Who wants to buy a Digital Bolex now? ============================= 💭Join our Discord Channel💬 ► discord.gg/3aeNPU7GHu 🐦Twitter ► twitter.com/frame_voyager 📷Instagram ► instagram.com/framevoyager/ 🎵TikTok ► www.tiktok.com/@framevoyager Join our KZitem channel 📺 ►kzitem.info/rock/mXGDFnFh95WlZjhwmA5aeQjoin =============================
@KK4CNM
2 жыл бұрын
Do I want to buy it? YES! Could I actually afford it? Probably not. What a cool project.
@laumeconroy4761
2 жыл бұрын
I wanted one then and STILL do!
@cubax26
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please bring them back!!!
@cineffect
2 жыл бұрын
I am saving for it, instead of a new car 😉
@tanzkatzen
2 жыл бұрын
@@cineffect What are they going for these days? My brother just gave me one to try out, hardly used (1project) with grip, three silver Bolex Kish lenses, a Zeiss Tevidon 35, and the leather bag.. pretty snazzy..I've updated it to the latest firmware I could find. but it's a bit sluggish in use although better than when I first turned it on. He might let it go as there are easier tools available these days.
@ThatBrendonGuy
2 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of this Joe fella until now, but now I've got massive respect for him and I hope we haven't seen the last of his contributions to filmmaking...
@TheInsideoftheBox
2 жыл бұрын
He's very active in shooting with the Sigma FP and sharing his work on various FP pages on Facebook.
@indierent7168
2 жыл бұрын
He could have been the Steve Jobs of Filmmaking Cameras
@dextrodemon
2 жыл бұрын
he does have a nice wig
@theme7363
2 жыл бұрын
i submit. who’s joe?
@m.f.3347
2 жыл бұрын
@@theme7363 joe mother
@ankitjojha
2 жыл бұрын
Someone give Joe a hug. He’s such a top dude for going with his gut and actually managing to make a spellbinding product that ACTUALLY emulated a filmic texture on camera. Holy shit.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
haha for real! Loved the textured look from the camera
@ankitjojha
2 жыл бұрын
@@FrameVoyager man, if someone can convince him to bring back that Bolex with slightly updated specs and affordability I would probably get it so bad my god.
@toneohm
Жыл бұрын
@@ankitjojha 10 years have gone by.. nothing looks as authentic.. why can't they apply that sensor and try again??
@ankitjojha
Жыл бұрын
@@toneohm I swear the closest any camera came was the original BMPCC
@GringoXalapeno
Жыл бұрын
@@toneohm cus it’s expensive and it’s a niche market but who knows
@Mananetwork
2 жыл бұрын
I purchased this camera just after the kickstarter. It was a little wild putting the funds down to purchase this camera but it was one of the few cameras that shot in cDNG (raw) that wasn't 15k+. It was a bumpy road for the first few firmware updates put until the last two. Beautifully soft image quality, global shutter, amazing XLR quality and lots of high quality 16mm lenses to play with. I loved the camera!
@prolost
2 жыл бұрын
As one of the early filmmaking bloggers who picked up on the Digital Bolex story with a mix of skepticism and hope, I’ll say again what I said when Joe and Elle delivered their first D16s to delighted backers: “Holy crap, you made a camera.”
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 for real though! I can totally understand the skepticism of it all.
@asimpletune
2 жыл бұрын
Somebody get this guy a camera company. Thanks for making this! Your best episode yet.
@noopy4085
Жыл бұрын
Don't
@rmediaglobal
Жыл бұрын
word
@JBTriple8
9 ай бұрын
why didnt he sell his camera to film schools
@novelezra
2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this camera or this story but all I can think about now is hoping that Joe looks past the corporate greed and tries again. He did what million dollar camera companies seemingly struggle to do with all their money. Make magic.
@TECH3_
2 жыл бұрын
that footage really looked like magic
@drewnoirfilmz
2 жыл бұрын
Holy fricken crap!! I worked with Joe in the mid 2000’s! We worked on a film together! I remember him using an old 16mm (I think it was an Arri) he was constantly fixing that thing. I had no idea he was involved with this!
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Haha yep! Cool coincidence!
@Jmccabe1111
Жыл бұрын
Joe taught me what shutter angle was as I sat in his apartment after buying my first Digital camera the D16. I'll never forget that Joe. You're the best man!!
