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@SansNeural
Жыл бұрын
13:39 "I'm talking to folks who built an airplane from scratch". No, they stole the design from Wisk. Now some of them may feel that they "took their design with them", but it wasn't their dime. Wisk / Boeing's theft of trade secrets lawsuit against Archer starts Jan 2023.
@Andertheil
Жыл бұрын
You totally did not hide your maker intuition of death standing in the path of that propeller. Lol I thought it too before you cleared your throat. Kinda cool to see engineering instinct in subucneious body language. Also THANK YOU FOR DOING EVERYTHING YOU DO!
@davydatwood3158
Жыл бұрын
The video - and company - is focused on urban passenger transport, but I think this might be even more useful in rural locations. A lot of places in the US and Canada no longer get Greyhound bus service because of costs. Imagine if you could just call for a flight instead! And it would probably be easier to find good places for landing sites. Or ambulances. Right now, rural locations in Alberta are still primarily served by ground ambulances, because of the cost of operation for an air ambulance. This means a lot of people waiting 30 minutes or longer for an EMT to get on site. A lot of the cost of the helo is fuel, of course, but also the *pilot*. If the autonomous vehicles get capable enough, you could replace those rural ground ambulances with an eVTOL. There'd still be the EMTs or paramedics aboard, but you wouldn't need to also have a professional pilot for every single bird; instead, a qualified ground-based operator could monitor four or five birds at once, ready to intervene when needed, and bringing the operating costs down to something affordable!
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
You are correct. While we are focusing on urban air mobility, the applications for eVTOL technology expand far beyond the scope of UAM. It's going to be an exciting future for our industry!
@azgarogly
Жыл бұрын
While in the urban environment such an apparatus would land on fixed locations, in a countryside the choice of landing spot is a non trivial task and is hardly doable by autonomous vehicle or person without proper qualification. That is one thing that makes it less likely to happen in a near future. The range is another problem. Urban areas tend to be quite compact. Shorter flights make electric vehicles less atrociously inefficient in that regard. I am sure that kind of aircraft can be adapted to winter conditions. But deicing adds quite a bit of complexity and risks. California in a summer is kinda hothouse conditions. Canada and Alaska are totally different place.
@ChrisBLong
Жыл бұрын
That will almost certainly never happen. If there was enough demand for rural transport to make operating a fleet of these bad boys commercially viable, a bus operator could come in and undercut you by 50%. Operating any kind of aircraft is always going to be massively more expensive than operating a six-seater minibus or similar. You can already "call for a flight instead" - helicopters exist. You don't do that because of the cost, not because a solution doesn't exist.
@azgarogly
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBLong While I mostly agree with your arguments, I would disagree with a statement. They say that people have being stating that automobile would never be main rural transport, because a horse wagon operator could come and undercut you by 50% :) At the moment autonomous electric aircraft transport service seems to be not commercially feasible. But there are already areas where aircraft are important means of private transportation and main emergency transport. Bush plane is one example. Alpine helicopter ambulance is another. That electric VTOL is potentially more convenient and even economical replacement for road vehicles in any place the road is not short and straight. People value time over money. Due to physics an aircraft will be always more expensive than a road vehicle, at least if you don't count the road upkeep. But as the energy storage technology improves and energy itself is getting cheaper, at some point you won't care for energy cost. Not today. Not tomorrow. But I would definitely not say never.
@davydatwood3158
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBLong Ah, but the entire point of the video is a company's attempt to reduce the cost of on-demand, point-to-point VTOL flight to a level where mass implementation is possible! Granted, market density in a rural environment is lower and you'd need a longer range aircraft (and a winterised one for most of the industrialised world, yes). But it's not *impossible.* The bus analogy is also a bit imperfect. The real reason first trains and then busses disappeared wasn't cost, it was convenience; with either any passenger was at the mercy of the operator's schedule, and usually had to spend a bunch of extra time going somewhere they didn't care about in order to serve some *other* customer's needs. This is also one of the big challenges with urban mass transit, at least in North America - people are more concerned about convenience than cost. This concept is more of a "flying uber," where you don't have to share the vehicle with a bunch of strangers and it goes directly to where you want it to go. Now, we dontt see ride-shares or even taxi companies servicing a lot of small towns either - but a lot of that is a time and TCO problem. For my father to take a cab into the city, it's going to occupy the cab for over an hour. The cost of that trip is proportionately high; and thus the customer base is small. The higher speeds and more direct routing of an aircraft *may* be able to offset that. I don't say it *will* and there are certainly obstacles to overcome, but I don't say it *won't* happen either. To my mind, the real question is "could this happen fast enough that there are any small towns *left*, or will NorAm be down to a handful of folks living on farms and bush quarters with everyone else having moved into the cities by the time the tech is viable?"
@mdelles
Жыл бұрын
I love how Adam is still over the "where is my flying car?" generation and I'm of the "for the love of god, can we please build modern trains?" generation
@c1ph3rpunk
Жыл бұрын
I’m of the same gen as Adam, we were, quite literally, promised flying cars “by the turn of the century”. All I got for Y2K was a night of sitting in a data center, waiting for the world to end. They didn’t even give me that.
@timothywalsh1001
Жыл бұрын
I want a modern day model T..., Something simple and affordable.
@gearandalthefirst7027
Жыл бұрын
@@timothywalsh1001 What you're looking for is a bus pass
@cadewey6181
Жыл бұрын
@@timothywalsh1001 yes but after T’s saturated the market, it lost out to cars with headlights, heaters, windshield wipers, more power. . . .
@timothywalsh1001
Жыл бұрын
@@gearandalthefirst7027 What I'm ACTUALLY DESIGNING ... is a platform for commercial use. For everything & everyone. For daily commute, for work, for families, for business and trades. ... Btw... I'm 59, and wrote a thesis about oil 42yrs AGO !! I retired from the liquefied gasses field before I was 50. Few of the college classes I took were ecology, meteorology, geology WHEN I WAS 10 !! ... Why is there always some jerk, who knows nothing speaking out ? I'm tired of being polite... whilst "know-nothings" spew BS. ... -"the Gadget" ... most ppl don't even know my real name.
