The secret to the nissan system is to 2foot it. Right foot on the gas, left on the brake. As long as you keep on the gas the system keeps the program up. The brake pedal is significantly firmer and as soon as you let off it, the abls does its thing on the slipping wheel. I use this technique when climbing over boulderfields where i need power to get up over a rock or ledge but don't want to shoot over the other side.
@rizenoff-road179
3 жыл бұрын
ABLS has helped me many times. Key is low RPM and stay steady on the skinny pedal. It's no locker, but a decent traction system when used properly.
@mikehub6664
3 жыл бұрын
Performs better than A-Trac at the time too.
@rizenoff-road179
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664 not sure if it's better than A-TRAC, though the system is the same. I've seen A-TRAC work pretty well too. I hear it's a little more aggressive than ABLS.
@mikehub6664
3 жыл бұрын
@@rizenoff-road179 the current A-Trac is leaps and bounds better but when it first came out on the LC, 4th gen 4Runners ect it wasn't as good as ABLS.
@pizzasaurolophus
2 жыл бұрын
ABLS does also work with the brake pedal on, however it obviously needs wheel spin to engage. If you can learn how to 2 pedal drive with it, it's much smoother to engage.
@RebelAtH3art
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. Just got back from my first off road trip. I naturally stay steady on the throttle so that explains why I was having a pretty good time. Climbed a hill that my buddy's older Land Rover had to lock up front and back on. This information is super useful. Thank you!
@mikehub6664
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Enjoy your rig!
@jeffmommsen7594
3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you. My 3rd R51 and I never really knew but also haven't really had problems. I guess I just drive on the throttle all the time :-)
@AK-ky3ou
3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Abls is pretty damn good.
@akunia18
2 жыл бұрын
Very informative!
@mikehub6664
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope it helps!
@joevasquez1776
8 ай бұрын
Good for sharing
@AndrewMcMillenium
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, really informative!
@mikehub6664
3 жыл бұрын
No prob!
@Mosmos993
11 ай бұрын
Subbed b/c you know what’s up
@mr2gud2u
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great vid. The R51 is back in the running for my next 3rd row offroader. Right now I'm looking at 05-07 sequoia, R51s and Mitsubishi 03-06 Monteros. Currently I wheel a gen 1.5 xterra. She has been an absolute tank. I've yet to break anything on the trails. I'm curious how you think the R51 stacks up against the 2 other rigs in the running.
@mikehub6664
3 жыл бұрын
It really depends on what you want to do. There are less mods available with the R51 platform but it shares the exact same chassis and powertrain with the d40 frontier and and N50 xterra. Skids, front suspension and replacement parts are plentiful, cheap and interchangeable. For me it's really between the sequoia and the R51. For light touring I'd choose the R51. Fully independent suspension (I roll without sway bars) is a luxury on road, most mild to moderate trails, and will fit on any trail. For more serious off-roading I'd pay the toyota tax. Montero part availability is an issue I'd have if I was on a trip and needed a part to get me home. Never broke down or had a part failure while off-road in my R51. 160,000mi on the clock so far.
@michaelschut2245
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. I have a base model 2wd Frontier S. I bought it used with new A/T tires. I do not off-road, but am in rural residential construction and so get into some mild terrain on occasions . I recently got stuck in the mud, and my buddy had to pull me out. I did nothing special, didn’t go into low gear or anything. I was clueless and embarrassed. What should I have done differently? I believe I have ABLS also, do I engage it differently having only 2wd? Any help would be appreciated.
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
There is not really much you can do with mud and 2wd. Even 2 million dollar trophy trucks easily get stuck in the mud. Switching to a more aggressive tires is the best bet. Milestar Patagonia M/Ts for example. You have abls but it only works on the drive axle.
@michaelschut2245
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664 Thank you for responding. Do you know if the new Frontier (22&23) have ABLS?
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelschut2245 yes they do. It’s an updated version built into the VDC system.
@user-wo7rz3yn4o
2 жыл бұрын
I guess the truck was just a prop for sitting in. Disappointed that there was not a demonstration to go along with the good (but a bit long) explanation .
@mikehub6664
2 жыл бұрын
You’re right, I should whip one up soon!
@KGX470
2 жыл бұрын
What if you just have the S model Xterra without the locking rear diff? Will ABLS work well on its own? How would you tackle the downhill decent? Will we put 4Low abd shift into 1st or 2nd great?
@mikehub6664
2 жыл бұрын
05+ Low-range will engage abls the best. Gear doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t power through traction control.