@guobadia53156
2 жыл бұрын
Hugged my D16 the entire way through ;-;. It's a truly precious camera.
@RonStratton
2 жыл бұрын
Joe is a great guy who I consider a friend, I proudly use my 2TB Bolex to this day! It’s a fantastic camera and a cherished tool in my collection.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
I want one now too 😭 would be such a cool camera to pull out
@photography_night_school
2 жыл бұрын
Had one two, one of the first bakers) Such nice camera. And great story. Sadly, I sold my couple years ago. Regretting ever since))
@Cheecken
2 жыл бұрын
Great episode! I loved the personal angle in this one and Joseph seems to be a smart and well meaning guy. I hope he can surprise us with another nice indie camera some time in the future 😁
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yeah, I'd be very interested to see another camera from in him in the future.
@MrZilminator
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Joe could team up with Blackmagic to help make a groundbreaking Box Style camera. 🤔😋
@romana8203
2 жыл бұрын
Watching this with my Digital Bolex right beside me on my desk. I have many camera options these days including a trusty Alexa, URSA 12k and all kinds of new gadgets. But you know what... the D16 to this very day produces the goddamn richest, most beautiful colors out there. Dynamic range is poor, sensitivity is poor, many aspects to the day to day utility of using the camera are... poor. But when I shoot that thing with native Super 16 lenses like the super speeds, it produces the most film-like image you could ever hope to get from a digital sensor. It's not a camera for everything but when you have the budget and time to work around it's shortcomings, the payoff is huge. I'll never sell mine.
@GS-vb3zn
2 жыл бұрын
So how do you correct the dreaded Digital Bolex red shift in post? Or are you one of the owners who don't see it as a problem or don't see it at all (which was always inexplicable to me) or look at it as an enhancement that makes it look like vintage Kodak movie film stock? Legitimately asking because back in the day in the Personal View forum there was a lot of back and forth over this problem.
@tears2040
2 жыл бұрын
@@GS-vb3zn Every single camera will have a minus , you work around that and bring your most important content which is your *idea. A simple shift in color, moire , etc doesn’t stop creators intent or ultimate vision which 9 out of 10 people viewing your content won’t even notice………
@romana8203
Жыл бұрын
@@GS-vb3zn Just saw this sorry. That issue does not exist today. But, I know what you're talking about. When the camera was released there was no accurate way to take its log profile into REC709 color space. NLE's and Resolve improperly displayed colors in a way where everything was a magenta mess. These days though? You can accurate display and manipulate the log footage in ACES color space, you can convert it to ARRI log accurately and use all the many LUTs available for the Alexa, and you can use a very powerful beautiful REC709 LUT created by the community to instantly get proper color for quick work
@GS-vb3zn
Жыл бұрын
@@romana8203 Thanks for the answer. The red shift issue was what held me back from actually purchasing the DB. However, when the Monochrome DB came out I wanted to buy two of the units. I contacted Joe telling him I’d buy two immediately. He never got back to me after repeated attempts.
@philipbloom
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I didn’t realise I sold him all his cameras. I’ve still got mine. Now you just need to spell my name correctly! 😀
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
I used 2 "L"s didn't I? 😩 Funny enough I spelled it correctly in the Fran 8k video 😅
@philipbloom
2 жыл бұрын
@@FrameVoyager be great if you could add a credit in the description with a link to my channel...and yes, you used two Ls when I only have one.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
@@philipbloom will do! Apologies for not having already done that
@MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing episode, recently found this series and am hooked. This episode in particular was interesting because I remember when the kickstarter went up over a decade ago. One thing this series has shown me too is that the industry should’ve stuck with CCD sensors at the high-end, those images are so beautiful.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
haha glad we got you hooked! Been a fascinating series to make and glad there is a such a large audience for it!
@joshuabrazile
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work all round. I remember seeing these cameras here and there, but I didn't know anything about them. The footage from them is just stunning and it's criminal that they aren't still being made. Such an amazing story.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! And yeah, the fact was it was successful and probably could still be running today
@erick-gd7wo
Жыл бұрын
This is the most analog looking picture from any digital camera. I love the colors.
@Fredrik_Ekholm
Жыл бұрын
The digital Bolex was and still is one of my favorite cameras of all time! Big respect to Joe and the team behind it. So sad how it ended 😢
@jasonscott526
2 жыл бұрын
Delighted to hear the family Bolex member wasn't immediately rushing out to cash in on the name and took it seriously. Kudos.