@Spidd124
Жыл бұрын
And means to address LA traffic except implementing a proper public transport network. Never change America, never change.
@minihjalte
Жыл бұрын
Now now, trains would just make too much sense.
@air-headedaviator1805
Жыл бұрын
Envisioning it as a viable alternative is the issue, thats not to say there isn’t ventures to provide mass market as well.
@wonder_platypus8337
Жыл бұрын
Capitalism wants you to throw money at a problem instead of thinking about how to actually solve it.
@frankderks1150
Жыл бұрын
We don't need a you tube channel named: Idiots in flying cars....
@F0XD1E
Жыл бұрын
I don't know who they think they're kidding. Adam goffed at it too.
@craigt66271
Жыл бұрын
One of the few still using grok in normal conversation. Love it
@craigt66271
Жыл бұрын
@@BrotherChad it originates from Stanger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. I may have to reread, its been a while
@air-headedaviator1805
Жыл бұрын
I’m a huge aviation fan, I love aircraft, I love engineering and pushing the boundaries of craft. That said…its hard to imagine air taxi’s as a viable, mass market resource. For one, congestion is still primarily solved by mass transport not a different form of individual transport. For two, even cheap cheap cheap new aircraft is like buying a Lamborghini, and maintaining it? A whole different story. This isn’t niche because not a lot of people wouldn’t want it, its niche because it’ll be freaking expensive, millions of dollars IF it was from an established manufacturer. From a start up? I guess you have to start somewhere, but it would be nice if you could buy a new Cessna like aircraft for under $80,000 first lol
@akaHarvesteR
Жыл бұрын
The idea here isn't (as far as I understand it) for people to own these individually. It's for them to be used in a rideshare-like system, where people call for one when they need a ride. It's more like a helicopter air-taxi, but with far far lower op costs.
@EndLess1UP
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if that's true because since we drive on a linear roadway you can't like make your own ways. That's not the case here. So there would be no congestion in the vehicles would fly on their own. That's why we're making self-driving technology and that's why there's so many satellites in the sky
@eaglestdogg
Жыл бұрын
@@EndLess1UP there's still going to be congestion even in the sky. Look at big airports, you often can't land or take off immediately and have to wait in line and that's with huge planes carrying tons of people let alone a small VTOL carrying 1-4 people. As op said the solution to congestion is mass low cost public transit, not new forms of personal transit. The aircraft is still fascinating and I hope it gets into use for niche cases but I don't think your average person is going to be taking air taxies on a regular basis.
@Nerfmeister42
Жыл бұрын
The goal here is for you to pay about the same as an Uber black for a trip from Manhatten to Newark airport. The market will start out small, but depending on the social acceptance, the EVtol companies in this space are betting on it growing into a business the could be as large as Uber is now for these types of distances / durations of trips. As far as maintenance goes. These electric vehicles lack expensive engines that need constant maintenenace. No fuel pumps, oils, or other items, so the cost of ownership is a lot lower than other verhicles. (compare an Electric car to an ICE Car and it already demonstrates the difference, except no tire rotation ;) )
@c.j.1089
Жыл бұрын
Also a pilot. A lot of people that love technology and have a familiarity with drones assume this technology will scale. Unfortunately, that has not proven the case in GA. Most of these aircraft that are large enough to be viable for transportation have absolutely laughable ranges, and huge shortfalls. They're selling you on this magnificent innovation, but don't bother to tell you it has a hilarious 100 mile range. While this is nearly triple the range of most electric aircraft, when it comes to general aviation this is a clown shoe. This is primarily due to the weight and energy density of Lithium batteries when compared to AV Gas. To put this in focus, A Cessna 172, the defacto staple of GA, has a ~700 mile range. At the current technology, an electric aircraft will have roughly 10% of the range, and cost 5-10x as much. You're decades away from a product that has any chance of selling a couple units. As far as short distance commuting, a Robinson R22 would cost probably 10x less, exists right now, and has exponentially more range. Also, it's legal. These electric VTOLs (to my knowledge) have no operational certificate and only exist in KZitem videos on private land. I don't want to crush a lot of the dreamers out there that see this as how you're going to get to work in 10 years. This is merely the first step. Don't expect to see this anytime soon, and possibly not in your lifetime.
@tench745
Жыл бұрын
I think that's the thing that gets me the most about manned multirotors. There are a bunch of aerospace firms working on autonomous "solutions" but there currently isn't a market demand, so they have to manufacture the market too. It's an impressive feat but it also feels like manufacturing a problem for a solution when neither really needs to exist. When you have a number of vehicles trying to get to the same place, you will always have congestion. Be it cars, aircraft, boats, or what-have-you. The smallest footprint transportation is a human themselves. The more people you can combine in a given space, the more efficient the people-moving becomes. Having the airspace isn't the biggest problem, but the interface where population centers meet the technology. Practical busses, trains, and other mass transit seems like a much better solution to sustainability and overcrowding issues. As an aviation aficionado, I have concerns that autonomous systems will be prioritized over and crowd out general/recreational aviation. Already the FAA has begun cordoning off airspace for autonomous vehicles to the detriment of RC hobbyists. I am simultaneously excited and worried about where this technology will take us.
@Dhaiwon
Жыл бұрын
I have grown up with what many would consider a good public transportation(large city in sweden). It's probably not the best in the world, but it's many many steps ahead of say usa's model. And in all honesty all it does it makes it bearable, not likeable. The only real reason it works its because using a car is worse in the city centers. So it kind of sustains itself on other methods being worse, not by being a likeable alternative on its own.
@SansNeural
Жыл бұрын
Those more practical transport solutions aren't shiny and seductive enough to attract stupid, new money.
@TMWriting
Жыл бұрын
This will be an amazing, futuristic piece of technology that will make a very small amount of people very happy.
@KurtVW
Жыл бұрын
100% Agree. If they make this in a 20 or 40 passenger version (more flying bus than air taxi) to go from suburban 'verti-ports' to the hubs, then that is a winner idea that might actually make it. But 2 to 6 passenger 'private' service, nope. Thats just futurist hype that looks sexy and doesn't work. Moving the horrible traffic from the ground to the air doesn't make it better. But moving mass transit to the air does make traffic on the ground better first by getting mass transit of the streets, and second by getting people out of their cars because in this example air would typically be faster. But, if its private and you need 10 planes to move the same number of people that a 40 person version could haul, now its just creating insane air traffic and noise that nobody wants.
