Ugh is right. Short violinists with short necks don't need much padding. People taller than Heifetz and Joeseph Fuchs who both about 5'1" don't have space for a pad. Stern would fuss at orchestral violinists and then stuff a big pad under his shirt. He was 5'6". Aaron Rosand was quite short. Ricci was short. Pictures of Joseph Szigiti playing clearly show a big pad under his shirt. Carl Flesch had the most sensible point of view: measure the distance between the collar bone and the jaw, Compare it to the heigth of the violin and chinrest. The difference is how much you will either have to raise your shoulder or fill in with a pad of some kind. Don't pretend to know what it's like for your students if they are 6 inches or a foot taller than you are. I want to know how many violinists have been ruined and injured by this complete lack of insight and empathy. Easily many thousands.
@suedavis3525
Жыл бұрын
Great violinists who do use shoulder rests: Vengerov, Hahn, Benedetti, Bell, Jansen, and no doubt others. Playing without a shoulder rest may be the ideal, unfortunately it just doesn't work for everyone.
@gkroll
3 жыл бұрын
Hilary Hahn uses a shoulder rest!
@NaydzArt
Old school thinking, almost every contemporary violinist is using a shoulder rest.
@hassansculpt__9521
Жыл бұрын
First we as violinist should realize that as beautiful as the look and sound of a violin might be , it is still the worst ergonomically designed musical instrument till date ,which later led into various inventions such as the Chinrest, Shoulder rest , tailpiece fine-tuners , geared pegs e.t.c, all this as enabled great players of today to do what older masters would have thought impossible with a violin such as dancing and playing simultaneously. what he said about old masters not entirely true for example lseac stern himself claimed to have used foam padding tucked underneath his jacket before playing which people don't see, David Oistrakh had a Cremona sponge-like padding attached underneath his violin . This shows that the most ergonomically stable way to hold the violin without necessarily touching is to use a shoulder rest or an hybrid of it.
@concertmasterntl
2 жыл бұрын
Ugh. Those violinists didn’t use shoulder rests because they weren’t available at the time!! Virtually every player now uses a shoulder rest of some kind, including Zukerman and many others who actually grew up without them. They are helpful for most people.
@GiardinoStrings
People debating and doubting the words or one of the best violinist and teacher of the 20th century who is mentioning the very best players in the world ever! 😂
@DivaDeb1234
3 жыл бұрын
Many great violinists use shoulder rest . Hilary Hahn for one.
@rickyanthony
You can compress a lot of nerves and freeze a lot of elbow by having your elbow so far inwards. Not a natural position or healthy for any hand. Terrible if you already have a job using computers or play piano too.
@guilhermeviolin7825
3 жыл бұрын
OMG !!! Thanks so much for this video! Do you have more videos like this with Mr. Rosand ?
@michaelbarbour1744
3 жыл бұрын
Always loved him - a great artist and a great person - continues to inspire me.
@reer5340
wow, this is one of the best explanations I found (been watching a few videos on the subject... 🙂 )
@HenJack-vl5cb
3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful-Thank you!
@Firenmage433
2 жыл бұрын
More contemporary, Hadelich and Nathan Melzter. I also came to this conclusion and started using a pad rather than a shoulder rest.
@stephanebelizaire3627
Very Instructive, Bravo !
@musicfirst5020
Жыл бұрын
I've play with and without a shoulder rest. Overall, I prefer the sound without a shoulder rest, the sound is more "natural" and interesting in my opinion. Shoulder rests tend to produce a more uniform, less natural, sound where it is more difficult to tell violinists apart. Doesn't mean you can't produce a beautiful sound with shoulder rest, or course. But, I do go back in forth.
@hanapiyahaliofficial24
Yes indeed.. that's why iam feel more enjoy without shouldrest..❤
@Yestyn2084
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, there used to be a video from this session with Rosand taking about vibrato and glisandi but it is now private. I was wondering if you happen to have access to that segment (I don't know if you originally uploaded it). If you do I would genuinely appreciate being able to watch it again.
@paaz7
3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what is the chin rest model he uses?
@xavierviolin
2 жыл бұрын
Could someone please clarify what he is meaning by 'aligning the elbow for the ideal fingertip position'?
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