@morkovija
2 жыл бұрын
Ok I was not expecting a 30 minute video to be captivating enough to keep me glued for the whole thing. Thank you for making this
@KirtFitzpatrick
Жыл бұрын
I just now realized that was a 30 minute video.
@guaposneeze
2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, I've met Elle a few times. (Never met Joe, AFAIK.) We aren't besties or anything, but I've met her and talked to her. She's legit. If Vitaly from "Personal View" told me the sky was blue and Elle told me the sky was green, I'd honestly think the sky was green. She generally knows what she's talking about. Vitaly, OTOH, has always been a bit inclined to conspiracy theory nonsense. If you look at his website in the last few years, it is less about hacking color profiles on the GH1, and more about Covid vaccines, climate change conspiracies, and WWIII. He's one step away from full on paranoid delusions like thinking the government is using the radio to send secret messages to his teeth.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Yeah, stuff like this is hard to be able to get everyone's perspective on. But she seemed like what you said in some of the videos I saw her in. And yeah, Vitaly is something else 😂 he already shared this video
@vipadventure
2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to buy a used one for awhile now but they're so expensive :( Love the colours of the footage.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, would love to get my hands on one too! Would be a great travel camera just with that interesting image it puts out
@ecmjr
2 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! I like this episode! I'm so sad that Joe ended up leaving the company and the camera not being sold mainstream anymore. It really shows the ugly side of business.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
The camera business is a very ugly business 😅😅😅
@xandersnyder7214
Жыл бұрын
I love this video series, normally I am captivated by the new innovations and then the abandonment (usually due to the hubris of the company or creator). But this one felt like a gut punch, Joe had a fantastic vision for the Digital Bolex, and by all accounts did it the right way by doing everything above board in the open. Only to have an investor who just didn't see the his vision. You could hear his passion, and pain, I just wanted to give him a hug at the end! And the example footage you included looked fantastic, the Digital Bolex had such a warm, vibrant, and unique quality. It didn't have the antiseptic feel that a lot of modern sensors have now. I am new on my journey into filming, but this was something truly unique and special and I hope that Joe eventually comes out with something new in the future.
@Made_by_Matthew
2 жыл бұрын
Out of all the cameras and camera companies in this series this one should have been a success. There's no reason other than greed and mismanagement that we haven't seen a db16-2 or Db16-3 by now. What a shame
@HTOP1982
Жыл бұрын
I always loved the fact that these guys built a 2K CCD camera when everyone else was running towards the inferior CMOS. I *almost* ordered one. I should have ordered one.
@pilsplease7561
Жыл бұрын
CMOS is still inferior CMOS is noisier, has a slow readout, CCD is instant as the entire sensor is read at once, and CCD has superior sharpness and color accuracy. Old Nikons with a CCD sensor produce images better than new CMOS nikons with like 10X the MP
@lukelehner9165
2 жыл бұрын
Sean Price Williams (the DP of The Safdie Brothers movies pre-Uncut Gems, all of Alex Ross Perry's movies, and a few Abel Ferrara movies) used the Digital Bolex for two of his most recently shot movies, Project Space 13 (2021) and Zeros and ones (2021) as a cheap alternative to shooting on film when the production didn't have the budget for it. It's one of my white whale cameras
@nessriden4512
2 жыл бұрын
BEST episode yet! Love that you were able to speak to the creator of this, cool to hear some of the inside story!
@nessriden4512
2 жыл бұрын
Also the footage from the camera is maybe my favourite from any digital camera
@Dncyx
2 жыл бұрын
I like to say this is a great piece of documentary. Unlike the hollywood blockbusters of today, Joe's story is one filled with passion and heart. It's a shame it didn't have a happy ending
@cineffect
2 жыл бұрын
Love the color science of the 3CCD sensor, wish they would bring it back.
@pilsplease7561
Жыл бұрын
CCD sensors are cleaner by nature than any CMOS sensor and have way faster read out speeds, they take all the sensor in 1 go, and have no rolling shutter, and vastly better colors. A fun fact is that CMOS is older than CCD and that CMOS existed was found to be inferior, they invented CCD Used it for years but it was expensive and technologically superior and then the industry moved back to CMOS for the cost savings its cheaper to make and inferior and has a lot of cons that CCD doesnt have.