@SpoonOfDoom
Жыл бұрын
Well said. The entire video I was torn in two because this is cool tech and I like cool tech, but as an actual product this seems very flawed for all the reasons already stated in this comment thread and probably more that I can't think of. I do also agree though that a "bus" version of this might actually have a net benefit, but even then it's depending on how well it works and how it's implemented. If I have to go through airport-like security theater to board on of these for example, then I can't see people use it in day-to-day. Or at all except for very specific situations (shuttle service to and from airports is pretty much the only one I can think of).
@Bluswede
Жыл бұрын
08:33 Adam says he just kinda' grokked How much fluid dynamics was involved in the design of the propeller. Adam? you ARE truly a stranger in a strange land!
@christalbert722
Жыл бұрын
Yes, and he's one of us! :)
@ryanohoro3764
Жыл бұрын
Glad to not be alone in being disappointed by the lack of skepticism at what these types of vehicles actually represent. It won't matter how good this technology gets, it will never address the core problems of car-oriented development and lackluster public transit.
@rb_-zc9nv
Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel, absolutely love Adam Savage's enthusiasm! I'm sure it's very encouraging for all the engineers he talks to to see someone on the outside just absolutely in love with the product and how it works
@Digital-Dan
Жыл бұрын
In 1974, one could hop in a repurposed troop-transport helicopter in Palo Alto and be taken the 25 miles to SFO Airport for a trip. This was at the time part of the ticket price (e.g., free.) Didn't last long. Hope springs eternal.
@craigsbully
Жыл бұрын
indeed, Hopes spring is eternal.
@armchair1
Жыл бұрын
I have been excited about aviation all my life and when I saw the Aptera car it was the perfect shape for a small flying car.
@alanrogers7090
Жыл бұрын
I loved how, when they were discussing how quiet the aircraft was, there was so much noise in the background.
@alexandermarinosyan357
Жыл бұрын
Interesting how sales people taught engineers to use present tense when they really mean future tense.
@AbiNubli
Жыл бұрын
That's surprisingly quiet. Unlike other flying car startups
@timmetimme1360
Жыл бұрын
I dount think it is ,12 small Engines are definitely louder than one big engines . I bet a modern Helicopter is more quiet then this thing.
@alakazaam4292
Жыл бұрын
@@timmetimme1360 it’s quiet, we heard it in the video. A helicopter would be excessively louder. Not to mention the motors are electric and the blades small and designed to be quiet.
@timmetimme1360
Жыл бұрын
@@alakazaam4292 The sound in the video is turned down very much. In the video its more quietly then a small drone its imposible to make it so mutch biger and add another 8 engines to it while making it more quietly The smaller the rotor (blades) the more rpm it needs and it gets louder .
@Yutani_Crayven
Жыл бұрын
@@timmetimme1360 Watch the video again. They specifically explain the benefits of smaller vs larger engines on noise, when done correctly.
@timmetimme1360
Жыл бұрын
@@Yutani_Crayven Na i dount need to . I know better ! The blade Design comes from Airbus they juse it for a long time now not only on Aircraft but also on Helikopters . I know this thing is Louder then a modern Helikopter 100% ! If you guys wont to belive in this then do so . I m sure it will go nowhere like every "flyingcar" bevor.
@TheBigburcie
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see what the dead stick landing capabilities of this are. By having an airplane mode I would assume that there is a safety factor of being able to have a controlled descent as opposed to a vertical landing only multirotor.
@jonathangehman4005
Жыл бұрын
I suspect autorotation for emergency situations isn't a possibility due to the low inertia of the lightwieght propellers and lack of thrust reversal. At low speeds, "deadstick" might be a good descriptor
@tomkam9783
Жыл бұрын
@@jonathangehman4005 That's a decent sized wing it's got. I would imagine that in horizontal flight above what their future Pilots Operating handbook describes as "minimum stall speed in level flight, with propellors in forward position," it would glide pretty well, certainly better than any helicopter. And since the props can feather, they may actually help in an autorotation given how many there are, though you're right about a lack of rotational energy. Perhaps they would be better feathered, then unfeathered just before touchdown to lower the landing speed. Or not. Below that speed, or in a hover, or a combination of altitude/speed/propellor angle, I bet it has a parachute rescue system, probably with a pin that will jam-stop the propellors to prevent fouling.
@davewestner
Жыл бұрын
@@tomkam9783 Good call on the parachute. I reckon you're right about that. Makes the most sense, although you gotta wonder what would happen if the thing is only 100' off the ground and the props stop spinning before it gets into forward mode. Kinda doubt the parachute would work at that low height, although I'm no expert.
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
@@davewestner If you're in a hover in any craft at 100' and lose all lift you're pretty equally screwed, at that point you need a good force absorbing chair and some fortunate luck or an ejection seat.
@strehlow
Жыл бұрын
Given the small mass of these props, there really is no autorotation option. It will have some glide slope in horizontal flight, so if it is high enough, it will have some options like a typical aircraft to find a landing site. But it seems that the objective is sufficient redundancy to never need that. With twelve props, it is likely that it can at least make a controlled descent vertical landing on half of them. It would almost certainly be an uncomfortable landing, possibly with irreparable air-frame damage, but not cause injuries. And if it loses two, it would probably be able to either continue to its destination or return to the launch site, so not need to find an emergency landing spot on the way.
@spookmineer
Жыл бұрын
The render of Midnight looks like it could be an Origin design from Star Citizen.
@ElectricPlaneGuy
Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, nice run through on the Archer Maker principles of flight. The market is excited for safer, quieter, lower emissions helicopters!
@maycatyuiop
Жыл бұрын
This scares me. Im afraid of a future where instead of investing in public infrastructure like trains, the wealth dosparity will get worse as the rich fly around whilst the working class are forced to deal with little to no public transit and rich people just continue to release excess carbon into the atmosphere. But at the end of the day its a cool concept that i hope will revolutionize the helicopter industry
@thewaffle003
Жыл бұрын
Need strong, smart, good people in the public sector.
