similar can be done to test if they also affect heat buildup too.
@Shibby
5 ай бұрын
my favorite tip was the complaint, all for that real talk/feedback
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Hello! Thanks for coming by. Glad you liked that bit. I spent too many hours with these guns and I was starting to get really annoyed by their sights. Gotta keep it real.
@nikolaskulka9574
5 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate longer in-depth vids like this
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Then I am very pleased to have made it, I've gotten a good reception despite the length.
@nikolaskulka9574
5 ай бұрын
@Reginald-sc9tk I think There's so many lazy "BEST META HELLDIVERS 2 LOADOUT" type of videos being made right now that something with proper testing like this really stands out 👌
@personguy8485
5 ай бұрын
This video made me go and try a full laser kit and my god it works great. it's also making me want to see a video or two on what you would consider the different "roles" and some ideas on gear loadouts for them.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I've been kinda playing with ideas around team tactics. Its a cool idea.
@ItsNorthernStar
5 ай бұрын
I would like to add to the charger comment about when to shoot them I have tried numerous times with testing them out and it seems you can just shoot the legs at anytime and kill them relatively fast with either ballistic weaponry or laser weapons, IF you shoot one of their front legs pretty quickly after dodging a single charge. For some reason the front legs will be allowed to take damage after avoiding a dodge and if you keep shooting it, the leg wont be given its armor deflection back. Sometimes you can even keep shooting the leg as it's charging and it'll till take damage. Ive had this happen without ever stripping the leg armor numerous times. Ive tried with the liberator, pistol smg, stalwarts, machine gun, slugger, breaker, sickle, laser cannon, and even the punisher. They all were effective at killing chargers in seconds if you get the timing right. Idk if its a bug or not but it's 100% been a life saver and my go to strategy when my stratagems are on cooldown
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Very helpful and something I've benefitted from lately thanks to your comment.
@ItsNorthernStar
5 ай бұрын
@Reginald-sc9tk no problem, i just wish it was a more well-known strategy atm. I'm still not sure whether it's intentional or not
@michaelwestmoreland2530
4 ай бұрын
Please do every single part of this game. The level of professionalism, due dillegence, and simply overall quality of research and presentation is outrigut staggering. If you had a super thanks unlocked, I'd gladly donate. Edit: You absolutely DO have Super Thanks. Donation incoming.
@Reginald-sc9tk
4 ай бұрын
I am certainly going to do my best to cover more content. Some of the stuff I'm doing now is taking longer than expected but I want to do more weapon tutorials as well as strategy and tactics guides.
@DirvishTheCat
5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I've seen so many stress test videos that cover everything BUT the las cannon. So good to see my new favorite support weapon get some love and testing.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Very happy to have provided a detailed breakdown for one of our favorite weapons.
@anthonyfoote3178
5 ай бұрын
"Glorious Beamlord" had me lmao.
@meka806
5 ай бұрын
I always loved your darktide build videos so I'm so glad you moved to Helldivers 2 and are still making in depth weapons videos. Keep up the good work.
@Pinoisreadingabook
5 ай бұрын
good, because that game is just a cash shop disguised as a game
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
In my view the gameplay team did a good job but they were absolutely ruined by bad monetization and bad resource allocation.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! I've been having a great time in helldivers land and its been fun figuring out how to do better videos. This one was too long I think, but I think it will make my next videos better.
@leadpaintchips9461
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Honestly, if you have the ability to, having smaller individual breakdown videos for each weapon and then longer, overall 'themed' breakdown videos like this would be great.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Definitely a good idea. If I can muster the time I will!
@hyanehighoctane
5 ай бұрын
Few things i wish to add: 1. Pleaaasse release the spreadsheets for viewing, im sure a lot of us want to see the data! 2. The dagger while having a comparable "draw time" to other pistols is slower to draw due to the spinup, making it a bad "combo/emergency backup" tool, been trying to use it with the new plasma shotgun but due to the reliance on switching to if for when an enemy goes in too close for the splash damage to affect me it makes it bad as a "get off me" item despite its great ammo economy 3. The format was great, i like long form videos myself 4. I feel like talking about how weapons feel and flow is important in its own right, but its always important to preface that the feel part is personal opinion
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Your feedback is gratefully recieved. Much appreciated. Great point on spool time. On item #1 the whole spreadsheet at this time is in this video. Once I get a bigger data set I will release it for sure!