@TheEvox81
2 жыл бұрын
Well... This video was certainly a pleasant surprise, as KZitem autoplay black holes tend to go. I had never heard of this camera or the story of it.. But I'm certainly glad that I do now.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! Trying to make content about cameras and the industry fun!
@bobmorr2892
2 жыл бұрын
Just get an adapter and some 16 mm camera lenses for your Canon EOS M Etc. And install magic lantern save yourself $10,000. And or make some software with a filter that has the same look. Or make a glass filter for your lens that mimics the 16mm look and attach it to a manual focus lens and then put it on your Canon EOS M. So with some trial and error for 200 bucks you could probably get pretty close to the look. The lens or the film or sensor and software that determine the end look. What it's held in the body of the camera is irrelevant.
@johnorozco9332
2 жыл бұрын
Man! I was eager to watch this episode! I actually came across this camera some years ago and I always wonder about it. Greetings !!
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty cool story! Really interesting insights into what it's like to build a camera
@KRAFTWERK2K6
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this thing was announced and i was very interested in it. The Sensor here really was the crucial part because CCDs just work so much better than CMOS for moving images. This is also what i realized when i compared my SD camcorders to my HD camcorders. The way image sensors are read-out really DOES affect the picture aesthetic and how the light paints it on pixels. And i still really wish i had this Camera because it has everything i'd ever need from a digital movie camera. Except maybe the resolution part. But hey.... do you REALLY need 4K or 8K? However i really hated that it had absolutely no viewfinder at all. Unlike the Ikonoscop A-Cam DII 16mm which was announced around the same time i think.
@zippymufo9765
Жыл бұрын
Those Ikonoskops had a beautiful image as well.
@ivaks2586
2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating episode, loved every second of it! Big props to Joe for coming on, it's amazing to get first hand insight into the production and decisions that were made.
@davidmichael2011
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I am truly amazed of what he was able to accomplish. I remember hearing about this camera. I never gave it much thought other than its name. I've shot with film Bolex's before may moons ago and really like them. I even bought 2. But I remember hearing that this wasn't actually from Bolex. Now after seeing this Abandoned episode I am totally amazed. I would love to get a hold of one. Some of the footage here really does look nostalgic like from a 1970's 16mm film. It's too bad that he was not compatible with his investor, who knows what else they could've accomplished. This sounds similar to the Steve Jobs and Apple situation with John Sculley. Well hopefully Joseph Rubinstein catches a second wind because he definitely shouldn't call a wrap on developing his vision for a camera or anything else for that matter. Awesome episode!!!
@vinarkmp
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode. As a film maker I remember being at SCAD when this camera was almost released (2012). I think the BMPCC 4k and 6k picked up where this camera left off.
@ludovicavice3496
2 жыл бұрын
Damn....what a beauty, I saw it while it was released and at that time I was more into animation and price was already insane but not as insane as video cameras of it's time haha. Thanks a lot for time and research put into this..I am sure the price is going to go even crazier now 🤯
@mitchgross592
2 жыл бұрын
No offense, but no one should do a single interview and take that person’s view as gospel as to what did or did not occur. This is Joe’s version of the story but I know for a fact that others do not share it. And to tell the story of Digital Bolex without ever even mentioning Elle Schneider - who is seen throughout the footage you show but never even identified - illustrates that this is not an accurate representation of what went down at Digital Bolex. Joe suffers from Founders Syndrome, which is why many people who start a company are not the same ones who can successfully run it over time.
@NadirNovelties
2 жыл бұрын
This. The simple narrative of "GENIUS makes camera which everyone loves but then the money people destroy his vision" is pleasing, but far from accurate. I think it's great that they finally got a camera out, and they have a solid base of fans who appreciate it. Ultimately that's all that really matters, and everyone involved should be proud. But the road was a wee bit rockier than this video lets on, and there were a lot of other people involved who feel VERY differently about how this all went down.
@noopy4085
Жыл бұрын
I think this is spot on!
@noopy4085
Жыл бұрын
@@NadirNovelties I have no info or know about what happened internally but what you are saying is not hard for me to believe! The way Joe is I can see how it could end up a potential sh**-show! Its funny reading the comments and there are lots of positive ones! But I think the people who were in from the start got to see all sides! Also interesting to see Joe come in and try and defend some of the "bad comments" is a post further up by 'James DeRuvo' where Joe replies directly to him saying "I didn't personally ever ban or remove any user or comments" ....Really Joe!? Cos you banned me and remove me from the community that was the only point of access to the camera, info, repair etc... so safe to say this man is a blatant LIAR! ....so what else is hi lying about then?