@shirosenshiesq
Жыл бұрын
The medical and search and rescue applications for this alone are staggering.
@dbadilotti
Жыл бұрын
Exactly where my mind went. While air ambulances do amazing service already, I think this could radically improve both their availability and flexibility.
@freeculture
Жыл бұрын
@@dbadilotti Especially if you can call it from an app, uber like. Would be nice if more buildings had Heli pads too...
@alexanderjones2126
Жыл бұрын
If you read this Mr. Savage, they should give serious consideration to a medical version, to operate more or less just like medical helicopters do. Especially important if this kind of platform can move faster than a typical helicopter could in level flight. Low volume, high priority flights seems to be something this sort of platform could do well with, and the cheaper service cost, and higher safety would just be a bonus if such a craft can get from point A to pint B more quickly than a helicopter.
@evolicious
Жыл бұрын
lmfao, literally nothing you said is remotely true. In fact, multi-rotors are far more prone to imbalance and have a much higher cost of operation.
@planespeaking
Жыл бұрын
Would like to live in North California but everyone talking like everything is a question would drive me nuts.
@WatCharles
Жыл бұрын
it's not like that, this guy just talks weird 😂
@terrysullivan1992
Жыл бұрын
I've been noticing this more and more for quite awhile. Here in So. Calif. it seems to have started with young folks living in the "Valley" , San Fernando Valley. It was called Valley Speak. Has always annoyed me. The other thing is the wild over use of waving the arms and hands. Drives me nuts when watching some of the amature UTuber / Pod casters. Go back to the 60s thru the 80 s and watch professional news presenters. No waving of the hands or the Valley speak. Just good clear well paced and pronounced language. Still to be found in professional news casters and media journalists.
@primarytrainer1
Жыл бұрын
really hard to listen to this guy when he answers every question from adam with that upseak
@thewaffle003
Жыл бұрын
It's a certain-parts-of-the-west-coast thing.
@NoName-zn1sb
Жыл бұрын
Y'know?
@ast0815
Жыл бұрын
Incredibly cool stuff. I hope these will find a commercial niche to fill. I feel like the obvious and cheaper solution to congestion is more and better public transport though.
@speakwithanimals
Жыл бұрын
love how many of the comments here are reiterating the fact that congestion will *never* be solved by something like this. It's a cool concept, and probably useful in a specific niche, but you know what would actually help cities like LA? Trains. Busses. More public transportation and increased mixed-use zoning so people can meet their needs on foot. Projects like this will only ever be used by a certain economic caste, and the vast majority of people will only ever see this as another thing blocking their view of the sunset.
@Luzgar
Жыл бұрын
Flying cars are not going to be a thing, ever, this is just a next gen private helicopter. (Still a really cool thing.) You can not give access to the public to something this big that can fly, and you can not have many things that big in flight in a city at the same time.
@UncleKennysPlace
Жыл бұрын
As most of the flight regime is wing-borne, it's not a helicopter.
@Luzgar
Жыл бұрын
@@UncleKennysPlace It is a small aircraft that can take off vertical, it can play the same role as a helicopter.
@TimothyWhiteheadzm
Жыл бұрын
Why are so many people calling helicopters 'flying cars'. They are not. A flying car is a car that can fly. It can also drive on the road. A helicopter is a vertical takeoff/landing aircraft. Sure there are hybrids such as this one that can do vtol and horizontal flight like a plane and don't have a single rotor so aren't really helicopters, but they aren't flying cars either, nor will their primary use in the foreseeable future be transport around a city just as helicopters are not heavily used for transport due to their cost noise and other issues.
@ultrajd
Жыл бұрын
Craft like this would be great for rapid emergency response.
@vossli1074
Жыл бұрын
we have helicopters
@ultrajd
Жыл бұрын
@@vossli1074 It’s called redundancy.
@slabriprock5329
Жыл бұрын
@@ultrajd No it's called impractical and stupid. Just think of all the people who will die while this thing charges. Rescue copters are highly developed, reliable, perfect for the job and refuel in minutes. They can run all day with crew changes if needed. This thing...is a very small plane that can take off vertically and when brand new fly 100 miles under optimal payload, temperature, and wind conditions, with one takeoff and one landing(or maybe 2). A few years later and that drops to 80 miles. And nobody even slightly familiar with battery tech is predicting DOUBLING of capacity "in a few years". Start adding everything needed to save lives and it's out of the running instantly. One problem with electric aviation is a discharged battery weighs the same as a charged one, thus becoming more and more dead weight as it flies..A real plane or helicopter starts getting lighter as soon as the engine starts. That and the energy density of batteries vs fuel makes batteries a joke. Even with the weight savings of the electric powertrain batteries will never equal actual fuel.
@NobleSon32
Жыл бұрын
It seems a bit slow for emergency response.
@ultrajd
Жыл бұрын
@@slabriprock5329 We already have all electric fire trucks.
@fergman300
Жыл бұрын
The ability to hop around large cites...avoiding traffic or catching a lift directly to the airport to catch a flight is great.
@UncleManuel
Жыл бұрын
I'm amazed that he could articulate how propeller noise ist generated - and that I really understood that. Wow! 😎 Of all the VTOL projects this combined design really looks promising compared to just "big drones" (like Volocopter). Efficiency in technicals specs and operations will be the key in the future... ✌️
@EarthCreature.
Жыл бұрын
This is not a scalable eVTOL. Lilium is the leader in this field. Adam is next to incompetent for not recognizing it
@truejim
Жыл бұрын
Adam was trying to find the words to describe how smooth the liftoff looked. What went through my mind is that it looked CGI-like. Like, it was so smooth, it didn't even look like well-implemented game physics. And the same goes for the sound: it sounded like what sci-fi vtol sounds like.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
It's a wild experience to see it in person for this exact reason. Incredibly smooth and stable flight, so much so that it almost doesn't look real even when you're standing there watching it in real life.