@thirdtag8661
5 ай бұрын
I would love a shield generator relay video! My favorite combo with it is the 120mm barrage on top of the shield gen
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Ok wait i never thought of doing this and it sounds extremely fun.
@thirdtag8661
5 ай бұрын
The somewhat recent buff of the barrages getting an extra volley messed with the timing of the shield timer, so the last barrage has a chance of landing hitting teammates/you. Pls buff shield uptime Arrowhead :')
@alexanderhamilton4258
5 ай бұрын
Very glad to find out I'm not the only Lasmaxxer here. Scythe, Rover, Lascannon minimum.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Its just fun
@Fireheart318
5 ай бұрын
A stationary laser turret with infinite ammo would be extremely helpful. And a flamethrower turret while we’re at it!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Now that sounds fun!
@TheGreatChrisB
5 ай бұрын
Since projectile weapons have randomized hit spread, it's possible that laser weapons have randomized run time. Instead of it being set to exactly 9 seconds, maybe it's 7.99-9.99 seconds based on a bell curve so it mostly hits in the middle, but has potential for larger discrepancies.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thats an interesting idea
@no-oneyou-know1558
5 ай бұрын
i deadass traded my darktide/VT addiction for a HD2 addiction too
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Bro what else are we supposed to do? Fatshark hasn't updated their game in, I think, more than 100 days.
@msmf909
5 ай бұрын
Alternative colors for the excel charts will go long way in prolonging my eyesight Amazing video ✨✨
@Reginald-sc9tk
4 ай бұрын
I plan to redesign my sheets.
@copycatcay
5 ай бұрын
I love using laser weapons despite the low damage and this video perfectly highlights why, its a supporting damage type, you cant really "Take care of things" with lasers, but you can most certainly keep enemies at bay, the main benefit being that you can ALWAYS be dealing damage, and from a decent range too, allowing your teammates some peace of mind knowing that the hoards of enemies will never get out of hand while they are retreating or controlling larger threats
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Ya know as I've implemented my own advice on serving as a firebase and shooting all the time I'm really finding some impressive kill totals with this. Its slower but its nonstop. I need to see how it goes but I'm getting 500 kill games where everyone else has 200 kills.
@liljeman
5 ай бұрын
+ the extra ammo you're not using is very welcome for ammo hungry builds
@DMXKonCur
5 ай бұрын
I’ve personally started running the Dagger with my Dominator/GL since the shriekers came out. Helps me take care of them relatively simply.
@Darksiege357
5 ай бұрын
Fun Fact, Laser Cannon can penetrate Hulk Legs, crippling them, both literally and figuratively
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thats cool to know
@biggestenjoyerofthebiggest7796
5 ай бұрын
I wish there was a way to change the colour of each laser weapon's beam either with the customisation thing that pops up while holding r or if they just had different coloured beams out the box bring the scythes,daggers,laser cannons, laser drones and orbital lasers to your nearest nursing spewer patrol/spore spewer and you'll realise war is hell... hella frickin rad
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I realized I should have made that suggestion at the end of my video just after publishing. Its such a cool idea. Thanks for posting it.
@moritztabor1678
5 ай бұрын
These time stamps and all the effort alone deserve a like👍
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I try to make it easy. Not everyone wants the lecture but then some people gotta drive home from work. You get me.
@gigabot3662
5 ай бұрын
You can do the math for overheat pretty easily. Holding reload opens up the plus menu to customize your gun, but ALSO shows exactly how many rounds are left or in this case how many points of heat are left in the sink. So, heat to any amount measure how long it takes to cool 1 heat unit (hu), 5 hu, 20 hu. And now apply to the amount of hu each weapon has. Side note: I think ICE means Interchangeable Cooling Exchanger.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I just forgot about that menu honestly. I think a lot of us did because you cannot see it while firing only when cooling.