@toneohm
Жыл бұрын
I was in my junior year at Temple University when that Kickerstarter went up... When I saw that test footage of that little girl reading the book, I was blown away... I always wondered what happened to this D16 project.. I would love to have a Digital Bolex... To this day.. nothing looks more realistic to film.. I would love the get that grainy old 16mm film stock look like this camera offered.. It kills me that it isn't around.. Why hasn't it been tried again yet?? Does anything else give such a film look today?
@pastafingers
2 жыл бұрын
Is this a low light camera? Dead pb jokes aside, great video, as usual, probably my favorite one of the series!
@mygorgeousmedia
2 жыл бұрын
This company deserves high praises! 🙌🏾🙏🏽💯
@joelmulder
Жыл бұрын
I love this kind of formfactor, I wish more manufacturers would play with more different designs.
@robertolelli8809
8 ай бұрын
INCREDIBLE... I live in Italy about 100 Km from Torino and I discovered that, a film rental company there, has one D16 I could rent! It costs 120 Euro a day without lenses. That one has a PL mount. So, no problem fo lenses.
@tgrey_shift..mp334
2 жыл бұрын
Guys we need to make this technology more known. Tell this to everyone. Get people to know the creator of this. This is too beautiful and revolutionary to be lost to history.
@JonathanBondu
Жыл бұрын
Joe is a genius. we need that guy to make cameras for the world. That story makes me so sad. it's a camera i wish i could have used.
@Deathbynature89
2 жыл бұрын
This is the first camera I thought of when you started doing the abandoned camera series. I remember Indie Mogul doing coverage on this like eight years ago.
@benmcreynolds8581
2 жыл бұрын
We need this camera to come back!!! We need more creative products like THIS!!! PLEASE!!!
@davelonghi8229
2 жыл бұрын
Where is this Vitaly Kiselev and why isn't he working on a gh5 hack?😂
@ledheavy26
2 жыл бұрын
I could only imagine what that would be like given my experience with my hacked gh2, going from 20ish Mbps to around 120ish Mbps was really noticeable.
@davelonghi8229
2 жыл бұрын
@@ledheavy26 Also the fact that when the gh5 came out Lumix CEO said that the camera couldn't shoot past 4k and apperently they were wrong considering it can shoot 6k 10bit 422 HLG All-I INTERNALLY
@AuroraAtAngelsTen
2 жыл бұрын
I worked at an entertainment camera startup recently and this is just so beautifully done. The powerful musical sequences just brought me to tears thinking about how Joe and crew succeeded, and how hard it was to try to achieve even a small slice of that.
@MrZilminator
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man! Such a fantastic video, Joseph has my respect 🙏🏽 It’s devastating he had his dreams, and all that hard work, leveraged from him. Thank you @FrameVoyager for yet another amazing camera documentary. 👏🏼😀🙏🏽🙏🏽
@JP-qq2wy
2 жыл бұрын
This camera is one of those camera that I want to have it.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@Standbackforscience
2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that in 2022 we still don't have a camera that has this look. Everything today is overpriced hard digital crap. What a legend.
@that_is_so_meta
Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the prototypes that Kurt Lancaster had in his office at our school back in the day. I never got to shoot with it during my time at NAU but I think they acquired a few later on.
@GregCoonrod
2 жыл бұрын
The quality of this video is what got me to subscribe to your channel. Great work!
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it!
@robertbrown4563
2 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video!!!!! Well done!! I absolutely would have loved to own one of these gems. Great work I love these videos!!! Can’t wait to see what’s next.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it! Glad everyone is enjoying the content!
@FilmSpook
11 ай бұрын
👍🏾👍🏾AMAZING DOCUMENTARY, Many Thanks to you and Joe Rubinstein! You bros are Awesome. Cheers
@laumeconroy4761
2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited for this camera! Barely missed the kickstarter and kept hoping i’d be able to get one. Just re-checked the kickstarter about a year ago in hopes there would be another update. I love the image that came out of this camera, one of the most filmic images I’ve ever seen from digital.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had gotten in on it too 😭
@Victor-Rojas
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool that you were able to interview the founder. Love the image out of that camera.