@truejim
Жыл бұрын
@@ArcherAviation You should send a clip to Corridor Crew and ask them to evaluate whether or not the CGI is any good. 😄
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
Thanks to you and your team for coming out to our facility to learn about our aircraft and see a flight test, Adam! We're writing a new chapter in aviation history and are thrilled to share this exciting adventure with you and your fans ✈🔋
@the_chomper
Жыл бұрын
you have the most boring companies in one of the most exciting fields. i have no doubt itll end up in bankruptcy. i weep for what could have been.
@kailoucleary6025
Жыл бұрын
You took an existing technology and turned it into a toy for very very rich people. Ok cool I guess, but don't pretend this does anything for the environment or average joe, flying is a long way from being an energy efficient way to travel. Want to get people out of cars, invest effort in public transportation. But that's never sexy enough for these silicon valley types.
@bazil7330
Жыл бұрын
Your Fired!
@Nobody-Nowhere
Жыл бұрын
You paid them, of course they came.
@bobwall8021
Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of small towns without easy access to the larger cities around them. I live in one and something like this could be amazing for taking to the airport to get on a plane for longer flights, or evac someone to a better suited hospital. I think these are some avenues your company should look into
@mcbananabread95
Жыл бұрын
I love the way it looks and how it lifts off the ground!
@lukecowlishaw
Жыл бұрын
I like how excited Adam gets but this is too much like a sell out video and the whole video is too much like an ad to fully enjoy the concept and joy Adam shows
@SansNeural
Жыл бұрын
Archer are definitely pushing hard on the marketing side. I wonder if Adam was aware of the controversy (and lawsuit) around Archer hiring away a bunch of engineering staff from Wisk, then a month later announcing an eVTOL that is strikingly similar to Wisk's. Wisk / Boeing's lawsuit also cites their soon-to-be-former engineering manager downloading several gigs of engineering files from Wisk to his home shortly after interviewing with Archer. Trial is set to start next month. I'll keep my e-plane investment dollars in my pocket.
@lukecowlishaw
Жыл бұрын
@@SansNeural I wasn't aware of the controversy, this paints this video in an even darker brush
@mithos56
Жыл бұрын
How quiet is quiet? Drones are loud as F, I wouldn't want them buzzing outside my window all day. Can you make a plane quieter then that, or is the plan for them to be too high for it to be a problem? How involved does the FAA need to be with flight plans?
@DigitalNeb
Жыл бұрын
I started laughing really hard when he said "1 in a billion flight hours." Wow man, that's what I call some tight tolerances. Can't wait to see one of these in person. Here's hoping I'm not the 1 in a billionth guy.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
Safety is our top priority which is why we've designed our aircraft to such high standards with so much redundancy built into our systems. We look forward to having you fly with us!
@terrysullivan1992
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that planes fail much more often than one in a billion flight hours.
@richv1893
Жыл бұрын
It's cool for what it is right now. We will see where the future takes it.
@YeeLeeHaw
Жыл бұрын
Will you do another video trying out electric unicycles? They've come a long way since.
@chrisleggatt3240
Жыл бұрын
A one wheel with a bar stool screwed on!🤣
@kirahitomi7994
Жыл бұрын
That sound when it started up and took off, omg that was an amazing sound.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
😎😎
@brickguy5603
Жыл бұрын
This man invented the helicopter for city travel when, what we really need is just better public transportation infrastructure.
@particle_wave7614
Жыл бұрын
let's be honest, this thing will cost 6 figures. it's not for the general public
@MrMartinSchou
Жыл бұрын
@@particle_wave7614 Busses are 6 figures too. Sometimes even around half a million dollars a pop. A train can easily be five million dollars. Expensive doesn't mean it won't be for the general public. But this won't be for the general public, even as a general taxi cab service. It'll be for business class level passengers.
@datonkallandor8687
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMartinSchou Busses can fit a couple more people than this.
@MrMartinSchou
Жыл бұрын
@@datonkallandor8687 I never claimed otherwise. My point was that you cannot simply rule stuff out for general public use by cost. And this being a prototype, we also cannot rule out that there will be 20-seater versions of this type of vehicle. I doubt that will happen, but we cannot rule it out.
@someguyontheinternet7165
Жыл бұрын
@@particle_wave76146 figures is optimistic lol. Closer to 8. A traditional, mass produced, carbureted 4 seater trainer plane is routinely over 400k. Closer to 500k with fancy avionics. That’s for the most common mass produced models that have the advantage of economy of scale. A common turbo props can exceed 5 million. Something this wildly complex could easily exceed twice that.
@scottbrown411
Жыл бұрын
I love how your enthusiasm brings out theirs, you're great at that!
@SansNeural
Жыл бұрын
Big dollars bring big enthusiasm!
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
Adam is one of those rare stars who is even cooler in person than he is on TV.
@scottbrown411
Жыл бұрын
@@SansNeural Not for Adam Savage, certain he'd be just as enthusiastic for something worth 'nothing' as he was for this :)
@sq_paradox
Жыл бұрын
They talk like they invented tiltrotors, they don't even use the proper name. Don't get me wrong, tiltrotors are awesome and I'm so glad we are finally seeing some civilian development but give credit where credit is due! It took 20 years of development to get this right on the V-22 Osprey.
@freeculture
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, but it sounds unfortunate the name they chose, as one nickname the Ospreys had was Widow MAKER until they ironed out the problems...
@lethaldumpster2699
Жыл бұрын
I think improved city infrastructure is a better time saver and cost saver than a flying car. Cause at the end of the day, its still expensive, and still takes a huge amount of space. How are you gonna fly in a world full of these, not congested, when these are huge, and even for landing, you need space to land. You'd need several times the parking space for the same 1 person transport a car would provide. Let alone hundreds of times the space a bicycle takes up.
@SinisterMD
Жыл бұрын
Electric will continue to find its way into our means of travel. Though I know that autonomous vehicles have gotten very good and human pilot error is often a cause of air crashes...somehow I just feel better with an actual pilot. I'm sure that will change with time and the only way is to just keep moving forward. Great episode Adam.
@SCP.343
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm too desensitized to hearing about human caused vehicle accidents, hearing about self piloted vehicles crashing would shake me up more. Even though I know that that's illogical.
@RicardoMorenoAlmeida
Жыл бұрын
Do you fly in comercial airplanes? You DO know that they are 99% flown by the autopilot these days right? It's only regulations that stop them from letting the autopilot take-off and land.