@CthulhuBut2FeetTall
5 ай бұрын
Really liked the tactics section :) Turning theory into practice is easier said then done and I think that helps bridge the gap. I definitely will be trying a lasermaxxing run soon! I will say the I think the condensing of information into text format for people to pause and read was a good idea when it was super information dense. I think maybe that would have been a good idea to use for the section on the inconsistencies from your testing? Throwing up a chart or linking a spreadsheet and saying "hey, look at these weird numbers, does anyone have an explanation?" might've helped with brevity. Great content though and enjoyed the watch :)
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked the tactics section! You're right, summarizing the cooling section the same way would have saved time and would have been a good idea. Strange I didn't think of it since I just had done it. Thanks for the feedback.
@wallman117
5 ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned the site misalignment at the moment, I just thought I couldn't aim haha
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Its really jarring sometimes when you have a shot kinda lined up and try to swap to ADS for precision and are way off. Feels awful.
@exoticspoon6117
5 ай бұрын
You and Ryken making laser weapons after both being darktide deep dive is very funny
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
That timing was hilarious, especially since Claysthetics and I ended up collaborating because we also both had the same idea.
@rykenxiv
5 ай бұрын
The Warp connects all Darktide KZitemrs together!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Heya Ryken! Good to hear from you. I watched your video and enjoyed it. Been meaning to leave a comment for the old algo. Something about us DT-Tubers gives us the same taste in gear i guess.
@little_lord_tam
5 ай бұрын
I love to see Datascience beeing more appreciated. I remember a time where people were clowned on for doing this stuff in a game. Solid testing btw, when I tested the weapons I have up on lasers immediatly except for the guard Dog and you changed my mind. I will try them with your advice again
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I have been testing other assault rifles and I think the scythe is worse than I thought but still totally usable. Good technique makes a big difference. I appreciate your kind words on this video.
@awkwardllama0509
5 ай бұрын
Itd be interesting if hot environments provided a damage bonues for heat weapons and fog provided a penalty
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
That would be fun
@TheWileSpice
5 ай бұрын
Loved the longer dive. Think I need to get onto this Laser hype!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Its a pretty good time. Obviously sickle is stronger but I kinda like the scythe.
@kevinuribe318
4 ай бұрын
Freaking amazing and detailed video. I’ve been wanting more channels doing this. Hopefully one day we get another primary lighting based weapon. Love me the lighting build. Me and my friends couldn’t stop making avatar jokes when using the flamethrower and lighting during the beginning of the games release.
@Terlecki777
5 ай бұрын
Springfield Armory gonna send a C&D for their Gripzone 😂
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Glad someone caught the joke.
@STOPPEDINCOLORADO
3 ай бұрын
u really do be doing that super earf science. thx crodie
@user-rv8yv4yh9n
5 ай бұрын
Not having to grenade those vaults when I have the cannon is huge info, you need every grenade you can get for closing bug holes
@UnknownSquid
5 ай бұрын
Also allows you to still open them when running stun grenades. Laser Cannon destroys a lot of smaller random scenery object. You can cut through chain fences with it to make a shortcut (the super earth ones, not the chunkier bot fences sadly), and destroy shrubs and other miscellaneous obstacles that might be obscuring your targets.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I always check whatever weapon I use because it is such a huge benefit.
@charlesbarnes1996
5 ай бұрын
now that i think about it, you can definitely plan around bringing a stalwart in, you made some good points
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
You absolutely can.
@FearThePegasus
5 ай бұрын
Oh you call them onions? My friends and I have just been calling them fart boobs.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Gotta be polite.
@Meoiswa
5 ай бұрын
Laser (or specifically heat) weapons were a missed opportunity to make them into armor melters. Let them do low damage but have "unlimited" armor penetration, with the special effect of softening armor over time so other weapons can get through
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Fully agree my dude
@itsoup455
5 ай бұрын
I think the biggest factors in why these weapons dont feel so great to use, is with how long the ttk's are, when the enemy doesnt take a lot of visual damage from these weapons, it makes the damage you deal seem almost nonexistent. my suggestions would be, adding more visual damage indicators (burns, scarring and melting) when dealing damage, along with increasing damage/per tick or lowering damage but increasing the tick rate, alternatively, implenting a damage buildup mechanic, where base damge is lower, but slowly ramps up while hitting the target (specific bodyparts most likely). you cant have good scifi warfare without equally good laser weapons, but as they are now, they feel significantly underpowered compared to alternatives
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I really feel like improved visuals would be helpful. Another good option for sure is increased tickrate just to help with consistency.