@JKHFilms
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a bit premature since not enough time has passed, or for the fact that it's an analog camera, but I think it would be interesting to see an episode on abandoned cameras regarding the Kodak Super 8mm camera. I feel like there's not been enough information released regarding this camera, and it would be great to see if you'd be able to do an in depth breakdown as to what happened/is happening with it
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure! That one is on the list
@pinmag
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@JonPais
Жыл бұрын
At the height of the pandemic, Vitaliy Kiselev claimed KZitemrs were growing beards at the behest of their sponsors, endangering public health. He’s special!
@benmcnights1763
2 жыл бұрын
I love this series, what am I missing here? He didn’t want to sell at B&H? That doesn’t sound like a deal breaker, and why would you need any marketing on B&H side? The cameras sold themselves.Sounds like there’s more to the story. I thought the CCD went out of production and that’s why they couldn’t go on?
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
It was more of that the camera was not originally made for that. It was made to sell to film schools and now best buy and b&h. They sold to B&H and eventually B&H just dropped them. Tbh, the market research on where to sell the camera was solid.
@Magmafire
2 жыл бұрын
This is the best episode of the Abandoned Camera series.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@matthewneiman
2 жыл бұрын
The image from my X-T4 is absolutely gorgeous, sharp, and completely clean up to 2000 iso, but the gosh darn rolling shutter is that one remnant manufacturers of consumer level CMOS video cameras seem unwilling to address. it completely changes the feel of the image every time the camera is moved, and for the work that I do I would much prefer a softer image from a universal shutter to a super sharp and sensitive, but wobbly CMOS. IBIS helps mitigate the CMOS wobble a bit but takes so much of the handheld character away from the image. It's the last vestige of the 'film look' that so many modern cameras still just don't have. I've been thinking about trying to pick up an old Digital Bolex for a while for this very reason.
@C.I...
2 жыл бұрын
Global shutter is criminally underrated as a feature. It's insane how limiting a rolling shutter is to the creation of moving images - and that's the key point, because what is the point of owning a camera whose job is to capture movement, but forces you to avoid certain kind of movement? Whip pans and zooms and other quick dynamic movements are now avoided by so many, simply because they look awful with rolling shutter. Ditto with hard mounting the camera onto moving objects like cars, because vibrations make the image become a warped wobbly mess. A whole gimbal industry has bloomed due to the need for complete steadiness at all times. Imagine if an audio recorder recorded the sound one frequency at a time with a delay - nobody would put up with that. The Blackmagic Production Camera 4K, and the older 2K one also have a global shutter. I just wish they had their controls on buttons/dials instead of a touch screen.
@petersuvara
2 жыл бұрын
Some incredibly amazing content on this channel. Wow! Great work.
@benmcreynolds8581
2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I'd love one of these camera's. Holy cow. How have I not heard of this thing!
@BOBMAN1980
2 жыл бұрын
I recall being skeptical, even cynical about this camera when I first learned about. I was too into film as a/the medium to think of anything digital as being worth a damn. I was so wrong. Everything about this--the guy, his camera, the story, and the images the camera produces--is pretty damn awesome.
@scottmiller5308
2 жыл бұрын
I actually donated $1 to this kickstarter, thought it was going to be the next big thing. It's a shame that the business plan of selling to schools never went through. Awesome video and nice work on the interview with Joe. Looking forward to the next!
@MrZilminator
2 жыл бұрын
Yeh I thought it was going to be huge at the time, I donated $50 so I’d get a T-shirt, still have it and wear it from time to time. 😊
@billycausey4277
Жыл бұрын
God... despite it all ending badly, Joe is my hero with this. He just had an idea and did the damn thing.
@toddpeterson5904
2 жыл бұрын
Well done! I've been watching this series since the beginning, and it's really finding it's style and voice. Can't wait for more
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Would be great if we had a guest for every episode like this but very rare look and interview time spent on this one!
@DynamixWarePro
2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating interview. I found out about the Digital Bolex when watching Philip Bloom's videos and seeing his review of it. Not that I wanted one, but I was interested in iit as it looked like an old pistol grip film camera and Bolex was a name I knew, so I assumed it would be just a digital version of a Bolex camera. I also liked the vintage look of the footage from the camera. I never knew about all that controversy or what happened to them though. It is great to see the camera still being used and talked about today.