@SinisterMD
Жыл бұрын
@@RicardoMorenoAlmeida Yes. I’m well aware of that. I’m also aware that computers aren’t good with unexpected failure. US Airways 1549 would very likely have been catastrophically different with a computer flying. As I said, I’m sure they will improve but they are terrible at improvising.
@RicardoMorenoAlmeida
Жыл бұрын
@@SinisterMD I know we can never actually answer this, but I think that if autopilots could have been active in a lot of the accidents that are caused by human error (there are more of them than freak accidents where ingenuity can help), they could have prevented more lives than have been saved by heroic pilots under unforeseen circumstances, which would, probably have been lost. And I know that is a very utilitarian thing to say, but I think that whatever saves more lives should be our goal and IF removing or diminishing human interaction is the answer I'd want to go in that direction. 🤷♂
@Thezuule1
Жыл бұрын
@@RicardoMorenoAlmeida Autopilot lands the airplane in many cases. There just needs to be a human being there while it happens.
@napeekapunpimtongnara9111
Жыл бұрын
This would be a great breakthrough in aircraft innovation and respond well to the demands of a fast-paced society. It is beautiful in design and defies the laws of Earth's magnetic field. best design
@ADHDVLOGS
Жыл бұрын
I still can't believe companies have witnessed how people drive and said "how about we make it so they can fly".
@utubrGaming
Жыл бұрын
Then it'll be better to have three dimensions to course-correct than two, I'd say.
@marijuanas
Жыл бұрын
That's why they won't let just anyone operate one of these, and it will more than likely be all automated.
@air-headedaviator1805
Жыл бұрын
Tbf, their envisioning autonomous taxi’s
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
Our aircraft will operate as an aerial ridesharing service and be flown by professional pilots just like any other airline.
@freeculture
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, more points for autonomous vehicles.
@DasParedes
Жыл бұрын
walkable cities and public transports ( like Europe ) would solve the problems that this wants to solve. This said, it's a nice aircraft and interesting way to vertical take off
@Luzgar
Жыл бұрын
Or you could build some good public transit ...
@samuelbarringer715
Жыл бұрын
Flying a plane is exponentially more expensive and exponentially more challenging than taking a train or driving a car.
@natsune09
Жыл бұрын
I don't know, there is something scary about using an aircraft that the crew won't get on. "You're all good, we'll be on the ground to do any controls!"
@_Jester_
Жыл бұрын
It mostly removes human error. Just take a drive during rush hour, too many morons out there.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
We hear you. Our production aircraft, Midnight, will be flown by professional pilots and not be autonomous.
@freeculture
Жыл бұрын
@@ArcherAviation I feel the opposite: No crazy maniacs that could suddenly kamikaze into a building or perhaps not their fault just getting a heart stroke or something. Like mentioned in the video, it may be a generational thing. If it is like i think it is, the human will only be monitoring on board until people can get over the fact the thing has been running by itself all this time. Various transport systems like monorails no longer carry an operator on board.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
@@freeculture As Tom said in the video, we're bringing a piloted aircraft to market because it's nearly impossible to certify an autonomous aircraft with the FAA right now. Autonomy is certainly an option as the industry matures over the next many years and paths for certification on the autonomy front open up.
@mytech6779
Жыл бұрын
@@freeculture a monorail can just stop at any point with no extra anything, just power cutoff.
@estebanruiz80
Жыл бұрын
Just being stuck in Bay Area traffic today , I just had the thought that yes you won’t be traveling on congested roadways , but the congestion will just move to the landing sites for these vehicles , since there will be limited landing spots , so there will be long waits to land.
@falkonfpv
Жыл бұрын
Adam, I also want and thought flying cars would be a thing by now.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
While it's taken a while, that future is now closer than many realize 😎
@pqrstsma2011
Жыл бұрын
18:51 i really like the drumming in the background when they're showing the test flight; i would like to listen to that drum track
@CaptainHoratioPugwash
Жыл бұрын
I don't remember who it was but someone I saw online said that we have flying cars already; they're called helicopters. Practically speaking that's what the ideal imaginary flying car would end up as in reality anyway.
@seanhogan6209
Жыл бұрын
Neil deGrasse Tyson on a Joe Rogan podcast just said that recently. You beat me to it, I literally was about to post if anyone else didnt say this.
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
A helicopter is the equivalent of having to light a wood fire and then balance your bread on a stick to get toast compared to an electric pop-up toaster that costs $14 and requires putting bread in and pushing a lever. Both accomplish the same thing, massive differences in accessibility and convenience that mean they are essentially not at all the same thing.
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
@@seanhogan6209 never seen a guy more fond of hearing his own voice on topics he's not educated in that NdGT, not exactly an authority figure to pay much attention to, same as Joe Rogan and just about everyone of his guests, really...
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
As @msytdc said, eVTOL aircraft offer a superior alternative to helicopters for short range urban air mobility by offering a far safer ride, lower operational costs and lower noise. Helicopter replacement is certainly a part of our plan. You can learn more about our commercialization strategy here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/mm9un4yggXybiW0
@terrysullivan1992
Жыл бұрын
very different. helicopters run on piston and / or turbine engines. Engine fails and you're done. VTOL EV aircraft run on multiple electric engines. Much much more quiet and much more safe.
@swalker6794
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you for this info. I must have missed it as I watched the first time. Merry Christmas!
@Francisco_Angulo_de_Lafuente
Жыл бұрын
We have been seeing prototypes that fly without cargo, without passengers and without a pilot for 20 years...
@evolicious
Жыл бұрын
Because those systems are built on proprietary high-end radar and radio networks from satellite to ground at multi-billion dollar facilities that still get remote operation. It's kinda funny when a tech-bro tries to think they can do the same with an oversized DJI, lmfao.