@mcarpen89
5 ай бұрын
Two possible explanations for the inconsistent firing time: 1. Maybe the weapon is still cooling down for a few frames after the UI appears to show that it is fully cooled. This could account for some of the variation. You're not always starting from zero heat. 2. The heat buildup is subject to a very small RNG multiplier. I doubt that heatsink decay would have been programmed into the game without it being expressly mentioned in the weapon description. That's a lot of extra code work
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I'm guessing #1 given some new information. But there could be other factors for sure and its so hard to say without a dev chiming in.
@jamesdayton5712
5 ай бұрын
It would be cool if laser weapons are gonna be really good against illuminates
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I hope their good for something. Right now the sidearm and primary are bad
@superphatcakes
5 ай бұрын
I'm happy more people are embracing the "oops, all lasers!" playstyle. While the new Quasar kinda suffers from similar conditions to the Sickle, it existing with the sheer utility it has solidifies it's place on my personal version of the setup.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I hope to cover the sickle and quasar soon. They're very fun weapons. Probably too strong but whatever. Its pve right?
@superphatcakes
5 ай бұрын
Not quite sure what you mean by it being PvE...
@MrBlbll
5 ай бұрын
30 minute tutorial? Sounds like a dedicated Helldiver selling short the field research
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I do what I can to provide good info, probably too slowly lol
@MrBlbll
5 ай бұрын
One can only go so fast when spreading Managed Democracy and handling special assignments from the Ministry of Truth. Your efforts are appreciated, Helldiver!
@AtZeroDansGames
5 ай бұрын
Amazing, this is great information Great work 🎉
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words, I really do appreciate it.
@dwaffles
5 ай бұрын
The rovers' description and orbital lasers damage and role had me actually cry out in laughter. But regarding feedback. The well-defined timestamps help tremendously in understanding and referring back to individual sections. When comparing two or more weapons, I personally find it useful to see a table/side by side comparisons of their stats. The full frame of a single weapon is great for information density, but an additional frame somewhere comparing say the dagger and the scythe directly would have helped highlight the differences. Unrelated to the video, but something you might be interested in. Helldivers 1 had the LAS-12 Tanto, a one handed laser SMG with a very short range but very high burst damage. HD1 had laser weapons entirely fall off in damage at certain ranges which made it much easier to balance and have additional laser weapons. Something which HD2 did not carry over.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Very glad I had you laughing. Good idea on direct comparisons. I'll do that. Very interesting on the HD1 stuff. Hopefully we will see some improvements to lasers in future patches.
@tzalmavet8400
5 ай бұрын
This is a really great video. I really wanted these weapons to be good because I found them so cool. I was so happy when they buffed the laser cannon it is now my favorite anti-armor weapon for Bots with how quickly it kills turrets, tanks, and Hulks
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Hopefully we see some improvements to the scythe and dagger!
@antant06
5 ай бұрын
Now that the arc thrower has been bugged, I’ve become a huge fan of the sickle and laser cannon combo. You can easily take down 6- 9 hunters per sickle battery, swap to the cannon to take out any medium armored bugs and then use a stun grenade and airstrikes or hell bombs to take out chargers and bile titans. The laser cannon is also great against a charger back leg. Then you just kite and swap between the two and you can take on a whole terminid army.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thats what I like about this build. Its not the fastest or most powerful but it can handle anything and thus is the most gameplay complete
@zombieboss5178
5 ай бұрын
16:30 amazing reference such a good game
@huy99454
5 ай бұрын
Awesome job! I'm sure a lot of helldivers needs these kind of details and summary of our weapons to be able to spread Democracy more efficiently! I'll be sure to let Command know about your dedication and service! :D
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! My time for Super Earth!
@sXMrSnapzZ
5 ай бұрын
Been rocking the laser cannon all of last week, loving its versatility
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Me too! Its sound design is stellar too
@BalgaBear
3 ай бұрын
Orbital Laser, Laser cannon, LAS-5 Scythe, LAS-7 Dagger, "Guard Dog" Rover, Shield Generator Pack. You have your love of laser build.
@Reginald-sc9tk
3 ай бұрын
Why would you run shield and guard dog?
@BalgaBear
3 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Shield Generator is for a friend! Wish they had more laser oriented stratagems, a laser turret would be pretty dang cool.