@Labsy
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you for this! Just one question: I've had R51 2006 year before, now I bought facelift R51 2010 year V6 3.0 diesel. Better engine, but ABLS seems totally useless on this model, especially in diagonal offroad test - it simply does not figure it out, spins diagonal wheels indefinitelly in all modes, with more or less throttle. Think this is just over ABLS capability, or is there something wrong in my case?
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
Low range is where it's most aggressive in torque vectoring. Are you automatic or manual transmission? Potential the brake pad and rotor don't have enough friction to transfer the torque, manual transmission the clutch switch to the ecm might be stuck, or there may be an issue with the ABS system. I had a repair done on mine that required a new wire ran and an inline coil. Wire burned out in the ABS system. Apparently there a TSB at the dealers for it. $250 for diagnosis and repair.
@Labsy
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664, thanx! I have Auto transmission. I have been at Nissan service and they say there are no error codes, only two 1000 type, like communication errors from the past. Looking something like this, where this is exactly my car, but this is working ABLS, while my car just spins and spins... :( kzitem.info/news/bejne/zIabx6dunqOYhag
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
@@Labsy how do the brakes feel? Perhaps the brake system needs servicing. 173,809km I replaced pads non-ceramic, slotted rotors from R1 Concepts and fluid flush. Ceramic brake pads don't allow the abls to work optimally from my experience.
@Labsy
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664, brakes feel just fine, much better than on my previous R51 pathfinder 2006 year. Pads and disks are OEM, changed 1,5 years ago and they are in good condition. I will try find out some diagonal test incline and take a video, also for me to see if brakes are applied at all. Will keep this thread updated for technical reasons :)
@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777
2 ай бұрын
@@mikehub6664what were the symptoms of this TSB issue that alerted you that there was a problem?
@futuresight2693
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2wd Titan, do you think the Abls is sufficient enough to overlook installing a Truetrac?
@mikehub6664
2 жыл бұрын
Without 4wd abls will be severely limited in off-road situations. At the price of a truetrac I would get a titan pro4x with complete axle from a junkyard or parts recycler and wire a switch to activate the locker. If budget is limited, an automatic locker maybe be worth it and cheaper than both options but is a little clunky and noisy on road and can be hazardous in slippery high speed driving. But a full locked rear end will get you much further and if a drive wheel lifts no power or momentum is lost. You can get pretty far with locked 2wd, nearly as far as an unlocked 4wd.
@fromabove1389
Жыл бұрын
Hello Mike, I'm from Europe and I have an automatic R51 , 2.5 diesel engine. How do I know if my Pathfinder have ABLS system? I only have ESP button and transfer box comutator 2w, 4H-4L....Maybe ABLS system on R51 is available only for US R51?
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
All R51s globally have them.
@fromabove1389
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664 thanks.....then I should learn how to use it...🤘
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
@@fromabove1389 Definitely! ABLS has different parameters for 4H VDC ON ( for on road), 4H VDC OFF (off road), and 4L. In 4L VDC is automatically off. Have fun test it!
@fromabove1389
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664 Sorry...i make some research and indeed VDC is the same like ESP...
@wadesafool
Жыл бұрын
Have you found a rear locker or lsd for decent price for the v6 r51?
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
There is an arb locker than can be installed but requires some modification for it to fit due to the ring gear size. I've heard that a spartan locker for the titan will fit in the carrier but it's a lunch box auto locker. These vehicles really only need a front auto lock from Lokka. These units are fully unlock when in 2wd. Right now I'm still fully open diffs
@wadesafool
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664 lokka sounds like the best option I just wonder if the front v6 diff can handle a locker without breaking things?
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
@@wadesafool the spider gears is the weakest link and the Lokka replaces all of that with a stronger unit. So definitely an upgrade.
@wadesafool
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664 oh nice! I was worried the aluminum diff housing was the weak link
@mikehub6664
Жыл бұрын
@@wadesafool when the spider gears grande it would frag and crack the case.
@LiveLiveMore
3 жыл бұрын
Will it work in loose sand/ soft sand
@mikehub6664
3 жыл бұрын
It's not very good at maintaining momentum on a dune wall or bowl like a locker would. If you dig yourself into a bad spot 4low and low throttle input will pull itself out with patience. It's not a dune basher but I've never gotten stuck in the soft stuff with correct tire pressures.
@LiveLiveMore
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikehub6664 you meant it doesn’t have a system like ATrack/ crowl control, right?
@mikehub6664
3 жыл бұрын
@@LiveLiveMore it has something like A-TRAC, Nissan calls it ABLS. The older versions of A-TRAC were not good in the sand because it didn't have Terrain Select, that was not available until 2016.
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