@deanmcmanis9398
Жыл бұрын
This is SO cool! 😎Thanks for sharing!🥳
@SAOS451316
Жыл бұрын
How about flying trains? Or, you know, regular trains? Flying taxis (because planes need a pilot's license and a lot more training than driving a car so flying cars are a no-no) are just expanding the congestion problem into three dimensions. Even if you had perfect autonomous aircraft the safety margins for air traffic are a lot larger than automotive traffic due to fluid dynamics. You'd buy time only, not a solution, and not a lot of time at that. Fifty years if you're lucky. Ask air traffic controllers or aircraft accident investigators what they'd think about ten thousand planes flying around the southern Californian metropolis. Americans, please kick the auto industry out of your lawmaking and get your train network back. You'll be so much happier. Even the congestion-solving AIs meant to optimize car traffic just reinvent trains. They remain the safest, fastest, and most efficient means of mass transit. Also, this here is a plane, not a car. It's far too wide to drive on public roads and even if the wings folded up and down again it would then be too tall. As other people have said, this has a use in certain situations but it wouldn't be adopted for widespread use. They *boast* of its 100 mile range but that's pathetic. Batteries haven't exactly advanced much at all in decades so without more energy storage even the limited use-cases for this thing are limited further.
@fonwoolridge
Жыл бұрын
Love it! Flying cars are really really close now! Lets all get saving up!
@SimonAmazingClarke
Жыл бұрын
Love it. I hope they can get through the FAA on time. Twenty five years as an Aircraft Weights Engineer and I love what they are making.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support, Simon! You can learn more about our collaborative relationship with the FAA and progress by watching our recent presentation on certification here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/2oeOsoGgm3R5iG0
@SansNeural
Жыл бұрын
I'll put my money on Wisk / Boeing, from whom Archer seems to have stolen their technology.
@adammcinnes5615
Жыл бұрын
I might have missed this, but I have to wonder if the vertical propellers provide any kind of lift in horizontal flight like what happens in an autogyro.
@samhklm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing such an interesting bit of new technology. Unfortunately the idea of flying cars is preposterous. Having a work place where this vehicle could land and park will never happen. And for any meaningful number of these types of aircraft flying at rush hour is a frightening prospect. Work-from-home obviates the need for flying cars at this point as well. This technology MIGHT has a chance in the regional local hop commercial market, but that needs proving.
@jamesengland7461
Жыл бұрын
You do realize most people actually still have to work in person, right?
@samhklm
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesengland7461 James you do realize that this company is presenting not just a flying car, but an ELECTRIC one? Do you have a scenario where average folks fly to work everyday? ( The Area 51 express from Las Vegas excluded of course.).
@bobbonham4823
Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I too have been waiting for a "flying car"!!!!
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
We look forward to you flying with us in 2025 and beyond!
@kevinmccarthy2793
Жыл бұрын
I really hope we never get flying cars. There are way too many people who can't function in two dimensions (and restricted dimensions at that). Those people with access to unrestricted 3-d space will be exceedingly dangerous.
@NeutroniummAlchemist
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Now that idiot who texts and drives crashes into your house instead of just being a hazard on the road.
@MisterRlGHT
Жыл бұрын
No people can function in two dimensions. None.
@ofthedifference
Жыл бұрын
>Kevin McCarthy I listened to an interview with Elon Musk just yesterday and he said almost the exact same thing you just did when asked if he would be inclined to make flying cars for the public to buy besides his Tesla cars. Like you, he does not relish the flying car market at all as the solution to traffic congestion. He favors the tunnel idea for cars. I agree with you both about functionality of the masses to be dubious at best.
@seanalanmorris199
Жыл бұрын
As a visually impaired person, this technology promises a tremendous amount of independence. New drinking game, take a shot every time Tom says, “Right?”
@freeculture
Жыл бұрын
Just like the original Waymo autonomous car concept, you will simply sit in and tell it where you want to go, the thing will solve it by itself.
@Piers811
Жыл бұрын
"What is the public's appetite for autonomous flying vehicles?" Adam's question here seems to earnestly pose the idea that these vehicles will be available to the public. Let's make no bones about this. These are going to be taxis for the super-rich. Think along the lines of Musk's Hyperloop plans - extravagant convenience for billionaires dressed up in the language of the common good. Sure, we should be excited about where this technology might lead. However, we shouldn't pretend that (in the near term) this will lead to any change in the lives of ordinary people by calling these vehicles "flying cars". Ordinary people will not see the inside of one of these for intracity transport for many years. When so many people are struggling with incomes that fail to match inflation, it is hard to be optimistic or even excited by this. If this all sounds wildly pessimistic to you reading, please call me out on it, I'd love to hear other people's perspectives.
@thewaffle003
Жыл бұрын
We need a strong and healthy public sector. You are right.
@leeross7896
Жыл бұрын
2 years from first flight to obtaining an FAA Type certification? That's a time frame that inexperienced companies like, Cessna, Piper, Cirrus and Beechcraft have never achieved :) The Honda Jet had its first flight on Dec 2003 and they received their type certificate on Dec 2015. :)
@mytech6779
Жыл бұрын
its an investment scam
@donnieweston3249
Жыл бұрын
The unwavering optimism in the engineer is great, but taking 4 people to the airport at a time is not going to change anything. Great engineering thought.
@freeculture
Жыл бұрын
It can still be useful for other things/places.
@willdogsdroid
Жыл бұрын
Have a drink every time he says "Right?"
@donaldburkhard7932
Жыл бұрын
Power to weight or lift ratios of each motor?
@pdxraptor
Жыл бұрын
Adam, you should have left out the music track during test flight because WE wanted to hear how loud the vtol test sounded. Hard to tell, but this definitely sounds much louder than the JOBY ETOL
@FinnishArmy
Жыл бұрын
We don't need flying cars. People can barely even drive on the 2D plane.
@TheChrisJohnny
Жыл бұрын
This. I’ve been saying this for 20 years. Flying cars are a terrible idea.
@rogermiller2159
Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m talking about!
@himarei
Жыл бұрын
What if they are mainly automated?
@jonathangehman4005
Жыл бұрын
@@himarei Piloted or automated, imagine the sky over your nieghborhood full of these machines 20 hours a day for the rest of your life. The experience from inside the cockpit is going to be a riot, dut for everyone else it's just going to be a drag
@p_mouse8676
Жыл бұрын
Also, if you do some ballpark calculations, you will quickly find out how extremely inefficient it is. Mostly talking about weight to energy consumption ratio. Not talking about absolute headache scenarios when it comes down to safety and reliability. As well as the practicality. Which is very unfortunate I must say. I also really like the idea of it, but alas.