@2handsomeforlaw
2 жыл бұрын
What a superb series this is! Now please do the Blackmagic Cinema Camera OG! Please!!
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! And that one is on the list, but probably will be a bit to get to that one 😅
@pasyensyatv9092
Жыл бұрын
Its an amazing project that should have been supported, the big companies got scared of it. but looking at the footages i think it has this pure color palette. i wish they could continue it and find another investor
@jcKobeh
2 жыл бұрын
Best episode so far. Deeper dive than usual.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Way more information than usual 😂
@OpenDGuitar
2 жыл бұрын
I saw these at NAB one year. Very cool and retro.
@davideastham
2 жыл бұрын
Love this 'Abandoned' series !!
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@noopy4085
Жыл бұрын
I think Joe had good intentions when starting this business. But notice how he mentions that at his first job he got removed from customer service and “placed in the back” (interesting). When you start a crowdfunded business that it based and driven by a small community but lack basic people skills and customer care isa good recipe for failure. As a previous owner of a D16 I had the opportunity to shoot and own a very unique camera that shot lovely footage! But owning the camera and investing in the brand we had to also put up with allot! I (like many others) had to send my camera back and forth 3-4 times because of faults and repairs. Essentially we were all paying to be the BETA testers for the brand. Joe was selling the cameras but also peddling random vintage lenses and gear on the side to his Digital Bolex “community”. Upon his recommendation (as the creator of the camera, owner and face of the business) he suggested I purchase some of this (none Digital Bolex) gear off him only to find out after receiving the gear that it was none compatible with my Digital Bolex camera. Joe’s attitude was more or less “tuff cookies” after approaching him about it. I was very disappointed in this, I explained what had happened and my disappointment to the community. To my surprise I received more then a dozen DM’s of people telling me similar stories about Joe (none of them shared any of this info publicly, and probably for good reason) Quickly after I made the critical post I was “booted out” by Joe removed from any means of receiving updates, news, support or repair (and you know you gonna need the repair sooner then later with this camera) for a camera that was now obsolete to the general public. Essentially forcing me with no option but to sell my camera… Joe can dream up and think of 100 cameras for “todays market” I will not be investing in a single one of those 100 cameras! I would not do business again with a person like Joe Rubinstein. So what is the moral of this story? ….Never do business with a hipster who walks around with a fake gun holster and a Jennifer Anniston hair cut!
@noopy4085
Жыл бұрын
Even more interesting reading these comments (and there are allot of positive ones!) But there are also some critical ones much like my own.. I just read the post by 'James DeRuvo' Where he says "can say this video only covers half the story. The other half is broken promises of rewards, banning and removing complaints and going silent for months on end" To this Joe Rubinstein himself comments "I didn't personally ever ban or remove any users or comments" LOL really Joe? EVER? .....well I guess we know you are a god damn lier... it makes you wonder what else is he lying about? ...This was a great KZitem video! I really enjoyed watching it, it's a brilliant story... unfortunately I think we only got half the story.
@noopy4085
Жыл бұрын
[retracted]
@FrameVoyager
Жыл бұрын
Dude! No clue what you're talking about. I'm out of the country and barely been monitoring these comments the past week. I don't "hide" or remove comments on my videos 😂
@noopy4085
Жыл бұрын
@@FrameVoyager Like I told you there are comments that I can see from my account but other people viewing will not see them. (yet the reply count is correct but the number of visual comments don't ad up). If this was not you it must be YT so in that case I retract my statement and apologies to you sir!
@GearSeekers
2 жыл бұрын
These videos are amazing!
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Hopefully they will blow up here a little bit more eventually haha
@FilmsByPJD
2 жыл бұрын
We have a handful of these for student use at my school. I will admit it wasn't my favorite camera in the world (the form factor was especially a turn-off) but it wasn't horrible for me
@fronbasal
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic watch!
@expiredgamer_ugh
2 жыл бұрын
bring it back, but dont bring it back as a way for people to just replace their box and keep using their old accessories....bring it back for the people who want to shoot in this format and not have to hassle with finding a good source for developing films......it shoots in 16mm, has the vintage look in what it shoots, gives it out as raw as possible and accepts old accessories. This is literally a dream camera.
@MANUELHSTUMP
2 жыл бұрын
This has been the best episode of the series so far, congrats
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it!