@Mobstupidity
5 ай бұрын
it is worth mentioning the scythe is really effective for nipping off bug legs which actually seems to make it easier to manage hordes as well as the the beefier chaff enemies. since they take a lot of damage from each leg removal and does stagger/ stun them for a second or two. so i like strafeing to the sides and aim for the leg/body of the closest. doubly effective when paired with a rover.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Its certainly not bad at this and it can be worth doing but I find that I get the most value out of simply killing them with headshots which gives lower TTK
@chaffychaffinch
5 ай бұрын
Another great tutorial! It's amazing how much information and stats about things are hidden or just plain wrong, like the heat build-up mechanic. I'm hoping the devs provide a much better system for displaying the true potential of these weapons in-game because right now you would never know unless you went and watched videos like these or did all of this painstaking experimentation yourself. You're doing truly democratic work here Reg, thank you!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thanks again! I do really appreciate you stopping by again. I was kinda surprised too. It feels like more of this could be represented to the player and that would be a good thing.
@TheHaven923
5 ай бұрын
For the variance in fire time, it could be that the damage ticks are tied to the server tick rate so performance fluctuations impact dps/heat buildup.
@___Hermitage
5 ай бұрын
Super informative, thank you for putting this together
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I am very pleased that you found it helpful.
@lukemorris261
5 ай бұрын
Great video overall but your diagram was hands down the best part 😂 not only was it actually good, useful info for a lot of players it had me dying!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thank you! That was my goal and im happy it worked!
@Felaeris
5 ай бұрын
Hello again! You can actually kill a Bile Titan using only the Las-98. Aim for the lower abdomen. For whatever reason, it has enough pen to do damage. The downside? Its hard to hit, requires dancing under the Titan, and still takes around a full minute of sustained fire or something. (I died multiple times once I realized the laser wasn't getting deflected.) Success will cut the whole backside off the Titan.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
that is super cool and great to know. Now that I do know it I will have to give it a try some time. Thanks for the rough TTK, that is very informative.
@Sharsis8
5 ай бұрын
I feel like the scythe dog should be what our base scythe should actually be working as intended, but isn't. It makes no sense how the same gun literally strapped to a drone is just so good against the chaff enemies, but when you use it yourself, you'll have more DPS hurling insults at them it feels like
@cashcrop_
5 ай бұрын
Fantastic. I now know everything about beam weapons and I didn't have to test it myself. ¡Muchas gracias!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Happy to have done it. Happy its done.
@xenomorph383
5 ай бұрын
As a level 50 I found this pretty insightful, definitely doing only lasers my next mission
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I hope you had fun with that mission!
@katana7king
4 ай бұрын
I cant recall if it was mentioned in the video, but another great feature of the HLC is its ability to kill shrieker nests at massive range. As long as you're within 200m it works. Takes about 75 percent of a cell per nest
@Reginald-sc9tk
4 ай бұрын
I had the range wrong but yes, its awesome right?
@Prometheus-ns6cm
5 ай бұрын
Yea I always run laser cannon. Love it. It’s great I mean it can struggle against chargers and bike titans, but if you bring sickle, laser cannon, guard dog, you can use your other two spots for like 500 kg bomb or orbital rail cannon and it’s not an issue at all. I always have the most kills and do a great job at holding the line, and if your ever in a spot where your orbitals aren’t ready the laser cannon will destroy the green part of the bile titan pretty quick which makes it unable to vomit at you. And with the rover you can just stay mobile until one of them is ready and the bike titans usually go down pretty quick especially if you get a little help form teammates. Generally you just wanna do a really good job at keeping the swarm down, which you can do cuz you can literally fire non stop by switching back and forth from the laser cannon to the sickle or whatever it is your running. I like the sickle cuz it had a little bit of stagger and helps with the little jumpy fuckers get up close. Great and fun way to play. Not too OP but fun as hell
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I fully agree. I have had very similar experiences at this point.
@Prometheus-ns6cm
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tkI kinda had another thought. I wanna be able to have custom laser color options. I want a green laser. Or pink. Or blue. Maybe even like a black lightsaber type thing
@GunslingerDragon
5 ай бұрын
Laser cannon is also great against bot gunships, which may not have been present yet at time of testing. It struggles as noted against berserkers (dual chainsaw bruisers), but gunships drop in just a few seconds of shining your shoulder-fired flashlight at them.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Thats fabulous news because I still love the Laser Cannon.