@j________k
Жыл бұрын
Great video very informative... but why is everything a question?
@DugTheDog
Жыл бұрын
Flying cars would be one of the stupidest things to happen. How idiotic people are driving on the ground? Now take that to the air and multiply it by 10. Yeah, no thanks.
@andersandersen6295
Жыл бұрын
The airspace is so much more regulated, they wont let the everyday fool fly around.
@RealJoshBinder
Жыл бұрын
This is the content I live for! Hyped for them to get "Type Certified" in 2024/2025! Idk why it takes that long but definitely don't want to rush something this quality critical
@erikhopka884
Жыл бұрын
We have flying cars, they're called helicopters.
@sunburystudios8234
Жыл бұрын
That's like expecting everyone to be able to drive around in and maintain a Bugatti
@iblisthemage
Жыл бұрын
He is such a pro presenter/interviewer.
@EvilCoffeeInc
Жыл бұрын
The plane is neat but this is not a feasible solution to traffic problems. The issue needs to be tackled at its source, which means mixed use zoning, slower roads, better public transit, bike, and pedestrian infrastructure, all of which will make it easier to move around cities by virtue of making us less car-dependent. All this "flying car" would do is move congestion in the streets to congestion in the air where it will be infinitely more cluttered and dangerous. Sorry Adam but tech isn't gonna solve what is fundamentally a policy and planning problem.
@antivanti9805
Жыл бұрын
Some fancy electric helicopters are not going to put even a little dent in traffic congestion. You know what would? Buses and... trains. Subway trains
@j.robertsergertson4513
Жыл бұрын
Fully autonomous Battery powered : SUPER PASS!
Жыл бұрын
Maker: what a great name for a flying machine. :-)
@MonkeyChessify
Жыл бұрын
lol there's no way we're going to flying vs cars/road based for individual transportation anytime in the near future. its just too much of a logistics nightmare and cluster.
@shanesweeney9086
Жыл бұрын
This was somehow very inspiring and moving. That plane kicks so much ass.
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Shane! We're excited for the future we're helping build. You can learn more about our commercialization strategy here if you're interested: kzitem.info/news/bejne/mm9un4yggXybiW0
@jimmcclane4171
Жыл бұрын
Nice, but we are a long way from Jetsons kind of travel for everyone. In fact it probably will never happen. Costs lots of money and if that hurdle can ever be overcome then the crime/terrorist element would go wild with those things.
@superskullmaster
Жыл бұрын
I was sold once they said there would be a pilot. I’m 39, not a boomer but I am an aviation nut. There will always be a need for pilots in the civilian market especially aircraft that carry more than 100 people. That’s the way us should always be.
@noenken
Жыл бұрын
Nope. Not gonna happen. And a stupid idea. Opening new lanes (which airspace is) has never worked to reduce traffic. The way to make traffic better in cities is to drastically reduce the amount of cars. Public transport is the key, bicycles for short distance and full separation between motorized and non motorized traffic for safety.
@RCnerd74
Жыл бұрын
Daily surprised about crazy glances into the future. Cannot even imagine what we will experience the next decades...
@ArcherAviation
Жыл бұрын
Buckle up, it's going to be a lot of fun 😎
@ConcreteBombDeep
7 ай бұрын
Does it fly with the propellers facing forward? I noticed how it just operated as a multidrone and not a plane.
@Lizlodude
Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely getting 'SV startup' vibes from a lot of the responses, but it's very refreshing to see them acknowledging the limits of current battery tech and building something that can be viable (if niche) with current technology. It seems like you see a lot of headlines of "electric plane of the future will replace jet fuel for airlines!!" that neglect the slight issue that batteries are nowhere near energy-dense enough for that currently. Definitely don't think just moving traffic to the air is going to solve traffic issues, just move them, for for short-hop transport like they are proposing it could be an interesting option. I could also see this tech being useful for services like lifeflight, where they are relatively short hops but need high maneuverability.
@robertmartin6800
Жыл бұрын
These seem like very cool vehicles, but I am extremely skeptical that there's gonna be any market for the sort of service they're trying to sell.
@matthewspry4217
9 ай бұрын
THE TEST AIRCRAFT IS FULLY AUTONOMOUS can we just take a minute here
@JoshuaC923
Жыл бұрын
Probably still a decade away from being cheap enough for civil use, but always good to see people doing the ground work needed for such systems to become successful in the future. Very cool
@Doctors_TARDIS
Жыл бұрын
This is the most impractical vehicle ever.
@xliquidflames
Жыл бұрын
I think of these as more like a drone you can ride in. A flying car would be something that can drive down the road, transition to flight, and then transition back to driving down the road. These would never fit on a road. And the way it flies is just like a drone. It's a person sized drone. It's very cool. I just worry about the regulations and approvals. I don't know if it will ever be certified for passengers.
@michaetsully87
Жыл бұрын
I can totally see a soccer mom drinking coffee, vaping and talking on the phone all while flying her kids to practice! 😄😄😄
@wootburger1195
Жыл бұрын
I can't shake the thought that the word "right" was overused in the first interview. But still liked this video and the product that was showcased, cool stuff! Edit: I have now learned that sometimes "right" is used as a filler like "uhh" and "umm" and I don't care to admit how often I use fillers.
@jamus618
Жыл бұрын
stood out to me too, but 'right' is more grating than umm.. in the sense that it's inviting the other to affirm what you're saying.
@MrHarbot
Жыл бұрын
This is a prime example of a product that doesn't help any and causes more nuisance than is the solution. How many would want the LA traffic to transfer to the sky even if this would fly? Imagine the notice of pollution just by itself.
@skyrider4789
Жыл бұрын
Cool, but he kept asking Adam so many questions? :P
@mironkusnecov5728
Жыл бұрын
Now watch Joe Rogan’s podcast about the disturbing information about cobalt mining. They use cobalt and every lithium ion battery that is produced. It’s very disturbing.
@jbraunschweiger
Жыл бұрын
“The wop wop of a helicopter” was such a great description
@Bladeforce1503
Жыл бұрын
I love how it just looks like a shark in the side profile 🦈
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