@thejesuschrist
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, dvxuser, those were fun days
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
👀 Jesus you were on the Dvxuser forum 😮
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
2 жыл бұрын
Omg that image quality is amazing.
@CraigandJane1
2 жыл бұрын
If I had known that this camera was a thing ten years ago, I would’ve bought one instantly. Such a shame.
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Same 😭
@tears2040
2 жыл бұрын
Love this camera , Global shutter excellent and most importantly “color” is beautiful. Should have been higher resolution was the main problem, but honestly this camera when used properly can/has produced amazing imagery. *Of course speaking on independent projects, but that’s where many film makers have passion/love
@Ciborium
2 жыл бұрын
In the interview segments, I could not help but notice that Joseph has a literal "Karen" hairstyle. I think that may be part of the problem. Nobody wants to work with a "Karen". But then again, as a hipster, he probably is doing it *ironically.*
@edouhoekie
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to own me one of those tbh, that looks great!
@AshenTechDotCom
Жыл бұрын
BnH would have been fine IMHO, the problem was that the guy was wanting to target a market that wasnt the target market for this kind of product at the time, bestbuy wouldnt move many units over all imho, and i know how BnH can be, worked for a company that had a contract with them that, had to endup providing on-site company reps to make sure stuff was setup and promoted and sold properly, they also had alot of sales to people for uses products were not suited to.. but, that was true for bestbuy as well.. their products were in the bestbuy segment of "sell well" rather then a 25k camera.. the wrost part...they could have still been operational and making new products and quite successful, if not for the "investor".. and... those over priced cables were always over priced... i also knew where they were sourced from and how to order the 1:1 same cable for under 20bucks.. and by 1:1 i mean, we compared them and... exactly the same, even signal quality was the same(flaws and all..) funny enough these 10$ cables we would get, that were much easier to use, flexable and whippy tested out better and never failed...the high cost ones... due to design often had the conductors break or sep from the connector inside the metal housing..it was repairable, but.who wants to resolder a hundred+ dollar cable when one thats 10% the price never has that issue??? yeah, that included the top spec of the day, 1080p 120hz.. just better all around... its sad when projects like this get fucked by investors... sad they had to learn the hard way this investor was a shitstain..
@iunboxstuff635
2 жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting video, such a cool camera. Major respect for Joe. I have the original Bolex that my dad bought in 76 and it still works like a charm! :)
@tobiaslofi
2 жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t know that it got ever released… I found the kickstarter for it years ago and never heard anything about it since then. I realized by the specs that it’s raw video only which I’m not interested in but I liked it’s look and wished for a more run and gun type of camera version of it. Sad but inspiring story nonetheless!
@c3advertising155
2 жыл бұрын
This is a great documentary.
@stefantomas
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how they struggled to get Kickstarter backing then, when now Kickstarter would put any kind of nonsense out there, backing up repeat offenders, denying any responsibility to the customers they collaboratively swindle out of money.
@pinmag
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was amazing. I love all of these episodes but this camera is one that I’ve always wanted. I also think this camera would do better now than it did back then (aside from investor issues)
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it! Was such a cool look behind the curtain
@CreepyCoolPictures
2 жыл бұрын
I would still love to get my hands on the D16. It came out right after film school for me, and I could never actually afford one. But, that image is what I’m always trying to recreate with filters and overlays. Still, such a great image…
@CryWolfFilms
Жыл бұрын
the stock footage you use is so hilarious
@FrameVoyager
Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@davidjayamazingkitesurferp3819
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing series!!!! Great video!!! thanks all your efforts!!!
@dannycalley7777
2 жыл бұрын
FV ...................JOE IS THE MAN !!!!!!!...........he paid his dues , great story wonderful back round music FV !!!!!!
@FrameVoyager
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@TimButt2
2 жыл бұрын
I still love the look of this camera. Still remember learning film first on the Bolex H16 in college. So I would have loved using the Digital Bolex as well. Gonna have to see if I can get my hands on one for the unique look it has. Shoot it with some classic C-Mount 16mm Lenses that I would have used on the Bolex H16. The thing I loved about the Digital Bolex was that it gave such an amazing digital vintage image.
@enkaphalin1111
2 жыл бұрын
A video on my personal white whale dream cam... i cant get anymore excited
Пікірлер: 609