@StormierNik
5 ай бұрын
I have an idea of what's going on with the strange behavior. It goes back to the devs mentioning that there's a string of hidden stats on all the weapons that aren't listed anywhere that people don't know about. Whatever is the case with heat sinks and cooldown times, there's most likely some hidden value that randomizes by a short amount of time. That's the only explainable possibility.
@ParkAir33
5 ай бұрын
I think it would be cool if they implemented some kinda target heat mechanic to make the damage of the lasers a bit better without just plainly buffing them. Keep the damage the same, which is a bit underwhelming, but if you can manage to hold onto a specific area on the enemy for a consistent and constant time period, then your damage will increase as a function of how much you've been able to keep the laser on target. I think the laser guns are cool and I want them to be more viable lol.
@Deadkeinen
5 ай бұрын
"maybe one of these days. Honestly if I can ever get done with this laser video I might just retire" This sentence makes a lot more sense now, great video and very helpful since I enjoy running full Dubstep Laser setup myself xD
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
This was just a beast to work through. Normally my videos come together pretty smoothly but this was like pulling teeth. Happy you liked it!
@____-sj5vi
5 ай бұрын
honestly my favorite part about the laser only load out is you can just hold down left click on the laser cannon, then once it overheats switch to the scythe, hold down left click, and by the time that overheats, the laser cannon is fully cooled down
@Jvcdark09
5 ай бұрын
lmfao at the diver at 17:37 looking like they bonked against the screen
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Only the best footage i can muster
@rohan0724
5 ай бұрын
Loving the laser cannon, since the ARC weapons are causing crashes, it's become my go 2 support weapon choice. I was a little worried since I play on Helldive (9), but your follow up TTK on Bile Titans after they've experienced 1 Orbital Railcannon Strike is some 6-8 seconds & it's an excellent choice for dealing with the Bile Spewer swarms. Jumpjetting around to reposition on the bio-artillery and absolutely annihilating them from basically any range is so damn satisfying, as long as I keep up with where they're spawning in, we almost never have to deal with the dreaded 18 shot acid barrage!
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I also mostly play on 7 or 9 but usually with a pre-made so I usually haven't had cause to worry about bile titans if I can't kill them. I will say there does seem to be some tech for titans im still working out in line with what you have suggested here so I appreciate you detailing your information.
@imnotyourhat
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing all this work. Feels good to hear someone confirm I'm not just misunderstanding something when it comes to this game.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I'm very pleased to be able to present all this hard work and I hope it helps other people have more fun when playing. I think intuition usually forms a good basis for understanding, 9/10 when I do big research work like this I find out that intuition was right. Sounds like that was the case here.
@fernando47180
5 ай бұрын
24:50 I didnt know anihilators had a rear heat sink! Anatomy is such a wonderful thing.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
I will say I love that about this game. So many possible targets. Ways to get better that are subtle. Not just headshots.
@fernando47180
5 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk yep, definitely true. We had different armor values depending on your angle and hitzone in Helldivers 1, but nothing as detailed as this. Also, on second thought, I guess anatomy wouldn't really be the word, but hey it works.
@Andrew-es9yt
5 ай бұрын
For the strange behavior, I've noticed a frequently the heat cap will look like it's maxed out and the gun will react like it overheated minus the heatsink ejection, but if you cease firing it will cool down like normal. I think the indicators are just different than when the heatsink actually pops out.
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
That seems very plausible. Though I don't think it explains the variability in times for burnouts
@MrSlendykinsSockman
5 ай бұрын
I love the laser weapons, I run the scythe and lascannon against bots all the time, only things i'd mention is that the laser cannon kills devastators anywhere on their body since it penetrates armor, also you can neuter hulks by blasting their arms off, very handy if you see a scorcher coming and can't hit that faceplate.
@MisterT.2962
5 ай бұрын
the only reason I can think of with the different cooldowntimes is that even if you dont destroy the heatsink, it still takes some damage. only explanation I got, but thank you for sharing your wisdom of the lasers
@Reginald-sc9tk
5 ай бұрын
Yeah it could really be human error too but I just don't know
@Shywer
5 ай бұрын
Eggcellent! Bugs and Automatons hate this information!
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